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Does the End of KOffice Mean the End of KDE?
jfruhlinger writes "Venerable Linux office suite KOffice has been reborn as "Calligra," a name meant to evoke calligraphy but perhaps a bit too close to the neme of a deranged Roman emperor. Perhaps more importantly, Calligra seems to be cooperating with the future MeeGo mobile Linux distro. Could this be the beginning of the end of the KDE desktop, at least under its current branding?"
not just the end of KDE - but the end of all life on earth!
What a stupid headline. Page views, clicks, etc. Yeah I know.
It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
There is clearly a typo in the summary, this is a KDE project so it would have to be Kalligra.
What happened to that annoying K in all names of the K Desktop Environment?
Why would anyone think that?
In my distro, gentoo, things are handled in a component manner. I can choose to use whatever I want with whatever apart from branding etc, as long as no conflicts exist.
Just because one of the many apps built with KDE has been re-branded doesn't mean everything else will be. Re-branding an app can help them re-market and re-invet the image for KOffice and loosen the implied restriction of running only under KDE. Changing the name of KDE doesn't benefit them seeing as how Desktop environments aren't really marketed to end-users, and even in the Linux world, most either don't care or already have a preference.
I've always used KDE, but never KOffice. So what.
They're based on the same technology, but other than that, what do they have to do with each other? You can run one without the other.
So the short answer would be "No".
I enjoy KDE and use it daily. I would use KOffice more if there was a better project management tool than KPlato included but alas, there isn't.
Time to donate some more Paypal money their way so that I can close that account. Btw, what alternatives are there to paypal? You know, companies that atleast pretend to support democracy.
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Let's tag this story "troll" and move on quickly.
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Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
The day you born you started to die. You can point any event as "the beginning of the end" of anything that is not eternal. But that one classical KDE app is renamed to something that have no K have more or less the same weight that a gnome app having a name that don't starts with g (and didnt saw any comment about the beginning of the end of gnome when one of such apps got released or renamed).
I must confess, I was never really a big fan of the KDE stuff -- first of all, that ridiculous fascination with the letter K. But, I always found that the GUI was, well, kind of ugly and reminiscent of ancient versions of Windows. Granted, I've not seen it in a long time, so that is likely unfair. But, I distinctly remembering that it felt like a very dumbed down GUI with a strong emphasis on a common (but ugly) look and feel.
I think my biggest problem with it was that almost everything wanted to have its own file format, instead of using one that existed. But, as I said, I haven't seen it in a long time.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
It is official; Netcraft now confirms; KDE is dying
Just because they dropped the K nomenclature on one of their software suites hardly means KDE as we know it is going away... I think it's a good move. To be honest, the K in front of every piece of software made it feel... amateurish.
The rats are fleeing the sinking ship. But seriously, with all that rebranding and repositioning going on, you just know that KDE^H^HSC is not a viable anything anymore. What used to be the best desktop seems now to be just the best Powerpoint presentation.
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Anyone know what the fate of Clutter will be now that Intel has jumped to QT?
Yes. Totally. Because the only reason people use KDE is so they can get KOffice.
Probably it's a typo, and they meant to write "name" with reference to Calligula, but what the hell is a "neme". Is that some new-fangled internet term for a name-meme? And what the hell is that supposed to mean?
Yes, I googled it, and got no satisfaction. YMMV.
A portmanteau of meme and name?
Also, what's a "neme"?
KDE has been rebranding, and not just in removing the K from all their applications. KDE is a project, and a non-profit entity (KDE e.V.). The software compilation they release is now known as KDE SC.
I don't see any reason for alarm over rebranding. KDE is getting more contributers and developers every year. Even many of the die-hard haters who railed against the 4.0 release have come back into the fold loving the current KDE releases. And for all the hate about Plasma, the Plasma framework makes it quite easy to create new activities and shells, making KDE on netbooks, tablets and phones considerably more viable.
I find it interesting that Ubuntu is trying to find a way to create one interface/shell on every device, and yet they pay so little attention to KDE, Plasma and Qt. With KDE activities, I can switch instantly between a netbook activity (which I may prefer on the tiny resolution netbook screen) and a more standard desktop activity/shell when I use the video output to use a larger display.
I can keep many of the same apps, conventions, etc. across multiple devices while still focusing on a activity/shell that is best suited to that size/resolution/device.
I'm actually really excited about the future of KDE.
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I read that they were going to go through some re-branding pain some time ago although the reasons were not clear, at least to me. But I hardly think this qualifies as signs that KDE is going away.
Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
* KDE was rebranded a year ago. It's now the name of the community, not the desktop.
* KDE, the community, is stronger than ever with more contributors than ever and more commits than ever.
* Calligra does not switch focus to mobile, but it *extends* the focus to mobile... and tablets... and so on.
I know I never have, and I use KDE quite a lot. I don't know anyone that has. It's usually OpenOffice.org that's being use.
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I realize to the KDE purists out there (all three of you?) this is a horrible thing, but seriously - so what? Libreoffice is the big dog in this space and there are other packages like Abiword which have more mindshare then KOffice.
I call it 'The Aristocrats'
KOffice was just stupid name.
Hmm. And just recently I got a request to purchase kaligraphy.com from me.
:)
:) Email is in the whois data ...
Thinking that it might have been Microsoft or Apple or similar about to release a new product, I replied with an outrageously high price. I wonder if it was the KDE team
If it is indeed the KDE team, get in touch
Simon
Physicists get Hadrons!
One can hope.
All the cool people moved on to a desktop with 91% market share.
KOffice has been reborn as "Calligra," a name meant to evoke calligraphy but perhaps a bit too close to the neme of a deranged Roman emperor.
yes, the first thing everybody is going to think is, "holy crap! is that named after that insane roman ruler 2000 years ago?!"
my first thought was, "what the hell does Calligra mean?"
not everyone is a historian.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
This is a horrible junk news editorial. This speculation is not just wild, it is more annoying than those toads in Australia... too much of this around and we just can't kill them all.
I welcome the name change from KOffice to just about anything else including Caligula. KOffice is not the same as K-Office. KOffice sounds too much like a bronchial condition. And the propensity to name things with a K in front is just ridiculous. I know, Gnome is somewhat guilty of that but not to the same extent. Worse, K is associated n my mind with K-Mart which was the brand of K-rap. (Their shoes were cheap and only lasted for 5 minutes on my feet when I was a kid.) I know... my association with K is my problem, but still. Too much K already. At least "G" is more often silent.
Could be worse. could have been named for the son of Marcus Aurelius: Comodeus
- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum.
Perhaps Calligra is intended to evoke "Calligraphy on Viagra."
I Kant help but Kwonder if Ksomething is Kbetter on the Korizon? I mean, Kwhere else Kould we get our Kfix on Kbranded Knames? I Wish I Gknew what I could do to run my Gprograms Gnow?
Procrastination; I'll think of a sig tomorrow.
Caligula Text editor? I am so there!
How about other cool names? I want the Loki Operating system!
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Ignore this post please. Just testing something.
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>Btw, what alternatives are there to paypal?
http://gunpal.com/ (I kid you not.)
http://alertpay.com/
wire transfers
http://moneybookers.com/
https://www.neteller.com/
https://www.epassporte.com/
http://www.e-gold.com/
http://www.libertyreserve.com/
>You know, companies that atleast pretend to support democracy.
I don't vouch for any of the above.
I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on the Internet. Blog
G is so silent, many people are not even it exists.
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What happened here seems to be, from my skimming of the mailing lists, just a personality conflict. A bog-standard one, at that. The name change is more symbolic than anything else. Here's what to take away from this fiasco: One KWord developer is going to do his own thing, where some lists and code repos are hosted may change. Everything else is business as usual.
I want my Cowboyneal
At first glance, you might think "Flamebait"
Fair enough, however:
After the past 2 years of endless unstable and uselessly incomplete releases,
who the heck uses KDE any more?
The lack of coherency make it such a nightmare to support, that vendors who pre-load Linux,
like Hard Data or even Dell, will no longer provide a KDE environment as a supported platform.
It is telling that both Red Hat and Ubuntu install Gnome as their default.
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Except GNOME/GNU (pronounced gunome and gunu) deliberate use an anti-silenced 'g'.
This makes no sense to me....maybe should lable this as nonsense?!?
At this time I use nothing but KDE....and I hope to never change. But what is koffice? I have never seen nor used this. So far just have Open Office....though not sure of the future of that suite of applications since Oracle has taken over Sun. How can the change of a name for one app. or suite of apps kill the parent environment? I do not see the relationship here. KDE is a desktop environment and I should think any one app./suite should not be central. Certainly koffice does exist but even if it were to disappear I think (to me) I would not even notice and have no effect on my installing and using KDE. /fennix
He's trolling, right?
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How am I supposed to know Plasma and Dolphin are KDE apps now?
Here's a better question. Why should I need to know whether Dolphin (I'll leave out Plasma, since it's functionality is so KDE-specific) is a KDE app? If I like it, I should be able to use it seamlessly regardless of which DE I prefer. To the extent that I can't, the 'open desktop' has failed. To the extent that it's becoming easier and easier, the OD is inching (not fast enough, IMHO) toward (the potential for) success.
Posted from my Android phone. Oh, I can change this? There, that's better...
KDE stopped being a useful desktop environment for me when 3.x was retired, i found kde-4.x to be an annoying useless bloated piece of crap and a lame attempt at being eye candy, (mod me down or as a troll or flamebait i dont give a fuck), i am going to put my two cents in while the top is on the front page.
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No wonder why everyone sees the linux community as a bunch of evil nerds up to no good.
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is this guy retarded?
what is in a name? is a rose by any other name no longer a rose?
so what if they change the name from KDE, does it really matter? is it still not the same product? really, is this an issue? i think not
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooo.
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we now have i-phone & droid type devices & Kde went over to them? gnome is going to do 4-6 core cpus, multi 32" lcd screens (think dual ati 5870s)? It seems that netbooks and 13.3" notebooks will get stuck with either too much or too little. Do you think any one will market a 32" 6 core laptop with a GTX480 video chipset, soon? I dont understand what direction any development is going after reading any of this.
Will people stop using KDE because Koffice changed its name from a pretty lame name that probably shouldn't have been used in the first place? Is that what your asking here? really? Or, will KDE change its name? Maybe? But does a project changing its name, probably to draw in more Gnome users, really point in that direction?
I suggest we call all that iGunK. by cp.tar (871488)
on Tuesday December 07, @05:54PM (#34480810)
Who cares what you suggest, and learn to put capital letters where they belong you moron.