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Angles On Anonymous
A number of readers are sending in links related to Anonymous, the Internet phenomenon — don't call them a group — behind the controversial DDoS attacks on commercial entities that fail to support WikiLeaks. The best insight into Anonymous comes from the Economist's Babbage blogger, who hung out in one of their IRC channels. Reader nk497 points out that UK users looking to join Anonymous's DDoS army should be aware they could face a jail term of up to two years; simply downloading the LOIC software used in the DDoSing could suffice to earn a conviction. One 16-year-old has been arrested in The Netherlands and is charged with participating in the DDoS. Reader ancientribe sends in coverage of a claim by one security outfit that several existing criminal botnets have joined forces with Anonymous's Operation: Payback. And reader Stoobalou notes a Thinq.co.uk story on a manifesto of sorts that purports to come from "ANON OPS," even though Anonymous disclaims any central spokesperson or entity (press release here, PDF).
The most successful part of their trolling is that major news outlets still don't understand the joke. They're anonymous. They're not a group. You could just as easily say "bunches of people who have never met"
Belief? Hope? Preference?The Existential Vortex
Or they'll DDoS you.
Who laugh? Hmmm? Who was it? Speak up so you can be added to the list. We'll see to it that your internet connection never functions right again.
I heard that if you post something bad on Slashdot, CmdrTaco hands over your IP address to Anonymous -- where do you think all the GNAA/Goatse trolls went?
Did somebody just sneeze? That's a DDoS. Who laughed when the witnessed testified that Assange has a smaller than average penis? That's a DDoS. If you're replying to this post? Oh, boy, you better believe that's a DDoS. In fact, if you're reading this right now let's just say there's not a lot you can do to stop from being DDoS'd by Anonymous for trying to find out more information about that particular group %*&#$^#%@#$ no carrier
My work here is dung.
Bored people looking for a little excitement and a cause. Not a bad cause really, if nothing else it has brought attention to the fact that these companies bent under the governments will and cut off funding to wikileaks even though our government hasn't figured out anything to charge them with yet.
Now, TITS or GTFO.
WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
Anonymous.
Recursion?
Looks to me like The Economist's blogger mistook mob rule for democracy.
then how can you official say no one is in charge?
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
It's not useful for anything except abuse and copyright violations, of course.
I stopped after I got to "www.irc.paypal" being named as critical infrastructure. It's also reported that at least *two* ISPs have been found supplying an internet connection to Anonymous. Two! That's probably all of them right?
I swear this must have been written by a quick AWK script (not even perl)
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All that one needs to do is to go visit those websites and hit F5 a few times to see whether they come up or not. like, sec, let me see .... nope, they are not coming up. and i even checked 4-5 times ...
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...was their oldest member. They're like a bunch of chipmunks without an Alvin.
What does this have to do with Germanic-speaking people who took their name from the ancestral cultural region of Angeln? Are they saying all Germanic-speaking people who took their name from the ancestral cultural region of Angeln are behind this, or just some of them?
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
What you have done, on your part, really ? at least, these people are implementing a good idea, with a crappy implementation. that's something there. nothing on your side to show for it yet ?
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Anonymous is everyone you depend on. They're the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. They make your bed. They guard you while you're asleep. They drive the ambulances. They direct your call. They are cooks and taxi drivers and they know everything about you. They process your insurance claims and credit card charges. They control every part of your life. "They are the middle children of history, raised by television to believe that someday they'll be millionaires and movie stars and rock stars, but they won't. And they're just learning this fact."
Slightly off-topic: get your hosts file with IP-addresses for each of the WikiLeaks mirrors here:
WikiLeaks hosts file for mirrors
This is a complete list of IP addresses and host names for all WikiLeaks mirrors, in standard hosts file format. You can add the contents of the file to the hosts file already on your computer. The advantage of this is that you are no longer dependant on external DNS service providers in order to access WikiLeaks, as the file provides the necessary domain name to IP address mapping needed to access the sites.
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I am so sick of hearing about /b/. Its not that I'm against wikileaks or julian assange, I'm all for freedom of speech and transparent government. I'm against how everyone misuses the name Anonymous constantly. They are not the only board on 4chan for gods sake. Every time the media focuses on them it makes the rest of us look like idiots. For the record pretty much every other board on 4chan is against this nonsense. Anonymous is not a terrorist organization, its just a name nothing more. Anyone wearing a Guy Fawkes mask doesn't know the first damn thing about freedom and just follows the trend of his fellow /b/tards and its been this way since project chanology. Conformism and ignorance is the very thing were against. Theres no reason why they do it except maybe for some false sense of righteousness. They disgrace our name and our website. Call them /b/tards, terrorists, idiots, but not Anonymous. That name belongs to us and were sick of being grouped with them.
I think that the one thing that really unites the majority of the internet culture is open access of information. And because of that, the internet as a whole likes the fact that the government's "dirty little secrets" are now out in the open. Despite there being a wide range of political viewpoints ranging from communist, to libertarian, to socialist, to anarchist and everywhere in between, much of the internet can agree that open access to information is an essential thing to have.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
All these skiddies are doing is providing fodder to the politicians to enforce more internet control. The governments will get more in bed with every internet hub and access point in their respective countries to monitor all traffic and block encrypted traffic (that they don't have the keys for) and traffic that looks like a hacking or DDoS attack. We will all be paying higher taxes and higher access charges to use what was the open internet. Don't get me wrong, I think the release of these docs is warranted but I don't think the hacking going on right now is doing anyone any good. What good is this going to do for internet users? And this is the problem, the juveniles doing what they think is hacking is just making things worse for the one thing they rely upon, open access.
I don't see much news on charging anti-Wikileaks DDoS'ers.
Am I the only one that misread the title as "Angels on Anonymous?"
Don't worry about negative publicity, the whole mass media is supporting this circus. And if we have to believe Cryptome's Young, Mr Assagne has quite some support from US money and media(he cites Soros).
-- 29A the number of the Beast
al Qaueda doesn't have members who work on nuclear power plants.
DOWNLOAD: loic.sourceforge.net
Works OK.
we should just keep doing nothing, because doing something is not always better than doing nothing.
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and when we actually do anything, we should go back to doing nothing, because there will always be someone who himself does nothing but comes up saying "doing x is better than doing the thing you are doing"
please, act, or shut up. world has enough people who never act, but talk.
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All these national articles and comments.
Anonymous does it for the lulz.
That's it.
Rules 1 & 2
If this were another story about how PayPal screws its customers over everyone on Slashdot would be complaining about how unethical they are. All the complaining you do on slashdot does not make the situation any better. If everyone who has complained or agreed with those complaining about PayPal on Slashdot downloaded LOIC at least your opinion would get heard. Nevermind the fact that it'd probably triple their power. I suspect that most people who say that,"Anonymous's actions are conter-productive" are simply selfish and afraid of the consequences of helping in a cause that they believe in. Anonymous may be immature asshats, but at least they are doing something which is more than I can say for Slashdot
Would help if some grey hat put together a worm with LOIC as its payload.
How ridiculous to define Anonymous and issue "press releases from the group."
Simultaneously they explain that the "group" is decentralized and ad-hoc'ly organized, yet they present quotes and info on "group activities" as if they're interviewing authorities within the "group", or "leaders" or something.
Because Anonymous is NOT a defined group, anyone can claim to be Anonymous and anyone can define it. In fact, I'll go on the record as an "authority" and define Anonymous thusly:
Anonymous is any individual who would rather poop in secrecy rather than compliantly poop under the watchful eye of someone who tells him where and when to poop.
Anonymous is any individual who still is an individual, and hasn't gladly given up their identity to The System.
Ooh, what is this "System", that is the sworn enemy of Anonymous? Who are they and what is their manifesto? What is their control structure? Do they have official membership cards, like I assume Anonymous does???
Really, Anonymous is anyone who at any time decides they want to be called Anonymous for whatever reason. That's all.
Internet tough guys. Thinking they are part of the league. Once you become a namefag, the pack of sharks will turn on you as easily as every other prey they have picked as their target. The only cause is for the lulz and that might come as a susprise when some newfag thinks the anonymous is his personal army of friends. How many of the scriptkiddies actually know how to hide their tracks? It will end in tears when the coppers knock at their door.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/loic/
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
to declare you are in violation of U.S. law abroad.
P.S.: See Cheney, Richard B., President-VICE
Yours In Osh,
Kilgore Trout, C.I.O.
We believe in wikileak's right to disseminate information, but we couldn't care less about your right to not do business with them.
What a joke.
Maybe a bit off topic, but still related to wikileaks,
Notice how there is nothing incriminating about Israel in these leaks...
Turns out Israel struck a deal with Wikileaks.. brilliant. Wonder if US could have done the same.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/08/wikileaks-struck-a-deal-with-israel-over-cable-leaks/
If that were true, then a lot more people would be joining the Metagovernment.
...is that those companies are consistently described as "failing to support" while in fact they took offensive, aggressive action, which is something a whole lot different. They chose a side in what might be described a digital war, in fact, they helped start it.
it would be much better to simply stop using paypal and use moneybookers (or similar) instead. iirc, it has smaller fees, and its very good.
I could never quite figure-out how Children go into 4Chan to pretend to be 30 to 50 years old and share their pictures with other children at the same age or younger, and then the Feds monitor the thread and arrest anyone that just happens to be older than the Children when they see the CP trolling them in to discussion. This is why when I avoided all manners of relationship with fellow students when Iwas in Elementary School all the way to High School, because I was traumatized by stories of a random 21-year-old being thrown into jail and "into" the system because s/he had a relationship of any kind with someone that they grew-up with within 3 or 4 years older or younger then them.
Dutch Kid: "How did they find me? I was behind seven proxies!"
and has been for a while, but the rampant use of "anonymous" in conjunction with shit like this will ensure that 4chan will never recover from the cancer. now people think we're all political moralfags, ever since project chanology. stain on the (once) good name.
This is the demonstration in support of Julian Assange:
http://gallery.korrespondent.net/kyiv/2719-svobodu-dzhulianu-assanzhu-posolstvo-ssha-v-kieve-piketirovali-poklonniki-wikileaks
here they are, the "hackers from Eastern Europe".
Don't mess around with this 'Anonymous', or else they might blow up your computer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkAngvkWVkk&feature=related
Hang on just a second... Are they saying that downloading LOIC is now illegal? Are they out of their minds? LOIC originated as a fully legitimate network stress-testing application, ioutlawing it because it's been used in these attacks is like outlawing pool cues because they're sometimes used in barfights...
Ridiculous
Question: Isn't the secret membership list of Anonymous exactly the sort of thing that WikiLeaks would publish?
Life, the Universe, and Everything... in my image.
...purports to come from "ANON OPS," even though Anonymous disclaims any central spokesperson or entity.
Without any central spokesperson or entity, who can disclaim anything?
You have the right to remain sentient. If you give up the right to remain sentient, you will be elected to public office
For my money, this post opened my eyes. He pulls up some history to compare Abbie Hoffman of Chicago 7 fame and the Yippie movement he led to the modern-day Anonymous/4channers:
http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=abbie_hoffman_would_have_loved_4chan
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ej2g4/js_loic_the_webapp_version_for_maximum_damage/
Advancing the tech is part of the anonymous.
Downloading LOIC is enough to get convicted? Of what? Using sourceforge.net? Last I checked, tools such as these are not illegal...
...and prosecute.
UK is a fascist state
Oh, don't be silly. Of course they're a group. Group, group, group. A group of very definite people who aren't anonymous and who commit deliberate deeds. Under the law, they are a conspiracy, i.e. a group of people planning and executing crimes. They don't have to know anything more than each others' nicknames for that. They are a group. They sa And the media is whitewashing them terribly -- and so are many of you. http://3dblogger.typepad.com/wired_state/2010/12/major-media-white-washing-4chan-anonglobalpr-agitprop.html
Seriously. I read on the web and hear on the news how Anonymous "crashed Visa.com and Mastercard.com"! Oooh! What a terrifying demonstration of their power! Let me check... Nope, both sites still up. Supposedly their next target was Amazon.com. If that was even true in the first place, the attack was ineffective.
C'mon folks -- These guys are a joke. They're not an awe-inspiring force of Internet destruction. They're an annoyance, a mosquito buzzing in your ear. So they took down a website for a moment or two. Like those sites have never been down before. The sites come back up, the world goes on. I doubt the majority of credit card customers were even aware anything had happened.
Face it, the only reason these kids are gaining so much attention is because the story sounds good on the news.
------RM
"You will dress only in attire specially sanctioned by M.I.B. special services. You'll conform to the identity we give you. Eat where we tell you. Live where we tell you. From now on, you'll have no identifying marks of any kind. You will not stand out in any way. Your entire image is crafted to leave no lasting memory with anyone you encounter. You are a rumor, recognizable only as deja vu, and dismissed just as quickly. You don't exist. You were never even born. Anonymity is your name, silence is your native tongue. You are no longer part of the system. You are above the system, over it, beyond it. We're "them." We're "they." We are the Men in Black."
Only problem is, these boys are identifiable via their IP address they are leaving behind.
You're a fucking liar
Anecdotal evidence of course.
Yeah right- the user name you chose somehow tells me that you are involved with that group.
I'm sure you meant ANGELS.....not ANGLES....
Learn2spell.
Now TITS OR GTFO.... ....and Ron Jeremy for president.
There are 2 groups of people you can make fun of on the Internet without fear of attack. The illiterate, and the Amish.