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Study Finds the Perfect Ratio of Attractiveness

Gksksla writes "Scientists in Australia and Hong Kong have conducted a comprehensive study to discover how different body measurements correspond with ratings of female attractiveness. The study, published in the Journal of Evolutionary Biology, found that across cultural divides young, tall and long armed women were considered the most attractive."

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  1. yummy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mmm... arms...

    1. Re:yummy... by Larryish · · Score: 1

      Pics or it didn't happen!

  2. Golden Ratio by C_Kode · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wasn't this already figured out by Ancient Greek mathematicians? :)

    1. Re:Golden Ratio by carrier+lost · · Score: 1

      Wasn't this already figured out by Ancient Greek mathematicians?

      Are you referring to that old "Angle of the dangle, mass of the meat something, something" calculation?

    2. Re:Golden Ratio by VolciMaster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wasn't this already figured out by Ancient Greek mathematicians?

      Are you referring to that old "Angle of the dangle, mass of the meat something, something" calculation?

      I always thought it was "heat of the meat"...

    3. Re:Golden Ratio by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Wasn't this already figured out by Ancient Greek mathematicians? :)

      Sorry to suck the fun out of the comment, but... no.

      The ratio of straight lines rarely has much to do with the female form.

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    4. Re:Golden Ratio by hierophanta · · Score: 1

      how about when they make a curve? like i dunno the Fibonacci spiral - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_sequence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

    5. Re:Golden Ratio by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Heh. What part of the chick looks like a ... actually I'm not sure why I'm asking that here.

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    6. Re:Golden Ratio by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      Golden? I got the ratio illustrated for you, right here:

      http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/badonk.jpg

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    7. Re:Golden Ratio by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      The ratio of straight lines rarely has much to do with the female form.

      Thank goodness!

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    8. Re:Golden Ratio by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Are you thinking about the Golden ratio?

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    9. Re:Golden Ratio by Joebert · · Score: 1

      The ratio of straight lines rarely has much to do with the female form.

      Unless it's the ratio of straight lines, to gay lines.

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  3. Forgot one by RealErmine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Young, tall, long armed and with huge... tracts of land.

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    1. Re:Forgot one by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>with huge... tracts of land.

      Believe it or not, some of us prefer small... um, tracts of land. We'd actually prefer small natural... tracts of land, rather than silicone enhanced... uh, tracts of land. If you catch my meaning.
      .

      >>>young, tall and long armed

      i.e. Thin.

      There's a tendency in this society (well US society anyway) to hate-on people with vicious comments like "too thin" or "skeletal" or "see-through" when in reality they have a perfectly healthy BMI index. (Between 18.5 and 23)

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    2. Re:Forgot one by toastar · · Score: 1

      >>>with huge... tracts of land.

      Believe it or not, some of us prefer small... um, tracts of land. We'd actually prefer small natural... tracts of land, rather than silicone enhanced... uh, tracts of land. If you catch my meaning. .

      >>>young, tall and long armed

      i.e. Thin.

      There's a tendency in this society (well US society anyway) to hate-on people with vicious comments like "too thin" or "skeletal" or "see-through" when in reality they have a perfectly healthy BMI index. (Between 18.5 and 23)

      Funny It used to be wide hipped lady's that used to consider attractive, Due to how many kids they could pop out.

    3. Re:Forgot one by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>It used to be wide hipped lady's that used to consider attractive

      That's still true. You've never seen a wide-hipped thin lady? They do exist.

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    4. Re:Forgot one by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Informative

      P.S. Here's a whole bunch of those THIN but still wide-hipped ladies:

      Warning: Naked europeans. Not recommended for prudes: http://www.domai.com/news/index.html

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    5. Re:Forgot one by IdolizingStewie · · Score: 1

      The article mentions hip-to-waist ratio as a strong indicator of attractiveness, so I'd say you're exactly right. And I speak as a wide-hipped thin lady (although missing the component up top to be a true hourglass figure, I've still never had any complaints.)

    6. Re:Forgot one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pics or it didn't happen.

    7. Re:Forgot one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BMI index

      Body Mass Index Index? What's that?

    8. Re:Forgot one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The sample base was pathetically small, I doubt ANY of the Chinese women had breasts bigger than a C cup, etc.etc.

      All bullshit as usual.

      We KNOW what is attractive - the most attractive women are seen in popular pornography (notice I said POPULAR, not 'pornography'). Milena Velba, for example, is quite short, but I'll bet that 90% of men would choose her as a highly attractive woman.

      Why aren't there loads of big breasted women in Hollywood and the controlled media's programmes? Because if there were, big breasted women wouldn't have to resort to pornography in order to make money/become famous...

      Ugly people are mutants. The more mutated from normality - i.e. beauty, the more ugly they are. (Note that 'normality' does NOT mean 'most common' or 'most prevalent', it means most natural.)

    9. Re:Forgot one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when in reality they have a perfectly healthy BMI index.

      Except that a "perfectly healthy BMI" for the vast majority of people isn't "perfectly healthy". Did you happen to miss that episode of Bullshit? Or did cognitive dissonance* kick in because that episode didn't fit with your preconceived notions?

      *Note to others, it may sound like flamebait, but Troll64 has themself been throwing around the cognitive dissonance card at people lately.

    10. Re:Forgot one by floodo1 · · Score: 1

      did you catch the episode of Bullshit where they said that all bottled water is just tap water? Where they completely ignored the fact that while the water does indeed come from "the tap" (typically the county water supply where the bottling plant is located), but it's not put straight into bottles as received. For example Pepsi treats their water with lime, then runs it through reverse osmosis before bottling it.

      Point is that Bullshit isn't exactly a good source of information.

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    11. Re:Forgot one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She made me promise that I wouldn't post the pics online... otherwise I would.

    12. Re:Forgot one by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Funny It used to be wide hipped lady's that used to consider attractive, Due to how many kids they could pop out."

      Err..we're talking about women you want to lay...NOT having kids?!!??!

      Ok, in the old days..you needed lots of offspring to help work the farm, but these days...not so much.

      I guess some people want them, but I'd rather not have an anchor on my life dragging down my finances and time for fun activities...like getting laid!!

      :)

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    13. Re:Forgot one by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      With large natural tracts of land, no less. The floppier the better!

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    14. Re:Forgot one by craash420 · · Score: 1

      Pass.

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    15. Re:Forgot one by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      Before I moved to Mars, I just didn't appreciate three-breasted mutants. Now that I'm stuck here, I wouldn't have it any other way.

    16. Re:Forgot one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It used to be wide hipped lady's that used to consider attractive

      That's still true. You've never seen a wide-hipped thin lady? They do exist.

      As Sir Mix-A-Lot artfully described them,

      when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
      And a round thing in your face
      You get sprung, wanna pull out your tough
      'Cause you notice that butt was stuffed

    17. Re:Forgot one by IdolizingStewie · · Score: 1

      If you're stalkerish enough to figure out who I am IRL from my comments I don't have my facebook pictures blocked. Unfortunately for you, the nice thing about being married is that I don't really give a flip whether you agree with his opinion or not.

    18. Re:Forgot one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Point is that Bullshit isn't exactly a good source of information.

      I guess I should add that, in addition to throwing around the "cognitive dissonance" card, Troll64 has also been throwing around Bullshit as a source. So I was throwing two things back in their face.

    19. Re:Forgot one by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      Actually BS is a good source of information, because they pointed-out YOU could do the same thing at home (filter the tap water) rather than waste money on bottled.

      Bottled water costs about $3 per gallon, whereas my home filter does the same job for only a 1-2 pennies.

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    20. Re:Forgot one by floodo1 · · Score: 1

      Really, the vast majority of people cannot treat water the same way that most bottling companies do. You surely aren't going to lime treat the water, and very few people have a reverse osmosis setup at home. I call bullshit on Bullshit.

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  4. Pssshhh... by mister_playboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Long arms? Give me a hourglass shaped babe with plenty of T&A, thanks. :)

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    1. Re:Pssshhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Any gal you marry will end up with plenty of A, no matter how much she starts with.

    2. Re:Pssshhh... by Surt · · Score: 1

      The point of the study seems to be that that's what you say, but not what you actually pick.

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    3. Re:Pssshhh... by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      I'm willing to say I'm an exception to the results, as I KNOW I prefer my women with some curves as opposed to skinny ones. Not really big girls, but I prefer the girls more in the 125-140 lbs range rather than the 100-115 lbs range.

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    4. Re:Pssshhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean tall and long armed weighting in at 125-140?

    5. Re:Pssshhh... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Any gal you marry will end up with plenty of A, no matter how much she starts with.

      Yeah, but after the first year or so, she isn't going to share it with you anyway, so what difference does it make?

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    6. Re:Pssshhh... by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 1
      WHOOOOOSH!

      I think the GP was calling the GGP an A...

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    7. Re:Pssshhh... by rthille · · Score: 1

      Slashdot needs a 'sad but true' moderation.

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    8. Re:Pssshhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally I prefer them with no legs or arms, and perhaps even mute. They can't get away or scream for help.

    9. Re:Pssshhh... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      A gf in college was in the 130-140 range. And 4'10".

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    10. Re:Pssshhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any gal you marry will end up with plenty of A, no matter how much she starts with.

      Just as any man a woman marries is going to wind up with a beer gut and boobs of his own?

      Two can play at this game, sir.

    11. Re:Pssshhh... by u235meltdown · · Score: 1

      The gal also gets another ass... the bloke she married.

    12. Re:Pssshhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any gal you marry will end up with plenty of A, no matter how much she starts with.

      Just as any man a woman marries is going to wind up with a beer gut and boobs of his own?

      Two can play at this game, sir.

      This is /. half of us already have beer guts and boobs.

  5. 36-24-36 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'nuff said.

    1. Re:36-24-36 by Vegemeister · · Score: 1

      What a winning hand!

  6. The perfect study by Big+Smirk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nice job.

    Next up, a study on perfect female breast size.

    "No ma'am, I'm not oogling you, I'm conducting a study"

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    1. Re:The perfect study by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      "Yes, I know beauty is only skin-deep; did you think I was admiring your lungs?"

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    2. Re:The perfect study by IllusionalForce · · Score: 0

      Let's not forget that feel is an important part as well. Happy "tripping," everyone.

    3. Re:The perfect study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beauty is only skin deep, but five thousand dollars is five thousand dollars.

  7. bad survey. by JWSmythe · · Score: 2, Informative

    God, yet another insignificant study without enough information.

        96 models, and a sample set of 94 (plus some number in the Hong Kong group).

        At least it leads to their site, which appears that it may do a better job at getting a good sample group.

        It, of course, can't take into account moods, personal history, etc. Like, the most beautiful woman in the survey could look just like my exgirlfriend/exwife. It's very likely I'd immediately score her lower.

       

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    1. Re:bad survey. by blai · · Score: 1

      I am from Hong Kong, you insensitive clod!

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    2. Re:bad survey. by Surt · · Score: 1

      It takes into account personal history via sample size.

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    3. Re:bad survey. by JWSmythe · · Score: 2, Interesting

          It doesn't look like the same size provides an adequate room for edge cases to not skew the results.

          At one company, I did scored ratings. It seemed like a big complicated system, but it boiled down to be pretty simple. People were voting 1 to 5 on a set of pictures. There were thousands of sets handled by the system at any given point, and multiple millions of votes stored in our logs.

          In the first 10 results, we could have a tremendously skewed result. Say a 4.5
          In the first 100 results, we'd see them drift. maybe now 2.5
          In the first 10,000 results, it would be closer to a consistent number. 4.2, for the sake of this example.

          To encourage voting, and reduce complaints of "where's my score", we didn't publish any scores until there were at least 50 results. It made for the occasional complaint of "why did my score change so much", which we could address by providing their logs (timestamps and votes).

          So, 100 guys in Australia, and an unknown sample group in Hong Kong? Nope, not good enough, especially where they're trying to say it covers 50% of the world population.

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    4. Re:bad survey. by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          Send us your young tall thin large breasted women!

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    5. Re:bad survey. by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 3, Funny

      What the statue of liberty should have said

    6. Re:bad survey. by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      Studies like this are why statistics should be part of high school.

      Basically, any time you've got a sample less than 1500, disregard the study. There's too much drift, your p-numbers are all pretty much random, and it's just not good data or sound practice. (I meant fifteen hundred. That's a general baseline.)

      Also, without qualifying bars the stats are meaningless.

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    7. Re:bad survey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, that's not how statistics works. Depending on the study, have massive sample sizes like 1500 subjects would lead to overpowering. At my last job (research scientist here), we routinely used cohorts of around 50, which is plenty of power to get accurate results (depending on the type of study; most of our were behavioral).

    8. Re:bad survey. by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          Ya, the wording wasn't future-proof. I don't know exactly how you'd say the following. Maybe the second person who has a time machine can go back and fix the past, to fix the future. They'll just need to be sure to make a way to tell their future selves that they must do it. You can't ask the first person with a time machine to do it, they'll have that whole damned "you can't change the timeline" attitude. You know, step on a butterfly and all that nonsense.

          BTW, the tablet in her hand just says "July IV, MDCCLXXVI" You're thinking of the poem that is in a tablet at the base of the statue.

          On with the poem.

      Please don't send us your ugly;

      Your genetically disposed to eat too much fast food,
      and complain that they eat because they're big boned;

      Your discount shoppers,
      who will exclusively buy foreign products,
      and destroy the economy;

      Your future business leaders,
      who look at the bottom dollar and not the impact,
      who will outsource your jobs;

      Your corrupt and idiotic politicians,
      who will run senseless wars,
      and make the worst decisions possible;

      To those, we ask you to turn around and go back;

      To the rest of you, welcome to America.

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  8. In the words of Sir Mix-a-Lot by somaTh · · Score: 1

    Only if she's 5'3". Baby got back.

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  9. Long arms? Uh, no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Slender-ish arms are attractive and tend to look longer (although they are normally not actually longer).

    Arm shape is one thing I look at to determine how healthy a woman is. Chubby arms on a thin woman indicate a potential fat woman in disguise. Too thin of arms indicate a potential eating disorder, drug problem, or who knows (ie. mental issues if true).

    I don't go by these alone but they do shape my initial impression.

  10. Long arms? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    How long have these arms to be?
    Long enough to hand me a beer over from the fridge?

    1. Re:Long arms? by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 1

      I recall reading that the long arms were supposed to indicate that she could cradle the kidnick properly, so it would be comfortable while suckling a teat. Maybe read this in PopSci? Or that book the Naked Ape? Creepy envisioning a female version of Plastic Man.

    2. Re:Long arms? by stuckinphp · · Score: 0

      Longer than a piece of string obviously.

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  11. one of these days by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    one of these days they will stop trying to figure out what makes some women more attractive than others and will finally start figuring out how to get everyone one or two of those.

    1. Re:one of these days by rubycodez · · Score: 2, Informative

      no problem, travel to some place money is scarce. bring some money. you will be found attractive and have women.

    2. Re:one of these days by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      +1 spot fucking on

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    3. Re:one of these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you forgot one thing: make it known that you have money.

    4. Re:one of these days by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      Are you a white guy in an impoverished country? Then they know you have money. You don't exactly have to use a bull horn. Fuck I spend more on lunch than some Africans make in a month.

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    5. Re:one of these days by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      I have heard many good things about Thailand, and I'm sure things are even more affordable with their tourism economy in the shitter due to the political unrest.

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    6. Re:one of these days by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      or you could even go to Pakistan, there is a flood there right now, think of the victims!

    7. Re:one of these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, although if things are really in the crapper in that country, then you may just be setting yourself up for somebody to slit your throat for your money.

  12. Re:Long arms? Uh, no by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I usually fuck her if she's cute, friendly, comfortable, and willing. Failing the willing part, we get flirty; failing the comfortable part, things get weird and we dismiss the idea. Failing the comfortable/willing parts both, we usually just wind up being friends. If she turns out to be a bitch, I just ignore her because no amount of unbelievable hotness is going to cover up a giant cunt. Sure I'm not into chubby chicks; but there's plenty of skinny, curvy, short, and somewhat long girls out there that catch my eye. There's no real pattern: I like her or I don't, and if she's got a smoking body but her aura says "LOL I AM ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING SO FUCK YOU ALL KNEEL BEFORE ME" I'm not going to notice her.

  13. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Awesome. A useless study that tells us what men already knew (and women). Can I get a Weekend Update Really?! segment for this?

  14. Did They Account for Individual Taste? by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Personally, I like short girls for some reason. I don't know why, but I've always had a thing for girls that are 5'4 or below. I think it's because the short ones are usually zesty packets of spunk and attitude. Nothing like short-woman syndrome to make a girl the right balance of crazy and fierce.

    1. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by rubycodez · · Score: 2, Informative

      short? the average height of women in the USA is 5'4".

    2. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by ihatejobs · · Score: 1

      That happens to a lot of people. They think that their choice in partner is completely unique and it turns out that they just like the average.

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    3. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      Fine then, change my criteria to at least 6 inches shorter than myself. I don't really care about the USA average height, I just like women that are short compared to myself.

    4. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, yeah, we all know it's because they make you're dick look bigger.

    5. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 2, Interesting

      short? the average height of women in the USA is 5'4".

      You will have people talking about 'short' guys who are average or above average height. As a result, if you fall near average, you have to state your height as exaggerated in order to avoid being labeled 'short'.

      I think there is also a disconnect in referring to height in a numeric manner. It's interesting when you look at it from a statistical standpoint, I've seen people refer to guys who were 5'9" and 5'10" as short.

      You will hear people refer to women below 5'6" as being short, which doesn't make sense when looking at the statistical data.

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    6. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "I think it's because the short ones are usually zesty packets of spunk"

      Don't use that complement in the UK.

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    7. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just like women that are short compared to myself.

      So do nearly all men.

    8. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...are usually zesty packets of spunk...

      After you're done with them, sure...

    9. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by llamapater · · Score: 1

      that one's not even good in the US maybe he means it just as it sounds?

    10. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think there is also a disconnect in referring to height in a numeric manner. It's interesting when you look at it from a statistical standpoint, I've seen people refer to guys who were 5'9" and 5'10" as short.

      In some parts of the country, that is short.

      I'm 6'2" - just barely. My brother is 6'3", maybe a little more. My boss is 6'2" and thick (280lb or so). My best friend is 6'5". My dad is 6'1" (or was before he started getting old). Other friends and acquaintances are anywhere from 5'11 up through 6'6" and various builds (most around the 6'1" height).

      My FIL is one of the "shorter" men I know - at 5'10".

      No, it doesn't have much to do with the group I hang with: out here, people really are taller and bigger than the average (don't ask why, I don't know). This is particularly true in many small towns (visit one, and I feel short. Oi!) in the area where people spent their days working with their hands.

      5'6" is short, as it's uncommon for women to be over 5'10" (the height for 'professional' modeling, I hear). Sure, that's a 4" window, but most seem to be near the lower end. There also seem to be more "tall" than "under 5'4", so someone at 5'4" is an exception. (My wife is 5'6" and is considered "short", being several inches shorter than most of her peers).

      When I go to (say) the coasts of the US (NE corridor or California) I'd find myself having a good head's view over the crowds - I am 'quite tall' there, whereas here, I'm relatively normal. (Hell, due to a slight build, I'd even be considered small.) I'm not "the tall guy", I'm "the skinny guy".

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    11. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      They seem to have better proportions IMO. Taller, fit women seem to get that "lanky" look.

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    12. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by psithurism · · Score: 1

      I like short girls for some reason.

      And other scientists would say this is normal! Short girls are faster and more likely to get married and have children (see wikipedia:hight_descrimination), assumed by some scientists (but mainly based on my personal observations) because men tend to choose shorter women as mates, regardless of what they say is attractive.

    13. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by Spectre · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In some parts of the country, that is short.

      No, it doesn't have much to do with the group I hang with: out here, people really are taller and bigger than the average (don't ask why, I don't know).

      When I go to (say) the coasts of the US (NE corridor or California) I'd find myself having a good head's view over the crowds - I am 'quite tall' there, whereas here, I'm relatively normal. (Hell, due to a slight build, I'd even be considered small.) I'm not "the tall guy", I'm "the skinny guy".

      I'll second all of the above. The country was settled by people of different ethnicities area by area. California and New England are shorter than the people in the midwest.

      I don't know if this is because of the backgrounds of the people settling in different regions of the USA or if it is because in the midwest we grew up on hormone-laced beef, but it is a phenomenon that is at least correct from a biased viewpoint (mine).

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    14. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by Anonymous+Crowbar · · Score: 1

      Spinners!

    15. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Personally, I like short girls for some reason. I don't know why, but I've always had a thing for girls that are 5'4 or below. I think it's because the short ones are usually zesty packets of spunk and attitude. Nothing like short-woman syndrome to make a girl the right balance of crazy and fierce."

      Well, it does make it easier to manhandle them in the bed which is fun...I mean, you can pick them up, move them around...do some positions that you just can't do with a bigger girl..unless you are a body builder...

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    16. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      Yay for anecdotal evidence.

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    17. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by cjb658 · · Score: 1

      short? the average height of women in the USA is 5'4".

      Does this average include non-white Americans? There is definitely a disparity among races.

    18. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spunky does not have quite the same meaning as 'full of spunk'

    19. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by penguinchris · · Score: 1

      I'm 5'11" and from western New York. Around there, I feel at least average in height all of the time, and occasionally feel tall depending on who's around me. I never feel particularly short, though I know a lot of people who are taller than me.

      Conversely, I've been living in Southern California for a couple of years, and I feel short *all the time* there. So what I'm saying is I have a contradictory anecdote - you say at 6'1" you feel tall in California, but having lived in California I'd say you had an unusual experience :) My story mirrors yours - most everyone I know (at least those who were born in California) is over 6'.

      Regarding the story, I can (easily) appreciate the attractiveness of tall skinny girls but I prefer short skinny girls. Because everyone's so tall and/or fat, those are in short supply in California. My girlfriend is from Thailand, I think she's the most beautiful girl there is, and I think she's around 4'10" (and very skinny) :)

      Now, in Thailand, I genuinely feel tall, but not all the time as you might think. I don't tower over everyone all the time. Come to think of it, a relatively "average" 5'11" is a pretty good place to be at - I don't ever feel out of place, and I'm not short :)

    20. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by Rick17JJ · · Score: 1

      I have a slight preference for small short young women, but am also attracted to one who are tall or average. I am most attracted to smaller short women that are probably from about 4'11 to 5'5 inches tall. But, that preference is slight. I would prefer that they not be over about 6'0 or so, because I am 5'11 and would prefer that they not be more than an inch or two taller than me.

      Oddly enough, I also fascinated by smaller than average sized breasts. Whenever I see a young slightly flat chested 20-something year old girl at the cash register at the health food store or elsewhere, it always arouses my curiosity. I always wonder what she would look like with her shirt off. The lack of visible breasts leaves me wondering. My not being able to see the size of the breasts outlined through the shirt, arouses my curiosity and fascination. On several occasions over the years, a small breasted cashier has bent over to put something into the grocery sack, giving me a brief glimpse of a portion of her lovely perky small little breasts.

      Of course a good hip to waist ratio always makes for a nice looking figure, which would suggest hormone levels appropriate for good fertility.

      I have also noticed that when the face is viewed from the side, a significant distance between the chin and the throat makes makes for a much better looking face. I have also noticed that having eye brows that are sufficiently high above the eyes makes for a more attractive face.

      By the way, I recently attended a nearby festival for raw vegans, even though I actually eat meat and fish myself, and cook most of my meals. Nearly everyone there looked amazingly healthy and attractive. Not one person at the festival was overweight (except for me) and nearly everyone had a wonderful skin color and complexion. Most of them looked like they were college aged or in their 20s, but in some cases were actually older than they looked. I briefly talked to one highly attractive women who said she was in her mid-40s, but who looked like she was in her late 20s. A 109 year old guy who was speaking at the event, showed me that he did not have any wiggle waggle under his arms.

      Ninety percent of the women at the event looked amazingly attracive, the other ten percent looked good. Perhaps, healthy eating keeps women (and men) more attractive and healthy as they get into their 30s, 40s and beyond. I might actually try out a few of their weird recipes, at least for an occasional meal.

    21. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      Well to be honest, it doesn't always make sense to use national statistics as evidence. In my post I wrote that I like short girls at 5'4 or so. On the central coast of Cali, it seems to me that most women are at least 5'6 or above. That said, 5'4 would be short in terms of my potential mate selection so saying that the average American woman is 5'4 really doesn't have any meaning to me. The sample group needs to be relevant to the question at hand somehow.

    22. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Perhaps, healthy eating keeps women (and men) more attractive and healthy as they get into their 30s, 40s and beyond. I might actually try out a few of their weird recipes, at least for an occasional meal.

      Well, considering most of the vitamins that keep skin and cells healthy come from fruits and vegetables, I could see that being the case. On the other hand, I would bet that most of those people have a pretty hard time building a significant amount of muscle, and many of them may be iron deficient. I know that one of my close friends eats almost a pound of meat a day, if not more. He certainly doesn't have the healthiest skin, but man, he packs on muscle like a madman when he works out.

    23. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by Rick17JJ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I am not sure about the raw vegans, but at least most vegetarians and ordinary vegans (not raw) include beans and and grains in their diet. Most types of beans are missing one amino acid, and most grains are missing a different amino acid. Both foods have complementary proteins and if eaten within a 24 hour (or so) time period, complete protein is absorbed. Beans are surprisingly high in protein. Then there are also soy beans, which have complete protein.

      One grain like cereal that vegans and vegetarians sometimes eat is quinoa, because it has more protein than most grains. Chia seeds also seem to be popular for similar reasons.

      I mostly just went around tasting their samples of food and even purchased my lunch and dinner at the event. I am not actually sure what was in most of what I was eating. For lunch, I had a faux tuna wrap "ninja" sandwich wrapped in a piece of dried seaweed and filled with veggies and tomatoes and faux tuna.

      For dinner I had an uncooked raw veggie burger made from pistachio nuts and other ingredients, along with a side dish of rice and a salad. I also had a piece of raw uncooked pizza made from who knows what. The pizza tasted very good even though it was cold and did not have any cheese in it.

      I also had a sample of some kind of uncooked cereal made from chia seeds and other ingredients. My understanding was that chia seeds are quite high in protein and the good omega-3 fatty acids (just like salmon and sardines).

      If possible, it would be interesting to compare raw vegans other healthy diets, such as the Mediterranean diet, vegans (not raw), and vegetarians. If there are festivals for those events, it would be interesting to see how those people compare. As for myself, I suspect that the small amounts of extremely lean grass fed buffalo meat, when eaten in small portions like I do, would not have enough saturated fat to hurt me very much. The grass fed buffalo meat has not been fattened in a feedlot with corn, like most beef is. It is very very lean.

      Although I am not a vegan, I have managed to slowly loose 40 lbs and add muscle and aerobic capacity over the last 4 years through 1 hour per day of exercise and healthier eating. I have done that while still eating as much as I wanted. But, my weight loss has leveled off at a point where I am still somewhat somewhat overweight. I am 55 years old.

    24. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by MrCrassic · · Score: 1

      Think that's weird? I get chastised for liking chubby women. Even the chubby women I've dated don't understand it...(neither do I)

    25. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      I'll second all of the above. The country was settled by people of different ethnicities area by area. California and New England are shorter than the people in the midwest.

      Ironically, I'm in the Midwest, but my family is from New York. My wife (from the Midwest) is short. The generation since my grandfathers and on, all the males have been over 6' - mixed Irish/Italian on one side, and "so American I've been here since the Mayflower"/Irish/English/Dutch on the other. So I'm exceptionally tall for people from where I come from, but yes: Midwesterners are a taller breed, generally.

      Most of the genetics around here seem to be of mixed German/Norwegian and a bit of Irish thrown in for good measure (lots of Chicago immigrants, once minorities stared taking over).

      Out here in the Midwest, there's a saying that people grow big, tall, and strong because they're corn fed ("corn fed Iowa boys"). I don't know how true that is, but when I look at the people who grew up in town and then the ones who grew up on the ranch/farm, there's a big difference in general physical stature: the out-of-town kids tend to be 'healthier' looking and, yes, taller. I'd not chalk it up to hormones (processed food has 'em too) as much as I'd chalk it up to less corn and higher-nutrient (vegetables and meat) diets.

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    26. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by ppanon · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but that usually has more to do with childhood nutrition. Asian families tend to eat less meat and rice often comprises a large portion of the meal compared to NA diet. Average height in China has increased in the last 20 years as more of the country has had better access to good nutrition. Cultural cooking norms affect nutrition, which in turn affects height (and width). There are of course some regional differences due to evolutionary adaptations (i.e. African pygmies), but they are less than is popularly assumed.

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    27. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      spinners with puffies

    28. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      that is average across all U.S. female citizens. 5-8" is average for "white" women.

    29. Re:Did They Account for Individual Taste? by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      Yeah, dietary studies are always interesting to read up on. That is one science that I don't spend much effort researching but would probably benefit me more. For now, my modus operandi is to keep my metabolism sky high by leading an extremely active lifestyle. This gives me the freedom to eat what I want (within reason) without fluctuating in weight too much. Being young probably helps a lot on that front.

  15. SCIENCE! by Triv · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why do I get the feeling this study was conceived purely as a way to get a bunch of nerds into a room with some hot chicks and to cover their leering as "scientific curiosity."

  16. wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pics or it isn't true!

  17. Long arms eh? by Joffy · · Score: 1

    That sucks for Hayden Panettiere!

    1. Re:Long arms eh? by phly1x · · Score: 0

      she's good from afar, but far from good. besides: not tall. not thin/skinny. not long arms.

  18. Armed? by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1
    No thanks. I prefer if women are not all tooled up and ready to go on a killing spree.

    Seriously though, tall does not appeal to me (nor just very short) but in this 'study' it would appear that 'tall' is relative. The bit about long arms is a mystery to me. Long as in orang utan or long as in not short and stubby? Or something in between. We need pictures!

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  19. I believe it was the esteemed... by Itesh · · Score: 1

    Sir Mix-A-Lot who said, "My anaconda don't want none unless you got buns hun!" and 36-24-36 only if she's 5' 3"

  20. Nulliparous by JackSpratts · · Score: 1

    is what the boys want, and what those pipestem arms and little waist whisper.

  21. Na'vi? by zero_out · · Score: 1

    Was this survey performed outside a movie theatre after a showing of Avatar by any chance?

  22. someone forgot to link the paper by hyperion2010 · · Score: 1

    apparently there isnt just one editor a /. OR he has a very short attention span: http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/09/27/1913205/This-Is-a-News-Website-Article-About-a-Scientific-Paper

    Dont link TFA, link TFP. The. Fucking. Paper.

  23. HEY! by Shikaku · · Score: 4, Funny

    Listen!

    1. Re:HEY! by silverglade00 · · Score: 1

      Listen!

      You smell something?

    2. Re:HEY! by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      Argh, that was low. Couldn't you have posted a goatse link instead?

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  24. That makes sense... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think tall, short-armed women or short, long-armed women would look kind of odd.

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    1. Re:That makes sense... by hawkfish · · Score: 1

      I think tall, short-armed women or short, long-armed women would look kind of odd.

      Exactly - the second group would have a similar ratio to chimpanzees. Not sure what the first group would look like but probably any quadruped.

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    2. Re:That makes sense... by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 1

      I think tall, short-armed women or short, long-armed women would look kind of odd.

      Not sure what the first group would look like...

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    3. Re:That makes sense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i still think its about proportion. as long as it looks fine as a whole, it can only mean its beautiful.

  25. Study: Women that look like models are attractive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much money did they spend to discover that people find women that resemble models to be attractive????

  26. Sounds like good news for female boxers? by BerntB · · Score: 1

    Sounds like good news for female boxers?

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  27. Shocking by carrier+lost · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...found that across cultural divides young, tall and long armed women were considered the most attractive."

    Get out! Men don't like old, short, stubby-armed women?

    Sacre-bleu!

  28. Dave.cpp by CODiNE · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually Dave has already figured out the optimal formula for calculating and ranking a woman's beauty.

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  29. I appreciate large derrieres... by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and it is impossible to be untruthful.

    1. Re:I appreciate large derrieres... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      None of us can refute that

    2. Re:I appreciate large derrieres... by Abstrackt · · Score: 3, Funny

      When a young woman enters with a small waist and supple buttocks

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    3. Re:I appreciate large derrieres... by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 3, Funny

      And proceeds to expose her hip and buttocks region in close proximity to your face, One's penis might become turgid, lending a certain urge to extract it.

    4. Re:I appreciate large derrieres... by mooingyak · · Score: 1

      with a small waist

      vs

      with an itty-bitty waist

      You couldn't do better?

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    5. Re:I appreciate large derrieres... by careysub · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of former Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz's witticism about how African-American males enjoy comfortable footwear, satisfying sex, and heated bathroom facilities.

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    6. Re:I appreciate large derrieres... by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why, even men of european descent must loudly declare appreciation for women of these proportions!

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  30. And furthermore... by hyades1 · · Score: 1, Funny

    "The study...found that across cultural divides young, tall and long armed women were considered the most attractive."

    "Unt zee gymungous getitzenhooters alzo ve haf found to be zort uff nice.

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  31. Re:Long arms? Uh, no by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 1

    You can read aura! Dam you!

  32. Worthless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This thread is worthless without pics!

  33. Interesting Test Study... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Subjects chosen from Chinese women, observed by Australian men and women...with a control group from Hong Kong...

  34. AN Answer, not THE Answer by DynaSoar · · Score: 1

    This is a very common topic in social psychology experiments. Many that are published fall prey to an error of calling the example selected most to be 'attractive'. It's more correct to say that the most common answer is the most common opinion of attractiveness. In the press to prove their point, they ignore the fact that a less common answer is also an opinion of attractiveness, just to fewer people. Just because more guys like the hard, bony ones with corners so sharp they bruise you and threaten to poke holes in the water bed doesn't mean some don't consider the softer, more squeezable ones to be attractive.

    And while you're getting your 'fat chick' jokes ready to throw, keep in mind that the less likely a guy is to get a girl at all, the more likely he is to adopt an attractiveness standard in line with the majority (so he can lie as much as possible) but to an even greater degree (so he can better lies than the other guys do do). He might as well claim that's his preference since he's not likely to get any sort, and will take advantage of any chance to toss his artificial preference out for others to see, expecting them to take his preference as a history. Yes, there's an awful lot of this attractiveness research done, and only some of it tends to reach erroneous conclusions.
     

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    1. Re:AN Answer, not THE Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet that preference may be learned for other reasons. If a guy keeps getting shot down by tall, skinny, long armed "beautiful" women because they don't feel he meets their "standards" even though he's reasonably smart, witty, not bad looking, has good hygiene, and is a decent caring lover, then his perception of that body type will be affected and his preference will probably shift. If women with that body type in general have higher than normal expectations in terms of attention and gift giving, then that may colour perception as well. And that behaviour is to be expected from supply/demand curve model of microeconomics because those women will be seen as desirable, leading to treatment in formative years that promotes that behaviour, To put it another way, men with large quantities of money can afford outrageous bills to impress and placate women with supermodel bodies, but for others an expectation of that kind of requirement through learned association can provide for some significant conditioning that gorgeous=>stuck up, high maintenance, and not worth it. There will be exceptions of course, but they will tend to pair off and become unavailable early.

  35. Re:Long arms? Uh, no by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

    How true. For me it's the eyes that tell wether she's a nice girl or a bitch, and I'm not interested in living with a constant headache.

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  36. Knee sharpness? by Stavr0 · · Score: 1

    Missing from the study is the impact of knee sharpness on perceived beauty standard.

    1. Re:Knee sharpness? by Bill+Dog · · Score: 1

      Huh? You mean like "pointy elbows"/that kind of sharpness?

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  37. So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Long arms? Give me a hourglass shaped babe with plenty of T&A, thanks. :)

    Hourglass+T+A does not preclude long arms.

  38. didn't we already know this??? by phly1x · · Score: 0

    my wife is: able to stop traffic, blonde ,6' tall, 6'2" wingspan, 145lbs, elite athlete, a PE, LEED AP. you all can bow down before ME. i bow down before--in front of, facing--her.

  39. And yet... by Starteck81 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And yet some people still find Snookie attractive. I know, it boggles my mind too.

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  40. FAIL by ComputerGeek01 · · Score: 1

    Not one mention of symetry or Vetruvian (spelling?) measurements was made in this article. The study was all Chinese women. The study group was all men from western cultures. I can't even believe this was published.

  41. The morbidly obese'll scream with practised rage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We needed a study to find this out. Well, the people large enough to need their own post-codes will holler that unrealistic goals are being manufactured. /Don't eat crap. //See rule one.

  42. Re:Long arms? Uh, no by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    I'm not interested in cuddling with a witch from hell, much less sticking it in her. Much less marrying her lol wtf?

  43. Not surprising by Translation+Error · · Score: 4, Funny

    After all, who's going to tell armed women that they're unattractive.

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  44. Corsets by KDN · · Score: 1

    As someone who admires ladies in corsets, I've known about the waist to hip ratio for years :-) What is interesting is this may be inbred, because that ratio has been found to indicate the most fertile women.

    1. Re:Corsets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like your mom.

  45. MORE PSEUDO-SCIENCE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Our results showed consistent attractiveness ratings by men and women and by Hong Kong Chinese and Australian raters, suggesting considerable cross cultural consistency," concluded Brooks. "In part this may be due to shared media experiences.

    Summary to the "study"
    Make some silhouettes of a variety of Chinese and Australian women. Show them to some Chinese and Australian men and ask them to rate them. Conclude that the results are significant across all cultures and are genetically induced.

    Who pays these fucking idiots?

  46. Re:Long arms? Uh, no by sumdumass · · Score: 1

    I would agree until I found out they wear colored contact lenses and use makeup to manipulate the parts surrounding the eyes and they can find a lot of the bitch within.

    Now I just pretend I'm a family man looking at a sports car. I will test drive them, if they are too slow, I take it back to the lot, if they are too fast, the same. If they need their valves adjusted every 10 miles, well, you get the hint. I'm just glad that Google Voice allows me to block numbers altogether.

  47. Distrubing by TiggertheMad · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've always had a thing for girls that are 5'4 or below. I think it's because the short ones are usually zesty packets of spunk

    if...
    girls that are 5'4 or below == short ones
    and
    short ones == zesty packets of spunk
    That would mean that you just said:

    I've always had a thing for zesty packets of spunk.

    on Slashdot. /shudder

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    1. Re:Distrubing by need4mospd · · Score: 1

      In his defense, the mild packets of spunk don't do it for me either. You gotta go zesty.

    2. Re:Distrubing by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      Hey man, if you're going to post on the internet, you might as well use the most colorful and ambiguous language as possible. It's all just fun and games in the end anyways.

  48. Young!? by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Shocking!! They had to do a study to find out men prefer young looking women?!?

    There is a reason Steely Dan doesn't sing a song titled "Hey 39".

    There are also plenty of good biological and evolutionary reasons for this.

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    1. Re:Young!? by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      Previously all evidence was anecdotal. Now they have a reference they can cite.

    2. Re:Young!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not so much youth that's attractive, it's fitness. Most people would be more attracted to a fit 3o-something than an obese 20-year-old. Young folks tend to be fitter than older. All the crap about 'youthful skin' is just icing on the cake - it's not the meat of the matter.

  49. Crappy article. No pictures. by nickdwaters · · Score: 1

    The statistics are averaged across cultures they sampled. It's about as meaningful as the tendency of storks to build their nests in chimneys.

  50. Re:Long arms? Uh, no by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
    "Slender-ish arms are attractive and tend to look longer (although they are normally not actually longer). Arm shape is one thing I look at to determine how healthy a woman is. Chubby arms on a thin woman indicate a potential fat woman in disguise. "

    You gotta look for thick ankles too...that is a pretty sure sign she's gonna have good potential to blimp on ya.

    Thick wrists are a decent sign too...but thick ankles, you gotta watch for those!!

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  51. Three numbers by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    36 - 24 - 36

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    1. Re:Three numbers by neminem · · Score: 1

      Maybe if she's five three...

      (Why do I *know* these things?)

    2. Re:Three numbers by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      So you met my ex wife?

      Man.. that was over 20 years ago now.

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  52. Pop culture. by MaWeiTao · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It seems to me the scope of this study was too limited. What they've defined as attractive seems dictated by celebrity culture. This means excessively thin women who then have to compensate by getting plastic surgery, especially in the US. My impression of many European, excluding England, and South American celebrities is that they're far healthier-looking than Americans.

    Hell, look at Japanese illustrations and, excluding some fetishes, the distilled attractive female is generally well-endowed. I don't mean necessarily having large breasts, but nice hips and a fairly curvaceous body. And from personal, admittedly anecdotal, evidence guys are more immediately turned on by a woman with more shape, even if she trends towards being heavy, than they would ever be by someone who's thin.

    Unfortunately, the ideal nowadays, for women, seems to be sickeningly thin. And it's generally quite bad in Asia. I'm convinced there's a serious anorexia problem being overlooked out there.

    The ideal figure must be aspirational. Looking at classical paintings women were always depicted as a bit heavyset. Generally, it was a considered a sign of wealth given that most didn't have the means to eat so well. Today, in the developed world who doesn't have access to plenty of food. Hell, people who are often considered poor manage to be overweight. So the goal now is to be thin. In some cases it's even been associated with wealth, the argument being that the poor don't have access to good food or have the luxury of being able to work out.

    1. Re:Pop culture. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Being model thin is not comfortable either. I'm naturally very thin ( I literally can't gain weight even when trying )
      and it makes me lightheaded, I sweat easily, I freeze easily, it's uncomfortable to sit on hard chairs etc..
      Silly thing is there's numerous girls who want to be this thin, and some of them compliment me for it. Personally I wish
        I could gain weight. Unfortunately my body does not seem to want that. I'm pretty sure it's not an eating disorder,
        and my diet has plenty of protein and carbs. The doctors can't find any medical or lifestyle problems that would have
      caused it so I'm guessing I'm just going to have to put up with it.

  53. *sigh* by feufeu · · Score: 1

    I almost thought that i am the only one to wait for the mythical bus full of naughty long legged large breasted swedish chicks that will break down just in front of my house one day ...

  54. Waste of Research Money by MidnightBrewer · · Score: 1

    They could have saved a lot of time and man-hours and just asked me.

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    "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life
  55. Across cultures? by plopez · · Score: 1

    Considering the pervasiveness of American culture and movies, the statement about "across cultures" is meaningless.

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    putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
  56. Young, tall, long arms.... by mferrare · · Score: 1

    ...and lots of orange hair.

    An orangutang!!!

    Young orangutang supermodels coming to your neck of the woods soon....

    Mark

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    Why would anyone want to use a text editor that is not vi?
  57. The most objective measure of beauty is the kL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  58. Not me. by 7-Vodka · · Score: 1

    found that across cultural divides young, tall and long armed women were considered the most attractive

    Not me.

    I like the short, fat, ugly bitches with T-rex arms.

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    Liberty.

  59. Well... by martin0641 · · Score: 1

    Angelina looks like Gollum. I'll take Sexy Patty Cake.

  60. Saved some money by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    I could have saved so much money for them had they just asked me. I would have shown them the victoria secrets catalog and told them, THIS is what makes women sexy and attractive. Seriously, that or live in brazil, one of those 2.

  61. This was the study with all the ogres! by LastDawnOfMan · · Score: 1

    I remember this from a few months ago ... the models were horrifying, grossly misshapen for the most part. Only the skinny ones with longer arms even looked like female humans. Leading to their inevitable conclusion. I figured at the time they simply were too incompetent or cheap to hire somebody who could create the reasonable human figures needed for a real study of attractiveness. I doubt such a shit study actually discovered anything at all.