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First Electronic Quantum Processor Created
ScienceDaily is reporting that the first rudimentary solid-state quantum processor has been created by a team led by Yale University researchers. "Working with a group of theoretical physicists led by Steven Girvin, the Eugene Higgins Professor of Physics & Applied Physics, the team manufactured two artificial atoms, or qubits ('quantum bits'). While each qubit is actually made up of a billion aluminum atoms, it acts like a single atom that can occupy two different energy states. These states are akin to the '1' and '0' or 'on' and 'off' states of regular bits employed by conventional computers. Because of the counterintuitive laws of quantum mechanics, however, scientists can effectively place qubits in a 'superposition' of multiple states at the same time, allowing for greater information storage and processing power."
The possible applications for this technology are an exciting prospect. Handheld supercomputers, true real-time physics simulations for research and gaming, maybe even time travelling phone booths...
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Honey, I got you these two solid-state qubits that hold their quantum states for a microsecond and can be used to perform rudimentary algorithms.
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You can find the lab site here with several papers freely available in pre-publication form on arxiv from the researchers. I'm trying to find the "basic algorithms" the article alludes to that these rudimentary processors can perform. I thought only a handful were applicable (Shor's algorithm) to quantum computing. Anyone know?
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While each qubit is actually made up of a billion aluminum atoms, it acts like a single atom that can occupy two different energy states.
Does this sound like they're using real atoms to simulate qubits? Perhaps I'm misinterpretting, but it looks like it's still going to take an exponential amount of resources to "make" each additional qubit.
Soon a PC with a Quantum Processor, Holographic Memory and optical storage.
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I am not trying to split hairs. This is actually a rather important point: they did not manufacture "two artificial atoms, or qubits". They manufactured two clusters of atoms that acted as qubits.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/pdf/nature08121.pdf
(For those with access to Nature through school or work...)
So in theory, one of the greatest scientific inquiries can now be solved by a quantum computer.
Which came first? The chicken or the egg.
The answer, of course, is 'Yes'.
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With probability 1/2
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Seriously, I wonder if this comes to pass and we continue on the binary process forever. (IIRC, some mainframes back in the '40s and '50s used decimal processing, which was too slow then, so all switched eventually to binary.)
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Wow. I'm very excited for the future of computing right now. I hope when I'm 65 and this technology is finally implemented I'll still know how to use computers. If my parents are any indication...unlikely...
The answer, of course, is 'Yes'.
And "No".
The first chicken was named Schrodinger.
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But still I've been hearing about this for so long, any news is good news.
Apparently the mods don't approve of my enthusiasm though.
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That has been long since solved with evolutionary genetics.
The egg.
What produced it just happened not to be a chicken. Something close, but not quite.
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It's obvious the egg came first. Dinosaurs laid eggs. Dinosaurs lived before birds, including chickens, evolved. So eggs existed before chickens did.
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Feed 42 to it and let us know how it goes!
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l33t writing makes you look like a clueless noob.
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New question: what came first the dinosaur or the egg?
Doesn't change much does it?
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I thought I remembered reading about a multi-qubit quantum computer that implemented Shor's algorithm for a small input?
It appears that Wikipedia says it was 15 = 3×5. That page says they used photonic qubits - as opposed to the aluminum qubits here, I guess. Can anyone enlighten me as to why these are better, or why this is a big deal? It seems that these decay just as quickly as the photonic ones.
oh "clueless"! I was having difficulty figuring out what the guy meant.
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Ah, so then you agree that it wasn't a chicken egg? ie Chicken came first (from non-chicken egg), then laid chicken egg.
The question has always been inane. We choose to define what is a "dinosaur" or what is an "egg", but nature doesn't care about our definitions. There must've been creatures with very similar reproductive or incubation systems that are not quite eggs. These creatures are also not quite "dinosaurs".
Neither: It was the Rooster who came first (it happens to every guy once in a while).
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Nah, the correct answer is: 42
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While each qubit is actually made up of a billion aluminum atoms, it acts like a single atom that can occupy two different energy states.
This sounds a like a bose-einstein condensate, where many atoms will act is if though they are all part of a larger, single atom. Also, it gains some pretty interesting properties, neither of which can be described exactly as solid, liquid or gas.
The article didn't mention anything about near absolute zero temps, though.
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"First Electronic Quantum Processor Created".. Sorry to spoil the fun, but does anyone do facts checking with these articles before posting? Guess not, because these guys presented a 28 qbit prototype and working quantum processor back in 07.
Moses: 300 qubits? That's awfully small, dude.
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Actually, the question, as written, is obvious. Chickens do not predate dinosaurs; dinosaurs had eggs; thus, eggs came first.
The question should be: which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg?
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Eh, looking from the Chicken's POV, its egg came first.
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I don't know Sybert42, why can't they?
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This idea was invented by Shampoo.
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Riiiiight. What's a qubit?
If I tell you, I'll lose my superposition high and collapse.
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No, no, you've got it backwards.
A non-chicken laid a chicken egg (i.e. the egg's genes were those of a chicken), from which hatched a chicken.
Depends on which one you are looking at.
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Imagine how much fuel could be saved by UPS or FedEx in a given year.
That depends on what makes it a chicken egg, what's inside it, or what produced it.
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In fact, due to the state superposition, any set of qubits longer then the number of bits in the GPL will necessarily contain the GPL.
Ditto for the Windows EULA. (what's worse, you can get the Windows EULA superposed over the GPL, and wind up with a completely undistributable state.)
What produced it just happened not to be a chicken. Something close, but not quite.
Except when posed in evolutionary terms, the whole question comes down to a problem of the human desire for classification versus nature's complete lack of giving a shit about that desire.
What precisely makes a chicken a chicken versus a chicken-minus-one-generation proto-chicken? Given that any population naturally has a degree of genetic variation, there's no "gold standard" for a chicken genome, and it is entirely possible that every gene we see in chickens was already present in the population of proto-chickens. It could be that the only thing differentiating the chicken from its proto-chicken parent is that the chicken was born into an environment where its only potential mates were other proto-chickens with the same subset of genes from the larger proto-chicken population. Then proto-chicken becomes chicken not by a mutation that completes the chicken genome, but by a quirk of fate that isolated a certain set of genes, and what was once a sub-species of proto-chicken is now its own species, the chicken.
Or it could be that in the list of traits we recognize as chicken-like, a hen laid an egg with the mutation that completed the last of these traits and thus was the chicken born to dominate the proto-chicken. Or a hundred thousand other possibilities I can't think of. I guess I'm just trying to add back in some mystery to an old philosophical question that science seems to give an answer too. :)
Oh and this is unrelated, but proto-chicken seriously needs to be a boss monster in some rpg.
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it happens to every guy once in a while
Once in a while?!
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
Which is really just an ambiguous question that becomes easy to answer as soon as you define what you mean by "chicken egg":
If you mean "an egg which, when fertilized appropriately, will produce a chicken" then clearly the chicken egg must have come first.
If you mean "an egg laid by a chicken" then clearly the chicken must have come first.
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That's just half of it. You have to precisely define what you mean by "chicken" first.
Then why do you sign your posts Anonymous Cowardon?
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The fact that they managed to construct a quantum computing device using solid-state physics is a technological breakthrough. It may revive the interest in the topic (which was fading due to lack of technological progress).
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Quantum computing is one of biggest hoaxes/crackpotteries in the history of science, on a par with the flat earth hypothesis.
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Honey, I got you these two solid-state qubits that hold their quantum states for a microsecond and can be used to perform rudimentary algorithms.
I agree, but the basic question remains: Will it run Vista ?
If they got this far and we know about it then how far has the NSA gotten?
this has serious implications for RSA.
I took a class on Quantum computing, and studied many specific QC algorithms, so I know a little bit about them. A lot of misunderstandings about them, so let me summarize.
Quantum Computers are not super-computers. On a bit-for-bit (or qubit-for-qubit) scale, they're not necessarily faster than regular computers, they just process info differently. Since information is stored in a quantum "superposition" of states, as opposed to a deterministic state like regular computers, the qubits exhibit quantum interference around other qubits. Typically, your bit starts in 50% '0' and 50% '1', and thus when you measure it, you get a 50% chance of it being one or the other (and then it assumes that state). But if you don't measure, and push it through quantum circuits allowing them to interact with other qubits, you get the quantum phases to interfere and cancel out. If you are damned smart (as I realized you have to be, to design QC algorithms), you can figure out creative ways to encode your problem into qubits, and use the interference to cancel out the information you don't want, and leave the information you do want.
For instance, some calculations will start with the 50/50 qubit above, and end with 99% '0' and 1% '1' at the end of the calculation, or vice versa, depending on the answer. Then you've got a 99% chance of getting the right answer. If you run the calculation twice, you have a 99.99% chance of measuring the correct answer.
However, the details of these circuits which perform quantum algorithms are extremely non-intuitive to most people, even those who study it. I found it to require an amazing degree of creativity, to figure out how to combine qubits to take advantage of quantum interference constructively. But what does this get us?
Well it turns out that quantum computers can run anything a classical computer can do, and such algorithms can be written identically if you really wanted to, but doing so gets the same results as the classical computer (i.e. same order of growth). But, the smart people who have been publishing papers about this for the past 20 years have been finding new ways to combine qubits, to take advantage of nature of certain problems (usually deep, pure-math concepts), to achieve better orders of growth than possible on a classical computer. For instance, factoring large numbers is difficult on classical computers, which is why RSA/PGP/GPG/PKI/SSL is secure. It's order of growth is e^( n^(1/3) ). It's not quite exponential, but it's still prohibitive. It turns out that Shor figured out how to get it to n^2 on a quantum computer (which is the same order of growth as decrypting with the private key on a classical computer!). Strangely, trying to guess someone's encryption key, normally O(n) on classical computers (where n is the number of possible keys encryption keys) it's only O(sqrt(n)) on QCs. Weird (but sqrt(n) is still usually too big).
There's a vast number of other problems for which efficient quantum algorithms have been found. Unfortunately, a lot of these problems aren't particularly useful in real life (besides to the curious pure-mathematician). A lot of them are better, but not phenomenal. Like verifying that two sparse matrices were mulitplied correctly has order of growth n^(7/3) on a classical computer, n^(5/3) on a quantum computer. You can find a pretty extensive list by googling "quantum algorithm zoo."
Unfortunately [for humanity], there is no evidence yet that quantum computers will solve NP-complete problems efficiently. Most likely, they won't. So don't get your hopes up about solving the traveling salesmen problem any time soon. But there is still a lot of cool stuff we can do with them. In fact, the theory is so far ahead of the technology, that we're anxiously waiting for breakthroughs like this, so we can start plugging problems through known algorithms.
Fish lay eggs.
Actually, it depends on how you define "chicken egg", unless there is a universally accepted definition that I'm not aware of. The genes of the organism in the egg were those of a chicken, but the egg itself was developed based on the genes of the mother, which you have stated was a non-chicken. Perhaps it was the father's genes which contained the crucial mutation that resulted in a chicken hatching from the non-chicken's egg. In that case, did it become a chicken egg after it was fertilized? It doesn't seem to make any sense to say it was a chicken egg before it was fertilized. Such a discontinuity doesn't sit well with me -- I would prefer to say that the type of egg is defined by the organism that produces the egg, since that event occurs before the genetics of the organism inside the egg are fully determined. I could come up with a more extreme, but similar, scenario involving hybrid creatures.
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Two qubits? As far as I'm concerned that's not a quantum processor, it's a quantum transistor. Wake me up when they have a few of these things slung together to make a logic gate.
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So, what do you make an artificial atom out of?
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That's nice, but if they can't scale it, or create entanglement between the qubits, it isn't going to be of any immediate use. Some guys at IBM built a quantum circuit to factor the number 15, which took seven qubits, and that was not a general algorithm. The general algorithm would take 3-10 times (you'd want error correction for larger numbers) the number of bits needed to represent the number.
the chicken had to get laid before the egg could
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This has been the holy grail of computing for a while now. Sorry, I would not put the champagne on ice. There will be more challenges in engineering this into a workable solution.
Still the egg. But if you were to ask which came first, the egg or the life-form, then fortunately we could answer: the life-form. Asexual reproduction precedes sexual reproduction.
Yes! No! Maybe? Er... I think you'd have to look at it to be sure.