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Intel Says Brain Implants Could Control Computers By 2020

Lucas123 writes "Scientists at Intel are working on developing sensors that would be implanted in a person's head in order to harness brain waves that could then be used to control computers, televisions, cell phones and other electronic equipment. Intel has already used Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (FMRI) machines to determine that blood flow changes in specific areas of the brain based on what word or image someone is thinking of. People tend to show the same brain patterns for similar thoughts. 'Eventually people may be willing to be more committed ... to brain implants. Imagine being able to surf the Web with the power of your thoughts.' said Intel research scientist Dean Pomerleau."

314 comments

  1. Let me know when... by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can get direct neural input from the Playboy channel.

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    1. Re:Let me know when... by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are out of luck. I would suggest leaving Mom's basement and getting a little sun and perhaps actually talking to some girls. You'll get results faster that way. Trust me; it works. It does require the Social Interaction plugin for your Operating System, but that is freely available and has been for millennia.

    2. Re:Let me know when... by Cryacin · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd do that, but I heard that girlfriend 2.0 is incompatible with wife 1.0. It has to be uninstalled first, and eventually girlfriend 2.0 will auto-upgrade to wife 2.0 anyway.

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    3. Re:Let me know when... by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 2, Funny

      I found that the cocky douchebag plugin also helps a lot for this type of function. In fact, if you combine the DirectErect Browser with the NoPersonality add on and the FeelingBlock privacy protection add on you can navigate almost all of the social intrawebs without guilt/remorse/ or a second thought attacks. Of course, for real protection it is a good idea to download a third party security application like RubberCover or TrojanPlus. If you couple these with the applications like UIDRing or ThePill you are almost 100% protected against unwanted/unexpected child-development attacks.

      Really if you are going to encourage the poor young man to expose his virgin soul to the RealWorld2.0 you should give him some good security advice while you're at it. Of course, as we all know, security is a mindset not a product. And for the ultimate defense it is best to keep an air gap between your local Genital-Net and the general Social-Webz. ;)

    4. Re:Let me know when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's the ultimate virus:

      * Computers learn to browse the net based on your thoughts
      * Average guy things about sex how often? Every 5 minutes?
      * How many guys in the average office within "sensor" distance of several computers?

      No one can use their computer anymore: it's All pr0n, all the time.

    5. Re:Let me know when... by grcumb · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can get direct neural input from the Playboy channel.

      I can't imagine this being a good thing:

      YOU: browsing slashdot over coffee.

      [Stunning, sultry woman walks up.]

      SHE: Excuse me, can you tell me the time?

      YOUR BROWSER: [displays top 10 porntube results for stunning, sultry women.]

      SHE: You sick fuck!

      ...

      JUDGE: I sentence you to 6 months at Pumpinhole State Penitentiary.

      YOUR BROWSER: [displays goat.se]

      The phrase 'Try to think of baseball' has never been more important.

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    6. Re:Let me know when... by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually there is a Tor-like project that seeks to enable Girlfriend 2.0 while allowing Wife 1.0 to remain unaware. We need your help! Join us!

    7. Re:Let me know when... by von_rick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... it's All pr0n, all the time.

      You say like its a bad thing.

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    8. Re:Let me know when... by Serenissima · · Score: 1

      I've heard some random statistic that every 30 seconds, men think about sex. It's probably bullshit, but I wouldn't be surprised if porn sites got increased traffic every 30 seconds! :)

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    9. Re:Let me know when... by GameMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course some old stand-byes (Margarette Thatcher on a cold day) won't work as expected in those situations...

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    10. Re:Let me know when... by rockNme2349 · · Score: 1

      Don't underestimate the perversion of our gender.

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    11. Re:Let me know when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a paper on that? I don't believe anything unless there has been a paper published.

    12. Re:Let me know when... by ChefInnocent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ah, but see his method probably comes with continuous instant gratification without all the downsides associated with actual girls. And as long as he stays plugged in, he will likely get the same positive sensations as the real thing. It does however mean the end of his line, but without the social Interaction plugin, his line was likely non-propagating anyway.

    13. Re:Let me know when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me guess, it uses an apartment threading model?

    14. Re:Let me know when... by Serenissima · · Score: 1

      You're right, better change it to every 15 seconds ;)

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    15. Re:Let me know when... by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Playboy Says Breast Implants Could Control Brain Implants by 2025.

    16. Re:Let me know when... by Crudely_Indecent · · Score: 3, Funny

      I guess you haven't seen Farm Sluts

      (queue Twilight Zone theme song)

      Imagine if you will, a world where technology can be controlled by thought. A man enters a building for a job interview, suddenly all computers begin displaying busty blondes, brunettes, redheads and a sheep. He thought it was just an interview, but his gutter mind has turned it into - The Porn Zone

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    17. Re:Let me know when... by assert(0) · · Score: 1

      Actually it's worse than that. Every 30 seconds, men think about something completely unrelated to sex. It's been tagged WONTFIX upstream for aeons.

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    18. Re:Let me know when... by noidentity · · Score: 1

      No, really, I have a direct neural input from the Playboy channel just for the articles.

    19. Re:Let me know when... by MacOS_Rules · · Score: 2, Funny

      P2OPP ?

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    20. Re:Let me know when... by Krneki · · Score: 1

      Actually there is a Tor-like project that seeks to enable Girlfriend 2.0 while allowing Wife 1.0 to remain unaware. We need your help! Join us!

      Just use Hijackthis and remove Wife 1.0 bloatware,

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    21. Re:Let me know when... by daem0n1x · · Score: 1

      I would suggest leaving Mom's basement and getting a little sun and perhaps actually talking to some girls.

      Don't do it. I tried that and got married. Now I'm back in the basement and the Playboy channel again.

    22. Re:Let me know when... by daem0n1x · · Score: 1

      No, but it's in Wikipedia.

    23. Re:Let me know when... by fbjon · · Score: 1

      You say like its a bad thing.

      Imagine a gay porn popup storm, except fuelled by your mental imagery, and triggered by goatse.

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    24. Re:Let me know when... by vegiVamp · · Score: 1

      Can you run multiple independant instances of Girlfriend 2.0 with it ?

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    25. Re:Let me know when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, right. i can has cheezburger

    26. Re:Let me know when... by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Still it needs a dependency of Guilt 0.87beta. It can be replaced by Jerk 1.0 or Self absorption 3.0 however they tend to conflict with some versions of Growing Up Lessons that tend to be required for a lot of other apps, including ones that includes make money. Which allows any version of Girlfriend to work.

      Man it is dependency hell.

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    27. Re:Let me know when... by 2names · · Score: 1

      Yeah you know me...

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    28. Re:Let me know when... by 2names · · Score: 1

      Only if your installations of GF2.0 have the stable version of the Adult_Behaviour module compiled in.

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    29. Re:Let me know when... by vishbar · · Score: 1

      They let you post on Slashdot, Hans?

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    30. Re:Let me know when... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Playboy Says Breast Implants Could Control Brain Implants by 2025.

      Breast implants already control many normal brains now.

      We don't need to wait until 2025. :-P

      Cheers

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  2. But Unfortunately... by spun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Computer implants will control brains by 2019.

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    1. Re:But Unfortunately... by thhamm · · Score: 2, Funny

      Implants Could Control Computers By 2020
      Computer implants will control brains by 2019.

      Now i'm confused. What will control what in Soviet Russia then, and when exactly?

    2. Re:But Unfortunately... by rastilin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Computer implants will control brains by 2019.

      Yeah, that's why I'd never trust anything that could potentially write directly to my brain. Some sort of helmet thing might be uncomfortable, but at least you can rip it off if they (trojans / hackers / foreign agents) start getting frisky with your mind. Presuming that you have enough motor control left to do the ripping. Perhaps a panic button; hooked up to bladder control or something. (only partly joking)

      Controlling machines with thought is brilliant though, and I'm all for it. Presuming that the thing doing the controlling does feedback through skin responses or a HUD on an external display.

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    3. Re:But Unfortunately... by Garridan · · Score: 4, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, 2020 controls 2019 by computer implants!

    4. Re:But Unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      80 % of American citizens think the worlds going to end before then

    5. Re:But Unfortunately... by thhamm · · Score: 5, Funny

      Choke on that, causality!

    6. Re:But Unfortunately... by aldld · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our new brain implant overlords.

    7. Re:But Unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah, that's why I'd never trust anything that could potentially write directly to my brain.

      Your fear prevents you from evolving.

      Direct neural communication between groups of humans (and augmented by computers) would produce a thinking, conscious being who's cognitive capacities are a step above that of a human (in the same sense that human cognition is a step above that of monkeys).

      This pattern is not new. Single-celled organisms formed cell colonies, which were an evolutionary step up, only after they opened their membranes to each other to allow direct chemical communication. Cell colonies accepted similar levels of integration in the formation of tissues, organs, and gargantuanly huge interconnected ecologies (specifically, humans).

      Allowing direct neural reads and writes is the natural continuation of this pattern. Your fear will prevent you from taking this evolutionary step up. You will eventually sit in a zoo throwing dung at tourists, while the true visionaries reach beyond the stars.

       

    8. Re:But Unfortunately... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      The Innovative Statistics branch of the Centre for Incomplete Studies says that 24% of those

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    9. Re:But Unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps a panic button

      What kind of nerd are your? That flies right in the face of DON'T PANIC!

    10. Re:But Unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We can protect it so it needs to do "sudo write -brain" instead.
      We'll only need to pay MS royalties.

    11. Re:But Unfortunately... by Metasquares · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, brain implants will control YOU.

    12. Re:But Unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your fear will prevent you from taking this evolutionary step up. You will eventually sit in a zoo throwing dung at tourists, while the true visionaries reach beyond the stars.

      No, he will not, because gear or not - resistance is futile, he will be assimilated...

    13. Re:But Unfortunately... by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's why I'd never trust anything that could potentially write directly to my brain. Some sort of helmet thing might be uncomfortable, but at least you can rip it off if they (trojans / hackers / foreign agents) start getting frisky with your mind. Presuming that you have enough motor control left to do the ripping. Perhaps a panic button; hooked up to bladder control or something. (only partly joking)

      Explain to me how potentially "writing directly to your brain" is functionally any different than manipulation through the control of information? Advertising works because when you advertise, people buy your shit. You might find this fact annoying, but it's true, and it's one of a million examples of human manipulation therefrom.

      For another example, see "Ditto-Head" Rush Limbaugh supporter/worshippers. They are convinced that gubbmint can't do anything but tax and waste money. Listen to them! Never mind the "free society" protected by that very gubbmint...

      You are already manipulated and controlled for fun and profit, and it's part of the social animals that is who we actually are.

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    14. Re:But Unfortunately... by machine321 · · Score: 1

      I loved the movie The President's Analyst !

    15. Re:But Unfortunately... by rastilin · · Score: 1

      Explain to me how potentially "writing directly to your brain" is functionally any different than manipulation through the control of information?

      They can make you dream their products in your sleep like in "Transmetropolitan", as well as generally being a massive nuisance ten thousand times worse than any advertising today. That's the tame example. Your examples aren't being controlled exclusively, they're being manipulated; but they can choose to break their manipulation in a short period of time by alternating their sources. Advertisers can cajole, beg, plead, but they can't make you; because they don't control your mind.

      Alternatively, remember all those stories about spouses hacking into their significant other's machine to poke around or just for petty revenge. Any device that can change your mental state can probably mess you up if someone alters the internal logic. It would be similar to having a networked pacemaker. If you're a fan of sci-fi, you'll recognize "Down and out in the magic kingdom". Or better yet, the novel "Feed"; a protester releases a tame worm that temporarily incapacitates it's targets, to teach them the folly of technology. A minor coding error in the application means that on certain low end implants, it kills people. As I said, networked pacemaker.

      I base my paranoia on the haphazard way security is implemented today. If anyone keeps up with The Daily WTF, they'll know that many companies don't even implement basic security principles; much less prepare for theoretical and unproven attacks. The recent article on the sidewinder? missile accident shows that even military technology isn't 100% bug proof. You could argue that the devices will be totally safe, because the programmers will be sure to take additional care with them, since human lives are at stake... I would pose... on what experience would you say that?

      Of course, even if we did have mentally altering implants, most people will be totally fine. It's just the minority that will experience significant problems. Much like driving. My preference for having inputs go through skin channels or a HUD is my version of seat belts.

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    16. Re:But Unfortunately... by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Fuck evolving. I wouldn't put a brain implant from Intel in or on my head. Suddenly I'd be doing math all wrong.

    17. Re:But Unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I said the same exact thing to members of my LUG on this subject. On my head (little conductive cream on the temples perhaps) with Biofeedback contacts (wireless by the time we got this sophisticated with the hardware interface) sure. "IN" my head...pick a cheek and bite my ass!!! I mentioned it a moment ago, BIOFEEDBACK! Try converting the existing interfaces we already have (removable adhesive contact pads wired to a PC). The means of contact is non-invasive (or permanent), and can end the moment you decide to terminate the session. As to the efficacy, having been to many such sessions, I can say that "I" believe it has merit. And when combined with many yogic principles (breathe control, concentration) works wonders on your overall sense of being.

      In any case, I believe the introduction of neural-implants would ultimately mean the end of the concept of personal freedom. Such sophisticated hardware must cost astronomical sums of money. That being the case, the manufacturers would most likely subsidize the cost by selling "commercial thought time" (any number of commercials totaling about 8 hrs a day) to media corporations. It would only be a matter of time before some schmuck figured out how to hack people's bioware, or Starbucks bought the right to pump commercials into your cerebral cortex, and you would have no choice in the matter.

      -The Mgt

    18. Re:But Unfortunately... by Krneki · · Score: 1

      Computer implants will control brains by 2019.

      Yeah, that's why I'd never trust anything that could potentially write directly to my brain. Some sort of helmet thing might be uncomfortable, but at least you can rip it off if they (trojans / hackers / foreign agents) start getting frisky with your mind. Presuming that you have enough motor control left to do the ripping. Perhaps a panic button; hooked up to bladder control or something. (only partly joking)

      Controlling machines with thought is brilliant though, and I'm all for it. Presuming that the thing doing the controlling does feedback through skin responses or a HUD on an external display.

      Your brains are already hacked on daily base. The exploit is called advertising. The best part is, you don't even know your needs are implanted.

      Have a nice holiday.

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    19. Re:But Unfortunately... by rastilin · · Score: 1

      Your brains are already hacked on daily base. The exploit is called advertising. The best part is, you don't even know your needs are implanted. Have a nice holiday.

      Considering that you've duped a comment (the only comment) made to my other post; I'd say that you're the one with the meme infestation.

      Except the other guy did it better.

      Have a nice holiday ;)

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    20. Re:But Unfortunately... by omuls+are+tasty · · Score: 3, Funny

      You never learn, do you? You'll never win while Capt. Picard is around!

    21. Re:But Unfortunately... by Nathrael · · Score: 1

      No, that's already 1984 Oceania.

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    22. Re:But Unfortunately... by Krneki · · Score: 1

      LOL P.S. Thanks. :)

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    23. Re:But Unfortunately... by RichardJenkins · · Score: 1

      Dude, that's how the BORG got started. Are you saying you want to be THE BORG?

    24. Re:But Unfortunately... by pwfffff · · Score: 1

      Yeah, good idea. I mean without a direct neural interface, evil people would never be able to write things like an image of a man with a gaping anus into your brain right?

      By the way, have you met my friend goatse?

    25. Re:But Unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just build a hat out of tin foil to block communication with the chip.

    26. Re:But Unfortunately... by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      What if the Buddhists are right? Life IS suffering...

      Now you won't be able to turn a blind eye to this, and you'll die... it'll look like that really bad Markie Mark movie...

    27. Re:But Unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seen Neon Genesis Evangelion lately, didn't you?

    28. Re:But Unfortunately... by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      You will eventually sit in a zoo throwing dung at tourists

      Hold on, I am failing to see how that is a bad situation to be in....

    29. Re:But Unfortunately... by wiremind · · Score: 2, Informative

      the borg are a badly thought out sci-fi plot device, nothing more.

      If a group of people got together and made it possible to experience everything everyone in the group heard/thought/felt, they would be a democracy where the majority always rules. your views and values would not change, they would be shared throughout the group. If a group of humans formed a borg collective they would maintain their humanity, and probably even hold each other to a higher standard through peer pressure.

      Star trek Borg are not a collective, they are a subservient dictatorship.

    30. Re:But Unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with your ideas (as a long term goal for society), but the GP brings up legitimate concerns. Given the state of computer security today, you shouldn't be so dismissive of his "fear". What stops someone from DDoSing your brain, for example? There are clearly many issues that would need to be worked out.

    31. Re:But Unfortunately... by LrdDimwit · · Score: 1

      If you don't do what the voice in the implant tells you to do, you get a raging headache and are unable to sleep until you comply. When you try to tell anyone what's happening, it "accidentally" gives you a small seizure. See the difference now?

  3. But my intel drivers don't work on my pc NOW! by stagg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the spirit of XKCD, should I get the chip installed in my brain and wait until Linux patches in support? Or wait for an Open Source alternative?

    1. Re:But my intel drivers don't work on my pc NOW! by igny · · Score: 4, Funny

      Depends on how open your mind is.

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    2. Re:But my intel drivers don't work on my pc NOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so far the current kernel has native support for intel, in the spirit of the article, you should be good (assuming intel isn't going anywhere).

    3. Re:But my intel drivers don't work on my pc NOW! by von_rick · · Score: 1

      Most human brains I've known don't function well beyond 4-bit data. Intel will have to dumb down their processors/controllers to 4-bit to accommodate human brains.

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    4. Re:But my intel drivers don't work on my pc NOW! by Tanman · · Score: 1

      Brains have bad security no matter the O/S. I can already hack one.

    5. Re:But my intel drivers don't work on my pc NOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      should I get the chip installed in my brain and wait until Linux patches in support? Or wait for an Open Source alternative?

      Another high-UID poster proves that he isn't a nerd and shouldn't be posting here. A real nerd would have said "I'm going to get the chip installed, then write a Linux patch to support it".

      Sign of the times, I suppose - too many people here think that being a nerd is downloading Ubuntu and pirating music.

    6. Re:But my intel drivers don't work on my pc NOW! by peragrin · · Score: 1

      4 bit data but the human brain parallels 4 bits 32 times. In reality we don't fully understand how the brain works for storage, or even things like visual processing. Something like facial recognition is easy for he puny human brain but no computer has yet to be able to do so reliably.

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    7. Re:But my intel drivers don't work on my pc NOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brains have bad security no matter the O/S. I can already hack one.

      That's the problem with you socially maladjusted nerds -- the clever post put up by igny should have ended the discussion but you came in and added absolutely nothing of value to the thread. For the record, this message has a purpose -- educating losers like you.

    8. Re:But my intel drivers don't work on my pc NOW! by pwfffff · · Score: 1

      Haha check it out, this nerd thinks he's fulfilling a purpose by posting on slashdot. Way to prove how cool you are bropal.

  4. Just wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... a year or two after and we'll have the kind that doesn't require implants. I'll be in that camp.

  5. Please don't... by thewils · · Score: 1

    ...wire the nuclear plant directly into Homer's brain.

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    1. Re:Please don't... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Mmmmm, Forbidden plutonium.

  6. Oh well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Good thing the world is ending in 2012

  7. Last Thing I Want by Nautical+Insanity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    is someone trying to figure out a way to get advertising into my mind. We all know someone is going to try.

    Fortunately, feeding input directly into the brain is more difficult that reading output from it.

    1. Re:Last Thing I Want by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Got to look out for those feedback loops.

    2. Re:Last Thing I Want by MozeeToby · · Score: 2, Funny

      I know what you mean, ever since I woke up in the future I've been having these recuring dreams about Lightspeed Briefs (tm).

    3. Re:Last Thing I Want by EdZ · · Score: 2, Informative

      Fortunately, feeding input directly into the brain is more difficult that reading output from it.

      Not really. It's easily (ish) to stimulate a neuron externally using optical stimulation, but to read that state of that cell currently requires either implanting an electrode into the cell (generally shortens the lifespanof the cell to a few hours/minutes), or stimulating the cell to grow an axon onto a suitable biocompatable electrode (some research in this direction, no reliable results as of yet).

    4. Re:Last Thing I Want by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      Please God no!

      I already have nightmares about Snuggies and ShamWows carrying me off into the night. The last thing I want is more product presence on my mind!

      Though, on second thought, the dreams with Erin Esurance aren't all that bad ....

    5. Re:Last Thing I Want by rockNme2349 · · Score: 1

      Well sure you can pay tens of thousands of dollars for a neural implant, but I'd go for the free ad supported one.

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    6. Re:Last Thing I Want by Bootarn · · Score: 1
      From the article:

      He is a prime candidate for an operation to implant electrodes and minicomputer in his brain to control the seizures.

      I'd love to se a man with a PDP-11 sticking out of his skull.

    7. Re:Last Thing I Want by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      With those big heavy enclosures which slid out of the 19 inch racks you had to slide out extra legs to keep the whole thing balanced. We had a CPU box and an expansion box for IO and normally you only slid one out at a time.

      Working on the back plane involved sliding the CPU box out then lying on the floor under it to unscrew the bottom cover. So yes, I could have wound up with a PDP-11/84 sticking out of my skull. The 11/83 was much safer to work on.

    8. Re:Last Thing I Want by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      It's easily (ish) to stimulate a neuron externally using optical stimulation

      That's clearly cheating, since we've been doing that without knowing it was what we were doing for millenia. ;)

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    9. Re:Last Thing I Want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They already can use low frequency sound waves for that one.

      http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/22746/

    10. Re:Last Thing I Want by Krneki · · Score: 1

      is someone trying to figure out a way to get advertising into my mind. We all know someone is going to try.

      Fortunately, feeding input directly into the brain is more difficult that reading output from it.

      Just install Adblock Plus brain plugin.

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    11. Re:Last Thing I Want by Nautical+Insanity · · Score: 1

      You make a good point. However, I meant that getting useful input is more difficult than getting useful output. It's possible to tell someone to think of clicking a mouse, measure and store the brain patterns, and then program a computer to recognize those patterns as a click. Any inconsistency can be corrected by the user, who should be able to train themselves to recreate the "click" thought.

      Now compare that with the ability to implant an image into someone's mind. Achieving that requires a far deeper understanding of not just the brain, but the particular brain of the subject.

    12. Re:Last Thing I Want by carvalhao · · Score: 1

      I am not a neurosomething, but what we've been seeing seems to indicate differently. The brain is hugely adaptable on it's own to new input sources, as we have been shown by the hability do adapt do hearing and sight replacement devices. The systems we have for reading thoughts are nowhere nearly as adaptable to our individual differences.

  8. Quick, someone high five me! by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Informative

    First Lasers, and soon brain implants! Today is full of win! Its the effin Future!

    1. Re:Quick, someone high five me! by Idiomatick · · Score: 4, Funny

      *high fives*

      Man you must have aids or something no one was willing to highfive you over half an hour.

  9. So what else is new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't fool yourself. Most brains are already fairly well controlled by TV, government, religion, group-think, etc. Take your pick.

    If someone does develop a computer implant that can control a brain, it would only be an upgrade to the tools, not to the results.

    1. Re:So what else is new? by taucross · · Score: 1

      That's why they say television programs.

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    2. Re:So what else is new? by lxs · · Score: 1

      Congratulations for making that post without using the word "sheeple". Now take off that AFDB and join us. You know you want to.

  10. Skynet? by LuminaireX · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The implants will control brains in 2021.

  11. Peter Hamilton Sci-Fi by SgtAaron · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm sure he's not the only Sci-Fi author to have put these ideas into fiction. I had a great time reading his Neutronium Alchemist novels and others and seeing his description of how mind/computer interfaces could function.

    I think it's a lot more realistic than Star Trek (gasp :) to imagine that future spacers will be sitting on an acceleration couch with their eyes closed--and seeing space around them as if they were outside, than to be sitting at a console with hundreds of controls, relying on the speed of electrons traveling through meat. And I loved their ability to superimpose heads-up displays onto their vision. I suppose I'm getting beyond the scope of this story...

    -Aaron

    1. Re:Peter Hamilton Sci-Fi by MozeeToby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, I think Alastair Reynolds's vision is even more accurate: Such mind/computer interfaces exist, but the vast majority of people don't use them because they fear catching a nanotech virus and those that use them to the fullest are so distanced from the rest of humanity that wars are fought over the sanctity of the mind. The idea of a computer connecting directly up to my brain... well, I hope security technology improves by a couple orders of magnitude before that comes about.

    2. Re:Peter Hamilton Sci-Fi by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... Neuromancer was written by William Gibson in 1984 and describes brain-computer interfaces (and more).

    3. Re:Peter Hamilton Sci-Fi by Hybrid-brain · · Score: 0

      Local seattle author, Syne Mitchell explores the idea of implants connected with technology The Changeling Plague TechnoGenesis (if you want a good version of what a future with implants looks like, this is a must read) The Last Mortal Man (three books, awesome series, another implant book)

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    4. Re:Peter Hamilton Sci-Fi by rossdee · · Score: 1

      Arthur C Clarke, the braincap, 3001

    5. Re:Peter Hamilton Sci-Fi by kostmo · · Score: 1

      One of my favorites is Feed by M. T. Anderson. It describes just the kind of dystopian future of direct-brain advertising that one of the above posts anticipates. An interesting part of the book is how private instant-messaging is used, being functionally equivalent to telepathy.

    6. Re:Peter Hamilton Sci-Fi by c_sd_m · · Score: 1

      I don't know, Niven & Pournelle's approach in Oath of Fealty (1982) seems more (short-term) realistic: People don't have them because only the rich can afford them. But they're such a significant advantage in business that you pretty much need one above a certain level. Either get lucky (rich parents, lottery, whatever), try to slowly earn one yourself, or suck up to your boss so he'll decide you're worth it.

      It's a connection into a single central computer so it feels off compared to current tech. But at least one person stops trusting it due to potential terrorist infiltration and tries to figure out how to make decisions without it again. Until then people just trust it, taking the advantages without considering the potential consequences.

    7. Re:Peter Hamilton Sci-Fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anne McCaffrey was writing such stories, with spaceship pilots hardwired directly into their ships, in the late 60's -- when Reynolds, Gibson, AND Hamilton were still in diapers (either literally or figuratively)

    8. Re:Peter Hamilton Sci-Fi by TrentTheThief · · Score: 1

      Characters in L. Neil Smith's series of books set in his North American Confederation used small nano computer implants. More ram, multi-threaded, multi-processors, applications...

      I'm ready. Open skull insert hardware here!

  12. Why implants? by BobMcD · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why do people insist on looking towards devices that need to be surgically implanted to operate?

    Sure the interface is more difficult when it is outside the skull, but the barriers to adoption would be much lower also, would they not? Not to mention support, upgrades, product life cycle, etc.

    Are they really that shortsighted?

    1. Re:Why implants? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why do people insist on looking towards devices that need to be surgically implanted to operate?

      In theory, the bandwidth is huge. You just can't do as much with the gear you have that's adapted for life on the Serengeti.

      But, a skullcap is certainly the line at which I add "Luddite" to my .sig - bandwidth isn't everything.

      The trick will be that those who do not accept the skullcaps will be at a tremendous competitive disadvantage in most economic measures. There may even need to be physical segregation of the populations.

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    2. Re:Why implants? by falckon · · Score: 1

      Not to mention some sort of a power source, unless they have ways of running it off of your body's energy.

    3. Re:Why implants? by davburns · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was thinking that, too.

      The oldest computer I have around is a 1990 Amiga 500; I mostly use new kit, of course. Anyone who gets an implant is going to be stuck with it pretty much for life, or commit to brain surgery every 3-5 years to install the newer one.

      On the other hand, a 'trode net or hat would seem doable; sign me up for that.

    4. Re:Why implants? by mishehu · · Score: 1

      I suppose somebody has a sick fantasy of being Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile.

    5. Re:Why implants? by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

      I could imagine having a socket installed such that hardware could be upgraded without re-opening the skull. USB has been around for almost 14 years now and is still used for many things today. Every 2-3 years seems like too much but I could definately see some people being willing to go under the knife every 10 years to upgrade the interface, especially if 'under the knife' means a 30 minute outpatient surgery (which, if millions of people are doing it, it would have to be). That would allow easy upgrades between socket upgrades, removal for sleeping/showering/swimming, re easy charging, even different hardware for different uses (a game machine, a work machine, etc), just swap out the plug.

    6. Re:Why implants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are already (extremely low power) glucose fuel cells, which can produce a (small) electric current from the sugars dissolved in your blood plasma.

      If we assume that these devices only need picowatts of power, due to being interfaced with very sensitive tissue (neurons), and may have a direct data connection through a hardware port someplace (and can tap broadcast power from the attached device this way) then we are all set.

      The glucose cells power the brain interface, while the ambilical powers the signal post processor.

      This way the only thing implanted is a pin grid array, a low power signal processor, and some glucose fuel cells.

      The implant would only serve as an interface to an external device, and would thus be far more user upgradeable for functionality. (Essentially, the equivilent of a USB port with a standard interface API, with all the meat and potatoes of the upgrade being external, and detachible, with their own power source.)

      Basically, you make the brain interface the client device, to the attachible hardware, and not the other way around. That way the brain interface does not need to provide power to the device.

      (Think, USB keyboard is powered by host controller with USB-- the proposed model the brain interface is the "keyboard", which is powered by the Device's "host", which has batteries. Initial communication and 'statefulness' of the interface is maintained by the very low power glucose cell array, so the brain doesnt go into shock every time a new 'controller' is attached, or detached. (There will be lots of time when no host is attached to the interface, and the brain needs constant stimulation from a sensory device or else it gets pissy. So, the glucose fuel cells and the low power signal processor generate a reference "no-op" signal when nothing is attached.)

    7. Re:Why implants? by Idiomatick · · Score: 1

      RFID doesn't need a power source in it...

    8. Re:Why implants? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      In theory it sounds good to have information pipped into your brain like the matrix, but in reality to form knowledge in your brain is an active biochemical process that takes a lot of energy and some time. Try it sometime, you can see this for yourself, if you study hard and pipe a bunch of info into your brain, you're going to be needing some food and rest. So if you are good at studying, you can already max out the bandwidth your brain has for learning new things.

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    9. Re:Why implants? by Idiomatick · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
      I though Piccard was saying he was "the cutest aboard". That all makes more sense now.

    10. Re:Why implants? by webmistressrachel · · Score: 0

      Somebody? More like everybody will, especially once the oh-so-sexy, oh-so-geeky Borg Queen (me!) steps up to the plate :P

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    11. Re:Why implants? by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know, some of us are getting damn tired of technology and the fast pace of life it provide. As much as I'm a technology geek, sometimes there is such as thing as "too much". Personally, I'm at my breaking point with the long work hours and complicated shit that's supposed to work, but doesn't.

      As for the Serengeti, I'm ready for a change back to my primal human roots. I have a feeling I'll be much happier and live longer with less daily stress! Time to go hunting...

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    12. Re:Why implants? by kenji.toyama · · Score: 1

      I would be a lab rat for such experiment. I think improving the human body is a nice idea to me. I'd love to have a memory card slot in my skull to be able to remember pretty much everything else that my brain can't. Or maybe an ALU to perform very fast calculations....

    13. Re:Why implants? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So if you are good at studying, you can already max out the bandwidth your brain has for learning new things.

      That assumes a few things though: that your occipital lobe is the highest bandwidth input possible, that visualizing symbols (words,numbers,etc.) is an efficient means of acquiring knowledge, that the brain couldn't learn faster if it had more efficient inputs, that direct memory creation isn't possible, and that your brain's wiring is optimal.

      I don't think we really know the answers to any of those yet.

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    14. Re:Why implants? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      That certainly gives new meaning to the line "Resistance is futile, Number One"

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    15. Re:Why implants? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      As for the Serengeti, I'm ready for a change back to my primal human roots.

      Don't worry, the economy is going to see to that anyway. I'm finishing up my greenhouse on Saturday.

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    16. Re:Why implants? by maxume · · Score: 1

      If such a thing existed, the bandwidth and such limitations would probably be in the direct part of the interface (the stuff that is wet), not in the hardware that helps it connect up to a computer.

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    17. Re:Why implants? by turing_m · · Score: 1

      The trick will be that those who do not accept the skullcaps will be at a tremendous competitive disadvantage in most economic measures. There may even need to be physical segregation of the populations.

      The bandwidth may be huge, but to what advantage? I find that in the vast majority of cases when using a computer, the bottleneck isn't my fingers and hands, or the nerves feeding or controlling them. The bottleneck is the time taken to figure out exactly what it is I want to do. For example, in the time it has taken me to type and edit what I have written so far I could have typed 9 times as many words if the words had been supplied to me pre-edited. Only if I were a 10wpm hunt and pecker would I really notice a difference. Having a direct neural-machine interface is going to help about as much as hooking up an NSLU2 to gigabit ethernet.

      A lot has transpired since the Serengeti. Hands (and associated neural wiring) have been with us since we were apes. Tool usage (including musical instruments) and construction since then has exploded, as has the selection pressure for dexterity. Same with writing, especially among certain subsets of humanity. I wouldn't underestimate the force of selective pressure for manual dexterity in the thousands of years of using our hands for all manner of things.

      I also find that I can think better when I am using my hands for output as opposed to speaking. There is no thinking overhead that I can detect when I type - I think things, they appear on the screen. Somewhat like firewire vs USB, my best guess is that our brain has dedicated circuits for translating thoughts to output through our hands/fingers. Since in my experience it is the thinking that limits the rate of output, any additional overhead (as I can remember reading about with Dragon products) is going to slow me down. Chances are good that with a direct neural-machine interface you would have to think certain thoughts to get the computer to do what you want, and there would be overhead associated with that.

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    18. Re:Why implants? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      What makes you think that the life of the hunter-gatherer is lower stress?

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    19. Re:Why implants? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Is there anybody who can type as fast as they think? I'm not a great typist, but I can hit 90, and I can think, oh, I dunno, 3x that? How fast can "The FedEx Guy" talk or a speed-reader read?

      But by economics, I mean, to be totally anachronistic - say you're a programmer in the world of skullcaps. Your employer wants you to learn Java. The 'capped programmer has the API's downloaded into his brain, as well as tons of example code that he remembers as having written. The regular programmer spends 3 years to get to the same point. As far as we know, the 'capped programmer can do something like this every day if he needs to. And who knows what kinds of brilliant insights will be possible with so much knowledge. Naturals can't even keep up, much less compete. 'Capped bosses won't want them, so they'll probably have to live amongst their own kind, to the extent that they're allowed to not be wiped out by vastly superior military technology.

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    20. Re:Why implants? by turing_m · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Interestingly, grandparent dealt with the input side and I raised similar objections for the output side.

      That assumes a few things though: that your occipital lobe is the highest bandwidth input possible, that visualizing symbols (words,numbers,etc.) is an efficient means of acquiring knowledge, that the brain couldn't learn faster if it had more efficient inputs, that direct memory creation isn't possible, and that your brain's wiring is optimal.

      Personally, I think that we'll have strong AI before we have the answers to any of those. And not because strong AI is easy, but because if we can understand the brain in the level necessary to do much of what you suggest might be possible, we can simulate it, and simulation will be much, much easier than rewiring by hand.

      Rewiring the brain to actually improve it - I doubt that would be possible outside of simulation. Direct memory creation - I'd like to see the mechanism proposed for this, as I would think that would be unworkable. More efficient inputs - again, all our ancestors from the time before we were mammals would have had eyes. That's a long time for evolution to come up with a highly efficient visual processing system and also, a visual system to general processing bus. I'd be surprised if a few electrodes are going to beat the existing, highly optimized system. Look at how fast we can visually process already. A good FPS player will notice lags of a few ms.

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    21. Re:Why implants? by Idiomatick · · Score: 1

      Goto 3:25 if you don't believe me... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6oUz1v17Uo

    22. Re:Why implants? by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      The oldest computer I have around is a 1990 Amiga 500; I mostly use new kit, of course. Anyone who gets an implant is going to be stuck with it pretty much for life, or commit to brain surgery every 3-5 years to install the newer one.

      "By 2020" is another way of saying "this technology is 10 years away"
      Then remember that "10 years away" has effectively become a cliche in the world of innovation.

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    23. Re: Why implants? by WiseWeasel · · Score: 1

      Personally, I predict that pre-speech recognition will be about as far as most people will be comfortable interfacing with their brains; at least you can somewhat control your pre-speech. Direct and comprehensive neural activity scanning raises much more privacy concerns, as much of it is involuntary, and it can yield much more personal information than semi-controlled (with training) pre-speech.

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    24. Re:Why implants? by tsm_sf · · Score: 1

      They have tons of free time. Seriously.

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    25. Re:Why implants? by compro01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Look at how fast we can visually process already. A good FPS player will notice lags of a few ms.

      Actually, a bunch of that is interpolation trickery. You'll see an object in motion further along its (predicted) path than it is when you're seeing it to compensate for lag. This works very well when the object is moving in a fairly linear manner, but if something unexpected happens, you'll see a sort of deja vu effect where it goes back to where it was a second ago. This phenomenon is responsible for a lot of bad referee calls in sports

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    26. Re:Why implants? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      "By 2020" is another way of saying "this technology is 10 years away"
      Then remember that "10 years away" has effectively become a cliche in the world of innovation.

      2020 is going to be a great year. Fusion. Holographic Storage. Duke Nukem Forever. Neural implants.

      I can't wait....

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    27. Re:Why implants? by arielCo · · Score: 1

      I'm wondering about complications with cheap / knock-off implants or a sloppy job by some hack, much like what happens with breast implants.

      Also, you can watch the first few minutes of Johnny Mnemonic (I don't know if the scene is in Gibson's original), where his friend Jane has fits because of her el-cheapo reflex boosting implants.

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    28. Re:Why implants? by catchy_handle · · Score: 1

      A good FPS player will notice lags of a few ms.

      The human ear is pretty good too, the average person should be able to hear a delay of this duration. Combine audio & visual inputs and now my screensaver is taking me places.

    29. Re:Why implants? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      I though Piccard was saying he was "the cutest aboard". That all makes more sense now.

      Well he was. Especially aboard the Borg Cube. But maybe he was just speaking his mind about the Enterprise, now that he was free of it.

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    30. Re:Why implants? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      No, look at it a different way: we have a rough idea of what is actually happening when you learn. Basically your brain is growing new connections between brain cells, new synapses and in some cases even new neurons.

      Building all this new stuff in the brain takes energy and nutrients. Now, not all learning takes place at the same rate, but if you ever get in that zone where you're just imbibing knowledge, you'll find that your brain becomes exhausted and you get hungry. It is in some ways similar to weight-lifting......for example, just as you lift weights one day and rest afterwords to give your body time to rebuild, spaced repetition is a good technique for learning a language. There are physical limits to how fast you can learn stuff.

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    31. Re:Why implants? by Tibia1 · · Score: 1

      Implants will never become popularized. Nanobots will be the first thing that will be introduced into every person's brain that can first afford it. A team of nanobots aiding the neurons while communicating with the internet is a little bit more useful than a clunky sensor that, as you mentioned, needs upgrading.

    32. Re:Why implants? by qazsedcft · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's a very widespread myth. Primitive people had to pretty much work from dawn to dusk every day in order to just barely survive. No weekends, no vacations, leisure time very limited because you have to prepare food, shelter, etc. It's only in highly advanced civilizations that people started having so much leisure time. Seriously.

    33. Re:Why implants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people, even among dedicated computer nerds, talk far faster than they can type. Whether they think as fast as they talk is up for debate, but there's no doubt the keyboard is a significant bottleneck in everyday text entry.

    34. Re:Why implants? by qazsedcft · · Score: 1

      You're probably suffering from future shock. Beware of false promises of those who would like to go back to more primitive times, however. You may be much better off embracing the newly emerging civilization instead.

    35. Re:Why implants? by turing_m · · Score: 1

      Is there anybody who can type as fast as they think? I'm not a great typist, but I can hit 90, and I can think, oh, I dunno, 3x that?

      I'm getting at the number of editing passes you make before you metaphorically hit "submit". Sure, maybe I can think 3x faster than I can type as well. But only 10% of the time I spend on writing something is spent on actually typing, so the upper limit of an efficiency increase to the brain-machine interface is 10%. The other 90% of the time is editing - rereading, thinking, correcting, rearranging, final review, preview, etc. None of that activity is limited by the keyboard.

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    36. Re:Why implants? by tsm_sf · · Score: 1

      If by widespread you mean "in all the textbooks", then yes.

      While it's true that you can't generalize too much when comparing societies living in different environments, you're forgetting that we still have (or, had until quite recently) several hunter-gatherer societies to actually study firsthand. This isn't speculation on prehistoric activity (although there's plenty of evidence there, too), it's based on observation and communication.

      But then you sound like you're more informed than the average person in regard to anthropology, so I'm wondering what you're basing your statement on. Particularly the "myth" part, since I have several studies sitting on my bookshelf right now that relate direct experience to the contrary.

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    37. Re:Why implants? by Burntfinger · · Score: 1

      My 16 year old daughter thinks you should save those books for fuel for your first winter. Until 2 years ago we lived traditionally (we're nekked red savage injuns)and while we're not degreed anthropologists I think we have a better handle on hunter gatherer societies than they do. Check out my Facebook profile and PLEASE, if you're really interested in our lifestyle contact me. I made our living for 15 of the last 17 years hunting, fishing, trapping, ricing, sugaring, making the 8 cords of wood it takes to get through a winter in Northern Wisconsin, and in another year we'll be moving back to.

    38. Re:Why implants? by tsm_sf · · Score: 1

      Well, I did say that you can't generalize too much. Your location and the amount of readily available food will make a huge difference. Someone living a more primitive lifestyle in the north will have different opportunities than a group of people living in a steamy PNG jungle.

      and while we're not degreed anthropologists I think we have a better handle on hunter gatherer societies than they do.

      That's sort of an ill-informed statement. You're comparing an in-depth knowledge of one mode of living with a broader view of many different lifestyles. You would certainly have different insights than a pure academic, but you also have to remember that a lot of these researchers spend years or even decades out in the field. Do their experiences count less because they write them down?

      I've really gotten into flint knapping recently, did you have the need or opportunity to do any sort of stone work? How far did you push the traditional lifestyle?

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    39. Re:Why implants? by Burntfinger · · Score: 1

      Starting from the end and working back (hey, I'm one of those "backward" people), I do know how to knap flint as well - and have the scars to prove it! The things I do best at are hunting, trapping, working hides (brain tanning and chemical tanning), making center seam moccasins and understanding animals. We lived in a tent from April till November. Did our cooking on an open fire, got water from a stream. Our house was two rooms, 26 x 26 on the outside, with an indoor hand pump and one propane light. We did have a car or truck for me to use to run traps, make doctor appointments, and go to powwows (Hey, we need some social life). There's a fundamental experiential difference between an anthropologist doing field work and me living traditional. I have yet to have an anthropologist actually lend a hand to help on the trap line or in the fur shed. They always seemed to know how to show up for meals though. Well, as long as they didn't know they were eating muskrat, coon, possum or some other furry woodland creature. My new wife says I could go much further but she had to attend a presentation today at the VA on treating PTSD in a culturally appropriate way, so she's wound up :) No, I don't think an anthropologist's experience is less valid because it's written down. What I do have a problem with is the cultural bias in the anthropologists I've met and read. Some of the best I've read are Frances Densmore's Ojibwe books. Her writing is factually accurate for the most part and totally lacking in perspective. In our culture the why is as important as the how. My mind is going so much faster than my fingers can type. I really enjoy talking to you and don't want to spew trite answers which are worse than no answers at all. Do you do historical reenactments? Before we moved to the city we used to do several rendezvous, reenactments of the pre 1840's fur trade. Most of them would love to have a flint knapper. I really appreciate your desire to live simply and would be glad to continue this discussion either here or in a more appropriate forum. I'm sure there's so much we could learn each other. Before moving back to the woods in 94, I cowboyed and rodeoed from 66-88, taking time out for a tour of beautiful SE Asia in 70. Please keep in touch.

  13. I love these 10 year predictions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cause look at what happened from 2000 - 2010 ....let me see: facebook, twitter, blogs...holy shit, we're going downhill fast.

  14. "I'm a Mac... by gdog05 · · Score: 2, Funny

    And I have computers that control brain implants." "I'm a PC, and I have brain implants that control a computer." Mac: "Good Luck with that."

    1. Re:"I'm a Mac... by SteveFoerster · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Trust me."

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      Mac. Think different?

  15. They just want this to plug the analog hole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And get this, whenever you are streaming full rez on the neural link, they shutdown your eyes and ears. And you don't want to know where they stick the dongle.

  16. What do men think? by Obble · · Score: 1

    What ever you do, dont think of a beautiful girl on a nudist beach. Now you will be force to control your thoughts, so think happy thoughts like flowers, puppies and little children, oops, not little children you pervert! This is a very bad idea to be able to surf like that imo.

  17. Only useful for recreational web surfing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This will be useless in a business setting. I don't know how I'm going to look up online documentation when my browser is always searching for pictures of Megan Fox.

  18. Not for me by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Imagine the damage a "keylogger" could do in a system like this.
    My mind is the last sanctuary I have left, and I'm not going to jeopardize it by connecting it into a system which can be easily tapped, read, and quite probably manipulated by an outside force.

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    1. Re:Not for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but our children will.

    2. Re:Not for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1996- I'll never connect my desktop permanently to the internet. My desktop is the last sanctuary I have left, and I'm not going to jeopardize it by connecting it into a system which can easily be tapped, read, and quite probably manipulated by an outside force.

      2003- I'll never post pictures of myself drunk on the internet. My privacy is the last sanctuary I have left, and I'm not going to jeopardize it by connecting it into a system which can easily be tapped, read, and quite probably manipulated by an outside force.

      etc, etc

    3. Re:Not for me by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 1

      Well, for what it's worth, I agree with those to...posting stupid pictures of myself on Facebook for anyone to see is definitely not on my to-do list. As for the first one, isn't that a major complaint about cloud computing? I don't trust Google to hold all my data for me, so I'll be keeping most of it (all the good stuff) local and safely hidden from prying eyes.

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    4. Re:Not for me by c_sd_m · · Score: 1

      But as long as it's done collectively it's okay? Or have you given up internet and TV already?

    5. Re:Not for me by Tibia1 · · Score: 1

      Image the damage one of these so called "automobiles" could do to me and my family. Sure, they are faster and every will use them, but think of the dangers!

    6. Re:Not for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I'd hardly refer to it as a sanctuary, our simple human brains are a cage we have yet to free ourselves of.

    7. Re:Not for me by JuzzFunky · · Score: 1

      My mind is the last sanctuary I have left

      This thought has been deemed inappropriate. Citizens are reminded of their duty to engage only in authorized thought patterns. All traces of this thought will be removed from your memory.

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  19. Imagine the popup spam. by unformed · · Score: 1

    You're reading some article on CNN and suddently these thoughts start going through your head:

    "Pills from Canada."
    "Everyone can buy a house! Get a no down payment mortgage today!"
    "Nigeria can make me rich."
    "I feel depressed."
    "Seen on Oprah Jr! Buy Dan Brown's Vampires and Wizards today!"

    1. Re:Imagine the popup spam. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Brought to you by Carl's Jr."

      -The Mgt

  20. Remember by cstdenis · · Score: 1

    Information wants to be free. That includes your memories. Once there are implants, some hacker will start freeing it.

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    1984 was not supposed to be an instruction manual.
    1. Re:Remember by zero0ne · · Score: 1

      I'd much rather have a blog with video footage of certain memories instead of having to lug around a video camera everywhere I go.

      Now I could see this causing problems for Politician X who just had an affair.

      Police would also have a much easier time: "Judge, all we are asking for is a search warrant on his memories between 2PM Friday and 6PM Saturday."

  21. Risk vs Reward? by Godskitchen · · Score: 1

    Seems like a question of risk vs reward to me... I doubt anyone is going to risk serious loss of function or death for the chance of being able to change the channel with their thoughts. Do we really need this? Now if this were something like an reborn 80s style math-co-processor for the brain, it might be something I would consider. The brain is optimized for symbolic reasoning, not pure number crunching. If I could do complex computations simply by thinking of them and having them routed to/from such a device... now, THAT is something I'd find intriguing.

    1. Re:Risk vs Reward? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your brain is incredibly optimised for pure number crunching. Walking across a room involves math as does picking something up or putting it down. Catching a ball involves calculus that your brain just does. What you see is assembled in your brain by some heavily math focussed areas.

      As for loss of function, I'd think that there are people out there who would cry tears of joy to be able to change the channel. Some people with physical disabilities would be first in line for this type of thing. This is (hopefully) for people who currently can't rather than those who are lazy fat-asses.

    2. Re:Risk vs Reward? by Cal27 · · Score: 1

      2 + 2 = 4.999999999999925772

  22. Input and Output? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The blurb appears to be an output from the brain to the computer. The real power comes when the computer can output to the brain in a useful and integrated manner. The the feedback loop would allow powerful new oportunities.

    This is ironically the same time where mind-control through hacking the brain chip becomes a real problem.

    A read-only system for the brain has the concern of others reading your mind but the mind-control comes with a read/write system.

  23. Ghost in the Shell! FTW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yeah, that anime sci-fi doesn't seem too far-fetched now, does it?

    1. Re:Ghost in the Shell! FTW! by FlyingBishop · · Score: 1

      i/o is still a long way off. This is only computer input mechanisms. One way, man to machine. Machine can't alter man yet.

    2. Re:Ghost in the Shell! FTW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As ningyoutsukai said: "Your effort to remain what you are is what limits you [to being a douchbag]."

  24. Better training by falckon · · Score: 1

    I don't think training it to react to what you are thinking about is the best idea. It should be the combination of the words you're thinking about and the intent to write it down on the computer. This way you can still have mental tangents without having to worry about constantly turning off the device.

  25. These are going to have to be some small implants by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm a truck driver.

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    This ain't rocket surgery.
  26. thx 1138 by Dan667 · · Score: 1

    Remember the scene where they freeze the guy with brain implants and he is doing something that could blow everything up? Then they realize they have made a mistake and release him. No thanks.

  27. Internet caps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who says they're bad?

  28. Johnny Mnemonic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What’s next? A dolphin hacking our brain! Damn you Johnny Mnemonic! Damn you.

  29. intel did not invent fMRI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    the summary is stupid. Using fMRI to show that there is functional and structural interrelations is not something Intel did -- the cognitive neuroscience community deserves credit for that. They may have taken fMRI signal and done something w.r.t. controlling a computer -- but that's really not all that amazing; it's signal after all.

  30. Fascinating stuff... by AdamTrace · · Score: 4, Informative

    I recently heard an NPR article about this kind of thing.

    Using real time MRI, someone could be presented with flashcards of common objects (screwdriver, igloo, flower, etc). When they thought about those objects, certain areas of the brain lit up.

    The scientists said that when you think of a screwdriver, there isn't a single "screwdriver" area that lights up. Instead, you think of how it looks, what it feels like in your hand, what it's used for. You might think of construction workers, or your favorite screwdriver in your workbench at home. So lots of areas in the brain "light up".

    What's amazing to me is that it appeared to be the SAME AREAS for DIFFERENT people.

    As an example of this, the NPR production assistant (who was just visiting and helping with the interview) got hooked up to the MRI and was shown the flashcards. The computer, by looking at her brain, successfully guessed 10 out of 10. Even though the computer "learned" from someone else!

    I suppose someone who'd never seen a screwdriver before wouldn't have the same sort of response, so it's probably limited to people with the same cultural backgrounds.

    Pretty neat stuff.

    1. Re:Fascinating stuff... by phallstrom · · Score: 2, Funny

      This reminds me somewhat of the AI computer to look at sat photos and determine if there were tanks in the photo. They trained it. They tested it. It worked great. And then it failed horrifically. It turns out the training photos that had tanks were taking on sunny days, those that didn't were cloudy. The computer had learned to distinguish between sunny and cloudy days and wasn't looking for tanks at all.

    2. Re:Fascinating stuff... by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Yes, quite interesting. I wonder if the similar brain activity patterns could be explained merely by the motor functions related to said object, and the areas of the brain used for those functions being hard-wired. Usually brain scan interpretations are full of unresearched assumptions, but the similarities that you describe say a lot and rule out a lot of things, even without one having to make many assumptions.

    3. Re:Fascinating stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [..] look at sat photos and determine if there were tanks in the photo.

      Fascinating, yeeeeeeeesssss...

      No go to Google Earth, find a cloudy photo, and tell me what can you see beneath the clouds.

    4. Re:Fascinating stuff... by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      When they thought about those objects, certain areas of the brain lit up.

      It's been done. I am now going to make you think of the actual temperature needed to liquefy atmospheric air (on earth), Mozart and why worms are more visible after rain.

      Did it work?

  31. Not only Intel... by bartosz.broda · · Score: 1

    Actually, not only Intel is working on that kind of stuff. I got one of those and it is working (well, kind of ;-) ).

  32. Mind/Machine Interface by SMACX+guy · · Score: 1

    The Warrior's bland acronym, MMI, obscures the true horror of this monstrosity. Its inventors promise a new era of genius, but meanwhile unscrupulous power brokers use its forcible installation to violate the sanctity of unwilling human minds. They are creating their own private army of demons.

  33. The Progress of Lazyness by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Funny

    In the future...

    "Wait, Dad, you mean you used to have to move your arm to change the channel on the TV?"

    "That's nothing, son. Great-Grandpa had to actually get up off the sofa and move to the TV to turn a dial."

    Son physically reels. "Whoa, stop, you're blowin' my mind. But they did have motor-sofas to move you to the TV, right?"

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    Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    1. Re:The Progress of Lazyness by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

      (and yes, I realize in the future we probably won't even have channels, but the image is funnier with TVs and channels)

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      Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    2. Re:The Progress of Lazyness by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 1

      You mean you have to use your hands? That's like a baby's toy!

    3. Re:The Progress of Lazyness by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      "That's nothing, son. Great-Grandpa had to actually get up off the sofa and move to the TV to turn a dial."

      "Dad? What the hell is a dial?"

    4. Re:The Progress of Lazyness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The father tried to answer him but his 6 layered chin had swallowed up his mouth.

    5. Re:The Progress of Lazyness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the distant future...

      "..."

      "..."

      Son physically reels. "..."

      "We use to have to use words to communicate."

      "!"

    6. Re:The Progress of Lazyness by Lord_Breetai · · Score: 1

      Damn. I should have modded you up instead of posting this quote. I didn't notice your post.

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      "You are only young once, but you can be immature forever." -www.animemusicvideos.org
    7. Re:The Progress of Lazyness by DavMz · · Score: 1

      But I am sure the son will be jealous when he will know I could use clumsy fingers as an excuse for typos.

  34. How I see the FBI using it by FunPika · · Score: 1

    1. Arrest suspected terrorist.
    2. Force a chip into his head if he does not already have one.
    3. Connect the chip to a device that will show whatever you are thinking on a screen.
    4. Interrogate the suspected terrorist, even if he won't talk he will likely be stupid enough to think about the answers they want.
    5. ?????
    6. Profit!!!!

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    1. Re:How I see the FBI using it by Firkragg14 · · Score: 1

      There are techniques in use similar to this already. Show people pictures of the scene or of a murder victim and then use a device monitoring brain activity to see if it triggers recognition.

  35. Re:Why surgically? by Rashdot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    when someday nanobots will build an interface directly inside the brain?

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  36. I call by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    Bullshit.

          Oh, the "silicon" part of the technology may be ready. However any foreign body inside a human body is susceptible to 1) chronic inflammation (which isn't so bad if it's around the metal holding your shattered bones together, after all, you can always take the metal out or at worst amputate the limb) and b) infection.

          Now, hands up who is willing to have a device implanted in their brain that might cause permanent brain damage, bacterial meningitis (and all of its sequellae) or death?

          Lab rats, as usual, will have the advantage (?) of having their intellect enhanced with implants long, long before we humans will.

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    1. Re:I call by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

      Since they are talking about brain waves, it doesn't necessarily need to be inside the skull. I'm not clear on why they call it an implant, unless they absolutely positively want it to always stay in the same place, a somewhat dubious requirement.

    2. Re:I call by maxume · · Score: 1

      Generally, people with Parkinson's have been pretty willing.

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    3. Re:I call by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When we installed neurons in lab rats we used hammered silver electodes. Silver is a good conductor and anti-bacterial.

  37. I can see it now by LuxMaker · · Score: 1
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  38. Will it run windows? by localoptimum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously, this is a great idea. Only teenagers would agree to such a ridiculous implant, and you could rootkit the bastards and zap them when they piss on your car on a Friday night.

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    1. Re:Will it run windows? by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 1

      no you hack them to think they are pissing on your car but they are really pissing on each other.

  39. Bad choice of killer app. by Metasquares · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The convenience of being able to navigate to a URL without having to type it is a really limited example. How about writing music with it? Being able to notate exactly what's playing in your head without needing to manually write a single note down? Weeks worth of work reduced to a few minutes! Or art: Can't draw? Just visualize!

    Anything you can think about but can't actually do would be fair game.

    Even with those sorts of apps, I still wouldn't get an implant unless my skull was being opened up for some other reason already. It's certainly not a fair tradeoff against something as simple as web browsing, as the summary suggests. I'm all for the braincaps. That's where BCI technology's headed anyway. And those have the distinct advantage of being removable as well...

    1. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Bad choice of words. This sort of interface could certainly bring new meaning to the phrase "Killer App"

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      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    2. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not a great composer, so I don't really know, but I don't think that the difficult part of composition is actually the transcription (sure, it's tedious, but I don't think it is the hard part).

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      Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
    3. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > Can't draw? Just visualize!

      Those who can't draw can't visualize (unless they are physically disabled).

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    4. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      me too, im waiting for 1.1

    5. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's all a marketing conspiracy. see cell phones will give you the brain cancer and when they are already in your head taking the tumors out then you can have the implants put in. can't afford the cancer surgery? that's fine, we'll just put this device in your skull during the same surgery and you can subsidize the medical costs through neural advertising.

    6. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Or art: Can't draw? Just visualize!

      You know, that's an interesting point you bring up, because the most difficult part of drawing isn't moving your hand, it's learning to visualize. Non-artists just don't see all the details of an object when they look at it. As Maurice Grosser said, "The painter draws with his eyes, not with his hands. Whatever he sees, if he sees it clear, he can put it down, [with] no more muscular agility than it takes for him to write his name. Seeing clear is the important thing."

      Same thing with music. It is true, learning to put notes in their right places on paper and learning about harmony is a pain, but that is nothing compared to actually being able to hear all that stuff in your head. Very few people can hear a song and keep track of what is going on in the baseline, melody and background instruments at the same time. Coming up with your own that sound good together is even harder. Writing it down is the easy part.

      In other words, thinking about things is the hard part. If you can do that, expressing it in some form or another is relatively easy. Which of course, isn't to say it is 100% easy.

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      Qxe4
    7. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by Virtual_Raider · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or art: Can't draw? Just visualize!

      (...) As Maurice Grosser said, "The painter draws with his eyes, not with his hands. Whatever he sees, if he sees it clear, he can put it down, [with] no more muscular agility than it takes for him to write his name. Seeing clear is the important thing." (...) If you can do that, expressing it in some form or another is relatively easy. Which of course, isn't to say it is 100% easy.

      I couldn't disagree more vigorously. I can sort-of-draw. I'm much better than average but nowhere nearly as good as, say, a comic artist. I can see with photographic quality the object in my mind, but it takes great effort, skill and training to put it in paper. I took some basic classes and my drawing improved with those techniques but its still leagues away from what I would like to convey because I didn't practice enough to become more proficient and I didn't learn enough to do it better.

      I can play a song almost to the last note in my head. It took me 6 months to be able to reproduce some boring pop melody at barely 1/4 speed closely enough to be recognizable by somebody other than myself. Maybe I have no "talent". Or maybe "not 100%" is near-zero for beginners and increases only with practice.

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    8. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Maybe I have no "talent". Or maybe "not 100%" is near-zero for beginners and increases only with practice.

      Or maybe you over-estimate the quality of what is going on in your mind. If what you say is true, then you should have significantly less trouble than the average person becoming a great artist or musician. But it is more likely that you don't actually understand what is happening up there.

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    9. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by ignavus · · Score: 1

      I have all these great ideas for an essay, but when I go to write it, the ideas all disappear.

      I wish I could just think the essay when I am in my creative mood and thinking faster than I can write, and then the essay would just appear out of the printer.

      That would be seriously cool.

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      I am anarch of all I survey.
    10. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by IICV · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or maybe what you reproduce in your head isn't exactly what you want to draw or play, but your brain tricks you into thinking it's right. After all, you can visualize an image, but can you visualize the exact lines and curves you would have to draw to put it on paper? If you can't do that, you aren't really visualizing the image; you're just visualizing a vague ideal of the image.

      It's like hearing your voice in a recording versus hearing your voice when you speak - it sounds good until it leaves your head.

    11. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Here's one question: can I draw what is in front of me in an easily recognizable manner? Certainly what I see is what is in my mind, and IIRC imagination uses the same visual circuitry. However, most people (and that includes me) can't. That's what you do in drawing class: you look at things and attempt to draw them. Theoretically, you get better at it.

      What Grosser said is essentially that this is a skill that a painter has, or you might put it that a painter would have to have this skill. This doesn't mean it's a trivial skill, or that being able to automate it wouldn't help a whole lot of people.

      It's similar to what I'm doing now: the words appear on the screen as they come out of my mind. The intervening steps are unconscious, trained initially in junior high school and honed by long practice. Somebody who didn't know how to type would find it more difficult to get the words from the mind to the screen. Being able to draw or paint what you see is a much more difficult and hence rarer skill.

      Now, one difference between me and a great artist is that the artist has acquired the skill of transferring images from his or her mind to some tangible medium. That's not the biggest difference. I do know how to use a camera, but I'm not going to make anybody forget Ansel Adams. I can transfer words from my mind to the screen automatically, but the fiction I've written is, shall we say, not salable quality. If I can't take museum-quality photos in quantity, or write spellbinding fiction, I have no good reason to believe I could produce a great painting or sculpture if I had a chip in my brain hooked up to a paint or CAD program.

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    12. Re:Bad choice of killer app. by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Here's one question: can I draw what is in front of me in an easily recognizable manner?

      Yeah, actually. Apparently the drawing class you had wasn't very good, but it's something anyone can do. If you are inclined towards self-teaching, I would suggest reading "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain." Otherwise I would try to find a better art teacher.

      It's similar to what I'm doing now: the words appear on the screen as they come out of my mind. The intervening steps are unconscious, trained initially in junior high school and honed by long practice. Somebody who didn't know how to type would find it more difficult to get the words from the mind to the screen.

      This is a good example, actually. Typing is a WAY easier skill to learn than thinking of useful things to say, and the proof is looking at the average essay of a high schooler. I might even offer myself as an example......I can type rather well, but I am not as good a writer as even someone like Stephen King. And even getting to the minimal level where I am now, where I can post coherent slashdot comments that often get moderated up (not today, though, apparently), has taken a lot of time. And for that matter, Stephen King worked HARD at writing to build his skill.

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  40. I'm sick of being underestimated by tinkertim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why, oh why does everyone at Intel think that people just want to 'surf the web' with whatever they happen to invent? You invent freaking brain implants and the first obvious use becomes surfing the web?

    It could not be ... `write code` or `use photoshop` or .. anything even remotely challenging to a human brain?

    Ah well.

    1. Re:I'm sick of being underestimated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, ok. You can do email and play games too.

    2. Re:I'm sick of being underestimated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      since the common man surfs the web. But if you can input text to a computer by thinking, sign me up and give me a head mounted display :}

    3. Re:I'm sick of being underestimated by c_sd_m · · Score: 1

      At least it's not just stimulating the pleasure centres. Even with all the knowledge at their fingertips, people still just want to watch sitcoms and youtube. I would guess this tech would replace Prozac pretty quickly.

    4. Re:I'm sick of being underestimated by FrankDrebin · · Score: 1

      Why, oh why does everyone at Intel think that people just want to 'surf the web' with whatever they happen to invent?

      Because apparently doing stuff like floating-point division is out of the question?

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    5. Re:I'm sick of being underestimated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because "surfing the web" includes far more than the pejorative connotation you give it. Hear a word you don't know? Where do you go to look it up? Concept in a conversation you're not familiar with? Where do you go to look it up? One of the greatest things about the web is that it's slowly removing our need to wonder about stuff. (Notice I did not say capacity for wonder. Being awestruck by a sunset is an entirely different form of wonder than wondering what dates Truman held the presidency.) Surfing the web need not be just wasting time while you should be working; it also means *poof!* -> knowledge.

    6. Re:I'm sick of being underestimated by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      Probably because enough people at Intel know that 'surf the web' is quite often a euphemism for 'find porn or some other form of online sex.'

  41. ...The same brain patterns... by Helldesk+Hound · · Score: 1

    I wonder if this means that if a scientist implanted this sort of implant into an animal that we would be able to figure out what it is thinking.

    1. Re:...The same brain patterns... by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

      It's been done.

  42. Consider the benefits... by tx_derf · · Score: 1

    I really don't want to have an implant in my head for people to "keylog" or pop up spam, et al. However, this could really benefit medical science by giving the physically disabled a means to work computers more easily. Not only that but this technology can be used in medical science. One could control a prosthesis or other equipment with much greater control. Accident victims and soldiers who have lost limbs may even be able to regain near 100% function, even with something as intricate as a working hand. People with debilitating diseases or conditions, Stephen Hawking comes to mind, would be able to enjoy much more independence with the right equipment being driven by their still very capable mind. While the potential for abuse exists and must be guarded against, I see the potential benefits making this technology worth pursuing.

  43. Don't get too carried away by dave562 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems like they're at the point where they can recognize thought patterns. They intend to map those patterns to a UI. Just the other day I found myself sitting in front of a PC and browsing the web (imagine that). I've been using a Mac a lot lately. I wanted to scroll the page down and I found myself reaching for the touch pad to do that nifty two finger drag motion.

    Some where between wanting to scroll the page down and the actual muscle action of reaching for the non-existent track pad was a series of neuro-chemical impulses. It seems like the researchers are identifying those. It would be kind of cool to be able to move a pointer around the screen and do basic web browsing actions (forward, backward, click, scroll, etc) without ever having to reach for the mouse. It seems like I first read about people using alpha waves to control mouse pointers over a decade ago at this point. It's about time they're getting to the point of doing something that might be useful.

    Now once they get to the point of bringing up search results based on our thoughts, that is when I will start worrying.

    1. Re:Don't get too carried away by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

      Not to be an alarmist, but I'll bet money that you'll be worried well before that.

    2. Re:Don't get too carried away by dave562 · · Score: 1

      You mean maybe I should be worried when "security rigger" becomes a job description and they've got humans wired into the thousands of cameras that are spread all over places like... Chicago?

    3. Re:Don't get too carried away by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      Good points. But can you imagine an engineering designer (assuming that said designer had multiple ideas in his head) having to deal with this?

      I can tell you from personal experience that competent design quite often takes the old "sketching on an envelope" and then further refining the idea.

      When I have an idea I reach for a pencil.

    4. Re:Don't get too carried away by ignavus · · Score: 1

      It's about time they're getting to the point of doing something that might be useful.

      The phrase you are looking for is: "Hurry up."

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  44. Lag & Noise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While technology is getting better at imaging people's brains, there's still a lot of lag involved. fMRIs for example look at blood flow to see what areas of a brain are in use and at best get about one update every second. That doesn't necessarily mean it can register a command every second though, since there would have to be some sort of threshold which determines what command is executed, if any. As for brainwave sensors, there is a LOT of noise in brainwaves. Which means that a device that is sensitive to them needs to insensitive enough that random commands aren't executed. For this reason it has proven very difficult to control something through a brainwave sensor. But it can be done and one can get better with training, but when a mouse or keyboard is so much faster, and more accurate, I don't see any Computer Brain interface taking off anytime soon, if ever. The most I could see coming from a computer brain interface would be something that controls your mouse pointer, but slower and less accurate than a regular mouse, and requires a LOT of concentration.

  45. Ob link to XKCD by sconeu · · Score: 2, Informative
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    1. Re:Ob link to XKCD by hitmark · · Score: 1
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  46. Depending on the OS, maybe a lobotomy by swamp+boy · · Score: 1

    Yeah, a brain implant might be the state of the art for some operating systems, but a lobotomy is probably the more appropriate procedure for Windows users.

  47. The Reason by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Imagine being able to surf the Web with the power of your thoughts.

    And there you have it. Why would we want to set up a direct connection between the human mind and a 64-bit multicore computer with many gigabytes of RAM, over a terabyte of storage, and a high-speed connection to the international network of computing machinery? To do large-scale science? To create art as it has never been created before? To help throw off the shackles of oppression and exploitation? Shit, to manage your budget and do your taxes? No. To surf the web.

    Well, at least they're not kidding themselves over at the ever-practical Intel.

    1. Re:The Reason by dokebi · · Score: 1

      By your reasoning a computer scientist from the 60's would be aghast that we use our current computing resources to "read the news", "look at pictures", and to "talk to friends".

      Of course, few people do use the computing power to do science and art and such, but 99% of humans just want to do the stuff we've been doing since the hunter-gatherer times: hang out with our tribe and entertain each other with stories. And more technology will not change that.

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    2. Re:The Reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because e-mail didn't exist in the 60s or 70s at all for people to communicate, such as talking to friends. Nope, not at all.

    3. Re:The Reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet, people log onto the web to do exactly those sorts of things EVERY DAY.

      "Surfing the web" is not the modern analog of "channel surfing."

  48. ObFuturama by sconeu · · Score: 1

    Is the word "Thank you"?

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    General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
  49. I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    welcome our new brain slug overlords...

  50. fat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thank god, to fat to type.

  51. Better yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me know when I can flood your brain with goatse and tubgirl from the comfort of my command line...

  52. BLEH!!! Get that kid off my lawn by smchris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Honest to Dog, I swear we've been "just a decade away" from mass distribution of optical implants to aid the blind since the SEVENTIES! I've given up on stories about the distribution of ALL brain interfaces that are "just a decade away (Really, trust me!)" until I see local news stories about my neighborhood hospital installing them and insurance paying for them.

    1. Re:BLEH!!! Get that kid off my lawn by Angst+Badger · · Score: 1

      Your neighborhood hospital will probably be installing them for thirty years before insurance companies will even think about paying for them.

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    2. Re:BLEH!!! Get that kid off my lawn by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 1

      " and insurance paying for them"

      This is about science, not science fiction.

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    3. Re:BLEH!!! Get that kid off my lawn by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      No, it's true, we're almost there. And this will be the year of linux on the desktop, Sarah Palin is a genius, America's got talent, and I don't want more pie. Right...

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  53. ACTA-2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The good news: No more DRM
    The bad news: Everyone will be required to get an implant that determines what movie/tv show/song you are being exposed to, your credit card will be billed automatically. This implant will be done at the patient's expense and not having one will be punishable with a fine of $1 billion (recompense for all the entertainment you are almost assuredly stealing).

    Says RIAA spokesman: "It really is the only way to beat the pirates once and for all"

  54. Re:Why surgically? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    > when someday nanobots will build an interface directly inside the brain?

    Without you even knowing about it.

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  55. Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been alpha testing this and it works well. For example to add my signature and submit this post I simply think "Anonymous Coward" and then "submit active form". Couldn't be simpler.

    Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all

  56. Usability concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I doubt these king of interfaces are useful since people are in better control of their hands than their thoughts.

  57. and if it's a nano-robot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you won't have a choice.

    it could theoretically enter your system without you even knowing, in your sleep perhaps, and activate inside your body. nano-censors/inputs could send/recieve data to you and control your actions. an inside source at the CIA told me that they have had this type of technology since at least 1995.

    it is not beyond our controlling-every-action-we-do government to do this.

  58. Here is wisdom... by bubezleeb · · Score: 2, Funny

    And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads. And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. I feel an Iron Maiden riff coming on.

    1. Re:Here is wisdom... by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

      Hear that crackling sound inside your head? Hello? Are you still there?

  59. And before that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Samuel R Delany wrote of a brain-computer interface in his novel "Nova" way back in 1968 or so.

  60. Holes In Your Head by DynaSoar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Do you really want someone drilling holes in your head and shoving wires into it just so you don't have to type and use a mouse? Do you have any idea how many of these things you'll need shoved through your skull to be able to fore go just those two activities? (Hundreds) Do you realize that implants hasten neuron death and as they die you'll need to associated electrodes replaced? And just who makes enough money to pay for undergoing dozens (at least!) of invasive implantation surgeries requiring real time CT or MR imaging? You insurance damn sure won't pay for it. And don't give me that "for the disabled" crap -- they don't get the expensive stuff either.

    You don't need implants for brain "waves". Implants are better suited for detecting neural firing patterns on a much smaller scale. But you can get the job done with "waves" (EEG) without having to trephan yourself.

    There are now EEG systems that have the premap on the electrode, making impedance issues irrelevant and signal balancing automatic. There are EEG analysis packages that use continuous wavelet analysis to do time/frequency analysis similar to the "thousands of channels" analysis radio-astronomers enjoy. Between these two, and 'training' a system to recognize a particular person's EEG patterns well enough to control a device like a computer, the other EEG related problems like skin potentials, EMG and EKG artifact become non-issues. And as far as localization, I can reliably localize 40 to 50 signals simultaneously with this technology using a high density (256 or more) electrode EEG.

    This technology exists now. The computing power necessary to operate in as a control system in real time is beyond most people's ability to purchase. So if the nice folks from Intel will kindly put down the cranial drill and get back to what they're good at, maybe by 2020 we can have the sort of computing power sitting on everyone's desk if not sitting in a handheld device in their pocket.

    And get away from that fMRI. I don't care what you think you saw. I saw the fMRI "brain scan" of the dead salmon showing it lighting up as it recognized a human emotion from a photo it had been shown before (but while still dead).

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    "I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
    1. Re:Holes In Your Head by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      Do you really want someone drilling holes in your head and shoving wires into it just so you don't have to type and use a mouse? Do you have any idea how many of these things you'll need shoved through your skull to be able to fore go just those two activities? (Hundreds) Do you realize that implants hasten neuron death and as they die you'll need to associated electrodes replaced? And just who makes enough money to pay for undergoing dozens (at least!) of invasive implantation surgeries requiring real time CT or MR imaging? You insurance damn sure won't pay for it. And don't give me that "for the disabled" crap -- they don't get the expensive stuff either.

      It's a risky operation, but I think it's worth it.

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    2. Re:Holes In Your Head by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your brain is a network.

      Implanting a single input at an early enough stage will produce a "line in" effect that may feel either instinctual or actually produce cognizance depending on the other end of the system.

      Your brain will simply assume a complex network on the other end of the "input".

      The brain "grows" the ability to use our current senses no reason this would be any different.

      The other direction will be more difficult (and probably desired by more people) but the "line in" functionality will be the real game changer.

  61. You know... by esampson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't want to have a video card, hard drive, or CPU that I can't easily upgrade and replace. Why would I want something that would require surgery to do that?

    Oh. You're using a Creative Labs Brainblaster XL? Their new Brainblaster OMG has twice the bandwidth and three times the signal resolution.

    Yeah, maybe you do get a better signal through hardwiring but lets see what happens in 5 years when I can buy the latest equipment and you are either stuck with the older tech or have to get your head sawn open

    again.

    1. Re:You know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We could just discard our bodies and put our brains on suspended animation in a jar for easy access and upgrades. Eventually creating a robotic replacement body is just a matter of time.

  62. La vita loca.... by mevets · · Score: 1

    Add a lazy boy chair, a huge bag of cheetoes balanced over my left shoulder to let the little nuggets flow with the gentlest nudge, beer, and Depends. This is gonna be great.

  63. Re:Let me know when...nike jordan shoes,handbags, by Anachragnome · · Score: 2, Funny

    Someone please mod parent up "Funny".(Just don't click the link!)

    This guy is fucking hilarious.

    "Pass by but don't miss it."

    American marketing firms could learn something from this dude. I am still trying to figure out if he used Google Translate or crafted this fine specimen of marketing himself.

    Man, can't seem to get the image of tracksuit wearing "cooldude" runnin' laps at the track in his Ugg Boots out of my head. Is that SIZE 1-24 Air Jordans, or can I just buy one?

  64. That's where I draw the line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No way I'm buying a Playstation 5 BC!

  65. For a person with a serious disability by mschuyler · · Score: 1

    this might be just the ticket. It's not just about you. Just look at the difficult someone with cerebral palsy or ALS has with motor skills. There's a brain in there, sometimes a brilliant one (Stephen Hawking, for example). Something like this could be a wonderful enabler for them.

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  66. What's so hard about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come on, it's not brain surgery... oh wait

  67. Re:Let me know when...nike jordan shoes,handbags, by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 0

    No, the very best spam is in World of Warcraft, where a large number of trolls are skillfully killed near the auction house so that their fallen corpses spell out the web site of their gold selling operation rendered in 3D. Makes me want to meet them so that I can express my deep admiration for their innovative minds and 1337 development skills, immediately prior to applying a commonly-available heavy kinetic impeller to each of their carpal bones in succession.

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    Do not mock my vision of impractical footwear
  68. Youtube video of though control device that's here by user_foo1 · · Score: 1

    Emotiv has developed a headset that lets you interact with the computer with your thoughts. The device is available now and doesn't require any skull drilling. For a video of a first-time user controlling an onscreen cube with their brain visit: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=5GX8moQzOOM More details at: http://emotiv.com/

  69. I can't wait for the technical support by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 1
    "Have you tried rebooting? Just put the red button at the base of your neck."

    *thud*

    "Sir..?"

    1. Re:I can't wait for the technical support by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 1

      "Have you tried rebooting? Just put the red button at the base of your neck."

      ugh...'push'. Sounds like my implants are acting up. Going to call tech support.

      *thud*

  70. MS Windows for brainstems... by mrraven · · Score: 1

    Microfsoft Windows for brainstems will never ever crash how could you think such a thing? OS X for brainstems will make you a better interior decorator. Linux for brainstems will come with 27 different incompatible brain managers, and will *always* download the correct libraries required to eat your dinner everytime, plus you will be able to hack your brain with open sores software, how cool is that?

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    Tired of all the isms, don't exploit people as an employer, or a government, mmmmK?
    1. Re:MS Windows for brainstems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New flash; OSX brain stems, based on Paris Hilton's brain. Keeps the kernel very small.

      Anon for mods

      falconhell

  71. In soviet Russia.... by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

    In soviet Russia....

    1. Re:In soviet Russia.... by Ihlosi · · Score: 1

      ... cloud computing controls YOU!

  72. Yes, but... by gitoffmylawn! · · Score: 1

    can it play crysis?

  73. Movie comes ture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Circuitry Man" the movie come true! LOL

    1. Re:Movie comes ture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get ready to plug-in boys

  74. ...implants controling computers by 2020... by s0litaire · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well that's not that hard to imagine, since silicone implants have been controlling men's minds since the early 60's...

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    Laters Sol "Have you found the secrets of the universe? Asked Zebade "I'm sure I left them here somewhere"
  75. I wonder... by Interoperable · · Score: 3, Funny

    what a segmentation fault feels like...

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    So if this is the future...where's my jet pack?
  76. Wasn't me by TandooriC · · Score: 1

    Dammit! Why does the browser always brings me to pron sites? I wasn't even thinking of it. I swear!

  77. Re:These are going to have to be some small implan by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

    Why is that a troll? I really am a truck driver. I have a commercial driver license with doubles, tanker and hazmat endorsements and will prove it to anyone who doubts it.

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    This ain't rocket surgery.
  78. Bre.... ho brain! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Breast implants controlling computers?.... errrr... nervermind >

  79. Re:Let me know when...nike jordan shoes,handbags, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    everybody should go to his site but don't buy anything. perhaps we can slashdot it and drive up his bandwidth costs.

  80. And in 2030 by DavMz · · Score: 1

    Computer implants could control brains.

  81. WiFi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WiFi for me, please.

  82. Pah. Prior art! by Fished · · Score: 1

    So, way back in the day (1989?) I did a science project whereby I used testing of skin resistance to control a menu on a computer. It was way primitive, and way slow, but it did work--if you carefully trained yourself to be able to control your tension level to raise and lower the needle. Unfortunately, didn't win because nobody but me could make it work. And besides, I didn't have a hypothesis.

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    "He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
  83. Mouse+Keyboard, please. by gknoy · · Score: 1

    I realize that abstract thought recognition would be great - I think about NASA and get nasa.gov, or something. However, I'd really be thrilled even to have mental controls mapped a keyboard + mouse.

  84. I don't think so by jipn4 · · Score: 1

    The problem isn't technology it's biology: brain surgery is risky and it will remain risky in 2020.

  85. New definition for thoughtcrimes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What would hacking be like? I'd love to see what mind control is like in a real manifestation.

  86. Obligatory BTTF by Lord_Breetai · · Score: 1

    "Wait, Dad, you mean you used to have to move your arm to change the channel on the TV?"

    Video Game Boy #2 (John Thornton): "This is a video game."
    Video Game Boy #1 (Elijah Wood): "I got it working."
    Video Game Boy #2: "My dad taught me about these."
    Marty: "It is Wild Gunman."
    Video Game Boy #2: "How do you play this thing?"
    Marty: "I'll show you kid. I'm a crack shot at this."
    Video Game Boy #1: "You mean you have to use your hands?"
    Video Game Boy #2: "That's like a baby's toy."

    --
    "You are only young once, but you can be immature forever." -www.animemusicvideos.org
  87. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (2021) In other news, the first brain trojan infection has been spotted.
    (2020) A huge increase in the neural spam traffic has started. Most of Earths inhabitants are suffering from the Nigerian prince pandemia.
    (2023) 37% of Earths inhabitants are under the control of the new super brain bot net Morlock.
    (2004) All hail the Hivemind Morlock!

  88. Cool... by doug141 · · Score: 1

    The department of pre-crime will be able to see who thinks screwdrivers are for stabbing.

  89. Future is non-invasive Brain-computer interface by cyberfringe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While electromagnetic implants will certainly appear first (they are already used for deep-brain stimulation to staunch epileptic attacks), I believe it will be the non-invasive brain-computer interfaces (BCI) that really will come into widespread use. One step on the way there is a new technique called "Optogenetics" http://www.stanford.edu/group/dlab/optogenetics/. Another is "Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation which has already been used to both induce and suppress brain states. There are a variety of other techniques being investigated, e.g., near-infrared for monitoring oxygen uptake which also promise good resolution imaging of brain structure and activity. Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMFRI) is the key tool being used now to map cerebral structure and function. The Koreans have had a 10-year initiative going in reverse-engineering the brain that is now showing very significant progress to the extent that universities such as Seoul National University, Hanyang, and KAIST have actually created multidisciplinary "Brain Engineering" departments. Last week I drove a toy slot car on a track with an external brain sensor ... you'll be able to buy it at Toys R US for Christmas this year. Believe it.

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    There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about. -- John von Neumann
  90. And flying cars, too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As far as I can tell, mind-controlled gimmicks have **always** been 10 years in the future, since the 1960s.

  91. Test person... by Barwin8 · · Score: 1

    I'm in for testing! Cool!

  92. Knowledge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm actually rather surprised that most commenters here have been bothering with trivialities like web-surfing.

    It's also quite surprising how many people think that the FA's suggestion is to install video cards and CPUs into
    your brain rather than just a tool to allow you to seamlessly interface with the computer.

    This has unlimited possibilities and, like it or not, is inevitable. As a race the only thing we do well is use tools
    (because we are clever). We have developed an amazing set of tools that no animal on this planet ever developed
    because our brains allow us to interact and cooperate with each other. We network.. Higher-bandwidth networking
    is the next natural step.

    People are wondering when we will be able to just 'add memory' to our brains etc. This is it. If you can interface
    effortlessly with a computer you have unlimited storage capacity (although it's more like carrying an encyclopedia
    around you everywhere where you can instantaneously find information rather than actually associative memory).
    As others pointed out, you can annotate music, write scientific document, use CAS (e.g. Mathematica) systems.
    This is the next natural step of technology and it will immensely boost our evolution, more so than most inventions
    so far.

  93. Idiots by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 1

    Idiots! They've got it the wrong way 'round.

    Or have they?

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    I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
  94. Commodore 64 in my brain? by Katchu · · Score: 1

    This had better be modular and upgradable. Five years after an implant in my BRAIN I'd want the LATEST technology, not the old, obsolete junk.

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    Keep Doing Good.
  95. Hamilton by bluewolfcub · · Score: 1

    Bring on peter hamilton's neural nanonics http://nightsdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Neural_nanonics

  96. I can see the /. discussion threads of the future by Nautical+Insanity · · Score: 1

    A: I never use my brain implant without cerebellumfox-noscript-adblock plus.

    B: But advertising revenue is what pays for all that content that streams into your mind! And mining your memories is what helps marketers know what to sell to you!

    A: I was fine when they had simple relevant text advertisements, but ever since they moved to flashing banner ads in my dreams, that was too much.

    The rants against Comcast would be even better.

  97. And one year later.. by Sitxu · · Score: 0

                            Implats will control human brains...

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  98. At last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean I can have that neural interface for my flying car?

  99. Brain windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now we just wait for the windows 2020 brain edition and hope that our brain fries before the side effects kick in...

  100. Re:I can see the /. discussion threads of the futu by Krneki · · Score: 1

    And I bet they will blame the lost of revenue on the plugin.

    Because we all know watching stuff for free drains money from the them.

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    Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
  101. computers, television sets and cell phones by dp_wiz · · Score: 0

    ...so they can be used to operate computers, television sets and cell phones

    In my 2020es? duh!

  102. Neuroinformatics road to 2020 by Kensai7 · · Score: 1

    It's time to jump on the Neuroinformatics bandwagon...

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    "Sum Ergo Cogito"
  103. Good up to a point by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    I am all for interfacing with computers through brain waves, however they must keep the contact between the 2 physical and not develop
    a wifi type, as it would be hard to "turn off the transmittion" I could see someone experiencing pain after an accident or maybe have mayhem in their brain at the moment they are hit with a heart attack, how would those particular moments be interpreted by the machine hooked up, as well...let's not go too far with this technology. I could well imagine a keyboard to say interface with a computer instead of typing but not to operate a car in traffic with many other cars on the road....that would be a little too much asking for trouble.

  104. ... harness brain waves? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do not wish my computer gets as messy as my mind!

  105. Good books about that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Joe Haldeman-
    Forever Peace
    The Dueling Machine

  106. I wonder what would happen when my mind wanders by ThinkDifferently · · Score: 1

    What corner of the web will it go to? What forms will it auto-fill in for me? What charges will I find on my credit card at the end of the month?

  107. Goatse? by phorm · · Score: 1

    Hmm, well I would think that in this case being goatse'ed, rickrolled or other such things would really, really suck. It may be that there's not a tech level where you could overwrite somebody's brain via such an implant, or steal information from it, but it would probably be easier to send somebody to a matrix-like VR and trick them with a bad URL.

    Hmmm... what's this "twogirls1cup.vr" file.

    For that matter, prankers could have had a lot of fun with a holodeck too. April fool's would surely be a great thing.

  108. "Intel Inside" by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Time to put the "Intel Inside" sticker on my forehead?

  109. Does this mean by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

    I will no longer need to actually move my head when playing my DK?