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Giant Ribbon Discovered At Edge of Solar System

beadwindow writes "NASA's IBEX (Interstellar Boundary Explorer) spacecraft has made the first all-sky maps of the heliosphere and the results have taken researchers by surprise. The maps are bisected by a bright, winding ribbon of unknown origin: 'This is a shocking new result,' says IBEX principal investigator Dave McComas of the Southwest Research Institute. 'We had no idea this ribbon existed — or what has created it. Our previous ideas about the outer heliosphere are going to have to be revised.' Another NASA scientist notes, '"This ribbon winds between the two Voyager spacecraft and was not observed by either of them.'"

251 comments

  1. Tag this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    startrekgenerations

    1. Re:Tag this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Negative. Tag this nexus!

    2. Re:Tag this by stonedcat · · Score: 1

      Honestly I was thinking Q.
      The nexus never occurred to me.

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    3. Re:Tag this by illumastorm · · Score: 1

      What about the Galactic Barrier?

    4. Re:Tag this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought it was a giant ZIG resistance "Support The Troops" banner.

    5. Re:Tag this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine we won't find the Galactic Barrier until we get to the edge of the Galaxy. The Nexus however, traveled through open space and solar systems and was definitely described as a ribbon. So it fits.

    6. Re:Tag this by jeff419 · · Score: 1

      NNNOOOOOOO, Take me BACK!!!!

    7. Re:Tag this by davester666 · · Score: 1

      I remember now. That's where I lost it. Now if you would kindly return it...

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    8. Re:Tag this by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 4, Funny

      Babylon 5 nerd here, it's obviously The Worm.

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    9. Re:Tag this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ribbon of duct tape...

    10. Re:Tag this by Asclepius99 · · Score: 2, Funny

      So that's how they keep the universe from falling apart!

    11. Re:Tag this by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Negative. Tag this nexus!

      '"This ribbon winds between the two Voyager spacecraft and was not observed by either of them.'"

      Or the birth of V'ger

    12. Re:Tag this by Kopachris · · Score: 0

      Lulz. I thought the same thing.

    13. Re:Tag this by nametaken · · Score: 1

      I'd love to, but /. tags don't work in Google Chrome.

    14. Re:Tag this by dotancohen · · Score: 4, Funny

      First MS Office. Then Open Office. Now the whole damn solar system!

      Ribbons be damned!

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    15. Re:Tag this by Smallpond · · Score: 1

      Dark Star fan here. It's obviously the Phoenix Asteroids.

    16. Re:Tag this by pugugly · · Score: 1

      You're *ALL* Wrong - it's GARY MITCHELL!!!!

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    17. Re:Tag this by Thuktun · · Score: 1

      I consider myself a B5 fan, but I had to look this up.

      It's from a B5 book, not any of the episodes or movies. The reviews I can see do not make me want to read it.

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  3. Ribbon? by clone53421 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bill Gates thought that he was being innovative. Who'd have guessed that God came up with it first?

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    1. Re:Ribbon? by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait... If both statements are true. Bill Gates must be God! It would explain some of the weird things in DNA that don't seem to do anything but it doesn't work when you take them away....

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    2. Re:Ribbon? by WiFiBro · · Score: 1

      Bill Gates must be God?

      We are witnessing the birth of a new dogma: the Holy Quaternity.

    3. Re:Ribbon? by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pioneer 10 & 11 did just fine with menus and tool-bars, you spoiled young wipper-snappers!
           

    4. Re:Ribbon? by superslacker87 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bill Gates must be God?

      We are witnessing the birth of a new dogma: the Holy Quaternity.

      You're late to the party, Bro.

      Catholics have been doing that with Mary for centuries now.

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    5. Re:Ribbon? by Opyros · · Score: 1

      That sounds more like proof that Mel Kaye is God.

    6. Re:Ribbon? by chemisus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wait... If both statements are true. Bill Gates must be God! It would explain some of the weird things in DNA that don't seem to do anything but it doesn't work when you take them away....

      It would also explain the cases where it doesnt work when you leave them in.

  4. We're surrounded by a ribbon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My god, we've been gift-wrapped for our alien overlords!

    2012 is true!

  5. Widespread Reach by cosm · · Score: 5, Funny

    The universe patched to 1.2, introducing Ribbon controls, because they collapse and expand in a visually appealing fashion. This helps the overlords better manage their multi-dimension MDI.

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    1. Re:Widespread Reach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i agree,
      we're all microbes on the slide tray of the universe.
      and yes we are just one monicule in a much larger universe regards,
      mike

  6. Re:Cosmic caring by clone53421 · · Score: 1, Funny

    No, it's pink... the universe is celebrating National Breast Cancer Awareness Month!

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  7. Bah, hack scientists by skornenicholas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We already KNEW about this, it is called the Great Galactic Barrier
    http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Galactic_barrier
    It's just the little one for each solar system, and these guys get federal grant money!

    1. Re:Bah, hack scientists by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      No, that's a shell, this is a ribbon.

      Isn't this obvious? We finally have proof of His Noodly Appendage.

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  8. differential flux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Differential flux? Perhaps we should build a capacitor to deal with that.

    1. Re:differential flux? by glarbl_blarbl · · Score: 1

      How are you planning to generate 1.21 gigawatts in outer space?! I'm sorry. But the only power source capable of generating 1.21 gigawatts of electricity is a bolt of lightning.

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    2. Re:differential flux? by PakProtector · · Score: 1

      SHAZAM!

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  9. Prediction by electricprof · · Score: 2, Funny

    I predict that further study will reveal the ribbon encircles a giant gift-wrapped present under an enormous Christmas tree. These were not discovered previously, since the present was hidden in the cosmic closet ...

    1. Re:Prediction by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      What about the jolly old man with white hair? I thought the Russians confirmed that God wasn't out there, though...

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    2. Re:Prediction by ChipMonk · · Score: 1

      Point of semantics: The Communists "proved" God wasn't out there.

      Of course, the only concurring "proof" also came from Communists. Even Carl Sagan wasn't so foolish as to admit a negative observation as positive proof.

    3. Re:Prediction by sg_oneill · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You can't prove all 'gods' dont exist, but pretty much all the 'gods' in the pantheon of human beliefs tend to have claims about them that can be tested, so far not looking good for the theists. We can pretty much rule out the biblical Judeo god (christianity, islam and judaism) because theres a LOT of claims about reality that contradict science (7 day creation, 6000 years old, giant wierd flood, space made of water, etc) The hindu conception is a little more plausible in terms of time spans, but still makes claims that don't hold up under the microscope. No idea about the Sikh concept. Budhism? I think you'll find the same problems with hinduism, but possibly compounded by different schools of thought. Admittedly I dont know much about the specific claims of much outside the judeo-christian-muslim religions ,but its not the point. The point is you CAN test the individual claims, unless its a truly unknowable god being proposed in which case why even bother, its not like theres any proposed negative outcomes from not caring.

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    4. Re:Prediction by FooAtWFU · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Alternatively.... some Christian groups can claim (to the horror of others) that the Bible is not the Truth. Rather, the Truth is the Truth, and the Bible is a book about truth, and humanity's relationship to it. This key distinction lets said groups avoid fundamentalism, and also means that the accuracy of the timelines in question is relatively inconsequential to the religion's understanding of itself and of the world.

      Noticing this, one may even begin appreciate a few Religious Claims from time to time. For instance, the statement "Let there be light!" is really about the best summary of the beginning of the universe until the 1930s when Georges Lemaitre -- a Catholic priest, mind you -- refined it into modern Big Bang theory. (Yeah, and you thought the Catholics were all anti-science just because Pope Urban VIII was too much of a 17th-century Italian nobleman to let Galileo insult him in the Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems. Not so much. A tragedy, yeah, but it was more about politics and calling the pope's guy "Simplicio" and making him stupid than it was really about science.)

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    5. Re:Prediction by the_womble · · Score: 1

      7 day creation, 6000 years old, giant wierd flood, space made of water

      1) None of those claims is part of Christianity. Biblical literalism rejected by theologians of the early church (e.g. St Augustine in the 4th century)
      2) Your argument is fallacious in any case as disproving one claim does not disprove any other claim not dependent on it. As far as I know no one has ever disproved any of the essential teaching of Christianity (and some, like original sin, appear to have been proved).

    6. Re:Prediction by bvankuik · · Score: 2, Funny

      unless its a truly unknowable god being proposed in which case why even bother, its not like theres any proposed negative outcomes from not caring.

      What about Chtulhu? Wanna test that? Some face hugging love?

    7. Re:Prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      7 day creation, 6000 years old, giant wierd flood, space made of water

      1) None of those claims is part of Christianity. Biblical literalism rejected by theologians of the early church (e.g. St Augustine in the 4th century) 2) Your argument is fallacious in any case as disproving one claim does not disprove any other claim not dependent on it. As far as I know no one has ever disproved any of the essential teaching of Christianity (and some, like original sin, appear to have been proved).

      [citations needed]
      St Augustines dogmas have been rejected by so many other theologians, and sin is a matter of perception, so that makes the original sin an empty shell. Define 'essential teaching', and also, what gives you the right to define the essential teaching of Christianity.

    8. Re:Prediction by dotancohen · · Score: 4, Informative

      We can pretty much rule out the biblical Judeo god (christianity, islam and judaism) because theres a LOT of claims about reality that contradict science (7 day creation, 6000 years old, giant wierd flood, space made of water, etc).

      Actually, when you read the Old Testament in the original Hebrew most of those contradictions disappear. They mostly came about in translations by trying to reuse existing Greek (then English) words (like water) for different concepts in the original. Ever heard about Moses' horns? Same phenomenon: inappropriate translation.

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    9. Re:Prediction by h4rm0ny · · Score: 1

      Alternatively.... some Christian groups can claim (to the horror of others) that the Bible is not the Truth

      My impression is that it's a great deal more than "some" Christians these days. The majority diverge from regarding the Bible as absolute Truth I should say, though that might be less so in the USA than elsewhere.

      And just to avoid making a pedantry post elsewhere, I'll roll in a comment to the GP that it's a six day creation, not seven. The seventh day was a well-earned rest and probably spent browsing Slashdot. ;)

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    10. Re:Prediction by t_ban · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The hindu conception is a little more plausible in terms of time spans, but still makes claims that don't hold up under the microscope. No idea about the Sikh concept. Budhism? I think you'll find the same problems with hinduism, but possibly compounded by different schools of thought. Admittedly I dont know much about the specific claims of much outside the judeo-christian-muslim religions ,but its not the point.

      Hmmm. So you

      o tackle three world religions one by one

      o trash all of them

      o admit you don't know much about any of them

      o claim that your ignorance is not the point, your uninformed opinions are still correct

      and you have been modded insightful. Well done, slashdot.

      FYI, Buddhism (note the spelling) does not speak of a god.

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    11. Re:Prediction by jack2000 · · Score: 1

      A hunk, a hunk of burning love! :D

    12. Re:Prediction by spitzig · · Score: 1

      1) None of those claims is part of Christianity. Biblical literalism rejected by theologians of the early church (e.g. St Augustine in the 4th century)

      no one has ever disproved any of the essential teaching of Christianity (and some, like original sin, appear to have been proved).

      1. Just because the early theologians rejected it doesn't mean it's not a part of Christianity. Christianity is not a monolithic belief system. I imagine the early theologians accepted plenty of things that both you and Christian Fundamentalists would reject.
      2. That word "essential" is pretty important to your claim. And, what people have called "essential" has changed a LOT of the past ~2000 years.
      3. It's been proven that God cursed everyone for a single action that a guy named Adam did 6000 years ago(or whenever you believe it happened)? I missed the scientific paper where God announced this. Or, do you mean that a symbolic version of the story has been proven?

    13. Re:Prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny that most of the miracles disappear pretty fast as well. Christs divinity doesn't seem quite so certain when you realise even the bible doesn't actually mention a virgin birth.

    14. Re:Prediction by laederkeps · · Score: 1

      God? Sure. Santa? Not yet.
      Since god is proposedly everywhere, it was easy for them to disprove once they had lift-off.
      A crazy old man in a flying sled? Do you have any idea what the odds are of that guy being within visible range of another flying vessel in the earth's atmosphere? Slim to none, my friend. Therefore, the grandparent's theory about presents being present could still theoretically be proven correct.

    15. Re:Prediction by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

      And just to avoid making a pedantry post elsewhere, I'll roll in a comment to the GP that it's a six day creation, not seven. The seventh day was a well-earned rest and probably spent browsing Slashdot. ;)

      Bullshit. Obliviously, 'God' partied all week and then pulled an all-nighter, just like they do at Cal Tech.

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    16. Re:Prediction by laejoh · · Score: 1

      In the original Hebrew? Klingon you surely mean!

    17. Re:Prediction by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 1

      God declares war on mankind on the first pages of Genesis and Jesus doesn't wait much longer with his threats of eternal torment in the New Testament.

      The more historically accurate the Bible is, the more I object to worshipping that bastard.

    18. Re:Prediction by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Since god is proposedly everywhere, it was easy for them to disprove once they had lift-off.

      Ah, but you underestimate him. Keep in mind that the only reported sightings have been a gentle breeze, a flame that didn't consume, and a booming voice from above.

      Thus, if God is truly "everywhere", outer space would be the last place you'd expect to be able to detect him. There is no air to move, no oxygen to support a flame, and not enough matter to propagate sound (not to mention no relative "up" from which it can originate).

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    19. Re:Prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your assignment is to describe the big bang theory of the creation of the Universe, accretion of matter to form stars, condensation of gas/dust to form planets, planetary geology in the formation of a planet with land and water masses, and evolutionary biology from the creation of life culminating in man, using 500 words or less in language understandable to the average person living 4,000 years ago.

      Compare to Genesis.

  10. The Nexus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the nexus.

  11. be careful by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's good we discovered this early on. If we were already launching interstellar ships, there's a very real danger that at least one crew member's latent ESP abilities would start to run amok after their ship tried entering the ribbon. And, even worse, it'd probably be one of the ship captain's oldest friends.

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  12. Star Trek did it by BearRanger · · Score: 1

    And no, not the Nexus. Classic Trek. The barrier at the edge of the galaxy. And like all good barriers they're designed to either keep something out, or to keep something in...

    I suppose the implication of Voyager not detecting it is that it wasn't there then. Guess the EBE's have noticed us after all.

    Oh yeah, for those who haven't caught on? :-) :-) :-)

    1. Re:Star Trek did it by brunes69 · · Score: 1

      Voyager never left the galaxy, or got anywhere near the edge, they just went to the other side of it.

    2. Re:Star Trek did it by BearRanger · · Score: 1

      Wrong Voyager. I meant the Voyager space probe discussed in the article. If you must have a Star Trek reference for that one call it V'ger.

    3. Re:Star Trek did it by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      The Voyager space probe discussed in the article has come even less close to the edge of the galaxy than the fictional Voyager starship from Star Trek.

    4. Re:Star Trek did it by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Yep indeed! it was obvious for an old f* like me that you were talking about V'ger ! ;-)

      Not sure what Star Trek Voyager is although I think I remember that it is some kind of a Star Trek fork like "Deep space nine".

      Thinking of it, isn't this the one where Mrs. Columbo is the captain of the ship ? ;-)

      I did not know that V'ger never left the galaxy although, Thanks !

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    5. Re:Star Trek did it by BearRanger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sometimes literalists have a way of ruining the joke for everyone...

      Ribbon is to solar system as barrier is to galaxy. Simple as that. And if I were being literal I would have noted that V'ger was supposed to be Voyager 6, which of course doesn't (yet) exist. Then again I'm making jokes about Star Trek. None of it has any bearing on reality.

    6. Re:Star Trek did it by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Oh, that was a joke!

      Sorry, all the guys who posted jokes alluding to stories that talk about barriers actually around solar systems kind of spoiled yours.

    7. Re:Star Trek did it by mysidia · · Score: 1

      You think it doesn't exist... but that's just because it got launched in the future, before it travelled back in time and started sending data as planned :)

    8. Re:Star Trek did it by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      Star trek voyager was a series about a starfleet ship that due to a dying godlike being called the "caretaker" had ended up stuck an extremely long way from home.

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  13. Ah, So That's What it's All About! by Greyfox · · Score: 1
    God's evolving the strippers who jump out of the birthday cake when God pulls the ribbon! He's using evolution so it will be a surprise!

    Hey... makes as much sense as any other religion. Free sainthood for early supporters!

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  14. calibration error? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Based on the pic, I'm betting that it's a calibration error caused by measuring the sun through the back side of the detector. :-)

    1. Re:calibration error? by Vectronic · · Score: 1

      or a hair on the lens...

  15. I guess by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    it's not a quantum leap to assume that other solar systems have them too. I wonder what more information we'll be able to learn about our system, and therefore be able to infer about other systems, due to this discovery.

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    1. Re:I guess by dysan27 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, my first reaction when I read, paraphrase, "We don't understand this" was: Coool. The neatest thing are discovered when scientist find something they don't understand. Because it means what they thought they knew was wrong (or at least not completely right) and so now they have to find out what is right. It's the same for the LHC what I'm hoping for as a result is something no one has predicted, and hence something new to research. If they finally smash the partials at full power and go "WTF!" at the results I will be estatic.

  16. galactic magnetic field by wizardforce · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FTA:

    One important clue: The ribbon runs perpendicular to the direction of the galactic magnetic field just outside the heliosphere,

    It looks like the ribbon is a side effect of the interaction between the galactic magnetic field and the heliosphere. It's possible that the interaction between the two causes particles to either collect in that region or direct those particles from that region toward Earth.

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    1. Re:galactic magnetic field by sortius_nod · · Score: 1

      TFA also stated that no one really knows what it is or how it's formed, so you can't really infer that because it runs perpendicular to the galactic magnetic field that it's a side effect of the two interacting. There are a number of unanswered questions about this, and only time will tell what it is or how it formed. Very big watch this space (sorry, couldn't help myself).

    2. Re:galactic magnetic field by dhanson865 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's possible that the interaction between the two causes particles to either collect in that region or direct those particles from that region toward Earth

      Other than it's where you live what is your fixation with the Earth? I'm assuming you should have said towards the SUN since it happens to be the center point of the system as a whole. Or am I missing something technical that somehow shows that the earth is specifically effecting this interaction?

    3. Re:galactic magnetic field by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I disagree. The probability of the ribbon running perpindicular to the galactic magnetic field is pretty low if it's a coincidence and it's not implausible that there are interactions between the heliosphere and the magnetic field (given that the heliosphere is set by plasma interactions and all, especially). So to infer that the galactic magnetic field plays a role is perfectly reasonable.

      Perhaps you mean that it isn't *proof* that the galactic magnetic field is responsible? (Which is true. Granted, there is no proof in science, just sometimes strong evidence. Which this isn't, either.)

    4. Re:galactic magnetic field by ls671 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I like the GP suggestion, in scientific thinking, you *need* to make hypothesis and try to validate them.

      What if the ribbons were just Galactic Northern Lights ? ;-))

      There is nothing wrong with trying to guess in science as long as you categorize your thoughts as hypothesis...

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    5. Re:galactic magnetic field by wizardforce · · Score: 1

      The satellite orbits Earth. Particles moving toward the Sun can also move toward the Earth. If they were not moving toward the Earth we wouldn't have observed the ribbon.

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    6. Re:galactic magnetic field by FlyingBishop · · Score: 1

      If the particles weren't directed towards Earth, they wouldn't show up on the sensors of a probe in orbit around Earth. Ignoring this would commit the fallacy you accuse him of, that of assuming that just because we see something from our viewpoint means it has a solar-system-wide implication.

    7. Re:galactic magnetic field by KillerBob · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The thing being... we have a 2D view of a 3D object. From our perspective it runs perpendicular to the axis of the magnetic field. But without a second observation point that's far enough away from the original observation point, we can't actually know that it actually *is* perpendicular to the axis, or whether it's an optical illusion and really going off at some oddball angle.

      Just playing devil's advocate here. It certainly does look as though it's related to the galactic magnetic field, and I liked the suggestion of another poster, that it's basically just the galactic equivalent of Aurora Borealis. But at this point, we just can't *know* that it's related to the magnetic field at all. We could be seeing that giant floating ribbon from Star Trek: Generations.

      And my first thought was to the 1992 video game, Star Control II... the documentation that came with that game said that access to hyperspace was impossible within large gravity wells (such as those around stars), and that there was a visible shimmer when you got to the region of space where the transition between dimensions was possible... :)

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    8. Re:galactic magnetic field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...I'm actually playing The Ur-Quan Masters right now.

    9. Re:galactic magnetic field by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The thing being... we have a 2D view of a 3D object. From our perspective it runs perpendicular to the axis of the magnetic field. But without a second observation point that's far enough away from the original observation point, we can't actually know that it actually *is* perpendicular to the axis, or whether it's an optical illusion and really going off at some oddball angle.

      Again, sure. But we got what we got. And, once again, what's being suggested isn't that we know that these two things are connected. Merely that it'd be a heckuva coincidence if they weren't. If I hear a scream and rush around the corner to see someone unconscious on the sidewalk, I'm going to assume that the two are connected until I get further information suggesting otherwise. Certainly as I try to figure out what happened, that's my starting position. And similarly, the good folks working on this ribbon mystery are going to start by looking for ways of connecting the ribbon to the galactic magnetic field. They might be wrong. That might get them nowhere. But you start where the initial set of clues lead you and work from there.

      So, once again: no one is saying that we know that the two are connected. It's just a reasonably strong hint in the initial stages of investigating a new phenomenon.

    10. Re:galactic magnetic field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Are you trolling or just stupid? That ribbon lies in the plane that goes through our sun and is perpendicular to the axis of the magnetic field. The actual distance of the ribbon to our sun doesn't matter. You could fit any wiggly rope into that plane and it would be perpendicular to the axis of the magnetic field. That's how "perpendicular" works in 3D.

    11. Re:galactic magnetic field by poopdeville · · Score: 1

      Yup, that pattern looked like aurora solare to me. I just coined a term!

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    12. Re:galactic magnetic field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like the poopdeville said. It's like an inverse aurora. Turn the roles of the Sun and Earth to their inverses and scale it up, change the actors and consider the magnetic flux. Open a can of your favorite beverage. Enjoy.

    13. Re:galactic magnetic field by khallow · · Score: 1

      Look at the picture, it shows a bent image. No way that lies on a plane passing through the Sun.

    14. Re:galactic magnetic field by sznupi · · Score: 1

      ...Solaris? Might resonate better both with Earth based phenomenon and certain book with a certain fictional place ;) (and its depictions in recent movie)

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    15. Re:galactic magnetic field by AniVisual · · Score: 1

      Yes it can, in spherical geometry, if the 2D scan is slightly off-base.

      Since the heliosphere is not exactly a sphere (it has a tail), I'll also expect the effects of the offset to be exaggerated.

    16. Re:galactic magnetic field by khallow · · Score: 1

      The bend occurs near the front of the heliosphere (labeled by "nose").

    17. Re:galactic magnetic field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On a Mollweide projection, a great circle shows up as some kind of sine curve, not as a straight line. I think they're actually drawing the plane we're discussing as a thin red line on this other picture.

    18. Re:galactic magnetic field by khallow · · Score: 1

      If the effects are in a plane containing the Sun, then the distortion of the heliosphere shouldn't show up in the chart.

    19. Re:galactic magnetic field by khallow · · Score: 1

      The fit isn't that bad (it's close enough to be interesting and near planar) and addresses my concern. Still I think the A.C. poster should have been more polite since the phenomena wasn't in the plane that they claimed it was in and the error they were correcting was something you'd expect smart humans to get wrong.

    20. Re:galactic magnetic field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And my first thought was to the 1992 video game, Star Control II...

      Now you've distracted me, making me think of those sexy Syreens, and that one night ... me and her .... Gaaa! I can't control myself!

    21. Re:galactic magnetic field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the edge of the turtle's shell.

    22. Re:galactic magnetic field by Orne · · Score: 1

      The last time I checked, the only field that runs perpendicular to a magnetic field is an electric field.

    23. Re:galactic magnetic field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, 3D geometry isn't hard, and it's more fun when something wrong is modded +5 and the correct explanation is modded -1.

    24. Re:galactic magnetic field by Zoolander · · Score: 1

      Please, think of the kittens.

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    25. Re:galactic magnetic field by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Not that I need to jump in here, but I should mention that this is one of my (and many others') issues in life...

      Instead of making logical jumps / the reasoning of possibility and openly discussing it with other individuals, I (and many others) are expected to keep our mouths shut until the "other people who do this for a living" complete their work.

      Let's leave any other possibilities and base ideas out of the picture.

      *walks*

    26. Re:galactic magnetic field by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Yes, indeed.

      Who knows..? Maybe this will be the first discovery of a new particle or universal dynamic/static form of energy that we hadn't previously even thought of.

      Or, maybe it's not. So anyone with ideas, keep your mouths shut.

      In case it's not clear, previous sentence was a sarcastic statement. Based on most, if not all, Human scientific discoveries from the past, people on the outside looking in aren't ALWAYS wrong.

      I'm on-board with your comment. Yes, that's real, not sarcastic ;)

    27. Re:galactic magnetic field by Smallpond · · Score: 1

      The last time I checked, the only field that runs perpendicular to a magnetic field is an electric field.

      Good point, but according to the article this ribbon is defined by a flux of uncharged particles. Weird.

    28. Re:galactic magnetic field by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 1

      I can't even understand what you're trying to say, there.

    29. Re:galactic magnetic field by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Sorry, sometimes I make no sense to people.

    30. Re:galactic magnetic field by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 1

      Happens to all of us.

      What were you trying to say before?

    31. Re:galactic magnetic field by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      I was saying that people like me (who have excellent abilities of making logical conclusions, jumping between topics, omitting unnecessary thought, and having long-winded open discussions with other people about the possible conclusions) are most often expected to keep our mouths shut because we don't have "the college degree" or "link to [group x] people."

      We are expected to remain quiet and let others do their work in coming to the best possible answers in scientific matters. In the end, I smirk and laugh to myself because I came up with the best possible conclusion years/months/days before the final verdict is issued.

      Yet, I use everything properly used in scientific theory except for actual physical contact with the matter. Issues that require physical examination, I am not allowed to do because I'm not "one of THOSE people." I'm just some "idiot who dropped out of high school in Cincinnati."

      I dropped out for a reason. My mind was far too busy addressing complicated issues and tired of repetitious rote learning that is required by school.

      Is that clear or did I deliver blabber again? :)

    32. Re:galactic magnetic field by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 1

      I see.

      That's certainly not the point I was making, far from it. I'm in no way trying to discourage alternate theories on this phenomenon, but rather trying to explain why the proposed connection is a reasonable starting point. (It may be wrong, but you have to start somewhere, in effect.)

      It's sad that there are people who feel that credentials are what matter most; I'm sorry that you encounter them. Just know that we're not all like that, some of us are willing to listen.

    33. Re:galactic magnetic field by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      I'm not disagreeing with you; I was stating I'm with you, disagreeing with people that aren't of your mindset. Most everything I say is sarcastic. ;)

  17. That's no ribbon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a MOON!

    1. Re:That's no ribbon! by fast+turtle · · Score: 0

      Phillip K. Dick was right. It's Disc world

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  18. Re:Must be another Starbucks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a restaurant, you uneducated slob!

  19. DESTROY IT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I knew there was some reason we couldn't use magic and this "heliosphere" and "shining ribbon" is exactly why. Break those things and let our superpowers be born!

  20. Easy... by popo · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It's just a warp signature. "They" weren't ready to make first contact.

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    1. Re:Easy... by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, it's a warning beacon advising more civilized species of interstellar travelers to keep away from from a star system inhabited by homo sapiens sapiens.

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    2. Re:Easy... by lastgoodnickname · · Score: 1, Funny

      Inhabited by Homo pseudo-sapiens, often seen with Homo cidal sapiens

    3. Re:Easy... by grcumb · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, it's a warning beacon advising more civilized species of interstellar travelers to keep away from from a star system inhabited by homo sapiens sapiens.

      Actually, it's a banner. When we finally decipher it, we'll read, "Do Not Feed The Monkeys."

      Well, actually, ".syeknoM ehT deeF toN oD" If you know what I mean.

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    4. Re:Easy... by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      No, it's a warning beacon advising more civilized species of interstellar travelers to keep away from from a star system inhabited by homo sapiens sapiens.

      And the fact that we refer to ourselves as homo sapiens sapiens provides great mirth for Kang and Kodos.

    5. Re:Easy... by Excelcior · · Score: 1

      It could also be a banner that reads "One rule: OBEY." Or "Your Dentist is lying to you."

      Either one, really.

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    6. Re:Easy... by soundguy · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's a banner. When we finally decipher it, we'll read, "Do Not Feed The Monkeys."

      Or maybe "Galactic spacefill - no scavenging - separate your recyclables"

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    7. Re:Easy... by dkf · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, it's a banner. When we finally decipher it, we'll read, "Do Not Feed The Monkeys."

      I'd be happier if it said "Do Not Feed On The Monkeys" to be honest.

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    8. Re:Easy... by ErikZ · · Score: 1

      No no... it's "Do not tap on glass"

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    9. Re:Easy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it actually says 'Beautiful Europa welcomes you to our luxurious holiday resort. Enjoy your stay, oh and about the third planet, ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE.

  21. Larry Nevin's by auric_dude · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Larry Nevin's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      careful, it's unstable!

  22. Whatever you do... by unitron · · Score: 1

    ...just don't pull on either end!

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    1. Re:Whatever you do... by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      But but but but buttttt... WHYYYYYYYY? *cries*

      I wanna go screw with something I don't know anything about so I can tell everyone something completely safe and scientifiiiicccccc..

      *sniff sniff* ...and I wanna bring some home with meeeeeeee. *kicking tantrum* ;)

    2. Re:Whatever you do... by unitron · · Score: 1

      On second thought, just think of this as the universe's way of saying "pull my finger".

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  23. Final Fantasy by White+Flame · · Score: 5, Funny

    At last, we now know why the solar system is immune to status effects.

    1. Re:Final Fantasy by Anonymous+Struct · · Score: 1

      Oh good, so I'm not the only one who thought this.

  24. Re:Mine is more interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hey, Uncle Ike here. Sorry about that. It was pretty fucking hilarious, though.

  25. don't like the ribbon by dolo724 · · Score: 1, Funny

    I want my menus back!

    This ribbon thing is driving me nuts!

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    1. Re:don't like the ribbon by lastgoodnickname · · Score: 0

      Switch to Open Universe

  26. Ribbons, Spheres ... by Cmdr-Absurd · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ribbons, Spheres...
    We're all in the middle of a cosmic rhythmic gymnastics competition!

  27. The Hindmost is pleased. by Megatog615 · · Score: 3, Funny

    And so begins Louis, Nessus, Teela, and Speaker's journey...

    1. Re:The Hindmost is pleased. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fleet of worlds hit some mass on the way out.

      equivalent to a huuuuge red skidmark on the pavement...

  28. Re:Cosmic caring by tagno25 · · Score: 1

    no, it is the red string of fate.

  29. Christmas is coming! by chfriley · · Score: 1

    The obvious answer is - Christmas is coming and the ribbon has to come from somewhere!

    1. Re:Christmas is coming! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Christmas is coming and the ribbon has to come from somewhere"

      So are you suggesting our solar system has been wrapped up like a present?! ... oh great, aliens have decided to give us away as a present! ... I guess they used a ribbon because they can't find enough wrapping paper.

      Better hope the aliens are not giving our solar system to their kids, because if they are anything like human kids on Christmas day, then they will quickly tear open the present, then play with the planets for 5 mins, then spend the rest of the day playing with the present packaging.

  30. A ribbon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    What, can't a solar system look cute for photo day?

    1. Re:A ribbon? by skine · · Score: 1

      Well, it's dropped the ball the last two times...

  31. that is a stargate wormhole that has gone bad. by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    that is a stargate wormhole that has gone bad. OR they are trying to dial Destiny and need a lot of power.

    1. Re:that is a stargate wormhole that has gone bad. by wizardforce · · Score: 1
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  32. Have something written by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Don't open before christmas"

  33. It's God's fly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's getting ready to teabag the Earth in 2012. It's part of his frat initiation.

  34. It's Xenu's soul catcher! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  35. It's a restaurant, you uneducated slob! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ....at the edge of the solar system.

    1. Re:It's a restaurant, you uneducated slob! by Paiev · · Score: 1

      So THAT'S where the restaurant at the end of the universe is...

  36. Looking for the Right Thing by lousyd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This "ribbon" escaped detection by two former Voyager spacecraft, and is only now being detected by some new spacecraft that happened to be looking for something different. This "ribbon" is a ribbon by some specific property.

    It's amazing, to me, how what we see is influenced to a great extent by what we're looking for. The manifold possibilities the universe presents to us!

    --
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    1. Re:Looking for the Right Thing by argent · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think they are only talking about the location of the Voyager spacecraft as a reference, I don't think there's any suggestion that they would have been expected to detect a large scale effect like this. It would be like expecting to determine the shape of the Mid Atlantic Ridge from two Bathyscaphe dives.

    2. Re:Looking for the Right Thing by hazem · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think they are only talking about the location of the Voyager spacecraft as a reference, I don't think there's any suggestion that they would have been expected to detect a large scale effect like this

      Plus, I suspect the Voyager craft were not equipped to detect this particular phenomena. However, if they were colliding with a lot more particles than expected, or got caught in a flow of particles, over a long period of time, that might impact their trajectories.

      I've read that the courses Pioneer craft have changed in slow and unexplainable ways. I can't find if the Voyager craft have experienced the same thing. But maybe this phenomena could be part of the explanation.

      I just love how we keep finding new things that challenge what we knew before.

    3. Re:Looking for the Right Thing by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Hush, hush.

      Don't be saying things that make sound logical sense.

      You'll make the average societal game players say "huh" too many times and exhale too much CO2. It will also create a sonic vibration cancellation of the "huh" of another and make people die in silence.

      Oh, damnit. There I go again. ;)

  37. Re:Fucking Global Warming by ls671 · · Score: 1

    Are you praying god or the nature ?

    If so, you should be more polite...

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  38. Ecliptics? by dugrrr · · Score: 1

    While the ribbon's perpendicular orientation to the galactic magnetic field is interesting, I'd like to know the relative orientations of the galactic and solar system ecliptics. If for no other reason than to have a frame of reference. I'm guessing that the galactic field is roughly perpendicular to its ecliptic (right hand rule?) but not necessarily to our direction of penetration with our heliopause.

    1. Re:Ecliptics? by Meumeu · · Score: 1

      I'd like to know the relative orientations of the galactic and solar system ecliptics.

      About 60 degrees.

  39. Long-delayed echoes by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Could this be the cause of the Long-delayed echoes?

    1. Re:Long-delayed echoes by nacturation · · Score: 3, Informative

      Long delayed echoes (LDEs) are radio echoes which return to the sender several seconds after a radio transmission has occurred.

      Unless someone has discovered faster than light communications, probably not.

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    2. Re:Long-delayed echoes by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Right, too far. We'd be looking for features closer to Earth's orbit. Never mind.

    3. Re:Long-delayed echoes by coryking · · Score: 1

      Wow. I never knew about this phenomenon. Thanks for the link--now you've got me reading everything I can find about it. Kinda creepy, actually.

    4. Re:Long-delayed echoes by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 3, Informative

      Could this be the cause of the Long-delayed echoes?

      No, LDEs are are due to radio signals being trapped in an ionospheric/magnetospheric ionization duct. These are one to two kilometer diameter "tubes" of of low electron density that are aligned with the earth's magnetic field lines and extend from the F-region of the ionosphere in one hemisphere to the F-region in the opposite hemisphere. Radio signals originating in one hemisphere travel along one of these ducts and then are reflected off the top side of the ionosphere in the other hemisphere. They then travel back along the duct to the place of origin, resulting in the long-delayed echo.

      There's a pretty good article (from which I lifted most of this information) on this phenomenon in the November 2009 issue of QST magazine.

      KJ6BSO

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    5. Re:Long-delayed echoes by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Score possibility! ...could be that with 5 other dynamics or constants, too; i.e. it may not be something that's able to be detected unless everything is 3-dimensionally organized in a certain fashion, particles of (these types) are traveling at (these speeds) in combination with echoes of (these particles) WHEN combined with (these particles) of (these speeds) interacting with complex first set, while only (this 4th dimension interaction) is disposed of at a certain rate between (a, b, and c).

      Or it's gas. Who knows? lol

      Oh, wait, NASA knows how to scientifically come up with the answers to everything already, so we should just wait for their answer. Tee hee.

    6. Re:Long-delayed echoes by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      *cough*curvature of space time a possibility or not*coughcough*

  40. More holes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First we had to worry about a hole in the ozone layer, now we have a tear in the heliosphere?

  41. Re:Cosmic caring by cthulu_mt · · Score: 3, Funny

    Some of us are aware of breast all year long.

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  42. Pigs In Spaaaaace by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Obviously, it's Miss Piggy's hair ribbon.

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  43. I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our ribbon making overlords.

  44. Does that mean the solar system is a girl? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1, Funny

    Worked for Ms. Pacman

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  45. Not nice... by war4peace · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    You know, it's not nice to take a picture of God with his pants unzipped... Those scientists should be ashamed of themselves!

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  46. This was described many years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's for our love. - Stevie Wonder

    1. Re:This was described many years ago by calzones · · Score: 1

      touche

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  47. When a problem comes along... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I dedicate this to the story:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbt30UnzRWw
       

  48. Crime Scene: Do Not Cross by rmd6502 · · Score: 1

    Meep!

  49. All hail by Bysshe · · Score: 5, Funny

    All hail his noodly appendage.

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    1. Re:All hail by oldhack · · Score: 1

      All hail! Ramen.

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    2. Re:All hail by AniVisual · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why is this modded funny? This is more evidence that Pastafarianism is the One True Religion. While the theorists scramble to explain the FSM's Right Arm, us believers get angry at the blindness of the other humans. What sacrilege to explain away all the evidence smack before your face with mumbo jumbo and treat our religion as a joke!

    3. Re:All hail by Bysshe · · Score: 1

      Some people believe in Science, others in noodles. We tolerate and accept all views afterall the FSM manipulates all science when people aren't looking.

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  50. If I remember correctly by oljanx · · Score: 1

    This is exactly the wake you'd expect to be produced by a Vogon fleet.

  51. on further review... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scientists were further astonished to find that the yellow ribbon observed at the edge of the solar system seemed to be interrupted by a pattern of symbols, which some say resembled the Roman letters:

    Z E I S S

  52. Change the channel, please by Machupo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I hate rhythmic gymnastics...

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  53. The winner by SEWilco · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The Nobel Prize in Astrophysics goes to Yevgeniya Kanayeva, for championship ribbon gymnastics achievements.

  54. The Note by DynaSoar · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Please wear this ribbon on your planetary system in order to help us raise awareness. Awareness is such a precious commodity in galaxies of all colors, shapes and sizes, that we feel it only proper to honor the awareness that is within us all by taking this opportunity to mark those systems with nascent awarenesses with a ribbon. Hopefully by comparing our pre-aware planetary systems we can come to appreciate our own awareness and the source of that awareness, whatever form you may believe that it takes. Remember, it takes a spiral arm to raise a planetary system. Thank you again for raising awareness with this ribbon."

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    1. Re:The Note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who doesn't want to wear the ribbon?

    2. Re:The Note by Reziac · · Score: 1

      [peering at fine print]

      Why does it also say "Hazardous Area" and "Kick Me"??

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  55. Gift by BlueBoxSW.com · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It just means that life, the universe, and everything is a gift.

  56. Does it bounce on the edges? by chord.wav · · Score: 1, Funny

    Seems God is AFK and we are seeing the screen saver.

  57. No, no. It's obviously the Third Wave. by mattcsn · · Score: 1

    Of course, the Hydrus Blast seems to have given us a miss, so I'm not sure what long-term implications this has.

  58. Judging by the rainbow colors in the article's pic by jbezorg · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Our solar system is gay.

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  59. Oh, c'mon by lastgoodnickname · · Score: 0

    How close does it come to Uranus? Maybe its not a ribbon as such.

  60. Good by SleepyHappyDoc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now we have a good reason to send some more Voyager probes out. The last two were certainly worth the cost, and it'd probably be a lot cheaper to build and launch a comparable probe today than it was when the first two were launched.

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    1. Re:Good by tokul · · Score: 1

      it'd probably be a lot cheaper to build and launch a comparable probe today

      It might be cheaper to build, but you will have to wait for another 140 years to get same planetary alignment as the one which was exploited by Voyager in 70's.

    2. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least until one comes back looking for "the maker"....

    3. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "it'd probably be a lot cheaper to build and launch a comparable probe today"

      ....If there had been ANY progress in Space since the 60's. Which there hasn't.
      In fact the Space Shuttle was a step BACKWARDS.

    4. Re:Good by SleepyHappyDoc · · Score: 1

      That doesn't mean it can't go, just that it probably will only hit one planet on the way out instead of a bunch.

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    5. Re:Good by SleepyHappyDoc · · Score: 1

      How do you figure? We may not have better vehicles for manned flight, but we have way better cameras, sensors, processors, compression algorithms, and a lot of other science-finding goodies. Not to mention batteries...I wonder how long Voyager's sensors would have run off the battery in a Macbook.

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  61. FFM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the Flying Fettucini Monster!

  62. Douglas Adams ... by Netssansfrontieres · · Score: 1

    Were Douglas Adams still among us, he'd perhaps remind us that it could be a highway. Worse still, it could be a highway under construction.

    1. Re:Douglas Adams ... by Julz · · Score: 1

      Drim. Dram. Drom.

      It is the Drim
      that put the Dram
      in the Drom.

      A somewhat brief Vogon Haiku
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  63. Hay, Ballonboy by davidwr · · Score: 1

    I lost teh bow.

    Halp me find it.

    -Ceilin Cat

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  64. Northern Lights (sort of)? by DJRumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Would these possibly be some sort of 'northern lights' phenomena? If the earth's magnetic field generates a phenomena at a planetary scale, why not a solar system generating a similar field that interacts with galactic particles?

    1. Re:Northern Lights (sort of)? by smoker2 · · Score: 1

      One of those images shows how perpendicular this ribbon is to the galactic field lines. Suppose the bottom left end of the ribbon is "north" on the solar magnetic field, and the top left of the picture is "north" on the galactic field. Then assume that without the galactic magnetic field, that "north" pole of the solar field would naturally be pointing bottom right (parallel to the galactic field, but reversed in polarity).
      Couldn't the galactic field be pulling the solar field towards the galactic fields polarity ? And the fact it isn't totally successful, could explain part of the protective effect of the solar field - the heliosphere ?

      This could be why we might be seeing an aurora type field line effect on solar scale.

      Alternatively, if we assume that the solar field is polarised to the galactic field, could the ribbon just be the area directly between the north and south poles where magnetism cancels out - ENF = the neutral zone ?

  65. It's a by C18H27NO3+ · · Score: 1

    Dyson Sphere in the making.

    1. Re:It's a by AniVisual · · Score: 1

      Witty. Not only does this sphere collect radiation from the Sun, it is powered by cosmic radiation outside the heliosphere as well.

  66. No evidence to support the existence of gods. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Therefore no reason to suppose they exist.

    1. Re:No evidence to support the existence of gods. by MRe_nl · · Score: 1

      It occurs to me that man and his religion are one and the same thing. The unknown exists. Each man projects on the blankness the shape of his own particular world-view. He endows his creation with his own personal volitions and attitudes. The religious man stating his case is in essence explaining himself. When a fanatic is contradicted he feels a threat to his own existence; he reacts violently. And the atheist projects no image upon the blank whatever. The cosmic mysteries he accepts as things in themselves; he feels no need to hang a more or less human mask upon them.
      Otherwise,the correlation between a man and the shape into which he moulds the unknown for greater ease of manipulaion is exact.

      All bow and prostrate before divine Jack Vance!

      (Planet of Adventure/Servants of the Wankh)

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  67. Just Missed By Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I understand the article correctly, Voyager 1 passed right above the ribbon and Voyager 2 passed just below the ribbon. Years ago NASA used Jupiter's gravity to send Voyager 1 above the plane of the solar system and Neptune's gravity to send Voyager 2 below the plane of the solar system, leading to both spacecraft just missing the ribbon.

    Maybe it was a mistake to send both spacecraft out of the ecliptic plane. Does anyone know the benefit NASA saw from sending both spacecraft out of the solar plane?

    1. Re:Just Missed By Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 by osu-neko · · Score: 2, Informative

      The ribbon's orientation does not correspond to the ecliptic. There would have been no benefit to keeping either of the Voyagers in the ecliptic, and the disadvantage would be they'd both be given identical angles on the solar system, and one identical to the one we already have, rather than each having its own angle and one different from our own ecliptic-bound view. Also, the data we get regarding how gravity perturbs them as they move would be substantially less useful.

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  68. Re:Queue the environmentalist by skine · · Score: 1

    I bet some environmentalist will come up with the idea that we're somehow responsible for that rip in the heliosphere.

    It's protecting the penguin colonies on Pluto, of course.

  69. I welcome our giant ribbon producing overlords by youn · · Score: 1

    but that raises new questions like...
    Does that mean microsoft monopoly extends beyond our first impressions?
    Is the solar system in the midst of an upgrade process to Universe OS version 2010. Is the upgrade safe? If not, I definitely hope for my sake they have a backup

    but Darn! couldn't they stay away from ribbons... what's with people everywhere... can't they have a classic menu interface?

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    Never antropomorphize computers, they do not like that :p
  70. Kuiper Anomaly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the next few years after the first asteroid mining operation, a research team will be assembled and sent to the far reaches of the solar system and find an alien device that allows instantaneous transportation to other solar systems within our galaxy, this device will become known as a Stargate.

  71. Bill knows by symbolset · · Score: 1

    Bill knows and has always known that he's not inventing anything and he never has. He's quite proud of the fact. He's a pirate in the literal, not the BSA sense. As long as you're a "Windows shop" all your base are belong to him, and that causes him no end of glee.

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  72. What if the reason we didn't see it was... by neoevans · · Score: 1

    ...that it wasn't there before. We tend to think of the universe as pretty static, sometimes, and look for answers as if the questions never change. But what if this just showed up? Would we worry? What it if were headed this way?

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    "You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake."...Tyler Durden
    1. Re:What if the reason we didn't see it was... by jibjibjib · · Score: 1

      If you RTFA you'll read that they're making a second measurement to check if it's changing, and are thus not as closed-minded as you seem to imply.

    2. Re:What if the reason we didn't see it was... by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      This is a bit like positing that the first time you look into a box and see it contains apples, saying the reason you didn't know there were apples in it before this moment is not because you hadn't looked inside before, but that they just appeared the moment before you opened the box. Sure, it's possible, but the main reason you didn't know what was in the box before was because you hadn't looked, not that there were no apples.

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      "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
  73. Ahh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All your Ribbons are belong to us!

  74. completely miss the point about religion by circletimessquare · · Score: 1, Interesting

    science tells you how

    religion tells you why

    science tells you how the world works

    religion tells you how to live your life

    if you reject all traditional religion's codes of conduct, that doesn't mean you are nonreligious, it just means you follow your own unique religion. if you claim to follow no code of conduct, this is a religion as well. no, i'm not being lose with my semantics. rather, you are being phobic of a harmless word: "religion". don't be phobic in your conception of what religion really means: relax, its part of human experience, always was, and always will be

    of course, you're not alone in your transgression: plenty of religious folk miss the point about science, and think it somehow treads on science's turf

    genuine religion answers questions science can never answer. genuine science answers questions religion can never answer. science and religion never meet

    you lose when you begin to answer scientific questions with religion, or religious questions with science

    how peaceful and prosperous a society is is pretty much directly proportional to how many people get that essential separation about science and religion in their cognition

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    1. Re:completely miss the point about religion by nstlgc · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Science gives you answers that can be proven. Religion gives you stories. It's true that there are questions that science (currently) cannot answer - but religion does not answer them either.

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    2. Re:completely miss the point about religion by SigmundFloyd · · Score: 2

      science tells you how
      religion tells you lies

      FTFY.

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      Knowledge is power; knowledge shared is power lost.
    3. Re:completely miss the point about religion by KevinColyer · · Score: 1

      Scientific truth is a different sort of truth to Mathematical truth. Literary truth is again a different sort of truth. Stories can be true and represent truth in powerful ways. Your life story would be true if you told it? (Even if parts of it were not entirely accurate...)

  75. Its not of unknown origin. by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 1

    Its just that the veil of the suns atmosphere seems to be way different than all largely accepted theories.

    Its not unknown dammit. Its just different. You all should relate.

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    I think you underestimate just how much I just dont care.
  76. interesting theory by ILuvRamen · · Score: 1

    Well I had no idea our sun generated a massive magnetic field. Okay, I have a theory that's going to blow your freaking minds! This story plus the magnetic current story and other recent magnetism stories here have made me wonder...is the magnetic field from the sun screwing with the magnetic field on Earth inside the bermuda triangle and causing compasses to mess up and all that? Or perhaps whatever is causing this ribbon, assuming it's an outside source, is getting through and hitting earth in the bermuda triangle. It could be some odd particle interaction that we know nothing about yet but disrupts magnetic fields. I hope they look into this!

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    1. Re:interesting theory by osu-neko · · Score: 2, Informative

      o.O You're kidding, right?

      Just in case you're serious... No, that's not happening, and there's no need to "look into it", as we already know the distribution of the magnetic field of the Earth pretty well, and it's not doing what you describe. As to where things "get through and hit earth", it does happen and it's easily observable. Aurora are obvious, visible signs of such distortions of the magnetic field coming all the way down to intersect the Earth, which does happen... around the magnetic poles.

      Also, we understand fairly well what's going on in the Bermuda Triangle. It's factually well established that there are no more mysterious incidents within this area than within any other similarly sized area of the sea with similar traffic. However, incidents happening there get more hype because they happen there. It's a sociological phenomenon that requires no appeal to strange physics, geoscience, or the like. Indeed, if there was something strange going on there, one would expect a greater than average incidence of missing ships, airplanes, etc. But in fact, there are not. The only thing unusual about the Bermuda Triangle is the amount of stories that come out of it.

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      "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
  77. Am I the only one who read... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one who read Giant Gibbon Discovered At Edge of Solar System...? That was freaky, for a few seconds. Funny feeling, thinking about waking up some morning, with Slashdot announcing the discovery of some extraterrestrial developed life...

  78. ah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thats where the superstring the LHC generated went too, we`ve been looking for that, glad we found it, what with all the expense of the repairs from when it got loose etc, justifies the cost somewhat.

  79. This will set them off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear God. Please, nobody tell the Electric Universe nut-jobs.

  80. Re:Oh make up your mind, scientists! by soundguy · · Score: 1

    I prefer the true word of Dog: "Throw the ball! Throw the ball! Throw the ball!"

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  81. How good a picture is it? by zmollusc · · Score: 1

    Is it a ribbon, or the hem of The Great White Handkerchief?

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  82. Re:Cosmic caring by MRe_nl · · Score: 1

    No it's yellow as in
    "Tie a yellow ribbon round the Yggdrasil"

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    "Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
  83. ... this ribbon existed — or what has create by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... or rather who has created it.

  84. Electric universe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If electric universe theory is correct, the sun is the anode and the heliosheath is the cathode in the plasma system we call our solar system. The sun, then, derives some of its power externally from the greater universe. The theory seems to be backed by more and more evidence.

  85. shocking new result? really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we don't even know who is hiding behind the mooon!!

  86. Quite SIMPLE. Solar Sneeze. by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

    Sol, when the first nuclear explosion occurred, released a large snezonic boom. This is where the word "Sneeze" comes from.

    After that, there were a few more. One blew all of the oxygen away from Mars. Another left a bunch of particles in Earth's atmosphere, effectively ending the reign of the dinosaurs.

    If you people would just think about this, GHHHHAWD!

    *snort*

  87. No, just no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    religion tells you how to live your life

    ...

    you are being phobic of a harmless word: "religion"

    No, that certainly doesn't sound like a harmless word to me... Quite the opposite. Reminds me of one of my favorite quotations.

    Morality means doing what is right regardless of what you are told. Religion means doing what you are told regardless of what is right.

    Religion is always about something else telling you how to live your life and what thoughts are right. In addition, this "something else" is an unproven, supernatural entity.

    if you reject all traditional religion's codes of conduct, that doesn't mean you are nonreligious, it just means you follow your own unique religion. if you claim to follow no code of conduct, this is a religion as well.

    Now you are horribly mixing religion, philosophy and morals together as they all meant the same things. They are different words for a reason: They have different meanings.

    how peaceful and prosperous a society is is pretty much directly proportional to how many people get that essential separation about science and religion in their cognition

    It is true but it is also funny that separation of the two also directly correlates with how loosely people let religion dictate their life in a given society.

  88. religion is about self-emergent phenonomena by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Troll

    religion says what truth is in spite of reality, and as a brute act of faith, turns what it believes into reality.

    all science tells you is static things: how things react. science never tells you, and can never tell you, about the consequences of the proactive forces of mankind's ambitions. mankind is a creative force, he does not adapt to the environment like other animals, he adapts the environment to him

    so what do you create? religion tells you how and what to create of societies and the world. a lot of what current religions say on the subject sucks. but any answer to the question: so what do we make of this thing called life? is an act of religiosity that you are undertaking, regardless of how much you dislike traditional organized religion. in other words, you need to draw a line between your animosity between traditional religiosity and your own religious-type thinking, and realize that they all fall under the same semantic umbrella: you are a religious person. and you can be a religious person, and have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with traditional religions

    what does a guy do with his life is a question science can never answer, because science is all about inert, static inanimate phenomena, only about reactions in the natural world. it says nothing, and can forever more say nothing, out of a simple consequence of what the definition of science is, about what mankind should do with his existence. that's where religion comes in: it defines self-emergent phenomena of mankind in groups that in turn eventually shapes the natural world

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    intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
  89. you're not saying anything by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Troll

    you're arguing about word definitions. moving around semantics is a not a useful debate. say something conceptual, or say nothing at all, as the sum total of your comment is nothing but a bunch of grammatical legalistic posturing

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    intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
    1. Re:you're not saying anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh he is saying something alright.

      Just pull your head out of your ass and you might understand it.

  90. Yellow? by macraig · · Score: 1

    If that sucker is yellow and vibrating in such a way that it produces something that sounds eerily like Tony Orlando, we're in trouble!

  91. Swirly Thing Alert!! by billstewart · · Score: 1

    Hey, give Red Dwarf some props as well!

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  92. Predicted! by Steeltoe · · Score: 1

    Sadly, this is Slashdot at its finest.

    This ribbon reminds me of many stories on the now defunct Spiritweb, talking about the solar system entering a ribbon of energy particles in recent times, which accelerates our understanding of the universe. Basically, this is a cyclical happening about (every 25.000 years or something IIRC) based on the Solar System's orbit within the Galaxy. Quite startling to read about this now, and if this ribbon is stationary compared to the solar system, is 1-0 to Spiritweb channelings/rantings.

    The channelings even mentioned this would soon be discovered by scientists, but I didn't pay too much attentioned that then..

  93. Re:Cosmic caring by peipas · · Score: 1

    Georgia-Pacific has it spot on if the spirit of awareness month is to irritate individuals into action. The breast cancer-aware Quilted Northern toilet paper packages contain rolls of diminished width and I've been inspired into submitting feedback of disdain via the Contact Us form on the Georgia-Pacific website.

  94. uh-oh ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen these before, they paint tags on the trees in our local forests, indicating which year that tree is designated for "termination". This one is probably scheduling us for "processing" in 2012. You have been warned, and the notice isn't filed in the bottom drawer of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory with a "beware of the leopard" sign on the door, it's in plain view. Get out now!!!

  95. so-- you mean by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    "So long, and thanks for all the fish"?

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  96. Interesting Point by ITJC68 · · Score: 1

    I may have missed a previous comment but have the theorists considered that possibly when both Voyager spacecraft went beyond the solar system they poked a hole causing this phenomena? The article does say it seems to be between where both of the Voyager spacecraft exited the solar system. It would be a sick fate if they cause a reaction that would destroy said universe?

  97. "In fact, the mysterious "ribbon" appears in every by Killgore9998 · · Score: 1

    ..single one of these photos..

    Oh, dammit Johnson, will you get your finger off the lens please?"

  98. i understood what he said by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Troll

    he understood what i said

    but he think its more important to debate the defintion of words. stupid

    its the mark of small mind: posture about word definitions rather than articulate a concept

    still it is a lot better than sniping pointlessly as an anonymous coward

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    intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
  99. Looks like someone hit a nerve... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tag this... startrekgenerations (Score:5, Funny)
    Ribbon?... Bill Gates thought that he was being innovative. Who'd have guessed that God came up with it first? (Score:5, Funny)
    Widespread Reach... The universe patched to 1.2, introducing Ribbon controls, because they collapse and expand in a visually appealing fashion. This helps the overlords better manage their multi-dimension MDI. (Score:5, Funny)
    be careful... It's good we discovered this early on. If we were already launching interstellar ships, there's a very real danger that at least one crew member's latent ESP abilities would start to run amok after their ship tried entering the ribbon. And, even worse, it'd probably be one of the ship captain's oldest friends. (Score:5, Funny)
    The Note... "Please wear this ribbon on your planetary system in order to help us raise awareness. Awareness is such a precious commodity in galaxies of all colors, shapes and sizes, that we feel it only proper to honor the awareness that is within us all by taking this opportunity to mark those systems with nascent awarenesses with a ribbon. Hopefully by comparing our pre-aware planetary systems we can come to appreciate our own awareness and the source of that awareness, whatever form you may believe that it takes. Remember, it takes a spiral arm to raise a planetary system. Thank you again for raising awareness with this ribbon." (Score:5, Funny)

    But mention the dreaded "G" word...