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Safari 5 Released
pknoll writes "Apple has released the fifth version of the Safari web browser, which adds several new features. Reader mode detects multiple-page articles and displays them in their entirety at the click of a button, and most importantly, there is now an official extension API."
Yes, but will it block porn? I wouldn't want my Apple(TM) experience ruined.
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Just like Opera! I think that I'll stick with Firefox and Chrome.
The content extraction feature sounds a lot like the Readable Bookmarlet that I've been running across browsers for the last year.
And Chrome 5 is a speed demon itself. The difference is only 3 percent, and those are Apple's numbers.
Man I love this relentless focus on browser speed over the past few years. If it keeps up for a little longer, I might even be able to browse Slashdot.
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The extensions will be very nice. This is the only reason I would not use safari in the past. Apple was not supporting the use of input managers so this change is welcome.
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Instead of manually entering your scripts, menu items, stylesheets, and commands in a complicated text file
Comedy gold :)
Exactly how dumb does Apple think its users are that a text file is now considered 'complicated'?
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Browsers have come a long way, and as a web designer/dev, it is really great for the industry.
Such a shame for a browser in 2010 that it needs an update for adding a search engine to the available search options.
"If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it's still a foolish thing."
You can only view pages that have been pre-approved by Apple - and Apple gets 30% cut of anything revenue generated by the page.
As an added bonus, any media gets re-routed to iTunes - where Apple will take their 30% cut and wrap it in a container that prevents you from mistakenly trying to use it on a non-Apple device.
But this is all just to protect you and preserve the user experience (patent pending), of course.
Gee, I wonder if Chrome had the site in cache, since you've used it before. Reset both browsers to a clean state and then you may have a valid comparison.
I've found that just blocking sites in my hosts file works much better.
I'm starting to think GNU is the problem with "GNU/Linux" these days.
Can't a text file be as complicated or simple as it is?
I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
Since Apple decided to push Safari out via an iTunes update without asking people, I've refused to ever install it on my box.
If I really want a Webkit browser, I'll run Chrome and/or Rekonq. Chrome already has tons of extensions, is FOSS, and runs amazingly fast.
If Chrome supported a proper adblocking solution, I'd never need another browser. And yes, I know they had an Adblock extension, but it still renders ads in the background. I want to stop the ads from being downloaded or rendered at all.
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Oh that's what I was doing, but I accidentally built a Slashdot client into the network driver, that's what happens when the source text file gets too complicated.
which is totally what she said
Have you ever seen a sendmail config file?
so if we cut out all the stuff one can do and see and say in the browser of course it will be fast cause your conversations and visits will be short
I think emacs has a macro for that.
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Personally, I'm hopeful that the extension API is a unified API that appears in both Safari and Mobile Safari. My only complaint with my iPhone is the lack of an AdBlock extension. The web looks so ugly and loads so slowly without one!
Possibly, but here is an even better comparison with two cached pages. When you click "back" in Safari it loads the page layout and text first and then loads the images. Chrome loads the entire page at once, which is a lot less visually jarring. You can also notice this in the scrollbar which in Safari will keep changing sizes and in Chrome will stay the same same size upon hitting "back."
Additionally, activity monitor consistently shows Safari takes up more virtual memory and percentage usage of the CPU than Safari does. Don't get me wrong, they are both great, speedy browsers and I'm not exactly anti-Apple, being that I'm on a Macintosh, but Chrome 5 really is fast.
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No, that's what happens when you suffer from feature creep.
Any sufficiently advanced program is indistinguishable from Emacs.
Reader mode detects multiple-page articles and displays them in their entirety at the click of a button
That's an awesome feature, but can it reduce entire slashdot comment threads into a single comment? That would save a lot of time.
... and then they built the supercollider.
Text files aren't 'complicated'. Writing the Javascript and CSS to make them work the way you want is.
I've written a few GreaseMoney scripts, but I know how to program. To the lay user, I doubt they even know what 'GreaseMonkey' or Javascript is.
I know people that would like to customize their 'browser experience' but would get lost at UserScripts.
Knowing Apple, its most likely a pretty GUI around some basic text files. I know it may come as a shock to the Slashdot crowd, but Linux, GUI, config files, etc are pretty intimidating to a newbie.
If it wasn't for OS X, I wouldn't have ever gotten into Linux, OpenSolaris, PHP, C, etc.
Terminal was always there, just never opened. I opened it a few times to move files around. Used some hints from Mac OS X Hints. Enabled SSH, learned PHP and C through copy and paste coding until I understood how to write it on my own. Years later I run a SheevaPlug (do you honestly think a complete newbie would figure out uBoot and such?), OpenSolaris server, XBMC. Installed Ubuntu on my Girlfriend's laptop all because of Terminal.app and some natural curiosity.
If this "Simple GUI" gets some middle/high schooler or college student going "I wonder what this Plugin builder does" opening the auto-generated text and tinkering. Good for them.
ctl+meta+shift+/+.
That's cheating!
Next thing you know you're going to start using things like object oriented programming and SDKs.
You know how you can have the fastest browsing experience ever?
Browse with pictures and javascript turned off. In Opera, it's really easy to do it, and I use that "barebones mode" when I'm searching for info or doing "work-related browsing".
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I still want a volume control to shut the web up. But still want to be able to listen to my music.
I'd all but given up on going to articles from here because I hate those annoying multipage articles that have maybe one screenful of text and five screenfuls of ads. If Safari Reader works as advertised, I can go back to reading again.
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This is a joke, right? HTML5 is a W3C standard, and WebKit is an open-source rendering engine with Apple contributing the most development. Get a clue.
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Agreed. There's nothing simpler than a text file.
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Really? They use it? That's news to me.
I was quite excited when I saw this and went to get it. Now I have it for half an hour and already regret it -- it already crashes over a dozen times on me -- albeit always on the same page, just at different points (and with different crash stack backtraces, too). Specifically, http://terrytao.wordpress.com/ is where I see those. Anybody else having similar problems?
What about empty files? Or setting up an iMac?
which is totally what she said
The driver cant send email or twitter yet.... It is lacking in features.
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Nope. It's juat another stillborn google project. Throw a lot of shit at a wall and some of it sticks. The rest just smells like shit. Because it is shit.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
A few things worth noting -
Thanks to HTML5 offline support, designers can build web applications that store themselves on your computer, where you have immediate access to them. Along with the application, web developers can also choose to store the application’s data on your system, so you always have the information you need. Applications and data can be stored in a traditional SQL-like database serving as an application cache or as a “super cookie,” which stores data in the familiar cookie format.
When is Microsoft going to come crashing down with their patient infringement on this ...
Safari gives you even more search options with built-in Bing search, in addition to Google and Yahoo! Search. Just choose Bing in the Smart Search Field, start typing, and get search suggestions that help you find what you’re looking for fast.
Its about time someone built a browser that complies with Bing's shoddy development standards but if I was Apple wouldn't be bragging about it though :)
Glimmerblocker is great, saves looking for extensions and covers any browser (it's an http proxy, and has auto filter lists for extra goodness).
Score:5, Interesting for this comment? What's next?
"If you use dial up you can listen to the bits coming through your line and you can render web pages on your head -- omitting the ads!"
Yeah because writing assembler code in vi will make it so much harder!!
Or maybe that to was a joke? Joke^2?
Thanks to HTML5 offline support, designers can build web applications that store themselves on your computer, where you have immediate access to them. Along with the application, web developers can also choose to store the application’s data on your system, so you always have the information you need. Applications and data can be stored in a traditional SQL-like database serving as an application cache or as a “super cookie,” which stores data in the familiar cookie format.
Sounds like a malware author's wetdream..!
which is totally what she said
Sure there is, a binary file.
The text file is open for interpretation thanks to all the damn different charsets around.
Downloading the content and not displaying it is only fair to the people hosting the websites you want to visit. If they don't serve up the adverts, they don't get revenue. If you don't like the adverts on a site, don't go to the site. Just spare the couple of KB, and get the site you admittedly appreciate some revenue to offset the bandwidth costs they incur to give you the information you want.
I just went and looked at the changelogs for Chrome and can't figure out what you're talking about. According to Wikipedia, Safari 5 combines the things added in Chrome 4 and 5 (extensions, enhanced developer tools, improved HTML5 support, performance improvements, improved Javascript performance, Geolocation, web sockets, drag and drop, etc.), and adds additional features like Reader that is built directly into the app.
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft and Apple struck a deal for that, considering Microsoft and Google are mortal enemies, no one gives a shit about Yahoo anymore, and let's be honest here, Microsoft doesn't lose a lot of market share to Apple so they aren't as likely to be mortal enemies as fans of either company tend to be.
Call me when you can point to an offending element in a webpage, and have the right-click menu say 'Put this domain in my hosts file'.
Although Safari benchmarks well, it degrades severely over time. Memory usage climbs, even after closing tabs, and the beach ball becomes a constant companion. Firefox is a little better, but I've had the best luck with Chrome. I'll try Safari 5, but I'm not optimistic that it will be any better than previous versions.
No, it's just been open sourced, and the actual codecs for the format are nowhere near as mature or ubiquitous as H.264. Stop bullshitting.
Any word on when it will come to the iPad? Sooner than iOS 4 I hope.
Current version on iPad is broken in a tiny but critical way (anyone know why it doesn't work with eCollege's discussion "post" button?)
Can we get a "-1 Wrong" moderation option?
I am not impressed! In fact, I'm a bit afraid. Sure, the normal way I might download it was using the software update, but usually web pages are a bit smarter about determining what sort of OS I'm running or gives me a choice. Being that it was under the MAC tab for software it should have been smarter or more clear that it was a windows only DL which it does not.
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Exactly how many grannies do you know that don't mind writing a config file?
I'm skeptical of a lot of promises Apple makes, but I download Safari 5 now and after playing with it, I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm on Snow Leopard and moved from Safari 4 to the Chrome betas and to the release version of Chrome when it came out. I prefer Safari's integration into the system, but Chrome's extensions and speed make it my primary browser (but when downloading PDFs, visiting Hulu, I'd have to go back to Safari). Safari 5 may make be switch back again, depending on the extension support.
Reader works pretty well; makes reading multiple part articles far more pleasant. Even on sites that don't break articles into multipage monsters (Ars Technica) the reader version was much better. Even better than that printing from the reader version prints the reader version (I'm doing a research project involving online newspaper articles and now I can simply print PDFs of the Reader version to Yojimbo!).
It seems a fair bit faster than Safari 4 or Chrome for OS X. There's been a few UI changes, especially in Top Sites/History, but overall it's the same beast.
The deciding factor is going to be extensions. I depend on Rikai-kun, Gmail Notifier, and Adblock for Chrome (plus I use flashblock, but there's already a good version for Safari, Click to Flash). If I can get those (and I wonder if/how Apple will deal with Adblock) I'll certainly move back to Safari; the fit and finish on it is much better than even the release version of Chrome; Chrome often doesn't shut down correctly, has crashed occasionally (and while page crashes aren't supposed to bring down the whole browser, they've make the browser unusable enough to warrant a restart), text input glitches, and webpages with semi-dynamic content (like a message window and then the subsequent message sent page) not visually updating for several seconds.
There's a second tier of extensions I'd like to see; Google Calendar, Amazon wishlist, etc.; hopefully Safari's extension community will be large enough that those also see the light of day.
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Call me when you can point to an offending element in a webpage, and have the right-click menu say 'Put this domain in my hosts file'.
That is an awesome goal. Flash ads don't include source info like pictures, so you can't right-click. You actually have to view the HTML hoping to find the offending hyperlink to swf content other than your one desired flash video on the page.
Unfortunately, hostfiles blocks cause people to ask me why their browser is "broken." Out of IE, Safari, Chrome and Firefox, only Safari gracefully hides the annoying "This page cannot be displayed [etc etc etc]" lines that replace every would-be advert blocked by my hostfile.
More or less yes. It was a joke. It was also a test to see how Slashdot group think works. People were saying things like this in the last Slashdot article about the Safari HTML 5 page and were getting modded +5 insightful saying things along the line of "Safari is proprietary"
The point of this post is, Slashdot group think has a different slant article by article. This changes what people can get away with saying.
Once you start despising the jerks, you become one.
If you don't like the adverts on a site, don't go to the site. Just spare the couple of KB, and get the site you admittedly appreciate some revenue to offset the bandwidth costs they incur to give you the information you want.
Sadly, this was OK 10 years ago. These days, websites have 1-3 flash ads with unoptimized animations. The result is that my laptop heats up and performance degrades considerably even when I'm not watching the ad.
All my local OS's block a few like ads.doubleclick.net, clk.atdmt.com, qksrv.net and ads.x10.com.
Are you building an Android UI by mistake?
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Try searching for 'HTML5 database' to see what Apple has implemented.
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Exactly how dumb does Apple think its users are that a text file is now considered 'complicated'?
Specifically this was for the Safari Developer program where Apple wants people to write extensions to Safari maybe like Firefox. I suppose you write all your code in notepad, vi or similar but I like having a basic UI wrapper for coding. It might not be as all encompassing as eclipse or VS but some help would be nice.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Safari 2 maybe. Safari has not had 'funky rendering problems' in a *long* time. Where do you think Chrome's rendering engine comes from?
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Well plugins like ClickToFlash still work.
Extension details can be seen here:
http://developer.apple.com/safari/library/documentation/Tools/Conceptual/SafariExtensionGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html
An awesome demonstration of what they're capable of:
http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/coda-notes-previe/
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You could build this yourself with Safari Extensions.
http://developer.apple.com/safari/library/documentation/Tools/Conceptual/SafariExtensionGuide/AddingContextualMenuItems/AddingContextualMenuItems.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40009977-CH4-SW1
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Auto-generated anything is *useless* to learn from. Might as well open the source code to the IDE driver in Linux and say "hmm, I wander how to program in C"
If you want to learn how to program your first language, get your For Dummies. And if you cannot be bothered to read and understand that book, it is hopeless.
I browse with Flash turned off. With Opera there's been Site Preferences for this for ages so I can get IPlayer and Youtube OK, and have the Enable Plugins Button on the status bar so I can toggle it on if required.
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No mention of Ruby scripting, Websocket support, Geolocation or hardware accelleration in the Windows version. Nobody's reaaly looked past the extensions feature have they?
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Exactly how dumb does Apple think its users are that a text file is now considered 'complicated'?
Specifically this was for the Safari Developer program where Apple wants people to write extensions to Safari maybe like Firefox. I suppose you write all your code in notepad, vi or similar but I like having a basic UI wrapper for coding. It might not be as all encompassing as eclipse or VS but some help would be nice.
NotePad2 or HTML-Kit, but I get the point now from the responses that people have written. I guess this shows my age.
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Then it was well played. I thought you were a troll, because of your very argument.
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The stuffit comments were meant to lighten the atmosphere a bit. You look at my other Apple related posts though, I usually am defending them when blatantly wrong remarks are made. Bah.
Once you start despising the jerks, you become one.
Are they blocking the installation of the flash plug in?
Then don't go to those websites! You do realise that because of people like you blocking their more traditional adverts, that they now have to resort to such adverts? If people just sucked it up and weren't so cheap, we'd still have adverts like back in the day - lo-fi graphics, no sound, and mainly text. Instead we have the cluster fuck we have now, because of greedy bastards.
I'll take this moment to remind GOOGLE, that Chrome still has no color management or true ad blocking capability.
Safari does have color management,
Firefox has color management
IE has color management
Chrome... nothing.
I actually like chrome in general... but I find Firefox to be much better still. Firefox performs better older hardware, and scrolls better. Firefox has better bookmark management. I do like google's synced bookmarks but I just simply use Xmarks on firefox. I wish both xmarks and google didnt spy on my bookmarks and synced them... but thats probably way too much to ask for in todays world.
Safari's development pushes the development of WebKit forward, and as a result Google Chrome improves.
I wouldnt say Safari is constantly improving. It has remained a useless browser up until version 4. Most if everyone simply ignored version 4 and still dont use Safari.
This is Apple's 5th attempt at getting you to use your their browser. Actually you could say its the 6th attempt if you count that lame html5 feature preview stunt they tried the other day.
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Not sure why Apple is doing this, but publishers aren't going to like it. They'll find ways to scuttle it or to embed ads.
Right now, ad-blocking is a fringe activity. Places like Ars Technica suffer quite badly, but most sites don't. But Apple are giving people a heads up that lots of Safari readers won't be looking at ads - they'll be just getting the content.
I know a lot of people don't like ads, but it's what keeps a lot of sites running and "free". Without the revenue from ads, a lot of them will disappear.
About the same I know that care about user-defined stylesheets and scripts.
No problem is insoluble in all conceivable circumstances.
I didn't knew what Greasemonkey was until I learned about it. Nobody is born knowing that stuff; some of us are interested enough to find out, others just want to press a couple of buttons and say they've built an extension.
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On Windows for sure, on Mac its's pretty decent. Pretty on par with Chrome (Mac) and way beyond Opera and Firefox. Of course that is on Mac. Opera and Firefox seem to work much better in Ballmer land than Steve-o-ville.
Funnily enough, the version of WebKit that Apple originally released couldn't be built or used without closed source libraries provided by Apple. You either needed to pay money to Apple for Mac OS X and hardware to run it on, or link against a bunch of static libraries for Windows that Apple forbade you from distributing and end up with a compiled version of WebKit that couldn't legally be distributed. Without these libraries it literally couldn't even render anything, and all the third-party developers have had to re-implement a whole bunch of the rendering code in order to get something that was at all useful on non-Mac systems.
So by your reasoning, any code examples should be discarded as useless? An explanation is fine and a good learning tool but it's not the be-all-end-all of learning techniques.
You can indeed learn by example (there's a reason that saying is so popular).
Under Leopard FF always degraded a lot under intensive use of Flash video. It was as if creating and closing dozens of Flash video objects kept leaving something behind that the browser couldn't quite get rid of. Over a period of a couple days intensive use, simple actions like tab creation and menu display (and everything else) would become CPU intensive and very slow. Restarting the browser would become necessary.
Maybe this is why Mozilla switched to handling Flash objects in a separate process.
Since the upgrade to 3.6.4 this 'buildup' problem doesn't seem to be occurring at all: FF is staying zippy. I am very pleased!
Consider this (for a workplace) - have the hosts file redirect the blacklisted pages to an internal web server that just sends back a blank page.
I'm starting to think GNU is the problem with "GNU/Linux" these days.
So I currently use Firefox over Safari on my OSX box for several reasons: 1) Awesomebar is very useful for developers - remembering similarly named but completely different sites (ie, site-dev01.domain.name vs. site-dev02.domain.name, I just type "02" and it chooses the 2nd one). 2) Firebug + Firebug extensions > Safari/Chrome Web Inspector... though Inspector still has some better features that have me opening up Safari to diagnose specific issues. 3) Adblock On the other hand, Safari does have a more stable implementation on OSX and clicktoflash/glims makes it quite easy to browse with.
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I learned VBA using the "Record Macro" function. Learned how it changed different properties, etc.
Used it to create a Matlab script to save plots directly to powerpoint and do some powerpoint manipulation.
It's how I learn. I could read every book in the world about a language and not pick it up. I either need to either be taught it directly (Like I was with Java/C/C++ in classes) or just copy and paste (as I did with PHP and the limited Perl I've done).
Hey, Apple, how about adding proper crash recovery and session management to Safari? I hate to inform you, but Safari DOES crash now and then, and we shouldn't have to install Saft to get something as elementary as the ability to return to the state we were in before your browser decided to take a core dump, despite the fact that I've disabled Flash. And how about session management? I'd like to be able to quit the browser and restore the state properly when I reopen. Yes, I am aware of "History > Reopen All Windows From Last Session". But it's unreliable, because if something doesn't reload properly, and I quit, the only thing saved in the session is the "couldn't connect" page. The history for that tab is GONE. What you really need to do is load from cache like Firefox does.
And how about your memory management? If I open the same set of documents in Firefox and Safari, Firefox uses a fraction the memory of Safari.
(It's too bad Firefox isn't usable on a Mac because it completely prevents a Mac from sleeping after idle. The bugzilla entry on that has been open for a really long time and gets no attention. Meanwhile, they're all over Private Browsing.)
I'm going to try out Chrome, but reportedly, its memory management is much worse than either. (http://dotnetperls.com/chrome-memory)
As of this posting, Firefox 3.6.3 no longer works going to www.apple.com (but the store still does). Safari 5 allows you to see the home page, but none of the links (iPhone, iPad, etc.) show properly. Nice QC Apple!
With Opera there's been Site Preferences for this for ages so I can get IPlayer and Youtube OK, and have the Enable Plugins Button on the status bar so I can toggle it on if required.
I understand, but turning flash off completely or whitelisting a complete page linking to tons of ad sites isn't very good.
BUT... I think you mean that site preferences blocks specific 3rd-party domains, so I'll install Opera on Ye Old Clunker and update my opinion of it. Thanks
Hey, that's brilliant!
Finally, a good use for my locally idling webserver.
Thanks, armanox!
Users should also be aware that Safari 5 fixes 48 security holes in Safari 4.0. Therefore, if you are using Safari 4.0, you should upgrade as soon as possible. For Mac OS 10.4, there is Safari 4.1 available instead of Safari 5.0.
Yes, this seems to be the first time ad-blocking and auto-paging have been built into the standard release of a browser.
Perhaps it's an Apple ploy to push publishers to iPad and iPhone apps, where their content cannot be altered.
I've been using Safari 5 since this morning, and I can tell you, this is a magical and revolutionary browser. Unlike anything ever made before. It's absolutely magical. This will change everything.
From the first moment you touch the browser you will know it's special.
That only refers to the search field next to the URL field. You can obviously go to any search page directly and use it. It's not like all pages use the same method of performing a search.
You could also use SafariBlock if that's what you wanted.
Glims also gives lots of extra functionality without bloating the browser.
Against the grain
Oh of course because I run Safari as root.
mod this up, insightful.
You just wait for Web sockets...
Google has already started encoding youtube videos in WebM. Join youtube's HTML5 beta, then append &webm=1 to the search url and you'll only get videos that are in webm format.
No.
A binary file is open for interpretation as well, only it's worse. At least with ASCII or Unicode text, there's a standard. (UTF-8 is a compromise between the two and is the standard text file format on Linux, Macs and most Internet protocols)
Binary files, OTOH, can be everything from a simple list of values (like a TARGA graphics file, which is just a list of pixels), to a file consisting of hundreds of independent data structures. The only way to know a particular binary format is to some source code or a spec describing the format.
ASCII or Unicode text files, on the other hand, are typically pretty transparent and readable by a human without the assistance of the source code that reads or writes it.
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How about no text file?
Which of course makes it pretty easy to check the user agent string and act accordingly. You don't have to code for dozens of ad blockers. You'll see Wordpress extensions for dealing with Reader quite soon.
Exactly how many grannies do you know that don't mind writing a config file?
I think I know of one, though I've never met her personally. If granddads count, it gets a lot easier.
Lots of second generation nerds are having kids nowadays.
Instead of manually entering your scripts, menu items, stylesheets, and commands in a complicated text file
Comedy gold :)
Exactly how dumb does Apple think its users are that a text file is now considered 'complicated'?
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The binary file _IS_ binary, nothing to interpret. The data is what it is.
If you start talking about what you _DO_ with the data then most likely every single text file will be different to any other text file since they will have different contents. Whatever it's an eggdrop config file, a list of your e-mail passwords or c source code file doesn't matter much. With the c source code file your messages within the program may still end up looking different depending on the charset used since the same value/binary number may mean something totally different.
Little-endian? Big-endian? If it's a set C structs, what do those look like? Without the source, there's no way to know.
Same with binary files; that's what I just said.
The difference is that without knowing any parsing details, I can read, say, /etc/passwd or an ldap.conf file. I can't do the same with, say, a Windows registry file; I need something like regedit or PowerShell or whatever.
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Same with binary files; that's what I just said.
Yeah, which was the point.
Whatever.
If the ads are pay per click, you're not doing anything wrong by disabling them.
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Get off the crack, buddy.
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Does anyone have good recommendations for introductory books for getting started with this arcane "text" technology?
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There may be a hint of a grain of truth in your statement, but realistically they are not 'resorting' to new flash ads because they are losing money on adblocking, they are going for the bigger buck plain and simple.
You are all a bunch of idots.
I'm not too sure what to make of this, if its just a blind defense at Apple but Microsoft and Oracle own most of the patents to cloud based database solutions.
Microsoft owns client-side SQL syncing .... so .... A bunch of Opensrc projects promoting HTML 5 isn't going really stop Microsoft if they really wanted to be bastards.
If MS actually owns client-side SQL, they might want to talk to the W3C.
http://dev.w3.org/html5/webdatabase/
All HTML5 compliant browsers will be implementing this.
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