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Ideas For a Great Control Room?

lewko writes "Our company is about to build a central monitoring facility and I'm looking for ideas/suggestions about the best hardware and the best way to make it comfortable for those manning a screen. It will be manned 24x7 and operators will be monitoring a variety of systems including security, network, fire, video and more. These will be observed via local multi-monitor workstations and a common videowall. This is going to be a massively expensive exercise and we only get one chance to get it right. The facility is in a secure windowless bunker and staff will generally be in there for many hours at a time. So we have to implement design elements which make it a 'happy' place. At the same time, it has to be ergonomically sound. Lastly, we will be showing it to our clients, so without undoing the above objectives, it would be nice if it was 'cool' (yet functional). Whilst Television doesn't transfer to real life always, think 'CTU' from 24."

421 comments

  1. Tapes... by Sharp-kun · · Score: 3, Funny

    You need one of those old cabinets with tape reels ticking around. Adds to the atmosphere and will remind clients of Thunderbirds etc,

    1. Re:Tapes... by dintech · · Score: 1

      Wikileaks have a new bunker in Sweeden. And it looks cool.

  2. Fake windows by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some fake windows, even just glass blocks with lights behind them, will do wonders. Also, make it so that people have to get up from chairs once in a while.

    1. Re:Fake windows by ModernGeek · · Score: 2, Funny

      Also, make it so that people have to get up from chairs once in a while.

      AWFUL! What you want are high-back chairs that support the neck so you don't have to support your body the entire time. Also full recline capabilities help, too. Ideally, they'll never have to get up from their chairs. Think fridge under the table with microwave on top, etc. Also, if they do need to move around for who know why, make it so that they can roll over to their destination. I modified my desk so that I can put my legs forward on a padded leather cushion instead of having them dangle, this really added to my quality of life in the office. I have to get up to fetch things from the fridge, but that was a sacrifice I made so that I had room for a spare chair next to me when the occasional friend stops in.

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    2. Re:Fake windows by xombo · · Score: 1

      Clearly you have no friends.

    3. Re:Fake windows by ModernGeek · · Score: 2, Funny

      Be quiet, you're just as bad as I am, if not worse.

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    4. Re:Fake windows by xombo · · Score: 1

      At least my office has a window.

    5. Re:Fake windows by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      You just described Topher Brink's setup...you forgot the arcade games and fridges though.

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    6. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another vote for quality chairs. A bad chair for someone forced to sit in it for hours at a time is torture.

    7. Re:Fake windows by jbssm · · Score: 1

      No wonder people are getting fat.

    8. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      No microwaves, no fridges in your control area. Believe me, you don't want a small fire or anything to damage your main room. Make them in a separate room that is not too far to walk but a fire retardant wall and door in between and the sprinkler system separate from your control room as well. That way a fire breaks out and it just floods the "kitchen" and not your control room. Make sure there is a drain in the floor your kitchen as well.

    9. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another vote for actually taking proper breaks and leaving your chair regularly.

      Being *forced* to sit in it for hours certainly is torture and you should look into whatever employee rights laws apply to you.

    10. Re:Fake windows by HungryHobo · · Score: 1

      make sure you put in some decent aircon and heaters.
      In winter feeling your fingers slowly turn to ice can be horrible but not nearly as bad as having to wipe sweat off your keyboard in summer.
      and put the dial where the people in the room can actually change it without going through 3 layers of bitter old building maintenance staff who like to watch the office staff sweat.
      I cannot stress that one enough.

      Also
      Put a bathroom less than 10 minutes walk away.
      make sure it's clean and remains stocked with plenty of toilet paper.

      these may sound like blindingly obvious simple things but so many workplaces seem to completely fail when it comes to these things.

      Finally a coffee machine is nice.

    11. Re:Fake windows by HungryHobo · · Score: 1

      Another small one.
      A few fans can make things far more pleasant even if the temperature is right.
      When you're a bit tired a breeze in the face can wake you up a bit and make you feel more alert.

      Cold water or ice dispensers are good as well as the coffee.

    12. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a network operator who just finished a 12 hour shift I can say high back isn't as important as back support, we have Aerons (low back) and they're soooooo much better then the high back ones we had.

    13. Re:Fake windows by pspahn · · Score: 1

      Put a bathroom less than 10 minutes walk away.

      I would hope it would be closer than that.

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    14. Re:Fake windows by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Sitting for too long a period if time, over time, will kill you - or didn't you read the story here on slashdot.

      You want to make it a happy place? Don't have cameras on people all the time. It not only shows a lack of trust, but it's dehumanizing. get off YOUR butt and pay them a visit if you want to be kept in the loop.

      What you have described is not conducive to continued alertness. People need variety. What you have described is a "show room", where people will be LESS alert, not more.

    15. Re:Fake windows by GIL_Dude · · Score: 1

      While I will agree you need good chairs, there is no reason to make people sit for hours at a time. We use sit-stand desks (they have a couple of buttons - three presets you can set and a up and down button). People can freely choose to sit or stand at will during their shift. Ergonomics work a lot better when you break up static posture.

    16. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope that post was satirical. You need to get up and walk a few times an hour; otherwise you'll get blood clots in your legs. It does happen and it can kill you.

    17. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What you want are high-back chairs that support the neck so you don't have to support your body the entire time. Also full recline capabilities help, too."

      And you call yourselves geeks.

      Buy a Lazy Boy. Attach easy glide furniture movers underneath. Done.

      I thought everyone did this in their man room, I mean love-slave, sorry, control room.

    18. Re:Fake windows by nacturation · · Score: 1

      What you want are high-back chairs that support the neck so you don't have to support your body the entire time. Also full recline capabilities help, too. Ideally, they'll never have to get up from their chairs.

      Is this the new Herman Miller Wall-e chair?

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    19. Re:Fake windows by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      There is a 'breakout area' and kitchenette within the bunker, albeit in a separate room. Food prep, water cooler and coffee machine(s) are there. As well as the reasons you state, it will also help the staff separate work from food/relaxation areas.

      No food or uncovered drinks will be allowed in the operational areas (coffee with a spillproof lid is fine).

      All equipment is suitably above the floor that if a flood occurs, the worst impact will be wet feet, not wet equipment.

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    20. Re:Fake windows by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      Thank you. We were already considering Aerons (which is my chair of choice) so your comment has helped reinforce this.

      As Aerons come in multiple sizes, we are getting a variety of them to suit people of different build. However it's hard to predict what these will be in the future. Do your colleagues choose their 'own' chair? Or are they unaware of the size difference and simply share them all.

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    21. Re:Fake windows by lewko · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bathroom is within the bunker and very close.

      Toilet paper is a great idea. Thank you.

      Management want the Three Seashells...

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    22. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Windows has Office, too!

      Oh, wait...

    23. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? I was also saying that sitting for too long is bad. I said this is a vote for leaving your chair regularly (ie. avoiding sitting for too long - because it's bad for you, as you said).

      Where did cameras on people come into it? Paying who a visit? Kept in what loop? And I suggested people getting up and taking a break, how is that describing something that "is not conductive to continued alertness?"

      What.... are you talking about? It's sounds like you're agreeing with me, but trying to argue against it at the same time, while drawing completely irrelevant things into the discussion. What are you going on about?

    24. Re:Fake windows by ksandom · · Score: 1

      Actually, this is a really good idea. Potentially a couple of old monitors could be stuck behind them with a live feed of something outside.

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    25. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Daylight balanced lights are a must

    26. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what you think.

    27. Re:Fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In addition to this, make sure the guys can work while standing-up, as well as sitting down. Spending long, long hours watching monitors while sitting is the perfect set-up to fall asleep. How many times have you been up late, watching something boring on TV, and have nodded off? Tall desks with comfortable, cushioned stools can help here.

      Also, if you're putting a bank of large TVs up on a wall, try to make sure the desks are far away enough that the staff don't have to look "up" at them. One way to do this is to have a rest area between the desks and the wall of TVs, with a sofa & coffee table and some vending machines close-by. The guys will be able to monitor things during their coffee breaks too, and aren't too far away if something catastrophic happens. Plus, they won't be tempted to take a snooze or a longer coffee break if everyone is looking over their heads at the screens!

    28. Re:Fake windows by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 1

      Work on a trading floor, have the aforementioned chairs....

      They are often accidentally swapped around (people dragging one over for a chat while people are on holiday, out for lunch, etc) and you just grab a free one and adjust it in 20 seconds.

      Hundreds of people here, ranging from around 4'8 to 6'10 - everyone is happy with the chairs.

    29. Re:Fake windows by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 1

      10 minutes walk for a bathroom?! Are you insane? This is an office, not a farm. Bathroom more than 1 minute away would be an issue in lost productivity.

    30. Re:Fake windows by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Sorry - it got posted under the wrong parent - I guess we can call it my blonde moment of the day.. Obviously we both believe that the sort of place they want to build is a hell-hole in comparison to even a laptop in a cafeteria.

      Video walls don't work. "Comfy chairs" so that people can remain in the same position for hours on end are cruel - just look at the increased rates of blood clots from sitting too long during long-distance airline travel. An environment where you know that every move you make is being recorded is par for the course for a criminal in a MaxSecure Prison, not someone who you've given decision-making responsibility.

      Even the astronauts removed their monitoring equipment because they didn't want ground control to be able to look at the telemetry and go "He's just taken a piss."

      Sometimes you need to cover for someone else; sometimes they need to cover for you. It's part of the give and take that builds robust systems. Theirs will have a higher rate of failure.

    31. Re:Fake windows by PastaLover · · Score: 1

      Another one, don't position any seats under an airconditioning vent and make sure everybody is getting about the same temp from the airco (i.e. uniform vents and no asymmetric arrangements).

  3. Star Trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These will be observed via local multi-monitor workstations and a common videowall.

    Like the bridge of the USS Entreprise?

    1. Re:Star Trek by wickedskaman · · Score: 1

      ... Voyager? :-/

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    2. Re:Star Trek by pcolaman · · Score: 1

      Wow, I'm a trek fan (and a Voyager fan, yes, one of the few) and even I think this dude is a mega-ultra dweeb.

    3. Re:Star Trek by shawb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Studio apartment... the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the studio Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before, and no woman ever will.

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    4. Re:Star Trek by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Wow, I'm a trek fan (and a Voyager fan, yes, one of the few) and even I think this dude is a mega-ultra dweeb.

      He does interior design for a living. Even if the client is not into Trek, it's a great show-piece of craftsmanship and execution. Thus, it's not just geekdom for geekdom's sake.

  4. Good lighting by oven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whatever you do, don't make it dark with blue-ish lighting, like on TV. That strains your eyes. Provide good lighting, and make sure the persons can sit or stand comfortably while watching the screens.

    1. Re:Good lighting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have to agree with this one. That blue lighting was left over from the old SAGE systems circa 1950s and 1960s. Those early displays had a dim amber display and the dim blue light was used to enhance the viewing of those displays. Today what you need is good lighting that doesn't wash out the dispays or create glare. It's also important to match refresh rates to the lighting to eliminate perceived flicker. (A 72Hz screen in a room with 60Hz or 120Hz llighting will always seem to flicker and it makes your eyes tired.) It's the little things.

    2. Re:Good lighting by Freddybear · · Score: 1

      I agree about the proper lighting. However, the usual run of LCD flat screen monitors won't show much if any flicker at any refresh rate.

      I'll have to disagree about matching refresh rates to power line frequency for CRT monitors, because the match is rarely if ever perfect. The computer monitor's refresh frequency is internally generated and not locked to the line frequency, and you'll end up with a strobe effect that is much worse than if you choose a higher refresh rate like 72 or 80 hz.

    3. Re:Good lighting by itlurksbeneath · · Score: 1

      Good point. Make the lighted area well lit, but the big screens on the wall, make them 12 - 15 feet away and the area they are in is not lighted (to reduce glare, improve contrast, reduce eye strain)

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    4. Re:Good lighting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As has always been the case with CRTs, you should match the refresh rate to the decay rate of the phosphors. That is not necessarily the fastest rate at which you can sync, though in cheap, multi-sync monitors that is often the case. Frankly I think it's absurd that typical home/office monitors ever went away from fixed refresh rates, because it almost always increases flicker. There might be some applications were you really want 90 Hz refresh, or where you actually need to sync to multiple refresh rates, but it's not common. And no one complains about the 50-60 Hz flicker with normal PAL/NTSC TV because the tubes are designed to be used at that refresh rate, and therefore *don't* flicker much even with the relatively slow scan.

      / Still not as funny as the people who complain about flicker from the 100 kHz LCD lighting because they misunderstand the meaning of the the 42 Hz panel refresh rate.

    5. Re:Good lighting by Aliotroph · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I do complain about the flicker from PAL/NTSC TV. It can't watch PAL TV at all. It's like staring into a strobe for me. This could be because I only have peripheral vision to work with. LCDs are the best thing that ever happened to me.

    6. Re:Good lighting by RobertM1968 · · Score: 1

      Good point. Make the lighted area well lit, but the big screens on the wall, make them 12 - 15 feet away and the area they are in is not lighted (to reduce glare, improve contrast, reduce eye strain)

      Problem with lighting too well is it supposedly causes eye strain. A darkened room is supposedly better for long term LCD/CRT viewing, hence you will find that most large, professional sit rooms like this have lower lighting.

      The better alternative is to use zone/pool lighting to keep eye strain down, while providing areas of brightness more appropriate to other activities.

    7. Re:Good lighting by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      Don't skimp on ventilation. I've been in plenty of enclosed rooms like this where I quickly develop a headache and can't concentrate, because there isn't jack for air circulation. I try to sit next to the door in conference rooms because of this, so that I can keep it slightly ajar and slip out to breathe without making a scene.

    8. Re:Good lighting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The other thing is to avoid too much brightness from the monitors themselves -- naturally everyone can adjust the LCDs at their workstation, but if the video wall is LCD or plasma screens (projectors are rarely bright enough to be an issue), that needs to be controllable. Ideally, the users of the room will be able to control it dynamically -- better yet, they'd have some level of control, and if (as others have discussed) you have a walk-in intrusion-warning system, where a buzzer, some blinky lights, or whatever gives everyone 10 seconds notice to stop picking their nose, minimize /., etc., you can tie that in so that the vid-wall ramps up to full brightness before the customers walk in/shades on the glass wall open/whatever.

        I had a few meetings in a bad case -- the room was appropriately lit. (If anything, a hair dark, but I like it that way -- I can use my desk lamp if I need to do work on paper, but I'm not going to don Riddick goggles to spare my eyes when computing.) But the retarded-bright plasmas covering one wall made it like stepping into the sun every time you turn your head to look at it. I know it must have seemed impressive to the suits when they looked it over, hey, I thought it was damn sweet when I first saw it (which is why I suggest letting it ramp up like that for visiting suits). But about a half-hour in, the shiny had worn off, and it was just a nuisance and reduced productivity, as you had to wait for your eyes and brain to adapt each time you switched back and forth. Maybe only a second, but it's enough time to lose fluidity. You really don't want that.

    9. Re:Good lighting by e70838 · · Score: 1

      Use candles to lighten the room (and sun when possible) => no flicker.

    10. Re:Good lighting by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      "Problem with lighting too well is it supposedly causes eye strain. A darkened room is supposedly better for long term LCD/CRT viewing"

      The opposite is actually true. Some people prefer to sit in a darkened area, claiming that it helps. But in fact that is harder on the eyes. The work area itself should be brightly lit but indirectly, to avoid any reflections or glare from the screen.

      Another bad practice is to use low ambient light with bright spots or "task lights" on the work area. This not only increases glare from screens but also causes the eyes to frequently try to adjust from bright to dim light and vice versa, which is very straining.

    11. Re:Good lighting by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

      Apropiate ventilation for smokers. Blue light reduces melatonine production. My perfect workspace.

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  5. My favorite NOC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://ccs-pk.chace-school.net/files-2008/at-and-t-noc-pic.jpg

    1. Re:My favorite NOC by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I'm sure glad they come with a convenient, obvious self-destruct mechanism. No way that could go wrong. No sir.

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    2. Re:My favorite NOC by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1, Informative

      Ack, I fail - meant to reply to the comment below this: #33483590 I hang my head in shame and await down-moderation.

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  6. Secure windowless bunker by RDW · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:Secure windowless bunker by EdIII · · Score: 1

      You could just post what we are all really looking for and thinking....

      Hollowed Out Magma Lair with retractable Mojo Relaxation Center (mood lighting included).

    2. Re:Secure windowless bunker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bzzzt! Put it way way WAY up in the air. Buy and old fire tower, or build on top of the only high rise in a small city. If at all possible, suspend it from tethered balloons. Gotta be able to look out at the horizon when your thinking, good for the eyes, y'know?

    3. Re:Secure windowless bunker by aurizon · · Score: 1

      one of the things I hate with police videos I see is the low resolution, either color or black and white. This should be fixed in the design phase.
      Invest the $$ to get extra high resolution cameras and monitors, and make them multispectrum so they can be switched to IR view(or have a separate IR camera you can inspect the video of.
      These things are going to be manned 24/7 for years, so the one time costs will be spread over a long time and the benefits are permanent. Build in the ability to upgrade easily.
      We also see perps who spray the camera lenses. Why not have hidden cams and include a false cam to get sprayed.
      Also mikes and speakers are assumed, as well as temperature indicators.
      As for comfort? You want sleeping beauties? You need the ability to surveil the surveillors, maybe taped etc, in such a way that it cannot be turned off by the crew.
      As for security of data. You need a backup hard drive system for 7 days feed, or more if you wish, hard drives are sooo cheap now. You need the backup to be in a safe the crew cannot open, but the bosses can, maybe even elswehere, with an umjammable fiber/rf link?

    4. Re:Secure windowless bunker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you forgot something...

  7. You're bringing in clients? by mmcxii · · Score: 1

    One word: Kegerator

  8. Subscriptions to Huster, Playboy, et al. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These are print subscriptions, not website subscriptions.

  9. The Red Button by cosm · · Score: 4, Funny

    A big red button with a sign above it that says 'DO NOT PRESS'.

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    1. Re:The Red Button by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And when someone presses it, make another sign ligth up saying "Please do not press this button again."

    2. Re:The Red Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How about a switch with two positions, labeled "magic" and "more magic."

    3. Re:The Red Button by AffidavitDonda · · Score: 1

      And finally it shuts down the company servers...
      (for the educational value)

    4. Re:The Red Button by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      And when someone presses it, make another sign ligth up saying "Please do not press this button again."

      No, no, no. When you push the button, the sensei has to come out and kick you in the nuts.

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    5. Re:The Red Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not funny.

    6. Re:The Red Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Psh. Everyone know when you push the big red button a disco ball drops from the ceiling and disco music starts playing.

    7. Re:The Red Button by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Not just the company's servers. Also the cooling system. Immediately.

    8. Re:The Red Button by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Also, buttons labeled 'Eject Warp Core' or 'Eject Operator' are a must. You can even implement the latter...

    9. Re:The Red Button by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      I was doing a reference to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, not Family Guy.

    10. Re:The Red Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      implementing the former would be more fun

    11. Re:The Red Button by rah1420 · · Score: 1

      We more or less had one of these.

      It was third shift at Purolator Courier's data center. We'd just finished the night's batch run, we were running the backups, CICS was getting ready to come back up.

      We had had some squirrelly underfloor sensors all day, because the cleaning people had been in to vacuum under the floor which always stirs up dust and sets them off. It would kick the trouble alarm rather infrequently through the overnight. We'd yawn, wake up, go over to the annunciator panel, hit "Reset" and that would be it.

      A gung ho tape jockey had come in to relieve the shift supervisor, who had retired to the shift supervisor's office for a nap after a hard night of pressing the "Enter" key. GHTJ sits bolt upright at the next sounding of the alarm and goes over to the annunciator panel, opens it, and apparently not realizing it's a trouble alarm figures he'd save the night's work by hitting the Halon Dump Abort switch so that we wouldn't have to evacuate the data center - halon being not very breathable, you see. However, the annunciator cover was open and his head was in the innards, and his aim was a bit off...

      Yup.

      Right for the Emergency Power Cutoff.

      BAM! The breakers all popped, lights went off, fans sighed to a halt here in the operations room. The one where the tape drives and consoles and printers were. We knew with a sinking feeling that the same thing was happening on the floor above us, where the CPUs and DASD (Direct Access Storage Device, "Disks" to those of you from Rio Linda) were now sighing to a halt, their circuit breakers tripped and un-resettable except by an IBM Customer Engineer.

      In the deafening silence, the phone rang. It was the Indianapolis air hub, which all of a sudden had sudden blank screens as all its planes came in for sorting the night's volume of packages...

      Whoops.

      The next night there was a plexiglass cover over the Emergency Power Cutoff switch. The Gung Ho Tape Jockey I think went back to hanging tapes. I don't remember.

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    12. Re:The Red Button by dintech · · Score: 1

      You need a PA system for when clients are visiting. It has to play random panicky announcements such as:

      "Doctor, the test subject has escaped!"

      or

      "Containment breach in Sector G!"

    13. Re:The Red Button by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      No, that's what the black button is for. You know, the one labelled black on a black background.

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    14. Re:The Red Button by youn · · Score: 1

      if someone presses it, make sure to have a sexy female voice say "doomsday device activated".... include a loud countdown to apocalypse, blinking lights, and way to counteract the measure at the other end of the building with lots of traps... for good measure, include speakers in the corridor leading to it that will follow the hero he has no chance of beating the system

      well, at's least what they do in the movies I've seen :)

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    15. Re:The Red Button by hoytak · · Score: 1

      Or "Launch Sequence Initiated."

      Which is actually a true story; my dad had a contract with NASA or JPL (I forget which), and some employees he was working with got sick of their boss coming in and fiddling with the lab equipment, so they set up such a button. "... After pressing it, he just stood there and stared at it quietly."

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    16. Re:The Red Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no, no. You need a Frankenstein-esque handled switch that one can "throw" to cut of power or the internet when you are being attacked by a virus or something.

  10. Natural light by Albanach · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, it sort of goes against 'being in a bunker', but if I was going to work somewhere for many hours, I'd like some natural light.

    Of course it's still possible to achieve that using reflective tubing or such like, though it might still undo whatever it is you seek to achieve by being underground.

    If it's not possible, I'd suggest paying lots of attention to lighting. And add some real plants too - they'll generate oxygen as well as making the environment seem less bunker like.

    1. Re:Natural light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could always bring the natural light down via solar collectors and fiber optic.

    2. Re:Natural light by deepskybear · · Score: 1

      Well, it sort of goes against 'being in a bunker', but if I was going to work somewhere for many hours, I'd like some natural light.

      Of course it's still possible to achieve that using reflective tubing or such like, though it might still undo whatever it is you seek to achieve by being underground.

      If it's not possible, I'd suggest paying lots of attention to lighting. And add some real plants too - they'll generate oxygen as well as making the environment seem less bunker like.

      I agree that you mush have good lighting. Use full spectrum bulbs to insure a better environment as the light emulates natural sunlight

    3. Re:Natural light by Krahar · · Score: 1

      I very much doubt that having a few or even a huge amount of plants in the room generates enough oxygen to make any detectable difference in the oxygen level of the air in there. As far as I know, the important things to pay attention to when attempting to improve air quality is ventilation and dust. With sufficient ventilation I doubt that any further increase in oxygen level does anything useful unless you a running a marathon inside the bunker.

    4. Re:Natural light by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      I'd like some natural light.

      Of course it's still possible to achieve that using reflective tubing

      What kind of nature do you come from anyway?

    5. Re:Natural light by dingram17 · · Score: 1

      Plants will only make O2 if there is enough light of the correct wavelength. Working under gro-tubes wouldn't be much fun, so probably best to go with the plastic plants.

    6. Re:Natural light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Working under gro-tubes wouldn't be much fun

      That depends on what you're growing...

    7. Re:Natural light by GeordieMac · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, lighting is very important, sound environment anechoic tiles, or hang curtains all along the walls, quiet electronics (consider removing computers from the room all together) and phones. HVAC It's very easy to underestimate this because the number of stations you design for will likely double in real life usage. Space is really expensive and managers will always choose to double usage of space before committing to buying more structure. Underground would be worse I imagine. redundancy: I think control rooms are a little archaeic and beyond that just plain dumb. "Let's put all the really important people in one place so that they can see each other when they talk to them because that's more important than business continuity, oh yeah and let's create one single point of failure while we are at it... If you are going to make a control room anyway, make sure you have multiple redundancies for every service you tie into and at every node or point of service. Otherwise, everyone gets a free high-speed internet connection at their home and use RSA-256 if need be. The internet was designed so that it could withstand world war three, why people still building bunkers is beyond me. Control rooms as a concept are a relic of the cold war and are as useful as the 27-volume encyclopedia set in my basement.

    8. Re:Natural light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Studies show that "natural" light that contains a lot of blue is actually puts much more strain on your eyes. Many people get headaches and such.

      Imagine looking at computer screens in direct sunlight all day. Unpleasant in the extreme, there is a reason people close the windows.

    9. Re:Natural light by Albanach · · Score: 1

      Well, I was working on the assumption that any such place would have corridors, somewhere to eat etc.

      It's also quite possible to focus grow lights on a plant without spreading light everywhere else.

      Someone else commented on the issue of natural light hitting computer screens. That too sounds like a design problem that allows unwanted light to hit those screens.

      These are issues that are hard to tackle in a retrofit. They should be an integral design aspect of a new build property.

    10. Re:Natural light by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      The kind where photons bounce?

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    11. Re:Natural light by Totenglocke · · Score: 1

      Natural light?! Turn in your nerd card right now! Nerds don't get this shade of white from natural light my friend!

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    12. Re:Natural light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think plants would cause more problems than they would be worth. They might die, which would be depressing. They would require some person of unknown trustworthiness to come in and take care of them. Their leaves would gather dust, they would bring spiders and mites, and their soil might exude fungi spores. Leave the plants out of it.

    13. Re:Natural light by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      We need to be mindful of lighting types, given the 24x7 operation running costs as well as the requirement for UPS and generator backup.

      We're steering towards LED or dimmable fluorescent for ambient lighting, with specific task-lights above each workstation.

      We've considered the different lighting scenes for daytime, night shifts etc. Will probably end up giving the staff control over lighting and let them fight amongst themselves.

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    14. Re:Natural light by minorproblem · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can get natural skylights now that use fibreoptics to transmit the light.

      http://www.skydome.com.au/products_parans_home.htm

    15. Re:Natural light by Cylix · · Score: 1

      Dimmable fluorescent never really worked for me in the past.

      I haven't looked into how natural LED lighting actually looks, but it's got to be a damn bit better then fluorescent.

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    16. Re:Natural light by lewko · · Score: 1

      Note to self: No Triffids in the control room.

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    17. Re:Natural light by Wiseleo · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a good idea.

      If you are investing in LED lighting, which is superior to CFLs, please be sure to also match your screens with LED backlighting. You want the highest CRI on your light sources. Sunlight color temperature is 5500K, incadescent is 3300K. The post about 4200K is spot-on.

      Dimmable light sources are a must.

      Oh, and consider screens that are color-correct. I have 2 monitors on my desk right now and only one of them is easy to calibrate for colors properly. 42" industrial panels for the video wall will probably be more cost-effective and easy to replace without mounting headaches as the standards are well-established now.

      I am designing a NOC as well, so I am looking into this as well.

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    18. Re:Natural light by the_other_chewey · · Score: 1

      The internet was designed so that it could withstand world war three, why people still building bunkers is beyond me.

      Because it never was. The internet's predecessor might have
      been a flat network with redundant links, but today's internet is
      topologically and even more so geographically highly centralized.

      If 10-20 of the world's most important IXPs are nuked (or just all
      their outside links damaged) the 'net will at least fragment, and
      leave some rather large regions without internet access at all.

    19. Re:Natural light by lewko · · Score: 1

      I think control rooms are a little archaeic and beyond that just plain dumb. "Let's put all the really important people in one place so that they can see each other when they talk to them because that's more important than business
      continuity

      Why on Earth do you think we haven't considered business continuity?

      Is there *any* business which doesn't tend to put large groups, if not all of their people in the same place for most of the time?

      Control rooms as a concept are a relic of the cold war and are as useful as the 27-volume encyclopedia set in my basement.

      You should really get out of your basement.

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    20. Re:Natural light by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      We've considered the different lighting scenes for daytime, night shifts etc. Will probably end up giving the staff control over lighting and let them fight amongst themselves.

      Did you include in your cost estimate the reduced productivity due to fighting for the right lighting?

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    21. Re:Natural light by Xest · · Score: 1

      Perhaps not suprisingly due to both evolving under the same sun, lights that make people feel happy and stay healthy work on the same wavelengths as lights that keep plants healthy to some extent- certainly use of the blue wavelengths is shared, although plants get no real benefit from the green wavelength whilst humans do.

      You don't need grow lights for plants (I grow cacti under normal fluorescent tubes in British winters without etiolation and plenty healthy enough), most tubes you find in offices are in fact not that great for humans OR plants.

      If you're trying to light an environment to keep staff happy and healthy, then emulating lighting that most closely mimics the wavelengths and levels of ambient brightness provided by the sun will not only keep employees feeling comfortable, but will allow you to grow plants healthily.

      Even if you are going for cheap lighting though there are still plants adapted well enough to grow in that instead.

      I fully agree with the GP, live plants are a very good thing to have in this kind of environment, fake plants just don't cut it.

    22. Re:Natural light by GeordieMac · · Score: 1

      --Why on Earth do you think we haven't considered business continuity?

      Fully considered? You haven't no. By co-locating everyone you are increasing the impact of otherwise small events.

      --Is there *any* business which doesn't tend to put large groups, if not all of their people in the same place for most of the time?

      Businesses which have proper risk management strategies. Most militaries and NGOs, organisations that regularly deal with risk

      --You should really get out of your basement.

      Zing. Nice ad hominem. Point to you. I'm cut to the quick... I'm off to find my encyclopedia, maybe it has an entry for boondoggle...

    23. Re:Natural light by zippthorne · · Score: 0, Troll

      Close. The internet was designed so that researchers could share data to plan world war three.

      Actually, probably just the first part. Although the researchers were funded through defense funds, so ostensibly they were working on things that might be useful should world war three occur.

      Anyway, there's no way to predict it would survive a disaster that big, and indeed even mere wind storms can knock it out over whole regions. But your plan of distributed authority is still not a bad one. They just need more communication forms than just "hope the phones work." And even then, only if their business plan contraindicates a disaster plan of "send employees home for a few days of unplanned vacation until the network is back up."

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    24. Re:Natural light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You said some valuable stuff, so we can't really mod you down, but this one is just plain stupid:

      The internet was designed so that it could withstand world war three

      I think we all know it couldn't. Not for a minute.

    25. Re:Natural light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I appreciate the kind euphemisms but we all know it's just a series of tubes.

    26. Re:Natural light by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      As others have mentioned, lighting is one of those things that is hard to fix properly if it's not done right the first time. A few tips:

      Especially since "secure" installations tend to be indoors and away from windows, natural or "natural-like" light is very important. If it's all on the same floor, skylights can supply much of that, even if the roof is some distance above. Someone mentioned fiber optics for skylights on a high roof, but skylights coupled with simple, highly reflective metalized tubes are almost as efficient, much cheaper, and supply more light overall.

      DO NOT skimp on the light. Movie and TV sets showing bright screens in darkened rooms are lit that way so that the screens grab the attention of viewers... not for ergonomic reasons. You also mentioned task lights. You don't want bright spotlights in low ambient light. That is hard on the eyes. The workplace should have a high level of ambient light, not just spots. Dim lighting is also correlated with injuries in the workplace... even offices. While some people say they prefer to have a dimly lit work area, the contrast between the bright screens and dim surroundings causes the eyes to try to adjust much too often, which is very straining. Also, spots tend to increase reflections and glare from the screens. Lighting should be indirect where possible.

      A brightly lit workplace and a "natural" mixture of light frequencies help to keep hormone levels and sleep cycles normal. Some people can actually suffer from what is basically Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD), even in the summer, if the workplace is not properly lit. Even those who say they prefer a dimly lit workstation may be affected but not know it. The result is an increase in health problems and downtime.

      On the other hand, as someone else mentioned, the large common displays should be at some distance from any workstation, and so can be in dimmer lighting to increase contrast.

      Fluorescent lights play hell with digital displays. Not electrically (although that is possible too), but because of the 60 Hz flicker. The refresh rate of most digital displays is 60Hz or a multiple of 60Hz, which contends with the flicker of the lights. 60Hz might be too fast to see either the screens or the lights flicker by themselves, but the two can get out of phase and cause a subtle, eye-straining interference. Incandescents, though power-hungry, have less flicker because it takes time for the filaments to heat up and cool down, which smooths out the light level. LEDs, at least those with a properly-filtered power supply, do not have a flicker problem either.

      Years ago when I was a systems manager I had to spend many thousands of dollars for (at the time) very high-end monitors and video cards for our CAD department, in order to get monitors of sufficient size that also had refresh rates both higher than and not a multiple of 60Hz. The people in CAD had been complaining about headaches. You could not see the flicker of the older monitors vs. the fluorescents directly, but sometimes you could glimpse it in your peripheral vision. As I say, subtle but actually very hard on the eyes.

      "Regulation" NTSC video has a frame rate of 29.97Hz. This is not an exact multiple of 60Hz but is close enough to cause phase flicker with fluorescents. It is very dependent on the type of display you are using to view it.

      Lighting aside, if your control room does not have windows, there should be easy access to a break room that does. At least 5 min. / hour should be spent away from close screens, preferably with a distant view on which to focus.

  11. Only one chance to get it right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And you came to Ask Slashdot? ABORT! ABORT! TOO LATE!!!! *boom*

  12. Water. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Include a water cooler somewhere. If it's a secure facility, you don't want staff popping out every five minutes for water.

    Dim lighting looks incredibly cool. It's also uncomfortable. Resist temptation.

    1. Re:Water. by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      The adjacent kitchen/breakout will have chilled water on tap. Ditto Coffee, so that's covered.

      In relation to lighting, a *lot* of ergonomic advice suggests that broadcast control rooms and other monitor-heavy environments should be dim light.

      However I agree it's uncomfortable and I suspect it's a personal preference. So we will probably just allow staff to control lighting levels themselves, rather than mandate them.

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  13. Some things you'll want to do by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Borrow some ideas from the utility control rooms I've been in. Everyone has and uses their own headsets, I might extend that to keyboards. Keeps people from passing the contagious thing of the week around a confined space when sharing monitoring stations.

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    1. Re:Some things you'll want to do by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      I would recommend having a 100% outside air economizer, distance viewing elements to reduce eye strain, and time-of-day lighting to keep body clock normal-- brightest at noon, can even create asubtle artificial east-west fade with wall washers.

    2. Re:Some things you'll want to do by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Borrow some ideas from the utility control rooms I've been in.

      Well now *that's* helpful.... ;)

    3. Re:Some things you'll want to do by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP. Thank you for your message.

      Personal headsets are arranged. Keyboards will be hard, but we are going to have alcohol-based hand sanitizer at the entrance to the room and adjacent to each workstation.

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    4. Re:Some things you'll want to do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One good way to fight viruses like the seasonal flu is to increase and keep the office air relatively moist. Viruses tend to stay virulent for a longer time in dry air. The charged dust particles around computer equipment tend to travel deeper in the lungs than regular dust and provide an effective vector for the pathogens. Moist air lessens this effect as well.

    5. Re:Some things you'll want to do by another+blockhead · · Score: 1

      As an alternative to headsets, have you considered directional speakers such as sound domes (http://www.browninnovations.com/sound_domes.html)?

  14. Control rooms at CERN by wuzzeb · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a blog post with some thoughts about the control room design at the LHC. Here is a picture of the CMS detector control room for comparison. You might also take a look at pictures of the CERN control room for some ideas.

    1. Re:Control rooms at CERN by PietjeJantje · · Score: 1

      No DataChairs ?..pah!

    2. Re:Control rooms at CERN by Idiomatick · · Score: 1

      Looking at other control rooms is helpful. This is what BP's crisis center may or may not look like: http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/100722/GAL-10Jul22-5223/media/PHO-10Jul22-239820.jpg

    3. Re:Control rooms at CERN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the naked stewardess on page 9 of the results (moderate safe search on).

    4. Re:Control rooms at CERN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Followed your link and saw my boss. And that on a Monday!

  15. USG Contractor? by gadzook33 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I sincerely hope your "client" is not the US Government. The number of contractors I have seen build "CSI" control rooms to try to impress their government counterparts is incredible. Typically these control rooms control very little, or at least, very little worthwhile. At any rate, I would give the advice: form follows function.

    1. Re:USG Contractor? by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      So you're saying, make it look like WarGames?

    2. Re:USG Contractor? by gadzook33 · · Score: 1

      If you mean the WOPR, then yes :)

  16. Doctor Spenser called by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  17. If there's one thing I know about bunkers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's that it is essential to have the ductwork accessible by anybody who wants to crawl in them. You can't leave that out, it's essential.

    Make sure to tell your HVAC guys that you want t

    1. Re:If there's one thing I know about bunkers... by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      We've discussed your idea with them.

      They have also pre-weakened one of the segments, so that a person crawling through the ductwork will fall through it, landing adjacent to armed hostage takers.

      Also, we have a greasing area such that the lunch lady can grease up the groundskeeper should he need to rescue any animals running through the ducting.

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    2. Re:If there's one thing I know about bunkers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, just make sure there's a crowbar in the cantine.

  18. Function over form for staff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've just spent a week in an Equinix facility which on first impression scored high on the wow factor. They used a lot of dark colors lit with red and blue; looks awesome but gave me horrific migraines which none of my usual drugs could help with. Very tiring after long periods and very disorientating, it was playing havoc with my internal clock.

  19. if you need to ask by Ubi_NL · · Score: 0, Troll

    If you need to ask slashdot you're in over your head

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    1. Re:if you need to ask by lewko · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am the OP. Thanks for your advice. You've saved us millions. No, billions.

      Now that you've established I am clueless, go away and read some of the genuinely insightful comments on this thread and you'll see precisely why I asked Slashdot. It's called canvassing a broad range of opinions. Even the world's best consultants/designers would have only designed a handful of these personally. I don't want to make any expensive mistakes and I am quite happy to consider the opinion of a low-ranking staff member earning a few bucks an hour sitting in these places before I subject our low-ranking staff to the same mistakes.

      And FYI, my consultants are reading this thread and loving it.

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    2. Re:if you need to ask by adolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Xybix. They make desks.

      Everyone seems to talk about all the benefits of standing, vs. sitting, or more importantly the ability to do either one, but nobody ever bothers to propose something that does both at the discretion of the operator.

      Xybix does both. Motorized desks that move up and down (desk surface and monitor platform independently), foot warmers (keeps people from fighting over the thermostat), air circulation, etc. I don't work for them, and I don't sell them, but I have worked at a few installations that have them and they're worth every penny (even if they are difficult to cable due to the moving-around nature of the thing). In my experience, they've been very able to meet custom demands, as well, and behave like a small build-to-order shop that happens to produce high-quality furniture that fits together properly as if it were one-size-fits-all (even though it's not).

      If I could afford it, I'd be sitting at a Xybix desk right now.

    3. Re:if you need to ask by lewko · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If I could afford it, I'd be sitting at a Xybix desk right now.

      Not standing?

      We've looked at motorized desks. The seem cute but having spoken to people who invested MASSIVE cash in them, their users seldom if ever adjust them. I asked their management for an opinion and they were adamant that they were a waste of money. Moreover, they've had a hard time maintaining a consistent look with various proprietary furniture that needs to be replaced over time and they suggested avoiding bespoke furniture wherever possible and keeping it simple.

      I am however considering having a standing workstation or two to achieve a similar aim, if an operator wants to stand upright to work. They can all hot-desk, so this isn't a big deal.

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    4. Re:if you need to ask by mikael_j · · Score: 1

      Another desk suggestion: Make sure that your desks are suitable to all users. I've worked in a few places where the desks worked great as long as you weren't taller than the guy who decided what desks to purchase but if you were 6'4" then you couldn't sit comfortably because your legs couldn't quite fit (supporting metal bar right in front of your knees, not noticeable to anyone shorter than 6' or so but incredibly uncomfortable to those of us who were taller since our knees kept pressing against it). There are other issues as well, e.g. some people like their desk at "lap level" which can be tricky if the supports under the desk surface are thick since you're forced to keep the desk at least 3" or so above your lap even though the actual desk surface is less than 1" thick...

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    5. Re:if you need to ask by tburkhol · · Score: 1

      Now that you've established I am clueless, go away and read some of the genuinely insightful comments on this thread and you'll see precisely why I asked Slashdot.

      In all fairness, your sig:

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      does not make you look like a control center expert.

    6. Re:if you need to ask by adolf · · Score: 1

      The seem cute but having spoken to people who invested MASSIVE cash in them, their users seldom if ever adjust them. I asked their management for an opinion and they were adamant that they were a waste of money.

      In my experience with them (law enforcement communication centers), folks are glued to them for the better part of 8 hours and don't fidget with them much -- if at all -- during that time.

      However, at shift change, the next person in pretty much always spends a few seconds adjusting the chair, and the desk, to suit. They seldom do raise things up to standing height (I've only ever seen them used like that a few times), but everyone seems to have a very clear preference as to what height their monitors, writing surface, keyboard, and mice are at. They'll then adjust the lighting and the airflow, and then get on with work.

      I dare say that these folks would be less comfortable with non-adjustable furniture, but perhaps being able to hot-desk would help a lot where it could be used (it really isn't an option in a small dispatch center).

    7. Re:if you need to ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to design security control rooms for a living. They ranged from back office affairs to full-on nuclear bunker arrangements with massive steel blast doors.
      If your consultants are only charging you $5k then get better consultants. Try Atkins.

      Here's one tip, you don't need a video wall. People can't concentrate on such a mess of information and the resolution/distance of most is way too bad for anything other than TV. Use a video matrix if you must display constant CCTV feeds.

    8. Re:if you need to ask by lewko · · Score: 1

      Okay, but chair, monitor, keyboard and mouse can already be adjusted for minimal outlay. The desk seems over the top. I am a big guy and I've never sat at an adjustable desk in my life. Somehow I've managed?

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  20. ergonomics by Zurk · · Score: 1

    1. lots of game servers with 3d cards on all desktops
    2. lots of reading material and dimmable multizone lighting with color temp controls in room and automatic color temp selection from warm to cold white following day/night cycles.
    3. tv + blu ray players
    4. large wallscreen with cool maps for impressing clients
    5. 2 machines on each desk - one for entertainment, the other for continuous display of net stats and ssh
    6. central server with helpdesk ticket display and network map with the ability to switch it to the wallscreen
    7. multiple zone climate control with controls on the wall easily accessible
    8. fridge with healthy snacks + microwave
    9. water dispenser
    10. cleaning staff for once/day cleaning.

    1. Re:ergonomics by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree with the idea of lighting that follows day/night cycles (unless your guys are working shifts). There's nothing that messes me up worse than going to work (in my windowless laboratory) in the morning and experiencing constant lighting until I walk outside and it's suddenly dark. It messes up my sleep cycles.

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  21. Make it Functional, But install a Cool-Mode Button by careysub · · Score: 5, Funny

    Numerous commentors here point out the error of using cool colored dim lighting for a facility where actual work gets done. But you can have your cake (or Cake, if you are using cool indie rock background music) and eat it too - just have a button that switches the lighting to "cool mode" whenever a visitor comes in. Meaningless but cool looking graphic "screen savers" could also pop up on the screens.

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  22. Environment factors by technix4beos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do ensure that it has nearby and adequate washroom facilities. Nothing worse than having to travel up a couple flights of stairs every time personnel has to take care of nature, know what I mean?

    Adequate lighting, and ventilation / heating / air conditioning is also something to consider. Nothing worse then working in winter with cold fingers, let me tell you.

    I've been NOC for just shy of 3 years now, and I can tell you the environment you work in plays a huge role in how comfortably you handle the workflow. Its nice to focus on the more technical bits such as equipment and infrastructure, monitors, etc, but do not forget that people have to comfortably be there for hours at a time. We do 12 hour shifts here, and the most important consideration would be the temperature and air quality, imho.

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    1. Re:Environment factors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Depending on the size of the staff and the length of shifts locker rooms might even be in order, a kitchen or kitchenette is reasonable walking distance is a must.

    2. Re:Environment factors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You also want to add ability for breaks away from the "action". A close but separate break room with peaceful decor and a door (to keep the control room out of the break room and keep the burnt popcorn smell out of the control room. Possibly a live news feed or some other active distraction when in the break room.

    3. Re:Environment factors by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 5, Informative

      I worked for a couple of months in doing NOC work, you pick up some basic must-haves really quickly in regards to comfort, I'd like to add them. Temperature and air quality is among the very top priorities for sure, here are a few other points.

      Get the best and most comfortable chairs you can find and then get the ones that are even better. People will be sitting in these 24/7, you need the best you can get or they'll get worn down in mere months, both chairs and people. Full range of adjustability is essential, as is full back and lumbar support. Look at the seats in taxis, cop cars, any sort of car where people do long shifts, look at long-haul trucks if you can. Taxis where I live are almost uniformly Mercedes-Benz or Volvo, partly because of their excellent seat ergonomics.

      Get people out of the chairs. I know this sounds silly considering you've just bought amazing chairs, but give people options. Exercise balls, kneeling chairs etc., let people mix it up so they aren't stuck in an ordinary sitting position for hours on end. Some basic exercise equipment is good too, doesn't have to be anything more fancy than some wall-mounted bars etc., just to let people stretch a bit.

      Quick access to toilets and kitchen(ette). This type of work demands as little downtime as possible. Make sure the kitchen has at least two microwave ovens, depending on the number of people who'll be working there, a good meal is essential to getting through a night shift and even the slight inconvenience of having to wait a bit longer can be amplified by being sleepy and in a job where you deal with very stressful situations on a daily basis. Night shifts have been shown to have a correlation with heart disease and possibly cancer. Don't make people wait too for their food as well :-) The place where I worked had lots of people doing 9-5 jobs as well and the cafeteria always kept well-stocked vending machines with sandwiches and the hot dish of the day for the night shifters. It was highly appreciated.

      Speaking of the kitchen, get really good coffee. No scratch that, get great coffee and reliable high-capacity coffee makers. These people will suck down black coffee like you wouldn't believe. Keep the fridge(s) well-stocked with ice-cold Coke (or whatever caffeinated soft drink they like) for the non-coffee drinkers.

      I cannot stress this enough: Have fresh fruit available at all times. This was an absolutely life saver for me. You haven't had a tasty apple until you've bitten into a fresh, ripe Golden Delicious at 4:30 in the morning after a long nights stressful work. Keeps people from gorging on chips and other unhealthy snack foods as well.

      Lastly, let people have their distractions. We used fancy multi-monitor setups where we could put just about any system we monitored on whichever monitor we wanted, very slick. I can't remember what they called it, but it seemed to work pretty well. My point is that the universal setup seemed to be one monitor for desktop stuff, one for TV (most people had 24/7 news on) and the rest for monitoring etc.. The TV feed was brilliant, during the downtime you could catch up on the news and so on, it helped you get through the boring parts of a night shift.

      I'm sure I've forgotten a lot of stuff, but these things stood out in my mind as the most important.

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    4. Re:Environment factors by Tacticus.v1 · · Score: 1

      ^^ this guy speaks the truth

      There was nothing i dreaded more than the smell on my skin after getting off work (the smoke from the casino downstairs came up without any issue)

    5. Re:Environment factors by hendrikboom · · Score: 1

      And giver the amount of money I suspect you're putting into the equipment, make the vending machines *free*. It'll really improve morale. Their main function is to keep the food cool so it won't spoil. Come to think of it, company-stocked refrigerators would be fine, too. Why vend?

    6. Re:Environment factors by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      Thanks for some great ideas.

      We aim to have a number of wheelchair-users as staff, so the facility is totally accessible. For those who do need to get up and stretch, we'll have anti-RSI software which forces them to leave the workstation occasionally (with an override of course).

      I'm glad you've endorsed fruit. As I mentioned in an earlier comment here, we want to provide food, snacks, however are aware that it's a fairly sedentary role and don't want our staff to pack on the kilos.

      We will also have a 'play hard' computer/TV for (career appropriate) recreational use.

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    7. Re:Environment factors by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you're on the right path, be sure to post a follow-up article once you get everything up and running, I'd love to see how it turns out :-)

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    8. Re:Environment factors by fat_mike · · Score: 3, Interesting

      To add to your kitchen comments make sure that all the outlets are at least waist high. Also (because the electrician won't care) I would put at the maximum two outlets per circuit and make sure your microwaves are on separate circuits. If possible have your kitchen circuit box separate from anything else. You won't believe the things people will want to buy for the kitchen:

      Ice Tea Maker
      Popcorn Popper
      Crock pots
      Their "special" espresso maker
      Food processor
      Juicer
      Deep fryer
      Hot plates
      Toaster ovens
      Ice cream makers

      I've found that the kitchen is the biggest failure point electricity wise. The kitchen in a business (and the bathroom) are the places that feel most "normal" to people. They tend to treat them like the one at home.

      Also, make sure your workstations have the electrical capability to handle:

      Personal heaters
      Electric blankets
      Coffee warmers
      All manner of fans, clocks, phone chargers, iPod chargers, and the weirdest thing you can think of sold on QVC or infommercials.

      Yes, it seems silly and unprofessional but in the real world these things do happen and its the little creature comforts that keep people happy.

    9. Re:Environment factors by twakar · · Score: 1

      I like your comments. They are valid and well thought out. I would like to add one thing though. Even though we are societys' pariah right now, we are not yet criminals. Please consider a comfortable place for the smokers to go. Of course this will depend on local laws, but some reasonable accommodation can be made I'm sure.

      Thanks,

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    10. Re:Environment factors by lewko · · Score: 1

      Hey, I'm all for having a nice work environment and an area to relax. However I can safely say that anyone bringing a deep fryer or an ice cream maker from home into work, will be taking all of their belongings home at the end of the day. Know what I'm saying?

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    11. Re:Environment factors by glatiak · · Score: 1

      Human factors are critical for effective staff performance. One other low tech item to not forget is to have plenty of whiteboards available. The high tech variety with automagic copy is very cool but your basic panel and markers will do it. Everything breaks -- especially in the control center. It is helpful to have some place to keep track of things when the power goes out or an ill-timed lighting strike fries everything. And this bunker is above the 100 year flood line, yes?

    12. Re:Environment factors by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Absolutely, whiteboards are essential for communicating complex relations.

      I don't even do NOC stuff anymore, be the office I share with 4 other people has every available wall covered in whiteboards. We use them to map out system architectures, networks, just about anything you can interconnect with lines, shared to-do lists are also very nice to have.

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  23. Comfort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comfort, comfort, comfort...

    Proper chairs. Set up at the proper height, then adjust all the screens from there.

    Good lights. Stay away from fluorescent, anything that flickers. Don't make it to harsh, whatever it is. Nice and soft.

    Plants would be good. Things that make the experience not painful after the 6th hour.

  24. Get help from pros by Catbus · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would contract with a design/build firm that specializes in these facilities. You don't want to do this by the seat of your pants relying on Slashdot advice.

    1. Re:Get help from pros by omglolbah · · Score: 1

      Indeed.

      Most oil companies for instance spend quite a lot of money to do it right. And they rarely if ever do it themselves. They come up with requirements and work with a company that does control room design. Having spent some time in a brand new control room for an offshore installation in Norway I can say that all the little details matter. Do not try to do it yourself. Get someone with experience. It is worth the money.

    2. Re:Get help from pros by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I've seen two major design failures in control rooms just by walking into them.
      One was in a fertilizer works made from assorted imported bits of plants of various ages that leaked dangerous amounts of ammonia at times. It had three impressive walls of lights and annoying buzzers, and it would light up like a christmas tree when things were a bit high or low but well within operating parameters, but then wouldn't do much different when things were going seriously wrong.
      Another was in a power station with screens showing vast amount of detail and being able to zoom in and out - thus hiding the information that the flame had gone out in a boiler. When more coal was added the dust re-ignited, which resulted in a "boiler sneeze" and the square boiler was then round in shape with a lot of damaged wall.

    3. Re:Get help from pros by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. Or you're likely to end up with something akin to an unfinished basement with an old couch, a couple of iPads and an OpenSolaris server in the corner.

    4. Re:Get help from pros by GrumblyStuff · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding?!

      Most of us have graduated from forts of blankets and chairs and couch cushions to full on underground lairs (inourparentsbasements) where we've resided in for months at a time.

      C'mon, who knows better than us?

    5. Re:Get help from pros by omglolbah · · Score: 1

      Those sound more like seriously bad alarm handling than control room design.

      Almost everyone group it together, but they are distinct if you think about it.

    6. Re:Get help from pros by lewko · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am the OP.

      We asked a specialist company. They charged $5k and said "ask Slashdot".

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    7. Re:Get help from pros by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here is our answer: Ask an expert

      now where is our $5k?

    8. Re:Get help from pros by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're doing it wrong. Get your money back from those guys and find someone with real expertise.

    9. Re:Get help from pros by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you didn't pay.

  25. Careful What You Wish For by archmcd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My company invested millions of dollars into a central monitoring facility, with a large video wall driven by Crestron equipment. The idea was the video wall could display news/weather alongside alarms/outages in real time, with geographic mapping capabilities. Workstations were quad displays on adjustable motorized desks which sat atop a raised platform for simple network runs. A large executive "war room" style conference room was built with a glass wall overlooking the platform and video wall believed to be useful in the event of some catastrophic failure. All other staff sat in cubicles surrounding the platform with glass cube walls anywhere that would otherwise obstruct the view of the platform/video wall. A secure mantrap was put in place to restrict access to the facility. Dedicated bathrooms were installed with showers in the monitoring area in case critical staff were quarantined for extended periods of time.

    It was impressive when it was built, but within a couple years, the video wall has been dismantled and parts sold off due to its impracticality. The right software was never found to perform the type of "geographic" monitoring conceived, partly due to bureaucracy. Network redundancy was overlooked, which made the monitoring facility itself non-functional during an outage. The facility lacked appropriate backup generators and UPS to keep the facility running during a thunderstorm. The platform desks required too much real estate and allowed no room for growth, so they have been replaced by cubicles. The secure mantrap was an inconvenience for upper management, so the inner door was disabled, defeating the mantrap. The quad displays ironically obstructed the view of the video wall when it was still in place, and did not fit in the cubicles when they were installed, so these were reduced to 2. All critical staff were sent home to telecommute because they took up too much real-estate required for day-to-day operations, and it made more sense to not have critical staff in a single central location anyway.

    The point is, don't get too caught up in building 'CTU' from 24. The right monitoring software platform makes all the difference, as does intelligent network redundancy, telephony and backup power.

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    1. Re:Careful What You Wish For by hendrikboom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe the real lesson here is: keep it all flexible.

    2. Re:Careful What You Wish For by vlm · · Score: 1

      Did we work together? If so, you'd know me by initials... Trust me, every "operations center" OC NOC NMC built in the last 30 years (And I've worked in several) have had all the cliche bullet points you list and pretty much the same failures.

      The most operationally successful (as opposed to marketing successful) "NOC" I ever worked in, was a (small) cube farm with six foot tall walls so we could quietly concentrate when necessary, yet we had a weird aisle configuration so when we needed to collaborate we were mere seconds apart. Also crucial was each cube had a bookcase which we absolutely stuffed with manuals, Oreilly books, software cd/dvds, and a "visitor chair" for collaboration and most importantly beyond all else we each had like two or three complete and separate computer systems to watch things and experiment. Also comfy chairs matter more than a butterfly manager could ever understand.

      The second most operationally successful NOC I worked in, could be completely operated by design from home over a VPN. Having a nuclear bomb proof bunker is irrelevant when thunderstorms fill my street with tree branches or we get "the blizard of the century" over a foot of snow in 12 hours. In both scenarios, it was BAU for me to log in over the VPN at home (And if I had lost power/connectivity we had deals to visit coworkers nearby houses as opposed to HQ 20 miles away, and open vouchers at hotels with inet access). Its hard to convince upper management to pay for both work at home gear and a giant unusable video wall.

      A final comment is one place I worked at invested about a quarter of a million into the useless video wall, and then the thousand dollar bulbs popped like popcorn to the tune of about 3 FTE per year. In other words we could have paid for 3 more full time staff if we didn't have a useless wall... That wall was a morale poison during each short term crisis, but an absolute morale killer during layoffs. Eventually, as that company circled the drain, they were paying more money for the useless wall, than the staff to watch it. It was useless because it was visually stunning on a large scale, but unreadable for the employees, and pointless because they needed to run the exact same SW on their desks to do the job anyway.

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    3. Re:Careful What You Wish For by sys_mast · · Score: 1

      i'll second the power network statement. one noc I watch over has dual generators going to dual building ups, then on the desktop a cool switch that makes the pc use dual power. Servers of course have dual power built in. network is redundant as possible. Dual supervisor at the access layer and dual chassies above the access layer.

      Beyond that I'll also agree that the software is critical, and make sure someone will be around too continue to update and support the software.

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    4. Re:Careful What You Wish For by raind · · Score: 1

      Amen, after much work we moved into a new building without any security in place, the ironic thing was some thieves throw a large rock through the VP's window and only stole his new flat screen tv, didn't even take small platform pc's or anything else. Lucky for me they must have been scared, would have not been a good day. er all are encrypted thieves.

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  26. For Entertainment, Make Sure You've Got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Medal Of Honor to give your control room zombies a break from the tedium of
    monitoring the proletariat.

    Yours In Minsk,
    K. Trout

    1. Re:For Entertainment, Make Sure You've Got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This video contains content from FOX News Network, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

      Seriously, man, FUCK copyright.

  27. Some experience by casavet · · Score: 2, Informative

    See http://www.tbcconsoles.com for a few ideas.
    Chairs - Haven't found anything to beat the Herman Miller Aeron yet.
    If you're placing PC's in the control room, beware of heating and cooling requirements. Most common mistake I've seen.
    Second most common mistake, way over-spec'ing the AV system for the videowall. Keep it modest, in keeping with your actual requirements and conop, with room to grow.
    I like the single tier monitor approach. Get monitors above other monitors makes for an ergonomically uncomfortable experience.
    Do not, under any circumstances, cheap out on the monitors. Buy decent. Voice of experience here, cheap has the potential to kill your project dead

    1. Re:Some experience by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      We like the Aeron too.

      See: http://www.hiperwall.com/Technology.aspx which will allow us to replace components over time.

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  28. Re:Fuck you by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

    Completely unbelievable troll. I don't own a dog.

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  29. Its going to all be for show. by vlm · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lastly, we will be showing it to our clients

    In other words its going to all be for show.

    Big projected screens showing something management finds important to brag about but the employees will never glance at.

    All individuality quashed, no pics of the family etc.

    My advice, in all honesty, is to build two. One that actually works, and one that is a star trek mock up. Whenever they did marketing picture shows they hired college age models to "staff" our network management center anyway, so non-operational equipment is not exactly a problem for the models to pose with.

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    1. Re:Its going to all be for show. by turbidostato · · Score: 1

      "My advice, in all honesty, is to build two. One that actually works, and one that is a star trek mock up."

      That's not even your advice but one I remember seriously pushed within the Rainbow Series (you know, the Orange Book et al). It was not for a NOC but for a datacenter, but it makes no difference: no matter your security policies, your boss is your boss and he will want to show his power to some important visitors. So use your decomissioned equipment to build a mock up; incidentally since computers are nothing but going smaller and more powerful all the time, ancient equipment has more of a cool factor for the unsavvy than new one (don't forget tape reels and the machine that goes ping!).

    2. Re:Its going to all be for show. by Jason+Kimball · · Score: 1

      If you want something really flashy, you could install one of these high resolution walls for your video wall:

      http://vis.ucsd.edu/~cglx/

      disclaimer: I am affiliated with this group

    3. Re:Its going to all be for show. by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      I have said all along, that the *primary* objective is the staff, ergonomics and the mission.

      Showing off is a nice aim, but a secondary one. However, if I can combine the two, that's terrific.

      In relation to individuality etc. it's not a big issue as the operators are hot-desking anyway.

      Also, we only ever hire attractive staff.

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    4. Re:Its going to all be for show. by vlm · · Score: 1

      Showing off is a nice aim, but a secondary one. However, if I can combine the two, that's terrific.

      I guess you'll have the first operations center in the history of mankind run that way. For a big splash of cold water in the face ask your sales and marketing people what they're thinking and then tell your boss you're making all the decisions from the point of view of a cost center (you guys) as opposed to revenue generation (sales)

      In relation to individuality etc. it's not a big issue as the operators are hot-desking anyway.

      Ewww, yuck. That usually means packing them in like sardines and creating a nice loud impossible to concentrate environment. Also people coughing all over the keyboards and mice and getting each other sick. Yuck, just yuck. Talk about making the employees feel bad by lowering their status, everyone from the janitor up "has their own place" but only your employees are lowly enough to have to hot desk. Yuck, just yuck. Trust a guy who has worked in operations centers for a couple decades, you're making a huge mistake there. Cubes might suck compared to offices, but the only thing worse than cubes is open plan.

      Please, at least from a lice standpoint, don't make them share cordless phone headsets.

      Also, we only ever hire attractive staff.

      Where do I send my resume?

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    5. Re:Its going to all be for show. by lewko · · Score: 1

      I guess you'll have the first operations center in the history of mankind run that way. For a big splash of cold water in the face ask your sales and marketing people what they're thinking and then tell your boss you're making all the decisions from the point of view of a cost center (you guys) as opposed to revenue generation (sales)

      You're about to shit bricks, but I *am* sales and marketing.

      In relation to individuality etc. it's not a big issue as the operators are hot-desking anyway.

      Ewww, yuck. That usually means packing them in like sardines and creating a nice loud impossible to concentrate environment. Also people coughing all over the keyboards and mice and getting each other sick. Yuck, just yuck. Talk about making the employees feel bad by lowering their status, everyone from the janitor up "has their own place" but only your employees are lowly enough to have to hot desk. Yuck, just yuck. Trust a guy who has worked in operations centers for a couple decades, you're making a huge mistake there.

      Most of them will effectively be call-centre operators and it is largely drone work. Whilst I agree with you in principle, we don't have the space to have desks being unused 2/3rds of the time. Might be a different story for higher species.

      Please, at least from a lice standpoint, don't make them share cordless phone headsets.

      Oh don't worry. I was thinking of making them share in-ear earpieces :-)

      Seriously, I'm a hygiene freak and you took the words right out of my mouth. Also rather unhygienic.

      Also, we only ever hire attractive staff.

      Where do I send my resume?

      Let's start with your measurements.

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  30. What by Ryanrule · · Score: 1, Insightful

    the fuck?

  31. difficult choice by DMoylan · · Score: 1

    windowless bunker or happy place. choose one.

  32. Design for changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously the most obivous thing that stroke me in that question was that you need to get it right. Why ? Try to use items that can be relocated or used in different ways without spending a fortune. After 1 year of operation they will know what they want different.
    And of course make it a nice place to be in.

  33. Plan for fast depreciation by steveha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to know someone who had worked for an alarm monitoring company. She said the chairs and other furniture were used 24 hours a day, yet the accountants were depreciating them like ordinary office furniture. As a result, the furniture was not replaced often enough and was falling apart and uncomfortable. Make sure to plan on fast depreciation for your furniture.

    steveha

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    1. Re:Plan for fast depreciation by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      She said the chairs and other furniture were used 24 hours a day, yet the accountants were depreciating them like ordinary office furniture. As a result, the furniture was not replaced often enough and was falling apart and uncomfortable.

      Unfortunately, it's the IRS that determines how fast you can depreciate things.

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  34. Huh? by Tigersmind · · Score: 1


    "secure windowless bunker"
    "many hours at a time".
    "'happy' place"
    "ergonomically sound"
    "would be nice if it was 'cool'"

    Dont do drugs folks.

    1. Re:Huh? by vlm · · Score: 1

      You forgot the most conflicting goal:

      "we will be showing it to our clients"

      The happiest secure windowless bunker I ever saw (but unfortunately did not work in) was a graphics arts studio/preprint process area where, true, there were no windows, long shifts, and tedious detail oriented work, BUT, BUT this was never shown to anyone outside the company so it was frankly operated something like a rave with moderately loud music and very casual dress code and extremely personalized decor. Everyone working there loved it. No one has ever complained about not having enough windows at a rave (or pretty much any party).

      It had no windows, something about being in a run down industrial slum, also they used special $25K color calibrated monitors that supposedly in dim lighting displayed the EXACT same colors as the industrial printing press would output. Not just kind of close, but picky woman 150 different shades of red certified by the printing press manufacturer exact. At least one of the monitors had a strange lightpen like device that you'd stick to the screen to automatically tune the monitor colors to perfection, like as the phosphor slowly faded from day to day.

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  35. Re:Make it Functional, But install a Cool-Mode But by techno-vampire · · Score: 1
    Meaningless but cool looking graphic "screen savers" could also pop up on the screens.

    No matter what you do, the people working there are going to be spending at least a little time looking at things that aren't work related, especially on breaks. Make sure there's a "boss key" that flips things back to something that at least looks work related, so they can look busy when visitors come in. Yes, that includes their own managers, but so what? Presumably there's a way to monitor what they're doing, and if they need the boss key when they're not on break, they'll get busted sooner or later, but it's better if you don't have to explain to J. Random guest that it's OK for them to be checking out Slashdot because they're off-duty at the moment.

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  36. Much harder than it looks in the movies by petrilli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, a couple things to think about:

    1. How much money do you really have? Lots of people think they have money, but run out when it comes to all the details.
    2. Do you want flash, or functionality? The two are sometimes complementary, but often one trumps the other.
    3. How many people will staff? What's the schedule? This helps you figure out workstation configurations.
    4. Are you putting multiple tiers in the same room? This is "best practice" if you do it right.
    5. Are you handling customer calls directly? Do you deal with customers?

    Basically, you need to figure out a lot of goals. A true "global" NOC can cost $50M easily for a telecom or comparable organization.

    I've been a big fan of Barco for large projectors, and their IP-based solution is quite powerful. Recently, I rolled out a "public safety" SOC (security operations center) with 8 SXGA+ rear-projection displays. The largest I've worked on was 40+ of that style of display. Your garden-variety projector isn't cut out to handle this kind of duty-cycle. They're not cheap, but they're designed to operate 24x7x365, and many models have multiple lamps, etc. so that you can service them while they're online. So here's a few more things to think about:

    * What goes on the "big screen" has to be useful. It must be grokable in a very short period of time. If you can't look at it for 2 seconds and get a good idea of what's going on, it's too complicated.
    * Multiple displays per operations person
    * Operational "graphs" that show overall statistics that matter to the people working, not to management.
    * Good task lighting. Good lighting period is everything. Pay a real designer to do this.
    * Good seating. We have let operations people pick chairs that fit their needs. Expect to spend $800-1k/person on seating.
    * Sound deadening/management. NOCs get loud, and managing the acoustics is important to make sure that people can "think" and they can interact with one another.
    * Ticketing is everything. Look at systems that are available commercially and for free. Consider writing your own if needed. If the system is streamlined to your own business, it will always be an impediment to getting the job done, which means people won't use it. If they don't use it, lots of knowledge is lost and post-mortems are more difficult.

    Also, a few things that seem superfluous, but ended up being critical in some places I've worked (not all these were at the same place):

    * Virtualized desktops (think RDP, X11, etc.) so that people can move and maintain their setup
    * Color-shifting lighting to compensate for normal rhythms of people on weird shifts. Turns out green is effective after lunch at helping people maintain focus. This isn't cheap, but it sure does have a big impact.
    * Keep your customers OUT OF THE NOC. A glass wall into the NOC is fine, but actually letting them in is distracting, and depending, can come with legal issues around privacy, HIPAA, etc. Best to keep them at a distance.
    * Before you let customers see the NOC, you warn people. We had a blinking lighting strip under the displays that was linked into the Crestron system so that you couldn't flip the LCD-glass for 10 seconds to give NOC operators a warning. You don't want customers seeing people picking their nose. :)

    Finally, as nice as good facilities are, if you don't have the process and people, it's useless. People people people people. Good people create good processes. Promote from within, and develop a strategy to give people a career path. Otherwise, you'll burn people out, and get huge turnover. That sucks for everyone.

    1. Re:Much harder than it looks in the movies by petrilli · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh a few more thoughts:

      1. Buy high end task furniture (Haworth, Herman-Miller, etc.) but buy it "used". It's 1/2 or less the price, and often you can get the used high-end stuff for less than commodity new.
      2. Get a telephone system that doesn't suck. This is harder than you might think. Today, I'd build something with Asterix/VOIP integrated with a customer database to do some real-time CTI. In the past, I've used Aspect successfully as well. Cisco's VOIP gear is nice, but overpriced.
      3. Everyone gets their own . Whether it be a headset, keyboard, etc. Trust me, it makes sense.
      4. Lockers outside the NOC for staff. Make them nice, tall and big, and nobody shares.
      5. Plan for actual breaks from operations. Nobody can stare at a computer screen that many hours and stay alert.

      There's a million more details.

    2. Re:Much harder than it looks in the movies by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      Thanks for some great feedback.

      In relation to visitors, they will be few and far between. However all people (including staff and visitors) are admitted to the room by people within it. So they will know when visitors are approaching. Unfortunately they will also know when the boss is coming! That way they can flick back from the Simpsons to CNN.

      We are very process driven, however a lot of that stuff can be changed and continually improved whereas the capital fitout is a case of getting it right first time.

      Have you got any good references for lighting in these environments? We're getting a lot of conflicting advice and it would be good to get (yet) more.

      Also, for video wall, check out http://www.hiperwall.com/Technology.aspx which we think is going to give Barco a real run for their money.

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    3. Re:Much harder than it looks in the movies by lewko · · Score: 1

      There's a million more details.

      I'll wait.

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    4. Re:Much harder than it looks in the movies by Cylix · · Score: 1

      Barco runs on military dollars so it's never going to be price competitive.

      I think the video wall is a terrifically awful idea. Every noc I have worked in or near generally has one and typically no one actually uses it.

      The last thing I actually want to do is rely on employees to be alarms. They are expensive and unreliable as logic circuits. While they can do some pretty good fuzzy analysis there are times when things which have hard rules for alarms are generally left to the software.

      As such, when a major problem happens it is usually identified first by some automated software. When interested parties want to evaluate all the pretty graphs they generally log onto the monitoring portal or a quick link goes out to all those involved. Because there are generally many individuals who are conferencing into the event we do not rely on the video wall to provide the source material. Instead, individuals on the bridge are either told or added to the loop for materials going to those involved in the emergent activity. This is generally handled by the bridge resource managers and not the call/event leader.

      What we do use the video wall for is generally presentations for change management. A project would have actually worked and costed a great deal less.

      In cases of non-emergent behavior such as video surveillance the same techniques apply based on the application. While there are hot feeds ongoing there are typically motion alarms which highlight key areas. Again, whatever device the video wall is supposed to serve will usually be better served by allowing individuals to access the resource and ensuring there are capabilities to direct users to such resources.

      This setup works well provided there are enough individuals available to orchestrate the call, but then again where I typically see the need for this is in large scale multi-million dollar entities. Even in the smaller org I am with now we have a smaller scaled down version of what I have described.

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    5. Re:Much harder than it looks in the movies by vlm · · Score: 2, Informative

      4. Are you putting multiple tiers in the same room? This is "best practice" if you do it right.

      Horrible idea. I encourage all my competitors to implement that idea as fast as possible.

      You ever actually work in a NOC? I have, for decades.

      You ever watched "Office Space" with the scene where the guy is utterly unable to concentrate because his cube is next to the receptionists cube "Welcome to innitech, please hold ... Welcome to innitech, please hold .. Welcome to innitech, please hold". Horrible awful idea. Good if you are my competitor, or if you intentionally are trying to destroy your own productivity so as to heroically rescue it later. Otherwise a pretty bad idea.

      Promote from within, and develop a strategy to give people a career path.

      Now we're in daydream mode, that would be the first NOC I've ever even heard of with that.

      Do you want flash, or functionality? The two are sometimes complementary,

      Sometimes? Sometimes? I'm not trying to be excessively harsh, but only someone with no NOC experience beyond watching TV could make that major and fundamental of an oversight.

      It must be grokable in a very short period of time. If you can't look at it for 2 seconds and get a good idea of what's going on, it's too complicated.

      Again, newbie mode here. Even 1st level retail customer service takes longer to figure out what problem is. When you REALLY need the big screen, as opposed to using it as a fashion statement, is when the MPLD network routing protocol is not converging after three hours and a team of ten local engineers, three field techs, and half the company at Cisco can't figure out why. Simple enough for the drooling salespeople to explain to customers whom know nothing about NOCs using short one syllable words and simple sentence structure is a marketing requirement not a technical / operational requirement.

      Good task lighting. Good lighting period is everything. Pay a real designer to do this.

      Personalize the chairs but not the lighting? Again newbie error. Best NOCs I've seen over a couple decades go for dim lighting to keep reflections / glare off the screens. Also a good excuse for no windows.

      I see you forgot temperature management? Worst design I ever worked in had stadium seating, and either the HVAC blew air in your eyes which makes them water like hell after a couple hours, or we wore sunglasses which gave marketing/sales an absolute cow, or didn't blow air around so people at the lower seats were freezing while the top seats were sweating. Which is an epic fail, but not quite as bad as the place I worked at that had such good mantraps and powerful UPS/generators that when the power failed, equipment started failing due to lack of air conditioning within 30 minutes and people started failing (fainting, overheated) within an hour. Almost as bad as the "24 hour" NOC I experienced that took months to get the HVAC guys to turn on the ventilation during 2nd and 3rd shift (gotta be green, ya know). Then there's the place I set the thermostat to 73 and pried the dial off and dared anyone to make me reinstall it (and no one did) because clowns would set it to 85 when they personally felt cool and 60 when they personally felt warm, and the rest of us suffered. There is always at least one clown like that in any group of more than 5 people, so frankly you need to eliminate thermostats, or mount them but don't hook them up so clowns can work out their frustrations by adjusting a thermostat that does nothing.

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    6. Re:Much harder than it looks in the movies by vlm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      4. Lockers outside the NOC for staff. Make them nice, tall and big, and nobody shares.

      A locker-room with showers, connected to a workout room with treadmills and stuff, is almost a requirement for shift work. Nothing eliminates the "mid shift snoozies" like 5 minutes on the treadie. Or a semi-serious workout in place of lunch.

      My advice is no webcams, maybe even no security cams. Guys don't care, but the women found it extremely creepy that some dirt bag was watching them stretch and bounce around, so they either complained or refused to use the facility. Now a glass wall, where they can see you, but you can see them, is a perfectly adequate non-creepy substitute if you're worried about people collapsing.

      Speaking of cams, for all the time I've worked, women have complained about working 2nd or 3rd shift and parking in an empty pitch black parking lot. Come on guys, how much would it cost to light the freaking thing and stick a camera out there? Or have the architect design it so the security guard at his desk can directly look out the window at the "NOC" parking lot? I would think that from a discriminatory legal standpoint, intentionally designing a hostile work environment for women or an environment that makes the company liable for creating an unsafe work environment for women is probably a legal risk that is Oh So Cheap to fix that at the design phase and oh so expensive to settle, even out of court, when something very bad happens to one of your female employees in the parking lot...

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    7. Re:Much harder than it looks in the movies by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 0, Troll

      And what do male employees get? Zilch. What the hell can happen to a woman that can't reasonably happen to a man? Robbery, murder, even rape.

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    8. Re:Much harder than it looks in the movies by lewko · · Score: 1

      We've built a couple of internal parking spots for precisely that reason.

      Also, the boss gets the second best parking spot. The best spot is signposted "Reserved for Employee of the Month".

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  37. Not my area by Anrego · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But my first somewhat obvious thought would be to build a very detailed list of what has to happen in the room, then use that to drive your design.

    Positioning of people I would also imagine is quite important.. which groups of users need to communicate with each other.. who will be using the video wall.. who is going to be making the most noise (is someone going to be on the phone every 10 minutes.. if so a separate sound proof cage might be in order)

    Things like white boards might also be a good idea. For all the high tech collaboration solutions out there, I've found nothing beats a whiteboard for figuring something out or just tracking status of a short term issue.

    I'd also watch the cool factor stuff. A lot of the stuff that looks really neat on TV actually sucks in real life. Moody blue lighting for instance is depressing and hard on the eyes. Maybe you could have some kind of "holywood mode" switch or something for when people are being toured through.. though that is a little extreme.

    Finally I'd say good quality monitors and the most comfortable chairs that the budget allows.

    1. Re:Not my area by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Things like white boards might also be a good idea. For all the high tech collaboration solutions out there, I've found nothing beats a whiteboard for figuring something out or just tracking status of a short term issue.

      Black-boards beat white-boards. White-board markers easily fail to work, chalk never does. Black-boards are a little harder to clean, but window-washing equipment does it nicely.

    2. Re:Not my area by lewko · · Score: 1

      I'd also watch the cool factor stuff. A lot of the stuff that looks really neat on TV actually sucks in real life.

      We know.

      Glass and chrome are the best example.

      Also, on TV they only have to pay for the bits facing the camera. The rest is all plywood set design. Money is an issue.

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    3. Re:Not my area by vlm · · Score: 1

      I've found nothing beats a whiteboard for figuring something out or just tracking status of a short term issue.

      I suppose it depends a lot on the industry, but in the telecom world at multiple NOCs etc, whiteboards usually get used more to do temporary patches, than in problem isolation or status tracking.

      Kind of like, well, this card/fiber/server is dead, so we'll temporarily set up #1 over there, and #2 goes there, and #3 on that one,hmm #4 is just SOL, or maybe we can move #1 to this in order to free up space for #4 and #5, etc, etc, etc... Eventually the diagram looks good enough for the team to implement it and then we go go go. Unless the whiteboard is not installed in the NOC, in which case we waste valuable downtime (mis-)copying it all to paper and walking back to work.

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    4. Re:Not my area by vlm · · Score: 1

      Also, on TV they only have to pay for the bits facing the camera. The rest is all plywood set design. Money is an issue.

      Trust me, at the marketing-designed NOCs I've worked at, they don't even waste paint on the parts not visible from "the window", much less plywood. The angles of view are a little bit bigger than a TV camera, but not much.

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  38. Great Hazards by b4upoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In such a situation the greatest hazard will probably be from your own company executives. Establish a great monitoring process and it is carved in granite that some executive will add tasks that take attention away from the primary task. Reports leap to mind.
                        The second hazard will be from employees that man the monitoring station. They can become disgruntled or even be paid to do foul deeds. Good encrypted backups kept off site may help as will a monitor that watches the people that man the station.
                        It may help if you disallow electronic gizmos of all types from being brought to work in that monitoring station. Also tools that could open a computer case and install a USB card make it clear that you need to have absolute control of all items brought into the room.
                        Beyond those factors have you considered Faraday shielding?

    1. Re: Great Hazards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to think that reports were useless and secondary to the primary task. But when you all-knowing nerds start screwing up and costing money the boss needs to know WHY so s/he can fix it. So rather than leaving an executive add the monitoring and reports later... figure out how to build it into the system.

      It's just another part of the monitoring process, anyway.

      Nerd.

  39. Treadmill Desks by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm serious. If people are going to be there for long periods of time, they should get a little exercise.
    I'm not talking about running, just a leisurely ~1mph walk.
    Standing and walking are probably the absolute best options for maintaining good ergonomics.

    The office furniture company Steelcase makes one.

    I'm not saying to ban chairs, keep them as backup and for people who physically can't stand for extended periods of time.

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    1. Re:Treadmill Desks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe, you're out of your mind.

  40. From my experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    From my experience from working in the control room of a nuclear plant there are a couple of design elements that make life easier. First, any controls and monitors should be separated by an aisle where you have desks and computers. Additionally, if you have operators and supervisors in the same room, a tiered design is helpful. Think of it sort of like a semi-circle, with the controls and monitors at the lowest level, the operators desks and workstations at a higher level, and the supervisors in the back. This allows people to come into the control room to talk to the supervisors without bothering the operators, while the supervisors can still see what is going on. If a casualty happens then the operators will descend to the bottom aisle by the controls and the supervisors will descend to watch the operators and read the procedures. Management can then come in and observe from the level the supervisors previously were.

    Second, it is useful to have mimic boards for complicated systems. This means you have diagrams connecting electrical busses and breakers or pumps and piping on the control panel itself.

    Third, alarms need to be designed so that they can be quickly silenced, yet allow other alarms to come in. Preferably this should be over the controls where everyone can see.

    Fourth, look for items where people can make mistakes. Color coded labels on your controls, monitors, etc., as well as logically positioning them can prevent mistakes. Don't just ask for suggestions. Do dry run evolutions and see where design changes can help. Build a mockup and run it with a crew.

    Finally, don't screw up the HVAC design or soundproofing design. It will piss off your operators.

    1. Re:From my experience by lewko · · Score: 1

      Thank you Homer :-)

      Can you explain what you mean by "any controls and monitors should be separated by an aisle where you have desks and computers"? I'm having trouble picturing it.

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    2. Re:From my experience by vlm · · Score: 1

      Can you explain what you mean by "any controls and monitors should be separated by an aisle where you have desks and computers"?

      http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kozloduy_Nuclear_Power_Plant_-_Control_Room_of_Units_3_and_4.jpg

      I currently work at a place like that. No, not a nuke plant, but the kind of place that has a very distinct and obvious physical air gap firewall between the production/engineering network and gear and the IT and internet network equipment. As in, not only can you can not browse facebook or read email viruses on production gear, its physically separate. We do have some cubes with wiring for both, such as mine, but those cube dwellers are those very few considered cluefull enough to be safe.

      This makes things like IOS upgrades and the equivalent kind of interesting, since they originally come from the inet.

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  41. Stuff you need by dgun · · Score: 1

    Exercise equipment. Personal workspaces for each 24/7 staffer. A schedule that is not completely idiotic. A decent break room. A big red button with a sign that says "NEVER PUSH THIS" but doesn't actually do anything. The red button that actually does something should be several layers deep in locked cabinets. A box within a cabinet within a safe should work. Seriously, the first few things I mentioned should be considered. I speak from experience.

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  42. Opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my list... my opinions...

    1. Don't make it all dark(overstated and redundant here).
    2. Give your people some sort of privacy if you don't want high turnover. This could be a simple privacy screen.
    3. If people have to talk on a phone to multiple customers at once, make sure that you have a strategy to keep the sound from bouncing everywhere.
    4. Nice chairs... really nice
    5. Watch out for cloth chairs(they absorb spills)
    6. Keyboards, mice, etc become gross. I honestly would assign people these items.

  43. Screen position by slaw_dawg · · Score: 1

    I know why companies like to put big impressive screens mounted to the wall or ceilings, its for show, makes the room look kinda like mission control at nasa or something. But heres the difference. The big screens up top are for information that is not really something you need to stare at constantly. You can glance up, get what you need and put your head down and continue work. Please do your employees a favor and put their respective important screens they will be spending most of their time looking at, down at sitting eye level. It greatly reduces neck strain and headaches. A high back chair is worth its weight in gold, these crappy rolling chairs with about a square foot of back support just do not cut it. After 8 hours of my back being halfway supported, I will hate that chair, and go find a better one. This usually leads to other unhappy co-workers asking "where did you get that from?" and eventually we will find your comfy chair, and during the graveyard shift, yours might go missing. Save yourself the trouble, just go ahead and get the chairs that fully support back and shoulders. Its worth the extra money. (get a few extra too, they tend to break) Carpet is great for making a room a bit quieter Matte screens reduce glare and eye strain a bit The white buzzing fluorescent lights overhead suck, but you can hide them a bit behind light diffusers, or make the light bounce off other surfaces, and it makes a big difference. YMMV, and good luck!

    1. Re:Screen position by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > The white buzzing fluorescent lights overhead suck...

      You can get quiet ballasts. There are also many choices of color other than "cool white" such as "daylight", "deluxe warm white" etc. but make sure maintainence is instructed to use correct replacement lamps. As someone said earlier, hire a lighting designer.

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  44. Sod! by Beardydog · · Score: 1

    Natural lighting has been mentioned, and I second it, especially the fake windows... but I would also lay sod down (and maybe add a few grow lights to be switched on at night). Not because it has any benefit. I just think it would be neat. Also, some quiet fans on one side of the room that only blow occasionally... hidden behind a bunch of potted trees.

    1. Re:Sod! by mysidia · · Score: 1

      How about real 'windows'?

      Have a fake window that goes to a vent/shaft to the roof or a real window, where sunlight is directed in through a series of mirrors.

      Implement whatever security mechanisms you like to make sure no animals or anything else can intrude the shafts

      Oh yeah, and don't use flickering fluorescents or other lighting with extreme brightness or extreme color temperatures

  45. Re:Fuck you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Bad news... I bought you a dog.

  46. Music Industry Inspiration? by AdamPee · · Score: 1

    My first idea as an audio guy would be to take some cues from the music industry in their control room designs. Sure, maybe you don't need a client couch for hanging out, but you should be able get everywhere you want in the room by rolling chair (minus if you have to dive behind screens/machines to get things fixed, but even that should be accessible), favor more, smaller, warmer lights over florescent (on dimmers, if you really want them to be as comfortable as they want).

    1. Re:Music Industry Inspiration? by lewko · · Score: 1

      you should be able get everywhere you want in the room by rolling chair

      We are aiming to be fully wheelchair accessible, so that should take care of that.

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  47. Physical security control software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You might want to look at Proximex Surveillint as a command and control package (www.proximex.com) for the various physical security systems.

  48. Multiple Computers and Synnergy for Videowall by Little+Brother · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can purchase some really high end equipment to manage multiple monitors on a videowall, but you shouldn't. Use standard PC level hardware (or lower end rackmount depending on space requirements) with no more than two display cards each. Drive all your monitors separately then tie them together with Synnergy. You can still administer them all from a single workstation, fairly seamlessly, but you don't have a single point of failure, and you've probably saved hundreds of dollars. The videowall systems can also run some light duty servers especially system monitoring. (I like Xymon over Nagios, but it depends on what you want to do with it.)

    So far as the monitors themselves, purchase flat-panel HDTV's. They are likely to be cheaper than similarly sized monitors, and you won't want greater resolution than an HDTV can handle for a video wall anyway. This gives you the added benefit of being able to tie in training videos, or third shift entertainment on to one or more screens if needed. Also, if one of your videowall servers goes down right before clients come to view the installation, you can quickly switch those monitors over to CNN, CNBC or another relevant channel.

    The workstation tables should be glass or some other surface that can support either dry erase or grease-pen writing. Being able do simple notes on your desk will reduce scratch paper usage and make maximum use of available areas. Glass cubicle walls will cut down on noise like a cubicle would, but does not give as much of the feeling of being in a box as standard cubicles. They allow unobstructed view of the video-wall and you can write on them with grease pens.

    Have more workstations than you need, and do not tie people their workstations. If someone wants to claim one that is fine, but some people will really like being able to log off, walk across the room, and log back on. This will also allow you to bring in off-shift workers when shit hits the fan.

    As a security measure, get a dot-matrix printer on your firewall. Feed tail -f /var/log/authlog directly to it. If anyone gets in that shouldn't they will NOT be able to erase their tracks.

    Put in a breakroom or break area that still has a view of the common videowall. When your people are taking a break during downtime, they should still be able to see if it is suddenly no longer downtime.

    For the love of God (and your staff) put in a drink fridge or soda fountain and a coffee pot.

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    1. Re:Multiple Computers and Synnergy for Videowall by zippthorne · · Score: 0

      Not only can you get better than HDTV resolution, you can also get significantly better than HDTV refresh rates. Further, you're not restricted to the HD aspect ratio, and you won't have to deal with "overscan" settings because the HDTV's controller expects to be translating analogue signals for some reason.

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  49. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Why don't you do your job and quit trying to pass the buck onto /. where you will just waste our time with your lack of imagination and incompetence. All you have to do is put yourself into the position and think of every eventuality -- sort of what you are asking us to do for you. Gawd the lack of hardworking young people these days ... hmm I need to look good shamming out on this project I've been assigned: BINGO! I'll post it on /.!!! PROFIT!!! Then I won't have to do any research -- they will do it for me -- and I won't have to even think for myself!! And cool be damned!! WHO GIVES A FSCK IF IT LOOKS COOL TO SOME DORK IN ADVERTISING???

  50. Underground happy place by GreenTom · · Score: 1

    Well, the best example I can think of that combines "secure underground bunker" and "happy place" is the title facility from Dollhouse. Think underground zen spa. Honestly, that space could very easily be modified to be an amazing and impressive control center--it even has the mezzanine monitoring section, but might not suit the Star Trek screen.

  51. Don't fuck this up. by OnePumpChump · · Score: 4, Funny

    If this doesn't end up at least vaguely resembling the bridge from either the TOS or TNG Enterprise, you're FIRED.

    1. Re:Don't fuck this up. by lewko · · Score: 1

      We were going for more of an MTAC thing, but it's all good...

      I don't want to have to hang up my own phone. I want to be able to make the "cut" gesture across my neck and have someone else hang it up for me.

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  52. ESPN by wsanders · · Score: 1

    Don't forget the full ESPN package. In HD, games look awesome on a 20 x 35 - foot screen.

    Just to be on the safe side, make a big screen shot of an all-nodes-green Net Manager layout or whatever you use, and keep an image viewer running with that image handy. (I had a previous employer that actually did put up a screen shot of all-OK Net View or whatever, for VIP visits.)

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    1. Re:ESPN by vlm · · Score: 1

      (I had a previous employer that actually did put up a screen shot of all-OK Net View or whatever, for VIP visits.)

      This is a somewhat important point, that at the marketing designed NOCs I worked at, we did have a "system" to make it all happy for sales presentations. Even if we were in the middle of a fiber cut, the big screen would be all green for two minutes while they watched the rats in the cage. Then back to work.

      If the whole purpose is to look cool to ignorant customers, you don't want to show customers that half the network is down.

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  53. get ideas from swedish ISP Banhof's serverbunker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check this URL for an (swedish) article for the swedish ISP's serverbunker Banhof. They do have some great and cool solutions, even to make it un-bunky feeling.
    http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/6109-sweclockers_besoker_bahnhof

  54. Bathrooms, Janitorial Services & Housekeeping by turtleshadow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    24x7 ops in a confined space that you want to actually work inside means caring about the two things overlooked by both IT and Management.

    1) Human waste
    Unless able/willing to get time outside the tank, people _are_ going to: snack,drink coffee & water, etc at their stations.
    The bathroom (mens and womens) is going where? Outside the double tier biometric locked doors past the guard?
    In a crisis or crunch the time use for bathrooms actually goes up as more coffee and crap food (fatty, sugary, glutten, etc) are ingested & a trip to the sewage system is required.

    Also bathroom facilities need to be built with those things necessary for those with disabilities; with obestity / diabetes and those with really bad digestion (IE get a really good odour neutralizaing vent system) Also some sound damping is necessary. After a shift change would you want to hear 14 flushes in a row at your station?

    If you want a real good idea of how human smells take over a confined space take Greyhound to anywhere on a trip longer than 8 hours.
    After a few hours you'll be begging for fresh air & a decent restroom as well. You can figure out the max time people can hold it as would need to if they pass outside the security areas of your ops center.

    2) Housekeeping & Janitorial
    How are and just who will clean the bathrooms as well as the control room area?

    The guys & gals making so little as opposed to the IT guys, but do the really important grunt work during the night to porter the bathroom with their cleaning carts and supplies.
    Really, although the janitors have a key to everywhere they typically will block doors open. The cleaning team is so "trusted" it isn't questioned about bypass of security doors.
    If Solid Snake could hide in a janitors cart not a cardboard box - he'd go anywhere.

    Additionally these are also the people that are going to empty the waste bins, recycle bins, spritz down empty cubes/stations with disinfectant / de oderizers.
    My former company had a policy: if techs are on a station that station will not be cleaned.
    You have to have some sort of desk rotation to move out your personnel (that monitor now covered by a different station) so the area can be cleaned adequately.

    If this is not done you deserve the thick stank that will descend upon your control room.

    If your running really critical Ops: A HR policy on proper hygiene and showers should also a clause in the personnel contract. Everyone laughs until you have to term a tech for stinking to much.

    As a bonus I'll add that my experience is that the AC design will never be adequate nor will the heating. It will be visited often by AC techs in the first 5 years until everyone gives up hope.
    The failure is that AC is typically the retail mall design of a large scale dumping of cold dry air into a large volume of space and somebody's desk (hopefully not yours) is just under where this happens. Hot and cold spots are intractable in a large open floor plan arrangement.

  55. I know this one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked in a Comm Center for 2 years, and now support it as the IT manager. Here's a few key points....

    1. Space is important. The only thing that sucks more than working with some one your not too fond of is having to rub elbows with them for the whole shift. Every position should have enough space so that the person sitting there feels like they have their own workstation. Along this same theme, every position needs it's own phone and computer. Don't expect people to share.

    2. Lighting is paramount. Avoid direct lighting if at all possible. Idealy you would like to have lights on the floor that bounce off the ceiling, and they should be dimmable. If you really have a decent budget, you can two two sets, and regular set and an off color like red, blue, or green. Often times at night, the best set up is dim ambiant light with workstation mounted dimmable, and movable worklights.

    3. Depending on how much communications are going on, headsets are ideal.

    4. Ventalation. After thinking about it, rubbing elbows with some one your not fond of isn't as bad as smelling them.

    5. Shoot for standardized equipment, as opposed to complicated propitery ones. Those consoles may look real nifty until you go to replace the workstations in 5 years and realize you need blamo brand brackets that you need to order from Bob in Cleveland for 90 bucks a pop.

    6. Less is more. When it's all said and done, you will be happier with a bare bones high quality desk/workstation combination than a complicated console set up you will need to tear into later.

  56. Look to a railway control room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We just refurbished the subway control room here in Brussels, to improve ergonomy. Things not to miss for you :
    - split desks with height adjustable desktops : the half with the 2x4 screens and the half with keyboards/mice/phones/... individually adjustable with a motorized system equipped with some memory function. Each operator adjusts it differently to feel good, but if this adjustment has to be done again each day they will not adjust it after 1 week and work in unconfortable positions
    - super-ergonomic seats, comparable to a car seat (with many adjustable things)
    - let make the lighting of the room by a light&lighting specialist : and yes "false windows" with an "artificial sun" behind them is a pretty good idea
    - this specialist must work with the designer which chosse the colors of the walls
    - acoustics have also to be taken into account
    - organize the workstations by taking into account who must often communicate with who, to avoid continuous usage of a phone to talk to the colleague which ist at 3 meters of you but just 1 meter out-of-sight. A "big staircase" design can be an answer
    - put some "green", this is good for the brain
    - don't overload the sight of the operators : more things you see more your brain queues all this mess and less you have CPU cycles to do productive things

  57. Be human by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Design it for humans, that means put the hardware as much as possible in another room or out of the way, use naturalistic colors and basically don't try and make it look "cool" since nobody really wants to work in a server room.

    I'd pay close attention to indoor air quality, ergonomics and lighting.

    If you can pipe in natural light, that'd be great, but if not, indirect lighting, non-fluorescent full-spectrum.

    Also, make sure your software has meaningful alarms, there shouldn't be sound except if it is actually urgent. Nobody wants to have crap beeping all the time and stupid alerts mean that people ignore them or disable them (e.g. Gulf oil spill).

  58. For a pleasent environment by gagol · · Score: 1

    Indirect lighting and plants will add to the atmosphere, do not forget the little fridge for the beer and a smoke lounge.

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  59. Be practical by ISurfTooMuch · · Score: 1

    Look, you need to be practical here. There's a good reason control rooms like the one in 24 don't exist in the real world: they don't work. Forget the video wall and just make sure that your employees have access to what they need on their own workstations. You want this thing to be functional in a crisis situation, right? Then that means that the facility may need to run on backup power, and a bunch of huge monitors are going to use a lot of that power. Not to mention that that expensive video wall is going to quickly become a white elephant, and then something on it is going to fail. At that point, management is going to know the whole thing was pointless, and they aren't going to want to shell out more money to repair it.

    If you want this to work, then focus more on getting your employees comfortable and functional furniture. Dual-monitor systems work well for displaying critical information, provided that you get desks big enough to accommodate them and other needed equipment. As for employee comfort, make sure they have an adequate break area that includes a large fridge, microwave, sink, water cooler, and table. If you don't want visitors to see it, just use partitions to hide it. And if you feel the need to make it look "cool", then get everything in black and/or stainless steel. And if you want to give them something fun to do, then throw in some old arcade games. If management is worried about these being a big time-waster, then make them run on tokens, and give each employee a certain number of them per day, week, etc.

    The thing is, you want a facility that will actually be useful to you. Build that, and you will have made a good investment, and, believe me, clients will take more notice of that than of something that looks good but isn't functional.

    1. Re:Be practical by lewko · · Score: 1

      I hear what you are saying. FYI in my original post, I mentioned CTU as well as MTAC (from NCIS) as examples of 'cool'.

      We are totally committed to making it about function and efficiency (comfort) before 'wow factor'. However we would like to have a bit of that as well, for what could otherwise be little more than an ordinary office with a bunch of monitors.

      I would also like prospective employees to think 'wow' as well. A key aim will be to maintain that comfort and have them post on Slashdot years later about the 'most awesome office they ever worked in'. Or something like that...

      Happy employees are good employees is good business...

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    2. Re:Be practical by uglyduckling · · Score: 1

      I think the 'wow' factor will come from having even a small video wall that actually works properly. Every one I've seen in the public and private sector has been misconfigured, usually because it's driven via the analogue VGA input with the wrong aspect ratio. Even when driven via DVI/HDMI often they've used a domestic TFT TV and not put the direct/exact pixels mode so the driver is using whatever smoothing and interpolation that makes a movie look good but an actual monitor feed look rubbish.

      I drive my living room TFT via HDMI from my Mac with the correct settings, and it looks great. I would say 4 to 6 domestic TFTs that do 1080p properly configured with relevant information and maybe a 24hr news channel or something like that would be more than enough to impress clients, because the chances are the system back at their own office is fuzzy and stretched and generally looks rubbish. In 3-5 years' time, go out and spend a bit of money to replace them with whatever the cutting edge is, hopefully HDMI will be standard for a good 5-10 years so you should be able to update without hassle.

      With some HDMI switchboxes it wouldn't be too hard to be able to switch a workstation onto one of the large monitors if someone wants to show their screen to the rest of the room, and you could impress [potential] clients by asking one of your staff an impromptu question and having them switch their display onto a big screen to show you the answer. Another option would be to permanently have some or all of the big screens as the secondary display of the workstations, and have your staff drag a status display of some sort onto it. They could then very quickly show something to the rest of the team if they needed to.

  60. Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget security guards stationed all around. They should all be female (and not built like J. Reno..), and dressed like Lara Croft. I mean, this is *important*.

    Hey, it works for Muammar Khaddafi!

  61. A bunch of Aura workstations by mysidia · · Score: 1

    As in these

  62. Have a look at what Space Agencies have done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am sure that NASA, JPL and ESA/ESOC have implemented some nice ideas in their control rooms.

    Here are some pictures from the ESOC MRC http://www.google.de/images?q=ESOC%20MCR&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=de&tab=wi , and NASA http://www.google.de/images?um=1&hl=de&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=NASA+control+room&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= , and JPL http://www.google.de/images?um=1&hl=de&tbs=isch:1&sa=3&q=JPL+control+room&btnG=Bilder+suchen .

    Space Agencies like the above are also used to host media upon launch events, so their launch main control rooms are on par with that need.

  63. Do Not Want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You do not want any visitors in a live production control room, period. Same goes for server rooms. All these areas are off-limits for visitors.
    Set up one fake control room for show, with fake data on the screens, if you need to offer a visitor tour.
    But do not lead anyone that is not part of your staff into a room where screens might show confidential client data (and if it's only the internal IP range and network layout of a client)!
    Also, the more people are in that room, the higher the chance that someone pushes the wrong button at the wrong time, distracts staff members from their duties, etc. That's a clear DO NOT WANT.

    And even if you have to bring some external techie in, say, because the A/C broke down, designate one staff member to monitor her/him at all time. One staff member per external techie. And no, that's not a task these staff members should do in addition to their regular shift. When they're monitoring a person, they're monitoring that person only, no one else and no systems, and no taking customer phone calls, either. Yes, monitoring them means literally following them to the bathroom stall door and back, or outside if they want to have a smoke (while they're outside, it's OK if you monitor them through the glass door, or lacking one, from a few feet away, so you can avoid the second-hand smoke*), and back. No matter how well you know them, no matter how often they've been there before.

    *Even if you are a smoker yourself: No, you shouldn't smoke with them. Just like you shouldn't chat with them while they're working. It's fine to invite the techie to a cup of company-paid coffee after doing a good job (or if there's a longer waiting period while a device spins up or down), but keep the chatter to a minimum.

    If you think I'm taking this too serious, then why did you get the idea you needed a bunker-like control room? It's not safer than the regular office if you allow visitors who might accientally spill their bottle of $SOFTDRINK over some expensive equipment (maybe the control panel for your redundant power supply) and take out half of your control room with that. NB: If it takes out the entire control room, it seems you had an avoidable single point of failure there. ;-)

  64. "designer" 4200k, CRI=85+, LOTS, or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ( the best fluorescent light you'll find, is actually a mixture:
    50% designer/high-CRI Daylight, and
    50% designer/high-ColorRenditionIndex WarmWhite, mixed, so
    you get both the yellow-red end of the spectrum AND the blue-green end, fully, and people look healthy in it! )

    or you will keep losing people ( long-term ) to S.A.D:

    We're *evolved* to have about *60*x the light we get in our "offices",
    and it produces significant changes in our long-term function.

    If you want functional people in there, long-term, you're going to have to engage the biological mechanisms of health in 'em.

    That includes the requirement for lots of light, lots of fresh air,
    stick a Consumer Reports recommended eliptical machine WITH heart-rate monitor built-in in the break-space ( so it is possible for them to get the aerobic vitalization they need, without detouring in their off-hours to some membership/gym ),
    iow CONTRIBUTE to the vital health of the people there,
    and they'll be healthily contributing to your work, long-term.

    To do otherwise, and then pretend surprise when people aren't vital long-term,
    aren't healthy long-term,
    or aren't remaining long-term,
    isn't worthy of the word "intelligence".

    Another trick: if you NEED people to be alert to what they're seeing, you're going to have to work-with the 90-minute internal cycle...
    Make it so that people are alternating, on/off, so the ON-time is only 90 minutes long, or you'll have eyeballs without alertness on the screens.

    Also, group the screens so they are in 3-wide groups, and similar stuff in the same row:
    most can't maintain awareness of 4 things at once ( limit extends from salamanders through us, so it's fundamental ), so making it setup so that one is looking-at only 3 monitors at a time ( the 3-wide groups ), and one can go row by row down one's block of monitors, looking for out-of-line stuff...
    makes it more likely that someone's going to notice the anomalies that occur.

    Go for it, get it right, enjoy the results!

    1. Re:"designer" 4200k, CRI=85+, LOTS, or by pcolaman · · Score: 1

      I work with an employer who has done the right thing when it comes to atmosphere. The buildings allow enormous amounts of natural lights in through a combination of a wall-of-glass as windows and a sun light in the middle, where there are even more windows (imagine a building with a building inside it that has glass as a ceiling), not to mention good quality lighting that is not overbearing. Plus the ability to shade the windows on the exterior in cases of too-bright sunlight. I'll grant that we need better chairs, but the lighting is near-perfect for comfort of eyes, considering I have to stare at a computer for at least 8 hours a day.

    2. Re:"designer" 4200k, CRI=85+, LOTS, or by pcolaman · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah and we have an on-site, full service gym. So got that covered too :)

  65. BANHOF by snugge · · Score: 0

    check out this swedish bunker for ideas.
    http://www.bahnhof.se/panorama/

  66. How where I work does it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At the hospital that I work at we have a room where the main phone line goes into. This is a great place to have security and all those things because you have to over staff phone lines to help with peak time that are few and far inbetween. They have a room with like a 15x15 square in the middle with open space. Lots of desks around the corners, and each person has one computer. Each person has a large screen computer for main tasks and one above them(just an eye movement, not a neck movement) above them for specific security cameras that warrant extra attention. There is a larger bank on the back wall that have more computers. There is always one computer open(just in case someone needs to be called in or one goes down) This room is joined in the secure area by the security office(down a back hallway that is only used by security) The only people who can use their badge to get in are the communication workers and the security staff(and certain managers that may need to be in there) All others must pick up a phone, smile for the camera above the phone, and ask to get in for whatever reason. In the end function over form is very important. If you have staff staying for longer than 8 hour shift you need to think strongly about their comfort. Either way, make sure to get nice chairs and some place that they can put drinks and food away from the computers. If you are worried about the staff themselves, lock computers under the desks in cabinets, and always have atleast 2 people in there. If you are worried about the access to the secure room being in a crowded area, it would be good to have a set of double doors, one unlocked and one secured with the phone/camera I was talking about.

  67. Look at people who do it well by garyisabusyguy · · Score: 3, Informative

    I had a short stint with a fire department in a fairly large metro area. They handle emergency response for a few million people and have a pretty efficient set up for their war room.

    It is fairly roomy so that you can get up and walk around.
    desks are set up in pods with groups a people sitting facing towards the center of the hexagons they are on the perimeter of.
    They have phone communications with headsets that allow them to move around
    there are multiple monitors on each desk and large monitors on every wall that can be switched to show any desktop
    The lighting and noise were somewhat subdued, but in no way dimly lit or overly comfortable (no high back chairs)
    I do not remember the snack food situation, but there is a lot of security and it would be a pain to have to walk in and out all the time)

    fwiw, I would save your company a ton of money and just use IP kvms and a software kvm management solution to tie together a bunch of desktops in a relatively open area together where the operators have some room to walk around, but are not overly distracted or lulled to sleep

    ya know, massive operations centers are just soooo glass house IS anyway, totally 80's thinkin

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    1. Re:Look at people who do it well by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      We considered a 'pod' approach, however all the desks will need to face a videowall, so it will tend to be more of a 'classroom' layout, with something of a curve in it.

      All monitors can be linked to the videowall, so (if you'll excuse the NCIS reference - I love that show) anyone can 'put it on the bigscreen'.

      We're evaluating Hiperwall for controlling this. It's really cool and will avoid some of the White Elephants referred to in other comments here, a few years from now.

      We will provide food, snacks etc. However we're mindful that it's a fairly sedentary job so I have to watch out for staff sitting around all day eating cheesy-poofs.

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    2. Re:Look at people who do it well by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      ya know, massive operations centers are just soooo glass house IS anyway, totally 80's thinkin

      On the other hand, re-creating the 80's War Games style control room on the company dime would have a certain degree of old-school nerd cachet.

    3. Re:Look at people who do it well by riT-k0MA · · Score: 1

      While you're talking about it, I'd recommend you provide healthy food to the employees in the Control room:
      It might cost the company a fairly large amount each month, but you'd have a boost in employee morale, possible productivity and they'd be healthier, happier, and need less sickleave.
      It might also be advantageous to have an exercise bike and treadmill or three somewhere in the room or next door. They may not be used all too often, but, again, morale and health boost. Sitting/standing at a desk all day tends to become a bit stressful on the body. If it's at a quiet time (no action) and if the exercise bike is mobile it could be moved to someone's desk and they could have a quick pedal while they watch their screens.

    4. Re:Look at people who do it well by hackshack · · Score: 1

      Personally, I would not give them "snacks," as that will make them fat. The handsome room's aesthetics will be spoiled by a bunch of fatasses at the desks. Providing exercise equipment will not help, as they won't use it and instead will eat the snacks. Think dogs: 3 meals a day is recommended; any more (by way of snacks) leads to fatassery, especially as snacks require no preparation.

      Fatness rant over. I'd also think about the following:

      - acoustics, so as to provide for a less-tiresome work environment. Should be pretty quiet all the time, no humming from machines, etc.
      - lighting, assuming reflective displays and 2-3 generations of displays being swapped out over the lifetime of the NOC.
      - height of "pods." Do you want their heads to be visible to each other? Just eyes? Nothing (traditional cubicles)? I'd recommend their heads or eyes be visible to each other, as traditional cubicles tend to lead to less interaction and more fucking around.
      - level of built-in-idness. That's not a word but let me clarify. Do you want über-fancy, mission-control stuff with flush-mounted displays and consoles, or something a little like a more traditional office? For upgrades and such, the latter is a better choice, but isn't as "sexy." If you need teh sexy, go with dark desks and partitions (black) with either black or aluminum hardware on the desk (Apple Cinema Display type stuff).
      - cable management, and whether you'll allow personal gadgets and such on desks. Where will they plug them in?
      - furniture company. You're on your own on this one, but likely you'll need to choose an office system. We use a HON open plan at work, but it's all white and very 2001: A Space Odyssey.

      Personally I'd use smoked glass everywhere and completely overdo the 80s mission-control room thing. Why the hell not? The only thing that would "date" it is if you got all tacky. Speaking of 2001, check out those set designs. Still timeless. May want to hire an architect with a portfolio of stuff that you like and have them do some concepts.

    5. Re:Look at people who do it well by eyore15 · · Score: 1

      And just remember, "There's no fighting in the war room!" - Dr. Strangelove

    6. Re:Look at people who do it well by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Personally, I would not give them "snacks," as that will make them fat.

      Carrots don't make you fat, keep you from feeling hunger since they're full of fiber, give your teeth something non-sugary to work on, taste good and fresh, have a firm structure that doesn't spill juice when broken and are good for your eyes due to their beta-carotene content. In short, they're pretty much the ideal snack for any IT worker, or really anyone.

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    7. Re:Look at people who do it well by garyisabusyguy · · Score: 1

      the facility that I saw had large screens visible on at least three walls, maybe four.

      There were no cube walls and anybody could make eye contact with most other people in the room.

      One end of the room seemed to be slightly raised so that anybody seated there could see anybody else in the room directly.

      The pods themselves seemed to be arranged in a pattern on the floor that allowed space between them but still packed quite a few operators in there.

      as far as snacks, I would rather see a rotation of people out to a break area than eating at their desk

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    8. Re:Look at people who do it well by riT-k0MA · · Score: 1

      The only problem with carrots is too much gives you vitamin A poisoning.
      A lettuce and cucumber salad, now...

  68. Needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Strippers and a beer volcano!

  69. Fake Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If money is no object then make a couple of fake windows by installing windows frames with a TV monitor enclosed with a live feed from ourside the office. From a distance it gives the impression of a real window when one is not always possible.

  70. Consistency by Brother+Seamus · · Score: 1
    Coordinate with your contractors to standardize the graphical systems and control panels of the various systems. All systems should follow the same basic navigation hierarchy. All systems should use the same neutral colors for basic monitoring. They should all use the same high-contrast colors for warnings and alarms. A critical alarm requiring immediate attention should mute all non-critical alarms.

    .

    You may wish to add animated graphical elements, flashing lights etc. These should only be used for show-and-tell with clients and investors. Normal day-to-day elements should be simple yet maximally informative (trend screens > text; basic line drawings > animations).

    1. Re:Consistency by vlm · · Score: 1

      You may wish to add animated graphical elements, flashing lights etc. These should only be used for show-and-tell with clients and investors.

      Right now our alert board has something useless on it from 8/30 a week ago that is still blinking scrolling away a week later. Totally irrelevant and annoying and meaningless but it is too internally politically correct to simply zap it.

      Thankfully they did it in javascript so I was able to 'forbid' the page using the noscript addon so its not so annoying.

      NOC designer lesson #1 - If you make a terrible design, and staff it with intelligent people, they WILL find a way to "fix" your design, almost certainly not the way you would have preferred.

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  71. Offtopic: But somebody had to post it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/11/14/the-worlds-most-super-designed-data-center-fit-for-a-james-bond-villain/

    Coolest Datacentre ever. They have submarine engines for backup power!

  72. How about ZEN environment? by Fri13 · · Score: 1

    Bathrooms close to the control room. So if a person needs to go there, is is just next door. Best if it is build to same space (with walls and door so noises etc does not come out) so the time to be there is limited.

    Then have something relaxing in the room. Lighting should change and there could be more like a "Zen garden" environment as well. TV's and other entertaiment systems are just bad as you know what happens when there comes sport or other stupid (sport is not stupid but you get the point) entertaiment what takes time. Then people is watching TV and not the screens.

    And if there are monitors for security cameras, have a light next to them what blinks when they notice movement. This especially for camera monitors what dont usually have motion.

  73. Abnormal Situation Management by ZombieEngineer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The chemical processing industry have been working together for at least 15 years on related topics.
    http://www.asmconsortium.net/deployment/guidelines/Pages/default.aspx

    Might be something in there that help.
    Specifically display standards and alarm rationalisation ("every alarm should have a unique action", if there is nothing the operator on shift can do about an alarm it should be journaled).

    ZombieEngineer

  74. Talk to the operators by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    Determine the decisions that need to be made, how they operate, what information they need to do that and how to best display that information. Nothing is worse than trying to operate a plant with a control room designed by someone who has no clue how it operates or what operator needs and as a result has a lot of cool but useless displays. Case in point - I worked on a control room design where the designers laid out nice sets of digital displays. Uncluttered, clear and totally useless during transients because you had no idea what key parameters where doing; unlike analog gauges where you could estimate max / min / average from the gauges' fluctuations.

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  75. Joel on Software blog might have some good ideas.. by joesilicon · · Score: 1

    Check out Joel on Software blog. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/BionicOffice.html He has a nice series of articles on designing his new office space for programmers. Much of it is not relevant to your exact situation, but you will find some good ideas (desks that can be lifted into a standing position for instance.)

  76. Forget CTU ... by gafisher · · Score: 1

    ... what you're asking for sounds more like Dr. Strangelove.

  77. get a Directv box for that as you can use a RF rem by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    get a Directv box for that as you can use a RF remote to control the box with out line of site.

  78. My control room experience at fermilab by dotmax · · Score: 2, Informative

    These are just my experience. I've worked in SSN maneuvering (reactor plant control) rooms, and at Fermilab, the Experimental Areas, D0, CDF control rooms and now days, the Main Control Room.

    Keep the racks sealed, front and back as much as possible, to keep dust in the room from getting into the electronics. You might (or not) be amazed at how much dust a control room can collect over a year.

    Include a fair amount of sound deadening foam. again, it's remarkable how loud pcs can get, way moreso if you have to add fan cooled crates and such.

    Stay away from trackballs unless you can get *really* *awesome* trackballs, they tend to collect crap inside and are usu. kinda a PITA to clean.

    Beware of the temptation to put in q00l tracklights, as they have a tendency to cause a lot of glare. Keep bookshelvs away from the consoles as much as possible.

    Have your operators face AWAY from the hallway. Consider keycard access to keep distractions down. Spend the money on comfy high-backed chairs. Kitchen immediately adjacent to the control room. Bathroom nearby. Consoles should go UP, not out; it's easier to look up than turn your head and it _will_ make a difference.

    I would not curve your workstations; skooching from one point to the next in a curved layout requires a unique trajectory for each endpoint; straight layouts are easier to run your chair along.

    Here's mine http://www-visualmedia.fnal.gov/VMS_Site/gallery/stillphotos/2006/0000/06-0022-30D.hr.jpg kinda big, and i'm in the picture! Looks old and clunky but we manage.

    HTH

    1. Re:My control room experience at fermilab by zippthorne · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      GAH, gross.

      You need ONE, good sized monitor for your windowing display. Users can task switch and arrange the windows how they want to. Satellite displays are for data that MUST be shown at all times, or that must not be limited by inclusion into the windowing system. They should be basically static in form, and have purpose-built instruments, rather than general-purpose monitors, preferably.

      Those top-monitors are useless: while your users are glancing up at them, they're not looking at their screen. With proper window-switching they could've twitched their fingers, rather than craned their necks to get that information.

      Monitors that high up really aren't for the use of the people at the station. If you're putting them there, they're for people behind the people at the station. e.g. other workers, supervisors, etc. And should be sized appropriately to be read from the distance they're being used at.

      Keep in mind that humans can only read one monitor at a time, anyway. Just because we have a lot of peripheral vision doesn't mean it's useful for *reading* or taking in graphs. You only really need one monitor per set of eyes present.

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    2. Re:My control room experience at fermilab by dotmax · · Score: 1

      It is indeed gross, but it works. You need to remember that this room has been operational, online and manned 24/7/365 for the last 40 years. Those big yellow racks? Been there since 1970. You should also understand that we don't get the money to gussy it up. We'd like nice fancy wide screen displays but it's not a budget priority. Those displays on top? Yes, are, in fact, for room-wide monitoring, esp for that guy at the empty desk in the middle, which is probably self evident by the size of the graphics displayed. Notice the sound deadening material. Notice the straight lines. Notice that there is no storage at the workspaces. We have a pretty good grasp on the details of the ergonomics. This control room is a poster child for function over aesthetics. If you would like to see it up close, just ask, i'd be happy to give you a personal tour. Like i said, i'm in the picture.

    3. Re:My control room experience at fermilab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do I get a personal tour? Which one are you in the picture?

    4. Re:My control room experience at fermilab by kent_eh · · Score: 1

      I especially like the Magic 8 Ball and Easy Button at the supervisor's station

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  79. Only one suggestion by BlindRobin · · Score: 1

    Plan for change. Especially as this seems to be much more about flash than function. The aesthetic is at the whim of fashion more than usability. So Expect to change it often or to scrap it and start over on short notice.

  80. Cheap Fold Up Chairs by 4105 · · Score: 1

    At the last company I worked for the ops center was on a raised floor, but with carpet tiles. Some enterprising tier 1 folks discovered that at the very back of the room was a 3 foot tall crawl space. At some point they brought in those cheap folding lounge chairs, and left them with jackets under the floor. I think that 3rd shift was very very comfortable for them.

    1. Re:Cheap Fold Up Chairs by vlm · · Score: 1

      Some enterprising tier 1 folks discovered that at the very back of the room was a 3 foot tall crawl space.

      At one NOC, about 20 years ago, we had a terribly overworked cooler that had to be turned way down (near freezing) to keep up. We also had no fridge in the NOC. Well, until I taught my coworkers how to store food and drink under the cooler. Company had a fit claiming the food would attract rodents whom would gnaw the cables, and we got a fridge. Enough said. Tried to get a microwave by threatening to hold my TV dinner in front of one of the microwave links, but didn't get a microwave out of it, so this strategy doesn't always work.

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  81. Re:Fuck you by sumdumass · · Score: 1

    No you didn't, you still owe me $20 you need to pay before you can actually say you bought it.

  82. Tape reels, and an ergonomics person by inpher · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yup. No, he desperately needs to hire an ergonomics person as soon as possible! Especially if he gets only one shot at it and has no experience he should hire someone with experience and the right education for the job. The cost if something goes wrong (quite likely) when someone uneducated and unexperienced runs things is minimal compared to what a few days worth of consulting time from a ergonomics individual wold cost.

    1. Re:Tape reels, and an ergonomics person by Peach+Rings · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's endearing how earnestly you try to help the OP. But let me assure you, when an Ask Slashdot appears starting with "My company is undertaking a multi-million dollar project, wat do I do lol," no comment ever is seriously given the remotest consideration.

    2. Re:Tape reels, and an ergonomics person by deniable · · Score: 1

      And then three months later we get to undo everything the 'expert' had us install. A bad consultant is worse than no consultant and we seem to get the worst or they're given no budget and expected to work miracles. Either way we get screwed.

  83. Take a look at "Pionen" by sandnabba · · Score: 1

    A datacenter in Sweden. Originally a civil defence command central, 30m underground in a nuclear secure bunker: http://www.bahnhof.se/pionen/gallery/ A guided tour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwlATf9xse4

  84. 60 Inches Fake (LCD) Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use LED-backlight LCD TV as artificial windows?

  85. Make it so that people can wear bunny slippers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "Death Wears Bunny Slippers" patch comes from the notion that the people who are supposed to start WWIII and end the world might just be wearing fuzzy pink bunny slippers when they do it. That’s because once you are underground and locked in your 15×10 ft capsule for 24 hours with another officer the uniforms come off pretty darn quick. It’s all sweats, PJs and anything else in the comfy clothes category after that, at least until your relief crew arrives the next day.

  86. DOCUMENTATION. by subreality · · Score: 4, Informative

    What hardware you have doesn't matter much. Any run of the mill dual headed desktop will do what I need - a few browser windows, a dozen xterms, and some email up in the corner. Anything else is just for show.

    What's really valuable when I'm on point is documentation. I need to know:

    What does this server do?
    What's the procedure to rebuild it?
    Who built it last time, in case I hit trouble?
    Who's the business owner?
    How do I reach them? A cell number would help.
    What's the escalation path when they're AWOL?
    Where are the contact numbers for our transit providers?
    What are their SLAs?
    Where's a map of our network, in case I have to creatively reroute traffic in ways that OSPF won't?
    Is it up to date?
    What services are exposed in the DMZ?
    Where's the ticket requesting this port be opened?
    Are there supposed to be 100,000 different IPs connecting here, or just three?
    Where is the password vault?
    What's the procedure to update the password vault if I have to change one?

    Being able to find these things quickly will make me a much happier sysadmin than any creature comforts, excluding caffeine.

    If you want to get into creature comforts in a windowless bunker, make it lighting. I don't want it bright, but it should be well designed to cover the space well. Good warm triphosphor fluorescents with high frequency electronic ballasts are much much nicer than the old cold ones with 120Hz flicker from magnetic ballasts. Color rendering index matters. That makes a good base lighting for the workspace. Then get a few of those industrial HID grow lamps, and have them light a big picture of a forest scene covering an entire wall. Or actually grow plants under them, and don't pay too close attention to what else people plant when you're not looking. Careful not to make it too bright, but the sun-like spectrum will break up the monotony of the fluorescents. Add some bright halogen task lights for when you need to see something well, without having to flood the whole room.

    Raise the ceiling as high as you can. Rip out the ceiling tiles. Suspend the lights on cables. Let the ductwork show. Paint it all black. I hate living in a box. Exposing all the HVAC and cabling breaks it up, and I actually like the minimalist industrial aesthetic. If you want a softer look, hang some tapestries up amongst the machinery.

    1. Re:DOCUMENTATION. by careysb · · Score: 1

      I like your "I need to know" list. Where I work we have a pretty well decked out control room. Unfortunately, quite often a trouble ticket is sent to the development team responsible for the user interface instead of digging deeper to find out if it is perhaps caused by a failure in one of the back-end systems or database servers. This adds unnecessary work and delays in resolving the problem.

  87. Good coffee machine. by drolli · · Score: 1

    And a sofa.

  88. Needs a better name by CODiNE · · Score: 1

    Call it "the NOC". People go 'Whoah'.

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    1. Re:Needs a better name by lewko · · Score: 1

      Yes, but then our staff get called NOCCERS and people go 'heh'.

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  89. Too much! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You will never find competent employees that will be able to monitor networking infrastructure, and also want do to/do security monitoring and fire alarm monitoring/camera monitoring.
    This should be 2 separate rooms and tasks. Treated 100% different and separately. If you want feel free to put them under the same budget I guess (another stupid idea) you can build the 2 rooms adjoined at the same secure location if you want.

  90. Two words... by pjwhite · · Score: 1

    Cup holders.

    1. Re:Two words... by lewko · · Score: 1

      Sorry. Our operators won't have access to CD-ROM drives.

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  91. Best Underground Lair I've Seen... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I saw this on Slashdot, I immediately thought back to these guys in Sweden who built an underground data centre... the pictures look cool... maybe some ideas to take away from here. I'm sure this was covered on Slashdot too at the time?

  92. NASA style command center is outdated! by russg · · Score: 1

    Yawn.

    If you were trying to impress me try automating the entire thing and show how traps and triggers dispatch techs automatically. You could even show how the system "self-heals" as that is the buzz of this year.
    Having a reduced costs follow the Sun tech group with good communications and even video conference is far more effective and cost efficient than build a bunker with local staff.

    Show how you predict issues and not wait for failure.

  93. Do it Bender-style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do it Bender-style: with blackjack and hookers. The clients will love it.

  94. Re:Make it Functional, But install a Cool-Mode But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make sure there's a "boss key" that flips things back to something that at least looks work related, so they can look busy when visitors come in. Yes, that includes their own managers, but so what? Presumably there's a way to monitor what they're doing, and if they need the boss key when they're not on break, they'll get busted sooner or later, [snip]

    I suggest having the boss key set up so that when it is pressed, a very futuristic sounding stream of bleeps and bloops is emitted (in addition to the eye candy). It would improve the ambiance for the visitors, and the managers would know who is taking too much me-time.

  95. This by oljanx · · Score: 1

    http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/11/14/the-worlds-most-super-designed-data-center-fit-for-a-james-bond-villain/ Dimly lit, lots of blue and green accent lighting. Lots of organics, running water, etc. And keep it a few degrees below normal room temperature.

  96. Care Bears make it a happy place! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have this playing on one of the monitors 24x7, with the audio up to full volume.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2WTARyipwU

    Also, the Happy Happy Joy Joy song!

  97. As far as visitors go by jetole · · Score: 1

    My company now hosts are servers in a massive data center (it was in the /. story of the top 10 largest data centers a few months ago) and, when we were touring the data center prior to moving in, they had a room that sounds exactly like what you are describing you want to make. The aspect regarding visitors is this, their is an observation platform, outside of the room, behind it, where there is a large window that you can see in. This is one of the electronic windows where, when you flick a wall switch, the window changes between clear / normal and between a completely hazed white semi transparent window. When it's turned to off, all you can see is light from the room. You cannot even tell exactly where the screens are. This can work wonders since, mostly you want this room to be kept private so it helps prevent people from just peering in but, additionally, since it's behind the room and since it makes no sound to activate, I don't think the staff will immediately notice that someone is there looking in. This makes for a great demonstration tool and at the same time allows you to look in on the staff in person without letting them know but at the same time, without hiding it from them.

  98. Carpet by domanova · · Score: 1

    The CERN SPS control room had carpet on the walls. This to stop us hurting ourselves when it all got too much and the headbanging started.
    There were also jokes

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  99. Fiber Optics by Lifyre · · Score: 1

    Use fiber optics to transmit the light. There are some sky scrapers that do this (and use it to grow plants too) to help decrease power consumption. The only ones I know of are in Japan but it may be worth looking into.

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  100. straight out of europe & practicaly mandatory by dyshexic · · Score: 0

    electrically height adjustable desks allowing a range of positions from sitting to standing. Worth every penny in my opinion and will save you massively in productivity gains. Also training people in how to sit for their backs not for how they are used to. we should move around much more than we do. In combination with good ergonomic chairs and height adjustable monitors you can produce exceptionally effective environments.

  101. maybe some nice posters for decor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    like this one or that one.

  102. control room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hi ! on this subject if folks gonna be in this room for many hours. gotta think of things like drinks, food, bathrooms ya that sort of thing
    for me it's what i would want if i,m gonna be in this kind of room for 8 to 10hrs a day.
    also the fake windows idea in a previous post is a good idea to gootta make it feel like a office not some concrete prison!

    well that's my 2cents..
    ttyl

  103. Why would I tell you for free... by azrider · · Score: 1

    What you will pay me to design?

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  104. Fishtanks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know... Water and critical control systems. But they are nice and relaxing... Like windows into another world.

    1. Re:Fishtanks? by lewko · · Score: 1

      Fishtanks strike me as overpriced screensavers.

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  105. I've worked in a control room before by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

    I've worked in a control room before, I can give you tips from my experience. If there will be more than 1 person there, make it possible for each person to have their own lighting levels and ventilation. Having people work long hours in an enclosed space like that, you are probably going to get a lot of employees that get migraines and back problems (its the nature of the job) so just keep that in mind. If you have all the employees sitting close together with 1 vent, 1 light switch and then one of them shows up with a Doctors note that says the lights have to be dim and the temperature bellow 60 at all times you're going to have drama. -- Giant screens with alarms displayed are stupid. They are just for show, and every manager that thinks they want to look concerned will use the screen as an excuse to stop by and bug your workers on a regular basis. "whats that flashing red one!!" "That's the fan alarm on the hed3 router, they have one on order, don't worry there's a backup fan."But couldn't it fail!" "If it does, we'll go stick a window fan in there" "But!!" "Get out please" etc... Trust me, this shit happened all the time to us and we finally took the screens down. -- If you DO have to have siren type stuff and flashing lights (like the spinny red kind and the tornado style alarms) keep in mind the room they are in and keep the volume and light levels appropriate. I was working in a facility which had an observation room that was about 10ft by 10ft, they kept the room very dark for some reason. One night I'm sitting there, it's dead silent and a sound not unlike God grinding his heal into my ear drum began while 3 police stile red spinning lights went off. The alarm went on for about 30 seconds and then god spoke "THIS IS A NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BULLETIN. THERE IS A SEVERE STORM WARNING FOR THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES" I damn near shit myself. -- If you want it to look cool, I recommend a negative airflow system. You get really nice clean air to help your employees to stay awake and healthy and neato vacuum gauges on the walls displaying the rooms negative pressure. Also, in the event of a gas leak, terrorist attack or nuclear holocaust, they'd live that much longer. You could also get a thumbprint lock for the door pretty cheap. They are worthless and easy to fool, but they look pretty cool. Lastly a white board I think is essential. You need a way for each shift to write things down for the next shift. "This alarm keeps going of. Jim said to call him at home when it does and he'll log in to reset it" etc... Stuff like that is essential. Make them write a date next to each message so you know when somethings old and can probably be erased.

    1. Re:I've worked in a control room before by faclonX · · Score: 1

      ...Lastly a white board I think is essential. You need a way for each shift to write things down for the next shift. "This alarm keeps going of. Jim said to call him at home when it does and he'll log in to reset it" etc... Stuff like that is essential. Make them write a date next to each message so you know when somethings old and can probably be erased.

      Isn't that what a good ticketing system is for? Cut a ticket, send out an email thread, have a shift handover list for every team, and so the incoming team knows what the hell is going on they can find the email with the corresponding ticket number

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    2. Re:I've worked in a control room before by shrimppesto · · Score: 1

      uhh, wouldn't you want a positive airflow system? a negative airflow system keeps bugs/toxins inside, not outside. it'd be good for the bathroom, but not the control room. unless your staff has really bad hygiene.

    3. Re:I've worked in a control room before by vlm · · Score: 1

      and then one of them shows up with a Doctors note that says the lights have to be dim and the temperature bellow 60 at all times you're going to have drama.

      Ha ha ha, the real drama is two conflicting doctors notes and a union contract that you can't force them to switch shifts. That, is high comedy for those not directly involved, and I've seen it.

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    4. Re:I've worked in a control room before by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

      No, I've worked in these systems before. Your ticketing system is for alarms/troubles, or whatever. You may have hundreds or thousands come in per night. The point of the whiteboard is for things the ticketing system is bad at handling. Stuff you can ignore for the night, or SoandSo is going to test the fire alarm at 3am. It's there for the few things that are just a bit odd and everyone should know about. Emails are terrible. Remember, the email system is likely one of the things these people are monitoring. What happens to the process when the email system fails? Whiteboards never fail. Also, how many emails go out in this company? In my last job like this I was getting over 100 per day. It's pretty easy for stuff like this to get lost in that mess.

    5. Re:I've worked in a control room before by lewko · · Score: 1

      Whiteboards never fail

      I've got a Sharpie that says they do.

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  106. Giant crazy displays by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

    At work, I use a network monitor I wrote that displays network traffic as randomly-places rectangles. The number of rectangles per refresh cycle is proportional to the packet count (as reported by /proc/net/dev). The height is relative to the download rate, and the width is relative to the upload rate. At a glance, a trained eye can tell what kind of traffic is going through the system, and that can indicate what the machine's doing at that point. To the untrained eye, it just looks awesome, especially when projected onto a wall at the end of the office.

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    1. Re:Giant crazy displays by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 1

      Can you get a screenshot?

    2. Re:Giant crazy displays by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

      I don't have any screenshots available offhand, but I have source. It's in C++, and I'm very definitely not a C++ guy, but it works.

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  107. this will never be read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked in a NOC for several years and see a lot of things here that hit home for me. One I did not see was the sharing of keyboards. Everyone talked about the chairs and that is important, but i HATED sharing a keyboard.

    We kept rubbing alcohol by the gallon and rolls of paper towels to cleanse everything between shifts, but I'd have loved to have "My Own" desk/space, that no other nasty folks touched.

    We kept smoked glass between us and the looking glass. Turned out we had the only TVs in the office building and on 9/11 we had 3000 people trying to watch the news as we were trying to deal with mass outages in NYC. Once one person holds a door open to let a friend in, the entire office streamed in. It was bad.

    Close bathrooms, smoking area, coffee mess, lockers if there is no or not enough space to store personal items, bookshelves for reference material, management team that works facing me instead of behind me or down the line would have been nice to avoid shouting over people's heads.

    1. Re:this will never be read by ziani · · Score: 1

      Nope, I read it. All excellent points!
      -z

  108. Two words... by lordsid · · Score: 1

    ball pit.

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  109. Suggestions by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    Plants
    Incandescent Lighting
    Comfortable Chairs
    Art on the walls
    More Plants

  110. We don't need no stinkin' engineers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What an interesting coincidence that you would ask!
    My company is soon to build a complete launch facility
    for a large variety of rockets. Along with state-of-the-art
    satellite communications, a research & testing department,
    flight & safety monitoring and an innovative think-tank for
    next-generation proposals, there will also be medical,
    recreational and banking provisions for families who
    will actually live on-site. Whilst reality doesn't
    always transfer to our hopes, think "Cape Canaveral".
    Hey, Slashdot, what are your suggestions on how we
    should build this?

    1. Re:We don't need no stinkin' engineers! by lewko · · Score: 1

      It's ironic the number of /. posts which bitch that management never consulted staff before designing workspaces. So I go and do exactly that, which results in people like you bitching about it.

      If you were dropping as much coin as we are, believe me, you'd want as many opinions on some things as you could lay your hands on.

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  111. Re:Make it Functional, But install a Cool-Mode But by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

    But you can have your cake (or Cake, if you are using cool indie rock background music) and eat it too

    If it's no trouble to you, I'll have the cake and let you eat the Cake.

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  112. Noise by nospam007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having worked in several such control rooms as a railway dispatcher, what made me mad was that the morons installed the computers under the desks (dozens, also every person working there had 6 monitors) with lots of ventilators and cold air coming from the AC in the room below. They could just as easily have put the computers in the room below, since they were in enclosed, locked metal boxes for security reasons, that way all the noise and cold air under the desk would have been avoided.
    OTOH the noise-cancellation walls, floors and ceilings were OK.
    If many different people sitting in the same seats, with varying weights and habits, the (expensive) seats were usually broken after 3-4 months.

    One other thing, if they run a blocked, single app all the time, lefthanders need still a way to change the R/L mouse buttons, we didn't have that, it sucked for lefties.

    Also, since the machines were totally blocked from accessing them, even changing a keyboard or mouse needed a certified tech, who had to be called from home during the night and holidays, that really sucked, how hard would it be to place connectors on the desk.

    1. Re:Noise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if you have PS/2 ports, that's fine, but USB ports is a bad thing, security-wise; even if you've got things set to not open mass-storage, a USB stack is complex enough to make anyone nervous, so I understand that bit. As for the leftie bit, unless you're quite strictly supervised, I'd bring in a battery-power soldering iron and some.wire, and hardware reverse it...

  113. Single Point for Failure by Katchu · · Score: 1

    Single Point for Failure -- What could possibly go wrong?

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  114. This probably won't get read but... by faclonX · · Score: 2, Informative

    I work in a NOC, 12hr rotating shifts, and we work 24/7/365 (and 366 on leap years :)). What I recommend is very comfortable fully adjustable high back chairs with a head rest.

    As for monitors, you need to give them fully adjustable mounts, with nice high quality wide screen displays (Some may say standard aspect ratio, but seriously, widescreen would make my job SO much easier). 4 Monitors would be good too, 3 is good, 4 would be far better. Give them a powerful computer, and make sure they are kept up to date hardware wise, plus, if these people are technical, and you're giving them the keys to your castle, make sure they have admin rights on their own machines so they can fix minor issues without calling your IT Disservice Desk. Give them relatively unfiltered internet, night shifts get VERY boring. Make sure every telephone has a corded and cordless headset for comfortable use, holding a handset to the ear for long periods is hopeless, and wireless is good for short calls, but you need wired for anything long.

    As for lighting, task lighting that the users can control is very important, as well as dimable overhead reflective lighting is important. As for desks, adjustable hight is important for comfortable use, and make them BIG. As for your video wall, make it a good size, and have it easily changeable if someone notices something important is missing, give them TV, hell, if you can, give them 2 'tvs', one for news, one for something else, and give them the ability to change the channels if they want to watch a hockey game at night, or if the olympics are on, etc, etc, etc.... Make sure the enviromental controls are good, and not constantly changing. Give them the ability to play music for the whole operation center, entertainment is BIG when working long shifts.

    Give them a lounge to relax in before shift, or on lunch, or after shift. I think thats everything I can think of for now

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  115. custom T-Shirt is very cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ustomizable T shirt is very cool, everyone focus, street, party, everything you can! To do the first himself. Waazula is dedicated to the customization service e-commerce platform, 3D personalized production, beautiful things, very cool

  116. Problems with these rooms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I was in charge of a small control room for the military. Obviously I won't talk about the security aspects of it, but I'll gladly tell you of some of the more practical aspects of it.

    1. The biggest factor right off the bat would be the proper environmental control. Our room was a small room off of a larger main room. When the AC went out, even in the winter time the room became unpleasantly warm very quickly. A seperate AC until controlled in each room independently is important. Ventilation was also an issue. Too many adult males on a bad diet in close quarters. Use your imagination.

    2. Cleanliness became an issue, since it was in a secure area staffed by a large number of people the levels of dust became an issue. Unless you have cleaning staff that is cleared to come in the area, your staff is going to have to have access to cleaning supplies and effective vacuums.

    3. Sound levels were an issue. A number of desktops, plus network gear, plus radio and com gear resulted in a quite loud environment even when the equipment was not in use. Sound dampening on the walls and quiet computer systems are a must.

    4. Lighting levels were a problem. The room had been converted and not purpose built. With no outside windows and normal height ceilings led to some really bad lighting and lowered the morale of the people. High/vaulted ceilings are must and the ability to change brightness level will go a long way to helping out people with cycle clues.

    5. Break areas and bathrooms facilities will be a problem. If they are inside the secure areas then you run into cleaning again, if they are outside then it becomes a difficulty of getting people in and out of the area.

    6. Multiple monitor setups are a must, but don't over do it on video walls they hardly ever get used. Pick up those cool robot desk arms for your monitors so maximize desk space.

  117. Great control room setup by Zen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I used to work for a large insurance company in Chicago. The director charged with building our NOC in 2000 basically traveled throughout the country visiting other large IT organization's NOC's and took the best ideas and made them work for us - and it did resemble 24.

    Take a large crescent shaped room with a 30' or more ceiling. The video wall was three different sections (this is important for separation of displays and multiple tools at the same time). The display units were high end rear projection systems that were each hooked up to computers that drove the display and were roughly 3'x5' each. Of course there's no seam or separation between the screens. Any group of screens can be used to display anything you want (1 screen, 2, 4, 6, all, etc). Pretty basic stuff nowadays, but it was great ten years ago. The left and right banks had three screens stacked on top of eachother, by either 4 or 5 wide. The center bank was 3 high by either 8 or 10 wide.

    Three rows of crescent tables with low walls in front separating them, and minimal separation between workspaces - you want people in a NOC to work very closely with eachother, especially in case of an outage. Each station had two or three LCD screens mounted on articulating arms, but not to be stacked on top of eachother like those trading desks you see with 6 or 8 LCD screens at them. That would be too tall, and you couldn't look over the top to see the main video wall without standing. The room sat close to 50 people. Around the edges of the room are various cabinets, printers, personal storage for the three shifts of employees that work in the NOC, etc. Of course high end chairs are important as others have noted. Lighting is also equally important. You have to be very careful with making sure it is as close to natural lighting as possible. The lighting we used was recessed and inset so that no lightbulb shone directly out or down on the people - it made it less harsh, but still very bright in the room based on a good design. Wireless headsets are important, and also minimizing speakerphones and any other distracting noise.

    Behind the rows of tables at the back of the crescent in the donut hole section if you will is an enclosed room large enough to sit 30 people comfortably with power, phones, and network connections to cover it. The walls facing the NOC are floor to ceiling glass, and it has connectivity to the videowall of the NOC so that displays from their can be sent to the meeting room as well. It has every high end normal conference room tool you could need - multiple video conferences, smartboard, integrated microphones and speakers, etc. Everything was hidden inside builtin cabinets made of high end wood. This main room is the situation room. During a large outage, 2nd and 3rd level staff will work out of the room in conjunction with the NOC teams. Directly upstairs from the situation room is another identical room, also with floor to ceiling glass walls looking out to the video wall of the NOC. This upper room was reserved for senior and executive management use during a large outage. Engineers and Executive management have different needs during an outage and require separate spaces and separate functions, although constant information does need to feed between the two. The upper room was more of the showpiece room. It had a motorized curtain that you could press a button on the wireless control panel to open and close. The entrance from the building going up to the second floor board room does not give anything away for what the NOC itself looked like, so once everybody was assembled in the room and the button was hit, it never failed to impress first time visitors. They would always leave their chairs at the conf table and walk right up to the glass wall to look down at the people working in the NOC and see what was displayed on the board.

    It was an extremely impressive setup. I am now in sales and visit customer sites on a daily basis and I have yet to see something that even approaches what this

    1. Re:Great control room setup by uglyduckling · · Score: 1

      Are you sure your director didn't just watch WarGames? What you describe sounds almost exactly like the setup in the military base there, even down to the curtained rooms overlooking the main area.

    2. Re:Great control room setup by vlm · · Score: 1

      Thats because he didn't select the best ideas, he selected the ideas coolest to those whom never worked in a NOC.

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    3. Re:Great control room setup by toddestan · · Score: 1

      May I ask what an insurance company needs with a room like that? To me, it just sounds like a waste - probably why my premiums are so high.

    4. Re:Great control room setup by diamondmagic · · Score: 1

      probably why my premiums are so high.

      Except that cost doesn't determine price, price is supply and demand, and price determines the cost.

  118. Don't touch it you fool! by Born2bwire · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will his tortured mind give in to it's uncontrollable desires? Can he withstand the temptation to push the button, that even now, beckons him ever closer? Will he succumb to the maddening urge to eradicate history, at the mere push of a single button? The beautiful shiny button. The jolly candy-like button. Will he hold out, folks? Can he hold out?

  119. Control by whistler36 · · Score: 1

    You need to have control, and lots of it. Everybody, everything. Have loudspeakers that constantly blast out things like "This is the control room, baby! Let's have some control here!". Hire some dude to stand around with his arms crossed just staring at people. Occasionally he asks "What the heck do you think you are doing, mister?", then nods sternly and wanders off.

  120. Hire an experienced architect or interior designer by ziani · · Score: 1

    This is going to be a massively expensive exercise...

    I don't want to misread your post, but assume you're asking for input from those "in the trenches," so to speak, which I heartily applaud. Spend some "quality time" with the project architect and/or interior designer. If they've been chosen well (not always a safe assumption), they should be able to tell you - in plain English, not "designer-speak - exactly what they've taken into account and their prior experience designing 24/7 secure facilities. You'll be surprise about the things you haven't considered (which they have). OTOH, if they sound like someone who designed the CEO's house (and nothing like what's planned), sound the alarm bells. Good luck with your project.
    -z

  121. Ideas for brain surgery? by Geste · · Score: 1

    I have to say that the general proposition -- "Ideas for a great control room?" -- makes me a bit nervous.

    If I saw a post on Slashdot asking "Ideas for a Formula One race car?" or "Ideas for brain surgery?" I think I could be forgiven if I wondered if the folks asking the question/s were qualified to do so.

    Jim

    1. Re:Ideas for brain surgery? by lewko · · Score: 1

      I am the OP.

      It's ironic the number of /. posts which bitch that management never consulted staff before designing workspaces. So I go and do exactly that, and then there are a number of people on this thread complaining about that instead!

      Go figure.

      Suffice it to say, if you were dropping as much coin as we are, believe me, you'd want as many opinions on some things as you could lay your hands on. Our designers and experts are loving this thread by the way and I am flattered that it made it to the front page of /.

      Ideas are ultimately just that.

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  122. And once in a while, have a drill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...just like the real 24, and have the place on lockdown until the mole has been identified. Other companies have (ho-hum) fire drills; you can have hostage situations. Make like the clients or visitors are a visiting UN delegation, with questionable documentation.

    1. Re:And once in a while, have a drill by lewko · · Score: 1

      Damnit!

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    2. Re:And once in a while, have a drill by JuzzFunky · · Score: 1
      Hey lewko, I read your sig:

      -- Do you or your partner snore? - Visit www.snoring.com.au [snoring.com.au]

      Tell me this 24/7 monitoring installation is not designed to monitor people snoring..?!?

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    3. Re:And once in a while, have a drill by lewko · · Score: 1

      Hahaha.... It's a relative's website and I should probably update my .sig which dates back to the nineties before it could even be considered Google bait.

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  123. We *fixed* the self-destruct mechanism! by billstewart · · Score: 1

    A couple of decades ago, I worked on the bottom right-hand screen in that NOC, which you can't see from the angle that picture was taken at, and later on a couple of desktop systems. When we were developing the applications that ran on the desktops, they weren't yet production systems, they were data collectors running in a lab where they had easy access to lots of internal databases and we could reconfigure them easily, because it was really a system designed to give the network planning whatever network data they needed . When we first deployed them on the NOC floor, because some of them had found our data to be useful, we still used the departmental system as the data collector. Which was fine until the day somebody plugged in *two* coffee pots for a party, and the system informed us that our lab didn't really have a production-quality electrical system :-) (Then we got to go buy some new servers and have people run long cables for us.)

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  124. 1 major requirement by delvsional · · Score: 2, Informative

    On every screen there needs to be something that indicates that the screen isn't frozen. Like a ticking clock or something. You don't want to find out 5 minutes late that something is going on. We have a 4 position ticker in the general style of a clock for our DCS. If nothing is changing how do you know that the screen isn't frozen?

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    1. Re:1 major requirement by lewko · · Score: 1

      Believe it or not, you have just created a valid reason to have a spinning company logo visible. Until now, it was kitsch. Now, it's a feature!

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    2. Re:1 major requirement by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Who says it can't be something useful, like a moving graph or scrolling text console for...whatever it is you're managing?

      My home server has a big gkrellm bar on its desktop showing graphs for CPU and memory usage, network traffic levels, disk activity, etc and sliding gauges for disk usage and other things that's don't change quickly. Although it has no monitor so I only see it when I VNC in every once in a while.

      The article says "central monitoring facility" so we don't know what it's for, but unless it's mall security or something really dull like that there should be some constantly changing information worth showing.

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    3. Re:1 major requirement by lewko · · Score: 1

      The important information is already displayed on screen.

      I was discussing delvisional's idea with the team. We already have a news ticker and 'message of the day' type scroller planned. Someone suggested a scrolling Twitter feed, for 'motivational messages' from friends, family etc.

      I suspect it will last five seconds, but it could be fun.

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  125. Really big "MOD UP" for ergonomics person by billstewart · · Score: 1

    Yeah. People need to be able to sit comfortably, and need to be able to see whatever screens they need to see without eyestrain or neck strain.

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    1. Re:Really big "MOD UP" for ergonomics person by multicsfan · · Score: 1

      Go to a real office furniture company and get good chairs. don't go to Walmart, Officemax, Staples, etc. Back in 1995 I spent $600 to buy a heavy duty 24/7 office manager's chair. It came with a 12 year warranty. The chair is still in use.

      I'd also suggest a comfy cot/lazy-boy/ez chair. I'm assuming there are multiple people on duty all the time. This allows one at a time to take a break away from the monitors.

      You should make sure everyone can take a 10 minute break out of every hour to rest their eyes.

  126. Television, depending on what your NOC does by billstewart · · Score: 1

    A couple of decades ago, I got to work on the AT&T NOC in New Jersey. One of the important things they had there was a pair of large television screens, which initially both played CNN, and eventually (when the local cable TV network got it) the Weather Channel. When you're running a world-wide network, or even a US-wide network, it really helps to know what's happening out in the real world that might affect you. Hurricanes and blizzards were the most relevant, but if something bit happened that got lots of people to make phone calls to a given geographical area, that could be important because it made a big impact on our calling patterns.

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    1. Re:Television, depending on what your NOC does by billstewart · · Score: 1

      Bedminster NJ.

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  127. Re:Make it Functional, But install a Cool-Mode But by masdog · · Score: 1

    I think Microsoft already thought of that. It's called Alt-Tab.

  128. Put a tablet on the table. by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 1

    Also, start looking into alternative workstations - investigate iPads and other tablets. Most monitoring and maintenance software is web-based these days, no reason not to surf your network from a comfy couch or worktable. Keep standard workstations for heavy lifting - stuff that requires a lot of typing or multiple displays.

  129. Tintable glass and conferencing areas by Net0ps · · Score: 1

    All of the solutions thus far are terrific, and I heartily endorse both the purchasing of really, REALLY nice furniture and the installation of as much free food and caffeinated (and non-caffeinated!) beverage solutions as possible to support the staff. Also, pack a storage room with some simple folding cots, surplus Army blankets, and washable pillows: during multi-day emergency response ops (we did one a few years ago for a snowstorm), the ability to tap out and take a nap for a bit will be highly prized. Remember to provide space for said nap, (optionally) earplugs/eye-masks for getting to sleep, and a laundry service to make sure everything gets sanitized after use.

    Something that I considered quite intelligent for the secure monitoring facilities at work was the use of electronically-tintable glass for all of the viewing windows into the SOC. There will be times when your staff are working frantically on an emergency just as a tour group is coming through, and the last thing you want is anyone worrying about what's visible and what isn't and whether any of that is sensitive. It's far easier for the tour guide to see the red light next to the door and the glass tinted and explain that the SOC is in lockdown right now than it is to explain why an employee is viewing hacker sites with porn popups in order to snag extra information on the current worm.

    Another good step was the installation of a large conference room right next to the SOC, with a full videoconferencing solution built into the room and table. When the excrement hits the spinning blades, one of the first things the executives like to do is open a bridge call to keep everyone updated. By making the videoconference (with individual mics at each seat at the boardroom table) in a room adjacent to the SOC *but not actually inside it,* the SOC employees are free to continue working without listening to the executive blather, but are easily able to pop out to the conference room and update the execs or just jump on the call from their desks to pass in update information. Even just a separate large conference room with a board-room table, speaker phones, and a projector/videoconference system (I like an HDTV with cable feed and a Mac mini with a good mic and camera for a quick solution) would be fine.

    Finally, since you mentioned monitoring physical security systems like fire and patrols, you should look at some of the Radio-to-VoIP gateway solutions out there. That will enable field techs and patrol officers to communicate easily with the SOC without requiring separate radio comms setups, and you'll be able to write scripts to automatically notify them of issues by sending text-to-speech updates via their radios.

  130. How the biggest power grid does it. by Animats · · Score: 1

    Here's a good example of an important control room. Generation 101: How PJM Operates and Dispatches. This is the control room that controls the power grid for the eastern United States. The presentation covers what the people there do. The slide "Dispatch Operations" shows the operating positions, and the next slide shows a more recent picture since the displays were upgraded.

    This is a very organized operation. There are five positions, and they have specific responsibilities. Each position has a number of screens of its own, and the positions are placed close to the big wall screens most relevant to them. The transmission operator is in front of the transmission screens, the generation operator is in front of the generation screens. Those are the two people who directly run the grid. The shift supervisor, master coordinator, and reliability engineer sit further back on a raised level. There's a viewing gallery in back, behind windows, where visitors can watch but can't bother anybody. Interestingly, there are curtains for closing off the viewing windows, and they're on the control room side.

    If you want to see some of the displays they are looking at, the data is available in Flash format. There's a economic system involved in power generation, with bids for power, so all the market players have to be able to see the data. The interaction between the control room and the bidders is complex. The control room does have the option of ordering "non-economic operation", where they tell generators what to do instead of merely sending price signals, but they only do that in emergencies. In more serious emergencies, they can order "conservative operation", which means all generators come on line and provide power to meet the load, regardless of cost. That's very rare.

    Note that this is an operating center, not a response center. There's a routine workload. Over the course of a day, generators are started up and shut down as the load changes. The two people in front mostly handle that. The three people in the back row are there mostly to deal with problems as they come up. The physical layout reflects that. A data center or a security monitoring center has a completely different workflow, and may need a completely different physical layout.

  131. Build a gigantic aquarium!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A nautical themed noc would be soo cool. Screens with fishes swimming around represent monitored objects. Fast fishes mean lots of data and slow fishes mean not so much data. Upside down fishes mean whatever the fish represents is toast.

    Blend MRTG style graphs over the fishes skin textures.

    Big fishes can have a bunch of little fishes following them to represent a constellation of related objects.

    Fish tanks with dirty water mean the hvac and or power distribution system is screwed up.

    Fish tanks with cracked glass and water pouring out means the server room is currently being flooded.

    The presence of electric eels electrocuting a fish means a PSU is crowbaring.

    Fishes that appear cramped and unhappy in their fish tanks mean disk space is low.

    With this setup you'll be able to respond in a moments notice whenever something fishy occurs.

  132. Make it as simple as possible and no simpler! by JuzzFunky · · Score: 1

    I've been reading through lots of the posts here and there seems to be quite a few instances where people have spent a lot of time and money designing systems that ultimately don't get used. My suggestion is this: Start simple. Get a working system up and running and do it with budget to spare. Once your team has been using it for a while ask them what they want.

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  133. Projectors by Shifty0x88 · · Score: 1

    Having at least 2 Projectors each capable of running either the same or different desktops can be very nice. you could even have them set up to their own computers or better yet to a giant kvm switch so anyone's computer can be displayed for everyone to see. break rooms/vending machines/gyms are nice, and lockers are even better to store everything for work in. ever consider a simple courtyard with a few benches?? might be nice to relax for a few or to have lunch under a tree or a cig. i'm not a fan of particle board walls, so keep it open with lower walls if any to separate desks. I find that sometimes having multiple people working at one desk can inspire more collaboration and creativity if they work tightly together.(based on projects, not personality) Just my 2 cents....

  134. So much is wrong here by Peter+(Professor)+Fo · · Score: 1
    Firstly : NO you don't have to do it once and have it set in stone. The business requirements will be changing all the time. So you must plan for change the only way you know how and that's expect to make alterations as you go.

    Secondly : NO - do not put all your eggs in one basket. Keep the bunker as stand-by short-term fall-back. Not only is this your resilience (including all those system changes that cause grief) but you can also run training exercises down there without impacting on the normal system. Also spending a short time in the bunker helps people focus on issues, objectives and methods a lot more - which counts when there is 'an emergency'.

    Thirdly : A secure but non-hardened environment is much cheaper, 'normal' and easier to alter than a bunker. It is FAR better to give people the tools they need to manage the everyday noise and have the necessary grades of experience of staff (=quantity) to learn the practicalities under supervision than to lock a apprentice in a box with flashing lights and coloured buttons hoping that they will not make too many mistakes.

    1. Re:So much is wrong here by lewko · · Score: 1

      Firstly : NO you don't have to do it once and have it set in stone.

      YES, we do and it will be literally set in stone. Once the design is in place, the concrete to be poured will make many alterations, such as new external cabling, venting or ducting next too impossible.

      A secure but non-hardened environment is much cheaper, 'normal' and easier to alter than a bunker.

      Yes. Except we need....a bunker, so as much as I'd like to run the operation out of our local Starbucks, that is not an option. Nor is using the bunker only on special occasions.

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    2. Re:So much is wrong here by vlm · · Score: 1

      YES, we do and it will be literally set in stone. Once the design is in place, the concrete to be poured will make many alterations, such as new external cabling, venting or ducting next too impossible.

      He's talking about changes like workload, products, procedures, markets. A company can move pretty dramatically over the lifetime of "concrete" and that'll have staggering impact on the design (or at least on the success) of a NOC. You need to be able to reconfigure, at least a little.

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    3. Re:So much is wrong here by lewko · · Score: 1

      vlm,

      Contact me offline please.

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  135. Colors by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

    You really have to think about what colors you want on the walls. Color psychology is quite true.
    If you want your people to be quick on reflexes, choose red walls. The downside is: there may be some increased aggression and a lot of testosterone.
    If you want them to make the best informed decisions possible, albeit a bit slower you should choose green. It will also lower testosterone levels quite a bit. It would, however, lower their ability to react fast in the event of an emergency because they think a bit longer and deeper.

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  136. You need a football table! by Bilestoad · · Score: 1

    Really, a football table. Like soccer. You may not like to watch it on TV but it's an excellent way to blow away some cobwebs and unlike most games you do it standing up.

  137. We had a Command Center, now it's all virtual by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

    My company used to have a true Command Center approach, with a fancy multi-level desk featuring rows of PCs on the bottom and screens for each on the upper shelves, redundant power, fire suppression, hot line phones, monitors to display all the security cameras, and of course electronic locks on the doors to restrict access.

    It worked well for a while. We used this setup to process truly massive amounts of data and trouble-shot some amazing stuff. But after a while hardware goes obsolete or dies.

    That whole room and a mirrored facility in another state have all been replaced with virtual machine versions of the same systems. The secure room isn't needed because the actual VMs themselves live in much smaller secured server rooms. The workers running the VMs work in normal cubes you'd see in any office, albeit with an extra screen to help juggle more than one thing at a time.

    The old secure room is now just a break room.

    We have found that virtualizing everything has massively reduced our hardware spending and issues, because VMs don't typically suffer from the same kinds of wear and tear and dust bunnies and the like. Uptime has gone from days to years, on Windows stuff, not linux. Part of that is via better hard drives and some redundancy. Basing things on dedicated servers versus scattershot hardware has also reduced the load on our IT team.

    On the productivity side, it has the added benefit of letting workers VPN in and control the same systems they can run from their desks. The VPN works anywhere there's an internet connection. I've run the show from a tethered cell phone, wifi I borrowed, or from my home internet the same as if I was there. OK, yes, you can VNC or remote desktop too, but those interfaces are usually somewhat different than the "real thing" people use every day. With a VM, the VM is the real thing and works the same no matter which client viewer is being used. There is no obstacle to doing the same work the same familiar way.

    I'll be spending my Labor Day doing that for at least part of the time.

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  138. Don't do it yourself, get a pro by malbrech · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I have seen so many cases where people think they can do interior design themselves, and get it all wrong. I am not talking about decorating your bathroom. I am talking about functional, human friendly spaces where people need to spend working time.

  139. Watch your lighting angles. by Stormbringer · · Score: 1

    "Glass cubicle walls will cut down on noise like a cubicle would, but does not give as much of the feeling of being in a box as standard cubicles. They allow unobstructed view of the video-wall and you can write on them with grease pens."

    They also allow an unobstructed view of things you really don't want to stare at such as bright lights.

    My experience is from the dev cubicle floor, not a NOC, but it applies at least as much to monitoring a screen or screens as to staring through the screen into the code-realm. Bad placement plus a low ceiling meant that I had a bright fluorescent fixture showing just above the cubicle corner. I tried sunglasses, moving the monitor, etc. and ended up roofing that corner of the cube with cardboard, just so I didn't have that light stabbing my eye while I was trying to dive into my code. Glass cubes will exacerbate this into a no-escape situation. Nobody's going to want to keep staring at a view which is actually painful.

    Even if you don't go with glass, before you sign off on that build, have a short person and a tall person test out every station for glare within scope of view. Be prepared to hood some of those lights to keep them out of people's eyes.

  140. Bad timing for security by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    Right now, most security equipment is NTSC video; which means low resolution, crap recordings. But HD is here -- it's just that the multichannel DVRs and switches and so forth aren't really taking over from the crap NTSC stuff the way they should, even though it's been a couple years now. The difference between video and HD for security is *amazing*. I'm still stuck with video, and we've had a couple of incidents where the video should have helped... but you just can't make out details worth spit. With HD... whole 'nuther ball game -- we've got one HD monitor / recorded I cobbled up. It's amazing. Did I mention NTSC video sucks? Yeah. Sucks.

    If I were you, I'd tell your company to wait a few years. Seriously. Otherwise you're going to be on the trailing edge of basically crappy security gear -- everyone else's control center will have the good stuff, and you'll still be trying to expense off a zillion bucks worth of junk.

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    1. Re:Bad timing for security by lewko · · Score: 1

      Whatever gives you the idea that we plan to build and never develop thereafter?

      Hate to break it to you, but technology is continually advancing. You're getting all excited about HD or megapixel video. A few years ago, it was analytics. A few years before that, digital video recorders replaced tape. Whatever technology you deploy is obsolete almost immediately. That's why good security is about more than simply installing flashy boxes. It's a process.

      In any case, there's not a single camera system in the mainstream, HD or otherwise, which can't be defeated by.....a Hat and sunglasses. It's only a single link in the chain.

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    2. Re:Bad timing for security by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Whatever gives you the idea that we plan to build and never develop thereafter?

      Why, nothing. You having fun with that strawman? Did you get the optional vibrator attachment?

      In any case, there's not a single camera system in the mainstream, HD or otherwise, which can't be defeated by.....a Hat and sunglasses.

      You're entirely missing the point of video surveillance. It tells security many useful things other than just faces. When, where, how, what - all of these can help *lead* to "who", not to mention assist with insurance claims, police inquiries, exoneration of people who would or might otherwise be suspect, and future risk amelioration. The more useful detail recorded, the better.

      [video is] only a single link in the chain.

      Yes, of course. Again with the strawmen. You collect these things? You know they're a fire hazard, don't you?

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  141. Right won't be simple. by sgtspacemonkey · · Score: 0

    After my experience in satellite control centers, I have seen both good and bad. Video Walls. are a cool idea, but not always practical. I won't explain to much, but as these systems not usually are pieced together based on requirements, thena bout version 3 or 4 they start to become usable as the user and complained enough. There is a lot more to consider in it all. Message me if you want more info, but there is so much info. Air handler placement alone can cuse problems. I now have a ringing in one ear. But if you do nothing else to talk to techs and users. (blurry eye tonight can't chase the typo's)

  142. Their own kitchen space. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't make them share kitchen space with other office workers in the same building. It's just not fair on anybody. Give them their own space and their own fridge/freezer, microwave and sink. I've worked in two companies where I had to share a kitchen with NOC/SOC staff and in my experience the night shifts and weekend shifts degrade into a dorm-room mentality where they think that it's okay to raid the freezer and leave 2 days of dishes in the sink. I'm pissed off of going to get my monday lunch and finding no clean dishes to heat it, or that my lunch disappeared over the weekend.

    1. Re:Their own kitchen space. by lewko · · Score: 1

      Not a problem. They have their very own toilet and kitchen facilities within the secure space.

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  143. It's all about the process by hcgpragt · · Score: 1

    You can create the greatest or cheapest control room and it will fail unless you known the process. The company, it's culture and it's people are not going to change (much) just by you building a control room.

    How are they handling crisis now?

    • Lot's of people discussing with each other? => big screens / whiteboards on the wall. open sight-lines from workspace to those walls.
    • The problem quickly gets broken down in lots of (parallel) bits which needs specialistic knowledge to solve? => fairly Isolated 4-screen work-places.

    What's the impact of a failure?

    • very public, broad impact => communication is essential => war/press-room with overviews and managers
    • Few large accounts => use your space / dollars for something else.

    It's not about chairs and monitors: it's about how a company is most effective. Using big bucks to create a control room is just a waste of money if you do not know how it is going to be used.

    Don't talk to us:talk to the people how are actually doing the crisis-handling at this very moment.

    1. Re:It's all about the process by lewko · · Score: 1

      Don't talk to us:talk to the people how are actually doing the crisis-handling at this very moment.

      Umm... Yeah. And a lot of those people (I used to be one) spend a lot of time on Slashdot.

      Thanks for the management consultant type advice, but if you referred to the dollar figures I've quoted thus far, perhaps you can give us just a little bit of credit? I mean, "Using big bucks to create a control room is just a waste of money if you do not know how it is going to be used."

      We are investing millions. Are you serious?

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    2. Re:It's all about the process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes I am serious,

      My reference point is less heavy duty: creating a dealing room. The business case was to go for all-ip which is cheaper. the top-down approach went further from that point on. It was a battle to create something at least as-good as the former situation.

      When you ask for advice, you sometimes do not get the advice you wanted. I invested some time in you and your problem and gave sound, albeit superficial, advice (from my perspective).

      I did not refer to any figures or tell you, you weren't doing the right thing. If you want that kind of advice, I am more thorough. I call it work. If you want me to work for you, then we talk credit...

  144. Re:Do Not Want by lewko · · Score: 1

    If you think I'm taking this too serious, then why did you get the idea you needed a bunker-like control room

    Because we don't have a choice in the matter. If we did, trust me, the place would have windows.

    Approved and escorted visitors are not a threat.

    Others who we don't fully trust e.g. prospective clients, can view via CCTV or an observation deck, both controlled by the operators.

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  145. Re:Hire an experienced architect or interior desig by lewko · · Score: 1

    I hear you. This post (which I am *thrilled* made it to the front page) is largely to obtain a second opinion for what we've been advised by 'experts', who ultimately aren't spending their own money, they're spending ours.

    Trench advice greatly appreciated.

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  146. Consultants and architects by sotweed · · Score: 1

    I don't want to cast aspersions (or worse!) on your experts, but in my experience most of those
    people (especially architects) never go back to see how what they built is working out, what they did
    wrong, what could be improved in their next project, etc. I'm sure there are some who do, but it certainly
    is not standard practice, so you're wise to ask the slashdot crowd for real experience.

    1. Re:Consultants and architects by lewko · · Score: 1

      Thank you, although it's obvious that a number of those (usually with the strongest opinions) seem to have worked in a secure underground bunker known as their parents' basement...

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    2. Re:Consultants and architects by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      secure underground bunker known as their parents' basement...

      It's a command center!

      - Warlock

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    3. Re:Consultants and architects by lewko · · Score: 1

      It puts the lotion on its skin...

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  147. Some advice by titten · · Score: 1

    Having participated in designing control rooms, and been dependent on the people actually doing the monitoring, it's safe to say that I know how NOT to do this.
    First of all, I was hoping you're not doing a show-piece. Making a functional control room that doubles as a way to show how cool you are doesn't really mix. I've seen this done a few ways.

    First, there is the adjacent room with glass windows to the control room. Highly disturbing for the people doing the monitoring. Then, the one way mirror. Even more disturbing, as you get paranoid after a while. Lastly, video surveillance. Not doing any wonders for the people working in the control room either.

    Not knowing what you're monitoring, or the workload, this is usually a job that requires a lot of concentration. Ideally, there should always be more than one person there. If something bad happens (the reason why you have monitoring in the first place), you don't want people panicking. Having seen the same old alarm for the 200th time, there could be a tendency to ignore it. Being able to consult with someone at 3 AM (other than the person on-call), is important.

    While it's nice to see everything in full working order, the important thing is to make people notice if there's something wrong. (Even better, early warnings before things go bad.)
    You should have one large monitor showing things that have gone wrong, and it should be the focal point in the room. If at all possible, make the system give a sound signal (or make the lights and/or monitors blink) to get your attention. The surrounding monitors can show how your systems are doing. You just don't want to miss that critical error. It's bad for you, your systems and your customers.

    You are going to depend on the monitoring equipment. Duplicate the systems, have all kinds of redundancy. You don't want to miss those important alarms because the monitoring system is down or unavailable. This means that you need people who can administer the system and modify it if you have equipment that is not supported by your monitoring software. These people will be vital in ensuring that all systems are monitored correctly.

    Guessing that the people in the control room won't have a deep knowledge about all the systems they are monitoring, you will have a number of people on-call.
    The two most annoying things for a person who is on-call are: false positives and missed positives. That's right, while you get grumpy about unnecessary wake-up calls, you get angry if there is a missed important alarm.

    I have worked with systems that have a very high number of real alarms, hundreds each day. The people in the control center will get reluctant to call for the 20th time that night. They will hope that the problem goes away, or they will deliberately misjudge alarms so they don't have to disturb the people on-call. This will escalate if you have a high degree of false positives.

    Finally, the last thing you will want to avoid is confusion. Keep short, up-to-date, easy to read instructions for each and every system. What is the check-list for every known system/alarm? Who do you inform? How do you inform them? How do you escalate a problem if the person on-call is not answering?

    So, not going into the discussion of which kind of soda/chair/toilet paper you will need, here is my list of advice:

      * Try to avoid making the control room a show-piece.
      * If possible, always have more than one employee in the control room.
      * Focus on catching alarms and problems.
      * Make audible or strong visual alarms if possible.
      * Do what you can to avoid down-time on the monitoring system.
      * Have personnel that can administer and modify your monitoring system.
      * Make sure that all systems are monitored, and monitored correctly.
      * Find a way to avoid false positives.
      * Don't ignore alarms.
      * Document all procedures.

    1. Re:Some advice by vlm · · Score: 1

      Finally, the last thing you will want to avoid is confusion. Keep short, up-to-date, easy to read instructions for each and every system.

      You forgot, easy to find. We have all that stuff, somewhere, on one of our three separately maintained intranet sites, randomly filed under tools, procedures, customers, lists, who knows what. No search function of course. It takes at least 15 minutes to find something. Of course you really need to respond within 5 minutes or so. Oh well. So its mostly used as a bludgeon tool for the endless monday morning quarterbacking / blamestorming / 20:20 hindsight sessions.

      This is a general systemic problem for all NOCs, so any design features that make it simpler to QUICKLY without the benefit of hindsight figure out what to do is great. Folks whom don't know, think the problem is just seeing, so you get useless videowalls and multiple tools monitoring the same thing equally poorly. The real delay is not seeing something up in red, but figuring out what to do about it. Procedure management is, in some ways, more important than monitoring.

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  148. Re:Bathrooms, Janitorial Services & Housekeepi by thegarbz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    2) Housekeeping & Janitorial

    Don't only think what, but also think how. There's nothing more fun than trying to solve a critical time sensitive problem to the background music of a noisy vacuum cleaner. The control room at our refinery has a novel remote compressor with some air ducting that runs under the floor to vacuum ports at the wall. Rather than drag a vacuum around the cleaner will come in with essentially the tube and handle, and plug that tube straight into the wall.

    The end result is the only part of the vacuum cleaner you hear is the person walking and the gentle sound of dust rolling up the pipe. While I have no hard stats on the results I'm sure this has saved not only the sanity of operators but also the lives of cleaning staff.

  149. Take a look inside TV production vehicles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a employee in the Danish television industries, I'm used to working in rooms with a lot of screens and a lot of comotion.

    See if you can get a chance to get a peek into a TV production lorry. They're made for this kind of thing.
    However, they may be a bit cramped - but just expand the idea.

    Cheers and good luck

  150. Re:Make it Functional, But install a Cool-Mode But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That could be the big red button!

  151. One question... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    Do we get consultancy fees for our opinions/expertise? This is a "massively expensive" commercial venture....

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    1. Re:One question... by lewko · · Score: 1

      Sure. How much would you like for that bit of pre-sales expertise?

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  152. Re:Make it Functional, But install a Cool-Mode But by MrNemesis · · Score: 1

    Funny? This should be +5 insightful.

    Our "control centre" at work was basically built by us and the network guys, money went on decent monitoring software and nice big hi-res screens, all controlled from a single workstation with three graphics cards (soon to be replaced by a single ATI); we cam in massively under-budget because, hey, form follows function. We were told to spend the rest of the money making it look more like a movie set, otherwise the directors wouldn't be impressed - so we spent a couple of hundred quid on halogens, one of our guys cooked up a homebrew COM-controlled lighting system and we now literally have a "panic button" where enter + scroll lock on the num pad turns off the main lights and kicks in a bunch of OpenGL screensavers full of pointless 3D bar charts, spectrum analysers (on a screen labelled "Continuous Raster Attenuation Particulates), random beeping noises. Most new techies that see it burst out laughing at the contrived stupidity of it all.

    The best bit? The eight hundred quid left over went a long way to paying for a whole bunch of delicious scotch at a bar around the corner as we got pissed and laughed our arses off. Biggest grin was from the slightly sozzled manager who smirked as he signed off the bar bill as a "consultancy fee". Fun times.

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  153. NCC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have such an control center. First of all, you need a centralised fault management tool, so that everybody can observe their own part of the system. Alternatives are Netcool, TeMIP, etc (there are many many more I am sure). You should have a screen as big as possible. Mitsubishi has some solutions. Putting on some fancy graphics that are updated every x minutes would be nice. Video wall is just for the show, it does not help anything. But it is really a show. You can open CNN to show that you are always watching the world :) Our solution is, room is always dark such as a cave. It is not nice but, in an illuminated room, big screen don't seem nice. You can make the operators desks so that all lines seem to be on large stairs. It makes the place like Houston control center.

  154. You are unbelievable! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have the chance to build a cool control room and what do you come up with? Some Lame TV-Show?

    Man, there is only one thing to do: Take a deep breath, put in the DVDs and build the freaking bridge of a Star Destroyer!

    That you even have to ask is totally unbelievable!

  155. Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go for a Star Wars look, with the operators sitting in trenches, and the supervisors on a plateau above. Coolest ever!

  156. lewko is a troll from VA Linux Sytstems. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't correct anyone here. Slashdot is a failure non-nerd website now. They're trying to justify the existance of Slashdot by passing some lame stories and topic to discuss. Does anyone register to Slashdot anymore? Why register to see something a few minutes in advance? As far as we know, 'lewko' is just another troll like Roland Piquepaille.

  157. It's already been said but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll repeat it for effect. Go tour the CR for utility or rail. They do it right.

  158. Don't overwhelm the prisoners by mnemotronic · · Score: 1
    • Break up the view or landscape so that it doesn't appear to be a warehouse of machines and their insignificant biological support systems.
    • Make it quiet. No hums, noisy computer fans, or HVAC blowers.
    • Clean air. Filtered and disinfected (UV?) to eliminate Legionnaires-type organisms.
    • Full-spectrum task lighting. NOT a lot of overhead softwhite fluorescent tubes.
    • Ergo workspaces - Really good chairs, correct keyboard placement, good displays.
    • Absolutely no "motivational" posters!
    • No speakerphones or music on speakers in the main work area. Speaker and conference phones are only allowed in enclosed offices.

    I guess smoking should be mandatory, and the armed guards should have the option of using rubber bullets. Oh, and robots! Lots of autonomous killer robots!

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  159. I second / third / whatever the fake windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've worked in the industry for a while. In the 90's even helped a big multinational write some software for their NOCs...

    Most of the NOCs I've been in have been real caves. No windows, subdued lighting, big video walls.

    Try to use indirect lighting as much as possible, don't make it harsh etc... one of the best ways to do this is to use fake windows. There are companies that will install a lightpipe; basically, there's a lens / collector on the roof, a reflective tube through the building, and a frosted glass skylight or window in the room. It has the advantage of being extremely green, and follows natural lighting cycles.

    A more traditional approach is to simply install a full spectrum light behind the window 'facade'.

    At the company I'm at now, we run a 3-4 man NOC... and have at least 15 screens lol! Generally, at each station, at 'desk' level there's a standard CRT, then at standing eye level there's a larger plasma displaying a visualization of some component of NOC operations. One might be VPN geographic status (think big map with red and green blinkies), another is system status (think big list of servers with red and green blinkies) and so on... then, above that and visible throughout the center, is a larger screen showing either a rotation of all the other visualizations or highlighting the critical issue du jour. As others have noted, it's the software that matters. Get or build the right software to monitor correctly. With the right software, this setup has the advantage of being very visually appealing, as well as functional. Our NOC looks out on our server room, so we installed the equipment in the same cabinets we use in the server room, just the half height models above the desktops. The company we get them from sells glass and smoked glass doors (we use smoked glass for the upper screens to cut down on ambient glare), and will even silk screen our logo on the doors for us... 3 name or logo changes over 7 years, and every time we've shipped the doors back to them to have the names scraped off and reapplied!

  160. HAHAHA SHUTUP. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That man pro'ly got more pussy rubbing on his walls just because of all that he did when this was reported on Slashdot like back in 20.1.2008.

    He could go out and buy any kind of peice of shit Recreational Vehicle, rip-out the interior of that RV
    down to the bare walls, then throw all his apartment inside to make the most awesome roaming landcraft that
    money could buy.

    ENGAUGE!

  161. sharks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sharks with frickin' lasers!

  162. Hints by notany · · Score: 1

    Best way to get everything right is to order desingn from company that specializes for control room design. Yokogawa is pretty good.

    Special suggenstions for computer hardware:

    - Monitors from Eizo. They just make the best monitors for control rooms, medical imaging, etc. http://www.eizo.com/global/
    - Matrox graphic cards are really good for control rooms. It's their specialty and they exel in it. You can get multi monitor worstations that are silent http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/

     

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  163. Re:Bathrooms, Janitorial Services & Housekeepi by vlm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If Solid Snake could hide in a janitors cart not a cardboard box - he'd go anywhere.

    In my unfortunately extensive experience with this over the decades, the problem is not so much James Bond sneaking in, its "trash bags" full of laptops and HDTVs sneaking out. Even in the "best cities". Everythings gotta be locked down, even/especially in a security theater environment. And all employees need at least one lockable drawer for their purse, cellphone, spare change, insulin syringes, whatever.

    You really need to understand what security theater is before you plan your "cool security system". Good security can be annoying, so sometimes people do the security theater thing and install annoying things mistakenly thinking that must make it secure. All the biometric hand scanner, card reader, and DNA sampler will do is annoy the janitor as he hauls his bag-o-laptops out the door.

    The worst thing you can do is contract out the janitor to a random collection of temporary illegals. Then anyone can/will just walk in, block the door open, empty the offices, and no one thinks it odd. At least if you have a direct employee, at least HR had a chance to screen them and at least one person on site might know whom they are full access to the entire facility.

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  164. Human factors engineering by Don+Philip · · Score: 1

    Most of the time, when such a project is undertaken, technical and technological factors get the first, and often the only, priority. What is left out is the human factor–how people with interact with, and use, the environment. There has now been considerable work done on this by human factors engineers. So before doing anything else for your control room, read Kim Vincente's book, "The Human Factor", especially the parts where he deals specifically with control rooms. Making the correct human factors decisions can reduce accidents and deaths resulting from poor design choices.

    Reference: Vincente, K. (2003). The Human Factor. Revolutionizing the way people live with technology. Canada: Alfred A. Knopf. Amazon: http://www.amazon.ca/Human-Factor-Revolutionizing-Live-Technology/dp/0676974902/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283779722&sr=1-1

  165. Re:Make it Functional, But install a Cool-Mode But by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

    I think Microsoft already thought of that. It's called Alt-Tab.

    Ok, so instead of having to tell your visitor "it's OK for them to be checking out Slashdot because they're off-duty at the moment", you'll have to explain him "it's ok for us to run a Microsoft OS, because despite its appearance, this place is not really controlling a nuclear power station (or rocket launch, or ...)"

  166. pros and pros by Tristfardd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is a lot good advice posted. Much depends on the operations that will take place in the room. Most control rooms have daily cycles consisting of the day shift with maintenance working on things and interacting with the operators, a swing shift where things quiet down, and a graveyard shift that consists of long hours of quiet and talk among the operators to pass the time. When a process upset or emergency occurs the operators must respond quickly, but with a well-run process upsets don't happen very often.

    I have spent too much of my life in control rooms, paper industry and power plant. Control rooms existed before computers, consisting of expanses panels of controllers and switches. Since there were so many controls, at least half of them could only be reached by standing. The operators were trim and in good shape. They frequently spent their time sitting down because there was nothing to do, then immediately came to their feet when action was required. Humans function much better standing up. They think better and it is best for them physically, the two go hand in hand. Many control displays work by touch. Proper display design is an elite craft. Arrange the displays so that normal operator input occurs standing and dealing with the display at eye level. People will object that keyboard input is required and keyboards have to be horizontal. I don't know your processes, but the vast majority of keyboard interactions involve display selection, alarm interaction, and numerical entry (setpoints, etc.). Sometimes tags get typed, it isn't frequent or common and almost always results from bad display design. Anyway, numerical entry can easily be handled by a vertical keypad. It certainly doesn't need to be horizontal. Display selection should primarily be handled through the displays, using proper design. Alarm interaction needs its own small keypad beneath the numerical one. In the future, voice recognition will be used with the displays, but right now it would be a gimmick.

    By the way, my company provides simulations for operator training. Contact me if you are interested. Start-ups, shutdowns, upsets, alarms, tags, etc. All the usual suspects.

  167. Show it off for your clients by Cytotoxic · · Score: 1

    To show it off you can take a tip from the NAP of the Americas. They have a large conference room immediately behind the operations center with the adjoining wall being entirely "snap glass" lcd panels. Super-cool effect for showing off the ops center with all of its high-tech video monitoring equipment. Touch a panel on the wall and the fourth wall of the room immediately becomes clear to show the ops center with all of the cool network traffic monitors, etc. Touch it again and the wall goes white.

    FWIW, I highly recommend taking the tour there. Standing next to the pair of terabit routers that feed the root servers for ICAAN and Verisign is pretty cool. They don't really look any different than any other large router chassis, but c'mon, it is a terabit router at the top of the internet. Ok, maybe you have to be a nerd to appreciate that... Even more geek-cool is the "data exchange" where you can get on to the Internet at full wire speed for cheap. Just toss a cat-6 cable over the wall and plug in to the routers: boom, gigabit connection right into the backbone of the Internet. Pretty much every major and minor Internet provider has a presence in the exchange, and they have zero last-mile costs so you get really competitive pricing. And since all of the undersea cables terminate there, you are basically one hop away from most of South America and several places in Europe. It is pretty cool to see a route trace that shows 3 hops between you and a server on another continent. Or to ping any major search engine and get sub-millisecond ping times (because that's one of their server farms, right down the hall there...).

  168. Inspiration by boyfromthenorth · · Score: 1

    A Swedish company called Banhof can perhaps give you some inspiration. They have monitoring and servers in an old nuclear safe bomb shelter in Stockholm. Well worth a look. Pictures: http://www.bahnhof.se/pionen/gallery/ Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwlATf9xse4 http://bahnhof.se/video/movie1.mp4 http://bahnhof.se/video/movie2.mp4

  169. AV-related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make it easy to use and work every time.

    Crestron DigitalMedia for switching
    Crestron DVPHD-PRO (or DVPHD-CUSTOM-GB for annotation) for windowing/scaling
    (Extron has equivalents for both of these but I can't vouch for their ease of use)
    Runco WindowWall to maybe fake some windows and keep sanity. Others have mentioned plants and other creature comforts - if you don't feel like you're in a cave you'll be a little more comfortable for a longer period of time.
    Baswaphon or some other acoustic apsorption to keep the chatter and clicking from being heard all over the place
    Light light light. 6500K light might be 100% neutral depending on who you ask, but never looks natural. Go for a warmer color if possible.

  170. Re:Bathrooms, Janitorial Services & Housekeepi by turtleshadow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In my experience employers that directly or indirectly turn a blind eye, ie who hire against national/local labor policies, already have deep problems anyhow. I wouldn't work nor recommend anyone work for such businesses.

    For legit businesses, most housekeeping staff I've known are decent hard working folks often looked down upon by the Management and IT guys if even recognized at all. Most won't steal nor want to be implicated because it costs them their job or the contract instantly. No investigation period.

    I brought the fact they block open the doors from my experience of having to account for disabled door alarms and other bypasses to areas meant to contain sensitive customer info. Its a real problem solvable by having shredders & screen savers internally to the command center.

    In my experience its the "entitled" IT that typically steal. What happened to the old parts locked up in some drawer from all that upgrading last month? Its now in somebody's home system or ebay'd without a trace.

    As for low skill employee, contractor petty theft (phones, change, purses) that is an entirely different realm of security.

    However being wiped out of laptops and HDTVs either in one fell swoop (stupid criminals who have to fence a big score) or trickling them out (smarter but still stupid criminals who open up an opportunity for surveillance) is not the issue.

    The financial loss is not the IT management concern. Equipment should already in plan to be replaced and insurance covers real theft.

    However explaining to management the downtime, that the laptops went out the door without encrypted partitions, that the serial numbers of equipment were never inventoried is a bigger theft -- IT guys ought to know this as stock and trade and if they were paid big money for no real work -- this is basically ripping off the stockholders/owners. IT & management took "big" money for not doing basic diligence in their work.

    Anyhow most every large building has a door -- the smokers door -- that never latches and just needs a few tugs or leverage to pop open. Its just a matter of observation and turning doorknobs. I'm sure the building rent-a-cop does that right?

    Those criminals that try to score used electronics probably already need rehab. Else want to fence them for cash for getting presents for the wife or girlfriends.

    No criminal retires on the fortune accrued by stolen used electronics from a business.

    If they were organized they would hijack a trailer headed to bestbuy or frys and live well for a few months or 1/2 a year.

  171. Water Feature by mjh2901 · · Score: 1

    Not just a little fountain something of significant size with a good amount of falling water. The extra natural moisture in the air makes the air smell better and is easier to breath, than simply recycled AC with a humidifier. It helps regulate the temp a little. Also lots of plants. And when people talk about good lighting use natural color balanced light, or more simply florescent fixtures known as grow lights. And make sure maintanence isn't allowed to cheap out on replacement bulbs later on and switch your staff back to cheap standard flourescent when bulbs get changed out. Or your hard work is for knot.

  172. alertness by jrvz · · Score: 1
    I recommend you find a copy of "The 24 Hour Society" by Martin Moore-Ede and read closely about the nine factors that determine alertness. Then design for them. For example:
    • Refuse to install "subdued lighting", no matter how cool your manager thinks it looks. If somebody complains about washed-out displays, then install brighter displays.
    • Put the processors outside the control room if possible. A steady drone tends to put people to sleep, and it's hard to talk over.
    • Set the temperature a little on the cool side.
    • Another poster wanted restrooms on the same level. I'd say they should certainly be handicapped accessible, but for most of us climbing a flight of stairs now and then is a good way to wake up.

    If there's a possibility of a crisis that will call for flat-out effort for days on end, I'd suggest:

    • A place to crash, with cots and showers. It turns out people can get by on only two or three hours/day of sleep, if it's in the form of 20 to 30 minute naps every four hours. (That's in Moore-Ede's book, too.)
  173. Do you want a workhorse, or a shiny toy? by Geminii · · Score: 1

    I've seen Ops Centers installed by professionals which were worse than useless. Sure, they were big and plush and shiny, and had a large glass partition behind them so that the executives could be walked past it and be impressed (which was probably a big clue), but they were manned by the collected deadwood of the enterprise and despite all their super-modern network-wide monitoring gear, they were usually the last ones to know about any outages.

    In daily use, they usually ran a bunch of sports channels on the big screens and just sat there drooling for their entire shift. If it hadn't been for the fact that in one case, management had forcibly relocated the Network team to the little minibunker next door and demanded all calls to Networks go through the fancy Center, the rest of I.T. would most likely have just quietly cut them out of the phone network altogether and no-one would have been the wiser.

    For what was paid for these places, they could have hired a warehouse, SFX team, and a bunch of actors for the one day a year the executive walked past the glass window and peered into the zoo, and come out way ahead.

  174. Watson Furniture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work in a 24/7 911 police, fire, and ems dispatch center. We just built a new center and used Watson Furniture for adjustable position consoles, check out their site at www.watsondispatch.com , lots of options as far as desk size, configuration, # of monitors, etc. I was on the design team and we basically gave them the dimensions of our room, number of consoles we needed, equipment used, and they were able to draft up a number of options complete with 3d drawings.

  175. "Monitoring" what? by rlseaman · · Score: 1
    1. You don't describe what is being monitored, or what sorts of response actions might be taken. The design will vary depending on the answers.
    2. A lot of the replies assume staffing by low level employees. The staff of the control rooms at CERN or at astronomical telescopes will be almost exclusively PhDs. The staff for a military installation will be very diverse and span many levels of responsibility, while the staff for a call center may only have two levels - the person in charge and everybody else.
    3. Design for second order effects. How rapidly will the technologies in the room evolve? How often will the business functions expand (or contract)?
    4. Design for maintenance. It should be possible to update one station at a time without unduly disturbing the other humans or machines in the room. Whatever the lighting - how much trouble will it be to change bulbs and tubes? Who cleans and on what schedule?
    5. How will the transition be handled to the new facility? Will it be possible to overlap operations with whatever facility is currently being used? Think about building two control centers in geographically diverse locations and switching primary control back-and-forth, daily, weekly, or monthly. Then the ability to switch one completely off will be automatically developed and maintained. What is the potential cost or liability of a sustained outage? Is it more or less than the cost of building and staffing two centers?
    6. You say 24/7. What does this mean? Is this one locale that works 24 hours like police or fire? Or is this a control room for operations scattered through multiple timezones?
    7. Don't forget clocks. 12 hour or 24 hour? Multiple locations with multiple daylight saving policies? Who will set the clocks? Don't assume that radio controlled clocks can be set and forgotten - they will mess up even worse with each DST change. If your control monitors operations in both the northern and southern hemispheres DST will move in opposite seasonal directions.
    8. Think about business functions that are not automated. How much will continue to require paper shuffling? Will there be printers and photocopiers, staplers and punches? Where will these be stationed? Who stocks the paper?
    9. Multiple language requirements?
    10. Static information? Wall maps? Reference books?
    11. Branding? Big shiny logo prominently placed?
    12. Rotating artwork displays can refresh the room with little expense.
    13. By all means worry about getting the infrastructure right, especially soundproofing, lighting, air conditioning, and "life support" in general, but the ultimate success of the venture will depend on whether you comprehend the actual workflow(s) and how they will need to evolve.
  176. Some Notes from an EOC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work as technical support in an Emergency Ops Center for one of the departments at a State level. We don't run 24/7/365 but we do 24/7 when we need to be up. The EOC built was a repurposing of an existing office space, but other than sticking with most of the walls we had we got to build from the floor up. Here are some of the things we did that seemed to have worked out well:

    1) Use a raised floor and/or drop ceiling. It's so much easier to run wires when you have some space to tuck them into.

    2) We've got (1) high intensity projector unit (no need to turn off lights) & a few wall LCDs (2 in main room, 3 in meeting rooms) connected to one computer with a couple multiple output cards. These seem to be enough for most of what we need to display to the room. Everything else people look at on their station computers. Figure out how much you need shared displays for and don't go overboard. At some points it's just information noise.

    3) Related to displays: It's not as much of a problem now, but LCDs over Plasmas if you're looking at long term use. I know EOCs that had monitor burn in or burn out after a year using plasmas. This is especially true on anything displaying news stations. Those ticker trackers are a killer.

    4) Good multi-monitor support software like Ultramon is a god send.

    4) Try to keep facility noise down. We've had to baffle our projector because the fan whine made it hard to hear in the seats under the projector.

    5) To support what has already been said, comfortable furniture is a must. Chairs are important. We use a chair that is supposed to be guaranteed comfortable & safe for 24 hours. They're not cheap and they have the 20-30 page instruction manual to prove it. They're also the most 'borrowed' piece of equipment in the building. Of equal value you need to look at desk height, monitor placement, desk/table alignment and the rest.

    6) Related to desks, put the computers out of the way. Due to an order error we got the wrong computers and we had to hang them. This became a big mistake and a lot of painful knees. Because of our purchasing process it was years before we could fix this.

    7) Also related, don't discount giving empty desk space. People need room to work.

    8) Move long discussions & meetings out of the main center. We've got (3) meeting rooms just off the EOC for these. Added so that participants can monitor the EOC, and rather than relying on high tech camera feeds, we put in windows and shades. They’re simple, inexpensive and don’t need much trouble shooting.

    9) The comments above on fruit & snacks & coffee are all very good suggestions. Food is a comfort.

    10) Make sure that you have enough people who know how things work and take the time to make things simple to work. Throwing tech at a problem is easy, but it takes time to find the right stuff & to put it together well so that you're common user doesn't need a 100 page manual to use it all.

    Things we might have changed:

    1) It might be nice to have a few standing workstations. Not necessarily for assigned positions but so that someone can use one for a while if they want to stand and stretch, or for people who just need to check one thing and then head out again.

    2) We put our IT closet & UPS units just off the EOC because there was a nice space there at a convenient distance. But once it was in we had to put in extra work for noise baffling. Try to put noisy equipment a few rooms down if you can.

    The best advice? Figure out your core functions for the room, ours was communications and information handling, and then build the room to facilitate this. Make sure people stay comfortable while they are using the equipment. Minimize distractions. And KISS, KISS, KISS.

  177. good control room resource by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    check out evansonline.com for some good ideas

  178. Re:Bathrooms, Janitorial Services & Housekeepi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyhow most every large building has a door -- the smokers door -- that never latches and just needs a few tugs or leverage to pop open.

    And that's exactly why you should let your staff smoke like chimneys while at their stations. C'mon, do we really think today's OSHA-pansy NASA could deal with a situation like Apollo 13? No way - real crises demand not just caffeine, but nicotine, too!

    After all, what's the point of a controlled access area if you can't violate a few local laws?

  179. Regarding video wall by mattr · · Score: 1

    For video wall you may want to consider Christie Microtiles which I'm learning about myself now. Command and Control is one of the main uses. The interesting part is that it is made of self-calibrating display "bricks" you can build into any shaped display you want. Each brick houses a long-life DLP projector with very high resolution and color reproduction. There is only 1 mm between bricks, and it is easily reconfigured. From what I have heard, the bricks sense each other so you do not have a long calibration session, it is a low maintenance setup.

  180. Don't let it turn into a dungeon! by whawk640 · · Score: 1

    Natural Lighting: Tubular Skylights
    Attached breakroom with a big screen with relaxing natural landscapes and playing soft music.
    Refrigerator stocked with (healthy?) snacks and beverages.

    These things will help improve the mood of your staff, and lower stress. They are cheap, easy ways to improve performance.