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Best Free Open Source Software For Windows

snydeq writes "InfoWorld surveys the FOSS-on-Windows landscape, detailing the 10 free open source solutions most likely to unseat proprietary offerings. 'Some, like TrueCrypt and VirtualBox, are real diamonds in the rough: enterprise-grade solutions that deliver many of the same bells and whistles of their commercial brethren, but for free. Others, like Firefox and OpenOffice.org, are already legendary, and their strong followings ensure their continued development and support at levels that rival the best proprietary solutions.'" Rather than click through 10 different pages, the slideshow presentation at least lets you hover over each page's link to preview the author's top picks.

324 comments

  1. I can't believe they forgot by tacarat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Cowboy Neal

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    1. Re:I can't believe they forgot by Divebus · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Ubuntu

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    2. Re:I can't believe they forgot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ubuntu sucks balls. Most of the packages are out of date by the time a new version comes out, you can't really do audio/video over the major IM networks properly, not all hardware is supported, many major software applications aren't supported, the GUI is as ugly has hell and there are no GUI standards. Using specialised hardware is quite often impossible. Also, like Windows there are a tonne of security issues: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn

    3. Re:I can't believe they forgot by leachim6 · · Score: 1

      Although you can now install Ubuntu inside Windows with Portable Ubuntu,
      or along side Windows with WUBI, it is not technically a Windows application.

      Due to the fact that they are only dealing with native windows applications
      is the simple reason why Ubuntu was not feature on the list.

      **Unrelated Sidenote:This comment written on Ubuntu**

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  2. "Hover on the slideshow"...? by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You could just list them in the summary - in less space than it takes to explain the "hover" trick

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    1. Re:"Hover on the slideshow"...? by VoltageX · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or better, www.osalt.com, lists Windows Apps and their alternatives.

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    2. Re:"Hover on the slideshow"...? by Mozk · · Score: 1

      ClamWin is a tweaker's paradise [...]

      Yeah, those meth addicts sure like their antivirus software.

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    3. Re:"Hover on the slideshow"...? by BenBoy · · Score: 1

      ... and rather than complain about that, you might have listed them in your post :-)
      FileZilla
      VirtualBox
      OpenOffice.org
      Firefox 3.5
      Paint.Net
      Media Player Classic
      TrueCrypt
      PDFCreator
      7-Zip
      ClamWin

  3. Print: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  4. The list, for those who don't care about pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. FileZilla
    2. VirtualBox
    3. OpenOffice.Org
    4. Firefox
    5. Paint.Net
    6. Media Player Classic
    7. TrueCrypt
    8. PDFCreator
    9. 7-Zip
    10. ClamWin
  5. Lisp in a Box by rolfwind · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Not going to be the next firefox in terms of popularity... but lisp in a box is just nice for getting into lisp/emacs on any platform. Used to be a big learning curve how to set slime, etc. up and all that.

    http://common-lisp.net/project/lispbox/

    1. Re:Lisp in a Box by Junaos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      (let ((lisp (not real programming language))) ((parentheses (too many))) )

    2. Re:Lisp in a Box by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, one day, you will surely grow up.

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    3. Re:Lisp in a Box by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Man, don't be dissing Lisp. Lisp is the foundation of a lot of the niftier concepts in lots of languages today, and is considered by most computer scientists to be one of the most perfect languages ever invented. Yeah, all those parentheses are a pain, but they consistently push you to do the Right Thing, and for me one of the highest complements I can place on non-Lisp code is "that looks almost Lisp-ish".

      And if you don't believe me, believe these guys:
      "The greatest single programming language ever designed." - Alan Kay
      "Lisp is worth learning for the profound enlightenment experience you will have when you finally get it; that experience will make you a better programmer for the rest of your days, even if you never actually use Lisp itself a lot." - ESR
      "LISP being the most powerful and cleanest of languages, that's the language that's the GNU project always prefers." - RMS
      "Any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp." - Philip Greenspun
      "These are your father's parentheses. Elegant weapons, for a more... civilized age." - Randal Munroe

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    4. Re:Lisp in a Box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Step 1: Cut a hole in a box.

      Step 2: Put your lisp in that box.

      Step 3: Make her open the box.

      and that's the way you dooo iiiiit

    5. Re:Lisp in a Box by TrebleMaker · · Score: 2, Informative

      "These are your father's parentheses. Elegant weapons, for a more... civilized age." - Randall Munroe

      Fixed that for ya.

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  6. Truecrypt by dnaumov · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is the reason I actually stuck with Windows 2008 Server when evaluating my choices for a home NAS solution with easy-to-use partition encryption that doesn't get in my way and yes, I had tried out different Linux and *BSD-based solutions, but in the end, Win2008+Truecrypt was simply too powerful and too convenient to not pick as the clear winner. I might look at FreeBSD and OpenSolaris again when ZFS crypto finally gets implemented to see how it fares on the usability side of things.

    1. Re:Truecrypt by cstdenis · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is a Linux version of TrueCrypt.

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    2. Re:Truecrypt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What's the point of an encrypted disk on a server? Isn't the whole point of a server to "serve" that data constantly (ie the data is availble at all times)? I mean, unless you unmount/remount the volumes each time you use them, encryption isn't really doing anything but taking up extra CPU cycles.

    3. Re:Truecrypt by johnthorensen · · Score: 1

      http://xkcd.com/538/

      And that's all I have to say about that.

    4. Re:Truecrypt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, on Linux you have a bunch of choices and TrueCrypt would actually be my last choice just because of the secretive development that goes on around it.

      dm-crypt and loop-aes are both good proven choices (although loop-aes seems to be losing steam as it's still not in the kernel by default).

    5. Re:Truecrypt by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Maybe he has a bunch of illegal files on there (KP).

      If you're worried about the security of data on your server, then keep your house/office locked properly.

    6. Re:Truecrypt by hemp · · Score: 1

      How do you justify the $800 price tag on Win 2008?

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    7. Re:Truecrypt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    8. Re:Truecrypt by dnaumov · · Score: 1

      How do you justify the $800 price tag on Win 2008?

      There are plenty of ways to obtain Win2008 in a legal way without paying 800$: Technet, MSDN through work, an EDU account, etc, etc

    9. Re:Truecrypt by zonky · · Score: 1

      If they're using the Technet / MSDN install at home as a NAS, it's probably not legal.

    10. Re:Truecrypt by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

      How hard was it to set up the NAS? I had a bootcamp VMware instructor (also consultant) that said getting Win 2008's NAS working was a nightmare compared to Win 2003. And he's a self-proclaimed "Windows guy". Take it for what you will.

    11. Re:Truecrypt by onemorechip · · Score: 1

      Maybe he runs truecrypt on the client; this would prevent anyone snooping the network from reading the data.

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  7. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Hatta · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Hmm, seems they left out Wubi.

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  8. VirtualBox huh? by RichardJenkins · · Score: 0

    Not reading the article, I assume your considering VMWare Workstation its commercial brethren? VirtualBox doesn't include USB support in the Open Source version, which for my needs makes it a non-starter.

    Their proprietary version (free for personal use - even in a commercial environment) is a pretty good alternative.

    1. Re:VirtualBox huh? by zuzulo · · Score: 1

      Thats just blatantly untrue for me anyway - i am using the VirtualBox open source edition extremely frequently and i get USB support out of the box for input devices, mass storage, etc. So far i havent found anything 'bad' about it, and trust me, i have been looking. Are you using the latest versions and have you actually *tried* the USB support?

      Frankly i like VirtualBox better than any other commercial or open source solution for virtualization, and i have tried them all. Maybe when a good microkernel virtualization system comes out that handles devices including graphics well, but until then or i run across something VirtualBox doesnt support, it has my vote ...

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    2. Re:VirtualBox huh? by Timothy+Brownawell · · Score: 1

      VirtualBox doesn't include USB support in the Open Source version

      I thought this changed recently?

    3. Re:VirtualBox huh? by RichardJenkins · · Score: 1

      I was using 2.1.4 from the Ubuntu repositories. VirtualBox themselves still list it as only being in the closed Source version only (http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions) and a quick look at the release notes doesn't show a change in policy, but someone else replied that they've got USB with the OSE in the latest version, so maybe it is in v3 OSE

      Certainly the closed source edition has very good support for USB and they say proprietary features may be included in the OSE in the future. Can anyone clarify?

    4. Re:VirtualBox huh? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      That's pure bullshit. Not only does the open source edition support USB, but it supports it well enough that I got a friend's MagicJack up and running on an WinXP guest a couple of weeks ago.

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    5. Re:VirtualBox huh? by RichardJenkins · · Score: 1

      Your adamance makes it tempting to switch back to the OSE, but since VirtualBox themselves and the Ubuntu docs as of July 26th still proclaim it to only be in the closed source version I suspect you're full of shit, and have mistaken the PUEL edition for Open Source. What version did you install to get USB support?

  9. Printer Friendly List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AKA No Slideshow version
    http://www.infoworld.com/print/84903

  10. Wubi? by jdb2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seriously though, if you include Cooperative Linux then you get to include most of the Posix/Unix/Linux free-software universe.

    But still, I say Wubi is the #1 piece of free software to be had on Windows -- har har har. :P ;)

    jdb2

    1. Re:Wubi? by jdb2 · · Score: 1

      Obviously someone can't take a joke.

      jdb2

    2. Re:Wubi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's better than being modded down by some open source zealot who can't accept that linux doesn't live up to it's mythological status. nothing is more pathetic than being modded down for being honest.

      but this is slashdot. it's not about the truth.

    3. Re:Wubi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why is that modded informative when it should me modded funny ? Wubi is a piece of shit. It makes a so bad linux installation most people remove it quickly saying linux is really slow.

  11. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by whitefox · · Score: 3, Informative

    Or if you want pictures browse to the print view of the article.

  12. And then there is... by bmo · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Open Source For Windows project

    http://osswin.sourceforge.net/

    And while the Open Source CD project is dead, it looks like there's an alternative.

    http://www.ttcsweb.org/osswin-cd/

    Now if only Windows had Debian style repositories.

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    1. Re:And then there is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Now if only Windows had Debian style repositories."

      I couldn't have said it better. In fact, package management is my number one reason for liking Linux!

  13. Best open source software for WINDOWS by Junaos · · Score: 3, Insightful
    So obviously the answer is VirtualBox.

    THEN Ubuntu.

    1. Re:Best open source software for WINDOWS by Divebus · · Score: 1

      I was thinking the Ubuntu LiveCD

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    2. Re:Best open source software for WINDOWS by Divebus · · Score: 1

      Ballmer? Is that you?

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    3. Re:Best open source software for WINDOWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Or Wubi

    4. Re:Best open source software for WINDOWS by Eudial · · Score: 1

      One could argue that the best thing that could happen to windows is to be replaced with Ubuntu.

      Not that I completely agree with that reasoning. Driving the computer illiterate masses into Linux just causes headache for the Linux savvy that have to spend their days explaining to people where the Start menu is in Linux.

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    5. Re:Best open source software for WINDOWS by compro01 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or andLinux.

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    6. Re:Best open source software for WINDOWS by digitalunity · · Score: 1

      Hah aren't you funny.

      I haven't read the article yet, but my own personal list of nice OSS Windows software is as follows:

      PostgreSQL - The installer is silky smooth and the DB is extremely reliable.

      Visual SVN - This is a windows management console front-end for Subversion administration. The installer is very nice and the MMC snap-in is easy to use.

      Qt Creator - I have virtually entirely replaced MS Visual Studio for my windows development needs. It has very nice integration with MinGW and doesn't require Cygwin-a functional but slow pile of junk.

      OpenOffice - This probably was on the list, and for good reason. The functionality just keeps getting better, to the point where I rarely use the copy of MS Office I keep around for compatibility reasons.

      Pidgin - Probably the most feature-complete IM program around and the windows version works just as good as the linux version.

      Inkscape - There is no easier to use vector drawing program for windows, including closed source alternatives. The installer sucks though, it's extremely slow.

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    7. Re:Best open source software for WINDOWS by leachim6 · · Score: 1

      One could argue that the best thing that could happen to windows is to be replaced with Ubuntu.

      Not that I completely agree with that reasoning. Driving the computer illiterate masses into Linux just causes headache for the Linux savvy that have to spend their days explaining to people where the Start menu is in Linux.

      So what you're saying is...
      that you wanna keep Linux, "for us cool kids"
      haha

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    8. Re:Best open source software for WINDOWS by Eudial · · Score: 1

      One could argue that the best thing that could happen to windows is to be replaced with Ubuntu.

      Not that I completely agree with that reasoning. Driving the computer illiterate masses into Linux just causes headache for the Linux savvy that have to spend their days explaining to people where the Start menu is in Linux.

      So what you're saying is...
      that you wanna keep Linux, "for us cool kids"
      haha

      What I'm saying is, "us cool kids" learned it by our lonesome from books and online texts. We didn't learn it by nagging more experienced people to hold our hands and explain it to them in simple terms.

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  14. paint.net? by fermion · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Never heard of the application. Summary say it is extremely limited. Is there a reason, other than complexity of interface, that one might choose it over gimp. I suppose gimp does not have all the shapes of a drawing program, but it does paint, with colors.

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    1. Re:paint.net? by EvanED · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is there a reason, other than complexity of interface, that one might choose it over gimp.

      "complexity of interface" is a pretty damn good thing to base a decision on.

      I suppose gimp does not have all the shapes of a drawing program, but it does paint, with colors.

      When you have to look up documentation to figure out how to draw a straight line in the Gimp, and that documentation is somewhat condescending, you might start to think that the Gimp isn't actually that good for simple tasks.

    2. Re:paint.net? by Seraphim_72 · · Score: 1

      It is damn fast to load and pretty light to use.

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    3. Re:paint.net? by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 1

      Paint.net is 1.6 megabytes and does everything most people need, even people who take a lot of photos but don't need to go into professional-level editing. It's one of the most impressive programs on any platform.

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    4. Re:paint.net? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Article conflates the meanings of "Free".

      It says it's "free" only, not OSS. They mean free-as-in-beer. However, the Free if FOSS means free-as-in-freedom.

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    5. Re:paint.net? by Nimloth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Paint .NET is a real good middle ground between MS Paint and Photoshop. The interface is lightning fast and neat, real easy to use, and pretty powerful. For a home user who occasionally has to edit graphics and/or photos, it's a neat program and it's free. Sure beats MS Paint at anything. If you're used to the GIMP, stick with it.

    6. Re:paint.net? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Because not everyone wants to retouch photos or do other complex things requiring a tool like GIMP. Many times, simpler is indeed better. If I'm just drawing a simple diagram, and don't want to futz around with some Visio-like tool (such as Kivio) since it'll take me three times as long, I just start up a simple paint tool, such as KolourPaint in KDE.

    7. Re:paint.net? by GF678 · · Score: 1

      Paint.NET is extremely small (1.6 MB download). It uses the .NET framework so it's well integrated with the Windows GUI. Unlike the GIMP it's very easy to use. It's fast. It doesn't have as many function as GIMP sure, but what it does have, it's nicer to use than GIMP by miles.

    8. Re:paint.net? by abigor · · Score: 1

      The best thing about that assholish tutorial is the terrible spelling and grammar. What a joke.

    9. Re:paint.net? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      According to its website (http://www.getpaint.net/license.html) Paint.NET is MIT-licensed. I don't know which doublespeak definition of "free" that goes under, but it's definitely open source.

    10. Re:paint.net? by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Sure, here's two reasons:

      1) It's rock solid stable. GIMP is crash-prone on Windows. I swear I've caused it to crash by missing a toolbar button and clicking inbetween.
      2) It has easy to create extensions, vastly enhancing capabilities. Stuff like, altering the colour tone of multiple images to match. You give it an old-style Western scene, and it'll turn any photo into that. Like most gimp-lovers, you seem to think "ease of use" counteracts "powerful". Software can be both. Paint.net is simplistic, powerful, and extensible.

    11. Re:paint.net? by Lightn · · Score: 1

      Except that the source code does not seem to actually be available. The download page that is linked from the license page does not say anything about source code except how it is licensed. Looking at the source of the page shows a commented out section that talks about how to get the source code and links here. However the link to the source code on that page is dead.

      Also, the license has an exception for the GPC code, which is free for non-commercial use only. Admittedly, I don't know how much functionality it enables in Paint.Net.

      So I would say an MIT license without any actual source code available is less than free.

    12. Re:paint.net? by Petrushka · · Score: 1

      Is there a reason, other than complexity of interface, that one might choose it over gimp.

      "complexity of interface" is a pretty damn good thing to base a decision on.

      That. I have moved in the last couple of months to using Ubuntu at work and am loving it, except that I really, really miss Paint.NET. Using the GIMP is like using Lotus Notes. But Ubuntu is so good in other respects that I'm sticking with it. Some people dual-boot for games; I'm dual-booting for image editing.

      When you have to look up documentation to figure out how to draw a straight line in the Gimp, and that documentation is somewhat condescending, you might start to think that the Gimp isn't actually that good for simple tasks.

      Oh my gods. I see what you mean. I'm a bit puzzled, though by:

      "After you have a starting point, and have held down the Shift Key, you'll see a line like above if you're running GIMP version 1.2.x or later. This feature was not present in GIMP version 1.0.4. However, the next step works the same way."

      What a tosser "Seth" is. But ... could you really not draw straight lines in the GIMP in v.1.0.4?!

    13. Re:paint.net? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Inkscape + GIMP is everything you need (well, not everything but decent for drawing). I love Inkscape, I just wish it was faster.

    14. Re:paint.net? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't heard of paint.net either.

      I have found Inkscape to be a very good alternative to MS Paint.

    15. Re:paint.net? by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1
      Another reason? Loading time. Memory use.

      The simplicity is a virtue. Really, Paint.NET is wonderful entry-level software. It's what Microsoft Paint / Paintbrush should have been, if not in Windows XP then at least by the time Vista came out: A quick way to load up a picture, draw some squares, plop on some text, and save it in another file format. Or to let your 7-year-old doodle around with to make pictures.... with a user interface that feels fresh, and easy to use - not some old clunk-bucket dragged along from Windows 2.

      If Microsoft made a real, modern, user-friendly desktop operating system, they'd bundle Paint.NET with Windows. Heck, if Linux made a real, modern, user-friendly desktop operating system, they'd bundle a Paint.NET equivalent with Linux. (I guess that leaves us with... Apple? I don't have a mac; do they have an equivalent? Sad commentary on the state of desktop operating systems.)

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    16. Re:paint.net? by shellbeach · · Score: 1

      When you have to look up documentation to figure out how to draw a straight line in the Gimp, and that documentation is somewhat condescending, you might start to think that the Gimp isn't actually that good for simple tasks.

      Strange ... drawing a straight line in the Gimp is a pretty straightforward (pardon the pun) thing to do, all you need is the paint tool of your choice and the shift key. Even if you can't figure it out intuitively, the interface tells you down the bottom when a paint tool is selected "(try Shift for a straight line, Ctrl to pick a color)". Why is this so difficult to grasp? Personally, if we're trading individual anecdotes here, I tried paint.net and struggled; in comparison, the Gimp did everything paint.net could do and more. But I think the real surprise about paint.net being included in a list of open-source software is that it's not open-source in the first place ...

      Anyway, if you want to draw straight lines, a vector graphics program like Inkscape is probably going to be more your scene. And that's the glaring omission in the list for me: Inkscape is a brilliant vector graphics implementation and I would have thought it easily deserved a mention.

    17. Re:paint.net? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      Paint.NET is, basically, on par in functionality to an older version of Paint Shop Pro (call it version 9). PSP was my favorite 'paint' program in Windows, back when I still used Windows with regularity. Until recently, I have rebooted to Windows (or used it in a vm) if I wanted to do something with a bitmap editor just so I could use PSP/Paint.NET/GimpShop (I'm not going to pay for Photoshop, and I don't particularly care for its UI, anyway).

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    18. Re:paint.net? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holly crap, after reading that tutorial I will continue to use Paint.net and stay far, far away from gimp. I sure hope that it some kind of joke. Paint.net is so simple to use - everything is in the first place I look for and just works as I expect it to.

    19. Re:paint.net? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 1

      Paint.NET hardly approaches Photoshop at all. Paint.NET lacks quite important features like a soft eraser, and the ability to select the area in the current layer that has been painted on.

    20. Re:paint.net? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think that's condescension -- I think that's just inept nerd humour.

    21. Re:paint.net? by Briareos · · Score: 1

      GIMP is crash-prone on Windows. I swear I've caused it to crash by missing a toolbar button and clicking inbetween.

      I envy you. All I ever manage in GIMP is to have it lock up in an infinite loop - but not crashing - at the most inappropriate time whenever I use it's menus... :(

      Is it just me, or is GIMP a good paint program hampered by an abysmally unstable (at least on Windows) GUI toolkit?

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    22. Re:paint.net? by jcupitt65 · · Score: 1

      But ... could you really not draw straight lines in the GIMP in v.1.0.4?!

      You could, you just didn't get the floating rubber band feedback while you dragged the mouse. Or that's my memory, gimp1.0.4 was more than 10 years ago.

    23. Re:paint.net? by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Um, there's 2 ways and either one is very simple.

      Super-easy way: use shift key with any brush to draw a straight line from your last click to your next one.

      Less easy way: define a path and stroke along the path

      GIMP does things in a backward way, but it's very simple once you figure that out. First you select something, then you act on the selection.

      To draw a line or curve, you define it (paths tool), then you stroke along the path (line style, brush, foreground color).

      To draw a solid shape, you define it (various selection tools), then you fill it.

      To draw an outlined shape, you define it (various selection tools), then you outline it (stroke along selection edge).

      Etc.

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    24. Re:paint.net? by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Strange ... drawing a straight line in the Gimp is a pretty straightforward (pardon the pun) thing to do, all you need is the paint tool of your choice and the shift key.

      Sure. Once you know how to do it. In retrospect it even makes a lot of "sense"... a lot of programs use shift or something similar to lock the modification in some way. Make a line only horizontal or vertical, resize an object keeping aspect ratio, etc.

      But even I'd never think to try it to see what happens.

      Even if you can't figure it out intuitively, the interface tells you down the bottom when a paint tool is selected "(try Shift for a straight line, Ctrl to pick a color)".

      The version I have installed doesn't. Granted, it's now quite out-of-date (2.2.13, current is 2.6; mine is 3 years old), so this is still a relatively new feature. I didn't realize my version was that old. (Ah the joys of RHEL.)

      Anyway, if you want to draw straight lines, a vector graphics program like Inkscape is probably going to be more your scene.

      Maybe. Depends what you're doing. There are plenty of times you might want to draw a line on an existing picture or something like that.

    25. Re:paint.net? by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I find GIMP is a lot more intuitive if you first think of an area and then you describe the action you want to perform.

      E.g. "draw a line": define a line using the "paths" tool, then paint along the path using the "stroke path" menu option. (Okay, they did add the shift method, but this method would be more consistent with the rest of the things you'll be doing in GIMP: select, then perform.)

      Similarly you can select areas and then outline or fill them to draw shapes (rectangles, ellipses, polygons, etc).

      Everything in GIMP tends to follow this rule. You choose a layer, or you define a selection, or you draw a path... then you do something that only affects what you've identified. It could be filling it with a solid fill, it could be applying a Gaussian blur, or it could be changing the contrast or hue.

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    26. Re:paint.net? by fernandolbastos · · Score: 1

      Actually the source was available, so this previous source release is still FOSS

      Just look at paint-mono to see what I am talking about.

    27. Re:paint.net? by Acer500 · · Score: 1

      I did something similar to that tutorial once. No, I did not like my users either.

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  15. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    Thanks.

    I couldn't make it to page 4 before it got /.-ed.

  16. Cygwin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cygwin!

  17. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by LaskoVortex · · Score: 3, Informative

    I know many people who have used OpenOffice and not one of them thinks it holds its own against MS Office.

    Me. Now you know one. Will that stop you from posting trollbait like this?

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  18. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by lawpoop · · Score: 5, Informative

    PDFCreator!? I just downloaded and installed it yesterday on a Vista machine at work. I got a Yahoo search toolbar installed after specifically telling the installer app not to do so, and then I also got a 404 redirector installed too!

    This was from the installer I downloaded from sourceforge...

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  19. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by east+coast · · Score: 1

    How many people do you really know who use Outlook outside of the corporate environment?

    For what OO does offer Outlook was the last thing it needed. Maybe now would be a good time to include it but overall it seems that most home users are using web mail.

    Hell, I have Outlook on my machines and I still don't use it.

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  20. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wireshark

  21. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by harmonise · · Score: 4, Informative

    How about a list of more apps?

    Anyone else have any good recommendations?

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  22. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I truly pity anyone who really thinks FileZilla is the best FTP client out there. Why don't more people worship The Perfection That Is WinSCP? :(

  23. does cygwin count as open source? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really like my cygwin. I would probably move to linux if I didn't have it.

  24. InfraRecorder by travisb828 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I recently came across InfraRecorder and was impressed.

    http://infrarecorder.org/

    1. Re:InfraRecorder by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

      Same here.

      Combined with DVD43_4-4-0_Setup.exe you can burn/play anything. DVD43 eliminates all those pesky region locks and such.

      Da link... http://www.dvd43.com/

  25. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by harmonise · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, I had that happen when I recently installed it. It's pretty slimy and left me with a bad impression of PDFCreator.

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  26. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Killer+Orca · · Score: 0, Troll
    How on Earth is this list the top 10? Many of these products have serious competition, or betters

    FileZilla

    Didn't work when I tried it for a simple FTP transfer because of default settings I couldn't figure out how to undo.

    VirtualBox

    Never tried it

    OpenOffice.Org

    Besides the fact that it is implementing an Office 2007 style ribbon who outside of business users really needs a full office suite anymore?

    Firefox

    Maybe if Opera open sources their browser they can be on this list, not sure if Chrome is really open.

    Paint.Net

    What about the GIMP, or is it because this is dead simple to use?

    Media Player Classic

    My vote goes to VLC here, hands-down.

    TrueCrypt

    Never used it.

    PDFCreator

    I only view PDFs so I have never needed creation software, and when I view them I use Sumatra.

    7-Zip

    I've heard better things about PeaZip, but I have not used either too much.

    ClamWin

    I thought this wasn't even under development any more? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

  27. VirtualBox, eh? by rainmaestro · · Score: 2, Informative

    I suppose it has a few pluses:
    --It isn't a memory hog like VMWare.
    --Guest tool installation is noticeably easier for non-MS guests.

    But I still have issues:
    --Installing guest tools completely breaks my OpenSolaris guest display.
    --My shiny 1 GB graphics card becomes a 128 MB POS in the guests.
    --No USB support in the Open version.
    --Running my OpenSolaris guest in NAT mode totally gimps the connection.

    VirtualBox isn't bad, but I can't see it being a VMWare killer anytime soon.

    1. Re:VirtualBox, eh? by kill-1 · · Score: 1

      Yes, calling VirtualBox "enterprise grade" stretches it a little bit. It's a nice tool and they're making consistent progress, but I wouldn't recommend it for mission-critical solutions. There are just too many little bugs, also regressions in new versions. Most of them get fixed over time, but I still have to work around some things. VMWare on the other side has "always worked" for me.

    2. Re:VirtualBox, eh? by Slashcrap · · Score: 3, Funny

      --My shiny 1 GB graphics card becomes a 128 MB POS in the guests.

      Yes, that certainly is a disadvantage compared to other virtualisation products which do exactly the same fucking thing.

    3. Re:VirtualBox, eh? by packman · · Score: 1

      VMWare a memory hog? What? Running a blank winxp with only helper drivers installed in vmware vs virtualbox, both configured with 512mb ram: vmware: 80mb (all processes including DHCP etc counted), VirtualBox: 230mb

    4. Re:VirtualBox, eh? by rainmaestro · · Score: 1

      I never claimed the alternatives don't do the same thing. I simply said it was a problem that keeps me from considering it enterprise-ready.

  28. What about VLC? by shinedog · · Score: 5, Informative

    Surely VLC should have made this list? While it isn't exactly pretty it is very much FOSS, cross platform, and removes the need to download endless quantities of random codecs. Definitely better that Media Player classic in my book.

    1. Re:What about VLC? by bogaboga · · Score: 1

      Prettiness aside, I wonder why extended settings to for example tweak audio or video metrics always require two clicks to access.

      And even after accessing them, you need to re-activate them before any adjustment.

      Why? The reason I access these settings is to adjust them so it's better if I find them already activated. Is this too much to ask?

    2. Re:What about VLC? by GF678 · · Score: 1

      It's probably worth mentioning Media Player Classic Home Cinema, which is a fork of MPC that contains (among other things) integrated codecs via ffdshow. I prefer using this to VLC because of the various weird GUI bugs in VLC, plus the accurate seeking MPC-HC has compared to VLC. VLC comes a close second though, and first place if you aren't running Windows.

    3. Re:What about VLC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also worth mentioning is the DXVA support of MPC-HomeCinema. With DXVA, a $30 Nvidia 8400gs plays 1080p HDTV H264 files with almost no processor load.

    4. Re:What about VLC? by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      VLC is certainly better at playing random video files, but I prefer the UI for MPC.

    5. Re:What about VLC? by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Surely VLC [videolan.org] should have made this list? While it isn't exactly pretty it is very much FOSS, cross platform, and removes the need to download endless quantities of random codecs. Definitely better that Media Player classic in my book.

      Well, yes, and no. VLC should've been included, but so should some other programs. I have a feeling I could list over 20 deserving freeware programs. Heck, I think MediaCoder should be on the list, too.

      My personal opinion is that MPC is more useful - in part because of the hardware acceleration, and limitless amounts of DirectShow codecs available - and in part because MPC-HC includes quality enhancing GPU shaders.

      VLC is an absolute must on many other platforms, but on Windows there's better solutions if you take the time to find them. (I say "better" from a codec compatibility, decode speed, and image quality standpoint)

    6. Re:What about VLC? by tepples · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Surely VLC should have made this list?

      The list was posted on a U.S. web site. VLC contains patented algorithms but doesn't come with a license to use the algorithms in the United States.

    7. Re:What about VLC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely better that Media Player classic in my book.

      VLC has ugly subtitles.

    8. Re:What about VLC? by imakemusic · · Score: 1

      They both play everything I've thrown at them and neither of them are particularly pretty. *shrugs*

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    9. Re:What about VLC? by Reservoir+Penguin · · Score: 1

      Sure VLC plays everything you throw at it but it got shitty built-in codecs, so I would only use it as a last resort.

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    10. Re:What about VLC? by Thaelon · · Score: 1

      I don't understand what anyone sees in VLC. It's a usability train wreck.

      In MPC, spacebar pauses/plays. So does clicking the video.

      Last time I used VLC, I abandoned it seconds into using it because it was so user un-friendly, and the settings dialog was a total clusterfuck.

      MPC can play anything VLC can, but without being irritating or getting in the way of itself.

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  29. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One here, for starters. I'm a non-corporate guy who needs a nice integrated contacts/calendar/tasklist app that works offline as well as online. Basically something like Outlook but not Outlook. Any suggestions? Thanx

  30. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by sconeu · · Score: 1

    I was going to suggest CutePDF, but it's freeware, not FLOSS.

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  31. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, Paint.NET is no longer open source.

  32. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anachragnome · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's interesting.

    I did a recent verbal survey in a literature class at the community college I am attending and 45% of the class was using it exclusively(other then the forced use of MS Office at the college labs).

    I did it again at the end of the semester and that number had changed to 60%. It is possible that my first survey prompted the increase, but I also asked if the newer users preferred it over MS's product. ALL of them said they did. I then asked WHY.

    The most common answer was that it was completely cross-compatible as far as opening MS created files...and it was free. The students could create files on the school MS system, then go home and open it in Open Office. And that it was free. Another reason they gave was that it was free.

    I understand that there are some issues with bouncing back and forth between MS Office and Open Office, but most students choose one or the other. And its free.

    As you might expect, students are not keen on spending upwards of $200 on MS Office when they can get Open Office for...free.

    Did I mention that it is free?

  33. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous+Cowar · · Score: 1

    Here i was thinking it would introduce me to NEW stuff, pretty much the only piece i don't have hours and hours of experience with is virtualbox. I guess that slashdot eats up these pat-on-the-back articles endorsing software that they've been using for YEARS.

  34. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the info. Enough reason to delete it from my download folder.

  35. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by NervousNerd · · Score: 1

    I believe you've never heard of Evolution then.

  36. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as well as numerous individuals and businesses that I know.
    How many do you know? Two?

    They don't call it Microsoft LookOut! for a reason. Your looking for an organizer that does email. There are lots of solutions that don't require a Windows + Office and per computer license(s). If you send me $50 USD I will send you 5 different PIM/Email programs for you to keep. Of course, if you weren't a such dumb-ass, you would just Google a solution yourself.

    Enjoy.

  37. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    Open Office + Thunderbird?

    Works for me, and has for quite some time. It really isn't that hard to Control-c and Control-v.

  38. Wow, I just found the other half of this list!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Turns out, TFA has a part 2. I'll just give the programs listed in that part.

    vlc (the only player you will (most likely) ever need)*

    cygwin (unix like environment)

    kde for windows (desktop environment for windows, cool)

    wubi (ubuntu installer for windows)

    pidgin (IM/IRC)*

    tremulous (3d aliens vs humans game)

    latex (document preparing)*

    python (language)* :P

    vim (editor)*

    emacs (editor)* (yes I'm evil, don't state the obvious)

    * you left this out? really?

    There are many more that deserve to be mentioned but I just don't have the will. have fun.

  39. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, I fought with MS Office 2007 today and lost the battle. I had to complete the task with OpenOffice. The document reached a size where things started to screw up at random: Paragraph numbers disappear, the table of contents screws up, the bullets menu becomes greyed out so I cannot apply bullets to a list (but doing them one at a time by typing an asterisk worked). Gawddammit.

    So people who keep saying that MS Office is better than OpenOffice are probably only working on one page memos. In my experience MS Office 2007 is a bug ridden POS and OOo is quite a bit better - not perfect either, but much better - especially with large documents.

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  40. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. FileZilla

    FileZilla may be among the best FTP clients Open Source has to offer, but it doesn't even count as competition to closed source FTP clients like SmartFTP. That said, I still prefer it for its license.

    VirtualBox

    VirtualBox is clearly in the early stages of becoming a very useful program, but so far it lacks everything that could make it an "enterprise level" application. Let's revisit that classification when it does branched snapshots and virtual machine migration (preferably live).

    OpenOffice.org

    Good stuff, but this is the one area where not being the "standard" is a huge flaw.

    Firefox

    Mozilla should stop turning Firefox into an extension of Google services. Apart from that, Firefox rocks. Enterprises would probably like some more central management features and longer maintenance for old versions.

    Paint.Net

    There is only Photoshop. I don't like that it is this way, but the competition is too far behind to be considered competition in professional environments.

    Media Player Classic

    A small media player which does what it's supposed to do with the least amount of fuss. Thumbs up.

    TrueCrypt

    Is there even commercial competition for TrueCrypt?

    PDFCreator

    Don't know, don't care. I create my PDFs with OpenOffice.

    7-Zip

    One of many free zip tools which basically all do the same.

    ClamWin

    No.

  41. Outlook not in my suite spot by argent · · Score: 1

    Why does a document suite need a mail program? It's not like there's not forty zillion perfectly good mail programs out there, so why should they waste resources creating another one?

    You might as well complain that it doesn't include a flight simulator.

    1. Re:Outlook not in my suite spot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might as well complain that it doesn't include a flight simulator.

      Exel 97 had one, so why not?

    2. Re:Outlook not in my suite spot by argent · · Score: 1

      You win an Easter Egg.

  42. CD Burner XP by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    CD Burner XP: Partly open source (see the link), free, and better than Roxio and Nero, in my opinion.

    1. Re:CD Burner XP by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      InfraRecorder: Fully OpenSource.

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  43. The list, for those who don't care about WINDOWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Ubuntu
    2. Debian
    3. Fedora
    4. Gentoo ...

  44. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So people who keep saying that OpenOffice is better than Microsoft Office are probably only working on documents. In my experience OpenOffice Base is a bug ridden POS and MSO is quite a bit better - not perfect either, but much better - especially with databases and spreadsheets.

  45. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Your commentary is almost entirely without value.

    Let's see, you diss Firefox, then make a lame, go-nowhere comment about Chrome.

    4 of the applications you've either never tried or use so little you have nothing useful to say.

    GIMP is simply way too much application for 90% of the users out there. Great app., but it's got a steep learning curve, just as PhotoShop and CorelDraw do.

    Oh, and I love the comment about OpenOffice: "...who outside of business users really needs a full office suite anymore...". Oh, well then, that solves it. Business users don't matter so we can ignore them completely.

  46. if you're going to do all that by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    you might as well install Linux

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    1. Re:if you're going to do all that by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, that's not an option for those of us condemned to corporate serfdom, so these FOSS-on-Windoze programs are great for keeping us sane.

      I don't know how I'd survive without Vim.exe, for instance.

  47. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Enderandrew · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not to mention that if you're using OpenOffice (like this article suggests you do) then you don't need a separate PDF app. OO.o generates PDFs just fine.

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  48. Paint.Net isn't open source any more by rklrkl · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's really bizarre that the article author included Paint.Net in a list of "best free open source software for Windows", because the source code - as the author himself even admits - is *not* available for free download for any of the recent versions of Paint.Net.

    If that wasn't enough, there's been no new release of Paint.net for almost a year and I'd have thought GIMP (or GIMPShop) was a clearly superior (and fully open source) graphics package on Windows anyway.

    1. Re:Paint.Net isn't open source any more by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

      They don't have to just have the code ready to download, but if a user requests is they have to provide it if it's truely open source

    2. Re:Paint.Net isn't open source any more by sapphire+wyvern · · Score: 1

      It's not GPL; it has been released under a slightly tweaked version of the MIT licence I think. I'm think that's an OSI/FSF approved FOSS licence but I'm not completely certain.

      Here's the detail:
      http://www.getpaint.net/doc/latest/en/License.html

    3. Re:Paint.Net isn't open source any more by creationer · · Score: 1

      I use Paint.Net all the time because it is lightweight and intuitive but it is much more a substitute for Fireworks than Photoshop. It has some big annoyances that prevent it from being useful in many situations. I don't know if there's a technical term for this but if you create a text field and your text happens to go off the screen as you're typing it, then that text is gone and not just hidden and intact like in photoshop.

    4. Re:Paint.Net isn't open source any more by tixxit · · Score: 1
      Licensed under MIT, not GPL. RTFL:

      Copyright (c)

      Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

      The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

      THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

  49. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Teckla · · Score: 1

    No mention of WinSCP? That's criminal!

  50. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know many people who have used OpenOffice and not one of them thinks it holds its own against MS Office. Including myself.

    OO.o will:

    * Export to PDF
    * Import a plethora of formats that MS Office can't open.
    * Export to Open Document Format (MS Office 2007 with SP2 will do this, but previous versions can't)
    * Allow me to easily install and manage extensions
    * Run natively on Mac, Linux and Windows
    * Doesn't cost a penny.

    We pay $400 a pop for MS Office licenses here at work. Novell's Go-oo fork implements better macro support and such which is one of the few complaints I get about vanilla OO.o. So, a free product that implements 99% of the paid product's features, including every feature I've ever needed over the past 20 years, and then does several things that MS Offiice can't do, can't hold its own?

    What is your definition of hold its own?

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  51. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    Outlook needs to be replaced with a full, proper PIM solution. Evolution, Kontact, Thunderbird/Sunbird, etc. all do the chore. OpenOffice can play nice with those apps.

    And again, if most users at home will never use it, why does OOo need it?

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  52. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by killthepoor187 · · Score: 1

    Paint.net instead of the GIMP?
    Epic fail.

  53. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Grishnakh · · Score: 2, Informative

    Celestia - astronomy program, lets you travel around the universe
    Wireshark (as another poster already recommended) - lets you capture network traffic
    FileZilla Server - FTP server
    Cygwin - gives you Linux-like environment
    Marble - 3D globe

  54. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by dzym · · Score: 1

    ClamWin? ClamWin recently false-positived on userinit.exe in the system32 directory. The vetting on this program isn't nearly solid enough for it to be recommended for use on a windows machine, free/Free or not.

    The only place I use ClamAV in is passing over emails on my linux machine.

  55. Enterprise ready winners by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    If we're discussing enterprise ready winners, why not talk about Zimbra and Alfresco?

    The main reason suits don't want to talk about leaving Microsoft or considering FOSS on their desktop is because they are very much tied to Outlook. And right now Sharepoint is Microsoft's new big gun.

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    1. Re:Enterprise ready winners by dave562 · · Score: 1

      Lets talk about Zimbra. I've tried to bring up the following subjects on the Zimbra forum but can't get straight answers. What is disaster recovery on Zimbra like? Does it have single mailbox / single message restore functionality? For example, if dumb user Jane tells me that she deleted the super duper important email that she absolutely needs to have, do I need to restore the entire mail database, or can I go into the most recent backup of Jane's mailbox and restore the single email that she deleted? Is their Blackberry connector 100% complete and bug free yet?

      How does Zimbra handle Public Folders? Last I heard there were some sort of "work arounds" where you had to create special folders, and hack together something that was kind of like public folders but not really.

      How does Zimbra do in multi-site deployments where users are separated by relatively slow WAN links and need to maintain mail databases on separate servers, but share things like Public Folders, Global Address Lists and the like?

      Last but not least, how does Zimbra do with granting shared permissions to mailboxes? For example, the secretary who needs to access portions of her boss' mailbox but not all of it. For example, she needs to be able to accept meeting requests for the boss and create / update contacts, but not see the main inbox.

    2. Re:Enterprise ready winners by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Believe me, I'd love to walk away from Exchange, but as of yet, I have not seen what I consider to be a credible replacement. Since a lot of the data in my organization is highly confidential, services like GMail are right out.

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    3. Re:Enterprise ready winners by nbert · · Score: 1

      What about Communigate? While not exactly free, it seems to be a decent replacement of Exchange. It also works with iCal and Korganizer.

      I'll test it next week for my start-up. Won't even cost us anything since there is a community version which allows up to 5 users.

  56. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by lawpoop · · Score: 1

    With AviSynth, you can write scripts for complex video editing tasks. AviSynth with do mixing on the fly in your video player when you run the script. Very nice; it moves complex video editing from the world of point-and-click GUIs to coding!

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  57. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by gringer · · Score: 2, Informative
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  58. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    What an idiotic post. Outlook is a giant turd of a program, and the only reason I use it is because my stupid employers always require it. For my own email, I use gmail, like millions of other people, and Gmail has a calendar too which works great. As a bonus, it's faster to read email using Gmail (with its servers located who-knows-where), than it is for me to read email using Outlook which is located on my own machine. How'd MS manage to accomplish that?

  59. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I believe you've never heard of Evolution [wikipedia.org] then.

    We try to use Evolution at work to replace Outlook. It is a miserable piece of buggy crap. I am very sorry, but Evolution's Exchange support is not even beta quality.
    I would caution anyone who tries to use it.

  60. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by sitkill · · Score: 1

    Does winscp have a linux version? Serious question (and yes I know this article is about windows, not linux). I liked winscp, but as soon as I started using both ubuntu and winxp/vista machines daily, having a uniform ftp environment was worth more than switching between the two.... I must admit, I didn't find a "winscp" linux version searching through google, and filezilla was there all nice and packaged for both environments. that alone would have given the nod to filezilla...

  61. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BonkEnc is way better than CDex. CDex has this little problem where it will randomly crash itself on certain files when transcoding and it won't directly transcode OGG or FLAC.

  62. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by GF678 · · Score: 1

    Did I mention that it is free?

    That's rather impressive given the fact MS Office is pirated up the wazoo. People at my uni would much prefer pirating MS Office instead of having to spend the time learning OpenOffice. It's free either way.

  63. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Agreed.

    The best part of WinSCP is that you can turn off the retard feature most FTP clients have where they show local files in one pane and remote files in another. Hello, McFly! I don't need a listing of local files, I have WINDOWS EXPLORER OPEN RIGHT NEXT TO THE FTP CLIENT! The retardation of opening your FTP client, then having to navigate to the same window you have open in Explorer just amazes me.

  64. Why bother with Windows... by SimonShine · · Score: 1

    Instead of installing Cygwin, my former flatmate made a bunch of .bat scripts that mimicked ls, cat, etc. to some extent. In my eyes it was a bit silly, but every time I make a switch between Linux and Windows XP, I want to hug XP's graphical interface. I hate X11's paste buffers and its incessantly overconfigurable window management systems. You can call me "raised in the 1990s", but I just find those grey menus comforting. And the damn fakers at the other side of the pond can never get the pixels right in those XP look-alike themes for Metacity. Yours faithfully

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  65. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    Spend the time learning how to use Open Office? Dude, your in the wrong University then. I'm talking about a Community College here and 60% of the students I surveyed managed.

    You do realize the interface is almost the same, the hotkeys are the same, the layout is the same....etc, etc., right?

    With about 5 minutes of reconfiguring, it looks and feels exactly the same as MS Office. Hell, I'm pretty sure you can create MS Office template clones.

    Another thing I forgot to mention in my first post. Of the people I asked in my survey, three of them had a point I had not considered. In many of my classes, students have had to do presentations and MANY used PowerPoint to do so. They also had presentations fail completely because of some stupid problem actually pulling up the presentation IN CLASS, with everyone there and waiting. Those three I mentioned said they have not had a SINGLE experience such as that since they started using the Open Office equivalent of PowerPoint. I think the reason they mentioned it is because they specifically remember the embarrassment of having shit fail in front of a class and instructor while using MS Office and that, so far, Open Office hasn't put them on the spot like that.

    So, it's not just documents these people are using. One of them also mentioned his preference for the spreadsheet app included with OpenOffice, although I personally haven't used it.

  66. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by gregben · · Score: 1

    scp support is built into many Linux distributions, including
    Ubuntu. No installation or searching required.

    From the command line:

    $scp from to

    ex:

    $scp file john@a.place.com:~

    copies file into the home directory of user john
    on host a in the place.com domain.

  67. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by sitkill · · Score: 1

    yup, it works great too ;) But I generally use filezilla when transfering files over since it gives me the option on how it handles conflicts....though scp might a command line for that as well! I was more looking for a standalone product with a nice gui interface heh

  68. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    try fish:// for konquor

  69. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    Whoops, responded to wrong post.

    Intended to respond to GF678 (1453005).

    Sorry.

  70. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    OK, now I'm confusilated.

    Anyone else having /. scrambling the order of posts like I just had it do?

  71. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by RichardJenkins · · Score: 1

    Or through the gui on Ubuntu...

    * Select places menu at the top of the screen
    * Select connect to server
    * Select the 'ssh' service type
    * Type in your details and connect

    You'll get a window where files can be manipulated as you would with your own machine. Locations can be bookmarked/categorised with credentials save as you like (although you should probably be using password protected certificates to authenticate yourself - which Ubuntu will also take care of). WebDav, FTP, Windows shares work the same, out of the box.

    Although to answer his question, WinSCP seems to work great after you install Wine. You might want to try the native SecPanel application which seems similar though. Both can be installed in five clicks, and will be updated as necessary.

    Yet you even suggest that the popular Linux distros are more user friendly in some areas than Windows, and I get looked at like a moron!

  72. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Toonol · · Score: 1

    Media Player Classic is such a lifesaver. It ranks up with Firefox as "immediate install on every machine I touch", just in order to make the pc bearable. Most mediaplayers, commerical (MS & Apple, for instance) or free, have unbearable interfaces. Absolutely unbearable, with irregular window borders, pretend mechanical knobs, bizarre menus structures...

    Thank you, heartfelt, to the team behind MPC.

  73. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by harmonise · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not to mention that if you're using OpenOffice (like this article suggests you do) then you don't need a separate PDF app. OO.o generates PDFs just fine.

    Which is useful if you only create PDFs from OpenOffice and no other program. PDFCreator installs a PDF printer driver. Once installed, any program that can print can make a PDF. That's much more useful.

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  74. dcraw by Anne+Honime · · Score: 1

    Speaking of "gem in the rough", dcraw is an extremely good RAW images to tiff converter. Command line, but there are plenty graphic wrappers for it.

  75. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 5, Informative

    I downloaded PDFCreator to give it a spin, but after learning about the toolbar and reading your post I've deleted it without completing the installation.

    Wikipedia has further [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDFCreator]details[/url]:

    Starting with version 0.9.8, PDFCreator has included a toolbar application, PDFForge Toolbar. Users have reported that this software changes their computer settings. PDFCreator's end-user-license-agreement states that the software will "modify your Microsoft Internet Explorer and/or Mozilla Firefox browser settings for the default search engine, address bar search, "DNS error" page, "404 error" page, and new tab page to facilitate more informative responses as determined by The Toolbar". All instances of "page not found - 404 errors" redirect to a malicious search site. Choosing to not install the toolbar installs it regardless. Some reviewers have termed the toolbar as "malware" and PDFForge has received criticism for including this toolbar with PDFCreator.[8][9][10]

    Writing in May 2009 Steven Avery stated:

    "PDFCreator, formerly a respected open source product, is causing havoc with a malware install toolbar. Amazingly SourceForge hasn't done anything about this yet and still lists the software, and for many their trust level is shaken as well.[10]"

    It has been reported that it is possible to deselect the Browser Addon during installation and that the PDFForge Toolbar can be uninstalled separately.[citation needed]

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  76. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did I mention that it is free?

    They say that, but check back next year to see how many of them have even taken a look at the source code.

  77. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by harmonise · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's a rendering bug. I'm seeing your message as having responded to GF678 (1453005) as expected.

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  78. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by the+phantom · · Score: 2, Insightful

    FileZilla

    Didn't work when I tried it for a simple FTP transfer because of default settings I couldn't figure out how to undo.

    Your own inability to use the program does not imply that it is a horrible program. I am sure that there are many people here that would extol the virtues of vi or emacs, not because either is easy to use, but because they are powerful. Furthermore, complaining that one product sucks, but failing to provide a better alternative is not constructive. It may be true, but it is not helpful. If FileZilla is so horrible, why not provide an example of something that is better?

    VirtualBox

    Never tried it

    Then you are not really qualified to speak about whether or not this product has competition, are you? Perhaps you should have left it out of your reply.

    OpenOffice.Org

    Besides the fact that it is implementing an Office 2007 style ribbon who outside of business users really needs a full office suite anymore?

    Let us, for a moment, accept that only business users need an office suite. Why should they be ignored? They do make up a rather large number of computer users. That being said, you are ignoring a large number of people. Lots of high school and college students use office suites, as do their instructors. Many researchers also use office suites, especially in the social sciences. Authors of all stripes might use office suites. Even grandmothers writing letters to their grandchildren might use an office suite. One might argue that none of these people need to use an office suite, but that doesn't change the fact that they do use an office suite. Thus, you are just plain wrong here.

    Firefox

    Maybe if Opera open sources their browser they can be on this list, not sure if Chrome is really open.

    Opera isn't open, and neither it nor Chrome have the mindshare that Firefox does. As pointed out by the article, Firefox is one of the most visible and most widely adopted pieces of open software in the world, especially when considering the ecosystem of Windows software. This alone seems like a good reason to discuss it in a list of top open source programs on Windows.

    Paint.Net

    What about the GIMP, or is it because this is dead simple to use?

    Bingo. GIMP is a replacement for PhotoShop, whereas Paint.net occupies a niche somewhere between Paint and PhotoShop. It is easier to use than PhotoShop or GIMP, but is still powerful enough to fill most non-professionals' needs. Given that FileZilla was included in the list, it might have made sense to include GIMP as well, but one can also understand why Paint.net was included and GIMP was not.

    Media Player Classic

    My vote goes to VLC here, hands-down.

    As I have not used MPC (though I have used VLC), I can't really comment on this. If you have used both, why not give a reason to use VLC over MPC, rather than just throwing something else out there? The article seems to suggest that MPC was included because of the UI similarities between it and a program that might be familiar to more users who are not used to open source software. Perhaps that is the reason it was included over VLC?

    TrueCrypt

    Never used it.

    Then it is good you didn't comment on it, I suppose.

    PDFCreator

    I only view PDFs so I have never needed creation software, and when I view them I use Sumatra.

    You've never needed, so there must not be a need for it. H

  79. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

    On Windows, Ghostscript and RedMon does the job too. Just a bit more work.

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  80. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Terrorwrist · · Score: 0

    Your forgot CrapCleaner (http://www.ccleaner.com) for cleaning the crap out of your computer. Man, I cleaned 200MB worth of crap, that stinked.

  81. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by jawtheshark · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Last.fm is pretty useless for pretty much everyone on this world.

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  82. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by jonbryce · · Score: 1

    scp is standard issue on must unix / linux systems.

  83. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Hucko · · Score: 1

    This the kind of thing that makes me question... why? Sure MSOffice is great, has nifty features and comes with most business computers; OO.o comes with a substantial number of the features of MSOffice as well as a few of its own, cost effectively. OO.o is great for fixing MSOffice faults, true. But if you are know you doing a document that is larger than a quick semi-informal letter, why the hell are *s/geeks/nerds/technocrats* not using latex, or even just Lyx Kile or whatever? Y'know it puts out professional documents, why don't you use it?

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  84. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by oatworm · · Score: 3, Informative

    At the risk of cross-pollinating Slashdot with Fark memes... THIS!!!

    Though Base is a heck of a lot more usable now than it was in OO.org 2, it still has a long way to go to match Access 2000, much less anything more recent. No ODBC connections to multiple outside databases (at least that I could find), the form builder is still explicitly designed to create the worst-looking forms imaginable, importing into Base databases, especially with larger data sets, is ssssllllloooooowwwww (we're talking 15-30 minutes to import a 60,000 row Excel sheet, something which Access pulls off in well under 5), no multiuser support unless you're willing to host your own SQL server... yeah. It's better than it used to be, mind you - at least it's now obvious that you can actually code macro events against state changes on your forms. That wasn't true in 2.

    Calc is better than it used to be - seriously, Sun went out of their way to clean up the worst of the problems in the upgrade to 3, which I'm very appreciative for. That said, it's still a little flaky on larger data sets that Excel seems to handle a little better. No personal anecdotes of pain on Calc 3, though, which is far more than could be said for Calc 2, so no real complaints.

  85. Best audio editor by Terrorwrist · · Score: 2, Informative

    Audacity is one of the best free audio editors. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

    1. Re:Best audio editor by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, but very few people need an audio editor.

      I was more disappointed that they left out GIMP and VLC.

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  86. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This deceptive install must be fairly recent. the version I have installed on my work machine just works. can't remember the version. maybe mention it to the developers?

  87. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by jonbryce · · Score: 1

    For me it is getting excel to link to external data from web pages. That is one of the 1% of features oocalc doesn't support.

  88. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by jonbryce · · Score: 1

    Is free and open source software only to be used in the home then? Why should it not be used in the office as well?

  89. putty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how about putty :)

  90. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    VirtualBox is clearly in the early stages of becoming a very useful program, but so far it lacks everything that could make it an "enterprise level" application. Let's revisit that classification when it does branched snapshots and virtual machine migration (preferably live)

    No kidding. You can't even easily run guests without being logged in, which makes it next-to-useless for headless vm hosts. It's damned good for desktop virtualization, but if they want me to move over to it, it needs to run guests from a Windows service.

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  91. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by oatworm · · Score: 1

    In fairness, Office 2007 will...

    * Export to PDF and XPS (Beginning in SP2). Also, using beerfree programs like CutePDF and the like, you can simulate OO.org's PDF exporting abilities in any Windows program.
    * Import a plethora of formats that OO.org can't open. Go ahead - import a Microsoft Works file. I dare you.
    * Export to ODF if you install the Sun ODF Plugin. There was an article here fairly recently about MS' native ODF plugin being extremely incompatible with OO.org's implementation of the standard, so I'd avoid that.
    * Also allows you to easily install and manage extensions. In fact, Office made it so easy, it became a rather serious security breach. Office 2007 now requires you to assign a level of trust to your macros and plugins before you install them.
    * Runs natively on... erm... Windows.
    * Doesn't cost a penny if you don't mind violating numerous copyright and trademark laws.

    On the other hand, once you look past Word and Excel and start looking at the rest of the office suite, you quickly find that Draw is a really poor substitute for Visio or Publisher, Base could diplomatically be thought of as a severely watered down version of Access, and what does OO.org use for e-mail? Oh right - it doesn't, which means there's no clean way to apply OO.org macros to e-mail documents.

    Look, OO.org is a nice product. I use it for most things without complaint. For a lot of people, it matches up well enough. That said, don't fool yourself - OO.org isn't a drop in or feature-matched replacement for Office 2000, much less any version after that, unless you're just using the Home & Student version.

    Beats the pants off of Microsoft Works, though. If there's one thing we can be thankful for, it's the OO.org may have single-handedly nuked that abomination from orbit.

  92. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That one times 1000000! So refreshing to find a media player that just *works* without endless pissing around.

  93. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    Didn't MS Office drop Works support?

    Go-oo (which must Linux distros use, and I also use on my Windows boxes) has Works support.

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  94. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    Out of curiosity, have you tried filing a feature request for it?

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  95. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    Well, I did suggest Evolution, Kontact and Thunderbird/Sunbird.

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  96. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you actually read the installer, it gives you instructions so as to not install the toolbar. There is one tickbox on the page with the picture, and one on the next. It's not really "slimy" it's just making sure you know how to read.

  97. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by compro01 · · Score: 1

    andLinux is quite nice as an alternative/addition to cygwin. It's a full Linux distro within Windows. It uses cooperative Linux, which is basically a windows port of the Linux kernel. Unfortunately, it's currently not usable on 64-bit systems, due to driver signing and the fact that 64-bit Linux and Windows don't agree on the size of a long.

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  98. I agree by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

    I have to say that this is a good topic. What are the best open source projects on Windows, well with out a shadow of doubt Open Office would take the cake. My reasons for voting Open Office (OO) as the best.

    OO brings a better office suite into computing, instead of focusing on fancy hidden menu's and limited file type support, OO bring a high, very high quality office bundle. I know many people will disagree with me and I'm ready to hear it but personally I haven't used Microsoft Office in years. Even at school the first thing I do each year is put on Open Office and remove Microsoft Office from my computer. I'm not going to list the inside details on why OO is better because really that will just spark issues, but if I have to stand back and pick the award goes to OO being the better office solution.

    Other amazing Open Source software packages for Windows, well Cygwin. It's a great way to use a real tool chain on Windows with out the over head of Visual Studio. Allowing a user to access the GNU tool chain on a closed source OS is awesome. In fact I have cygwin replace the normal "shell" on windows, although I don't consider command.com a shell.

    Octave a math program which is great when you just don't need Matlab. I'm not saying Matlab sucks, don't get me wrong, it has a place and a use. But when you at home and just want to quickly write a math script Octave is the way to go.

    Apart from that there is no need to mention firefox and truecrypt. These programs speak for them selfs. Thanks
    Murdoch5

  99. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by maxume · · Score: 1

    If I am required to send a file to someone for some work (I have actually done this in the last year, so I'm not even making it up), if there is an issue, I can get away with saying "It must be something with Word", I can't get away with saying "It must be something with the program I am using to edit the file."

    I wish I could, but no, not yet.

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  100. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by fatp · · Score: 1

    I use ghostscript and openoffice.org for all PDF creation tasks. And I think most (if not all) free PDF creation software are based on ghostscript??
    Ghostscript can read Postscript and convert to a huge number of different image formats and printers formats (well, not really needed on windows)

    And some other nominations:
    The GIMP
    cygwin
    Einstein (http://games.flowix.com)

  101. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3740

    It looks like there are several bugs filed for this. They thought they had a working implementation for this for 3.1, but there were still issues.

    This feature should working correctly in 3.2, which ship at the end of November. However, you can likely find development builds before then built from the 3.2 trunk.

    If you're a Linux user, you should find 3.2 SVN builds here starting mid to late August after 3.1.1 ships.

    http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_11.1/

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  102. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a shitty list, I'd much rather use VLC than Media Player Classic, and Inkscape and The Gimp run on a lot more platforms and are a lot more useful than Paint.Net.

  103. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by compro01 · · Score: 1

    How do you figure that? It's released under the MIT license, which is considered free by both the FSF and OSI.

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  104. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by plover · · Score: 1

    If you actually read the installer, it gives you instructions so as to not install the toolbar. There is one tickbox on the page with the picture, and one on the next. It's not really "slimy" it's just making sure you know how to read.

    No, it's really slimy. Malware is malware, regardless of whether or not you agree to it. Fscking with your browser is a behavior of malware. Period.

    If I wanted a browser "helper" I would have Googled for one.

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  105. Addition: by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Forgot to say that CD Burner XP records CDs and DVDs.

  106. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    Word doesn't render exactly the same way all the time, which is precisely why there are programs like Acrobat and In Design.

    Furthermore, people sending Word 2007 documents to Word 2003 users is problematic.

    OO.o doesn't open Word 2007 documents perfectly, but it beats not opening them at all. And I've yet to come across any problems going back and forth with MS Office 2003 and OO.o, which I do daily.

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  107. Re:The list, Missing: J2EE, Netbeans and Glassfish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Missing Professional Web hosting and Enterprise Solution, that kicks MS rear.

    Netbeans: Best, Most Productive, Easiest to use IDE.
    Glassfish: High Performance Next Gen Web Server
    J2EE5 and soon 6: Now EASY to LEARN High Performance Enterprise Solution,
    with these features Out Of The Box:
    - Enterprise JavaBeans
    - Java Persistence API
    - Server Side Components
    - Distributed Objects
    - Asynchronous Messaging
    - Web Services
    - Persistence: Object Relational Mapping with Oracle, MySql and Postgres, among others.
    - Security
    - Resource Pooling
    - Concurrency
    - Transactional Integrity

  108. This will be unpopular but... by bschorr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...Microsoft Office 2007 (and 2010) create PDF files just fine too.

    So does Corel's WordPerfect product.

    (and yes, I do have OpenOffice installed on this machine...I'm just sayin')

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    1. Re:This will be unpopular but... by baker_tony · · Score: 1

      Cool! I just tried it in Word, have to download a small plug in from the save as menu and away ya go! sweeeet.

    2. Re:This will be unpopular but... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Why would you want to install a plugin that only works in certain apps?

      With a generic print-to-PDF driver, you can create a PDF of anything that you can print.

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  109. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by Hucko · · Score: 1

    Thunderbird with Lighting extension? It isn't pretty, but it is effective, for me at least. And I do work in a corporate environment exclusively Outlook/Exchange. (there might needs be a calendar/task_manager extension, it's been a while since I set it up.)
    Here is the portable version that I use.

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  110. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by NovaSupreme · · Score: 1

    Try cutePdf. it's identical to the pdf creator in features, and doesn't come with any BS.

  111. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    May I suggest that you pick the 0.9.7 (or earlier) release - still had the option to add the toolbar, but deselecting it during the install actually worked. Never had any setting changed, toolbars installed, etc.

    pdfCreator is one of the most useful utilities I have ever found. It can print to pdfs (duh) and several image file formats. You can also do document assembly, a feature that OpenOffice.org pdf export can't handle.

    Hope they get the malware issue sorted - won't upgrade until they do. But seriously, give it a try - very much doubt you will delete it.

  112. Author doesn't understand free by mqduck · · Score: 1

    its developers were forced to scale back to a more restrictive Creative Commons License (still freely available, but without source code) after unscrupulous parties decided to rename the original and try to resell it for profit.

    As currently constituted, Paint.net qualifies for only the âoefreeâ part of the FOSS acronym

    And thus the article loses all credibility.

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  113. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by mattb112885 · · Score: 1

    How about ImageJ ? It's a light weight, free, fairly powerful, extensible java-based image editor. I don't know exactly how well it compares to Paint.net in terms of usability and features, but it's worth checking out.

  114. I have to say by pugugly · · Score: 1

    Paint.net versus GIMP? WTF?!?!?

    Sorry, I don't hate Paint.net - but it took me no time at all to go back to Gimp.

    I would recommend SMplayer as a media player as well.

    The other choice seem prettt reasonable though - I never had a problem downchecking the pdf toolbar (I used it - it's actually not bad, I just didn't need it)

    Pug

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  115. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just installed it and it is fine. No toolbar if you deselect it during install. What is your alternative? Adobe acrobat? That thing is 10 times worse.

  116. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by ajlisows · · Score: 1

    To be fair, Windows handles WebDav (Http or Https) and FTP shares right through Windows Explorer in just about the same way (Select "Add Network Location" instead of "Places).

    Although it is pretty lame that a fresh install of Windows Vista or 7 has zero support for SSH or sFTP. Previous version had Hyperterminal which (I believe) could connect with SSH. I can't remember though, I've used PuTTY for such things for a while now.

  117. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by ajlisows · · Score: 1

    Quite a few pieces of malicious software I have seen lately hijacked the userinit.exe file. Not that this excuses a false positive on an uninfected userinit.exe but I think it makes it more understandable. It isn't just randomly detecting things as a virus/malware.

  118. Free OTFE by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

    Personally I have always used Free OTFE rather than Truecrypt.

  119. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Totenglocke · · Score: 1

    If they don't need to edit the file, use OO.org, save it as a pdf, and *bam*, problem solved.

    It's SOP at my company to always send it as a PDF if they don't need to modify it.

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  120. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by dbug78 · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's a checkbox labeled "Set Yahoo! as my default search engine and notify me of changes." Directly below that, in BOLD, it says "IMPORTANT: If you don't want to install the PDFCreator Browser Add On, then please unselect it on the next screen."

    Nobody bothers to read, though, so they uncheck the first box for the search engine change, leave the toolbar enabled, and then bitch and whine about how PDFCreator bundles spyware. I've been using PDFCreator for 5 years now, have installed it on a few dozen computers, and I've never seen it install the toolbar when you opt-out.

    I think we can all agree it sucks that it's even included, optional or not, but that's another issue.

  121. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by Totenglocke · · Score: 1

    I know it's just a troll, but still.....one word - Thunderbird. Amazing email app and it's very customizable.

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  122. The list - "Enterprise grade"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, here's the list from the article:

    FileZilla
    VirtualBox
    OpenOffice.org
    Firefox
    Paint.NET
    Media Player Classic
    TrueCrypt
    PDFCreator
    7zip
    ClamWin

    Now, I won't quibble on the details of whether these applications have value (and they do - I use most of them). But "enterprise grade"? Not even close!

    Enterprise grade needs a handful of things which (as far as I know) none of these packages support:
    * Easy roll-out and maintenance over Active Directory
    * Remote management and configuration tools
    * Any coherent argument association with "enterprise" activities.

    Granted, this is a Windows system we're talking about, but realistically, I'd expect a bit more. Yes, it's all good software. But there are a lot of reasons to not use Firefox (update management control), OpenOffice (compatibility, manageability, update control), ClamWin (no console), and so on in a 'corporate' environment.

    Yes, it's doable, but for all intents and purposes, most of these programs offer a very small subset of their 'enterprise competitors' - albeit, a very strong subset at that.

    And as far as the paint.net vs. GIMP, I say paint.net wins hands down (and I haven't "used" a Windows machine for years) for common web graphics and photo manipulation. GIMP is just a pain - even worse than the awkward Photoshop UI (to those who haven't gone to school to learn it).

  123. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bullshit and the people who modded you up are utter trolls.

    You've already been put in your place by another poster as a bullshit artist. But to top it off you're also a completely nitwit if you're paying 400 for an Office license and not getting at least the Professional Plus version of the software. If you are than you're paying for software that OO can not duplicate under any circumstances. Namely InfoPath and Communicator. If you're not using this software than you're paying twice what you need to pay for Office and it proves yet again you're a moron.

    So either you're lying straight out, you're an idiot paying too much for software or you're using software that OO has not substitute for. Which is it?

    Any of the three you admit to is going to make you look like an ass. Well, at least if people here were honest and not a bunch of zealots. But that's to be expected among a bunch of lemmings who can't understand that if an OS doesn't run my apps it's worthless to me and that if my apps don't support the functionality I need that it's nothing but worthless hard drive filler.

    I've used both of these products and MSO is the hands down winner. OO is fine for mom and pop usage but it doesn't stand up to the big boys.

    Stop acting like the kinds of assholes around here who think that MySQL is the same as DB2 or that GIMP is just as good as Photoshop.

  124. NVDA screen reader... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This program is great! It is listed as still being alpha, but it works so much better than the craptastic narrator that comes with Windows. It is fast, light-weight, and customizable.

  125. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by LifesRoadie · · Score: 1

    GIMP 2.0, and another vote for VLC

  126. VLC and Pandora by tepples · · Score: 1

    VLC media player

    InfoWorld is based in California. VLC media player includes patented codecs not licensed for distribution in California or elsewhere in the United States.

    OpenPandora to put Pandora on your desktop and scrobble to Last.fm

    Too easy to confuse with a forthcoming Linux PDA.

  127. Or InfraRecorder by tepples · · Score: 1

    Unlike CD Burner XP, InfraRecorder is GPL.

  128. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by lawpoop · · Score: 3, Informative

    As I explained in my post, I unticked the 'install toolbar' option, yet I still got a toolbar. Slimy.

    On top of that, I got a URL re-director that was *not* mentioned in the install, and didn't go away once I uninstalled the toolbar plug-in in firefox. I had to uninstall the whole application to get rid of the re-director. That is slime on top of slime.

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  129. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how does it feel to be proven wrong?

  130. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by lawpoop · · Score: 1

    OK, that's fine; I'll take your word for it. I read it too fast and 'chose' to install the toolbar.

    What's more worrysome is the URL re-director that was installed, that was not mentioned in the installer, and did not go away when I disabled the toolbar plug-in in Firefox. I had to uninstall PDFCreator altogether to get rid of the stealth re-director.

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  131. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by bpgslashdotaccount · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's GPL. Guess it's time to fork.

  132. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Wrong. The reason you got it despite your supposed telling it not to install is because you can't fucking read instructions.

    The first page mentioning Yahoo has a checkbox that controls only setting Yahoo as the default search engine. I'm betting that you unchecked that checkbox incorrectly thinking you opted out of the toolbar. Although the page describes the toolbar, unchecking that box does not stop the installing of the toolbar as the installer clearly highlights: IMPORTANT:If you don't want to install the PDFCreator Browser Add On, then please unselect it on the next screen.

    On the component selection screen you then need to deselect "PDFCreator Browser Add On for Internet Explorer and Firefox." in order to actually bypass the toolbar.

    Your inability to read and follow instructions (like a few others that suffer from the same lack of reading comprehension skills) is not the fault of PDFCreator. Try again.

  133. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by tepples · · Score: 1

    So, a free product that implements 99% of the paid product's features, including every feature I've ever needed over the past 20 years, and then does several things that MS Offiice can't do, can't hold its own?

    Can it run commercial off-the-shelf accounting and inventory management software written in VBA for Access 2003 and 2007? If not, then my employer is one of the 1%.

  134. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    The Go-oo fork runs Excel VBA macros. I don't know about Access.

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  135. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by wasabioss · · Score: 1
    • Notepad++: The Text editor. You can't deny this program is fantastic.
    • Google Chrome: The browser.
    • CCCP (Combined Community Codec Pack): The Video codecs.
    • PuTTY: The Terminal Client.
    • TortoiseSVN: The SVN Client.
    • Synergy: The Multi-mouse/kb solution.

    That- that's about it.

  136. Every Windows User? by brit74 · · Score: 1

    "Every Windows user should consider making these utilities part of their standard applications" ... the very first application they list is "Filezilla". Um, what? Why should every Windows user make Filezilla part of their standard applications?

    1. Re:Every Windows User? by Slashcrap · · Score: 1

      Um, what? Why should every Windows user make Filezilla part of their standard applications?

      Filezilla is perfect for all your refreshing both local and remote listings at the same time even though you only wanted to refresh one of them needs. Additionally if you want to apply FTP style local/remote time difference calculations to SFTP even though there's no need to do them, Filezilla is there for you.

      Maybe they just want to store all their passwords in plaintext? Or they enjoy watching auto-updaters fail to auto-update?

      Whatever the reason, no-one can deny that Filezilla truly is the poster boy for open source applications. It should be installed on every Windows machine. At the very least it will help distract them from their other problems.

  137. CutePDF is better then by tanveer1979 · · Score: 1

    No spyware and bloatware too, and no yahoo toolbars installed

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    1. Re:CutePDF is better then by daw1234 · · Score: 1

      Having used CutePDF for years I installed it on a friends computer the other day and it too now asks if you want some crappy toolbar!

  138. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    Yeah, but Open Office is free...I did mention that, didn't I?

  139. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by cbhacking · · Score: 2, Informative

    For the record, anybody with a .edu email address can get Office 2007 Ultimate for $60 (less than the cost in the MS company store, in fact).

    http://theultimatesteal.com/

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  140. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is WinSCP better than FileZilla?

  141. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    Borked cache?

    I restarted Firefox and it fixed it. Did the latest patch introduce something oozing and nasty?

  142. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anachragnome · · Score: 1

    But Open Office is free...that means it cost $0.

    I think that is significantly less then $60.

  143. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by cbhacking · · Score: 1

    Funny you mention extensions. With a couple of nice extensions that MS actually links me to directly, Office will

    * Export to PDF (originally it was built in, but Adobe threw a hissy-fit over it)
    * Import a plethora of formats (seriously, what does OO.o open that MS Office doesn't anyhow?)
    * Export (and import/edit/convert) ODF, and I was doing it with the Office 2007 beta, RTM, and SP1
    * Allow me to easily install and manage extensions (out of the box)

    Admittedly, it doesn't run natively on Linux. Wine will get there soon enough, but you're nonetheless correct.
    Students can get a copy of MS Office 2007 Ultimate for $60, which includes a lot of stuff that OO.o doesn't even *try* to copy. http://theultimatesteal.com/ No, I'm not affiliated with the site, but a lot of folks have found it very useful.

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  144. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    I'm a big OO.org fan, but Base is pure crap. I still use MS-Access on occasion for query prototyping (it's query builder is significantly more polished than Base's), or in some cases for running unified queries on multiple, often quite heterogeneous data sets.

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  145. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "modify your Microsoft Internet Explorer and/or Mozilla Firefox browser settings for the default search engine, address bar search, "DNS error" page, "404 error" page, and new tab page to facilitate more informative responses as determined by The Toolbar"

    I love how The Toolbar is anthropomorphized here. "The Toolbar will determine what is best for your computer and for you. The Toolbar is all-knowing. The Toolbar is goodness and light. You love The Toolbar."

  146. AutoHotKey and AutoIt are a necessity. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    AutoHotkey is a necessity. Open Source, free, but unfortunately no Linux version. Automates keystrokes. Very professionally maintained. The programming language is quirky.

    AutoIt makes programs that do automatic installations for examples.

    Both can imitate keystrokes and mouse movements.

    1. Re:AutoHotKey and AutoIt are a necessity. by Exception+Duck · · Score: 1

      Slickrun (probably something similar of the above) changed the way I use my computer.

      http://www.bayden.com/SlickRun/

      hmm... but that's not open source, so please don't read my post.
      Still free though.

    2. Re:AutoHotKey and AutoIt are a necessity. by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I found AutoHotKey once when I needed to write a macro (used to have some Recorder program that did this, but it was long gone when I needed it), and it was a bit of a lifesaver – but I haven't used it in ages. Do you actually use it on a regular basis, and what for?

      As a side note, the automation that I used AutoHotKeys for was more easily solved by writing an application in PHP that did exactly what I needed and was incredibly easy to use. (I was creating cropped & scaled-down versions from a bunch of pictures.) When it comes to cropping pictures, it doesn't get much easier than click, drag, double-click.

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  147. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can turn that off in filezilla.

    Also, it makes it handy to automatically jump to a particular folder when connecting to a particular server.

    And yes, Filezilla supports drag and drop from explorer.

  148. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 1

    Yes, but I can not use OO.o for everything. Being able to print from any application to PDF is very useful.

  149. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by rtb61 · · Score: 1

    The only thing I would add to that list is redefining the title "The best free open source software for Windows and beyond . To really rate as the best they have to work on multiple platforms, so not just windows but also Linux, Mac etc.

    I know it might be stretching it a bit but, if your rating the 'best', multi platform support really does extend the usefulness of the program.

    For a tech site, what happened to incorporating at least one software language, Ruby.

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  150. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by sproot · · Score: 1

    It runs headless guests just fine on Linux using the CLI, wtf would you run VMs on Windows hosts?
    I thought the point of VMs was so that you could keep Windows off hardware.

  151. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

    Alas, MS hasn't stopped updating their bag of tricks to keep people using Outlook.

    The latest trick seems to be provide external access to Exchange via XMLRPC calls, tunnelled through something called Intelligent Application Gateway, which they bought from an Israeli security company. This is essentially the same way that Outlook Web Access works ; Outlook now uses the same mechanism when outside the office network.

    Of course, this kills any incentive for your sysadmins to configure the IMAP server, which makes using most other email clients basically impossible. Our mail service migrated from an IMAP server to this recently and I've reluctantly stopped using Thunderbird, even though the IMAP ports are available inside the office, because it's just too irritating to have to manage two email clients.

    IAG clients are only supported on Windows, your options for a rich client are limited to Outlook, on Windows. The only other option outside the office is Outlook Web Access.

  152. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Me

    I have used it exclusively for years, in an environment where I am constantly working with MS Office files, and I have no complaints.

  153. Re:Open Office - Just lacks Outlook, that's all by jimicus · · Score: 1

    That works OK at home and in some corporate environments but in a lot it doesn't.

    I've been spending the last two weeks trying to migrate a bunch of sales people off Exchange and the reason Outlook/Exchange is so popular and migrating anyone off of either is twofold:

    • There are few serious F/OSS competitors. By the time you've eliminated all the ones that have serious issues (and believe me, most do), there are even fewer.
    • The migration path recommended tends to sit somewhere between "mildly absurd" (ask all your users to configure Outlook to connect to both systems simultaneously, drag & drop their old email - and there may be thousands of old emails - then export all their contacts, calendar appointments and tasks and re-import them) to "downright ludicrous" (sync emails via imap, don't bother with contacts or calendar appointments).

    Why is this migration path silly? Simple. For a lot of people that the business really cares about (eg. the sales team - don't dismiss them, without them the company wouldn't be able to pay your wages), email stopped being plain email the day they first used something as sophisticated as Outlook. These people live and die by their contacts list and appointments - they're often more important than old email and without them your sales team may as well pack it all in and go and re-train as plumbers because they sure as hell won't be doing much more selling. Experienced sales people in a particular industry could easily have a few thousand contacts in that address book, and they will make an effort to speak to all of them at least once a year.

    These people don't want to migrate their own contacts and address book, they're too busy selling products. And frequently they aren't IT experts so the likelihood of them making an innocent mistake (remember: one mistake at this stage and they've lost that oh-so-important contact list) is moderately high. A smart salesman knows this full well, and isn't about to jeopardise his contact list for anyone. There's no way he'll move it without some serious handholding.

  154. Wubi ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I miss wubi in the list, the thing that let you install ubuntu inside windows.

  155. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is not a retarded feature, this is for those people who aren't so retarded that they open the window in windows explorer first and then start their FTP program.

  156. Best free open source software for Windows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've heard of a software called "Linux" or so - it probably is a very large Service Pack or something, as it seems to update, rename and restructure EVERY single file of Windows, and I have heard it solves most all of Windows problems at once!!!11eleven

    This must almost be perfect - only bug I noticed is, defragmentation utility seems to be gone. Maybe they'll fix that in the next release. ;-)

  157. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    Crimson Editor

    Good text editors for Windows are hard to find. I was looking for these features:

    # White text on black background
    # Syntax highlighting
    # Tabs
    # Spell checker (preferably a smart one which ignores HTML tags, keywords etc)
    # Small and fast
    # Hard word wrapping
    # Preferably open source / free

    CE is the only one I have found so far that meets those requirements. I checked JuffEd (no white on black), Metapad (no syntax highlighting), Notepad++ (spell checker is not realtime), Notetab Free, Programmers File Editor (pretty basic), Programmers Notepad (no spell checker). PSPad, RJ TextEd (good but slow), ConTEXT (no spell checker), gEdit (pretty good, a bit large due to being a Unix port, most plug-ins don't work on Windows), jEdit (Java based, need I say more?) and a few more, but none of the met the requirements.

    Miranda IM (instant messaging client)
    Hyrdra IRC (IRC client)
    Cadsoft EAGLE (schematic and PCB layout)

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  158. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it is better, but who cares? OpenOffice satisfies my humble needs. Why should I throw my money away?

  159. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since it's open source, can't someone just create a fork that isn't slimy?

  160. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by z_gringo · · Score: 1

    I've seen people use it here for hours and not even realize they weren't using Excel or word.

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  161. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bah - andLinux if you must but really Cygwin.

    If I must have Linux on my desktop then VirtualBox.

  162. Unmitigated by pedestrian+crossing · · Score: 1

    Audacity - audio editing

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  163. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Java based, need I say more

    Well yes. Which of the requirements did is miss?

  164. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by imakemusic · · Score: 2, Informative

    I installed it yesterday as well. I didn't have a yahoo toolbar installed though I would point out that opting out of this is a little confusing. Liek the installer says, you have to deselect it on the NEXT screen. It's quite cunning.

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  165. Paint.net is not Free, as in the FOSS acronym by vivaoporto · · Score: 1
    From TFA, emphasis mine:

    Paint.net [20] has a checkered past as a free open source solution. Originally released as a completely open source project, its developers were forced to scale back to a more restrictive Creative Commons License (still freely available, but without source code) after unscrupulous parties decided to rename the original and try to resell it for profit. As currently constituted, Paint.net qualifies for only the "free" part of the FOSS acronym, which is a shame since the program itself is a hidden gem.

    Paint.net is not Free, as in the FOSS acronym. It may be free as in beer, but not as in speech. That mistake, and including Paint.net instead of GIMP demonstrates the lack of understanding the author have about the FOSS movement and achievements.

    1. Re:Paint.net is not Free, as in the FOSS acronym by clintp · · Score: 1

      I'll give you that the author may be mistaken for linking Paint.Net with FOSS.

      But for some of us "free-as-in-beer" is still free, it works, and for what it does it does well. In my experience GIMP for Windows doesn't belong on any /Best.*Free.*Software/ list; it speaks more to GIMP's serious stability and annoying UI problems and lack of competition in the "free graphics editing" market.

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  166. The Unfortunate Reality of Office by damn_registrars · · Score: 1
    While I am one of many who would love to see OpenOffice unseat MS Office, that just simply isn't realistic right now. It isn't because MS Office is a better product; we know that is not true.

    It is because MS Office is the office for many Windows and Mac users. I know of people who are educated enough to know better will go and put down their own hard earned money to buy MS Office, even if they have heard of OpenOffice. I have a colleague who despises the interface of the new MS Office yet uses it every day, absolutely refusing to even consider installing OpenOffice on her laptop.

    In short:
    • Cost is not the issue
    • File compatibility isn't the issue
    • Application function isn't the issue
    • The interface isn't the issue

    The issue is getting people to believe that OpenOffice is worthy of trying. If you know how to accomplish that on a large scale I'm probably not the only person who would love to hear it.

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    1. Re:The Unfortunate Reality of Office by gonzonista · · Score: 1

      I think that file compatibility is the issue. I am the de-facto IT guy for an office of a dozen people. Because our CEO and administrator are err....not so tech savvy, I need to have reliable software that is compatible with what every other office is using. The amount of time spent fussing on file incompabilities and quirks is not worth the money saved from going with Open Office.

      This is a bit like speaking English. English is a pretty horrible language to be conducting business in because it is full of exceptions, vagueness and ambiguity. However, much of the world speaks it so it has become the de-facto business language. It's not the best language to use but because it is so widespread, it is the easiest language to use.

      OpenOffice might gain more users over time but it will be a slow process. If its going to go anywhere, it needs to start with techies becoming management and driving its use. Sorry to be the one to tell you that.

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    2. Re:The Unfortunate Reality of Office by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      I think that file compatibility is the issue

      I disagree with file compatibility being the core issue hindering adoption of OpenOffice. If file compatibility were a significant issue that users cared about, then nobody would have purchased the newest version of MSOffice, as it defaults to saving in a file format that doesn't work with previous versions of MSOffice (or anything else on the planet for that matter).

      Indeed the most compatible version of MSOffice is arguable the one that came out in 1995; the staggered PC/Mac releases every year since have made file incompatibility almost a hallmark of new releases of MSOffice.

      Can my wife's mac read my PC MSOffice file?
      Well, maybe... who has the newer version of Office again?
      Oh shit, I don't remember, I'd better do save as and save as an older format just in case.

      However the new .docx, .pptx, etc having kicked incompatibility up a notch. Suddenly half the world is now using "the wrong version" of MSOffice and needs to shell out hundreds of dollars to upgrade to read the new file formats.

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    3. Re:The Unfortunate Reality of Office by gonzonista · · Score: 1

      Maybe we're talking about different things. I would not be able to implement OpenOffice in our environment because of the fear of application (and consequently file) incompabilities. We had an issue with a pdf rendering on a Mac that threw off the page numbering of a legal document. There's no way I'd be able to get off MS after that one.

      Without a buy-in from the top, I've got to be able to defend every one of those glitches if I go with OpenOffice. That is not worth my time.

      As mentioned earlier, adoption away from MS Office requires a directive from upper management. If you don't have that support, you'll be replaced when a file or application incompatibility delays a project enough to miss a deadline. If you want OpenOffice to be used, you'll need to join the upper management ranks so you can call the shots. It won't happen on its own.

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  167. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by packman · · Score: 1

    VirtualBox still has a long way to go... Totally unreliable in production or even development environments. It corrupts images on regular bases, crashes without any indication why, and on windows, the drivers are a total mess, bluescreening the entire os on regular bases (yes - also the latest versions). Not to mention the horror a version upgrade is, chances are that you have to uninstall everything again, reboot a few times, manually remove some files and re-install the latest version. WIth some luck, it then works. I gave up on it, and just installed VMWare server - which can be downloaded free of charge to use in the development environment. Is rocksolid and runs without a glitch...

    And while it's true that Photoshop has no competition in most area's, Gimp does have a few area's where it can seriously compete with it, after all - most users only use 20% of Photoshop... Too bad Gimp decided to be a Photoshop competitor on "bad user-interface"-level too...

  168. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by daw1234 · · Score: 1

    I think they closed the source on the artwork and maybe some of the interface due to people recompiling with added malware then charging $$$ for it. Could be wrong.

  169. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Those instructions are clearly designed to mislead and confuse. How are you supposed to realise the "PDFCreater Browser add-on" is in fact a yahoo toolbar and 404 redirector? If I was installing some software called PDF creator that creates PDFs and part of it was called "PDFCreater Browser add-on" i'd assume it was some kind of necessary component to enable the creation of PDF files. Especially since just before you get the option to not install it, there is a nice piece of decoy hand-waving about opting out of some yahoo related bullshit to distract your attention away from the innocuously labelled real malware payload.

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  170. How to beat Linux. Move FOSS to Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just one tactic in the Microsoft toolbox. Pretend to love open source, help developers to port their products to Windows, leaving Linux sitting all alone as users see no reason to go there. As Linux recedes into the distance. Victory for Microsoft. The users will be left paying the Microsoft tax just to user their favourite 'free' software.

    This post is just one more PR exercise to help Microsoft achieve that goal.

    Free software developers who make Windows their primary development environment aren't free software developers.

  171. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by cyanidecircuitry · · Score: 1

    I agree with your nomination of The GIMP. I can't believe Paint.NET was included instead. The GIMP is far more functional and easier to use - and it's actually open source.
    Good call on cygwin too - the saviour of my sanity at work!

  172. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Cormacus · · Score: 1

    +1 Agree

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  173. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah. FileZilla, why don't you make like a tree and get the hell out of here.

  174. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by corychristison · · Score: 1

    I truly pity anyone who really thinks FileZilla is the best FTP client out there. Why don't more people worship The Perfection That Is WinSCP? :(

    People still use FTP and/or SCP?
    SSHFS FTW!

  175. Ubuntu installer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No need for anything else, they will be installed by default.

  176. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by InfiniteLoopCounter · · Score: 1

    I'm not the GP poster, but I'd like to answer one of your questions.

    seriously, what does OO.o open that MS Office doesn't anyhow?

    PDF's (after install of an addon). I've found Open Office can import general de-linearized PDF's very well for editing (PDF files that are linearized can be delinearized with pdfedit). But keep this knowledge under your hat so that there's no need for anyone to create an even worse read-only document format ;)

  177. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

    99.999% of the time you're already working on the files you're planning to upload, which means the explorer window is already open. Or, at least, that the files are already available in some other easily-accessed drag&droppable location, like a Visual Studio project window.

  178. Democracy for dictatorships by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you really think that the best place for open source is on a closed source operating system then what you probably are looking for is free (as in money) software. You certainly have no idea about freedom.

    You might just as well set up The Institute for Freedom and Democracy in an office in Saudi Arabia.

  179. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by maxume · · Score: 1

    Yes, the difference in interoperability is not the issue, the difference in attitude at the receiving end is the issue (and not worth my time to fight...).

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  180. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For VLC, you don't have to download codecs.

  181. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by capnchicken · · Score: 0

    He removed the source completely from the download page now, I think you might still be able to ask him for it. But like they said in the forums, for the most part it was a single developer who made the source available.

    http://www.getpaint.net/download.html#src

    http://paintdotnet.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=30838&p=274324

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  182. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for the heads up. This is the PDF software my work uses, now I reckon we'll be on the hunt for something new.

  183. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

    My top complaints about ooBase.

    - No built-in ability to export to .CSV files. Seriously. This is 2009, other database applications have had the ability to send data straight to CSV for over 25 years.

    - As you mentioned, MSAccess is simply so much more powerful when dealing with data from multiple sources.

    - The ooBase file format is a compressed ZIP file. I suspect that it breaks horribly once you get over a few hundred MB worth of data together. (Something that MSAccess handles easily.) But since it's so difficult to get data in/out of it, I haven't bothered trying. It can't be used as a read/write ODBC data source.

    - We're using an Access database as backend storage for our data collection project written in Java (that doesn't need a full blown database server). Because it's simply easier to check an MDB into our version control system then to deal with a lot of the other tools. We don't need the hassle of a server that we'd have to startup/shutdown (although SQLLite came close). Plus we can open up the MDB in MSAccess and get instant access to the data using a very well designed GUI (which you can't do in SQLLite). Or copy/paste data from other sources (like spreadsheets). Or make quick fixes to the data table layout.

    So, it's better, but only if you're looking to do nothing more then track your grocery list.

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  184. XBOX Media Center by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't believe no one has mentioned XBOX media Center. http://xbmc.org/

    FOSS media player, with codecs etc. for Mac, Linux, Windows, and, of course, XBOX. In my opinion, far better than VLC or MPC.

  185. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by oatworm · · Score: 1

    MS Office doesn't have built-in Works support, but you can download a beerfree plugin from MS' download page.

    I'll have to try Go-oo out; my attempts at importing Works docs using OO.org 3 didn't go anywhere, so I didn't really dig around much further than that.

  186. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by the+phantom · · Score: 1

    The article implied that this was also the case with MPC. Is this not true?

  187. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't more people worship The Perfection That Is WinSCP

    WinSCP is hardly perfection. I manage a bunch of websites where I am always having to juggle around a lot of jpeg images between different directories on different servers. I absolutely have to have realtime thumbnail views of images on the server I am connecting to. WinSCP absolutely does not do this. Neither does any other free FTP client. Most pay FTP clients don't have this simple feature! CuteFTP (which I pay for) is the only FTP client that I know of that does this.

    So although WinSCP is pretty good, it is hardly "perfection."

  188. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    Scilab numerical algebra system
    unxutils native ports of some unix utilities to Win32
    speedcrunch calculator
    vim better than emacs
    Sumatra PDF fast clean pdf viewer

  189. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Calibre is awful. It crashes whenever you try to import a large library of books, it creates duplicates of all your files and imposes its own directory structure, and the interface is ugly. It's about two years too early to use a product like this for real e-book collections.

  190. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know if you're intentionally trolling, or genuinely ignorant, but if tell the program not to give you the yahoo toolbar, it doesn't give you the toolbar. Machines don't do things you don't tell them to do. Don't be a stupid user.

    Anyway, perhaps you are confused on the menu. *uncheck* the box if you don't want the toolbar, check it if you do(it's checked by default, ugh)

    I've enjoyed it for accomplishing the same task without requiring 100mb of space, like acrobat.

    edit: Oh my god. there's a bunch of replies to you that don't understand the checkbox thing either. I just installed it and installed it a few times. No toolbar. What is wrong with you people?

  191. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 1

    The freeware but not open source CutePDF meets all of my needs to print documents to PDF from anything (not a PDF editor, but as I don't publish docs I don't care to create a native PDF). That might hold you over if your needs are light.

  192. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    Paint.Net

    What about the GIMP, or is it because this is dead simple to use?

    Media Player Classic

    My vote goes to VLC here, hands-down.

    This!

    How the freaking hell did Paint.Net and MPC beat out GIMP and VLC?!

    Also, I too recommend CutePDF. It's admittedly not as powerful as PDFCreator, but it gets the job done. I use it for pretty much anything that says "Print this page for your records". Dated, appropriately described PDF goes into my archive folder in case I need it later. Eventually it'll get deleted, and I don't have to waste paper (or go digging through stacks of printouts). One nice thing that PDFCreator can do that CutePDF doesn't is combine documents (print one, tell it to wait, print something(s) else, then select the documents in the print queue and concatenate them before resuming the printing).

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  193. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    I have MPC, VLC, and SMPlayer Portable installed on a portable hard drive.

    Of the three, VLC is my favourite hands-down.

    SMPlayer's redeeming quality is that it can be configured to run incredibly fast on old equipment. I need a new computer... AVI movies run like slideshows if they play at all. SMPlayer actually manages to play them without stuttering too much (unfortunately action sequences still tend to cause the picture to halt, sometimes I have to rewind a few seconds or pause it for a moment to let the decoder catch up).

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  194. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Paint.Net is not FOSS.

  195. OpenDisc by Taxman415a · · Score: 1

    I can't believe no one has mentioned the OpenDisc project, which is the succesor to the OpenCD. It's a project designed to collect the highest quality open source software on a disc. There's even an education version.

  196. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    I'd suggest you also look at jarnal – a free java-based PDF annotation tool.

    It's a bit kludgy, but once you know its two main idiosyncrasies it gets the job done:

    • get rid of the lined paper background: Format - Paper and Background (change from lined to plain)
    • Open the PDF to annotate: File - Open Background (oddly you can't just "open" a PDF, you must open it as a background)
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  197. GnuCash by BlindSpot · · Score: 1

    IMO no list of Windows FOSS would be complete without GnuCash, the accouting software. I first used it on Linux a few years ago to track spending when I started living on my own. Now, as a contract programmer, I use it on Windows to maintain my corporation's books. Not only is it a mature, feature-rich piece of software, but the dev team gives due attention to the Windows-specific issues, rather than treating the Windows port as a hands off "you're on your own" thing like some other projects from the Linux world.

  198. Metapad editor is now open source. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Metapad editor is now open source. All other quick editors are worse, in my experience.

    1. Re:Metapad editor is now open source. by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      One thing that really impressed me about Metapad is how much faster its Search/Replace works than Notepad's does.

      In a moderately large text file, Notepad takes forever to do a "replace all". Metapad does it fast.

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    2. Re:Metapad editor is now open source. by digitalunity · · Score: 1

      If you're talking about Windows Notepad, you're right. It's quite mediocre at just about everything you would use it for.

      Lack of support for tabbed or MDI editing, lack of support for Unix style line feeds, extremely slow loading of large files. These are just a few reasons to not use Notepad.

      It is a Qt based editor that supports syntax highlighting for a gazillion web and programming formats, functions for conversion, analysis, even generating morse code(lol?), has several color palettes including green on black(my fav).

      An easy argument could be made that it has suffered some feature creep, but it remains easy to use regardless.

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    3. Re:Metapad editor is now open source. by digitalunity · · Score: 1

      Sorry, forgot to mention the name of the program. it's called "tea".

      http://tea-editor.sourceforge.net/downloads.html

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  199. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To be honest, I would rather use Paint.net than the GIMP when running Windows myself. I'm just not too crazy about the interface. But given that the list is supposed to be open source software only, and Paint.net no longer is, then yeah... the GIMP probably should have made it in... new versions of Paint.net are pretty much just freeware.

  200. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Lennie · · Score: 1

    Also as ClamWin as no on-access scanning, I wouldn't recommend it to your average Windows luserrs. I think their was an opensource on-access scanner for Windows which uses clamav-virus-information, but don't remember the name. But the clamav-virus-information isn't as good for desktop-machines as most other offerings. It's however prettty good for mailservers. I'd recommend to any mailserver admin.

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  201. Sample Autohotkey configuration: by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1
    "Do you actually use it on a regular basis, and what for?"

    AutoHotkey has its own folding editor: SciTE4AutoHotkey. The file must have an .AHK extension to show syntax highlighting. So, when editing Autohotkey's automatically loaded configuration file, an .INI file, temporarily change the file name extension from .INI to .AHK.

    AutoHotkey's programmer, Chris Mallett, is impressively serious about delivering high-quality code. He is joined by several people who do thorough testing. For example, here is a problem with doing RegEx replacements in Chinese: BUG RegexReplace -- When disposing chinese.

    The science of user interface design is still in its infancy. AutoHotkey makes things easier by helping you re-define the interface. For example, Firefox's bookmarking is primitive, so I use Autohotkey to make it more usable for me.

    Here are a few simple examples from my AutoHotkey .INI file, which is 1607 lines long. Lines that begin with a semi-colon are comments:

    ;
    ; AutoHotkey.ini AutoHotkey script, starts automatically.
    ;
    ; # Win (Windows Key)
    ; ! Alt
    ; ^ Control
    ; + Shift
    ; & An ampersand may be used between any two keys or mouse buttons
    ; to combine them into a custom hotkey. See Help for details.
    ; < Use the left key of the pair.
    ; e.g. <!a is the same as !a except that only the left Alt key
    ; will trigger it.
    ; This feature is not supported on Windows 95/98/ME.
    ; > Use the right key of the pair.
    ; This feature is not supported on Windows 95/98/ME.
    ;
    ; Send command keys:
    ; In a hotkey definition, ^K is control-k, lower case, and ^+K is control-K,
    upper case.
    ; As a parameter of the Send command, however, ^k is control-k, lower case,
    and ^K is control-K, upper case.
    ;
    ; Keyboard shortcuts available in Windows XP:
    ; (Don't re-define Windows XP keyboard shortcuts.)
    ; http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301583
    ;
    ; __________
    ;
    ;
    ; The examples below are activated with Control-Shift:
    ;
    ;
    ; HTML Italics
    ; Type the characters <I>""</I> and then position the cursor left 5 characters.
    ; See below for HTML Link characters.
    ^+I::Sendinput, <I>""</I>{Left 5}
    ;
    ;
    ; Run the "Change Case" program
    ^+K::Run "C:\Program Files\ChangeCase\ChngCase.exe"
    ;
    ;
    ; HTML Link
    ^+L::Sendinput, <A HREF= "" TARGET="_blank" ></A>{Left 23}
    ;
    ;
    ; Run the Michaelis Portuguese Dictionary
    ^+M::Run "C:\DTS\WDIC\WDIC.EXE"
    ;
    ;

  202. Metapad is fast for everything. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Metapad is fast for everything, in my experience.

    I like Metapad's Edit/ Block/ Unwrap Lines/ command. I like "Hit Escape to quit."

  203. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

    I personally use some Norton Commander clone which has got FTP already inside it. Way faster and more comfortable than Explorer, so I don't understand the GP rant either.

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  204. MozBackup for Firefox and Thunderbird backups by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Mozilla Backup, MozBackup is very important free open-source software.

    Backup your Firefox settings and add-ons, and restore them to another computer.

  205. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Toonol · · Score: 1

    I have VLC, also, and it's a good piece of software. Seems to have a little better support for a variety of media.

    But I still like MPC's controls a little better. VLC has some weird interface decisions... keys don't do what you'd expect, and so on. Good, but it's still my 'backup' player if MPC doesn't cut it for some reason.

  206. The painful death of the once great? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yahoo and PDFCreator, dying together? Rest in peace, Yahoo.

  207. Why Truecrypt on a server? Privacy / Theft by billstewart · · Score: 1

    The reason for an encrypted disk is that somebody may walk off with your computer and want to access your data. Sure, it's more likely that somebody will walk off with a laptop you carry around than a server that's wired in to things, but you never know. Maybe they've got a warrant or a subpoena, maybe they're just thieves, maybe they're competitors trying to scoop your new project. I've had equipment stolen out of big corporate offices before. If it's unnecessary paranoia, fine, it's unnecessary paranoia.

    Also, CPU cycles are only expensive if you don't have enough of them. Depending on whether your server is just a file and print server or also a mail server with spam prevention software, you may have cycles to burn or you may not.

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  208. Can you run paint.net in Wine / VMWare / Xen? by billstewart · · Score: 1

    I assume you can run paint.net on a Virtual Machine Windows environment - does it also run in Wine, which would be a bit lighter weight interface with the rest of your Linux environment?

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  209. Re:putty ssh tool? Definitely a total win by billstewart · · Score: 1

    I spend a large fraction of my work day with a couple of putty ssh sessions open to various boxes. It's pretty much indispensable.

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  210. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yah, True dat.

  211. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by IpalindromeI · · Score: 1

    I tried to convince my wife to write her master's thesis using LateX, but she decided that spending a couple weeks learning something new wasn't worth it. She was very sorry at the end of the process when she spent over a month doing nothing but fighting Word's formatting glitches that show up in huge documents.

    I didn't press harder in the beginning because I don't have LateX experience either, so I didn't feel confident that I'd be able to find satisfactory answers to questions she might have. Honestly, it seems pretty overwhelming getting started.

    Does anyone have a low-learning-curve, take-your-time method for learning LateX?

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  212. Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    I use FireFTP.

    Responding cause, uh, I saw my name...

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  213. Re:OpenOffice legendary? by Hucko · · Score: 1

    Lyx has been reasonably nice to me.

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  214. Not really completely portable. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    It is interesting that portable Firefox and Thunderbird are not really completely portable. You cannot run two copies installed in two different locations. They still are tied to the Windows way of doing things and the Windows user name.

  215. FreeMind idea mapping software by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    FreeMind idea mapping software is excellent.