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Man Claims 84% of Facebook, Gets Order Blocking Assets

Cyrus writes "According to a Bloomberg scoop, a New York man claiming to own a majority of Facebook has gotten a signed court order to block Facebook from transferring assets."

326 comments

  1. Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh No!

    1. Re:Not Facebook! by suso · · Score: 5, Funny

      Please win. Please win. Please win.

    2. Re:Not Facebook! by negRo_slim · · Score: 1

      Please win. Please win. Please win.

      While I can't be bothered to consult The Google on this, methinks he just felt it was an opportune time to make a move on all those UNITED STATES DOLLARS he's been smelling. Granted it may not be the most profitable company as of yet, that's not to say they don't have what he considers a good plan in place now. But w/e just a web site for Christ's sake.

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    3. Re:Not Facebook! by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      How are they going to win? This is a pretty clear cut case of the statute of limitations barring such a lawsuit.

    4. Re:Not Facebook! by suso · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I was kidding. But one can only hope something shuts down that huge pile of crap.

    5. Re:Not Facebook! by lxs · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't be bitter just because you don't have enough friends to play Farmville.

    6. Re:Not Facebook! by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      yes, there is no bigger pile of crap then a social media site that has made it easy for me to get in touch with family and friends, stay up to date in their lives.

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    7. Re:Not Facebook! by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I like that pile of crap. It allowed me to relocate and connect with old high school and college classmates. I also learned about the reunion through facebook

      --
      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    8. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How are they going to win? This is a pretty clear cut case of the statute of limitations barring such a lawsuit.

      Statue of limitations. English--learn it!

    9. Re:Not Facebook! by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Though you may not like it, I rather like having a readily assessable self-maintaining address book (phone and e-mail anyway) of my friends and family, including nieces, nephews, and cousins when they age and move out from home.

      Having a readily assessable place to store photo albums and send links to family is nice too. My Grandmother had to spend 6 months in Europe and I was able to send links to albums with captions of my trip to Alaska. Both she and I enjoyed this.

      I don't know how one can use e-mail and slashdot, but think facebook is a scourge to the internet.

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    10. Re:Not Facebook! by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Statue of limitations. English--learn it!

      If you insist on correcting someone's spelling, you had better make sure you're right.

      It was correctly spelt as statute.

    11. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you totally rock.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute

    12. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF are you smoking? "Statue of Limitations" Did you REALLY just write that?

      See: Statute of Limitations

      More relevantly, the Statute of Limitations in New York for Contractual Disputes is 6 years (see: New York Statute of Limitations for Civil and Personal Injury Actions - An Overview)

      -AC

    13. Re:Not Facebook! by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      I don't know how one can use e-mail and slashdot, but think facebook is a scourge to the internet.

      Cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy come to mind.

    14. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kramer?

    15. Re:Not Facebook! by dc29A · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I have family on different continents and never saw the need of using Facebook to connect with them or stay in touch. Email/phone/IM is way better. As for friends/family around me, I usually get together with them quite a few times each year, again, phone/email/IM is there too. I don't see the need for Facebook to connect with people I care about. For people I don't care about, even when they added me on Facebook I simply put them in a limited user profile group and they didn't see jack. I guess I am too anti-social to understand why people use Facebook, I did use it a bit though, but realized that the stuff I wanted to communicate with them, I already did with IMs, emails or simple phone calls, or better in person. The way I see it, if I really care about a person, I will make sure to stay in touch and no need to re-connect.

      A personal IM, email or phone call IMO is way better to communicate with friends/family than posting some crap on Facebook your friends can see, it's more personal, private and puts emphasis on that person to tell this person: you are important to me. Facebook removes this facet of personal communication.

    16. Re:Not Facebook! by ShadowDragoonFTW · · Score: 1

      No... Statute is right. Look it up. ... Oh, no, nevermind. Can't trust you to do that yourself. Let me do it FOR YOU. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/statute And, for the follow up. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/statute+of+limitations

    17. Re:Not Facebook! by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, I learned about my last reunion on Facebook too. Ever since then, they've made it a policy never to announce reunions on Facebook.

    18. Re:Not Facebook! by Tom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      stay up to date in their lives.

      Your brother has found a pig in Generic Farmville Clone. Do you want to help him feed it? Click here.

      --
      Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
    19. Re:Not Facebook! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      a social media site that has made it easy for me to get in touch with family and friends,

      You're just being lazy. Admit it.

    20. Re:Not Facebook! by Chapter80 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was kidding. But one can only hope something shuts down that huge pile of crap.

      A proposed settlement.

    21. Re:Not Facebook! by Canazza · · Score: 1

      I don't have many friends who play farmville. And those that do know not to send me that crap :)

      --
      It pays to be obvious, especially if you have a reputation for being subtle.
    22. Re:Not Facebook! by stanlyb · · Score: 0, Redundant

      YES YES YES. Pleeeeease, let him win.

    23. Re:Not Facebook! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know how one can use e-mail and slashdot, but think facebook is a scourge to the internet.

      I sometimes see email addresses, but I don't see a commercial 'email logo' stuck all over crap everywhere in life. There's a 'See us in Facebook' sticker on the glass door of 'Fashion Bug' which is essentially a strip-mall women's clothing store. The marketing of Facebook has gotten out of hand and is repulsing.

      If I started seeing the Slashdot Log stuck all over Radio Shack, I'd probably feel the same way about Slashdot. If all the casual iPod games I download and play for a little while pushed 'Post about your success on Slashdot' I'd feel the same.

      Fuck you, Zuck.

    24. Re:Not Facebook! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      please substitute "Slashdot logo" for 'Slashdot Log' in above.

    25. Re:Not Facebook! by jadm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No offense, but 10 years ago, everything you wrote was being said about instant messaging, and before that, about email. [Citation needed], but I wouldn't be surprised if the same applied to telephones. So while I actually agree that Facebook is pretty grating and annoying, the arguments above are just the new "Get off my lawn".

    26. Re:Not Facebook! by LizardKing · · Score: 2, Interesting

      t allowed me to relocate and connect with old high school and college classmates. I also learned about the reunion through facebook

      Come on, this is Slashdot - you only found out about the reunion because you were stalking your old high school and college "classmates" (tellingly, you didn't call them friends).

      (Only joking - although my wife was stalked by an ex-boyfriend via a social networking website. He even found her address through another site that sells access to things like the electoral register, and then turned up one night on her doorstep).

    27. Re:Not Facebook! by blind+biker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can only speak for myself, of course, but I guess a lot of people who want this to happen (I am one of them) does so because of Zuckerberg rather than Facebook. Humans are naturally drawn towards justice and fairness, and see Zuckerberg as a person who denigrates his customers, abuses their privacy and takes advantage of their personal data - and always, ALWAYS pushes the boundaries of what Facebook is allowe3d to do and only retreats after a big community backlash. And so, people feel Zuckerberg does not deserve the fortune he has.

      Facebook could, otherwise, be a useful and safe tool, in the hands of an ethical leadership.

      --
      "The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
    28. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe you shouldn't use Facebook then, and let the millions of other people who actually do enjoy using it, use it.

    29. Re:Not Facebook! by slater.jay · · Score: 1

      I do hope you're trying to be funny. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations Statute as in law, not statue as in carved three-dimensional art.

    30. Re:Not Facebook! by sheehaje · · Score: 1

      I keep trying to click the link but it doesn't appear to be working.

    31. Re:Not Facebook! by Domini · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I disagree. But then I have to add, I deleted my Facebook profile. My problem is my family and friends are ALL in other countries, and most are in timezones where I cannot call them easily. When we want to send personal messages, e-mail sure is what we use. But Facebook is perfect for posting updates and photos of our 1 year old daughter for family (and some friends) back home to see.

      Also I do appreciate (even the impersonal) updates... makes me feel like I'm still home.

      I've blanked-blocked almost all applications a long long time ago anyway, so I've never seen these "Farmville" updates people speak of.

      My wife will keep her profile and do these updates, but I personally don't like Facebook's policies.

    32. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is like saying, you keep putting food in your mouth, why do have problem taking it up you ass.

    33. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Click Ignore next to the announcement and instead of your friend, choose "Generic Farmville Clone" to ignore. Learned that one early on when I was ready to ignore the friend given the flood of "Generic Farmville Clone" crap I was seeing...

    34. Re:Not Facebook! by Grimbleton · · Score: 1

      Hey glad something works for you, guess you're not everyone!

    35. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please substitute "Slashdot logo" for 'Slashdot Log' in above.

      Oh no you don't, Slashdot Log works so much better. Just imagine the fun of smearing a green and white glowing "log" all over Radio Shack...

    36. Re:Not Facebook! by Krojack · · Score: 1

      I was kidding. But one can only hope something shuts down that huge pile of crap.

      So I take it anything you don't like is a huge pile of crap? If you don't like it then don't go to the site. As simple as that.

      There are many things about FB I don't like however I have got back in touch with many friends from high school and also enjoy keeping up with distant family seeing as I live several states away from them.

    37. Re:Not Facebook! by JxcelDolghmQ · · Score: 0

      Wtf is your problem with facebook? I guess you're one of those dickwads that thinks that they're "too cool for social networking" aren't you? Go get bent.

    38. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you could say that about literally any technological advance since the wheel. Is making our lives easier really a crime?

    39. Re:Not Facebook! by kiljoy001 · · Score: 1

      While you may feel that way, he did put in work to get the site popular, and convenient. Sure people are upset about the privacy, but the whole point of the site was in fact to gather data on other people. A lot of people just don't get that - of course he wants to invade your privacy, he wants more data to mine and sell! It's a business, just because people don't pay to make an account and login doesn't mean Facebook is not allow to make money, they have to just too, just keep the service running and the employees paid. And frankly, before the privacy debacle, anyone was on there was a google search away from finding out whatever dirt they themselves posted on that site. I think people are getting bent about it because they feel violated that someone has access to data that they themselves and their buddies dumped on the website. To be upset that someone put in some hard work to be successful with a social web project from the get go that was (and still is!) about data mining, is very much like crying over spilled milk. Get over it.

    40. Re:Not Facebook! by AndrewNeo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More annoying to me (and more relevant to Slashdot) are sites that support Facebook Connect, but not OpenID.

    41. Re:Not Facebook! by Chih · · Score: 1

      This made me giggle, you win :)

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    42. Re:Not Facebook! by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1

      If you could toss Zynga on to that fire, I'd really appreciate it.

    43. Re:Not Facebook! by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      You've got to use stalkers.

      "It would be really... neat if the lawn got mowed."

      "I think the paint is flaking off the side of the house. I think this colour would look really hot, don't you?"

      THEN you get a restraining order.

      --

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      ECHELON is a government program to find words like bomb, jihad, plutonium, assassinate, and anarchy.
    44. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      farm what?

    45. Re:Not Facebook! by Tuan121 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was kidding. But one can only hope something shuts down that huge pile of crap.

      Says the person with a twitter signature?

    46. Re:Not Facebook! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Don't worry. Zygna is baling-wired to Facebook.

      Thank goodness baling wire will hold up to fire, too.

    47. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      weird. Is this Fakebook? A guy named geek-oid that cares about family and friends? My family is my mom, and she is upstairs when I need, and my friends are all in WoW. Please, go to MySpace and become a hip-hop wannabee gangsta.

    48. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't need friends to play Farmville. I've been playing a 1-player version of it for a while now, and it's superior to Farmville. It's called Harvest Moon.

    49. Re:Not Facebook! by Mitchell314 · · Score: 1

      Yes.
      Now,
      You. My Lawn. Get off it.

      --
      I read TFA and all I got was this lousy cookie
    50. Re:Not Facebook! by chill · · Score: 5, Funny

      At least in Farmville you can actually have a virtual lawn where your avatar can stand and shake his fist at the kids.

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      Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
    51. Re:Not Facebook! by Cryolithic · · Score: 1

      Also I do appreciate (even the impersonal) updates... makes me feel like I'm still home.

      Agreed, it may not be quality conversation, but it's nice to know when they're doing well, or if they're unhappy. If all is well, fine, if something is wrong, I can phone/etc

    52. Re:Not Facebook! by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 3, Funny

      I deleted my facebook profile and all my friends and family declared me dead and tryed to sell off all my shit. I really didn't get annoying though until they tried to bury my ass.

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      Supporting World Peace Through Nuclear Pacification

    53. Re:Not Facebook! by idontgno · · Score: 1

      If only it had been marketed that way! "Hey, folks, c'mon down and gimme all your personal information!"

      No, I'm afraid FBook's market draw has been the tasty worm with a well-hidden hook. Yes, it's in the T's and C's, but the rage is about the fineness of the print that the hook is printed in. Sure, caveat emptor and all, but if you become wildly popular and obscenely rich borderline-lying about your product, don't expect to be widely admired and greatly beloved.

      As to getting over it... I have no stake in this at all, since I consider all online social networking as different varieties of snake oil, and recognized the Devil's bargain from the outset, but again, just because I have the sense to not fall afoul of hucksters and con-men, doesn't mean I have to stand silent while they work. There's an amazingly fine line between "getting over it" and "aiding and abetting".

      It's going to look like a bit of an overstatement, but "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Even if, as in the case of Facebook, it's a trivial evil in the cosmic scheme of things. Evil is still evil, for all its venality or narrowness.

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    54. Re:Not Facebook! by Cryolithic · · Score: 1

      I don't see a Nazi reference in his post...

    55. Re:Not Facebook! by bertoelcon · · Score: 1

      Humans are naturally drawn towards justice and fairness,

      When did that come about? Humans in general are more True Neutral than Lawful Good.

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    56. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Humans are naturally drawn towards justice and fairness

      I would content that humans are drawn towards justice as long as it's being applied to others. When it gets applied to themselves, they aren't always so crazy about it.

    57. Re:Not Facebook! by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 1

      Holy shit it's a website where people can talk to each other stop being so melodramatic about it

    58. Re:Not Facebook! by idontgno · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm glad empty cynicism and apathy are working out so well for you. Keep up the good work.

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    59. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, there is no bigger pile of crap then a social media site that has made it easy for me to get in touch with family and friends, stay up to date in their live

      Giant "L" on your forehead, dude.

    60. Re:Not Facebook! by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 1

      But don't you see? I have anecdotal evidence that in my experience, I didn't need Facebook to do this, so you don't either!

    61. Re:Not Facebook! by dave420 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why? Most people websites cater to will have a Facebook account, and if your users have Facebook accounts, sites can push their content to the FB users' friends. OpenID is great, but apart from being a mechanism to authenticate yourself, they are completely different.

    62. Re:Not Facebook! by socz · · Score: 1

      yeah seriously, how are people at work supposed to hook up? They can't email each other, because their "special someone" checks ze mail. They can't call or txt each other, because the same person checks that too! It's only via the top secrete profile that they are able to exchange secretes like russian spies!

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    63. Re:Not Facebook! by Clandestine_Blaze · · Score: 1

      Google will make sure that Zynga stays.

    64. Re:Not Facebook! by Tom · · Score: 1

      Yes, I know.

      The problem is that tommorow, one of your friends will be playing Other Generic Farmville Clone, and next week, five of them will start five other games, and the week after, twenty other friends will find something to play and...

      I don't know about you, but I have better things to spend my time on than updating ignore lists.

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    65. Re:Not Facebook! by socz · · Score: 1

      A lot of people at my job site play this game. They have given up trying to hide it. They take "calls" while they play it and switch between screens... a little off topic but how can they switch between a command prompt style system and farmville but have no clue how to print or other basic functions such as "do you see my computer? can you open it? You need to click on it. Yes, no, yes that's right. No, close that and open my computer. No close that again, now open the other one."

      In other news, my mom who is N0 years old was asking me about it because she saw her friend playing it and said man, must be a good game because she's addicted to it... she won't take my calls because she says she has to harvest something lol. This is not what I want my mom to be doing in her retirement!

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    66. Re:Not Facebook! by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      Can't you create a (password + optional SSL protected) website for posting those updates? Hosting is cheap these days and it does not look like you would use a lot of hard drive space and/or bandwidth. The hosting company is also less likely to sell your data to advertisers.

    67. Re:Not Facebook! by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Statue of limitations. English--learn it!

      Holy shit! That's the funniest thing I've read in a while.

      For the record, you might try Googling "Statue of limitations" next time and noticing that Google changes it to "statute" automatically for you.

      It's a clue, you should follow it.

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    68. Re:Not Facebook! by jythie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unless something really funny is going on, the judge would not have issued such a preliminary injunction if the case was that clearly beyond the statue of limitations. There might be disagreement concerning which limitations apply in this case.

    69. Re:Not Facebook! by nschubach · · Score: 5, Funny

      You obviously aren't looking close enough!

      Humans are naturally drawn towards justice and fairNess, And see Zuckerberg as a person who denIgrates his customers

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    70. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There can only be one positive outcome to this. The plantiff wins, facebook withers away never to return, and both the defendant and plantiff end up living under a bridge eating devil chicken in a can.

    71. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...my mom who is N0 years old...

      In seven years she'll be on the Normandy! Can your mom use Assault Rifles?

    72. Re:Not Facebook! by jythie · · Score: 1

      If they do not already have a decoration like that, someone needs to write it. I would be willing to play farmvillie for a while just to get that.

    73. Re:Not Facebook! by rsborg · · Score: 1

      No offense, but 10 years ago, everything you wrote was being said about instant messaging, and before that, about email. [Citation needed], but I wouldn't be surprised if the same applied to telephones.

      Excuse me, but all of those technologies were open, competitive and/or regulated (even if they were monopolized). Facebook is neither... just like Twitter, I would greatly hesitate to say that Facebook even compares to those. Yes, I have an FB account, but I don't post anything there anymore; Email, RSS feeds and IM keep me connected enough.

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    74. Re:Not Facebook! by Grygus · · Score: 1

      You could move him yourself. You're just being lazy. Admit it.

    75. Re:Not Facebook! by jythie · · Score: 1

      Oh, humans are in general lawful good, at least from their own perspective. People love justice and fairness from their own perspective... which rarely has anything to do with actual justice or fairness. Go in to any bloody conflict and you will usually hear both sides saying they are trying to equalize things or bring about justice for past wrongs.

    76. Re:Not Facebook! by nschubach · · Score: 1

      You see... Twitter lets you talk about yourself all day long and Facebook makes you read about your friends and family. Who wants to read bout your friends and family when you have so much of yourself to talk about?

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      Every time I start to have faith in humanity, I ruin it by driving to work between 7 and 8 am.
    77. Re:Not Facebook! by geekoid · · Score: 1

      The way I see it, if I really care about a person, I will make sure to stay in touch and no need to re-connect.

      by your logic, you only REALLY care about people you write long hand written letters to that are carried via pony express.

      Using facebook I am more up to date, know more about what is going on, and it also connects the whole family with on post.

      It seems like if you cared, you would wan't more information sooner.

      To quote me:
      "welcome to the future, mother fucker."

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    78. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'I also learned about the reunion through facebook".

      Won't happen again, we thought you couldn't read that good.

    79. Re:Not Facebook! by icebraining · · Score: 1

      You're the kind of guy that writes 3000 times the same thing, because writing a script is being lazy, right?

      You call it lazy, I call it better time usage. If I can spend less time doing useless stuff like spending a week to find an old friend I lost track of, that's more time I can use to actually talk to him or do any other interesting stuff.

    80. Re:Not Facebook! by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      So you don't like Facebook. Why should you care if others do?

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    81. Re:Not Facebook! by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So block the app. It's not that hard. My friends all play those inane games, and I never see a peep of them. Only when a new one comes along do I see it, and that's very, very rare. 10 minutes of work too much for you to keep in touch with your family?

    82. Re:Not Facebook! by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      secretes... hehehe. Funny. :-)

    83. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have family on different continents and never saw the need of using Facebook to connect with them or stay in touch. Email/phone/IM is way better. As for friends/family around me, I usually get together with them quite a few times each year, again, phone/email/IM is there too. I don't see the need for Facebook to connect with people I care about. For people I don't care about, even when they added me on Facebook I simply put them in a limited user profile group and they didn't see jack. I guess I am too anti-social to understand why people use Facebook, I did use it a bit though, but realized that the stuff I wanted to communicate with them, I already did with IMs, emails or simple phone calls, or better in person. The way I see it, if I really care about a person, I will make sure to stay in touch and no need to re-connect.

      A personal IM, email or phone call IMO is way better to communicate with friends/family than posting some crap on Facebook your friends can see, it's more personal, private and puts emphasis on that person to tell this person: you are important to me. Facebook removes this facet of personal communication.

      If you haven't noticed Facebook is not about staying in touch with people...it's about telling others how cool you are, and stalking your "friends"...outside of that...facebook sucks.

    84. Re:Not Facebook! by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

      Heh, I just don't care about Facebook for myself, I would like to see it crumble down solely because of all the privacy issues they have which will make innocent people victims.

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    85. Re:Not Facebook! by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So basically you are saying since you don't think Facebook is the most effective way to communicate, nobody else should either.

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    86. Re:Not Facebook! by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      This is not what I want my mom to be doing in her retirement!

      Why not? Farmville *CAN* be intellectually challenging - how best to pick my crops to maximize the time-value of my "land" so that I can buy virtual trinkets. It allows for logic and skill-based tasks to help reward ourselves with desirable things.

      There's a reason it's so addictive.

      There's also a reason I stopped playing it. 3 hours managing a farm everyday was just a timesink I couldn't afford.

    87. Re:Not Facebook! by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Apparently you must live somewhere that has no local music scene. Because Facebook is very good at letting bands inform their fans about upcoming shows, posting pictures, and displaying band merchandise, etc. - and all for the cost of zero dollars. Yeah, boy does it suck. I have never used Facebook to try and tell others how "cool" I am, but then again I am over the age of 12, physically and mentally.

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    88. Re:Not Facebook! by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1

      Sure. Facebook isn't going anywhere either. But one can dream.

    89. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm among the people who hate it. I would love nothing more than to delete my profile and pretend that it no longer exists.

      The problem is all of my friends who expect me to have it. Before I signed up, I had to endure countless conversations with friends about why I didn't have it. It got to the point where I'd avoid going to parties because I didn't want to answer the same question over and over again. Eventually, my resistance broke down and I signed up for an account. I've made it a point to put as little information as possible into it.

      But I've sadly found out that signing up for an account doesn't really help. The "Why don't you have Facebook?" question has been replaced by the "Why haven't you responded to my FaceMail?" question. As much as people didn't understand the decision to avoid Facebook, they don't understand how I can go months at a time without logging in.

      I hate Facebook not because I don't like using it, but because I can't not use it without being ostracized by friends. It's insidious and I'd love nothing more than to see it implode.

    90. Re:Not Facebook! by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Only humans can complain about being offered a free service that they can choose to use or not use. It is really simple - if you don't like Facebook, don't use it. The rest of us who choose to use it don't care why you don't want to use it just like you don't care why the rest of us do choose to use it.

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    91. Re:Not Facebook! by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 1

      Did I write this and lose the memory of it? That's pretty much my situation. I signed up for Facebook because I got sick of hearing about my friends third-hand -- and these are friends with whom I speak regularly via skype, googletalk, text message, and telephone.

      Though now that I have a Facebook account, I've reconnected with several friends from my younger years, so that's kind of cool.

    92. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can only speak for myself, of course, but I guess a lot of people who want this to happen (I am one of them) does so because of Zuckerberg rather than Facebook...Facebook could, otherwise, be a useful and safe tool, in the hands of an ethical leadership.

      The trouble is, this guys sounds like he's only after the money. You can bet that if he does gain ownership everything in Facebook will be sold off as fast as he can grab the cash.

    93. Re:Not Facebook! by dov_0 · · Score: 1

      As long as you are careful of what info you put online - and of course avoid the crappy apps - Facebook can be a very useful tool. I use it for keeping in touch with friends in several countries (Thailand, Nepal, England, USA etc.) I also use it for monitoring the general well-being of immigrants and international students that I'm involved with looking after in my own city. I can scan their comments and status reports once a day and see when they are being severely affected by culture shock or need counselling/help for any other reason. Saves me a stack of phone calls and emails and it is non-invasive.

      I really don't know why people hate facebook so much, when all it really is, is a very well developed descendant of usenet groups.

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    94. Re:Not Facebook! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The way I see it, if I really care about a person, I will make sure to stay in touch and no need to re-connect.

      That's an excellent point and I would have agreed with when I was a teenager and my long-lost friends were the ones I didn't have classes with that semester. Then I got older and realized that sometimes people move without remembering to notify everyone they've ever corresponded with. I parted ways with some old friends - Navy buddies, college pals, neighbors, etc. - before email was popular among non-geeks and had no way of getting in touch with them short of hiring a private investigator.

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    95. Re:Not Facebook! by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 1

      As to getting over it... I have no stake in this at all, since I consider all online social networking as different varieties of snake oil, and recognized the Devil's bargain from the outset, but again, just because I have the sense to not fall afoul of hucksters and con-men, doesn't mean I have to stand silent while they work. There's an amazingly fine line between "getting over it" and "aiding and abetting".

      This is a sentence about social networking. Social networking.

      Then you go on to declare social networks as an evil. Once again, someone who has to create an imaginary enemy so that their fight against it feels that much more valiant. Go on, continue to white knight the masses who have no idea about the insidious hands that slowly wrap around their throats in the form of Facebook. You are saving everyone; everyone owes you a life debt for what you have done to help them. Alas, no one will ever know of your heroism because like a true tragic hero, you work behind the scenes, unknown to all.

    96. Re:Not Facebook! by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

      Do you actually need friends to play that game? Its worse than running around some zone along in world of warcraft killing monsters all day long as far as I can tell.

    97. Re:Not Facebook! by TyFoN · · Score: 1

      Just install facebook purity and you block all spam (it works with firefox, chrome and safari)

    98. Re:Not Facebook! by corbettw · · Score: 1

      I used to feel the same way about Facebook. Until I realized that I was able to have short conversations with friends who live thousands of miles away, at least once a week. And while I really don't care when my ex-sister-in-law is buying donuts for her office, it is great seeing the pics she posts of her son as he grows; and to see the sonograms of my friends' baby in Ohio; and all the other little things that, before, I would rarely or never know is going on among my far-flung friends and family. Yes, it was possible to share all of these things, but it's so much simpler to have one place for all of it. Which makes people more likely to share it in the first place.

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    99. Re:Not Facebook! by bledri · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Can't you create a (password + optional SSL protected) website for posting those updates? Hosting is cheap these days and it does not look like you would use a lot of hard drive space and/or bandwidth.

      (I am not the author of the GPP.) I can, but I don't expect all my friends to do so, especially all my non-geek friends. For myself and virtually everyone that I stay in touch with: (free + convenient + slightly evil) trumps (cheap + hassle + ideologically sound). Probably doesn't bode well for the future of personal privacy, but there you go...

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    100. Re:Not Facebook! by nacturation · · Score: 1

      secretes... hehehe. Funny. :-)

      Secretes is Socrates reclusive brother.

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    101. Re:Not Facebook! by JxcelDolghmQ · · Score: 0

      Oh baw.

    102. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you ever phone someone? That means you don't care about them, otherwise you'd go and see them in person.

      Ever use a motor vehicle to go and meet someone? You lazy pig, you should walk:_that_ would show them you really care.

    103. Re:Not Facebook! by Aphoxema · · Score: 1

      I was kidding. But one can only hope something shuts down that huge pile of crap.

      Does Facebook hurt you? Are other people not allowed to choose what to do with their time? Is it wrong that hundreds of millions of people blindly give away their personal information while Facebook wildly profits from it? Are you somehow harmed by those hundreds of millions of people helping to effectively justify privacy invasion and a slow erosion of civil rights?

      WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA!?

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    104. Re:Not Facebook! by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      But only one geek is needed among the circle of friends. For example, I could create such a site and all of my friends could use it.

      The way I see it, facebook is useful if you want to find new (or long lost) friends, but if you just want to keep in touch with a fixed list of people, there are better ways.

    105. Re:Not Facebook! by GrumblyStuff · · Score: 1

      People can communicate effectively without it. I say that Facebook merely lowers the bar as did everything else before.

      I mean, culture has changed, too, but whenever some old letter (Civil War, etc.) makes the news, I'm always in awe at the prose. Telegraphs made things quicker. You still had to plan ahead but rather than taking weeks and months, it'd be, what, sent nigh instantly, recorded, and delivered within a week?

      But the phone brought us real time conversations. It's all shoot from the hip though it does help if you have some semblence of what you'd like to talk about.

      Email? Back to letters but pretty much instant and has no limit. Pack in as much audio, images, or movies as you feel like doing.

      Twitter? Sort of announcements-lite. No more dealing with windbag press conferences. Oh, looky. Shortened URL to the transcript of said conference.

      Facebook? In a word, automated. Grumblystuff is feeling grumpy. Would you like to send him a cute puppy picture? You just uploaded a vacation photo. All your friends know you went camping in the mountains. Profile updated. Single now? Aww, I'm sorry to hear that. Alert! Alert! It's your friend's birthday! Click hear to send a card and an e-gift.

      Anyway, what I'm getting at is that it is a way to communicate but I'd hardly call it the most effective. It's very good at keeping people abreast with whatever life is throwing at yah but that still requires you to do the updates (I'm sure that'll be changed in Facebook 2.0) making it the same as everything else.

    106. Re:Not Facebook! by Xenophon+Fenderson, · · Score: 1

      I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm really looking forward to retirement, when I can just sort of zone out and play video games all day. Who cares if they're mindless as long as they're fun?

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    107. Re:Not Facebook! by blackraven14250 · · Score: 1

      damnit, bad mod (being undone)

    108. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes let's all travel back in time to a glorious period where the earth was flat, dragons lived at the edges of the oceans, the churches were fully in charge, life expectancy was around 37, and half the planet was starving. Stupid technology enhancing our lives has got to go!

    109. Re:Not Facebook! by Skadet · · Score: 1

      OpenID is a festering turd of poorly executed nonsense. Federated identification is great in theory, but it never ends well. It just plain sucks.

      Although don't get me wrong, I've seen Facebook Connect implementations that suck goats, too.

    110. Re:Not Facebook! by coaxial · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are you a professor at Glenn Beck University? You could be! ;)

    111. Re:Not Facebook! by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Yeah, Secretes is the one who committed suicide by beating himself over the head with a ham hock, right?

      Leroy, we owe some bacon to Rufus. Do pay it. Don't forget.

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    112. Re:Not Facebook! by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Who cares about the openness of them? That wasn't the argument being made.

      (BTW, I lean more towards the "Why use Facebook?" very regularly side, but do think the argument was a valid one.)

    113. Re:Not Facebook! by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, he has to move the statue out of the way to see the case to figure out if the statute applies.

    114. Re:Not Facebook! by BabyDave · · Score: 1

      "Give me a few of your tired, some of your poor, and a reasonable proportion of your huddled masses ..."

    115. Re:Not Facebook! by Surt · · Score: 1

      I think you may need new friends. I don't use facebook, and I have lots of friends, and this has never come up.

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    116. Re:Not Facebook! by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      I figure it this way, I fought it as much as I could but everyone left myspace, so I use facebook the same as I used myspace. I had a picture, a brief summary, pictures from (clean) things that I've been to and done, along with every real physical friend attached to that profile.

      So basically it's myspace, but with a different interface, for me.
      Oh, and lots of "you buy you buy!!!!" kind of things on my screen.

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    117. Re:Not Facebook! by quanticle · · Score: 1

      The difference is that e-mail (and, to a lesser extent, instant messaging) were based around open networks, where any client that followed the necessary protocol could communicate. That's not the case with Facebook. Facebook, as a network, is totally owned by a single entity. As such, its much more restrictive about what you do with it, and what it does with your information.

      I have no objection to the concept of social media. My quarrel is with the current implementations. They're all very closed and centralized. As Facebook has demonstrated repeatedly, they have no qualms about using your data in ways that you didn't intend for them to use it. That's not true with e-mail. That's not true with IM.

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    118. Re:Not Facebook! by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      You still fail to see the point. Not everyone will go to your site constantly to see your status.
      With a list of contacts, and a status update news page, you can see everything in one foul swoop.

      This stuffs been around for at least 5-7 years...

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    119. Re:Not Facebook! by jythie · · Score: 1

      Apparently the statute of limitations applies from the time of the breech, not the time of the contract, so the allegation is that the breech of contract occurred sometime within the last 6 years.. so within the first year after the signing.

      If the contract stipulates some kind of ongoing profit sharing, it could be argued that Zuckerberg is continuing to act in violation of the agreement, and thus the statute of limitations would not apply.

    120. Re:Not Facebook! by Zalbik · · Score: 1

      A personal IM, email or phone call IMO is way better to communicate with friends/family than posting some crap on Facebook your friends can see, it's more personal, private and puts emphasis on that person to tell this person: you are important to me. Facebook removes this facet of personal communication.

      No offense, but 10 years ago, everything you wrote was being said about instant messaging, and before that, about email

      And you know what, 10 years ago they were right.

      A phone call is more personal, more private, and put's more emphasis on the person than an email or an IM. It also provides more immediate feedback, which allow conversations to more more quickly to topics of mutual interest.

      Perhaps that's the reason so much communication on Facebook/Twitter/etc. seems to devolve to "I'm taking a shower now. Oh look, I'm out of shampoo. Must remember to go to store and pick some up."

      Alternately, maybe I just have really boring friends...

    121. Re:Not Facebook! by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      I'd have to agree.. be it playing video games, programming, tearing engines apart and putting them back together, or polishing/collecting antique glass bottles in the garage... it's about YOU then.

      Of course, your relatives are usually pretty dear to you so you want to spend time with them as well, but you still have time to veg with an antique PS2 game as you open your 50 year old scotch that you bought at 30 ;)

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    122. Re:Not Facebook! by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Thanks.. that was already clarified in another response. I was just making (yet another) statue/statute joke.

    123. Re:Not Facebook! by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      If you want to go down the philosophical trail, there is no true justice and fairness as it's mostly relative and subjective.

      One civilization may believe that all life should be cherished, another may believe that a woman has the right to govern her own body. (e.g. abortion, birth control, etc)

      One civilization may believe that when a person does a certain crime, they should have no mercy shown to them and be extinguished, another civilization may believe that every person's life is immutable and should never be humanly hindered. (European vs. Middle-eastern corporal punishment)

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    124. Re:Not Facebook! by GeorgeS · · Score: 1

      I really didn't get annoying though until they tried to bury my ass.

      Nonsense! you were annoying long before this whole facebook thing started :P~

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    125. Re:Not Facebook! by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      Wtf... no one ever says their too cool for social networking (one gay ass name lol)
      People say they don't like the evil tactics of Facebook's administration.
      Get it right!

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    126. Re:Not Facebook! by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      Is it wrong that hundreds of millions of people blindly give away their personal information while Facebook wildly profits from it?

      Yes.
      And it's not blindly. Recall that when a profile was set to private that the information was suddenly available.
      This was a couple years ago, and since then things have creeped up.

      So, yes.

      Are you somehow harmed by those hundreds of millions of people helping to effectively justify privacy invasion and a slow erosion of civil rights?

      Remember what America fought for in 1776, by ideology? We like to continue the ideology, just a touch.
      I sincerely hope you're being a devils advocate and not really a douche.

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    127. Re:Not Facebook! by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      add RSS and you get the notifications. But to each his own I suppose.

    128. Re:Not Facebook! by thejynxed · · Score: 1

      Correction:

      It's a really well-developed information gathering service hidden behind a thinly veiled marketing platform.

      Facebook's real customers aren't you, the "user". It's the marketing companies, law-enforcement agencies, scammers, spammers, etc that pay big $$$ to have access to this giant database of personal information.

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    129. Re:Not Facebook! by Aphoxema · · Score: 1

      I sincerely hope you're being a devils advocate and not really a douche.

      Neither. Well, douche maybe, but it's better than advocating all those things I obviously didn't mean seriously.

      *sighs* I hate Slashdot. There used to be people that could detect sarcasm.

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    130. Re:Not Facebook! by Chapter80 · · Score: 1

      I don't see statute of limitations as an issue whatsoever.

      You sign a contract, exchange some money, and gain ownership to something. You have absolutely no obligation to prove your ownership within five years.

      I'm sure he contacted an attorney years ago, and has been waiting to play this card. Why not let Zuckerberg and all the FB employees work really hard to build something for you, and then come and take it if it's yours?

    131. Re:Not Facebook! by shermo · · Score: 1

      But if google/word autocorrects it, why does he need to learn it?

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    132. Re:Not Facebook! by jesset77 · · Score: 1

      Who cares about the openness of them? That wasn't the argument being made.

      Then what argument was being made? That Facebook doesn't provide any features more sophisticated that Phone/Email/IM? That there is no benefit to the platform?

      My reading is that G+P doesn't have any problem with the platform or the features, it's not too complex for G'pa. It's actually less complex than email. I think he instead doesn't appreciate being locked into relying on this one organization for reliability or privacy.

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    133. Re:Not Facebook! by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      I've pretty much avoided creating a facebook profile for the sake of my job. Every few years they re-investigate my security clearance. And I'd just as soon there be pretty much nothing related to any social networking site in the google search results for my name. It's not that I think I'd ever do something stupid enough to risk my clearance but it's better safe than sorry in my case, at least so far as it concerns sites like Facebook.

    134. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *sighs* I hate Slashdot. There used to be people that could detect sarcasm.

      Maybe we are all going senile...

    135. Re:Not Facebook! by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      Facebook is a much better way for most people to communicate than a personal E-mail because they don't have to wade through 500 spam to get the message, negotiate with six different programs to upload and rotate and label their photos then worry about who can see them or not.

      Its all integrated, and it works very well for a lot of people. If you don't like using it, or you know how to use something else better, that's great, so long as every other contact you have feels the same way.

      Personally, your comment about making sure to stay in touch is redundant. You're implying that Facebook is less staying in touch than say writing a letter. If it is, its only because you chose not to write the same amount to them. The platform isn't hampering you.

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    136. Re:Not Facebook! by Cwix · · Score: 1

      "welcome to the future, mother fucker."

      Any future that involves someone selling my personal data is a future I don't particularly want to be part of. While I don't really care about you trumpeting your inane views that this is the future, please stop caring about anyone trumpeting the view that your being screwed, and asking for more.

      And for the record:
      I dont live in my parents basement.
      I dont even live in the same state as my parents.
      I dont wear a tin foil hat
      Im in my mid twenties and grew up with computers. I just dont like seeing my personal information being stripped away from me, for someone elses profit. If you dont mind it.. If you feel the trade off is worth it.. Have at it. Judging from facebooks past actions I dont think your private information is still yours.

      Ohh and your whole

      by your logic

      position is fucking nuts. I keep in contact with the people I want to with what works for me.. phone calls. Frankly I think I would want to keep in contact with a lot fewer people if I had to hear about them daily.

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    137. Re:Not Facebook! by Aphoxema · · Score: 1

      Saw that article, problem is I fear I'm one of the worst about "picking up on social cues".

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    138. Re:Not Facebook! by Tom · · Score: 1

      Because it insists of spamming me with their invites?

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    139. Re:Not Facebook! by AndreR · · Score: 1

      Because every time Google auto-corrects a word, God kills one kitten. And then the Grammar Nazi kills another. It's so sad.

    140. Re:Not Facebook! by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      Since when did a poem become the doctrine of America?
      I realize it's been around for a long while, but it's symbolic, much like "in god we trust" on the currency.

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    141. Re:Not Facebook! by flowwolf · · Score: 1

      The difference between ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, AIM, etc.. and Facebook is the success I had finding old friends. I would've had to do this myself with any other network. Facebook succeeded in facilitating it though.
      I used all of the above and Facebook crushed all of their capabilities, even before it had the chat window function.

    142. Re:Not Facebook! by flowwolf · · Score: 1

      Then all your family will ask how they can like stuff on the page and have it show up on facebook. This is like suggesting your family should use linux. It sounds good in writing, but then you get to the delivery and no one is as enthusiastic as you about it.

    143. Re:Not Facebook! by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      From what my family members who use Facebook tell me, the only reason you need friends is to annoy them with (thankfully blockable) "updates" on what you're doing in game.

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    144. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PARENT IS GOATSE****

      Gross out pic - stupid fucking mods +5

    145. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't really get the people complaining about trouble not checking Facebook often enough. It has settings (which I thought were default but might not be anymore) to e-mail you on wall posts / messages / follow-up comments. Going to the website lets you see what other people are posting, but anything directed at you can be e-mailed, so you never have to actually go to the site to check for updates.

    146. Re:Not Facebook! by QuietObserver · · Score: 1

      Your comments remind me of the Microsoft Kin commercial I watched to understand the following statement: "You have to admire a marketing strategy that takes a product made for idiots, and then essentially tells those idiots that they are idiots." This was posted on this site in a thread connected to the article about Microsoft cutting Kin support after only 45 days, but I can't remember by whom, just that I felt it was worth saving.

    147. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

          " But Facebook is perfect for posting updates and photos of our 1 year old daughter for family (and some friends) back home to see.

      - Yes, and your daughter's photos are nice

    148. Re:Not Facebook! by dunng808 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In this case the Slashdot conventional wisdom appears to be "Nobody needs Facebook." But, as is so often pointed out here, Slashdotters are not a representative cross-section of personallity types. Reference the frequent comments about women/dating/sex. Facebook addresses social interaction that is mostly incomprehensible to this group. On the other hand, if it weren't for the kinds of people who hang out here there would be no Facebook. Let's not fall into the "what is right for us is right for everyone" hole.

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    149. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol my parents are retired and play farmville all the time. I mean it's so authentic they even get tans and stuff! And then when harvest season comes we get FREE FOOD.

      Oh right, but that involves: A. Living in a suburb. B. Living close to a community Garden. and C. Getting off your fat American Ass and spending some time in the sun and smog.

    150. Re:Not Facebook! by Handover+Phist · · Score: 1

      Having a LAMP server in the basement comes to mind too. One can serve ones family without having to addict ones mother to Farmville.

    151. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well at least you HAD a reunion. The last time I saw anyone from High School was when I was working at a 7-11. The irony is: I was the one who had made something of myself :D

    152. Re:Not Facebook! by smellotron · · Score: 1

      GP/GGP aren't talking about philosophy, they're talking about Dungeons & Dragons. And they're both wrong - humans are drawn to Lawful Neutral. The notion of "relative good" tends to be an absolute Neutral or Evil; but as social creatures, we are are easily classified as Lawful.

    153. Re:Not Facebook! by smellotron · · Score: 1

      It pays to not look like an idiot.

    154. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beats the heck out of an avatar that turns and moons you while laughing ma.......what, don't you have that one too?

    155. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's just say having met a few FB employees recently, they're not hurting for cash, this won't put a dent in their salaries, and if people had any idea how they actually lived, they might be less tolerant of facebook altogether.

    156. Re:Not Facebook! by dave87656 · · Score: 1

      According to the contract signed he would actually be correct in his demand. There is an actual contract and from my reading of it he would be correct. The problem is that the statute of limitations has expired. IANAL of course, so I may be completely off base on this but the article I read didn't question the claim.

    157. Re:Not Facebook! by dave87656 · · Score: 1

      I have family on different continents and never saw the need of using Facebook to connect with them or stay in touch. Email/phone/IM is way better.

      If you know their email address, telephone number or IM id. If you don't, FB is a great way to find them (or be found).

    158. Re:Not Facebook! by delinear · · Score: 1

      That works so long as your friends all intersect, but if you're friends with someone who also has two other circles of friends you're not part of, and all of them are on Facebook, you're asking them to learn and deal with a totally different system specifically for you as well as removing the possibility of introducing people from your shared circle to those people in the other circles. I don't use FB (I created an account to do some testing for work but I've never used it or added anyone to it) but even I can see the benefit of a universal system for this. It just needs to be one that has more respect for the privacy of their users.

    159. Re:Not Facebook! by delinear · · Score: 1

      With a list of contacts, and a status update news page, you can see everything in one foul swoop.

      It's one fell swoop, although since the subject is Facebook, maybe foul is equally applicable.

    160. Re:Not Facebook! by delinear · · Score: 1

      Or, equally, let's all miss the point and throw up some strawman suggesting that GP hates technology when he's said nothing of the kind. All he's suggesting is that Facebook, while it might be good at what it does, isn't the be-all-end-all of communication. Honestly, the best way ultimately to communicate with another person is face to face. You miss so many nuances of communication just by removing the ability to read body language, take away voice inflection and you miss even more. Of course, face to face communication has been around since the dawn of time but that doesn't mean that my suggestion that it's the best way to communicate also means I hate technology and wish we could go back to stone-age times. What Facebook is good at is letting people dip in and out of your life when they have time, essentially a bulletin board, but if you want a meaningful conversation with someone it's still almost always better to do it in person of, failing that, by telephone.

    161. Re:Not Facebook! by delinear · · Score: 1

      I think he was suggesting the "evil" was not being totally transparent about the motives of the service and how you plan to treat people's "privacy", rather than the service itself. Of course, that's just marketing - arguably evil but something we all live with every day. Is Facebook selling user data really any different to Lynx suggesting their deodorant will have armies of women chasing you down the street?

    162. Re:Not Facebook! by tarogue · · Score: 1

      Statute of Limitations is (if I remember right) seven years. The contract was from 2003, it's now 2010. It's hitting it right on the edge, but it should still be able to get in.

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    163. Re:Not Facebook! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately it isn't as simply as just not using Facebook.

      If your friends use it to organise and exchange news/gossip then you are being cut out of that social interaction which might previously been face to face or via IM or email. I've seen mailing lists die as everyone moves on to Facebook, leaving us old timers to enjoy the silence.

      Actually I'm only 30 but all my of peers are on Facebook so I maintain an account. It has almost no info on it and I never update it, but it lets me keep track of what is going on. People just seem to assume everyone is on FB now and have stopped bothering to tell people who are not about social events.

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    164. Re:Not Facebook! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Having your own site doesn't help you control what people post on Facebook either. Unless you have an account it is impossible to see what other people are posting about you (photos, tagging etc.) or remove it.

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    165. Re:Not Facebook! by Bakkster · · Score: 1

      It used to be that having more friends in the game unlocked larger farms (and other stuff) without having to spend real money. That may have changed, but the tactic has always been 'friends or dollars'. Either you fund them directly, or you coerce your friends to join, and maybe one of them gives you money.

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    166. Re:Not Facebook! by Restil · · Score: 1

      I think the rub is that, while it would seem weird for me to track down girls I barely knew in Jr. High and probe them for information on if, when and who they married, about their kids, their jobs, and who their friends are, there apparently seems to be nothing strange at all about "friending" them on facebook and exploring those same topics. It's like voluntarily allowing yourself to be stalked... within limits (maybe, depending on today's version of Facebook's rapidly changing privacy policy).

      This gives you the opportunity to keep in touch with people you otherwise wouldn't have kept in touch with anyway, and your life is probably no better for it, but now, at least, it's easy.

      I personally have rejected almost all of the friend requests that have come from people I used to know but was never friends with. My opinion is, if I wasn't friends with you then, why would I want to be friends with you now, when the only thing we USED to have in common was that we currently attended the same school. We don't even have THAT anymore, so why do you suddenly want to be my friend NOW? Why do you even CARE? There's a reason that high school reunions aren't held on a daily/monthly or even yearly basis. Agreed, there IS a certain novelty to discovering the fate of people you haven't spoken to or heard about in years, but it's a very short-lived experience and doesn't accomplish a great deal. Afterwards, you just go right back to ignoring each other like you always did.

      -Restil

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    167. Re:Not Facebook! by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      But people can't be bothered going to a different website for every different friend, especially if separate logins are needed. That's the bad old days of Geocities in the '90s!

      At least support things like RSS feeds so it can be read more easily. Dumping everything onto a single site like Facebook or Livejournal has its problems, but they have a huge advantage over people using a standalone website. Until someone figures out a solution to this, sites like Facebook are going to be popular.

      What are the better ways?

    168. Re:Not Facebook! by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      one of your friends

      One of your friends maybe. I guess I'm lucky that, after I've filtered out Farmville, my friends post about generally interesting things, or things about what they're up to.

      I don't know about you, but I have better things to spend my time on than updating ignore lists.

      Better things, like talking about Facebook on Slashdot?

    169. Re:Not Facebook! by steelfood · · Score: 1

      I think is talking about Roy Moore's monument of the 10 commandments.

      Statue of limitations indeed!

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    170. Re:Not Facebook! by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      I guess if you define the entire world in terms of your social disorders, then you're right.

      Unfortunately for you, you're wrong.

    171. Re:Not Facebook! by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      Your brother has found a pig in Generic Farmville Clone. Do you want to help him feed it? Click here.

      Then just un-brother him. (You can do that on Facebook, right? I've never actually used the thing)

      - RG>

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    172. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Epic self-pwnage.

    173. Re:Not Facebook! by WiiVault · · Score: 1

      You sir make Slashdot proud. Rock on yo.

    174. Re:Not Facebook! by janerules · · Score: 1

      I wish I could mod u up, but you at 5

    175. Re:Not Facebook! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Gross out pic - stupid fucking mods +5

      Ah, yes. A stick in the mud.
      get it?

    176. Re:Not Facebook! by Sepodati · · Score: 1

      >> as you open your 50 year old scotch that you bought at 30

      Scotch doesn't age in the bottle. ;)

    177. Re:Not Facebook! by Tom · · Score: 1

      Better things, like talking about Facebook on Slashdot?

      At least the comments here are by actual human beings, not 90% automated postings.

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    178. Re:Not Facebook! by Xenophon+Fenderson, · · Score: 1

      I can tell you right now that all of the Scotch I bought when I was thirty didn't even last until I turned 31.

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  2. That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative
    Found the complaint on Scribd and man, judging by the complaints, that sounds like one entertaining contract:

    Under Paragraph 3 of the contract, the Seller and Purchaser agreed that for each day after January 1, 2004, the Purchaser would acquire an additional 1% interest in the business, per day, until the website was completed ... Upon information and belief, the website, thefacebook.com, was completed and operational on February 4th, 2004.

    Zuckerberg appears to be the Seller and Ceglia appears to be the Purchaser. I know this all happened before "thefacebook.com" had a massive user base but from what I can tell Ceglia dropped a grand to Zuckerberg under some agreement that if the website wasn't finished on a certain date then Ceglia would accrue a point of that business per late day? Is that a standard clause or was this some sort of loan shark that the Z-man found on campus after he stole the ConnectU code?

    And then, Ceglia waited past the six year mark for the statute of limitations to run out on a breach of contract in New York? He watched Facebook's rise to popularity past MySpace?

    Seriously, what kind of contracts do fledgling websites write? And where do they find people to borrow money from that apparently live under a rock in the Appalachians of New York state? Sure is entertaining one way or the other.

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    1. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by yincrash · · Score: 1

      It was probably something signed between two students.

    2. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      So? If they're both 18 then they are both able to enter into contracts.

      Sad to hear about the statute of limitations, but it would be quite entertaining if this guy could reproduce the original documents... and he in fact did own 84% of FaceBook.

    3. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by osgeek · · Score: 1

      I love how in TFA Zuckerberg is looking down, like he's guilty of something.

      Very entertaining indeed.

    4. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The statute of limitations is a red herring -- it only begins to run when a contract breach is discovered (or reasonable should have been), not when the contract is signed. You can have a contract signed 50 years ago, but if you breach it today, the statute of limitations start to run today.

      The purported breach was arguably only discovered by the plaintiff due to recent press accounts of potential selling of Facebook or portions thereof. Until some act is taken that indicates an intent to breach, a party to a contract has the right to rely on the expectation that the other party will fulfill his obligations under the contract.

    5. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Skilf · · Score: 5, Informative
      here is Facebooks reply (from the same user on scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/34240120/Ceglia-v-Facebook-Motion-for-Dissolution snippets:

      Defendants Mark Elliot Zuckerberg and Facebook, Inc. (“Facebook”) respectfully submit this memorandum in support of their motion to dissolve the ex parte temporary restraining order (the “TRO”) issued by the Supreme Court of the State of New York, County of Allegany, in this matter. Plaintiff has utterly failed to meet the procedural and substantive requirements for such drastic relief, and the order issued by the state court is similarly flawed and woefully inadequate.

      In his Complaint, Plaintiff alleges that, as a result of a two-page contract purportedly entered into more than seven years ago (and approximately nine months before the founding of Facebook), he is entitled to an 84% ownership stake in the Company. (Id. at Ex. A 4, 8).

    6. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by goombah99 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The statute of limitations is a red herring -- it only begins to run when a contract breach is discovered (or reasonable should have been), not when the contract is signed. You can have a contract signed 50 years ago, but if you breach it today, the statute of limitations start to run today.

      The purported breach was arguably only discovered by the plaintiff due to recent press accounts of potential selling of Facebook or portions thereof. Until some act is taken that indicates an intent to breach, a party to a contract has the right to rely on the expectation that the other party will fulfill his obligations under the contract.

      Yeah I guess he just didn't notice that he owned 50% of facebook when that's the second paragraph in the contract.

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    7. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Informative

      NO, he could very well have known that he owned a big chunk of Facebook. His claim would be that he became aware of Zuckerberg's intention to not honor that ownership claim when he saw "recent press accounts of potential selling of Facebook or portions thereof". Whether or not any of this will hold up in court is another story. However, on the face of it, he has a claim.

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    8. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can someone translate the legalise for us? Thanks

    9. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guilty? It's posed with a halo behind him like he's Jesus fucking Christ. Zuckerberg really is king asshole.

    10. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by osgeek · · Score: 1

      Hah, I guess that could be a halo. Looks to be too low.

    11. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Their response really doesn't seem to actually address the issue. If he wrote the original code for a different entity, and Zucker took that code and used it to create an exceptionally similiarly named company without compensating his 84% partner, he needs to address that.

      Among other things, the countersuit claims there's no need for urgent action (really? Pending sale of the IP doesn't make it urgent?)

      This sounds like a quick and poorly research counter while they circle the wagons and find out just what happened, sounds like Zucker may have "burned" the original company to elimate this little ownership problem, while taking all the assets. This little stunt may have actually sstarted the statue of limitations countdown, if he as CEO of "thefacebook" company wrote himself a severance package where he got the IP and the 84% owner said nothing because he was unaware, thinking he owned a silent but significant owner of "Facebook".

      Of course, odd that you would believe yourself even a 50% owner of a huge internet phenom and not ask for at least a board seat where you can find out what they are doing with your company...

    12. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Kevin+Stevens · · Score: 1

      Well,
      There are two parts to this- it was a fledgling website, and Zuckerberg was all of what? 23? I too started a website when I was in my early 20's as a side project with a friend- I was a bored programmer in a big bank, my partner a listless real estate agent looking for something more.

      We knew from the beginning that this was a for-profit e-commerce site, and so we incorporated and assigned shares and all that, and I initially funded our corporate bank account with some seed money to get us started to buy things like webhosting, etc. We did things pretty fast and loose then, we had almost no record keeping of any sort, doing our taxes the first year was a tremendous scramble. I can only imagine how things were done if this was a website done for fun with no business purpose intended. If we felt we had a much greater chance of success by getting the help we needed by giving up a % of the business we would have, and in several cases we did indeed try that- we tried to get initial inventory to sell by offering to partner up with people as we had almost zero capital.

      Shortly after we launched my career started taking off, while the RE market fell off a cliff, and I became less interested in the site, and he more so. He kind of took it and ran with it, and we fell out of touch. He moved to Tampa at least in part to do it full time, and from what I see from the site, he still does so today, though I have no idea if he is making money. I still have ownership in the corporation we used to start the site, but I have no intention of pushing the issue unless I have some indication that there is "real" money involved. My point is that I can understand why this guy sat on this. If he really did live kind of disconnected, he may not have realized how valuable FB had gotten (though that seems strange, especially if this guy was a web designer). He may have thought his contract wasn't enforceable until he mentioned it to a friend who made him go to a lawyer.

      Interestingly, facebook just said the lawsuit was frivolous and that it will fight it, and nothing else, at least from what I saw. So this guy may not just be a fraudster crackpot, and the contract, and thus the case, might be legitimate. Unfortunately it is not clear if the complaint includes a copy of the contract, and the document that scribd says it has is garbled after a few pages.

      Of course the fact that Ceglia is in a lawsuit over fraud puts a serious dent in his credibility. I am of course just an armchair commentator, but with Zuckerberg's past F ups and his inexperience at the time, I have a feeling that this might be legit. Another interesting question- when a VC funds you, do they do any due dilligence to see if the company is owned by someone else? Could they even find something like this if this is just a contract between two private parties? Also, IANAL, but as I understand it the Statute of Limitations is a piece of cake to get around, especially if there is hard evidence. I also find the timing interesting- in that there is nothing interesting about it at all. As far as I am aware, there is no big news brewing for FB, so its not like he is trying to cash in on an imminent IPO or buyout.

      It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

    13. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      For a contract to be valid it needs only two things: compensation, and to not violate any state or federal laws. On compensation, contract law follows what is known as the "Peppercorn Doctrine".

      That is, a peppercorn is good enough to count as compensation, so long as both parties agree to it. I.e. I could set up contract for you to paint my house for a peppercorn, and if you agree to it that contract is enforceable by law. You have to finish my house, and I have to pay you a peppercorn for it.

      For the second, I've never heard of any laws restricting exactly how one sells stake in their business. On the surface the contract seems perfectly legitimate, and just because it was two students who drew it up and signed it doesn't make it any less enforceable.

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    14. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Didn't they sell Microsoft a 20% stake? That would include 4% of his stake, as I read the contract.

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    15. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe because the linked document is a response to the TRO not to the complaint itself.

    16. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I love how they mention how it's 2 pages, as if that made it worthless or something. As if you needed more proof of how detached from reality legal-ese has become.

    17. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Can someone translate the legalise for us? Thanks

      Sure.

      Defendants Mark Elliot Zuckerberg and Facebook, Inc. (“Facebook”) respectfully submit this memorandum in support of their motion to dissolve the ex parte temporary restraining order (the “TRO”) issued by the Supreme Court of the State of New York, County of Allegany, in this matter.

      "Let me tell you something about that court order..."

      Plaintiff has utterly failed to meet the procedural and substantive requirements for such drastic relief, and the order issued by the state court is similarly flawed and woefully inadequate.

      "They, like, totally screwed up legal procedures! And that court order? Come ON man, that's fucked up!"

      In his Complaint, Plaintiff alleges that, as a result of a two-page contract purportedly entered into more than seven years ago (and approximately nine months before the founding of Facebook), he is entitled to an 84% ownership stake in the Company. (Id. at Ex. A 4, 8).

      "And this crazy 84% number based on a couple of pages seven years ago? Riiiight..."

      I'm trying to have fun with it, but that's pretty much what it says.

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    18. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Surt · · Score: 1

      But that sale was recent enough not to have run out the statute.

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    19. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      excellent point.

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    20. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      You have to finish my house, and I have to pay you a peppercorn for it.

      wrong, specific performance would never be ordered in such a dispute, and the failure to paint the house would only be a loss of the value of the peppercorn, so you would be able to recover your peppercorn and the value of the time wasted finding someone else to paint your house.

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    21. Re:That Must Be One Entertaining Contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah I guess he just didn't notice that he owned 50% of facebook when that's the second paragraph in the contract.

      If you're going to be a smart ass, try not to be a fucking moron at the same time. Go read the comment again.

  3. His facebook account is so canceled! by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Funny

    His facebook account is so canceled! But I bet he could do commercials for MySpace. "I designed the look and feel of facebook, but now I use MySpace."

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    1. Re:His facebook account is so canceled! by Scaba · · Score: 1

      His facebook account is so canceled! But I bet he could do commercials for MySpace. "I designed the look and feel of facebook, but now I use MySpace."

      Why not? Even Myspace Tom has a Facebook page.

  4. Scary by gmuslera · · Score: 5, Funny

    He owns Faceboo

    1. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Funny, Facebook in general is about 84% scary, including myself.
      I can't count how many years of bad luck i have from all those broken mirrors. No, really, i can't, it's a serious concern, a serious concern.

    2. Re:Scary by rjch · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, since 84% of 8 = 6.72, it would be more accurate to say that he owns Faceboc.

    3. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod parent up!
      (one of the funniest thing i've seen on ./ for a while!

    4. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      WOOSH

    5. Re:Scary by bennomatic · · Score: 4, Informative

      The last letter isn't a 'c', it's an 'o' that's missing the last 28%. Actually a very clever, opportunistic visual pun, if you ask me.

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    6. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woosh

    7. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      imbecile
      dolt
      moron
      idiot
      tool
      scum
      ugly
      worthless

      These are things that describe you, witnessed here by your ability to comprehend hilarity.

    8. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, you are hilarious.

    9. Re:Scary by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      Don't bother iammani clearly has no sense of humor.

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    10. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, if he owns the latter part,
      he owns acebook

    11. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      84% of thefacebook ~= facebook
      So he pretty much owns the entire thing now, and Zucker just gets "the"

    12. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last letter isn't a 'c', it's an 'o' that's missing the last 28%. Actually a very clever, opportunistic visual pun, if you ask me.

      no, I wont ask you

    13. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You compulsion to explain the obvious spoils the intended whit

    14. Re:Scary by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      That's wit, not whit, and no, it informs the morons who didn't get it.

      Nothing spoils the wit about an explanation you didn't need.

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    15. Re:Scary by cephus440 · · Score: 1

      How about the numeric values of "facebook" 6 1 3 5 2 15 15 11 = 58 * .84 = 49 The same value as "Faceboob" ASCII you say? "Facebook": 70 97 99 101 98 111 111 107 = 794 * .86 = 667 Same as "Facebo[" Okay, not nearly as interesting.

    16. Re:Scary by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      Well, I respect him/her for putting it out there. The ACs who spewed their vitriol on this branch of the conversation, however, are far less savory beings.

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    17. Re:Scary by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      Then I won't tell you!

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  5. Whats next???? by evanism · · Score: 5, Insightful

    given the "issues" Z-man has, one may wonder how many of these skeletons are in his closet? A bent sapling never grows straight.

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    1. Re:Whats next???? by larry+bagina · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      If you're accusing him of being a homo, he's not. A little bi-curious maybe, but he definitely likes tha vag.

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    2. Re:Whats next???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how do you know that? :P

    3. Re:Whats next???? by Machtyn · · Score: 1

      Umm... no, he's accusing the Z-man of having a shady past (skeletons in his closet) that the he would not want becoming public knowledge.

    4. Re:Whats next???? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Being gay would be an easy out for the Zuck.

  6. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook was taken over by monkeys

  7. Contracts by helix2301 · · Score: 1

    This contract does seem kind of shady and plus sounds like a college made deal its probably written in pencil on scrap paper from an old algebra test. That's not a joke when I went to college two CS majors did that for a contract. I seriously dough this will stand up in court Facebook is not going to change hands.

    1. Re:Contracts by Itninja · · Score: 3, Insightful

      seriously dough

      So I am guessing you were also a CS major?

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    2. Re:Contracts by box4831 · · Score: 5, Funny

      nah, he recently got a nre Kinesis keybiartf as well.

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    3. Re:Contracts by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      A written contract is binding, just as a verbal one is. The difference is that the written contract has evidence, the verbal one is on each party's honor.

      It doesn't matter if it was crayon on toilet paper, if it's got signatures, then it's a valid and fully binding contract.

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    4. Re:Contracts by Canazza · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:Contracts by Stick32 · · Score: 1

      seriously dough

      So I am guessing you were also a CS major?

      Hey!! I two was a CS major and I take a fence to that!!

    6. Re:Contracts by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      No, he's a chef. Chefs make some serious dough!

  8. Not going to matter by dward90 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Regardless of whether or not the guy wins some money in the lawsuit, nothing will change. Zuckerberg might be slightly less rich. But he will still be rich, and an asshole. Facebook will still suck.

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    1. Re:Not going to matter by bsDaemon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Isn't Zuckerberg's money all on paper? And not the green, cash-y kind? My point is, if there is an injunction against transfer of assets, then can he sell his stock to get cash? Standard IANAL and all that, but this could prove to be more than just a passing amusement.

    2. Re:Not going to matter by Abstrackt · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Isn't Zuckerberg's money all on paper? And not the green, cash-y kind? My point is, if there is an injunction against transfer of assets, then can he sell his stock to get cash? Standard IANAL and all that, but this could prove to be more than just a passing amusement.

      Unless expressly stated otherwise we already assume you're not a lawyer. ;)

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    3. Re:Not going to matter by bsDaemon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is it that obvious? I mean, I try to be a good person, but I didn't know how well it came across. Thanks for believing I'm not a lawyer.

    4. Re:Not going to matter by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      Well you get a couple guys in here who go all defacto Tortalini with all their fancy latin words and you can never tell if they are a lawyer or not, so whenever someone mentions some Fianchetto Defense, its nice if they express if they are a lawyer or not.

    5. Re:Not going to matter by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Maybe the Zuck can become a new former Accidental Millionaire. He could move into an efficiency apartment with Eric Raymond.

      We can dream, anyway, can't we?

    6. Re:Not going to matter by Abstrackt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is it that obvious? I mean, I try to be a good person, but I didn't know how well it came across. Thanks for believing I'm not a lawyer.

      Always a pleasure. If you'd like me to doubt you in other endeavors as well please let me know!

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    7. Re:Not going to matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you said "defacto" and "with all their fancy latin words"... I lolled

    8. Re:Not going to matter by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      I sometimes say IANALBMWI (I am not a lawyer but my wife is), and it gives me an air of authority, even though I'm still just making shit up that would totally cause my better half to do an extreme facepalm.

      Everything I know about the law I learned from Perry Mason.

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    9. Re:Not going to matter by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Actually (not that this contract has any hope IMO) if Zuckerberg had promised 85% of the company to some random guy and not told the VCs, you can bet they're not just going to say "that's ok Mark, we thought we owned a 60% share of the company but we can all just split what's left!" More like, "ok, his share comes out of YOUR share first, buddy..."

    10. Re:Not going to matter by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      Regardless of whether or not the guy wins some money in the lawsuit

      If the claim is legitimate (and it appears to be on the surface) the guy wins 84% of any sale of facebook, and potentially 84% of Zuckerberg's fortune (since it's all on paper) - that 4 billion will suddenly become 650 million - quite a drop!

      Not only that, but Zuckerberg will no longer have a controlling interest in the company. In business, the minor shareholder gets zero say in the business. It will effectively become Ceglia's Facebook, not Zuckerberg's.

      Unfortunately, Ceglia sounds like just as big a douche as Zuckerberg, so likely little will change on the face of Facebook.

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    11. Re:Not going to matter by lowtek77 · · Score: 1

      I love the chess allusion :)

    12. Re:Not going to matter by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Assets and money are different things.

    13. Re:Not going to matter by Aphoxema · · Score: 1

      Unless expressly stated otherwise we already assume you're not a lawyer. ;)

      Says you, I don't assume there's any lawyers, physicists, mathematicians or any of that higher education stuff on Slashdot. Everyone on the internet lacks credentials by design of anonyminity.

      It's all one big networked lie completely lacking any veracity!

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    14. Re:Not going to matter by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      Isn't stock an asset? Or do we only count depreciable items? It really don't make any sense to get an injunction against the transfer of office supplies, however stock indicates control of the company. If a majority of stock were transferred out of Zuckerberg's control, and the court ruled that this dude is only entitled to 84% of Zuckerberg's shares, not 84% of the whole company, but Zberg transferred most of his shares to someone else like an under-the-table escrow, then the claim becomes worth a lot less. At the end of the day, this is going to boil down to a battle over shares, not over stuff.

    15. Re:Not going to matter by Aphoxema · · Score: 1

      you said "defacto" and "with all their fancy latin words"... I lolled

      That's 'merican talk. We done liberated it fer us.

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    16. Re:Not going to matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually (not that this contract has any hope IMO) if Zuckerberg had promised 85% of the company to some random guy and not told the VCs, you can bet they're not just going to say "that's ok Mark, we thought we owned a 60% share of the company but we can all just split what's left!" More like, "ok, his share comes out of YOUR share first, buddy..."

      More like: "Mister FTC, we want Zuck in prison, and not white collar country club prison."

  9. The Pellet thief by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The story gets even jucier:

    In 2009, New York Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo obtained a restraining order against Allegany Pellets, a western New York wood pellet company owned by Ceglia and his wife Iasia. Cuomo accused the company of defrauding consumers by taking $200,000 in orders but not delivering any products or issuing any refunds. That case is reportedly ongoing.

    An odd detail is that 84% number is said to be as of 2004. Why 2004?

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    1. Re:The Pellet thief by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 5, Funny

      They had to take him to a pellet court.

    2. Re:The Pellet thief by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      An odd detail is that 84% number is said to be as of 2004. Why 2004?

      Because the website was finished in Feb 2004 - the increasing stake in the business was based on the status of the website after Jan 1 2004. For every day after Jan 1, Ceglia got an increased 1% stake in the business until the website was finished. It was finished 34 days later, that's an extra 34% stake in the company.

      Thus, 84% instead of 50%, and it stopped growing Feb 4, 2004.

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    3. Re:The Pellet thief by malhombre · · Score: 2

      Good one!

  10. Here is the photostat of the contract by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Interesting
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    1. Re:Here is the photostat of the contract by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I predict a novel legal theory being invented that will protect the big corporation from a seemingly straightforward contract.

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    2. Re:Here is the photostat of the contract by Surt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I predict that thefacebook and facebook will be found to be separable entities, and that ceglia gets 84% of thefacebook.

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    3. Re:Here is the photostat of the contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go read HN's coverage. They got an actual lawyer to analyze it and he says it's bogus in many, many ways.

      For one thing, the whole way they got the TRO without notice to Facebook is absurd. For another, the relief they're requesting can't be granted as a matter of law, etc.

      Expect this to get dissolved quickly. The guy filing the lawsuit seems to be a shady character.

      Then again, maybe that means he really does know Zuckerburg. Who knows?

    4. Re:Here is the photostat of the contract by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Doubt it. Likely they will be found to be part owners however, their ownership will be diminished by the additional investment in the company since the original contract. That investment we of course exclude re-investment of generated revenue. Likely the privacy invasive 'tea leaf' has just lost a chunk of his part of the company but other latter investors have lost nothing. Of course if people think this small guy can not beat the millions to be spend of facebook lawyers, he can always sell the contract to a wealthy litigation specialising law firm (them buying it also helps to validate it's value).

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    5. Re:Here is the photostat of the contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There doesn't have to be a novel legal theory being invented.

      There is a thing called 'Unfair Contract' which originally came about due to recording artists, musicians, songwriters, artists, authors etc etc being duped out of earnings by stupid contracts where their managers, record companies etc ended up getting the copyright, 90% of the earnings etc. If you can prove that the contract was unfair in any way, ie unrealistic in expectations etc. then the contract gets rewritten by the court to a more satisfactory sort of contract and earnings get re-distibuted.

      If the court rules that the original contract was unfair (ie the amount leant doesn't equate to the amount being sort compared to the amount of work done etc) then the plaintiff might end up with anywhere from 0% to 84% of Facebook plus a earnings being distributed ... example, the guy might end up with 50% of Facebook and some dollar values based on what Facebook has earned (that the plaintiff may not have been aware of).

    6. Re:Here is the photostat of the contract by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, some stupid thing like 'conscionability' or some loophole like that.

    7. Re:Here is the photostat of the contract by julesh · · Score: 1

      I predict a novel legal theory being invented that will protect the big corporation from a seemingly straightforward contract.

      You mean like the well-known fact you have to enforce a contract within 7 years of it being breached, and that this breach apparently occurred 7 years and 2 months before this case was brought to court?

    8. Re:Here is the photostat of the contract by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      What was the breach event? I thought it was selling 20% to Microsoft.

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    9. Re:Here is the photostat of the contract by julesh · · Score: 1

      What was the breach event? I thought it was selling 20% to Microsoft.

      Don't think so. I'd say it's not transferring it when delivery became late.

    10. Re:Here is the photostat of the contract by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Don't think so. I'd say it's not transferring it when delivery became late.

      What sort of delivery? The contract specifies the ownership structure - there were no stock certificates to hand over. As of completion of the contract the guy would own 84%.

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  11. This could be a good thing for Facebook by assertation · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This could be a good thing for Facebook.

    I hate to put it this superficially, but about 60% of the trouble is in can be traced back to CEO Mark Zuckerberg's immaturity with handling people. If someone does indeed own 84% of Facebook they could simply order him to stop making public statements.

    In fact, he could take it a step further and put out spin how FB is under new derangement, with new policies and better tech coming down the road.

    1. Re:This could be a good thing for Facebook by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Funny

      put out spin how FB is under new derangement

      What an interesting comment on the state of Facebook. I've always suspected Facebook represented some type of derangement, now you are suggesting that what it needs is new derangement.

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    2. Re:This could be a good thing for Facebook by characterZer0 · · Score: 1

      Really? You think this guy wants facebook and would not simply sell his 84% stake immediately?

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    3. Re:This could be a good thing for Facebook by assertation · · Score: 1

      He would end up selling his stake to someone, who would then have majority control and who would then have the authority to put Zuckerberg in a position other than CEO.

    4. Re:This could be a good thing for Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool! Someone to out jew the jew!

    5. Re:This could be a good thing for Facebook by delinear · · Score: 1

      Whether they'd do that, when Zuckerber is already the public face of Facebook and therefore a good target for bashing to deflect any bad feeling from the true owners is another matter. I could easily see a big IT corp picking this up and keeping Z. around (on a nice fat salary or share options) to take any flak over privacy concerns, etc. - he's the ready-made scapegoat.

  12. Facebook's power by Robotron23 · · Score: 1

    Before we get excited at the prospect of this guy winning against Facebook, it's worth reminding ourselves that Zuckerberg - founder/owner of Facebook - is heavily ingratiated with a number of high profile political figures.

    An example would be a video chat he held with UK Prime Minister David Cameron just a few days ago, the courteousness all too apparant. I can't remember a firm being seriously damaged through the legal system so soon after establishing itself as a ubiquitous and accepted tool by the establishment. The hoohah over the panic button they're now putting in to 'protect the children' is proof that Zuckerberg's cavalier attitude towards privacy will stand, and that we can expect more of the same from Facebook in coming years.

    The most feasible way for Facebook to become less influential would not be financial woes through lawsuits...it would have to be another exodus of the same flavour that led to Myspace's relatively irrelevant/musically inclined position. But pride does come before a fall though, and arrogance is certainly something young Zuck isn't short of.

    1. Re:Facebook's power by iammani · · Score: 1

      You know what politicians do when you ask them for help, especially when your primary source of income & political power is at stake, they RUN.

    2. Re:Facebook's power by Robotron23 · · Score: 1

      I know that making sweeping generalizations isn't wise, a lot of the time.

      If you're so right, how come so many politicians have found themselves in scandal over support for certain vested interests?

      What about the upper civil service both in the UK and US, which constantly holds meetings behind closed doors in order to consolidate their own power and incomes? Military-industrial complex has probably done quite a bit of beneficial hobnobbing with politicians; it has mostly led to beneficial outcomes...can't see anyone running for the hills when that lot's in trouble.

      I could do you a nice list of things in business and in the public sector which quietly request assistance on matters, and get it.

    3. Re:Facebook's power by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative

      I can't remember a firm being seriously damaged through the legal system so soon after establishing itself as a ubiquitous and accepted tool by the establishment.

      Read more business history. Ones that come to mind immediately are Lehman Brothers, Barings, Enron, Lloyds of London, and Worldcom. Disputes over ownership and contracts happen all the time.

      For more details on the background, see this CNET story.

    4. Re:Facebook's power by Plekto · · Score: 1

      True, but the real issue is that he entered into a contract and then "forgot" about it in the past few years, probably either legitimately forgetting about it, or more likely, but hoping that that mistake would not ever see the light of day. Given Zuckerberg's apparent fly-by-the-seat-of-my-pants style, and his ego, he's probably invented a whole litany of reasons in his own head already about why it didn't actually happen. But it looks like he really did do something he shouldn't have.
      (talk about one expensive skeleton in the closet!)

      1 - It appears to be legitimate and typical of the idiocy one does in College or as a small DIYer who knows jack all about legal matters. They split it 50/50 at first(this part is iron-clad in any court) and then the other 25+% clause kicked in. In this case, you'll see Zuckerberg in court being asked one question by the judge - "is this your signature"? And that's it - done deal. The punitive clause might be removed as unenforceable or as usurious, but the original 50/50 split is valid.

      2 - And, no, while I'm not a lawyer, any basic book on copyright law(my focus was music as I was a professional musician after college, so I'm fairly up to date with the basics at least) tells you that you sign agreements like this as if they were in blood(if you ever do, that is), because even if it literally is on a napkin, you're SOL if it gets to court. Barring illegal clauses and so on, naturally. 1% a day might not be enforceable. But that's all that is really up for discussion as I see it.

      The worst case that he can see out of this is that he still owns 50% of Facebook and can block any sale.(all he has to do is buy one share on the open market to get control). Either way, he can ream Zuckerberg if he wants to - or maybe he won't and Facebook will just have to split its stock and give the entire split to him. Welcome the new CEO. (not going to make it any better, but whatever...)

      The moral of the story is quite simple, and all too often repeated. Don't sell patents or parts of your start-up business if you ever plan to use it in a commercial manner. Because it will come back to haunt you. Crying, whining, and complaining won't help you in front of a judge later on.(if I had a dime for every sob story I heard from fellow musicians over the years, I could write an encyclopedia)

    5. Re:Facebook's power by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Most, if not all, of those fail the "so soon" part that was the operative term in the post to which you're responding.

    6. Re:Facebook's power by sinclair44 · · Score: 1

      The hoohah over the panic button they're now putting in to 'protect the children' is proof that Zuckerberg's cavalier attitude towards privacy will stand, and that we can expect more of the same from Facebook in coming years.

      It's not really a panic button: http://eu.techcrunch.com/2010/07/12/facebook-has-not-launched-a-panic-button-its-smarter-than-that/

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    7. Re:Facebook's power by delinear · · Score: 1

      What difference does that make - is it worse if the tool is in dispute soon after the establishment accepts it? I would have thought entrenchment would be a much bigger issue, especially having worked with some governmental bodies and seeing how incredibly reliant they are on the likes of MS.

    8. Re:Facebook's power by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      it's worth reminding ourselves that Zuckerberg ... is heavily ingratiated with a number of high profile political figures. An example would be ... UK Prime Minister David Cameron

      Yeah, David Cameron will totally take care of this for his pal The Zucker. It's fun to try to anticipate how, though. What do you envision? Lightning assault by the SAS? Threat of trade sanctions against the USA including withholding of Red Dwarf reruns? Something involving redcoats perchance?

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  13. Careful... by dpilot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No matter how big an jerk you may think Zuckerberg is, and no matter how bad you may think Facebook is, it is practically always possible to get worse.

    Not knowing anything that I didn't learn in the last 5 minutes, upon seeing this article, this Ceglia guy certainly has a running start on both. The enemy of your enemy may not be your friend - just a different enemy.

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    1. Re:Careful... by dward90 · · Score: 1

      Certainly true. I suspect that even if Ceglia takes over (which seems unlikely), he will make Facebook suck differently. Probably not better or worse, but differently.

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    2. Re:Careful... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      What you say may be true. But this dude looks like he will flame and burn quickly. Outta our sight quickly. We're stuck with the Zuck for a long time unless something changes. Zuck is an Marc Andreesen type figure, i.e. someone who unfortunately wasn't smothered as a young child.

    3. Re:Careful... by dstar · · Score: 1

      "The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, nothing more, nothing less."

    4. Re:Careful... by delinear · · Score: 1

      My guess is he has no interest in running Facebook as a going concern, or he would have come forward sooner. He probably just wants to dump it for a quick profit. I expect, if he does win, the usual suspects (Google, MS, etc) will fight it out over this one.

    5. Re:Careful... by steelfood · · Score: 1

      Depends on the end that you seek. If you want to see Facebook to DIAF, you probably would want this guy to win. On the other hand, if you want Facebook to be better about privacy and such, then neither outcome would be beneficial to you.

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  14. Thumbs up by bojangler · · Score: 1

    Bojangler likes this

  15. Re:English--learn it! by bigrockpeltr · · Score: 1
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  16. Hold on. by leuk_he · · Score: 1

    I first need to move my crop of tomatos to an other games network.

    And did i mention i just got a orange cow?

  17. Yes, your honor, it *is* on a bar napkin... by RevWaldo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...but it's a legally binding bar napkin!

    .

    1. Re:Yes, your honor, it *is* on a bar napkin... by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 4, Informative
      As long as the napkin has the proper info on it, it can be binding:

      http://www.post-gazette.com/regionstate/20001102napkin5.asp

    2. Re:Yes, your honor, it *is* on a bar napkin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Reminds me of an episode of "Love American Style" I saw looooooong ago. The rich old guy on the deserted island wrote the check on the young woman's abdomen in berry juice.

      Of course I'm posting as AC - you don't think I'd admit on Slashdot to ever having watched "Love American Style" do you?

    3. Re:Yes, your honor, it *is* on a bar napkin... by HiThere · · Score: 1

      The contract (or check) written in berry juice wouldn't be sustained...because it would wash off.

      (I wonder if a photo of it would make it valid?)

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    4. Re:Yes, your honor, it *is* on a bar napkin... by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      Ha! I live in Altoona! I wonder what happened, because it's no longer the "House of Chang", it's called Yamato.

      Note, Non-RTFCAers,that he lost his case because the deal on the napkin really didn't make any sense.

      Also note, that no, not that much happens here. Police smash beer bottles over eachother's heads in disputes at parties at judges houses, and then beat 59 year old men so bad they end up in the ICU at local bars.

    5. Re:Yes, your honor, it *is* on a bar napkin... by BarefootClown · · Score: 1

      Lucy v. Zehmer, 196 Va. 493; 84 S.E.2d 516 (1954).

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  18. I've got a question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If he wins does he have to pay 84% of the debts?

  19. the correct PC phrase is "differently abled" by Thud457 · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:the correct PC phrase is "differently abled" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      No. This is NYC, not Europe! (rtfs)

    2. Re:the correct PC phrase is "differently abled" by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

      That's the thing in New York Harbor right...

  20. O-L-D by IP_Troll · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The order baring transfer of assets was only good until July 9th, it is now July 13th. So what happened?

    1. Re:O-L-D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  21. Zuckerpunched! by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

    It says the hearing was scheduled for july 9, what was the outcome?

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    1. Re:Zuckerpunched! by mjwx · · Score: 1

      It says the hearing was scheduled for 9 July, what was the outcome?

      They've agreed to drag the case on for another 4 months.

      Debate about whether they are having pasta or steak for lunch is ongoing.

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  22. publicity stunt for upcoming Facebook Movie? by peter303 · · Score: 1

    This is a far out suggestion. But the autumn a movie about Facebook's rise called The Social Network is coming out. Its supposed to talk about Zuckerbergs's naughty habits, if anyone cares.

  23. The artist formerly known as Prince by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is surely behind this.

  24. 8-bit über alles! by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    M.U.L.E. 0WNZ all your crappy newfangled web games and always will.

    since the beginning of time.

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    1. Re:8-bit über alles! by gmhowell · · Score: 1
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  25. Incompetence = good? by dragonhunter21 · · Score: 1

    I think this is the first time a judge's incompetence in relation to computers actually improved the internet as a whole.

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  26. The validity of social networking by DRAGONWEEZEL · · Score: 1

    is not at stake here. Whatever smacks facebook down, it will be like killing napster. 10 more p2p clients sprung up then, some of them still in wide use. The worst possible thing this could do is give myspace another shot. (it wont though)

    Social networking, wether we want it or not, is here to stay. Facebook may be dirty, but it's still an awesome way to keep up w/ acquaintences & distant family. Clsoe Friends you will call or they will call you.

    A recent study showed that most people have between 4-7 "groups" of friends that they belong to. Socialnetworking may be obnoxious some times, but it helps me know when parties w/ my outlying groups happen. THIS is where I do my catching up, not online.

    As for the content of the article, I didn't read it! I'm just responding to the responses which 1/2 of which are critical of facebook, the other 1/2 can't stand social networking in general. and a small population who sees it for what it is... not much, just a way of saying hey to mult. people @ once, and sharing photos, vids, endorsing products like Cheetos, the cheeze that goes crunch, and sexual preferances.

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    1. Re:The validity of social networking by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      Whatever smacks facebook down, it will be like killing napster. 10 more p2p clients sprung up then, some of them still in wide use.

      The problem with 10 social networking sites is that all your friends are then spread across them and it's a giant pain in the ass to keep track of all of your friends.

      So it comes down to inconvenience, and users - not wanting inconvenience - will slowly gravitate together on one site. Thus there can be only one or two giant "Social Networking" sites - and that's the bit that people don't like, it has that faint 1984-esque all-knowing taint to it.

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    2. Re:The validity of social networking by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      So it comes down to inconvenience, and users - not wanting inconvenience - will slowly gravitate together on one site. Thus there can be only one or two giant "Social Networking" sites - and that's the bit that people don't like, it has that faint 1984-esque all-knowing taint to it.

      I think the future is probably in a more open protocol facilitating the exchange of this "social networking" information between sites.

      In the beginning, email was often limited to one site, or only had very limited gateway facilities to the outside. Even quite late in the game, systems like AOL grew to huge sizes before they really talked with the outside world. Facebook is similar to AOL in its pre-opening-to-the-internet heyday.

      One day someone will come along with an easy way for everyone's favourite PHPBB forum to share profiles and likes/dislikes and PMs with every other interested site on the web, and everyone will return to their corners again, while Facebook withers up.

      There are just too many interesting things to be done that Facebook isn't doing, and too many people with good ideas who don't want to wait around for Zuckerberg to buy them.

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  27. unfinished business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's nothing, back in the early nineties I gave Zuckerberg 2 dollars and a corn cob to paint my fence. Which he never did! Paint my goddamn fence you thieving bastard!

  28. Facebook is a BATFE(ces), NSA, FBI, and CIA psy-op by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They collect genealogy information for Interpol to trace outstanding debts of immigrants to compel them to refund their enfranchise cost back to the Royal Families that payed for their travels.

    Just don't do it (register, I mean). It starts-off like The Social Security Act, then everyone assumes it as involuntary to the point that it becomes the leading form of Indentity Theft right next to State ID and Drive Licenses (as well, Licenses are always commercia, because Case law and Statutes prove that "roads are Open as a matter of Right to Public Vehicular Travel").

  29. Yeah that's the thing. by DRAGONWEEZEL · · Score: 1

    Social networks won't go away. Because, well, they are social!

    The actual app we use to navigate that network will most certainly change, but the ones out today won't be the ones we use in the future. Not if I have anything to say about it.

    I like the idea of a constant profile. How would this be stored? The problem w/ decentralized networks is that "someone" has to host that data, or everyone has to host that data. Some sort of P2P model for distributing Social netoworking "profiles" would be an interesting concept indeed!

    I'll tell you what my wife thinks of myspace & facebook. Myspace was too customizable. Facebook is "easy."

    I think myspace failed because it's too egocentric. it's all about me, and not about my friends. Facebook is too app centric.

    Steam, though having some cool features, is just myspace for gamers as far as social networking goes, but w/o the customizabillity.

    I'd indulge the idea of a personal XML based DB/ dataset that can be easily moved / tx'd. Something that you could customize based on the site you are in, but were not required to. A way to display at / search all social networking sites may comeout of that, or maybe it exists now? a facebook / myspace / myfaceass/ metacrawler?

    There are a few metaposting apps out there already.

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