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YouTube Is Down
A number of readers have noted that YouTube is currently giving back 400 and 502 http errors, and has apparently been doing so for an hour or more. I suggest you use this window of opportunity to get something done: the dancing kitties will still be there when you're done.
Now, there will be more productivity across United States Workforce on Thursday!
Stupidity only gets you so far, then you've gotta try
I'm in the US, and it's working here in the Southeast.
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Seems fine to me...
crazy dynamite monkey
It's like putting my thumb in a dam. It stops the dancing kitties, but hardly slows down the flood of mind-numbing, uh... internetish... stuff.
How does the submitter know that the dancing kitties will still be there? Maybe there's a big fire and all dancing kitties have been burned! ONOES. Or at least, their digital representation has been burned. Still onoes I suppose.
now i'll have to actually WORK ???
this is cruel and unusual punishment. call the human rights conuncil at UN, make them send a strongly worded letter to youtube, this can't go on !!!
What ? Me, worry ?
I'll definitely be getting work done today seeing as Slashdot has run out of actual news.
up and running: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbDcMfu-i4w&feature=fvhl
How is this newsworthy?
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Today Bangalore is playing in the IPL today and youtube is supposed to be streaming the match live. The timing of this outage is almost coincidental. And not all of youtube is down, for instance, I clicked through to this video which seems to be working.
Add to that, the fact that Airtel (my isp) has lifted the bandwidth limits for this particular Youtube channel (they have a local stream point, I guess ... it doesn't cost them upstream).
So as soon as youtube is down, I head a groan all around my floor and people leaving their desks to go watch the match in the cafeteria. One of those odd situations when youtube going down probably caused a drop in productivity ;)
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
here in ohio.
Hey, it's Slashdot here... by the time the news make it to the main headlines, any website downtime can be resolved.
What? No Link?
I checked via ssh -D into four of my machines, two in the US, one in Europe and another in India.
Now, I didn't check from the HK boxes, but I assume it was down for real.
And btw, It's back up now for everyone.
Hmmz, working fine for me here, although I hear other people complain here also.
So the MPAA/RIAA finally forced YouTube to preemptively address all remaining possible copyright issues?
If they had it their way, they would yank the plug on the entire internet.
reverse-slashdotted?
Self proclaimed typo king, and inventor of the bear destroying coffee table (patent not pending).
Amusingly enough, one of my professors attempted to show a YouTube video on UA Flight 232 not an hour ago. It worked after refreshing the page, however - doesn't seem like it was much of an outage. He did draw a cry of "Fail!" from one overzealous student, though. :)
Shroedinger's dancing kitties are simultaneously dancing and sleeping, but Heisenberg's dancing kitties turn into yapping puppies as soon as you look in the box.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
Until you get all the slashdotters going to check the see if the web site is up, then the site gets slashdotted. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
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I've noticed lots of slow responses or no responses from Google servers lately. (Gmail, Google Docs, Google Search, Youtube, Google Maps, etc) It doesn't happen all the time, but many many times throughout the day. Has anyone else noticed this? If so, is anything known about it? DOS, etc?
Ak Ak Ak Ak!
Ak! Ak! Ak!
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
A communications disruption can mean only one thing!
Not only is it "news" it is "good news". That statement actually speaks to your point....
What am I doing wrong?
Dutch news site says claims that it's China's Great Wall of Fire causing the issues in for example the US and Chile.
Dutch version: http://www.nu.nl/internet/2212625/firewall-china-filtert-amerikaans-verkeer.html
Google translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nu.nl%2Finternet%2F2212625%2Ffirewall-china-filtert-amerikaans-verkeer.html&sl=nl&tl=en
Here's the secret to immortality:
Noticed it earlier today. The Twitter-verse of course was immediately complaining about it. As usual I checked the ping, whois, traceroute stuff and it's interesting to say the least:
$ whois youtube.com
Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
YOUTUBE.COM.ZZZZZ.GET.LAID.AT.WWW.SWINGINGCOMMUNITY.COM
YOUTUBE.COM.ZZZZZ.DOWNLOAD.MOVIE.ONLINE.ZML2.COM
YOUTUBE.COM.MORE.INFO.AT.WWW.BEYONDWHOIS.COM
YOUTUBE.COM.LOVES.HILPERS.COM
YOUTUBE.COM.IS.N0T.AS.1337.AS.WWW.GULLI.COM
YOUTUBE.COM
To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the
of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up
with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record.
>>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:59:16 UTC
GULLI.com seems to be somewhere in Germany as per its geo ip.
The stuff above is still what I get back from whois.internic.net.
Wow, just checked for whois google.com and it's coming back worse:
GOOGLE.COM.ZZZZZ.GET.LAID.AT.WWW.SWINGINGCOMMUNITY.COM
GOOGLE.COM.ZZZZZ.DOWNLOAD.MOVIE.ONLINE.ZML2.COM
GOOGLE.COM.ZOMBIED.AND.HACKED.BY.WWW.WEB-HACK.COM
GOOGLE.COM.ZNAET.PRODOMEN.COM
GOOGLE.COM.WORDT.DOOR.VEEL.WHTERS.GEBRUIKT.SERVERTJE.NET
GOOGLE.COM.VN
GOOGLE.COM.UY
GOOGLE.COM.UA
GOOGLE.COM.TW
GOOGLE.COM.TR
GOOGLE.COM.SUCKS.FIND.CRACKZ.WITH.SEARCH.GULLI.COM
GOOGLE.COM.SPROSIUYANDEKSA.RU
GOOGLE.COM.SERVES.PR0N.FOR.ALLIYAH.NET
GOOGLE.COM.SANATATEA-NOASTRA.COM
GOOGLE.COM.SA
GOOGLE.COM.PROGRAMASVIP.COM
GOOGLE.COM.MX
GOOGLE.COM.IS.SHIT.SQUAREBOARDS.COM
GOOGLE.COM.IS.NOT.HOSTED.BY.ACTIVEDOMAINDNS.NET
GOOGLE.COM.IS.HOSTED.ON.PROFITHOSTING.NET
GOOGLE.COM.IS.APPROVED.BY.NUMEA.COM
GOOGLE.COM.HAS.LESS.FREE.PORN.IN.ITS.SEARCH.ENGINE.THAN.SECZY.COM
GOOGLE.COM.DO
GOOGLE.COM.CO
GOOGLE.COM.CN
GOOGLE.COM.CHIQUITASEXY.COM
GOOGLE.COM.BR
GOOGLE.COM.BEYONDWHOIS.COM
GOOGLE.COM.AU
GOOGLE.COM.AR
GOOGLE.COM
Anybody else seeing this?
DOSa and China.
It's clear that the chinese govt. is getting back at Google for uncensoring their searches. Banning the 'droid phones from the chinese telecoms, cutting access to the HK Google site were the first salvos, and perhaps bombing Youtube is just one in a number of hostile steps.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
Invasion
Working well down here...
Now, if Facebook would go down... That would yeild a significant productivity increase.
I've noticed that too in the last 2 weeks.
I have been using it since last night and it has worked throughout from atleast last night up until now. This is a local problem somewhere, not real outage.
HTTP/1.1 400
... the first instance of a website being slashdotted before /. runs the story?
Finally had enough. Come see us over at https://soylentnews.org/
YouTube is down. And a million viewers from /. descend upon it like the plague.
Yeah, that'll help bring it back up...
But I'm a cat... I'm a kitty cat... and I dance, dance, dance... and I dance, dance, dance.
lol
I love that Twitter even has "Service Unavailable" as a trending topic. ;-) heh
"Never give up, for that is just the time and place when the tide will change." -Harriet Beecher Stowe ^_^
First Wikipedia now YouTube!!! We are under cyber attack!!! The end is near!!
Is buying a Harley Davidson as your first motorcycle since you were 16 at age 49 a midlife crisis issue?
Sadly.
welcome to the cloud. for the last few months it has taken me 10 seconds just to delete a hundred emails at a time from gmail. you get your .000000001% of computing time, say thank you and go on your way.
this is why i like my fat clients like the iphone. i can download and view everything on my client and not worry about if it's raining or snowing in the cloud
dito
previously on slashdot:
Hardware: Google Wants To Be Your Electricity Meter on Thursday March 25, @07:57AM
ah well, doesn't matter if I have electricty, youtube is down!
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Same thing here (Morocco) for nearly two weeks now, all Google sites are affected (google.com, Gmail, Blogspot, Youtube, etc.), even doubleclick.net and the domain serving adwords (don't remember the exact) are afected too, which has the effect of slowing the numerous sites using them. I have noticed that this has coincided with a new surge of conflics between Google and the chinese governement, I wonder if this a a massive DDOS attack as a retaliation by pro-governement Chinese hackers, this has already happened in the past.
YouTube, Slashdotted? I doubt Slashdot traffic creates a peak significant enough to be noticed on YouTube's traffic charts. Even if there was a link to an HD video in the submitted story.
we just slashdotted the youtube :D
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I have a theory. I've experienced this for the last week, half-blaming the issue on recently acquiring a new computer. I believe it is related to some kind of change period, especially surrounding YouTube. Google is transitioning YouTube user accounts into full-fledged Google accounts and dropping the legacy YouTube accounts altogether. I found last night that, because I was authenticated with my legacy ID (which was stored in a Google cookie) I couldn't access the website at all. After deleting all YouTube and Google cookies, I was about to access the website with only occasional errors. If you ask me, I'd say that this massive transition might be hammering on their authentication servers.
I'd assume this is because of the root-server records being wonky for a while now, rather than Youtube itself:
https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2010-March/005263.html
Yes, I use Google for DNS and I've notice in the past day or two that it fails for long intervals (many minutes). I also wondered about DOS.
"Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats
when my website was posted on wikipedia, it went down, even though it was hosted by microsuck. It is possible that when a major website is advertising a minor website (or a major website advertises a major website for that matter) that the advertised may go down. However, Youtube is owned by Google, so any downtime created will only affect one of Googles square mile server farms.
Except for Wikipedia. I remember having problems with that site yesterday after I read about it on Slashdot.
Let q be a radix > 1. I am in ur base-q, killing 10 d00ds.
...a couple of hours ago.
Interestingly I was getting a fairly standard plain-text Apache error page on a few page accesses, which gave me the impression something was screwy with DNS.
Back to normal now.
... this should have been on Idle.
Rick Astely hacked it. He is p15SdX0rD they removed his Rick Roll video.
I am Bennett Haselton! I am Bennett Haselton!
when my website was posted on wikipedia, it went down, even though it was hosted by microsuck.
No... I think you mean because it was hosted by Microsoft.
When Walter Koenig's son when missing (and was later found dead), Yahoo was bombing on the connection attempts to Walter's site due to links on Wikipedia and numerous news and info websites across the country. I took over the traffic on one of my servers (the slowest of the bunch) and managed to handle the 300-600 requests per second that the traffic was generating with no problem, all while maintaining an average of 10% CPU load on my ancient Quad 550MHz Xeon 3 Netfinity 7000 M10. I coulda dumped it on our 8-way IBM x440 - but for what reason? The ancient Netfinity didnt even seem to know it was doing anything... an 8-way 2.8GHz machine woulda been severe overkill.
The differences? (1) I dont run Windows Server and/or IIS Server for anything (they are truly toys not designed for handling traffic) - I run WSeB and either LDGW or latest Apache. (2) I dont CPU throttle or bandwidth throttle the connections (not that such would matter with a decent OS or web server - because as noted, we were averaging 10% or less CPU utilization, no real memory utilization (only a few megs more for file caching).
We ran out of outgoing bandwidth long before the server even knew it was doing any work (and that was at over 700 requests per second)... but our peak of 9-10Mbs is trivial compared to the bandwidth Yahoo and Microsoft allocate to their servers and still should not have triggered the server errors Walter's site was reporting - especially since we had to do the move when Walter's site was only serving a measly 80-150 requests per second (well, it was actually serving maybe 40% of those and returning errors the rest of the time).
Sometimes you get what you paid for... other times (using crappy web serving daemons on an even crappier OS) you dont even get that much.
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The YouTube staff now says the downtime was due to a technical error. That really narrows it down.
And here is the link to youtube (so that we stay on topic):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiBooRQcl7c
IIS is actually pretty damn good. I think there's more to this story than you're letting on here. Was his server a shared host? Or perhaps just even older than yours?
Here's an example benchmark: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Management/Apache-20-Holds-Its-Own-in-Performance-Tests/
Admittedly it's an old test (8 years!), and since then, IIS has improved significantly (and no doubt Apache has too). I don't think that the IIS version in that test even uses IO completion ports (and say what you like about the proprietry-ness of MS, they allow any application, including the Windows version of Apache, to use them too).
But even in this old test, they don't struggle with the load you claim IIS struggles with.
IIS was soooo good that when Microsoft bought Hotmail and switched from SunOS and Solaris to IIS, it took many many times the number of servers for it to barely crawl along. (I was there... I worked for UUNet at the time... and any of you who know anything about the Internet from those days know exactly what I am referring to... and any of you who worked for UUNet know it even more (including who, at the time, was really doing MS's MSN and WebTV connections, routing and numerous servers).
What seems to be the big point for comparable performance is having a top of the line box for IIS. Not as much with Apache/Linux or Apache/WSeB or LDGW/WSeB.
Nowadays, that is becoming more important as WinServer2008 needs a LOT of resources in comparison to a similarly capable Apache/Linux or Apache/WSeB or LDGW/WSeB would need.
So, yeah, IIS may be "great" if you can throw the newest, fastest hardware at WinServer 2008 and IIS... but for the rest of us (who also want more flexibility without (a) hassles of installing a ton of extra modules and with (b) keeping to open source solutions) Apache wins hands down.
I've got no intentions of retiring my Netfinity 7000 M10 any time soon. But to run the latest WinServer/IIS, it doesnt even meet 1/2 the hardware requirements in virtually any area - and can outperform the latest WinServer/IIS combination on the latest hardware.
Or... I could always compare my box to an 8 year old review and limit myself to Win2K and an ancient, insecure version of IIS.
Which makes more sense?
(a) Keep running my same ancient hardware on the newest Linux or WSeB builds, along with either Apache or LDGW to get some damn solid performance?
(b) Run an ancient version of Windows (Win2K) and a very old version of IIS (v5 or v4)?
(c) Spend a bunch of money on a new server (or waste the power of our x440) to use the newest WinServer2008/IIS combination to get similar performance to choices (a) or (b) above?
It's all a matter of keeping reality in perspective... thus, your post really doesnt matter as it does not equate to anything that fits within my reality (unless you wanna dump a lot of money my way for an equally redundant machine so I can run Win Server 2008 and the newest IIS... but be warned, if you do that... it'll probably end up getting a faster (ie: less hardware hungry) OS like Linux, WSeB or eComStation and Apache).
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I have experienced this problem too, since I have associated my Google with my Youtube account, to avoid it, you need to log directly with your Youtube account even with the Google invite.
You could easily run Server 2003 on that machine,
Along with it's various unpatched vulnerabilities... which will increase as they end support for it? That leaves the $2000 investment better spent on Win2K8.
it's many many times more than the minimum requirements.
No... it's not. Win2K is suited for that server. WinServer2003 isnt really. Gotta remember, look at the DataCenter requirements (remember the load we are considering):
http://www.petri.co.il/hardware_requirements_for_windows_server_2003.htm
CPUs too slow (and not upgradable in that machine beyond their current 550MHz). Memory is OK. And their "recommended" requirements do not take into account what happens once you apply all the service packs and hotfixes (hence XP was 128MB requirement - and now is a LOT more).
Though I'll admit I am at a loss why server 2008's requirements are so high in comparison to 2003's,
So am I...
especially with the new super-cut-down "core" version. Perhaps it just uses new instruction set extensions, so it doesn't actually require a 1GHz cpu, they just don't make any slower cpus with the necessary instructions.
I'm not saying you should change from Apache, clearly you're used to admining it and Windows Server is not cheap. However, IIS is a lot better than you make out.
IF I want to get a lot more hardware to throw at it.
Again, the issue here is, even if IIS is "as good as" Apache, it requires a lot more hardware under high loads to be as good. It's not just familiarity with Apache (I've managed IIS, Domino, DominoGo and Apache)... it's that I need full performance out of the web server, and if you call Microsoft (I did) they'll laugh at running a bunch of websites using Server2003 on a box as "underpowered" as the Netfinity I have.
To get the recommended "horsepower" would require something akin to my x440. So, why in the world would I want to use an old version of Windows Server (2003) on a machine so powerful, when WSeB and either Apache or LDGW can do the same thing on my ancient box? I'd rather simply set up another WSeB and Apache setup on the x440 and have even more availability that simply get the same as the Netfinity simply because I made the mistake of going Server2003/IIS.
To achieve the same on Server2008, I would need to spend about $20,000 to get a comparable server that is as highly redundant... yeah, I can get a "cheapo" box built with nice components... but I *need* a box, where for other than catastrophic failure, I can hot swap just about anything (NICs, fans, HDDs, power supplies, etc) or can ignore memory errors as the machine auto-switches to a new bank and marks a bank or module bad, or take full advantage of the RAID memory (or, as most server owners know it... RAM... but in the Netfinity's case, it's actually RAM with RAID chips and controllers and ECC and such to ensure constant uptime even in the event of a module or bank failure).
And of course, with how cheap the Netfinity's are, I can simply have a backup on standby for a catastrophic failure - which I do - and still pay far less while retaining the redundancy.
Hopefully that clarifies what I am trying to say...
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