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Bing Gets Porn Domain To Filter Explicit Content

sopssa writes "Bing has set up a separate domain just for porn images and videos. '[The] general manager of Microsoft Bing said in a blog post that potentially explicit images and video content now will be coming from one separate domain — explicit.bing.net. 'This is invisible to the end customer, but allows for filtering of that content by domain which makes it much easier for customers at all levels to block this content regardless of what the SafeSearch settings might be.' When Bing was first launched, there was some online chatter about explicit images popping up when videos were 'previewed' in the search results. This means the thumbnails and videos are served from that domain, allowing easy filter of them in corporate and school networks. Users still normally use www.bing.com. Instead of heavily filtering the results, this is quite a good move."

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  1. Awesome! by SupremoMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm tired of non-explicit images ruining my Google searches!

    1. Re:Awesome! by Jurily · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      This is invisible to the end customer, but allows for filtering of that content by domain which makes it much easier for customers at all levels to block this content regardless of what the SafeSearch settings might be.

      So I'm guessing one level of costumers is ISPs and governments.

    2. Re:Awesome! by machine321 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Most pornography contains people not wearing their costumes.

    3. Re:Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Most pornography contains people not wearing their costumes.

      Tell that to the furries

    4. Re:Awesome! by Fulminata · · Score: 1

      Why is the parent modded "Offtopic"?

      Aside from the typo, that's exactly what I thought when reading the summary.

      There are some other good points later in this discussion about the way bing works making this necessary for parental controls to work, but it would also make filtering out such results easier at the level of ISPs and governments as well.

  2. Hrmmm by Narkov · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is the reverse possible? I.e. explicit content only??!! :)

    1. Re:Hrmmm by sam0737 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Use greasemonkey/AdBlock to remove all images from bing.com but whitelist explicit.bing.com? At least that would save you some bandwidth in downloading non-explicit content.

    2. Re:Hrmmm by asCii88 · · Score: 1

      Is the reverse possible? I.e. explicit content only??!! :)

      I'm guessing from the summary it's explicit.bing.com

    3. Re:Hrmmm by _merlin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just tried it - explicit.bing.com gives you SFW and NSFW - using that domain is just like saying "switch off safe search". AFAICT, there's no "unsafe search" option.

    4. Re:Hrmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, there is already PornTube, PornoTube, YouPorn, RedTube, XTube, etc etc...

      (shamefully posting as AC)

    5. Re:Hrmmm by asCii88 · · Score: 1

      Just tried it - explicit.bing.com gives you SFW and NSFW - using that domain is just like saying "switch off safe search". AFAICT, there's no "unsafe search" option.

      Then somebody has to come up with an algorithm that does the same search on both domains and displays the complement of the intersection of the results.

    6. Re:Hrmmm by _merlin · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's one of those for Google here.

    7. Re:Hrmmm by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      I've heard about MagicTeapot.com

    8. Re:Hrmmm by CarpetShark · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Use AdBlock to completely disable *.bing.com

      There, fixed that for you.

    9. Re:Hrmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It would be funny if the following worked, but alas, it produces no results:

      http://images.google.com/images?q=site:explicit.bing.net

    10. Re:Hrmmm by hcdejong · · Score: 1

      Speaking of which: the results pages on the Google Image part of that site use a script to show full-size images when you click on a thumbnail. Unfortunately, the script also triggers when you Ctrl-click (in Firefox, to load the link into a new tab) and even when you right-click.
      Is there a way to defeat this script?

    11. Re:Hrmmm by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Have to look deeper into it, but it looks like the gallery page is generated by the javascript itself, so an outright block won't do it.

      It seems to be running lightbox

    12. Re:Hrmmm by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I was wrong. The lightbox script overlays the annoying-click gallery over the existing one, so adblocking lightbox.js makes it work as one might expect.

    13. Re:Hrmmm by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      So much for the hopes that MS might actually implement a relevant and useful feature their clients want!

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  3. To be or not to be... by pegdhcp · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... an explicit content provider. I guess soon Linux related content would be served by nasty.bing.net, just in case...

    1. Re:To be or not to be... by GreenTech11 · · Score: 1
      Didn't you hear? Slashdot is not coming to you from explicit.bing.net! We welcome our new filtering overlords.

      Please sit down and discuss how great Windows Vista is, bonus points for mention the Mojave Experiment. Oh, and if you are running any variant of linux, our new super computer will overwrite it with a brand new copy of Vista for you almost free of charge. Microsoft, controlling your life since you were born.

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    2. Re:To be or not to be... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "Microsoft, controlling your life since you were born."

      Get off my lawn!

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  4. How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by JustinKSU · · Score: 5, Funny

    How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'?

    That would be an interesting job. Microsoft Smut Engineer. Wait, I think that's what they already call MS Office developers...

    1. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well for example a slashdot post explaining in explicit detail why a MS product is crap will be automatically filtered as explicit content.

    2. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by l2718 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The easiest way is using the "keywords" META tag which I'm sure is used by most explicit sites to self-identify. The problem of determining the semantic content of a site (not to speak of interpreting images) is hard, but "Safe searches" of various kinds have been around for a long time so I'm sure there's been some progress on the text processing side. I doubt computer vision has reached the stage when it's easy to identify a nude.

    3. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by mcfatboy93 · · Score: 1

      Anything without the words 'Microsoft', 'Windows', 'Vista', 'Office', 'insert any Microsoft product here'

      way to go for marketing

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    4. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by asCii88 · · Score: 1

      Your answer explains "what" not "how"

      Prolly much like Google SafeSearch does. Exept that with a bulkier, buggier and messier code.

    5. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Microsoft Smut Engineer. Wait, I think that's what they already call MS Office developers...

      We need a certification program so people can call themselves Microsoft CERTIFIED Smut Engineer, or MCSE for short.

    6. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by Thinboy00 · · Score: 3, Funny

      The easiest way is using the "keywords" META tag which I'm sure is used by most explicit sites to self-identify.

      Except that goatse won't do that.

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    7. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by fotoguzzi · · Score: 1

      Try "pile driver."

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    8. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by SolitaryMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, laugh all you want, but where I work (our company does search.... kinda...) we have this position :) At least some sort of it.

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    9. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by Barny · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, they have worked out a cross-certification deal with /b/ residents, please expect official papers to arrive via certified post any day now.

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    10. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by Aqualung812 · · Score: 1

      I doubt computer vision has reached the stage when it's easy to identify a nude.

      I remember seeing a demo at COMDEX that was designed to do exactly that, in 2000. It did false on swimsuits, but not much else.

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    11. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by Tribbin · · Score: 1

      "I doubt computer vision has reached the stage when it's easy to identify a nude."

      Or even more so; even a human can't sometimes tell the difference between a guy and a gal, until it's too late and your excitement is ruined.

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    12. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by RegularFry · · Score: 1

      Nudes? Please, have some ambition!

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    13. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by dodongo · · Score: 1

      That would be an interesting job. Microsoft Smut Engineer.

      Heh. I've actually done this; not for Microsoft, but another search company (for a _real_ search company, one might say to get in a cheap shot ;)

      It's actually not nearly as much fun as it sounds. At some point, your soul just feels dirty -- it's not just porn; depending on the strength of the filter, you could also be looking for drugs, innuendo (OK, I really like the innuendo...), hate sites, etc. Hate sites are the worst.

      While blocking the domain really does sound like a nice feature for anyone running a network they want to lock down, this of course doesn't block the explicit content from any other search engine. And it's relying on dolts like me (only they work for Microsoft) to make it happen. I hope they have a lot of dolts. There's a damn lot of explicit stuff out there!

    14. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by gzipped_tar · · Score: 1

      Easy. y = f(x) --> explicit. f(x, y) = 0 --> implicit.

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    15. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'?

      I'm guessing their definition is something like "Well, no one's buying the whole bing thing, so put up whatever porn will get people there."

    16. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      For a geek website, we don't get nearly enough calculus jokes.

    17. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by soliptic · · Score: 1

      I doubt computer vision has reached the stage when it's easy to identify a nude.

      I'm not an expert and can't even be bothered to google for confirmation of my vague memories, but I'm pretty sure it can easily identify a nude. What it can't do is distinguish between, say, this and, well... you probably have your own bookmarks.

      As the saying goes, obscenity is whatever gives a judge an erection.

    18. Re:How does Microsoft define what is 'explicit'? by Plug · · Score: 1

      Will Meat Loaf?

  5. One hell of a statement by jw3 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Microsoft is never done when it comes to providing tools to help customers, whether they are large enterprises, local school districts or parents" - Mike Nichols, general manager of Microsoft Bing.

    Never done.
    Yep, sounds informative.

    j.

    1. Re:One hell of a statement by kj_kabaje · · Score: 1

      Never done or always in beta,... that is the question. Probably the answer, too, since continual improvement (or so it's said) is a good thing.

    2. Re:One hell of a statement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      sig in sig field, dippy. Who wants to read "j" after every one of your posts? No one.

  6. Fear of MS Bob Hope *grips* Google by David+Gerard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft today heeded the lessons of technological history, taking the popular "preview porn videos in the search engine" feature and turning its Bob Hope search engine into a porn finder at the address explicit.bobhope.microsoft.com.

    "It worked for VHS over Beta, porn sites were leading innovators in online payments. It's a natural synergy," said Steve Ballmer, looking somewhat sweaty and flushed.

    Porn sites are some of the keenest users of Microsoft technologies, using the undocumented interfaces in Internet Explorer to install helpful toolbars and bulk email tools on users' systems. "It's all about tools. Developers, developers, developers, developers!"

    Windows 7 final will include a "boot straight into porn" mode. "We found that was what users really wanted in an operating system." It will include the Storm, Conficker and FBI botnets as standard. "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em."

    Mr Ballmer promised that Microsoft will, as always, deliver. "Unlike porn sites, we don't just tease — we really will fuck you. Totally."

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    1. Re:Fear of MS Bob Hope *grips* Google by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 1

      Windows 7 final will include a "boot straight into porn" mode.

      Finally! A new Windows feature that is actually useful.

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  7. good idea by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hate it when I type pretty much anything in for an image search in google and I end up with porn. Okay when I'm at home but when I'm at work ... not so cool.

    1. Re:good idea by SpinyNorman · · Score: 4, Informative

      This Bing change won't help with that.

      I don't expect that the image or video results you get with Bing vs Google at any preferred level of "safe search" filtering are much different, and that's not going to change with this announcement.

      All the Bing change does, rather belatedly, is stop overriding parental controls (Open DNS, Net Nanny, etc) that would block porn domains. What happens up until now is that Bing self-hosts all it's image/video thumbnails from it's own servers - porn included - and starts to play these thumbnail videos automatically - direct from Microsoft's servers - when you mouseover them. Since the videos are coming from a Microsoft domain rather than a porn domain, parental porn filters are bypassed.

      All the Bing change does is to move Microsoft's porn video reviews from bing.com to microsofts-hard-core-porn-server.bing.com so that Open DNS, Net Nanny, etc can once again be used to block this stuff.

    2. Re:good idea by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      Rule 34

      That site now exists, and the content isn't half bad.

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    3. Re:good idea by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I didn't know they hosted the content. When you maximize a video it seems to be a plugin from youtube or whatever. Is this only for the thumbnail view then?

    4. Re:good idea by SpinyNorman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yep - this is just the thumbnails on the Bing search results page.

    5. Re:good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Chances are that both your boss and your coworkers know that the internet is full of porn and you cannot always avoid it. Unless of course they are one of those "think of the children" hypocrites ...

    6. Re:good idea by pbhj · · Score: 4, Insightful

      [...] Bing self-hosts all it's image/video thumbnails from it's own servers - porn included - and starts to play these thumbnail videos automatically - direct from Microsoft's servers - when you mouseover them. Since the videos are coming from a Microsoft domain rather than a porn domain, parental porn filters are bypassed.

      All the Bing change does is to move Microsoft's porn video reviews from bing.com to microsofts-hard-core-porn-server.bing.com so that Open DNS, Net Nanny, etc can once again be used to block this stuff.

      When are they going to be sued for copyright infringement then?

      It can't be long now surely. Everyone go and search bing for RIAA managed songs on video. Perhaps we can get these snakes to simultaneously eat each other??!

    7. Re:good idea by digitalchinky · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if this is a BOFH thing or just a plain old bastardly thing in general, but it is always worth a bit of a chuckle modifying the HR prudes search engine to display unfiltered content.

    8. Re:good idea by george929a · · Score: 1

      I hate it when I type pretty much anything in for an image search in google and I end up with porn. Okay when I'm at home but when I'm at work ... not so cool.

      ....then stop searching for "Big hard disks"....

    9. Re:good idea by dna_(c)(tm)(r) · · Score: 1

      I hate it when I type pretty much anything in for an image search in google and I end up with porn. Okay when I'm at home but when I'm at work ... not so cool.

      My advice: spell check before you submit 'pretty much anal thing'. I've never had porn results whe searching for images on google yet...

    10. Re:good idea by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      Microsoft isn't a poor old lady with no chance to defend herself, so no.. they would not go after Microsoft.

      I am still suprised that Microsoft hasnt gotten into the p2p file sharing arena. Its the sort of thing they could dominate rather easily via simple bundling, and I dont even think the RIAA would consider going after them. Just make it gnutella-like with no central tracker and winning against it will be quite difficult because of the deep pocket effect.

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    11. Re:good idea by nem75 · · Score: 1

      Probably stating the obvious, but Google's search has filter options for explicit content, too.

    12. Re:good idea by kid_oliva · · Score: 1

      What exactly are you typing in that porn is popping up? Me thinks that you forget you are at work.

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    13. Re:good idea by DaRanged · · Score: 1

      I like how both Google and Bing are determined to make a fool out of you by showing you the error (and results!) of your ways...

      <Bing>
      Results are included for dicks. Show just the results for disks.
      </Bing>

      <Google>
      Did you mean: dicks ..
      Did you mean to search for: dicks
      </Google>

      Google also likes to rub it in.... ;-)

    14. Re:good idea by secondhand_Buddah · · Score: 3, Informative

      Um, turn safe search on.

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    15. Re:good idea by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

      I don't know what you're searching for, but when I search for images on google, unless I have SafeSearch off, I don't get the results you're describing. Even when the filter is off, I'm still very rarely bombarded with pornographic content.

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    16. Re:good idea by pbhj · · Score: 1

      lol

    17. Re:good idea by polle404 · · Score: 1

      I hate when i get pr0n off any search at home... at work, sure, but when I'm home
      ...i have better things to do.

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    18. Re:good idea by againjj · · Score: 1

      Turn on safe search: http://images.google.com/preferences You do not even have to be logged in.

    19. Re:good idea by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      There have been similar law suits against Google's image search - at least I recall some porn magazines that saw their thumbnailed images appear on Google and were not happy with it. Sorry I'm too lazy to look them up, but the very existence of Google Image Search means that there is no big problem here. Storing/showing thumbnail images while linking to the original is probably considered fair use.

    20. Re:good idea by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Really? Type in pretty much any celebrity and you'll end up with pages of look a likes photoshop or leaked sextapes. I get that crap occasionally at work because people will be telling me about a show I've never heard of and say you know that girl from ... is in it. Mhh, I get that even more because it is a new continent for me (so everything seems to be different oddly enough).

    21. Re:good idea by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Not the same thing. One is a user level setting, the other exposes the type of content in an easy to block with the corporate firewall manner. I might not have control over the setting you use for google, but if I know that bad crap is coming from explicit.bing.com then I just need to add that site to my filter list.

    22. Re:good idea by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1
      My understanding though if you aren't logged in the settings go away with time (cookie expires?). I have this problem occasionally too, once a month or so I start getting redirected to google.de (I'm in Germany) until I switch it back to google.com and then it goes away. The safe search settings don't stick either.

      Along with that my computer is a dual-use system, it is the laptop I use at work and home. I don't want filtered content at home but I do at work. It is a pain to remember to switch the settings back and forth.

    23. Re:good idea by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Things people tell me to. Boss says oh this show is funny, this guy is in it or whatever. I ask him who that is and he tells me to google it. Blam goatsy'd.

    24. Re:good idea by kid_oliva · · Score: 1

      Me thinks your boss thinks he's very funny

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  8. just use booble by lecithin · · Score: 4, Informative

    go to booble.com

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    1. Re:just use booble by _merlin · · Score: 4, Informative

      On your advice, I just tried booble. I have to say, it's complete rubbish. For each search I tried, all the hits on the first page were advertising, and none of them were even advertising anything remotely related to what I searched for. If you're using a search engine, you want relevant results - not just random advertising.

    2. Re:just use booble by nkcaump · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe badda-bing.com???

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    3. Re:just use booble by trollocks · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's funny, it worked perfectly when I searched for "your mom"!

    4. Re:just use booble by Own3d-You · · Score: 1

      No, it's badda-boom.com

  9. A nuclear blaster can point both ways by janwedekind · · Score: 1

    I guess they found a much more lucrative application for parental controls.

  10. I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by Starayo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't that technically a subdomain?

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    1. Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, in this context, in my experience more a domsubain... I mean, or so I heard.

      (ok, it's lame, but this asked for a BDSM joke and I coudn't come up with a better one)

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    2. Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by n1hilist · · Score: 4, Funny

      With jokes like that, you must really be strapped for cash ;)

    3. Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by Barny · · Score: 4, Funny

      You think an MCSE could tell the difference?

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    4. Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      I think you're just beating a dead horse.

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    5. Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by Schadrach · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, god, horrible mental images. My brain just kind of fused the parent, GP, and GGP into one *thing* and got a dominatrix with a strap on making her sub beat off a dead horse. I need to go bleach my brain now.

    6. Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by Remus+Shepherd · · Score: 3, Funny

      The question is, are any images like the ones in your brain available on Bing right now?

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    7. Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 1

      Oh, god, horrible mental images. My brain just kind of fused the parent, GP, and GGP into one *thing* and got a dominatrix with a strap on making her sub beat off a dead horse. I need to go bleach my brain now.

      Don't knock it. If they ever invent a way to hook an inkjet printer right to your brain, you can make a lot of cash with those images!

    8. Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Do you know how many artists would lose their income from such an invention?

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    9. Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by The+Iso · · Score: 1

      The ability to translate ideas on to paper is important, but the ability to compose an image in the first place is even more important. It's the difference between learning to play an instrument and learning to write a song.

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    10. Re:I'm anal (and not in the fun way) so... by rizole · · Score: 1

      BDSM? Isn't that some kinda operating system...?

  11. PR Stroke of Genius! by Necroloth · · Score: 5, Funny

    What a way to get into the hearts and hands of millions of users worldwide! I think they'll be finding the usage of Bing shoot up dramatically but I'd like to see the comparison between normal Bing and xXx Bing!

    1. Re:PR Stroke of Genius! by W33B · · Score: 4, Funny

      Absolutely!

      When I first read about this yesterday my gut reaction was to immediatly go to bing and search for porn (after turning off the filtering of course)...

      ...and seeing as the speed of this thread is relatively slow for slashdot, i'm betting geeks around the world are doing the exact same thing.

      Marketing Genius....long live the porn providers!!!

    2. Re:PR Stroke of Genius! by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      normal Bing and xXx Bing

      Must be a Vin Diesel thing.

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    3. Re:PR Stroke of Genius! by westlake · · Score: 1

      What a way to get into the hearts and hands of millions of users worldwide!

      An adolescent obsession with porn seems to be one of the defining qualities of the geek.

      Playing against the stereotype can be very profitable. Case in point: The Wii and the hard-core gamer.

  12. Google already came up with a better way by tumbleweedsi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google just make sure they let the filtering people know how to categorise the pages based on if Safesearch is on or off. On my filter I can choose to block google images entirely or just when safesearch is off and that works just fine without needing another domain name.

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    1. Re:Google already came up with a better way by Aladrin · · Score: 4, Informative

      That works great for individual users. This is -not- meant for individuals. This is meant for companies, schools, etc. You can block that domain at your firewall/proxy/dns/whatever and make -sure- none of your users see it, no matter what settings they choose.

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    2. Re:Google already came up with a better way by tumbleweedsi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry, I wasn't being clear. My network proxy which I run on the network of an enterprise storage company allows me to block pages when safesearch is off. That means that the users can do whatever they like in google images but as soon as they turn off the safe search the results pages are blocked until they turn it back on. I know there are a lot of the "mom's basement" sorts around on slashdot but please don't assume I am one of them.

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    3. Re:Google already came up with a better way by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it just be easier to block access to a single hostname than all of that malarkey? It would fit in with every single web-filtering piece of software out of there.

    4. Re:Google already came up with a better way by jaseuk · · Score: 1

      Yes it would.. I quite agree with Microsoft's idea, it's a good one. Much better than analysing URLs / cookies etc. to detect the Safesearch status.

  13. Re: Details on MS products by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Come on gang, forget the snark below his post, this guy has a piece of the puzzle right! MS can lever the threat to "accidentally" label polka spotted portions of the web as "explicit" while daring the global web community to figure it out!

    While he's funny with the MS-product side, they can accept payments to label ANYTHING as explicit! Wheee!!

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  14. Re:BadAnalogyGuy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    BadAnalogyGuy has gone to ground after being outed as a Scientologist. But if he should contact you, offering a free personality test, firmly refuse him.

    Thanks, but you don't have to worry. I have no personality.

  15. Re: Details on MS products by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or for example, they really want to do business in China so they label anything "free Tibet" explicit, etc etc.ÂIt is a good idea in the sense that it can give better control of what goes over your network. But it is very open to abuse.

  16. Surreal by berpi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who's got the explicitometer to decide which domain to place content in? Censorship is getting increasingly surreal.

    1. Re:Surreal by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Censorship is getting increasingly surreal.

      Maybe it is, or maybe it isn't. But this thread had nothing to do with censorship. We're talking about a private web site run by a business. They are under absolutely no obligation to show, index, or communicate anything in a particular way. Serving the thumbnails off of a separate domain doesn't censor anything. It changes nothing unless you take some extra step yourself to block traffic coming from that domain. Regardless, it's not the government, there's no force involved... it's not censorship. People who use that word in this context are just displaying their ongoing ignorance of what censorship actually is, and their ignorance of the difference between a business tailoring what it delivers on its own web site and, say, China or Iran - where actual censorship (with consquences) is routine.

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    2. Re:Surreal by SpinyNorman · · Score: 1

      I expect the "explicitometer" is just the same exact same none/moderate/strict classification that both Google and Bing's "Safe Search" preferences offer.

      This change by Bing isn't some big brother restriction on your porn viewing... it's just coming closer** to honoring your wishes by not allowing you to view porn sites that you, yourself, have already chosen to block via Open DNS, Net Nanny or whatever!

      ** Of course, you can still see Microsoft hosted thumbnails (incl. videos) from sites that you've chosen to block but Microsoft hasn't classified as explicit, and Google does no better with their image thumbnails.

  17. Re:Vista & Mohave! by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    I'll bite!

    Ya see, my anthro class sponsored a field trip to the Mohave desert. You should have SEEN the Vista! I'm tellin' ya, you ain't seen nuthin' until you checked out a desert sunset headed into a full moon.

    Then it was time to set up our water filtering equipment. Can kernels of corn grow in desert conditions...

    Oh wait... you wanted an *exact phrase* search for Windows Vista? Oops, sorry.

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  18. No Wonder MS Failed Once Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    After the week of the usual standard Microsoft product marketing tactics:

    * Astroturfing by marketing companies hiring people to sit around all day posting "I'm a Google fan but gosh darn it! I've switched to Bing!" posts all over the Net

    * TV and other media spots

    * Getting all their MS friendly people in the computing media to hype the crap out of the rebranded old Microsft search product

    Microsoft's search engine plummeted right back down into irrelvancy in marketshare and all people are left talking about is "LOL! Bing is great for porn type posts and stories"

    1. Re:No Wonder MS Failed Once Again by Elektroschock · · Score: 1

      Of course, with Porn as a sales argument. Can't find my porn with Google, need to get Bing, the porn queen.

      What surprises me is that "Porn" is an explicit sales argument for Microsoft. A pawn is a pawn, said Bobby Fisher. What is next? Buy your SS underwear at our nazi.shopping.bing.com? A special Bing for china without Tiananmen massacre plus a special BIng for the Chinese abroad WITH Tiananmen? Bing for you, bing for me?

      MyBing, where you can censor your own web. YourBing, where you can watch what others bing.

      Coming next: Windows Vista 7 launched at gay pride parade "My PCs bings the Mac"

  19. Re:Vista & Mohave! by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

    I'll bite!

    Ya see, my anthro class sponsored a field trip to the Mohave desert. You should have SEEN the Vista! I'm tellin' ya, you ain't seen nuthin' until you checked out a desert sunset headed into a full moon.

    Then it was time to set up our water filtering equipment. Can kernels of corn grow in desert conditions...

    [snip]

    Were you looking out of a window? Or multiple Windoze?

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  20. As a net admin for a school.... by jimbo-nally · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have to say that this is really nice. I just added explicit.bing.net to the list of filtered content in our SonicWall and then did an images search for breasts on bing.com with safe-search off and the images that displayed were not what I would consider porn. Many of the images, if not most, were not displayed. I will feel much better about allowing access to bing.com for our students now. Can't believe I'm saying this...but "Good job, Microsoft!"

    1. Re:As a net admin for a school.... by tjstork · · Score: 1

      I will feel much better about allowing access to bing.com for our students now.

      It's interesting that your post is modded "funny". Evidentally many on slashdot that have read your post do not understand the terrible parent that school administrators have to deal with. If porn did get through, I could see your mug on a bunch of news sites... "school lets kids look at porn..." You have to clamp down, in your case, or parents would just eat you alive!

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    2. Re:As a net admin for a school.... by Barny · · Score: 1

      Fact is, its not up to him, its just his job to enforce the restrictions passed down to him by his employer.

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    3. Re:As a net admin for a school.... by jimbo-nally · · Score: 1

      It has nothing to do with my beliefs. Here's why I do it: 1) I like having a job. 2) Part of my job is making sure we comply with CIPA http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/cipa.html 3) CIPA says we have to filter "obscene pictures" You, Janet Jackson and I may think breasts are not obscene, but I know there are people who do.

    4. Re:As a net admin for a school.... by sopssa · · Score: 1

      Enjoy porn and their bodies in a classroom?

    5. Re:As a net admin for a school.... by ekhben · · Score: 1

      The real test for "is it porn" is to ejaculate, and then see if you still like it. If you're disinterested, it's porn. If you still like it, it's artistic or informative!

      ... maybe not the best test to use while on school grounds.

  21. how to block adult web sites by viralMeme · · Score: 2, Interesting

    how to block adult web sites, the non Microsoft way. Of course this doesn't deserve a whole article on slashdot .. :)

  22. Hands Up (above the table) by Necroloth · · Score: 1

    So quick vote for how many clicked on the link in the summary thinking it was a link to xXx Bing? And I assume those that don't reply merely have sticky fingers... /hands up

    1. Re:Hands Up (above the table) by tedgyz · · Score: 1

      Hand up. They have a goldmine of content that could feed a great pr0n site.

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  23. They gave it the wrong name!! by ItaliaMatt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Instead of explicit.bing.com it should have been bada.bing.com

    1. Re:They gave it the wrong name!! by achbed · · Score: 1

      Oh, if I was quicker (or had mod points)....

    2. Re:They gave it the wrong name!! by StormReaver · · Score: 1

      > Instead of explicit.bing.com it should have been bada.bing.com

      Or shark.chandler.bing.com

  24. There goes .... by Sem_D_D · · Score: 1

    an obligatory statement about the murky distinction between the "bing" for your "bang" coming in 3, 2, 1 ....

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    1. Re:There goes .... by Vozmozno · · Score: 1

      no, it doesn't.

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  25. Re:A SEPARATE domain for obscene content... by David+Gerard · · Score: 1

    You are obviously a sockpuppet of David Gerard.

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  26. Re: Details on MS products by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Exactly. There is no difference between "heavy filtering of results" and results that are explicit coming from a separate domain. All that means is that it makes it easier on your end to filter the explicit.bing.com. Who decides what is explicit? Microsoft. What if you don't agree with them? What if you are the owner of that content? Is there a resolution process? Do you have to sue them? Can you sue them?

  27. Schwing? by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 1

    Got nothin'

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  28. Re: Details on MS products by houghi · · Score: 1

    The same goes for Google where the default is to use moderate filtering.

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  29. What's that called? SNEP? by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

    Sadonecroequinophilia?

    1. Re:What's that called? SNEP? by n1hilist · · Score: 1

      That's quite a mouthful.

    2. Re:What's that called? SNEP? by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 1

      That's quite a mouthful.

      ... aaaaannnnd we're right back to the strap-on.

  30. Re: Details on MS products by jonbryce · · Score: 1

    They could put that on taiwan.bing.cn, or www.bing.tw

  31. Linux filter and interesting suggestions by avn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    try typing linux into bing... after 'linu' it will give the following suggestions:
    linux
    linux windows
    linux microsoft
    linux vista
    linux commands
    ...

    while google suggests:
    linuxtoday
    linux
    linux commands
    linux mint
    linux download
    ...

    Already seems a little jaded.

  32. Microsoft blows it again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    explicit.bing.net?

    They should have gone with bada.bing.net.

    1. Re:Microsoft blows it again by AustinSlacker · · Score: 1

      How about bung.bing.net?

    2. Re:Microsoft blows it again by maverick41 · · Score: 1

      explicit.bing.net?

      They should have gone with bada.bing.net.

      Nah -- schwing.net

  33. How is that better? by Junta · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You can either filter on a sophisticated ruleset te detect what you describe, or you can block one host in one domain (the same domain of 'bing.com', just a different host record within it....)

    It's good that google accommodated the need, but just because Google did it one way and MS did it another that Google's way must be better (by better, this would mean easier).

    It would help to have the flaws in MS's approach actually described and how Google's overcomes it.

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    1. Re:How is that better? by spitzak · · Score: 1

      Have not tried this but I am guessing that if the porn images are blocked but not the results page itself, users at the company can still figure out how to click to get the porn itself by clicking on the broken image in the page. Blocking the entire resulting page if safe search is off will prevent this.

      Still it does seem like Microsoft's solution is by far the easier one to handle, and there is no reason why both solutions can't be provided. You could also use domain filtering for the entire page so there would be a simple way to get the Google results by blocking a site, just have "safe search" change the target of the search button rather than setting a cookie or whatever it is doing.

  34. Re:Several uses by HaZardman27 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually I don't see how this would make it any easier for said institutions and governments at all. Regardless of what Microsoft deems as explicit, bing is just one of many venues from which to obtain information and media on the internet. Also, big brother-ing people to protect them from thought-crime would only serve to further alienate users from the internet, and thus, their computers; how would this serve Microsoft's interests at all?

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  35. same here :) by viralMeme · · Score: 1

    "linux windows, linux microsoft, linux vista"

    Yet more Microsoft search innovation. It is patently obvious that 'search' is a weapon in directing people to websites that Microsoft want you to go to ..

  36. Doesn't really solve the problem... by chord.wav · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...if you search for "best loan insurance" and you get tons of broken images. Clever.

  37. "explicit": what dumb word by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

    "Explicit" is an even stupider way to describe porn than "graphic" is, because it always applies to way more than what you really mean. If you mean porn, then say "porn."

    It always amused me when music albums used to come with an "parental advisory: explicit lyrics" warning; they might as well have just said, "look out, this album isn't all just instrumental" or "warning: not much abstract symbolism, the writer actually knows how to write."

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    1. Re:"explicit": what dumb word by guyminuslife · · Score: 1

      I don't understand. Could you be more explicit?

      (Bow-chikka-wow-wow.)

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  38. Re: Details on MS products by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 1

    Next domains to be built:

    democracy.bing.com

    dissent.bing.com

    ... and so on ...

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  39. Kudos to MS by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

    Anything that allows the users more choices is a good thing. Those who want to block porn may,those who don't want to block porn don't have to. And more tools for parents is a good thing also. Kudos to MS for this option!!

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  40. Executive Summary by BurzumNazgul · · Score: 1

    A few people seem to misunderstand why Microsoft did this. It's not to make it easier to search for porn. It's to make it easier to filter it out. All NSFW images/videos returned in search results will be hosted at explicit.bing.com. Network police at schools and businesses can filter the domain explicit.bing.com so that users cannot bypass their filters and access porn using bing.com. It is NOT a special site for you to find porn. Sorry :(

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  41. It's a lie; it doesn't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I put Bing to the test. First search term, "grossao". It found the Grossao stories (erotica), plus a whole lot more that's pornographic at best, illegal at worst. It found zoophilia, for goodness sake!

    Bing certainly has to be my search engine of choice for when I'm feeling horny! lol.

  42. Re:Several uses by westlake · · Score: 1
    First, an observation:

    It would surely have amused - but not surprised - Orwell to hear cries of "Thoughtcrime!" raised when a real crime is being prosecuted.

    I'd wager that is actually Microsofts main intended user, not individuals/concerned parents. Microsoft: the only halfway innovative technologies they ever come up with are tools of repression.

    This is just too much.

    But you got it half right.

    If you want to control the user, you don't begin with the client, you begin with the server.

    The network. The backbone.

    That is why the administrator is universally despised.

    But on which side of the equation will you usually find the geek - and *NIX?

  43. Re: Details on MS products by Elektroschock · · Score: 1

    They already have openstandards.microsoft.com
    which is different from all other open standards sites.

    democracy.bing.kp for the Democratic People of North Korea.

     

  44. Great choice. by DaVince21 · · Score: 1

    You know what, this actually IS a good choice! And when properly used, content filtering software might actually make use of this domain to effectively filter any kind of explicit content.

    Now I just wonder... Which one will be used more? Bing, or the explicit section?

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