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Each American Consumed 34 Gigabytes Per Day In '08

eldavojohn writes "Metrics can get really strange — especially on the scale of national consumption. Information consumption is one such area that has a lot of strange metrics to offer. A new report from the University of California, San Diego entitled 'How Much Information?' reveals that in 2008 your average American consumed 34 gigabytes per day. These values are entirely estimates of the flows of data delivered to consumers as bytes, words and hours of consumer information. From the executive summary: 'In 2008, Americans consumed information for about 1.3 trillion hours, an average of almost 12 hours per day. Consumption totaled 3.6 zettabytes and 10,845 trillion words, corresponding to 100,500 words and 34 gigabytes for an average person on an average day. A zettabyte is 10 to the 21st power bytes, a million million gigabytes. These estimates are from an analysis of more than 20 different sources of information, from very old (newspapers and books) to very new (portable computer games, satellite radio, and Internet video). Information at work is not included.' Has the flow and importance of information really become this prolific in our daily lives?"

245 comments

  1. Yes, but... by tool462 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How much of that is redirected to /dev/null?

    1. Re:Yes, but... by dotgain · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and did they calculate the total the same way as they do the "street value" of "drugs"? 34 gigs a day, come on...

    2. Re:Yes, but... by Medieval_Gnome · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. I could make the outrageous claim that I am currently consuming 12 gigabytes of data per second, based on my monitor's resolution and refresh rate. And since it's hooked up over DVI-D, this is, strictly speaking, digital information.

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    3. Re:Yes, but... by w0mprat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      the_mod_points_i_was_going_to_give_you > /dev/null

      Now rm -rf * off my lawn!

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    4. Re:Yes, but... by ImYourVirus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They average everyone's among everyone, thus all the data of data centers and the like are probably included. In the end these stories are generally always full of shit and misleading.

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    5. Re:Yes, but... by Bakkster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It seems they converted any information you consume to digital. For example, the headline "The New York Times" would be 18 bytes encoded as characters (assuming no byte packing). Television and audio (including radio and phone) were also measured, I assume by the size of the digital signals on the provider's backend.

      TV was 45% of the overall data consumed per day, clocking in at 4.5 hours of watching. That's 34GB * 45% = 15.3GB of television. 15.3GB/4.5 hours = 3.4GB/hour => ~1MB/s => ~8Mbit/s. That's a fairly reasonable (and conservative) estimate, since compressed 720p is 20Mbit/s. I'd say 34GB/day overall is a reasonable number.

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    6. Re:Yes, but... by Jurily · · Score: 1

      wtf is "information consumption", anyway? If I watch a movie, am I "consuming" more, than if I read a .txt? Does 12 hours of Stargate contain more information than a Physics 101 textbook?

    7. Re:Yes, but... by feardiagh · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Reminds me of the old quote: "There are three types of lies in the world: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

      Define what you mean by "consume" in this case. If we look at the definitions easily available on the internet, say here, we have several definitions that do not quite fit.

      If we assume they mean "To expend; use up", I ask... how does one use up data?

      How about "To purchase (goods or services) for direct use or ownership."? I don't know how many of you pay for all the data that comes at you... I certainly do not. This does not seem to fit.

      Ah. Here is one that makes a bit more sense: "To waste; squander." I know that I certainly do not make good use of nearly all the data that I take in, and not nearly all of the data that I have access to. But this one isn't what they mean, or if it is they are even more cynical than I.

      And then, how is the size measured. Information is difficult to quantify. How is it stored? Is it compressed somehow. Why are books ignored in that graph? (I think I know... but the idea that the average American doesn't read enough to count is depressing) A word on a page in a book is information, how does it relate to how many bits or bytes? How about a picture on the same page, is it worth 1000 of those words?

      Statements like "Each American Consumed 34 Gigabytes Per Day In '08" are totally meaningless in the way that statement is delivered. It is devoid of context or content. It definitely fits the definition of "To waste; squander".

    8. Re:Yes, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much of that is redirected to /dev/null?

      And how much is pR0n?

    9. Re:Yes, but... by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 1

      and did they calculate the total the same way as they do the "street value" of "drugs"? 34 gigs a day, come on...

      I need my bandwidth man.... Just a few gigs worth, a little something to get me through the rough patch so I can torrent my show. It's the season finale! I just gotta see it, man! You need... something? I can do it, just give me some bandwidth.

      After this, I'm going cold turkey.

    10. Re:Yes, but... by von_rick · · Score: 2, Funny

      Way more.

      Now if you start assigning value to the kind of information based upon your preference, you may have a different opinion. But you can't change the fact that 12 hours of Stargate is packed with considerably more information than a Physics textbook file.

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    11. Re:Yes, but... by KharmaWidow · · Score: 1

      is this even possible with a Comcast account? Between the 250GB monthly cap and the switching from PBE to BE if you have 70% sustained use of download bandwidth, I don't think so. Max is like 8.3 GB per day over 30 days. ...Dont think its possible for AT&T DSL either. I think this 34GB/day number is inflated.

    12. Re:Yes, but... by Tellarin · · Score: 2, Informative

      From TFS:

      These estimates are from an analysis of more than 20 different sources of information, from very old (newspapers and books) to very new (portable computer games, satellite radio, and Internet video)

      They are not talking about internet usage. They're talking about overall information consumption. So torrent users has not much to do with it at all.

      Not that I believe their number.

    13. Re:Yes, but... by bpsbr_ernie · · Score: 1

      Being it's American consumption, I'd have to guess, that 100% went to /dev/null

    14. Re:Yes, but... by Bakkster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Otherwise it is really hard to get to ~20GB/day of internet use.

      I knew nobody RTFA, but I thought people at least read a short comment before replying.

      Not internet use, all information/data. That's including possibly non-digital formats such as television, phone conversations, or print.

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    15. Re:Yes, but... by tattood · · Score: 1

      reads email and surfs the wab

      I wonder how much of that time is spent reading blags...

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    16. Re:Yes, but... by sunderland56 · · Score: 2, Informative

      So the TV numbers are reasonable, but the radio ones are not.

      Radio was 10.59% of the overall, or 34GB * 10.59% = 3.6 GB per day. CD quality is 44100 * 16/8 * 2 = 176KB/sec. So they're saying the average American listens to stereo CD-quality radio for over 20 hours per day? I doubt it.

    17. Re:Yes, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They estimated that people on average wath 4.5 hours of television per day? Really? I've been watching between 1 and 3 hours hours of television most days recently, and this has felt like an awful lot.

    18. Re:Yes, but... by Bakkster · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Using CD-quality numbers, that comes to 600MB/hour. So about 6 hours of radio per day at that rate.

      Assuming average overall, as well as including ambient radio stations (most restaurants and shopping malls) I can envision 6/hr a day of hearing the radio, even if it's not active listening.

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    19. Re:Yes, but... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "wtf is "information consumption", anyway? If I watch a movie, am I "consuming" more, than if I read a .txt? Does 12 hours of Stargate contain more information than a Physics 101 textbook?"

      An input metric, yes, yes.

      I'd say my brain consumed more than 34GB of information from my senses just getting out of bed and navigating to my PC, simultanoeously scratching my arse probably added a few more GB.

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    20. Re:Yes, but... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      And that's ignoring everything else in your field of view. Add in the other four senses and it highlights the spectacular (and largely unconsious) ability of brains to model and respond to the real world.

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    21. Re:Yes, but... by aj50 · · Score: 1

      Data, sure, but the summary did at least specify information.

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    22. Re:Yes, but... by IdleTime · · Score: 1

      Of the 34Gb consumed, 33.9Gb was porn!

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    23. Re:Yes, but... by aquila.solo · · Score: 1

      Parent != Troll

    24. Re:Yes, but... by dan828 · · Score: 1

      Ah, but even though we didn't RTFA, they probably included it as "consumed" data, thereby inflating that average.

    25. Re:Yes, but... by andreyvul · · Score: 1

      I torrent 10 GiB / day, not 30 GiB / day, you insensitive clod!

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    26. Re:Yes, but... by the_other_chewey · · Score: 1

      I could make the outrageous claim that I am currently consuming 12 gigabytes of data per second, based on my monitor's resolution and refresh rate.

      I highly doubt that.

      12GB/s = 103 079 215 104 (assuming binary GB).
      Also assuming an outrageously advanced display using 16bit per color channel and a refresh rate of 120Hz,
      (which I'm not sure even exists) this gives us 17 895 697 (.1) pixel, or the equivalent of more than four
      30" displays with 2560x1600 pixel. What kind of display are you using exactly?

      Also, dual link DVI carries a maximum of 1.2GB/s.
      So maybe all my math was useless and you just forgot a decimal point...

    27. Re:Yes, but... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      4.5 hours of TV a day? On average? Wait, so after 8 hours of sleep, 8 hours of work, 1 hour of getting up in the morning and driving, 1 hour of eatin and 4.5 hours of TV, there are only 1.5 hours left?

      That’s messed up, man!
      Even spending those 4.5 hours on /. is better than that. Think about it. You throw away 18.75% of your life! With 78 years, that’s 14.625 years! That’s as much as the whole pre-puberty life, plus some more! Thrown away. For nothing. :/

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  2. We are fat. by orlanz · · Score: 1

    Yes, we Americans are FAT, we get it! Just leave us, our couches, and potato chips (I mean Pringles) alone already!

    1. Re:We are fat. by Kratisto · · Score: 5, Funny

      My file structure is NTFS, you insensitive clod!

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    2. Re:We are fat. by anss123 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, you have been dethroned by the australians.

    3. Re:We are fat. by gzearfoss · · Score: 4, Funny

      Easy there, he's just trying to get a Reiser out of you.

    4. Re:We are fat. by orlanz · · Score: 1

      Is... is that where our old school potato chips been going? Cause I would gladly take that back as one of those bags is more satisfying as 10 Pringle cans (that's when I get shortness of breath doing the "One you pop..." song and dance).

    5. Re:We are fat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a joke about murder in there somewhere...

    6. Re:We are fat. by LOLLinux · · Score: 1

      That's only because he's trying to murder my data.

    7. Re:We are fat. by thisnamestoolong · · Score: 1

      That pun was EXTremely bad.

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    8. Re:We are fat. by Anonymusing · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up! That's a killer joke.

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    9. Re:We are fat. by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 1

      That pun was EXTremely bad.

      Oh, man, stop it. EnoUFS2 much.

      (Someone's gonna fsck me up for that one.)

    10. Re:We are fat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ooof, that one EXTerminated me.

    11. Re:We are fat. by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Typical, I get my 15min of fame and the photographer cuts my head off!

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    12. Re:We are fat. by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "Is... is that where our old school potato chips been going?"

      Yep, we also have your old school bacon and milk.

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  3. obligatory by Icegryphon · · Score: 3, Funny

    how many of these is that?

    1. Re:obligatory by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Informative

      Since the LoC is traditionally pegged at 20 terabytes, this would be 1.66 milliLoCs. Or, to put it another way, the person consumes a Library of Congress once about every 20 months.

    2. Re:obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      damn thats a lot of fiber. Americans must be some very regular peoples.

    3. Re:obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, just look at the crap they leave everywhere.

      They even have to find new countries (Iraq, Afghanistan) to spread their crap.

    4. Re:obligatory by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      Consuming the Library of Congress sounds like fun...
      See you all in 20 months.

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  4. and thats just my porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    you should see how much i consume in illegal MP3 / MOVIES

    1. Re:and thats just my porn by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      Yeah, no kidding, I thought the amount was a bit low too. My Azureus stats alone approx. 200GB/year, both ways.

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    2. Re:and thats just my porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      per year? I've hit 200GB so far in December!

      Curse you cracked, for posting lists like "most overlooked movies of the decade"!

  5. Massive exaggeration by 14erCleaner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Has the flow and importance of information really become this prolific in our daily lives?

    No, they're just making up big numbers to get attention. Apparently, it's working.

    Consider how many "gigabytes" you "consume" just by watching TV for a few hours. Nothing new here...

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    1. Re:Massive exaggeration by jandrese · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I was wondering how much this number jumped up since Americans started buying HDTVs. It's a completely useless statistic regardless though.

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    2. Re:Massive exaggeration by Tired+and+Emotional · · Score: 4, Funny

      But they said information, so not much TV counts. (do they subtract for Fox news?)

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    3. Re:Massive exaggeration by kainino · · Score: 1

      This is all kind of silly. You could see it as an exaggeration or a gross understatement. You could fit your results to your ulterior motives. If you recorded all of the input to your eyes, ears, touch, pain, temperature, taste, smell, etc in full detail 24 hours per day, that would probably be measured in petabytes. If you're at a real theater instead of a cinema, that doesn't mean that you're not taking in an equal amount of information via your senses.

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    4. Re:Massive exaggeration by Jay+Maynard · · Score: 1

      Me, I just find it ironic they felt compelled to ask the question on Slashdot, home of the biggest information junkies around...

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    5. Re:Massive exaggeration by devjoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Since it is counted by bytes, the old adage that a picture is worth a thousand words is a bit of an understatement. Digital cameras these days put out 2 MB jpgs, compared with the average word taking about 6 bytes. So a picture is actually worth about 300,000 words.

    6. Re:Massive exaggeration by lwsimon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Opinion is information, and at least it is presented as such on Fox.

      I don't understand the blind hatred for Fox by many libs --- MSNBC is the equivalent on the left, and you guys never get upset about that. CNN is left-of-center, but not as extreme. Neither separate opinion from news in their programming.

      The only complaint I have with Fox is the whole "Fair and Balanced" line. They aren't balanced, and that's okay - they should own up to it.

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    7. Re:Massive exaggeration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not that much actually. Digital SD-TV is about 1-3GB per hour.

    8. Re:Massive exaggeration by jeffshoaf · · Score: 1

      The only complaint I have with Fox is the whole "Fair and Balanced" line. They aren't balanced, and that's okay - they should own up to it.

      So, you agree that they're unbalanced?

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    9. Re:Massive exaggeration by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      Consider how many "gigabytes" you "consume" just by watching TV for a few hours. Nothing new here...

      It's totally meaningless, too, since it depends on the particular compression algorithms used. (For example, it's probably theoretically possible to get much better video compression than current block-based DCT technologies by better understanding and modeling how the human brain processes images.)

      Back in the 1970s before MPEG was invented, measuring video data rates would have required about 720*480*30*2 = 20 Mbytes/sec. So someone who averaged 2 hours of daily TV would have "consumed" about 150 GB per day. Thus, using this logic, I conclude that the amount of information we absorb is plummeting!

    10. Re:Massive exaggeration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably because Fox News doesn't actually have news. It is all based around the opinion side of things. The fact that Fox News is found to be lying and deceiving all the time. The fact that while MSNBC does show its opinion, it also shows actual news.

      Also, asshats like Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Hannity, and all the other ilk at Fox News that claim to be journalist yet don't have the first clue about what real journalism actually is.

      Fox News isn't balanced, and it isn't fair, either.

    11. Re:Massive exaggeration by AndersOSU · · Score: 1

      First, I disagree that either CNN or MSNBCs inserts opinion into their news shows, and second, Fox is much worse about just plain making shit up

    12. Re:Massive exaggeration by LandDolphin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "When we do it, it's ok" is usually a good reason.

      I personally don't watch MSNBC or CNN, so I couldn't really respond to their programing. However, I do occationally watch Fox News (good to know what others are thinking and being told). The reporting is far from fair and balanced, but they say it is to mislead their audiance. They use horrible tactics (Glenn Beck) and sometimes down right lie (Daily Show pointed this out with footage of Washington Demonstrations).

      The reason you see more hate for Fox News is probably because it is not only the "libs", but some middle of the road people who take offense to their "journalism".

      Also, I'd be willing to bet that Fox has much higher ratings than MSNBC. So, beign larger, they get more attention.

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    13. Re:Massive exaggeration by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Well even the computer portion seems to be a huge overestimate. 26.97% of 34GB/day = 9.1GB/day, or 3.3TB/year. It's also -- and this is key -- 275GB per month, which is 25GB over the cap on Comcast's "unlimited" service.

      I've *seen* usage charts for my ISP (not Comcast) and 275GB/mo would place you squarely in the top 2%, and after the top 5% there's a very long and shallow tail. Either these numbers were simply pulled out of somebody's rectum, or if they did an actual study with very flawed methodology.

    14. Re:Massive exaggeration by King_TJ · · Score: 1

      Heh... maybe not much, if you consider the old *analog* TV format was uncompressed and used a lot more of the frequency spectrum than digital TV does....
      If you wanted to actually try to measure the "bandwidth consumed" of watching analog over-the-air television broadcasts, I bet the number would be up there.

    15. Re:Massive exaggeration by w0mprat · · Score: 1

      An hour of standard television is 90gb of raw data approximatley, this varies with PAL/NTSC and HD standards would be a factor of 2x 4x and more. I would hope this was ignored, but I somehow doubt that. They likely considered a compressed stream of data rather than raw images.

      The actual bitrate of information content of TV is lower of course, and varies greatly. In some cases a negative bitrate: reality TV can actually suck information out of your head.

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    16. Re:Massive exaggeration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't recall MSNBC or CNN keeping hosts on the air who openly advocate the violent overthrow of the government.

      Nor do I recall either news channel making up numbers to make "protests" that the news channel created and promoted look bigger, or running footage from other events to accomplish the same goal ("accident" my ass).

      Or what about how every "family values" Republican who's caught "hiking the Appalachian trail" or trolling airport bathrooms suddenly gets a (D) next to their name?

      But let me guess - you probably believe that Saddam Hussein planned 9/11 and all the terrorists are upset because we have too much "freedom", right?

    17. Re:Massive exaggeration by tgv · · Score: 1

      Come on, you're trolling! I easily memorize 34Gb per day. That's only 4 to 5 DVDs, pixel by pixel, with a few sound tracks, just over 1500 per year. No problem at all, you Thomas.

    18. Re:Massive exaggeration by jmac_the_man · · Score: 1

      MSNBC makes shit up too.

    19. Re:Massive exaggeration by bertoelcon · · Score: 1

      Has the flow and importance of information really become this prolific in our daily lives?

      No, they're just making up big numbers to get attention. Apparently, it's working.

      I would say that yes the flow of information is important, it has been for a long time. The flow of entertainment on the other hand is almost a river of piss.

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    20. Re:Massive exaggeration by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes. The very unbiased Media Matters for America.

      Why is it that on the front page of a "media watchdog" site, everybody listed is conservative and/or Republican and/or a conservative organization? Beck, Rove, Limbaugh, Palin, Washington Post, Fox News, Robertson, Fox, "the conservative media's increasingly lame attacks," etc. What, they can't find ANYTHING in mainstream news media outlets that tend towards more liberal viewpoints to criticize? How about someone like ... Reid or Pelosi, who continually misrepresent facts? Instead, MMA appears to take more issue with outraged conservatives that are less than polite. Reid can compare conservatives to pro-slavery people and that's ok, but if conservatives get upset about it and call Reid a name, that's not ok?

      I personally dislike the stupid namecalling two-year-old-attitude that apparently everybody in Congress has (not really, but it seems like it). I also am frustrated by the lies and deceptions given by politicians. And I'm annoyed that Congress's approval rating is so low and yet nobody seems to want to vote anyone new in. But MMA is hardly an unbiased site and appears to definitely have a vested interest in trying to get rid of conservative viewpoints and opinions:

      Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

      And it's rather telling that you don't think CNN/MSNBC give opinions in their news. Have you heard of a guy by the name of Keith Olbermann?

    21. Re:Massive exaggeration by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      What do you mean "*2"? Shouldn't that be "*3"? Or do you think video was limited to 65536 colors?

    22. Re:Massive exaggeration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [Fox News] Opinion is information...

      Opinion is entertainment.

      There, fixed that for you.

    23. Re:Massive exaggeration by AndersOSU · · Score: 1

      about medial matters

      Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.

      (emphasis mine)

      No one is pretending media matters is neutral - anyone is free to start up their own service fact checking liberal media outlets - which is far from perfect. But you can't defelct criticism by your work by complaining that they're only looking at you - that may be true, but if the work were any good there wouldn't be any criticism.

      As for Olbermann - he's a commentator, not a newscaster - you'll note that none of those links I gave singled out Limbaugh, Beck, or Hannity - who are also not news men. (the first link about Jennings starts with Hannity, but then details the falsehood in "straight" newscasts.)

    24. Re:Massive exaggeration by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      Granted, they are not biased nor neutral.

      So, why can't Fox News criticize people in a biased way, too, and believe [insert news agency] over [insert another news agency]?

      Agreed, Olbermann is not a newscaster. But MSNBC thinks he is:

      Keith Olbermann is host of “Countdown with Keith Olbermann.” “Countdown,” a unique newscast that counts down the day’s top stories with Keith’s particular wit and style, telecasts weeknights, 8-9 p.m. ET on msnbc.

    25. Re:Massive exaggeration by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      Digital cameras these days put out 2 MB jpgs

      Digital cameras these days put out 40 MB movies.

      Yeah, I'm just being pedantic :-)

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    26. Re:Massive exaggeration by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Right, because traditional news doesn't lie.

      NYTIMES, Dan Rather, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, John Stewart ....

      Everyone lies. Learn to adjust your filter better and you'll realize that. Or as you probably call these "lies" .... "honest errors".

      If you want examples, I'll be happy to show you. Including the reports by traditional news sources about the DC protests that were equally fallacious. Or how about the "White, gun toting, racist protester" that just about every news organization showed, and commented on, except Fox? If you didn't watch FOX, you'd never know it was a black guy they were commenting on, carefully edited to adjust for the Bias the news organization wanted to show (White people carry guns and hate Obama).

      Or how about another recent example of Charlie Gibson not knowing ANYTHING about ACORN scandal? Oh right, because that was FOX driven news.

      Or how about Charlie Rangel being put in charge of the Tax System, even though he forgot about 4 apartments and his house in the Bahamas on his taxes. Or Geitner. Or "Lets teach the kids how to fist" Kevin Jennings as safe schools czar? or climategate or ...

      Now, if you average the Traditional news with Fox News, somewhere in between you'll realize is the truth. News bias is as much as what IS covered as it is about what ISN'T covered. And if you don't get your news from a variety of sources, even if they are biased, you'd never know.

      And if you think "Fox News" is the "what others are thinking" you'd be right, but it also shows how little respect you have for differing opinions, which is typical of elitists, and is shown for their absolute distain for "Flyover Country", as if everyone should think a believe like NY City, or Hollywood (Think gun control).

      The point being is that our views are tainted by our "reality". Expand your reality and your views will probably change with it. What is that left wing bumper sticker saying .... "Minds are like Parachutes, they only work when they are open", or is it "Keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out" ;)

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    27. Re:Massive exaggeration by rm999 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, seriously. Recently I started downloading high definition TV shows, which take up 3x as much space as low-definition shows. Does this mean I consume 3 times as much TV now? On the other hand, perhaps that is the point of the metric. As computers get faster, networks wider, and storage cheaper, people will begin to expect more space-intensive media. Higher megapixel photographs, more media on websites; etc...

      But I don't see how this is particularly insightful if everyone consumes higher quality media. More interesting to me was the informal study that showed kids today actually prefer MP3s to uncompressed music!

    28. Re:Massive exaggeration by AndersOSU · · Score: 1

      I don't have a problem with fox criticizing people or policies, so long as it is presented as opinion and not as news - msnbc isn't perfect in this regard, but it's considerably better than fox.

      Kieth's bio blurb may portray him as a newscaster (he occasionally plays the straight anchor for political events) but no one who has ever watched countdown would mistake that show for a newscast.

      I also get uncomfortable when a news organization uses it's platform to materially support events, and then reports on them as if they're organic - as we saw with the teabagger nonsense.

    29. Re:Massive exaggeration by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      NTSC TV signals have much lower resolution in the color components than the intensity. Typical uncompressed implementations used chroma subsampling to match the analog bandwidth. I picked the common case of 4:2:2, where each pixel has a unique Y (intensity) value, and each pair of pixels share common values for Cr and Cb. With 8-bit sampling, this averages out to 2 bytes per pixel overall.

    30. Re:Massive exaggeration by LandDolphin · · Score: 1

      Of course there are always honest mistakes with reporting. Those usually happen when they are trying to report things fast nad make errors and often happen because so few actually report but jsut parrot what others are saying. So one mistake snowballs into misinformation being reported by near everyone.

      As for "what others are thinking", it would seem that I put more respect on differing opinions as I pay attention to both my perspective and that of "conservatives" and "liberals". You then go on a tanget calling me an "elitist" and assert that I have a distain for flyover country and support gun control. All things that are wrong and baseless.

      Not being a fan of Fox News does not make someone a "Left Wing Liberal Elitist".

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    31. Re:Massive exaggeration by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      I don't have a problem with fox criticizing people or policies, so long as it is presented as opinion and not as news - msnbc isn't perfect in this regard, but it's considerably better than fox.

      Hmm. It seems the lines between "news" and "opinion" has definitely blurred in organizations, at any rate... and to some extent, I can see how it is difficult. For example, the recent Reid comment. Is simply reporting that expressing opinion? Or how about not reporting it?

      Or in the case of Gibbs' response to the questioner about the social secretary, I believe it was ... I read one news article that simply said she "peppered" him with questions and then took one quote from Gibbs which did not include the particularly offensive part. Another news article spun it a different way and Gibbs was shown in a bad light, instead. Is that news or opinion? The one that showed Gibbs in a better light than he apparently was was from Reuters, I believe.

      News itself can be very opinionated by simply choosing which news stories to report... that's more why I would say certain organizations lean left or right (or blatantly ARE left/right).

      Kieth's bio blurb may portray him as a newscaster (he occasionally plays the straight anchor for political events) but no one who has ever watched countdown would mistake that show for a newscast.

      You might be surprised... I believe there are people who mistake politicians for honest people, too... ;) And his bio blurb didn't portray him as a newscaster but Countdown as a newscast. This is MSNBC's own description of it's own show. If they think it's a newscast and openly tell you it's a newscast, what does that say about what they feel is news? Seems to me this is basically the same as Fox claiming fair-and-unbalanced. If we take issue with them claiming that, we should take issue with what MSNBC considers it's "news" to be, too...

      I also get uncomfortable when a news organization uses it's platform to materially support events, and then reports on them as if they're organic - as we saw with the teabagger nonsense.

      This I would tend to agree with. I am not a Fox junkie. I'm not even a Republican junkie. The best thing that could happen to America is honesty, IMO... in news, in political arenas, in journalism, etc. Whether you're liberal or conservative is actually less important to me.

      That said, leaving news out can be just as dishonest as making up news, and trusting a left-leaning "news source" solely is just as bad as trusting a right-leaning "news source." Or, I should say, might lead to just as a narrow-minded and ignorant opinion... or just flat out ignorance of what's going on. I tend to just read stories on google's news site, regardless of who publishes it, and simply take into account various leanings. What I do find is interesting are stories that a certain paper reports and others don't report. Those, to me, tell a *lot* about the papers. And I find that Fox has a lot more critical news stories about the current politicians than others.

      And just because I'm in rant mode, I find it very annoying that people are more interested in Tiger Woods' escapades than health care reform (no matter what they think about the current reform bills). Just figured I'd throw that in there. :)

    32. Re:Massive exaggeration by Shane+dot+H · · Score: 1

      Compare Fox News to MSNBC when Fox News gives 15 hours per week of airtime to a former Democratic Congressman's opinion show. Then we'll talk equivalence.

    33. Re:Massive exaggeration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Consider how many "gigabytes" you "consume" just by watching TV for a few hours. Nothing new here..."

      Why wouldn't TV count? It's not an exaggeration, it's just a measurement.

    34. Re:Massive exaggeration by v(*_*)vvvv · · Score: 1

      For one thing, all data isn't information. A book is less in bytes, but could be more informative than video, which requires exponentially larger throughput. Bytes measures data, not information.

      Another thing is this study doesn't answer its own question. I assume this is some media study, but it doesn't say so.

      The real answer would be a biological one. Humans consume information through data obtained from its senses, and the senses are constantly on. Eyesight alone is the brain's FPS x sight resolution x hours awake - the time blinking. Add hearing, touch, smell, taste, and an active imagination, and zettabytes will not cut it.

    35. Re:Massive exaggeration by devonbowen · · Score: 1

      You listed Jon Stewart as a "traditional news" source? That's like listing SNL's "Weekend Update". Though I guess if you're defending FOX News as being news, then I can see how you'd lump him in there to help stretch your point. (I should also note that most of the things you mention that no non-FOX watcher would ever hear about, I saw on Jon's show. Black gun owner, ACORN, etc.)

      Devon

    36. Re:Massive exaggeration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must actually believe the crap that passes for news in the US, if you see MSNBC and CNN as being left...

    37. Re:Massive exaggeration by jmac_the_man · · Score: 1

      Compare Fox News to MSNBC when Fox News gives 15 hours per week of airtime to a former Democratic Congressman's opinion show. Then we'll talk equivalence.

      You originally said that MSNBC didn't insert political opinions into its news shows, but Fox did. You then posted three examples of Fox opinion hosts having political opinions on opinion shows. (Opinion shows, by definition, are not news shows.) The link I posted, on the other hand, was allegedly straight news and not an opinion show.

      As far as Joe Scarborough is concerned, he has a show, but it's not just his opinion on the show. Morning Joe is a panel show. There's usually at least one liberal on the panel. (As there should be. If everyone on the panel always agrees with each other, the show would be boring.) Fox News has a similar show in the same timeslot. Trying to portray Morning Joe as the equivalent to Sean Hannity's show is disingenuous. Once you stop doing that, we can talk equivalence.

    38. Re:Massive exaggeration by jmac_the_man · · Score: 1
      Shane dot H, sorry, I thought you were the original poster. /. should really render better on Firefox. In the first paragraph I just posted, I mean that the post I replied to talked about Fox News = bad and MSNBC = good. (BTW, in my experience, CNN is about equal to Fox in terms of bias (although CNN usually makes its mistakes to the left and Fox makes its mistakes to the right. MSNBC is way the fuck out there.)

      My criticisms of the OP's links and logic stand, as do my criticisms of claiming Joe Scarborough hosts the kind of show where he just gives his opinion.

    39. Re:Massive exaggeration by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      John Stewart and Sean Hannity are the same kind of "news". There are lots of liberals who only watch John Stewart as their "news", just like conservatives watch Sean Hannity for their news.

      If people call Hannity "news" in ripping Fox, then why can't I use John Stewart? Trust me, there are many "liberals" who's only source for "news" is shows like Stewart, Colbert and Maher.

      I'll give another great example of "False" Reporting, one that is being repeated often by liberals, this one being promoted by Bill Maher himself. He recently said that the US Military has never left a place that we invaded; that we have military bases there. This is simply wrong. I can name a place where we invaded, declared it a protectorate and even had a couple of military bases (big ones) as recently as the '70s, where we have no military at all. The Philippines. The point being, Bill Maher is reporting something that is factually wrong. Yet because he isn't a "news" program, he is excused.

      Now, I know that isn't going to sit well with the Bill Maher listeners, and that I'm sure they will figure out excuses (Hypocrisy) why it doesn't matter; that he's still right. Okay fine, but he isn't right.

      I'm not defending Hannity or even Fox News or even bashing Bill Maher, Colbert, and Stewart, far from it. What I am doing is saying that there is plenty of places to pick up bad information, information that is often used as "facts" when it clearly isn't all that factual.

      There is enough hypocrisy on both sides to go around.

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    40. Re:Massive exaggeration by Shane+dot+H · · Score: 1

      That's cool - no big deal. I'll be honest - most of what I know about TV news comes from passing by a running TV in an airport or something, as I don't actually own a television. So no, I don't have much of a dog in this fight, and I acknowledge in advance that I'm not an expert. But CNN until recently had Lou Dobbs, and MSNBC has Joe Scarborough - I can't think of a single liberal hosting a commentary/discussion show on Fox.

      Also, I could never see the left-wing equivalent of Hannity's Obama documentary airing on any national station, anywhere, at any time. Trying to say things like "well everything is just a shade of gray; therefore you can't say something is darker than another" doesn't actually address the criticism.

      Finally, my main beef with Fox News isn't so much with their right wing bias, but is rather the anti-intellectualism on display in TV news. None of the TV news networks challenge the viewer to think about the issues, or purport to even provide more than superficial information on the issues. They'd rather cover screaming matches at town hall meetings than do an infographic about what the public option actually means. I think Fox is the worst of the 3, but that all 3 are guilty of sensationalizing balloon boy, craigslist killer, Michael Jackson, and other irrelevant stories.

    41. Re:Massive exaggeration by lwsimon · · Score: 1

      I get my news from a variety of sources, many of which are outside the US and have their own unique bias.

      MSNBC is most certainly leftist. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that they go out of their way on a daily basis to keep the left in a good light and the right in a negative one.

      CNN is centrist-left. The information presented is almost always correct, but the conclusions drawn from it are highly suspect.

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  6. Data Hogs by Reason58 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The study found that the top 5% would digest over 70 GiB a day. Upon reading this Comcast, for the purpose of easing traffic, has installed horse blinders on them.

    1. Re:Data Hogs by DeadDecoy · · Score: 1

      The study found that the top 5% would digest over 70 GiB a day

      And, they were given lots of fiber to poop out their stolen bits.

  7. broadband by mehrotra.akash · · Score: 2, Funny

    is really fast there!!

  8. slow internets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    36507222016 / 24 / 60 / 60 = 422,537.292

    thats aprox. 3.4 mbits/s

    time to upgrade America...

    1. Re:slow internets by weirdcrashingnoises · · Score: 1

      the summary states that this is for an average of 12 hours a day, so basically double that to 6.8 Mb/s

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  9. According to comcast by anticlone · · Score: 3, Funny

    only the bandwidth hogs using P2P are responsible for almost all of that. The rest of "normal" American users only read a couple emails a day...

    1. Re:According to comcast by Icegryphon · · Score: 1

      You say that like there is a Shortage of Bandwidth.
      You don't have to stand in line so you can get a roll of bandwidth to wipe your butt.
      Thank god we don't, some people may neglect wiping.

    2. Re:According to comcast by jeffasselin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course there's a shortage, most of the bandwidth mines in North America are already empty. We've importing all our bandwidth from China and Russia for a while now. Is it wise to rely on such countries for our bandwidth?

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    3. Re:According to comcast by gbarules2999 · · Score: 1

      You forgot the porn. Once you factor that in, it makes perfect sense.

    4. Re:According to comcast by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Everybody knows there's a shortage.

    5. Re:According to comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We might need to go to war over this...call it a War for Tera...bytes.

  10. Pretty impressive by dingen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Especially considering 10% of US internet users are still on dial up.

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    1. Re:Pretty impressive by castironpigeon · · Score: 1

      ... and 30% presumably have no internet access. http://www.websiteoptimization.com/bw/0906/

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    2. Re:Pretty impressive by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      Especially considering 10% of US internet users are still on dial up.

      Why yes, yes I am (for various technical and economic reasons)

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  11. What's this information business? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Shouldn't it be parsed out further into [A: something close to Truth, and B: Lies]?

  12. I can believe it by alop · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just think of ALL the information... Pandora in the background, HDTV at home... pr0n.... SMS messages. I guess this includes things like the Newspaper you'd pick up in the morning, or the leaflet you grab in a lobby of a building. It can all be considered data.

    I would be interested in how much *information* we consume also.

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    1. Re:I can believe it by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 2, Funny

      [..] SMS messages [..]

      Yes, those really add up.

    2. Re:I can believe it by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Wait until they start offering SMS in HD.

    3. Re:I can believe it by cerberusss · · Score: 3, Insightful

      [..] SMS messages [..]

      Yes, those really add up.

      On your bill, they do!!

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  13. Channel capacity? by 1zenerdiode · · Score: 1

    But, most humans only have a channel capacity of a few *bits* per decision. Means most of this consumption is not even considered; it just gets dumped. (an advertiser would tell you that getting a few of those bits is worth it, though).

    1. Re:Channel capacity? by bipbop · · Score: 1

      I'm not aware of any context in which this makes sense. Could you please provide a reference so I can read more?

    2. Re:Channel capacity? by damien_kane · · Score: 1

      I'm not aware of any context in which this makes sense. Could you please provide a reference so I can read more?

      Yes
      No
      Maybe

      2 bits, or one bit with a fuzzy logic state.

    3. Re:Channel capacity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.musanim.com/miller1956/

  14. Definitions so broad as to be pointless by richmaine · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Their definitions almost allow grandma to count time sitting in a rocking chair on the porch watching the outside world as "consuming information". Lots of bits of data comming into those eyeballs. Or maybe even if she closes her eyes and starts daydreaming, those dreams count too. :-)

    When a "report" spends a substantial amount of time explaining the notations for large numbers, it is a pretty clear sign that it isn't a very serious work.

    1. Re:Definitions so broad as to be pointless by gzearfoss · · Score: 1

      You hit this on the head. It's easy to get gigantic numbers when everything coming in counts as data.

      In addition, they count all 'data streams' received as being consumed, despite the chances of occurring at the same time. It's like saying that a hydroelectric dam consumes all water that passes it - whether it passes through the turbines or over the causeway.

      There may be some interest in comparing the change in this number as a percent, but the fact "34 Gigabytes consumed per day" by itself means next to nothing.

    2. Re:Definitions so broad as to be pointless by gandhi_2 · · Score: 1

      Since all the visual information has nearly-infinite resolution and analog color depth is infinitely-nuanced, your grandma is consuming +infinity bits of information at any given time. Sound and smell data...who knows.

      Someone should throttle her connection, she's hogging all the bandwidths.

    3. Re:Definitions so broad as to be pointless by LandDolphin · · Score: 1

      I'm not understanding the Dam Metaphor. Could you rephrase it using cars instead of a dam and water?

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    4. Re:Definitions so broad as to be pointless by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Sure, here you go buddy.

      In addition, they count all 'data streams' received as being consumed, despite the chances of occurring at the same time. It's like saying that a hydroelectric car consumes all water that passes it - whether it passes through the turbines or over the causeway.

    5. Re:Definitions so broad as to be pointless by gzearfoss · · Score: 1

      Well, it's not cars, but consider the humble radio. When I am studying, I like to have the radio on in the background. I also have a favorite radio show that, when it comes on, I try to drop everything and listen to.
      According to the measurement system used in the study, I am 'consuming' both the background noise and the radio show equally, in terms of time spent and in content consumed. I think that what I draw from what I am exposed to should be measured as content consumed - because otherwise I use as much sound content from the radio show as I do from the air conditioning system at work.

  15. Oh man by thelonious · · Score: 1

    I was just scanning the auction house, jeeze!

  16. Outdated Americans? by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If the average American gets 44.8% of their information from the TV, per day. Something is wrong with the MPAA/RIAA's facts. Also odd seems to be the 10.59% of radio that the average American listens to. And also strange is the 1.11% of recorded music that the average American listens to. That means that 55.44% of words that Americans listen to is controlled by many factors, including the government and private (think RIAA/MPAA) interests. This study should more or less prove that the RIAA is in no danger, as user created and RIAA/MPAA uncontrolled mediums only add up to 28.28% of what an average American is exposed to.

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    1. Re:Outdated Americans? by AndersOSU · · Score: 0, Troll

      government or private interests... what else is there?

      I know you're trying to make a dig at the the corporate media hegemony (which incidentally isn't a private interest but rather a public one), but your statement is almost as meaningless as the study. Not all info that makes it to our retinas is equal, just because some poor sap actually made it to page 7F of Today's Washington Times, doesn't mean the data was consumed in any meaningful way.

      Also, consuming information isn't really what the content industry want from you. They either want you to buy information, or sell your retina time to an advertiser. Remember, every time you go to news.google.com, you're stealing from Rupert Murdoch - you're consuming data, but no one's getting paid - and according to the conservipedia bible project, this makes baby jesus cry.

  17. Consumed...? by eepok · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ya... I consumed 64GB per day. That's right. I also consumed a couch last night. And I consumed an apartment. And I consumed a 2009 Mazda MP3. And I consumed a Christmas tree.

    Sensationalist weasel words...

    1. Re:Consumed...? by dingen · · Score: 3, Funny

      You must be heavily obese.

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    2. Re:Consumed...? by gandhi_2 · · Score: 1

      At least he's keeping a balanced diet.

    3. Re:Consumed...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, his apartment's really small. Economy's rough.

    4. Re:Consumed...? by ahem · · Score: 3, Funny

      He's actually just a *really* obsessive Katamari player.

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    5. Re:Consumed...? by a+whoabot · · Score: 1

      So what is your argument exactly?

      That they are using the word "consumed" in the way you are using it when you say "I consumed a Christmas tree" and that that use is sensationalist? And the way you are using it is to claim that you are in the process of consuming it, but it is not wholly consumed yet? So your argument is that it is sensationalist because the wording makes it seem like the thing which is said to be "consumed" has become wholly consumed when in reality it is only being consumed and not yet wholly consumed?

      But why do you assume they are using it in that way? Maybe they are actually talking about information which has been wholly consumed.

    6. Re:Consumed...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey I won't lie. When I got deeply hooked on Katamari, I used to just see the world as things to pick up, and I used to pick the best way to pick everything up in my head. Kind of like playing chess without a chessboard. I'm sure someone else will admit to this?.... ok I am a coward, but someone may login and admit to this.

    7. Re:Consumed...? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      yeah, lots of fiber in that tree.

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    8. Re:Consumed...? by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the Tetris Effect.

      If you play any game enough it tends to consume cognitive resources in interesting ways.

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    9. Re:Consumed...? by alexo · · Score: 1

      And more than enough minerals in the Mazda.

    10. Re:Consumed...? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Mmmmhh... Christmas trees... *drool*

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  18. "consumed" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    and expelled as ejaculate.

  19. 12 hours per day? I call shenanigans. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This doesn't include information at work. -8 hours. The average person doesn't consume information while sleeping. -8 hours (OK, not a full 8, but add in a shower and a shave, brushing teeth, etc. and call it 8). So how, exactly, do I consume 12 hours worth of information in my 8 waking, non-working hours?

    1. Re:12 hours per day? I call shenanigans. by AndersOSU · · Score: 1

      Because your dreams were derived from the latest adaptation of A Christmas Carol Disney holds the rights to them.

  20. This number is meaningless by jcronen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This number is entirely meaningless.

    Is a phone conversation "consumed" as its transcript (a few hundred bytes) or as an audio file (a few hundred kb) or a really well sampled audio file that conveys nuance perfectly (a few Mb)?

    A tweet is 140 characters, but if I were to take a screenshot of a screen with Twitter (and about 20 tweets) that could be a couple of Mb.

    And much of that "data" could be compressed in a meaningful way. I spend most of my day in my cubicle staring at my monitor. Does all of the visual data that my eyes are receiving (about eight hours' worth of grey walls and a small computer monitor's contents) count?

    1. Re:This number is meaningless by McNihil · · Score: 1

      Or why not take a couple of 100MP shots of the screen at different light and angles and post those huge file... should be worth a couple of gigs right there :D

    2. Re:This number is meaningless by McNihil · · Score: 1

      And I mean posting it as bmp's with full 32 RGBA glory!

      Oh did I crack someones monitor? Sorry!

    3. Re:This number is meaningless by xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D · · Score: 3, Informative

      It shouldn't be entirely meaningless. Claude Shannon showed that no matter how you represent something, it contains the same amount of information. If I remember right, he did a study early on that showed that each letter in English text carries, on average, about 1 bit of information (in the information theory sense of "information"). You can store it in ASCII or UCS-4 or as a JPEG and even though the different representations require different amounts of data, they all contain the same amount of information: some representations just have more redundancy than others. (Sadly it's undecidable to determine how much information something contains; otherwise compression would be a lot easier).

      Unfortunately this study seems to have ignored all of that good research and ignored the whole field of "information theory" in general. The numbers they're using on page 8 are totally exaggerated and seem to have no basis in information theory. There's no way a "small picture" contains 8 million bits of information, and even if it did there's no way a person could actually appreciate all that information unless they were staring at it for hours.

    4. Re:This number is meaningless by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      A phone conversation would be a 64 kbps audio file (on PSTN, or less than that on a cellphone). You get more than just the text from listening to someone speak.

    5. Re:This number is meaningless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree their evaluation of consumption seems completely fair and meaningful in terms of what our ISPs get to look foward to. I believe their goal is to reflect what our internet consumption would be if we were to recieve all our daily information from the internet, as that is the trend we are heading toward. We've begun to seek our entertainment needs previously fulfilled by TV on sites like hulu, youtube, etc., our news from online websites, our movies on demand, our music through streaming online radio. This is all causing panic amongst our ISPs who are not prepared for the increase in data consumption.
      My guess is that they probably based all the data as if it were transmitted over the internet, ie: phone conversation as if it were a VOIP call with compression that yields a quality similar to the phone conversation. Your twitter tweets would be counted by the total data your computer recieved when it sent the request to download the page, your radio usage would be counted with data rates like internet radio, and tv watching as if you were watching a streaming video of broadcast quality.
      If they were to attempt to measure your consumption, they would likely assume that you had all your data stored on a server you were linked to through the internet (think Google Docs and FTP).

    6. Re:This number is meaningless by goodmanj · · Score: 1

      Agree. This is a statistic I've thought about a lot, and eventually come to the conclusion that it can't really be measured.

      In addition to your points, other signs that this report is useless:

      * Byte count depends on compression. If I watch the same video stream using a new high-tech encoding that halves the bytecount without affecting quality, am I consuming less information? Of course not. If I listen to a CD and then listen to the same album on MP3, am I consuming less information? No.

      * Data is not compared apples-to-apples in the report. Computer gaming is supposedly the vast majority of data use by bytecount, but that's only because it's measured by uncompressed video card throughput, while TV is measured by the size of the compressed video stream.

      Interesting topic, useless conclusions.

    7. Re:This number is meaningless by goodmanj · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, once you're dealing with lossy compression schemes (which accounts for the vast majority of compressed data in use today), you can pretty much throw Shannon out the window.

      The bit rate of a lossy-compressed signal has very little to do with its content and much more with the limits and tolerance of human perception.

    8. Re:This number is meaningless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From that reasoning we should conclude that typical television contains about 1 Bit/s of information.

    9. Re:This number is meaningless by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 1

      I consume many terabytes of data an hour, once you consider visual, audio, and sensory perception. If you're going with raw data, you just only really need to know the number of hours awake to figure out the data rate per year.

    10. Re:This number is meaningless by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

        Take any X number of people in a random sample, show them a visual scene, or play an audio sequence for them, printed word, whatever, and the amount of data they actually "consume" (ie, actively or passively notice and/or act upon) will vary widely between the subjects.

        As just one example of this, look at automobiles and drivers and the witnesses to accidents.

        Information is useless if it isn't actually noticed by the processes in the brain, and I doubt there's any way to find out just how much is actually utilized even as an average. It's simply too complicated.

        So while one can say, as you do, that representation of information has a basic fundamental metric, the actual USE of such information varies so widely as not be something we can estimate. The use of information is what is being discussed here, not information itself (and even there one can go lots further - one could say that an article in a piece of newsprint contains information that can be represented on the atomic, subatomic or quantum levels in addition to what's directly usable by the human brain, although for the most part that's also meaningless when it comes general understanding of it - and physicists and chemists may argue that point :)

        Not to mention that the word "consumption" hardly applies to information in most of it's forms, except perhaps material items such as newsprint and books. To "consume" means to use up, ie, we consume food. Nobody in their right mind says that we consume a radio broadcast, or a tv show, or a piece of music. Infinitely replicable data such as TV broadcasts, radio, internet, etc, cannot be considered to be limited in supply (unless you listen to the RIAA).

        So yeah, basically, this article is meaningless bullshit meant to sell useless, bogus information to ignorant consumers. Hah :)

        Personally, I find the whole concept of statistics as applied to human behavior and mental states a silly endeavor. It makes some of those people a lot of money, tho.

      SB

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    11. Re:This number is meaningless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We used a specific definition of "information," and based on that used the actual transmission rates when they existed, whatever they were. This is not the same as a Shannon number because nobody uses optimal compression; but it's in the same ballpark. For example:
      SDTV 4 Mbps
      Cellular voice 10kbps (heavily compressed)
      Landline voice 64kbps
      Books 1.3kbps (based on a reading speed of 250 wpm and 2 bytes per character e.g. Unicode)
      IMO these are defensible within a factor of 2 or 3 (Of course I'm the lead author, so I have to think that or I would have come up with different numbers!)

      There's no way a "small picture" contains 8 million bits of information, and even if it did there's no way a person could actually appreciate all that information unless they were staring at it for hours.

      Regarding the "small picture" you must be thinking of the Internet; I was thinking of something you shoot yourself. My camera spits out 1 MB jpg all the time. In any case, we did not use the numbers on page 8; look on page 32.

      The hardest to figure is a reasonable bit rate for computer games. They are hardware dependent, but also depend on type of game, style of play, video settings, etc. Suggestions welcome; hard data is even more welcome. I've hired a grad student to try to pin this down a little closer.

      (I'm going to cross post this on my blog Art2science.org.)

  21. Resource overuse by mtrachtenberg · · Score: 5, Funny

    While the average American uses 34 gig per day, the average citizen of a developing country uses only 27.3 megabytes.

    A proposal to cap and trade rights to generate and transmit information was introduced today by Bernie Sanders; Fox News immediately called it a "dangerous step towards communism."

    Sarah Palin said she didn't believe Americans used that much more information than the rest of the world, and if we did it's just because Americans are smarter.

    President Obama, in a forty minute speech (30.27 gig), explained the details of information theory and laid out a twenty point plan for getting Congress to reduce Americans' transmission of information by 10% over the next thirty years. A coalition of conservative Democrats replied that the President, while obviously well-informed, was moving too aggressively, and that more research was needed.

    George W Bush asked what a gigabyte was.

    1. Re:Resource overuse by mtrachtenberg · · Score: 1

      In other news, the Defense Advanced Research Agency, in association with MIT (a wholly owned subsidiary), announced that it would be hiding the Democratic party's cojones at three sites, each visible from roads. The Republican party's heart, once located, will be placed at a fourth site. The American people's intelligence... no, never mind.

    2. Re:Resource overuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awesome. Mod parent up!

    3. Re:Resource overuse by tmosley · · Score: 1

      George W Bush asked what a gigabyte was.

      Technically, he asked what a jiggabyte is. He then asked if it had anything to do with nukeular bombs.

    4. Re:Resource overuse by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 1

      How many millions is a Brazilian?

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    5. Re:Resource overuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Later, Mr. Bush revised his stance to assert that he "fully supports American Informationalism".

      - T

    6. Re:Resource overuse by sorak · · Score: 1

      So is this to reduce global warming by capping hot air?

      If so, then it won't work too well, because it's cap and trade. FoxNews can buy their bullshit subsidies from CNN, who will use the money to buy 12 new monitors, so their anchors can read viewers twitter and emails on the air, which contributes even more...

      Oh, well..It was worth a try.

  22. Daily wtf by aBaldrich · · Score: 1

    When calculating the number of bytes of "information" they add: TV, Radio, etc etc, and GAMES. Games are 54.62% of the total number of bytes (see the figure 2 in page 11). Of course, you play 30 minutes GTA 4, that's like 8 gigas of your daily average. (estimate you dont access 100% of the gameplay in 30 mins, but car physics and 3d textures add a LOT of "information". Figure 11 in page 26 shows how computer games affect the equation: they take less than 10% of the average "time" and over 50% of the average "bytes of information".

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  23. Gaming... by gabereiser · · Score: 0

    I'll admit to sucking up gb's of data gaming. It's interesting to see their research. I know a lot of my coworkers probably suck up over a gb a day in facebook alone. Ohh facebook, how you consume idle time.....

  24. they must of used a lot of non comcast customes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they must of used a lot of non comcast customes

  25. window by bigdavex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I look outside my window and observe reality in its full high-definion glory, am I consuming data?

    If not, what if I set up a camera outside my home and watch the video feed on my televion?

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    1. Re:window by kimvette · · Score: 1

      TFS and TFA grossly underestimate the data stream, at least for people who are not blind. The whole time our eyes are open, you and I are consuming terabytes' worth of high definition "video" per hour, and it is all processed in realtime. What is the resolution of the human eye equivalent to in terms of pixels at a given viewing distance, what would the color depth be, and what would that stream be uncompressed? That doesn't take into account the equivalent data produced by your other four senses.

      However, there is a more crucial issue at stake here, and it is one I haven't yet seen addressed in TFA:

      What is the quantity of data if measured in /. standard units, i.e., either Libraries of Congress or Volkswagens? THAT is what I want to know!

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    2. Re:window by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well in some ways, yes, you are.

      You are consuming the energy that lit up said reality.

    3. Re:window by zkp · · Score: 1

      Who consumes more "information"? Person A: Has poor eyesight, but watches his high definition television Person B: Has 20/20 vision, but watches his old black and white TV

    4. Re:window by schmiddy · · Score: 1

      ... observe reality in its full high-definion glory, ...

      Cool! Do you have some of these sunglasses too!?!?

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    5. Re:window by BigMike1020 · · Score: 1

      If I look outside my window and observe reality in its full high-definion glory, am I consuming data?

      If not, what if I set up a camera outside my home and watch the video feed on my televion?

      How do you yell at the kids on your lawn if you aren't sitting on your porch?

  26. Not including work? by flibbidyfloo · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure how I'm supposedly consuming information for 12 hours a day not including my time at work. After I work for 8 hours and sleep for 8 hours, there are only 8 hours left in the day, and I'm not "consuming information" for about 100% of that remaining time. Is the average being pumped up by all the people who aren't working and are sitting at home watching daytime TV for 16 hours a day? I wouldn't consider that "information" anyway, but the study might.

    1. Re:Not including work? by Zanix · · Score: 1
      I was going to make a similar comment but then I went started reading the report for ammunition. Right there on page 11 it reads:

      We do not adjust for double counting in our analysis. If someone is watching TV and using the computer at the same time, our data sources will record this as two hours of total information. This is consistent with most other researchers. Note, though, that this means there are theoretically more than 24 hours in an information day!

      So basically they say that most americans work, sleep and spend at least 4 of their other hours multitasking between TV and Computer.

  27. Anthropomorphizing data by mattOzan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Data is not "consumed." That is a ridiculous way to put it. Tt has no shelf life, it produces no waste byproducts, it can be reused indefinitely. It is transmitted, stored, deleted, and maybe in there it delivers information to a brain. Even then, do we really delete data, or just representations of data?

    1. Re:Anthropomorphizing data by wdavies · · Score: 1

      actually, I believe physics shows there is an energy cost to data, or rather more precisely maintaining information. Too early in the morning for me to go and look it up in Wikipedia. I'm sure someone can elaborate. I believe data doesn't have an independent existence - if a picture is on a hard-drive, and you drop it in acid, that picture, is gone. Sure it existed in some time frame, but you REALLY can't afford the energy to retrieve it.

    2. Re:Anthropomorphizing data by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You should never anthropomorphize data -- it hates it when you do that!

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    3. Re:Anthropomorphizing data by Saint+Stephen · · Score: 1

      The picture is not the bits - I don't see bits, I see the picture.

  28. how much data collected per person per day? by bugi · · Score: 2, Funny

    More interesting would be how much data is collected on each American each day.

    Be sure to count each datum separately for each person to make sure it's a big number. Please also break it down into several categories, both private and government.

  29. Do not disturb, idiots at work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fish I caught was at least thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis big. Cuz biggar R bettar, u kno.

  30. Shameful by miasmic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Shameful.

    Shameful that the 'researchers' thought this information worthy of release - anyone with brain cells would revise their metrics after their data showed results like this.

    Shameful that the NY Times didn't discard it as self-promotional garbage from UCSD.

    Shameful that it made it to the front page of Slashdot.

    Shameful.

    1. Re:Shameful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you read the whole report? Because it sounds like you didn't. It sounds like you just read enough to judge.

  31. Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by IANAAC · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I'm only half joking.

    If you visit any sort of tech site, you see the same stories/pictures/videos on many, many sites (this is from a blog, but I read the same story over on Gizmodo this morning).

    I remember when you could come to slashdot and truly read original content. Now all these sites just seem to regurgitate the same thing.

    1. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by SomeJoel · · Score: 4, Funny

      I remember when you could come to slashdot and truly read original content. Now all these sites just seem to regurgitate the same thing.

      The original content appears in the comments.

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    2. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, beowulf cluster of the Natalie Portman's hot grits welcome you as their overlord.

    3. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1

      halcyon1234 notes that 'the original content appears in the comments', says tech site Salshdot regular SomeJoel.

      Update: as several readers have pointed out, the name of the site in question is "Slashdot" and not "Salshdot".

      tags: yes no maybe fuckyouhalcyon1234 micro$oft !dupe dupe

    4. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by IANAAC · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, beowulf cluster of the Natalie Portman's hot grits welcome you as their overlord.

      This was modded off-topic, but it nicely pokes fun at the "original content". Something the moderator apparently missed.

    5. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      It's only original until it gets a +5. Then it's repeated over and over...

    6. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by geekboy642 · · Score: 1

      "Oh, well, uhh...I lurked. Yeah, that's it. I lurked for years. Man, I was reading when Taco posted with his uid 1 account. I'm original geek, man!"

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    7. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, beowulf cluster of the Natalie Portman's hot grits welcome you naked and petrified, as their overlord

      fixed that for you

    8. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember when you could come to slashdot and truly read original content. Now all these sites just seem to regurgitate the same thing.

      The original content appears in the comments.

      I, for one, welcome our comment-based original content overlords.

    9. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got mine. ^_^

    10. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what people always say.

    11. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that is all I read.

    12. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly;

      I for one welcome our original content generating overlords.

      In Russia, content originates you.

      Does the original content run Linux?

      1) Generate Original Content
      2) ?????
      3) Profit

      etc.

    13. Re:Or reposts of the same story everywhere... by acheron12 · · Score: 1

      I remember when you could come to slashdot and truly read original content. Now all these sites just seem to regurgitate the same thing.

      Obligatory Dilbert

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  32. National Broadband Plan a Success! by Neuroelectronic · · Score: 0

    I see that the last mile problem has been solved. This is great! We have solved all the major issues with America including the depression, spiraling medical costs, outsourcing of jobs and crime simply with better reports.

  33. Statistics... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lies,

    Damn Lies,

    Statistics.

  34. Prolific by countertrolling · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What has become prolific is the amount of useless (read advertising) information consumed each day. And, ironically, we consume more paper (in our paperless society) than ever to print all this crap out. The bean counting business has never been better. Just another day in a bureaucrat's paradise...

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  35. Broadband definition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why the US definition for Broadband need to be at least 1Mbps, preferrably higher!

  36. Each American Consumed 34 Gigabytes Per Day In '08 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ohs nos, Think of the children. What will they ever do? What kind of future is there when all the bits are consumed?

  37. What about our eyes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Did they forget to account that my eyes see at a higher quality than blue ray with a much wider camera angle.
    Figure a blu ray movie is equal to 10 gb per hour and im awake for about 16 hours each day so thats like 160 GB of video data I consume.

    1. Re:What about our eyes? by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1

      If I remember right (i.e. I'm too lazy to google it just now), optic nerve throughput is about 3MB/sec. which isn't much until you consider that it's on about 16 hours a day or about 172,800 meg per day of visual information transferred, processed and spat back out again in the form of photoshopped celebrity pictures and LOL cats.

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  38. Or is "TMZ" type crap by crovira · · Score: 2, Insightful

    where even the original is content-less, never mind all of the repros and repeats.

    There is an awful lot of crap on the tube, in print and in the movies which is just more-of-the-same.

    Still, with the internet, the population of the western world and Europe has never been so educated nor have had they has such opportunity to drink so deeply from the fount of knowledge.

    I blame "The System" for teaching these unwashed masses to read. :-)

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  39. ADVERTS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i wonder how much of that is advertisements

  40. Yes and... by shaitand · · Score: 3, Insightful

    any ISP peak bandwidth caps should be required by the fcc to use this as a baseline. Caps below the consumption of the average american are obviously anti-consumer.

    This includes cell phone data plans of course.

  41. Data is just data. by crovira · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Knowledge is data in some form of context.

    Wisdom is the ability to shape these contexts correctly.

    This "34 Gigabytes consumed per day" metric is worth nothing except to estimate the size of the pipe required to deliver the bilge.

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    1. Re:Data is just data. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I imagine this is partially the point...

      http://mathworld.wolfram.com/InformationTheory.html

      Information theory has proven its usefulness hundreds of times over... why not apply it to the human mind/eye circuit? Interesting and perhaps useful results may be found...

  42. Jasper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    34 Gigabytes, nothing but cats.

  43. Is there value in 34 gigabytes? by box330 · · Score: 1

    Not everything that counts, can be counted / Not everything that can be counted, counts. Does 34 gigabytes per day have any value? That depends on whether or not you are a bureaucrat in a recession. What would be the value of 34 gigabytes per day be if you were a bereacrat? That depends on whether you are a red bureacrat or blue bureacrat.

  44. Let me be the first to say: by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Bwwwuuuuuuurrrrrp!

  45. 34GB... by WidgetGuy · · Score: 1

    Per day? Hell, I do that before breakfast. Above average again! Damn, life is sweet.

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  46. Data, not Information by Exanon · · Score: 1

    Having taken "Informatics" (which I still consider a useless course as this is the first time I have had a chance to use it in everyday life) at the university I studied at, I feel obligated to point out the fact that "information" only exists when you take "data" and put it together with a "frame of reference". Hence, the "recievers" are getting so and so many gigabytes of "data" as opposed to information.

    1. Re:Data, not Information by MathiasRav · · Score: 1

      Are you being "sarcastic"?

    2. Re:Data, not Information by Exanon · · Score: 1

      No, just being "irked" and "miffed" by not having any use for some university courses.

  47. double counting by bugi · · Score: 1

    I would be more interested in how much information was processed overall, as in without counting each tv show separately for each person watching it.

    1. Re:double counting by zkp · · Score: 1

      If a high definition television gets turned on in a forest and no is there to watch, does it consume information?

  48. Damn and blast by Gogogoch · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bugger - I only have a 56K modem.

  49. Huh... by Thorkull · · Score: 0

    How many calories is that?

  50. median != mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    First off, "your average person" implies the median person. The statistic to which this is referring is a per capita consumption, which is a mean. With such a skewed distribution (VERY large outliers), median != mean != mode, or probably anywhere close. Only with a normal distribution (or similar) does mean = median. Therefore, assuming "the average person" implies the median person, or even the mode person, the comment by the submitter is wrong.

  51. Wot, no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nomnomnom tag?

  52. Eat? by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 1

    Today I ate a carrot, which is estimated at over 1*10^9 cells, each cell has over 4*10^8 worth of DNA base pairs, at 2 bits each, that's over 100 quadrillion bytes.
    I suspect the average American eats more than one carrot a day...

  53. You're not thinking this through by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What needs to be done is recording the position, frequency, and time of every photon that contacts your eye. Don't forget to use 216-bit integers for timestamps, in planck times relative to the beginning of the universe.

  54. Fox News is not subtracted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even though liberals hate all truth, Fox is just counted as data.

  55. /dev/null by Singularity42 · · Score: 1

    I think you are intelligent, by your use of "/dev/null". You are also signalling your intelligence. Others who understand this are probably intelligent as well (those who replied for example).

  56. Umm. but what about what we see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and hear etc..?

    A quick googling states the the "pixel" resolution of a human eye is 576 megapixels. And lets give a conservative estimate for the refresh rate of a human eye: 30Hz. If your eyes are open for just 12 hours a day you see 76 * (10^6) * 16 * 30 * 60^2 * 12 bits = 1390457.15 GB of visual data.

    These statistics are stupid.

  57. 2500 calories by hmar · · Score: 1
    your average American consumed 34 gigabytes per day.

    What is my daily allotment based on a 2500 calorie diet?

  58. Data-consumption-hours intensity of GDP? by tee-rav · · Score: 1

    Let's use these numbers constructively: 1.3 trillion hours consuming data, $14 trillion GDP. America produced $10.76/hour of data consumption by Americans. If we slow our connections down by 50%, we halve content, double the hours of data consumption, and thereby double GDP overnight, without mandating the consumption of one bit of additional data! Clearly a win-win.

  59. That's Impossible because of my ISP... by socz · · Score: 1

    My ISP caps me at 100GB a month! NO WAY I could do 32 a day!!!!!!!!!

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  60. I wonder what the median is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    THe median would be a better measure here since it's highly unlikely bandwidth consumption is a normal random variable.

  61. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 0

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  62. Exaggeration? It depends on how you count bits... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They can ONLY reach those numbers by counting digital television.

    But, are they counting the compressed bits, or uncompressed? Before an image reaches the display, it must be uncompressed.

    Even staring at a modern DVI-or-HDMI-connected computer monitor with a static, unchanging picture/image is to be staring at an amazing stream of uncompressed bits flying at your eyes. Are they counting this?

    My monitor I'm looking at right now is 1920x1080 @ 60Hz, RGB-8-bit color, DVI-connected, a data rate streaming at me of nearly 1.5 gigabits per second. Whether computing, looking at a screensaver, typing, or watching HD video, that doesn't change. So if I'm looking at it 2 hours a day, that's ( 1,485 megabits * 60 seconds/minute * 60 minutes/hours * 2 hours ) all divided by 8 bits/byte = 180 gigabits, or roughly 1 1/4 terabytes of data. Perhaps I average that over 30 days. That's over 38 terabytes per month.

    I guess that answers my question. A person watching full 1080p HDTV at least 2 hours per day should also hit the 38 terabyte per month figure at least.

    So the article is off by several considerable orders of magnitude.

    Hehe!

  63. It sounds like a lot consumed by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 1

    however it was mostly catabolic data, consuming more information that it provided.

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  64. I just had a salmon sandwich by aynoknman · · Score: 1
    There was doubtless some human DNA in the sandwich. As well, sock-eye salmon, margarine (that's got whey which implies bovine and probably soya and/or canola), wheat, yeast. I wonder how many hundreds of different kinds of bacteria.

    The human genome is about 800 megabytes. I'll bet that with the one sandwich I consumed far more than my daily 34 gigabytes. This doesn't include the information processes involved in bringing that food in its current form into my kitchen, or the dustmites and mold spores and ...

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  65. 34 GB a day? by rgviza · · Score: 1

    Lets see what's skewed that average:
    p2p compulsive downloaders stealing music, movies, software and porn 24x7 60% avg: 350GB a day
    windows malware sending spam 28% avg 15GB a day
    users downloading netflix and other legitimate media they paid for 8% avg 4GB a day
    median user using internet for news and email 4% avg .01 GB a day

    Look ma, I can make up statistics too! Mine are probably more accurate.

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    1. Re:34 GB a day? by VisceralLogic · · Score: 1

      In the past 16 hours (of which I was asleep for approximately 8), my laptop has consumed 130 MB of data. Of course, I've also consumed a few on my work PC over the past 3 hours. But still, I'm definitely not going to hit 34 GB/day.

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  66. But my laptop only has 4 MB of RAM by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    and it hardly ever writes to disk, so you guys better stop using up all the Gigabytes!

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  67. total garbage by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    meaningless I don't think is a strong enough word. Stupid comes to mind.

    Other examples might be me consuming information by say looking at a tree for 10min. That's like better than 1080p man!

    Perhaps doing anything in life I am gathering "information", though like my senses, like touching or hearing things... not to mention my extra sensory perceptions!

    Also to add an additional level of stupidity/complexity are those 34GB compressed or not? If so all those memories in photo or video format could be totally reduced (and to be honest they likely are).

    Anyway I have already spent 10 minutes too many writing about this ridiculous topic.

  68. Wow. by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    30% of internet users have no internet access? That is truly alarming. But impressive.

  69. Odd... by PirateBlis · · Score: 0

    The title of this makes me feel like I should be a yellow circle and running from ghosts...

  70. TFS and TFA grossly underestimate the data stream by kimvette · · Score: 1

    TFS and TFA grossly underestimate the data stream, at least for people who are not blind. The whole time our eyes are open, you and I are consuming terabytes' worth of high definition "video" per hour, and it is all processed in realtime. What is the resolution of the human eye equivalent to in terms of pixels at a given viewing distance, what would the color depth be, and what would that stream be uncompressed? That doesn't take into account the equivalent data produced by your other four senses.

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  71. Only 1/3 more data than in 1981! by shking · · Score: 1

    These data suggest that consumption has only increaded by 1/3 in 30 years!. If you factor in the fact that the internet has displaced a significant amount of TV viewing and book reading, then growth in data consumtion is even less.

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  72. Work not included? by RobVB · · Score: 1

    From the executive summary: 'In 2008, Americans consumed information for about 1.3 trillion hours, an average of almost 12 hours per day. Consumption totaled 3.6 zettabytes and 10,845 trillion words, corresponding to 100,500 words and 34 gigabytes for an average person on an average day. A zettabyte is 10 to the 21st power bytes, a million million gigabytes. These estimates are from an analysis of more than 20 different sources of information, from very old (newspapers and books) to very new (portable computer games, satellite radio, and Internet video). Information at work is not included.'

    12 hours a day of data consumption, work not included? Either you Americans don't sleep, or we've just found a possible cause of the economic crisis.

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  73. TV and BluRay shouldn't count by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Useful data is very different from "data" like TV and movies.

    I was a TV-a-holic and have a movie collection with almost 1 thousand DVDs. I haven't jumped to BluRay - not a sports or pron fan, so anything better than DVD seems a waste of money to me.

    Isn't the average BluRay disk 35GB? Then add the 10GB of stuff they make you watch that you don't want to watch on that disk. No thanks.

  74. Bandwidth of the human eye... by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    ...times 2 times 2/3 times 300 million and you've got it.

    Notes:
        Other senses are negligible in data rate compareed to the eye
        2 eyes
        assume people are awake two-thirds of the time
        US population is about 300 million

    Of course we still have the question of what it means to "consume" information, but hey, we're all "consumers", right?

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  75. Wonder if they took into account by teknosapien · · Score: 1

    Spam. After all hasn't it been stated that 90% of all traffic on the net is do to spam?

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  76. Where is their common sense? by The+Old+One+666 · · Score: 1

    When I was a university professor, I reserved the right to subtract more than 100% of the value of an exam question if the student gave with a ridiculous answer (for example answering that the current in a circuit with a 12V power supply and resistors with values of Kohms was so many mega amps). I fear that the authors of this work need a similar "wake up" slap.