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NFL Teams Considering IPads To Replace Playbooks

bonch writes "Pete Walsh, technology head for the Dallas Cowboys, says he and other teams are considering iPads and other tablets as a replacement for paper playbooks, saving about 5,000 pages of printouts per game. Not only is it a huge savings in paper, but a lost iPad might also be remotely wiped to prevent a team's plays falling into the wrong hands. One concern is security and whether or not a tablet could be wirelessly hacked."

289 comments

  1. Maybe for dome teams by mykos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good luck using it with gloves on

    1. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Players don't generally read the playbook on the sidelines unless they're on the bench, at which point they generally take their gloves off since it's equally difficult to flip through a book with gloves on. On another note, they would need to get some deal with apple to let them side load the playbook though since I'd imagine not many teams would want to submit their playbook for approval to the app store.

    2. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Kneo24 · · Score: 1

      Why not transfer it via other means? Why even bother having apple in the equation?

    3. Re:Maybe for dome teams by peragrin · · Score: 1

      all you have to do is cut the tip off a finger. Or you know they make things called fingerless gloves with mittens that flip over them. Just have someone sew one for a single finger.

      I would be more concerned with battery life. NFL games take longer than Baseball for less action.

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    4. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just use a stylus like this:
      http://www.tenonedesign.com/checkout.php?product=Pogo%20Sketch

    5. Re:Maybe for dome teams by LordKronos · · Score: 2

      There are actually gloves available that will work with the ipad.

    6. Re:Maybe for dome teams by beelsebob · · Score: 1

      What makes you think that the playbook needs anything more complex than emailing a pdf to the players?

    7. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Cwix · · Score: 0

      They make special gloves for using with the ipod/pad, and why would they make a deal? Jailbreak and load, screw apple if they don't like it. Even if they did have to get the app approved, they could always just load the data files right before the game. Why would you have to send the actual plays to apple? I dont think any of the news paper apps have to get the content approved, just the actual app.

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    8. Re:Maybe for dome teams by LordKronos · · Score: 4, Informative

      On another note, they would need to get some deal with apple to let them side load the playbook though since I'd imagine not many teams would want to submit their playbook for approval to the app store.

      I'm pretty sure the developers license will let you load your own unreleased app directly onto your ipad, without having to submit it to apple.

    9. Re:Maybe for dome teams by cognoscentus · · Score: 1

      Amputation seems a tad drastic, even if it is to facilitate iPad usage... Still, if it's good enough for Ranulph Fiennes...

    10. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      They're made of lace and reach above the elbow - not really suitable for playing handegg.

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    11. Re:Maybe for dome teams by bay43270 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apple also supports enterprise app servers so the teams (or companies) can distribute their own applications internally.

    12. Re:Maybe for dome teams by dakohli · · Score: 1
      We had news items on them up here in Winnipeg, where it can be a real challenge when it's cold out.

      For those looking for a reference.

    13. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure you're wrong.

    14. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're made of lace and reach above the elbow - not really suitable for playing handegg.

      Lace gloves, they sound quite suitable for handegg. Along with some frilly dresses and some pretty handbags.

    15. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Karlt1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      On another note, they would need to get some deal with apple to let them side load the playbook though since I'd imagine not many teams would want to submit their playbook for approval to the app store.

      Companies can get an enterprise license that allows them to distriibute app internally.

    16. Re:Maybe for dome teams by drolli · · Score: 1

      Let me correct it:

      i am sure that Apple wants to have money for everything on the device, but without responsibility....

    17. Re:Maybe for dome teams by NekSnappa · · Score: 1

      Typical football games run between 2:45 to 3:15 hours.
      My iPad easily lasts for the 11 to 13 hour flight from Tokyo to D.C with usage of around 75% of the time.

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    18. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't need to lie to make friends!

    19. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check your contract. It says Apple has the right to revoke your apps' certificates without cause or warning. Lose the app, you lose access to your data.

    20. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      How do comments like this get modded up? By people who have an emotional grudge against Apple? Give me break.

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    21. Re:Maybe for dome teams by ArthurDA · · Score: 0

      Not my site, but plenty of options listed here: iPhone / iPad Gloves

    22. Re:Maybe for dome teams by ColdWetDog · · Score: 0

      Amputation seems a tad drastic, even if it is to facilitate iPad usage... Still, if it's good enough for Ranulph Fiennes...

      True, although watching US 'football' often makes me think of putting bamboo shoots through my fingers.

      In reality, all they need is a little conductive thread. I've done that to all my gloves for my iPhone. Works pretty well.

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    23. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... On another note, they would need to get some deal with apple to let them side load the playbook though since I'd imagine not many teams would want to submit their playbook for approval to the app store.

      Apple has an Enterprise Developer License which allows businesses to load their custom apps without submitting anything to Apple or the App Store.

      http://developer.apple.com/programs/ios/enterprise/

    24. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do they come in pink?

    25. Re:Maybe for dome teams by LDAPMAN · · Score: 1

      You, or anyone else, can distribute custom apps to yourself or your company.
      http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/apps/in-house/resources.html [apple.com]

      I'm continuously amazed at the people who think the App store is required for all Apps.

    26. Re:Maybe for dome teams by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Apple isn't asking for everything up to the knuckle. You just need to cut the tip off and send the resulting blood in to Apple, signifying your undying devotion to your iPad.

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    27. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure you could make good money at a circus with this "talking out of your ass" act...

    28. Re:Maybe for dome teams by milkmage · · Score: 1

      there is an enterprise distribution mechanism whereby apps can be distributed inside a corporation.

      I'm pretty sure the Mercedes Benz sales app isn't available for public distribution, nor are Salesforce's intranet apps.

      when my company was building our app... we were able to install it once our devices were "authorized" - extra layer of secuirty... even if you get the app, you can't run it unless your device is on the list.

    29. Re:Maybe for dome teams by jo_ham · · Score: 2

      That already exists - A corporate developer licence is available that enables you to push in-house apps to the iPhones and iPads under your control. It has been like this for some time, since before the iPad launched.

    30. Re:Maybe for dome teams by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      Well, this is slashdot - rapidly becoming the Fox News of the tech world. We're even capping it off by having a "healthy" complement of active climate change deniers to go with it.

      Never let something like facts (say, enterprise iOS management with in-house apps) get in the way of a good bash of your enemy.

    31. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Xtravar · · Score: 1

      Enterprise license.

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    32. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure Apple assumes everything on any device of them is theirs.

      How so?

    33. Re:Maybe for dome teams by rinoid · · Score: 1

      It's true, enterprises can side-load stuff onto the devices.

      Check chapter five chief.
      http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Enterprise_Deployment_Guide.pdf

      Now, can we correctly mod the post above? I'm pretty sure it's a troll.

    34. Re:Maybe for dome teams by romanval · · Score: 1

      And slashdot owns your post. :-P WRONG.

    35. Re:Maybe for dome teams by macs4all · · Score: 0

      They make special gloves for using with the ipod/pad, and why would they make a deal? Jailbreak and load, screw apple if they don't like it. Even if they did have to get the app approved, they could always just load the data files right before the game. Why would you have to send the actual plays to apple? I dont think any of the news paper apps have to get the content approved, just the actual app.

      You might want to take your own sig's advice: "You are entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts."

      If you bothered to learn anything before spewing your vitriolic rant, you'd know that Apple has an "enterprise" license that allows organizations to distribute custom apps internally without ever touching the app store.

      So, you have now demonstrated your considerable ignorance on the subject of iOS custom app development and deployment.

      I wonder what other uninformed rants you have made about iOS...

    36. Re:Maybe for dome teams by grapeape · · Score: 1

      Umm nope, actually a $99 dev license will allow you to create whatever you want and either submit it for the apple store or simply keep it for yourself. Many enterprise clients deploy private app servers just for this purpose and can with apples full blessing run their own suite of software. I've seen companies with less than 100 people do that already for inventory apps, im sure it would be no problem at all for the NFL.

    37. Re:Maybe for dome teams by macs4all · · Score: 0

      Well, this is slashdot - rapidly becoming the Fox News of the tech world. We're even capping it off by having a "healthy" complement of active climate change deniers to go with it.

      Never let something like facts (say, enterprise iOS management with in-house apps) get in the way of a good bash of your enemy.

      Mod parent up times a million. That is the most insightful comment ABOUT slashdot I have seen for several years.

    38. Re:Maybe for dome teams by pcolaman · · Score: 1

      Yeah and I'm pretty sure that the NFL wouldn't balk at licensing costs for enterprise licenses. Personally I think this is a good idea, as long as they can weather-proof the iPads. That's the only problem that I can see with this idea. Not that tons of games are played in bad weather, but it happens enough where it could be a problem unless a case that is waterproof but allows for use on the touch screen is developed. Either that, or the coach can stand next to someone holding an umbrella...

    39. Re:Maybe for dome teams by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Playbook reader software can be shared through the app store, each team would want the security around the "book" which would be a data file. Think Kindle App, and how that is useless unless you have a Kindle-formatted book.

    40. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, someone didn't know the ins and outs of enterprise licensing on your pet platform, and you go ahead and try to rip him a new one publicly? Right there is exactly why people think that Apple users are closed minded rabid elitist pricks who know nothing except how to get teabagged by Steve Jobs. People like you are why Apple is generally not taken serious in any discussions of technology. Woop dee doo, they had a popular phone with a built in iPod. Guess what... IOS is losing ground now because of the app store lock in and the arbitrary nature in which Apple blocks apps. If there is a reason that people distrust your perfect little happy rainbow land, it's because Apple earned that distrust over and over and over again.

      There was no vitriol in this thread until your post. And Civix's post was obviously opinion, so attempting to use his sig against him was disingenuous at best. I guess Apple fanboys fail when it comes to reading comprehension, instead they make troglodytic attempts at insulting people who disagree with them, or even people who (GASP!) didn't know some trivial detail! That MUST mean that they have a complete lack of respect or intelligence, just because they don't know EVERY SINGLE THING that you do!

      You have demonstrated your considerable ignorance on the topic of... well, you have just demonstrated your considerable ignorance.

      I wonder how many of the people you consider friends actually despise you and haven't gotten around to pushing you out of their lives completely yet.

      By the way, Civix was supporting using the iPad in this context. You went ahead and tore a new one out of someone supporting the technology you get a boner for.

    41. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the smug bullshit attitude that makes me swoon if I just stick my head in an Apple store. Hey buddy, you're making shiny toys into a FUCKING RELIGION!

      Man, what won't people fetishize to make them feel special?

    42. Re:Maybe for dome teams by bonch · · Score: 1

      You can get an enterprise license for in-house iOS development.

    43. Re:Maybe for dome teams by bonch · · Score: 1

      The NFL wouldn't be involved--the teams would pay for their own licenses. Also, how is paper less waterproof than an iPad?

    44. Re:Maybe for dome teams by bonch · · Score: 0, Troll

      Dear Civix (since you're posting anonymously to defend yourself),

      Ironically, in your totally insane burst of sweaty nerd rage, you illustrated many stereotypes of the basement-dwelling Apple-hater, complete with a random reference to Steve Jobs. If Apple isn't taken seriously in technology discussions, why are they one of the leaders of the industry that Google and Microsoft copy endlessly? Where Apple goes, everyone follows. That drives guys like you absolutely crazy, which is funny.

      iOS is losing ground? Uh, see you in line for a Verizone iPhone.

      Love,
      bonch

    45. Re:Maybe for dome teams by bonch · · Score: 1

      I love how correcting someone about enterprise iOS development is somehow a "smug bullshit attitude." You're obviously posting anonymously again to defend your post.

    46. Re:Maybe for dome teams by bonch · · Score: 1

      I guess in Slashdot-land, you can just respond to a fact with "I don't believe it."

      An enterprise license lets you avoid the app store and load whatever you want onto "any device of them." If you want to go through an Apple-hosted, public app store, then of course you must abide by certain restrictions, just as you must abide the restrictions of any other platform manufacturer, from Nintendo to Sony.

    47. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Cwix · · Score: 1

      Rant, vitriolic? Lol wut? I didn't say anything bad about Apple except, screw them if they don't like it. That's not even that bad. The only person here with a vitriolic rant was you.

      Ohh and my sig, the only thing I portrayed as fact was the fact that there are special gloves you can get for the ipod/pad. Everything else is obviously an opinion.

      So take your damn chill pill, hell go get you some weed or something and calm the hell down. Ohh, and I'm trying to be nice today.. so have a wonderful super bowl Sunday.

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    48. Re:Maybe for dome teams by bonch · · Score: 1

      That's for the public store. Any other anonymous paid shills going to show up? They do in every Google and Apple article to post in support of Android and against iOS, and there's a reason they do it anonymously. They're already littering these comments with misinformation.

    49. Re:Maybe for dome teams by bonch · · Score: 1

      After Android, Slashdotters switched from critical but supportive of Apple to virulently and emotionally anti-Apple. They're the people standing in the corner of a party with their arms crossed, bitter that everyone else is having fun, calling them "sheep" under their breath.

      There are also a suspiciously high number of anonymous pro-Google/anti-Apple supporters in every article, and a few Google employees have confirmed that they have accounts here.

    50. Re:Maybe for dome teams by firewood · · Score: 1

      On another note, they would need to get some deal with apple to let them side load the playbook though since I'd imagine not many teams would want to submit their playbook for approval to the app store.

      All the data doesn't need to be submitted with even an App store iPad app (other than test data for review). Apple has a WWDC 2010 video on this concept, data driven app design.

      A team could put a playbook app in the App store (with, say, historical plays for gamers to use for their fantasy team), but only upload the real playbook content (as long as it's not executable code and not interpreted code other than Javascript) in some password protected manner, and store it in a database for offline use.

      No special deal with Apple required.

      They could also use Enterprise app distribution from their own private app store to player/employee's iPads.

    51. Re:Maybe for dome teams by macs4all · · Score: 0

      This is the smug bullshit attitude that makes me swoon if I just stick my head in an Apple store. Hey buddy, you're making shiny toys into a FUCKING RELIGION! Man, what won't people fetishize to make them feel special?

      I AM special. Just like everyone else.

    52. Re:Maybe for dome teams by macs4all · · Score: 0

      Dear Civix (since you're posting anonymously to defend yourself),

      Ironically, in your totally insane burst of sweaty nerd rage, you illustrated many stereotypes of the basement-dwelling Apple-hater, complete with a random reference to Steve Jobs. If Apple isn't taken seriously in technology discussions, why are they one of the leaders of the industry that Google and Microsoft copy endlessly? Where Apple goes, everyone follows. That drives guys like you absolutely crazy, which is funny.

      iOS is losing ground? Uh, see you in line for a Verizone iPhone.

      Love, bonch

      Actually Ciwx posted later under his own name. So it really WAS an Anonymous COWARD that had the "sweaty nerd rage." Just wanted to clarify. Ciwix's reply was far more even-tempered, and even included a comment meant as a kind of "olive branch" at the end, LOL!

      Otherwise, I agree with you completely. In his rant about my rant about the OP's rant, the AC demonstrated FAR more "vitriol" than either Ciwx or myself (which is both funny and sadly typical here in slashdot-land).

    53. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's wonderful for companies with over 500 employees. Otherwise Apple won't let you do it.

    54. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice to see that you remember this is the internet. It was probably an attempt at an AC troll rather than anyone's real opinion.

    55. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Companies can get an enterprise license that allows them to distriibute app internally.

      Isn't it amazing, what we have to do just to load OUR OWN APP ONTO OUR OWN COMPUTER.

      That's exactly why I avoid apple.

    56. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just use the tried and true method of having one App and making the 'playbooks' documents. As they would probably be making the documents on the App it self I wouldn't see this being an issue. If the playbooks are loaded on as pdf files they wouldn't even need a custom App.

    57. Re:Maybe for dome teams by pcolaman · · Score: 1

      Proof I know you've never seen an NFL game. They laminate the paper. This makes it waterproof.

    58. Re:Maybe for dome teams by jcr · · Score: 1

      There are several vendors already offering gloves that work with touch screens.

      -jcr

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    59. Re:Maybe for dome teams by jcr · · Score: 1

      not many teams would want to submit their playbook for approval to the app store.

      They wouldn't have to. They can set up their own deployment server, just like any other business does. See here.

      -jcr

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    60. Re:Maybe for dome teams by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Wow, that is amazingly generous of Apple.

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    61. Re:Maybe for dome teams by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Or, to put it another way, you have to pay Apple in order to download programs you have written yourself onto your own hardware.

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    62. Re:Maybe for dome teams by tophermeyer · · Score: 1

      I don't know exactly how the businesses are structured, but it seems totally possible that NFL teams could have 500 employees.

      And I'm sure Apple would bend the rules just a little bit for the publicity associated with putting their toys on the sidelines of every NFL game.

    63. Re:Maybe for dome teams by s122604 · · Score: 1

      Well, that would be ok, if the goal is to make what is basically an electronic version of what they have now (although arguably harder to quickly navigate)

      Given the complexity/length of NFL playbooks, it would be a shame to digitize it, without taking advantage of advanced search features, menu features, dialogs/multimedia.

      A lot of would could be done, would exceed what any sane person would want to try with pdf...

    64. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Phoghat · · Score: 1

      What kind of iOS n00b are you? The iPod glove has been around 4 evah

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    65. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yep the no sideloading == no sideloading without fee.

    66. Re:Maybe for dome teams by recharged95 · · Score: 1

      Gosh, this article is boiling with flamebait.

      Reading in the sun?
      Snow/Rain?
      Gloves (as prev. post mentioned)?
      Humidity?
      Drops/Whacks?
      WiFi likely suck in a stadium during game time?
      Viewing angle (try showing it to everyone in a circle)?
      Durability (when the coach throws it on the ground on a bad call)?

      Oh, and the required Gatorade dump test. Gatorade + ipad == lost game.

    67. Re:Maybe for dome teams by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      On another note, they would need to get some deal with apple to let them side load the playbook though since I'd imagine not many teams would want to submit their playbook for approval to the app store.

      That's why they offer an enterprise license for $299 for ad hoc distribution.

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    68. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Wovel · · Score: 1

      Some special deal like the Enterprise App Store that has existed for several years now?

    69. Re:Maybe for dome teams by Wovel · · Score: 1

      Who cares about Wifi during the game, gloves is a silly issue, the viewing angle is great, and there is a single case that addresses all the rest of your "concerns".

  2. Uh... by Serenissima · · Score: 1

    Turn the wireless function off
    Duh???

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    1. Re:Uh... by vlm · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Turn the wireless function off

      Duh???

      The "Duh" part is being worried about the wireless, merely because wireless is "new and trendy" to the non-technical masses. The part to worry about is the itunes running bot infested keylogger installed windoze box it syncs and backs up to. Or whatever backend system they're using, perhaps they're just planning on front ending google docs, hope no one share those files to the wrong person.

      Also its "easy" to embed watermarking for each individual printout (stupid example, much better exist, player #28 gets 28 extra spaces scattered thru his printout) As far as I know, no one has a system like that for an ipad, so you simply loan the ipad to your new best friend and while you're busy cashing your check, he's busy taking untraceable snapshots of the ipad displaying each page with his cellphone or fancier camera. I've never tried placing my ipad platen down on my photocopier, must try this when I get a chance....

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    2. Re:Uh... by snookiex · · Score: 1

      And how are they going to check the baseball scores?

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    3. Re:Uh... by Graff · · Score: 1

      Also its "easy" to embed watermarking for each individual printout (stupid example, much better exist, player #28 gets 28 extra spaces scattered thru his printout) As far as I know, no one has a system like that for an ipad, so you simply loan the ipad to your new best friend and while you're busy cashing your check, he's busy taking untraceable snapshots of the ipad displaying each page with his cellphone or fancier camera.

      It's just as easy to do with the iPad, or any device for that matter. When you hand out the file you change the data in such a way that it's watermarked. It doesn't matter if at that point someone copies it, that's why you watermark it - to identify who it was copied from.

      iOS also has per-application locking and encryption so the NFL can make their own app and secure the data on it. It's actually very easy to write a simple app to display files, it wouldn't cost very much or take that much time to implement.

    4. Re:Uh... by vlm · · Score: 1

      It's just as easy to do with the iPad, or any device for that matter. When you hand out the file you change the data in such a way that it's watermarked. It doesn't matter if at that point someone copies it, that's why you watermark it - to identify who it was copied from.

      Disagree. There are no off the shelf solutions for that on the ipad. Were you talking about hiring interns to do that manually, by hand? OMG.

      iOS also has per-application locking and encryption so the NFL can make their own app and secure the data on it

      "secure the data" seems a wee bit optimistic. What, does it use the front facing camera that doesn't exist to do image analysis to blank the screen when the ipad cam that doesn't exist sees what looks like a camera lens taking pics of the screen? or when it sees a guy with an old fashioned pen and paper writing notes while looking at the screen?

      Face it, its about as secure and untraceable as hanging posterboards in the locker room. Paper was a little tiny bit more traceable when properly watermarked with off the shelf software.

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    5. Re:Uh... by Graff · · Score: 1

      There are no off the shelf solutions for that on the ipad. Were you talking about hiring interns to do that manually, by hand?

      How do they do it before the iPad came around? They either had interns do it manually or they had a program that does it for them, then they printed the result and handed out the copies. Now with the iPad they generate a document and hand it out to people to display on the iPad. It's about the same really.

      "secure the data" seems a wee bit optimistic. What, does it use the front facing camera that doesn't exist to do image analysis to blank the screen when the ipad cam that doesn't exist sees what looks like a camera lens taking pics of the screen?

      The data is as secure as paper in that aspect. Even more secure, actually, since the iPad can be locked and erased remotely when stolen, unlike paper...

  3. Re:Everything can be hacked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Clearly it was hacked once before...

  4. ios has to much apple back doors and other stuff by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 0

    ios has to much apple back doors and other stuff that the NFL will not like. Android is better as the they can side load and don't have to deal with any apple BS.

  5. iPad makes zero sense by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Kindle, on the other hand, makes total sense.

    iPad is total overkill, Kindle is way way WAY cheaper and does all the same things that they need to do.

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    1. Re:iPad makes zero sense by LordKronos · · Score: 5, Funny

      Kindle, on the other hand, makes total sense.

      iPad is total overkill, Kindle is way way WAY cheaper and does all the same things that they need to do.

      You are probably right. The NFL pays their player multi-million dollar contracts, but I'm sure they'd squirm when they saw the $500-700 price tag on the ipad.

    2. Re:iPad makes zero sense by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You are probably right. The NFL pays their player multi-million dollar contracts, but I'm sure they'd squirm when they saw the $500-700 price tag on the ipad.

      There's no reason to waste money. If they use iPads it'll be because Apple paid them to do so (possibly just free hardware and support, possibly advertising revenues.) In fact the press release which stimulated this article (didn't even RTFA but I'll bet you a dollar that there was one) is probably nothing more than a public solicitation for bribes.

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    3. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      really? Kindle can via pictures and videos of recent plays? Animated graphics? Custom applications? cool.
       

    4. Re:iPad makes zero sense by vlm · · Score: 1

      Kindle is way way WAY cheaper and does all the same things that they need to do.

      Like scroll around really fast and zoom in on some weird detail? Hmm, I think not.

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    5. Re:iPad makes zero sense by rolfwind · · Score: 1

      Are you joking? Considering what they play the players, some iPads are pocketchange if it does what they want, refreshes way faster, and they probably can get custom apps made to change plays on the fly and other functions they need.

      Not sure if Kindle is pincode protection yet or anything although remote wiping has been proven by Amazon a while back. The one thing a kindle will be better at might be sunlight readability (even then, when I owned an earlier one, the glare of pure, direct sunlight just made any screen impossible to read).

      In any case, cost probably is not the primary consideration.

    6. Re:iPad makes zero sense by UnknowingFool · · Score: 0

      Apple will pay them? HA! I don't know if you've noticed but Apple doesn't need the NFL to do anything for them. They're selling quite well without paying any company or business to endorse their products. As for wasting money, there are benefits: Saving paper, better distribution of information, etc. Just because you don't have a use for one (I don't have a use for an iPad either), doesn't mean there are no benefits for someone else and that it is "wasting money".

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    7. Re:iPad makes zero sense by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      So they're going to do "custom applications" just for a playbook? Is this something that a single team is going to take on all by itself or is the entire league going to develop this.

      Of course there are a lot of details that are being left out and being conveniently ignored by those that revel in their own ignorance.

      Most likely, the NFL will just want to use some pre-existing canned app that isn't necessarily specialized to their particular situation.

      Since this is about some sort of "book", then any generic book or document handler would likely do.

      You would think that "jocks" would be less inclined to "geek out" over new and overpriced electronic gadgets.

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    8. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Junta · · Score: 1

      I love my eReader and have no interest in a tablet, but a non-touchscreen, slow refresh device would not be particularly useful in this context.

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    9. Re:iPad makes zero sense by altinos.com · · Score: 1

      Don't games like Madden already have something like this for consumers? Hell, for cheap animations, they could just do it all in a PowerPoint presentation. Assuming you can view PowerPoint on an iPad.

    10. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Locutus · · Score: 1

      I doubt it would be the money but the sunlight readable display is probably the most important feature they seem to be glossing over. A PixelQi display based tablet would be better since they could do video nicely also. And you know there'll be a Madden app so the coaches can draw X's and O's live all over the display. It's about time really. Tablets are not new tech and they could have been using larger and heavier Windows based tablets for years if they really cared to. IMO

      LoB

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    11. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Graff · · Score: 1

      I doubt it would be the money but the sunlight readable display is probably the most important feature they seem to be glossing over.

      Actually they are very concerned with people using binoculars and other means of viewing the playbooks remotely so they often use some form of cover to shade it from prying eyes. This would also work to shade from the sun, making a sunlight-readable display less of a concern.

    12. Re:iPad makes zero sense by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Yep, it's all about the ad dollars. The "Motorola" microphone you see the coaches wear is actually not made by the company, and made to be bigger than it has to be so the logo would fit, you see much smaller microphones being used by other people. Motorola makes radio systems, but to leave the logo only on the transmitter wouldn't make it seen.

    13. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why not the RIM device

      after all they do call it Playbook

    14. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Posting=!Working · · Score: 2

      Yeah, Apple doesn't need the NFL for anything. They explained this clearly in last year's iPad commercial during the Super Bowl.

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    15. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 0

      They're selling quite well without paying any company or business to endorse their products.

      Do you think that those prominent apple logos on the gear you see in so many TV shows are put there out of the kindness of the producers' hearts? It's called product placement, and despite any spin you might hear from Apple spokesmen, you can bet that there was compensation in some form.

      As for the NFL, I'm sure that Motorola has to pay a pretty penny to get the head coaches to wear those butt-ugly monster headphones that serve as billboards for the batwing logo.

    16. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kindle, on the other hand, makes total sense.

      iPad is total overkill, Kindle is way way WAY cheaper and does all the same things that they need to do.

      should use playbook by RIM

    17. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really aren't thinking far enough ahead. So now you have a playbook that's updatable, you can now link in game footage, scout reports, etc. A tablet becomes a much more powerful tool than the paper books or a Kindle could be. A jailbroken Nook would do the job, but as a corporate entity, jailbreaking or other gray areas are something you'd rather avoid. Odds are good a number of the players already possess an iPad or other type of tablet.

    18. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure what TV shows you watch but if a character is visibly using a macbook the apple logo is commonly covered, at least partially.

    19. Re:iPad makes zero sense by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Just because you don't have a use for one (I don't have a use for an iPad either), doesn't mean there are no benefits for someone else and that it is "wasting money".

      They're using the device to replace reams of paper. They don't need to play Angry Birds.

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    20. Re:iPad makes zero sense by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      We're talking about playbooks. They don't have weird details. They have simple diagrams designed for maximum readability in the field. Remember, they have complete control of the material in question. Try to stay on topic.

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    21. Re:iPad makes zero sense by spudnic · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ever try to read an iPad in the sun? If they do this and go with anything other than an eReader we will all know it is a publicity stunt.

      And what about when it snows or rains? Do they print out copies of the playbook just in case, or hand out ziplock bags?

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    22. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Incorrect. The Kindle is Monochrome. Most playbooks are in full color these days.

    23. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apple pays top money to have their products placed anywhere a TV camera might catch them. It's called product placement and it has been around for years.

    24. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Duradin · · Score: 1

      Who needs color anyways?

    25. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Graff · · Score: 1

      Assuming you can view PowerPoint on an iPad.

      There's at least one iOS app that can view PowerPoint:

      Keynote

    26. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's an absurd position to take. GG anti-apple zealot.

    27. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apple will pay them? HA! I don't know if you've noticed but Apple doesn't need the NFL to do anything for them. They're selling quite well without paying any company or business to endorse their products. As for wasting money, there are benefits: Saving paper, better distribution of information, etc. Just because you don't have a use for one (I don't have a use for an iPad either), doesn't mean there are no benefits for someone else and that it is "wasting money".

      If the alternative is having millions and millions of people see on TV their favorite NFL players and coaches using non-Apple products on the sidelines during a game, you'd better believe Apple will pay up.

    28. Re:iPad makes zero sense by edumacator · · Score: 1

      It's only covered if the company doesn't have an agreement with Apple. Why give them free advertising when they can get paid for it?

    29. Re:iPad makes zero sense by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      Are you saying football players can't read?

    30. Re:iPad makes zero sense by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

      Yup. Might be time for ruggedized e-readers to enter the market; I'm sure lots of parents will want to buy them for their kids. (Especially if it's the kids' SECOND e-reader, after the first experienced a misfortune.)

      Further, why risk information being retrieved from an e-reader before a remote wipe could be performed when the reader can access the information from a server live?

    31. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Draek · · Score: 1

      So? what advantage does the iPad provide over the Kindle? obscenely rich corporations for the most part don't get obscenely rich by wasting money "just because".

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    32. Re:iPad makes zero sense by EETech1 · · Score: 1

      I would think the iPad would run circles around it for flipping through plays. The Kindle has a very slow screen refresh and unless you got to every play by keyboard combinations,or someone else in the booth just pulled up the right screen for you, I think the Kindle would be too slow bringing up the plays (pages) to be used in a game.

      Every time you enter a letter, the whole screen needs to redraw, with the iPad, you could have easy to navigate menus that would get you where you needed to go much quicker than the Kindle.

      (only used a Kindle @ BestBuy once)

      Cheers!

    33. Re:iPad makes zero sense by UnknowingFool · · Score: 0

      There is a huge difference in selecting optimal time for a commercial and working with a company to endorse your product. If that time happens to be the Super Bowl, then that's when companies would select. If it was the World Series or the President's State of the Union address then companies would advertise then.

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    34. Re:iPad makes zero sense by UnknowingFool · · Score: 0

      The use of logos and trademarks requires companies to pay for their use. I don't know if you notice that many shows cover up logos as much as possible. As for Motorola, the market for those headsets is quite small, and the major reason Motorola would pay is advertising for the company, not the product. That's why the freaking logos are so big.

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    35. Re:iPad makes zero sense by grapeape · · Score: 1

      Thats not likely to be an issue though, ever see an nfl sideline in direct sunlight? I sure havent, usually with outdoor stadiums the bowl's height is enough to shade the sidelines unless the sun is directly overhead, so the number of games affected would those with outdoor stadiums on sunny days with the 1 o'clock start window on the east coast. As for weather proofing...considering the roughness of the game to start with I would imagine they would be keeping then in something like an otterbox anyway.

    36. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Are you joking? Considering what they play the players, some iPads are pocketchange if it does what they want

      Just because a business - and that's what NFL franchises are - is forced to pay a lot for things largely outside its control doesn't oblige it to be profligate where it doesn't need to be.

      Quite the opposite, in fact.

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    37. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1, Informative

      The use of logos and trademarks requires companies to pay for their use.

      Right, as in Apple pays to get the logos featured in the shows.

      I don't know if you notice that many shows cover up logos as much as possible.

      Right, because Apple didn't pay those particular shows. The TV producers aren't in the business of giving out free advertisements.

    38. Re:iPad makes zero sense by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      We're talking about playbooks. They don't have weird details. They have simple diagrams designed for maximum readability in the field. Remember, they have complete control of the material in question. Try to stay on topic.

      And you're saying that a coach never points out a part of the play and possibly diagrams something? My understanding that Kindles only have simple graphics. Can they handle animations which may be a feature that extend the capabilities beyond simple playbooks? At best, the Kindle may be able to replace playbooks as is; they don't extend it in any way.

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    39. Re:iPad makes zero sense by UnknowingFool · · Score: 0

      What you're not understanding is cause and effect. Some companies actively seek product placement; some do not. However if the product is shown purposefully or accidentally, the show has to pay the company. Most shows chose not to show logos because they don't want to pay.

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    40. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Sir_Sri · · Score: 1

      with an iPad you could load up the play into a game (or at least a game engine), and have it actually show the play. Most of the NFL players have a strong background in games now, only makes sense to show it to them in 3D if you can.

    41. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2

      What you're not understanding is which way the payment flows when you see products featured on TV:

      Payment goes From Apple, To the TV producers. Got it?

    42. Re:iPad makes zero sense by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      except the kindle is way more fragile than an iPad. and you can't make changes on the fly with a Kindle the way you can with a touch screen.

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    43. Re:iPad makes zero sense by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Kindle can't show animation or videos of the play being run... which would be useful in this case.

    44. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could enhance your playbook to include a video of the X's and O's moving around, to show how the play develops. iPad is only overkill if you are replacing a playbook verbatim. If you want additional features, like say, a size you don't have to squint at, perhaps an iPad would be better.

    45. Re:iPad makes zero sense by theurge14 · · Score: 1

      With the iPad they can play Madden 11 while they're riding the pine.

    46. Re:iPad makes zero sense by bonch · · Score: 1

      iPad makes "zero sense?" Did you read the article, discussing animations, videos, full-color illustrations, and more? Seriously, how does an iPad make zero sense?

      How did your post get +5 Insightful?

    47. Re:iPad makes zero sense by shawb · · Score: 1

      So they're going to do "custom applications" just for a playbook?

      Now, they're going to do custom applications for a playbook which is difficult to hack or make unauthorized copies of.

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    48. Re:iPad makes zero sense by bonch · · Score: 1

      Do you think that those prominent apple logos on the gear you see in so many TV shows are put there out of the kindness of the producers' hearts?

      Macs tend to just look better than PCs, which matters for TV and film. Usually, you the Apple logo on the back is covered or replaced with a fictional alternative.

    49. Re:iPad makes zero sense by bonch · · Score: 1

      As if any of you are involved with television and film whatsoever and can speak on this.

    50. Re:iPad makes zero sense by bonch · · Score: 1

      So they're going to do "custom applications" just for a playbook? Is this something that a single team is going to take on all by itself or is the entire league going to develop this.

      Each team. I find it amusing that people seem so bewildered by the idea of developing a custom app. Football teams pay millions a year for player salaries, but it's impossible to believe that they'd write their own custom, secured, personalized playbook apps? Teams compete with each other technologically (e.g. training equipment), and if the Cowboys start using their own secret playbook app on the field, competing teams will develop their own to keep up.

      Most likely, the NFL will just want to use some pre-existing canned app that isn't necessarily specialized to their particular situation.

      What does the NFL have to do with this? What each team uses for its playbooks is up to the team. The NFL doesn't make that decision.

    51. Re:iPad makes zero sense by bonch · · Score: 1

      We're talking about playbooks. They don't have weird details.

      Okay, thanks for confirming that you don't know what you're talking about.

      Next.

    52. Re:iPad makes zero sense by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      No, not always sometimes the shows have to pay the company when a product it is used in the show. Otherwise shows could place any product they wished without retribution. Why do you think there are so many generic products in a show? Take for instance, a family eating breakfast cereal on a sitcom. They don't pass around Cheerios or Fruit Loops. They may pass around "Wheat Os" or some made-up product.

      Either way there has to be an agreement before the show uses said product. If the show does not get permission first, then the company has a viable lawsuit. There are many lawsuits that happen over product placement. On the side of caution, TV and film should not depict any products until they have permission. Who pays depends on who benefits most from the relationship. Sometimes the company wants their product and will pay for it. Sometimes, the show or film has to pay the company if the company is reluctant. Sometimes no agreement can be reached. For Toy Story, many of the toy companies were willing for their toys to be depicted. Barbie was not in Toy Story because Mattel refused to license the character. It wasn't until the success of the first film that Tour Guide Barbie was shown in the sequel.

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    53. Re:iPad makes zero sense by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

      Kindle, on the other hand, makes total sense.

      iPad is total overkill, Kindle is way way WAY cheaper and does all the same things that they need to do.

      Uh. You have to be kidding me. A Kindle is only useful for consuming information. There are no apps for editing/marking up documents. There is no colour support, not animation support and no app store.

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    54. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't think several million dollars a year isn't money wasted for throwing a ball around? $500 on top of that is a spit in the ocean.

    55. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      Usually, you the Apple logo on the back is covered or replaced with a fictional alternative.

      That's what happens for the particular shows where Apple hasn't greased the palms of the producers to get their logo featured.

    56. Re:iPad makes zero sense by node+3 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Kindle, on the other hand, makes total sense.

      iPad is total overkill, Kindle is way way WAY cheaper and does all the same things that they need to do.

      How does full-on nonsense like this get modded so high on Slashdot? Oh yeah, that's right, because it puts down Apple in some way...

      Kindle makes absolutely no sense. Kindle is a book reader, and flipping through pages is damned slow. With iPad, you can have fast, full-color, networked playbooks that you can edit in real time, draw on, zoom around. The absurdity of your post is not that Kindle isn't an overall better choice, but that it's difficult to even come up with a few ways in which it is. Maybe that the screen is a bit clearer in direct sunlight?

      As far as "overkill", the mics that the coaches wear probably cost more than your car. It's absolutely foolish to worry about $199 vs $499, or whatever.

      Or put another way, if you went to a team with a best-possible Kindle playbook system, and even a mediocre iPad playbook system, which do you think they'd pick? Let's say the iPad system had a 1000% markup, and you offered to pay them that same amount to use the Kindle system. Can't you see that they'd laugh the Kindle system out of the room? iPad is vastly superior to Kindle that it's not even funny.

      But hey, you put down Apple, and putting down Apple is seen as necessary around here to promote Android, so job well done. Here's to your +5, may sanity never rear it's ugly head around here ever again...

    57. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no reason to waste money. If they use iPads it'll be because Apple paid them to do so (possibly just free hardware and support, possibly advertising revenues.) In fact the press release which stimulated this article (didn't even RTFA but I'll bet you a dollar that there was one) is probably nothing more than a public solicitation for bribes.

      If Apple gave away half as much stuff as you keep claiming they did, they'd be broke by now.

    58. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only covered if the company doesn't have an agreement with Apple. Why give them free advertising when they can get paid for it?

      http://productplacement.biz/201003171033/news/movies/apple-invades-the-movies.html - I'll take the words of experts over yours anytime.

      And the company doesn?t pay for most of these product placements. Unlike its other marketing rivals, most of Apple?s appearances are unpaid for. The technology developer just readily supplies its products, and takes the exposure as a form of payment.

    59. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Locutus · · Score: 1

      Yes, it would be much more secure if nobody could see the display.

      LoB

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    60. Re:iPad makes zero sense by edumacator · · Score: 1

      My brother-in-law has been a grip on many films and TV shows. He's spoken about product placement several times. I'm curious what I said, that made you automatically assume I was making this up. Maybe you are involved and can shed light on something I said that was incorrect, or perhaps you are just cynical.

    61. Re:iPad makes zero sense by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If you're telling me that their playbooks have tiny text they can't read, I'm telling you're they're incompetent nimrods.

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    62. Re:iPad makes zero sense by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      Who pays depends on who benefits most from the relationship.

      That's right. And in the case we're talking about, which is an incidental prop in a TV show that just as easily be replaced by a Dell, HP, Samsung, or whoever is the highest bidder, the computer manufacturer pays.

      Nobody's talking about making a feature length movie based on the exploits of an animated anthropomorphic iPad.

  6. Not a huge deal. by magamiako1 · · Score: 1

    Just load everything locally onto the tablet, don't load plays over wifi--and they'll be good.

    Honestly, they're no more or less secure than someone stealing your playbook at that point.

    1. Re:Not a huge deal. by GIL_Dude · · Score: 1

      I'd imagine they would use the iPad for more than just the static plays. For example, when watching the game, you always see the players and coaches going over printouts of things that have been happening directly in the game being played (taken from above in the "booth") - seeing how the other team's defense reacts to certain formations, etc. The iPad could easily replace this function and could even include video instead of only static pictures of this. However, they would need to have the connectivity turned on in order to make use of it for the in-game updates.

    2. Re:Not a huge deal. by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      WiFi is mostly able to be secured anyway. Just use WPA2 encryption, and only let the plays be loaded at the already authorized-personnel-only areas so a WiFi hacker would have to cross over a "What are you doing here anyway?" problem.

      To break WiFi you have to capture a lot of packets, which means the hacker has to have some sort of radio of their own in the WiFi range for a good amount of time. It's not as easy as TV makes it look.

  7. How does this work now? by timeOday · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I didn't know they have a different playbook every week. What do they actually do with them? If the 5,000 pages is copies for half a dozen coaches, that's almost 1000 pages each, which I can't imagine they're flipping through between plays. Or is it 50 pages for each of 100 players and coaches? But that doesn't make sense, I can't imagine they're memorizing 50 pages of plays per game.

    1. Re:How does this work now? by alostpacket · · Score: 1

      You'd also think a nice zoom lens on a camera at the right angle could capture the info needed for what most snooping eyes needed. Also, I suppose it's due dilligence to worry about wireless hacking, but maybe they should get an Adroid and cook their own ROM with stronger/different encryption? I also cant imagine they havent been using any sort of tablet PC with some type of stylus before the ipad came along. Either way, an IPad, a tablet, or whatever, they should be fine if they take the right precautions.

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    2. Re:How does this work now? by Servaas · · Score: 1

      Your over thinking it, they just want iPads.

    3. Re:How does this work now? by kenh · · Score: 1

      Every player gets updates to their playbook, and there are as many as 100 playbooks "in circulation" before a game. Remember, it's nice if the coaching staff knows the plays, the players HAVE TO know the plays.

      5,000 pages by 100 playbooks means a very manageable 50 pages per player, per game. I suspect they include full-page diagrams of the opposing teams plays, along with a page dedicated to an analysis of the play.

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    4. Re:How does this work now? by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      One offensive coordinator's playbook I just read was 700 pages. So that's only one half of the playbook, and they often put in additional packages when they play a team for the second time or in the postseason, or just to make adjustments for what they can do well as the season progresses. 1,000 pages when you combine offense and defense is totally believable.

    5. Re:How does this work now? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Fifty pages of data isn't that much. Humans can memorize that. This isn't Pop Warner football where the team has four plays.

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    6. Re:How does this work now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's kind of sad that the average NFL player (whom /.'ers love to hate on so much) read more per week than the average Slashdotter.

      Note: I don't like football either; I didn't even know there was a superbowl coming up until someone told me yesterday.

    7. Re:How does this work now? by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      It's also a copy for every player on the roster, not just the coaches. That puts the average size closer to 100 pages a reader.

    8. Re:How does this work now? by arnott · · Score: 1

      I think they print pictures from the previous play and discuss it with the quarterback and the defense. I have seen on TV a quarterback discussing with a black and white picture of the field (especially after an interception), and once a commentator said it was from the previous play. Instead of printing the plays, they can use the iPad.

    9. Re:How does this work now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not an entirely new set of plays. It's a different mix of plays depending on the team. Perhaps Pass A needs to go left instead of right because your opponent today has a weak side. More over the middle plays to take advantage of weaker short defense. Defensive plays set more against the pass than the rush, etc etc. It does boggle my mind how many plays they need to know by heart though. You'll hear the announcers when one of the O line pushes the wrong way, closing up what should have been a hole.

    10. Re:How does this work now? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You've clearly never played the game, because typically a playbook consists mostly of diagrams - pictures, to you.

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    11. Re:How does this work now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are three sets of plays: offensive, defensive, and special teams. To reduce the number of books that can get lost/stolen, all three types of plays are bound into a book.

    12. Re:How does this work now? by xclr8r · · Score: 1

      My HS football team had 30+ plays for offense alone and we had to memorize those. Granted some of them were the same play with slightly different formations but I can easily see a pro team having 50+ pages of plays.

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    13. Re:How does this work now? by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      Then you're underestimating the amount of memorization and mental horsepower needed to be a pro football player. Don't worry, you're in good company.

      Look at the playbooks in http://fastandfuriousfootball.com/?page_id=11

      2005 Saints offensive playbook, as an example.
      146 pages. Generally a good 20-50% of these plays get tweaked EVERY WEEK against each opponent, based on the individuals playing on the opposing teams, and their strengths/vulnerabilities. Then those tweaks also have to be adjusted/learned for the probable backups for the players. Many of these plays vary based on the defensive formation that's apparent, and may change at the last second due to a formation switch (defense) or an audible call by the QB.

      The quarterback has the toughest job, he basically has to know all the plays, variations, tweaks, and changes for ALL of the RB's and receivers. If the play is a 23 dive, the RB might be originally planned to go to the QB's right, and the QB will need to hand off with his left hand, but if THAT linebacker lines up someplace else, the RB may go to the OTHER side which will require the QB to hand off to the other side with his other hand. QB has to interpret the play, parse that, and apply it.

      A lot of armchair enthusiasts who never played football after high school have no comprehension of how complex and involved the game is, even at the college level, and that's NOTHING compared to the pros.

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    14. Re:How does this work now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't imagine they're memorizing 50 pages of plays per game.

      That seems entirely reasonable given that it's their JOB which they get paid millions of dollars a year to do. Hell, they didn't change as often but our playbooks were about that size in high school.
       

  8. Remote wipe seems good by tripleevenfall · · Score: 2

    There are numerous stories just related to my favorite team that involve lost plays or playbooks. One story involved a coach who was talking with a bartender late one night and diagrammed a play on a napkin, which was later scooped up by a fan of the opponent and passed on. Another was a prominent running back who lost his playbook halfway through the season, and it reportedly fell into the hands of a division rival. Remote wipe might be quite useful.

    1. Re:Remote wipe seems good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Problem is, simply turning the thing off and turning it on again somewhere where there is not free wifi available will render the whole remote wipe thing useless. If they really cared they'd encrypt the information they want private.

      I suspect this whole thing is about people wanting a new toy to play with rather than anything else.

    2. Re:Remote wipe seems good by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      Exactly. A new toy or PR trick.

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    3. Re:Remote wipe seems good by macs4all · · Score: 0

      Problem is, simply turning the thing off and turning it on again somewhere where there is not free wifi available will render the whole remote wipe thing useless. If they really cared they'd encrypt the information they want private.

      I suspect this whole thing is about people wanting a new toy to play with rather than anything else.

      For so-called "tech" folks, Slashdotters, by and large, are some of the biggest tech luddites around.

      Advantages of a tablet over a paper playbook (notice I didn't mention iPad, because your comment is just "paper vs. tablet" argument, and so I am hoping (probably in vain) that this will keep the Anti-Apple rhetoric to a minimum) :

      1. Animation. I guess you could design your paper playbooks like "flipbooks", and get some limited animation that way, but that of course isn't done. WIth a tablet, an animated playbook is trivial, and can easily include such niceties as 3D-rotate-able views, the ability to "highlight" a particular player (like oneself, ferinstance) so that that person can follow their desired movements through the play more easily, much more "lifelike" animations (no more stupid X's and O's), etc.

      2. Additional, on-the-spot streamed video/audio can be incorporated. Can be encrypted and narrow-casted as a stream to players as desired. Try that with a paper playbook.

      3. Same for real time textual messages. Greatly expands on the concept of the coach's communications "headset" that has been pretty much standard issue for years. Again, allows much more real-time communication between coach and team than a simple paper playbook.

      4. If the current play or next-few-upcoming-plays are transmitted in a secure manner to the team as needed, there is no "stealing and copying a playbook", as the entire playbook isn't in any one player's (or coach's) hands at any one time. Of course, there really isn't a PRACTICAL way to do this in real-time with a paper playbook.

      5. The possibility of a coach (or quarterback) creating a completely new "play" on-the-spot, and being able to demonstrate that (again, using animation) to the players right on the field. I admit that probably isn't a typical situation; but it would be more practical with animation. Of course, this isn't practical with a paper playbook. You can use a whiteboard in the locker room, but this method has the option of being available on-field.

      6. The ability to use the device as a telecommunications port with a headset while still acting like a playbook. Utterly impossible for a paper playbook.

      So, far from being just a "new toy to play with", a tablet-based "coach's PDA"-type app could provide some real, tangible strategic benefits to the team who embraces the technology.

      Open your mind. Think, THEN post...

    4. Re:Remote wipe seems good by macs4all · · Score: 0

      There are numerous stories just related to my favorite team that involve lost plays or playbooks. One story involved a coach who was talking with a bartender late one night and diagrammed a play on a napkin, which was later scooped up by a fan of the opponent and passed on. Another was a prominent running back who lost his playbook halfway through the season, and it reportedly fell into the hands of a division rival. Remote wipe might be quite useful.

      Or, even more useful, don't have the entire playbook in the possession of any one person at any one time. If we can design communications protocols that are secure enough to transfer billions of dollars around the world everyday, we certainly can apply those same techniques to design a secure server-client "playbook" system. That way, even if someone actually can decrypt ONE play, that's ALL they get. More like, if they can actually decrypt one PACKET of the communication of one PLAY's "transmission", that's all they get.

      MUCH more secure than having the entire playbook roaming about ANYwhere. Now, all you have to do is to keep the coaches and players from making their passwords "PASSWORD" or their daughter's name, etc. But that is no more difficult than keeping them from leaving their play written on a napkin left on the table at the local pub. And if the NFL wants to get really serious about security, they can adopt some of the high-security authentication methods already used by some corporations (and military?), like the little credit-card-sized thingies that display a password that changes every 30 seconds, etc). MUCH easier than keeping a "double-agent" from putting the playbook through a photocopier. Other server-side "reasonability" checks could be used to keep someone from downloading an entire playbook as well, such as limiting the number of different plays that could be viewed by one user within a certain period of time, keeping someone from viewing more than [x] number of sequentially-numbered plays, etc.

      So, as you can see, having to resort to a "remote wipe" to achieve security means that your security has a flawed design from the start. The best way to handle the theft of a device with sensitive data, IMHO, is to keep that device from actually HAVING the sensitive data, or at least more than a tiny fraction of it, in the first place.

      Of course, some unscrupulous IT person at the server end might sell you out; but every single electronic data archive (and in fact every single "sensitive" data repository) has this problem. But it is much easier to figure out who gave a thumb drive of the team's entire playbook to the "enemy" when there is only one "complete" (and encrypted!) copy (on a secured server and its secured, encrypted backups), and only one or at most a very small number of people with access to said (encrypted!) files.

      Did I mention "encrypted"?

  9. Oh, good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More ways to confuse Chad Henne.

  10. Weather? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny

    This article reminded me of the classic 1970s Xerox ad. But what would they do in weather like that? Maybe they plan to always play in domed stadiums.

    1. Re:Weather? by Graff · · Score: 1

      This article reminded me of the classic 1970s Xerox ad. But what would they do in weather like that?

      Obligatory:

      iPad waterproof cases.

  11. Bad day for RIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a lovely twist of irony, RIM's would-be iPad killer is actually CALLED the "Playbook".

    1. Re:Bad day for RIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That would only be ironic if acting as a playbook was the one thing it wasn't capable of doing.

    2. Re:Bad day for RIM by slshwtw · · Score: 1

      However, Walsh said that one delay in the implementation of the shift is that the iPad isn't seen in the NFL's technology circles as being secure enough yet. That's why tablets, such as the Samsung Galaxy Tab, or others running the Android operating system could end up being selected if teams, or the NFL, decide they're more secure.

  12. Not a bad idea. by Elbart · · Score: 1

    As they can be used for other activities during the upcoming lock-out.

  13. IT Staff for a football team? by digitalhermit · · Score: 1

    I don't know what the typical IT staff is for an NFL pro team, but I expect that they have some folks dedicated to electronic and computer equipment, etc.. Setting that stuff up in a constantly changing remote station can be hairy.

    The problem may not be the physical control of the devices themselves, but all the different versions and retention policies. With a printout you can physically hand in a document and have it checked off as returned. Sure, people can photocopy or scan it, but that's a lot more difficult than just downloading a file. Stealing a physical playbook involves physical access. Stealing a playbook, getting it to the opponent, and verifying that the evidence is gone after it's used is even more difficult.

    Add tablets and I would imagine that the users would put not only playbook information on it, but also emails and other documentation. Imagine if a pending trade is made public? And unlike paper, stealing a document now no longer means trying to get by some burly security guards.

    Go Dolphins.

    1. Re:IT Staff for a football team? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      If I were an NFL coach, I would purposely WikiLeak a fake playbook, that the opposing team could download.

      Quarterback: "Blue 39, Red 17!

      Opposing Team Defense Player: "Hey, isn't that supposed to be a run? Why are they passing? They totally screwed us on that play."

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    2. Re:IT Staff for a football team? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      With a printout you can physically hand in a document and have it checked off as returned. Sure, people can photocopy or scan it, but that's a lot more difficult than just downloading a file.

      Couldn't some of the techniques of DRM be used to make it only readable on that specific machine?

      Plus there's all manner of logging, phoning home and stuff you could add.

      Sure, an expert could get round those, given time. But that's time you can use to change your plays, rendering the information obsolete.

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    3. Re:IT Staff for a football team? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I were an NFL coach, I would purposely WikiLeak a fake playbook, that the opposing team could download...

      What makes you think that has not happen.

      Remember "totally screwed" in this case might mean a long pass completion or possibly a touchdown. What coach wouldn't want that play-action pass (best leaked as a running play) to be even more effective.

      I'd be wondering if this is to the point where all professional coaches would be dismiss all leaks as the football version of "Operation Fortitude". If they wanted to get good information they would have their own staff do the spying...possibly with a camera.

    4. Re:IT Staff for a football team? by milkmage · · Score: 1

      " but all the different versions and retention policies"
      i'll bet there's no problem with versions because in addition to learning the playbook, you have to EXECUTE the plays.. every day, at practice. someone runs the wrong route on a play... the coaches will point it out. ..and remote wipe is a disticnt advantage over paper when mitigating damage due to loss/theft.

    5. Re:IT Staff for a football team? by xclr8r · · Score: 1

      You don't even need to have them turned back in. There are expiring document files. See the text book industry for college e-books that have expiration dates.

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  14. Inspector Gadget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should use self-destructing cards.

  15. take the batteries out or put it in a faraday cage by lkcl · · Score: 1

    duhh! all you have to do is get it out of the premises, then follow disassembly instructions. why not just put "free ippad, here!" on the screens? honestly :)

  16. Chips in the players' brains by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    Can't the NFL just plant chips in the players' brain that can store all the secret stuff in the playbooks? I'm sure that innovative countries like India and China can do this.

    Probably.

    Watch the next cricket match with India, and get suspicious when the players start banging their heads during the games. Of course, maybe a country with ~billion folks can field an excellent cricket side?

    Now, with American Football, some linebacker, 6 foot tall (~2 meters), and weighing 240 pounds (~120 kilograms), is able to shove the guy from the other side on his ass, he should be able to use a pocket scanner to read the chip in the other guy's brain.

    Maybe the rules will be changed to prevent implants?

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    1. Re:Chips in the players' brains by NevarMore · · Score: 1

      Can't the NFL just plant chips in the players' brain that can store all the secret stuff in the playbooks? I'm sure that innovative countries like India and China can do this.

      Yes if only there were some way for us to use a brain and store information in it. Some sort of memory perhaps? Theres a lot of space up there in the skull, storing all that information might take some time, but I bet it could be done. Maybe some repeated loads and checking or testing to make sure it was stored properly would be in order.

    2. Re:Chips in the players' brains by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Maybe some repeated loads and checking or testing to make sure it was stored properly would be in order.

      Thank you, whenever somebody asks me to do something that I don't want to do, I will say, "Sorry, I'm defragmenting my brain right now."

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  17. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

    I guess they'll just choose from that bevy of high quality Android tablets out there.... oh wait.

  18. Wireless hack of iPad? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    Now a days the video cameras are so tiny, so hidable and with WiFi built in too. It would be far easier to find a vantage point over the practice field of the opponent and smuggle in and hide a camera and tape the practice sessions. Most of the plays are acted out and explained by the coaches in the field. Also you could see the weakness of each player by the amount of practice time spent and repeated on a particular piece of work. Just by looking at the line up you may be able to guess the play.

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    1. Re:Wireless hack of iPad? by milkmage · · Score: 1

      been there, done that.

      $50k fine for the coach and the team - Broncos/Niners London 2010
      http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20101127/sports/101129637

      Half a MILLION fine for the coach, quarter mil for the team plus loss of first round draft pick.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_National_Football_League_videotaping_controversy

  19. Mon-Sat yes, Sun no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Security is not an insurmountable deal, but:

    1) Size. Too small for showing plays to a group

    2) Speed. ChangIng apps (or sections of an app) costs a few seconds, which will not be tolerated in a timeout, not when paper and dry erase are instant.

    3) Screen problems. Day games are sunny; night games are almost ad bright. The iPad's screen does not do well in those conditions. The viewing angle especially is awful; in a sideline gathering of players, the players not directly in front won't be able to see a thing.

    4) Durability. Weather, accidents, histrionic coaches, tantrums, and Gatorade bats. NFL teams certainly have the cash to replace them, but no coach is going to accept waiting while the gofer fetches a replacement.

    Tablets are a natural replacement for playbooks Monday->Saturday, but they have a long way to go to be sideline material.

    1. Re:Mon-Sat yes, Sun no by macs4all · · Score: 0

      Security is not an insurmountable deal, but:

      1) Size. Too small for showing plays to a group

      2) Speed. ChangIng apps (or sections of an app) costs a few seconds, which will not be tolerated in a timeout, not when paper and dry erase are instant.

      3) Screen problems. Day games are sunny; night games are almost ad bright. The iPad's screen does not do well in those conditions. The viewing angle especially is awful; in a sideline gathering of players, the players not directly in front won't be able to see a thing.

      4) Durability. Weather, accidents, histrionic coaches, tantrums, and Gatorade bats. NFL teams certainly have the cash to replace them, but no coach is going to accept waiting while the gofer fetches a replacement.

      Tablets are a natural replacement for playbooks Monday->Saturday, but they have a long way to go to be sideline material.

      Size: How big of a "group" are we talking about? How big do you think a PAPER playbook is? And for "locker-room" playback, the iPad supports VIDEO OUT for using a larger display device.

      Speed: You are simply talking out of your ass, here. No more comment needed. With whiteboards and dry-erase markers, you have to take time to DRAW and ERASE, so what's your point, again?

      Brightness: You may have a point here; but have you ever seen a huddle? Pretty effective at blocking sunlight/stadium lights.

      Viewing angle: Well, if you'd actually check out the specs on the iPad, instead of simply ASSUMING it uses the same shitty TN panels all the also-ran tablets use, you'd know that the IPS panel used on the iPad has a 170 degree viewing angle in all directions. It's damn-near as good as a piece of paper in that regard. Seriously, dude. Go check one out. You'll be amazed at what an IPS-based tablet display looks like.

      Durability: This one I worry about myself, but just a little; It's really a non-issue, because any iPad used in this manner would most certainly be housed in one of the billion or so available sleeves, cases, pouches, etc. that exist for the iPad, and thus adequately protected from anything but being crushed under a pile of disgruntled Android fans. (Sorry, couldn't resist!)

      Personally, I would think that an iPod Touch would be a better choice, because it is more easily stuffed into a coach's pocket; but the iPad has a longer battery life (I think), and a bigger display (think "animation"), and thus probably makes more sense overall in this application.

      So, what were your objections, again?

  20. NBA was first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the Washington Wizards of the NBA already does that

  21. studies show greed/fear/ego cause inhumanities... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lack of conscience etc... instead of dismissing/criticizing things we do not yet understand, & forcing OUR gov.media to constantly raise the hate/fear levels about folks that are just like us, while they're being shot at by one of our premier 'business partners', there's plenty for US to be wary of/change immediately. see you on the other side of it? after the baby feeding is caught up, & we stop being persuaded to live in the grandest of isolations.

  22. Re:take the batteries out or put it in a faraday c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Battery is built in. Apple decided that like all of their devices - form over function.

  23. What part of SECURITY don't you understand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A PDF can be easily transferred and distribute. Passwords on a PDF can be cracked in seconds with open source tools.

    1. Re:What part of SECURITY don't you understand? by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Passwords, maybe. Certificates, I doubt it.

    2. Re:What part of SECURITY don't you understand? by perpenso · · Score: 1

      A PDF can be easily transferred and distribute. Passwords on a PDF can be cracked in seconds with open source tools.

      Its more likely the reader app will be a customized app with multiple layers of security. An enterprise app locked to specific iPads and distributed internally, data internally distributed and encrypted, etc.

  24. Can I take the opportunity to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ...that whatever your feelings about Apple and it's products, I hope you can all join me in wishing that their co-founder and figurehead Steve Jobs croaks really quite soon. If you care about freedom and love computers then it goes without saying that this is what many of us have been hoping for.

    1. Re:Can I take the opportunity to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should be hearing helicopters right about now.

  25. Can Apple ban the NFL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they wanting to use a custom app for this?

    Is Apple going to let them?

    It's so nice to see such rich companies falling all over themselves to submit to Apple's ridiculous policies.

    More likely, they don't know about that insanity yet, or think it doesn't apply to them.

  26. In the other news.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Apple changes the rules so playbooks can only be distributed via iTunes(tm) inStore(tm) iPay(tm) and not downloaded or copied from any other source. They also activated the iFuse(tm) to permanently disable the iPort(tm) on all iDevices(tm) to fight playbook piracy, billions of people loose their jobs (muahahah) due to PlayBookPiracy!

    1. Re:In the other news.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the 30% cut Apple would ask for on the NFL revenue.

  27. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

    As opposed to the bevy of high quality iPads out there? In a month or two there will be at least as many high quality Android tablets on the market as there are iPads.

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  28. Perfect Season for the Patriots by wdhowellsr · · Score: 1

    Belichick is drueling over this. If the NFL goes with I-Pads I'm sure the Patriots will win the next five Super Bowls and be undefeated each season.

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  29. Waste by vlm · · Score: 1

    saving about 5,000 pages of printouts per game. Not only is it a huge savings

    Somehow, I'm getting the feeling that 5000 pieces of paper is not the only, nor largest, waste resulting from the professional sports industry.

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  30. no real savings by pz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So 5,000 pages of paper. That's one case (actually 1/2 a case if you assume duplex printing). Buying high-quality paper, that's going to be $50 or less ($25 for half a case).

    An entry-level business-grade B&W laser printer costs maybe $500, will handle 100,000 pages in its lifetime, and takes toner cartridges that print between 7500 and 15000 pages each at about $200 each retail. Being a little excessive and buying a new printer per season, a case of paper per game, and a new toner cart every other game, you get 500 (cost of one printer) + 1 (cases of paper per game) * 16 (games) * 50 (cost of one ream) + 0.5 (carts per game) * 16 (games) * 200 (cost of one toner cart) = $2900, or an amortized total cost of $0.36 per page. And that's being very generous on retail costs and consumables. I routinely print conference proceedings (18k total pages) for an amortized total cost for closer to $0.05 per page by shopping around even just a little. If they're printing in color, I'd expect the amortized total cost to be between 2 and 3 times higher, so, with a little work, perhaps $0.15 per page, but still well under the generous estimate of $2900.

    Each iPad costs, what $500? And they need what, one per player, coach, assistant coach, owner, etc.? The so-called savings are a slight-of-hand distraction. They just want iPads.

    Even if you were to say that the saved paper, not money, was really the issue, and that saving 16 cases of paper (probably 8, since if they're concerned, they'd already be printing duplex) was important, I'd point to the 10-or-so tons of recycled material per game that envionmentally conscious teams like the Ravens are capable of (http://www.mdstad.com/content/view/96/42/) that dwarf one (1/2) case of paper.

    Again, they just want iPads.

    As the linked article suggests, there are many things you could do with iPads that you can't do with a traditional printed playbook, like review plays, run simulations, etc., but the teams should be upfront with that and not toss the public a propaganda bone like paper savings that can be shown to be irrelevant in the bigger picture.

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    1. Re:no real savings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again, they just want iPads.

      http://www.connectingbristol.org/2010/02/11/cambridge-council-clarify-ipad-position/

      "The Head of Policy and Planning at Cambridge believed that the financial and carbon benefits of deploying the technology could outweigh the relatively small financial outlay."

      If mobile devices were useful to NFL teams they would already be used.

    2. Re:no real savings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're assuming they'll be buying the iPads at retail instead of Apple giving some, possibly all of them away as a promotional item in exchange for advertising or other marketing.

  31. Great idea by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

    Bill Belichick gets them hacked before the first game.

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  32. Human Factors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, I would be surprised if either was used (outside of an over-hyped trial period). It's kind of like the "paperless office" idea where everything sounds nice and efficient, but human beings still work well with paper documents and if all you care about it running a business well, it doesn't necessarily add up to real savings to do what is mathematically better.

    It's hilarious to watch people try to use their iPads on trains, buses, or just walking around. Large tablet devices seem to be better suited for sitting on a couch (which I guess would explain how all the advertising around here is with users sitting, holding it on their bent knee). I suppose the NFL could use smaller devices, but now you're making an unnecessary compromise, since paper does not need to be smaller to be as mobile.

    Also, on a humorous-yet-realistic note, what's the savings (monetary and environmental) cost of not using a bunch of paper, when you're having to constantly replace smashed tablets?

  33. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, chose a platform whose central theme is malware. Brilliant.

  34. About time by paiute · · Score: 1

    During the game, the QB is often seen reviewing formations from plays just run - as overhead photographs of the field faxed down from the team box high in the stands. That's cutting edge for the 1970s. The offensive line, whose members have the highest IQs on the team, sit on the bench while a coach yells/encourages/coaches them. With a tablet like an iPad, the staff could send down video of the previous plays with audio and onscreen comments. The linemen, running backs, ends, etc, could all get specific instructions and adjustments.

    The playbook could be more than static Xs and Ox - the formations would move, the concepts could be illustrated with game footage of your team and opponents. You could show how plays are supposed to go using Madden emulations. You could show what to look for happening across the line from a field level vantage.

    Players drive to the stadium to review films with their position coaches and coordinators. With a tablet, communal film viewing could be complemented by the players watching any game film any time they want.

    Sports often seem to me to be behind the curve when it comes to utilizing tech. When a pitcher comes out of a baseball game and wraps his $10 million a year arm in a towel to try and keep it at the optimal temperature, I shake my head.

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    1. Re:About time by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      I think it's part of the draw of sports that they don't utilize all the technology they can. The idea that it's just a raw man vs. man contest. Also, FIFA trys hard to make sure the game the pros are playing is the same game you can grab your mates and a ball and head down to the park and play. Introducing all that techy stuff makes it harder for Joe Average to try and pretend he's Drew Breeze when he's running around with his kids.

  35. Perfect for the New York Jets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The head coach of the Jets would be logged onto foot fetish sites checking out ladies' bare feet into the night, and when the other coaches stopped by he would quickly switch to the game plan.

  36. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ios has to much apple back doors and other stuff that the NFL will not like. Android is better as the they can side load and don't have to deal with any apple BS.

    Actually, if you read the specs iOS has Android beat hands down for security features. And what exactly are these back doors? I can't seem to find a reference to them anywhere.

  37. So who actually plays an NFL game? by OzPeter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is it really the teams themselves or is it just one playbook pitted against another and the players are just there to provide some colour?

    It seems as if the NFL could just be replaced by a large D&D session with the refs as the DMs

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    1. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by OG · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Much of the excitement in football (as in all sports) comes from watching humans with tremendous talent who spend a huge amount of time developing that talent. Like any other sport, strategy is important. But the strategy is partially built around the strengths and weaknesses of the actual humans who make up the team, as well as those of the members of the opposing team. I'm not a huge football fan, but I recognize the difference between multiplying a fairly arbitrary number representing "will" or "skill" by the random roll of a die and a team of people who are fatigued, injured, and withstanding adverse weather conditions, pushing themselves to the utmost limit not only for themselves, but for their team and the millions of people cheering them on towards victory.

    2. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      Much of the excitement in football (as in all sports) comes from watching humans with tremendous talent

      But in pretty well all other sports, the action is not constrained to set plays that are over in a matter of seconds, with significant time between plays to allow regrouping of the team to modify tactical plays. The USA's version of football is more akin to chess that any other countries version of football.

      I'm not a huge football fan, but I recognize ... a team of people who are fatigued, injured, and withstanding adverse weather conditions, pushing themselves to the utmost limit not only for themselves, but for their team and the millions of people cheering them on towards victory.

      Compare the USA's version of football with the European's Soccer. In the US the game lasts hours, yet the actual time in play of the ball is significantly less, but there will almost be a 100% chance of a win or loss, and you have the luxury of swapping offensive and defensive lineups. In Soccer the ball is in play for 90 minutes and the players have to keep going knowing that in all likely hood they game could end in a draw and all the players are on the field for the entire time. How much more mental dedication do you need to stay focussed for 90 minutes compared to a game where you have downtime every couple of minutes and only half your team is playing at any one time?

      And on another topic which is really a pet peeve of mine (and nothing to do with your post). IMHO - Sport is something you play. Entertainment is something you watch.

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    3. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by Reverberant · · Score: 1

      In Soccer the ball is in play for 90 minutes and the players have to keep going knowing that in all likely hood they game could end in a draw and all the players are on the field for the entire time.

      Yes the players are on the field for the entire time, but there are substitutions, and they aren't all going full speed the whole game (for example when the ball is on one side of the field).

      How much more mental dedication do you need to stay focussed for 90 minutes compared to a game where you have downtime every couple of minutes and only half your team is playing at any one time?

      You're talking about a game that is played under every imaginable type of weather condition (football games are generally only canceled or delayed when the weather poses a danger to the fans rather than the players) where for every play, the player (at the higher levels) may have 2-8 different options they have to perform depending on what the opposing player does, they have 1 to 3 seconds to decide which option they perform, they have to deal with the elements (sun in their eyes, rain/snow/ice making the field or ball slippery, traction on the turf, etc), one mistake can result in points for the other team or (tragically) severe injury to themselves or another player. American football certainly isn't a game you can play on cruise control.

    4. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      You're talking about a game that is played under every imaginable type of weather condition (football games are generally only canceled or delayed when the weather poses a danger to the fans rather than the players) where for every play, the player (at the higher levels) may have 2-8 different options they have to perform depending on what the opposing player does, they have 1 to 3 seconds to decide which option they perform, they have to deal with the elements (sun in their eyes, rain/snow/ice making the field or ball slippery, traction on the turf, etc), one mistake can result in points for the other team or (tragically) severe injury to themselves or another player. American football certainly isn't a game you can play on cruise control.

      I'd suggest that you need to study up on how other other forms of football are played, how their players are conditioned and under what conditions games are played - and I don't mean just soccer. Also consider Rugby (multiple forms), Australian rules and Gaelic football for example. Then get back to me.

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    5. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You cannot develop talent. Talent is innate to a person and is something you are born with.

      What NFL players have is a tremendous amount of skill.

    6. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by j-beda · · Score: 1

      You cannot develop talent. Talent is innate to a person and is something you are born with.

      What NFL players have is a tremendous amount of skill.

      My 10 year old just returned from school with a quote from one of his teachers. Something to the effect of "Talent is the ability to practice." or maybe it was "Talent is the desire to practice". In any case, the success seems to come from the practice rather than inborn ability.

      None of the research I have seen supports the idea of "innate talent" in any field - from chess to coding to violin abilities, if you put in a few thousand hours of good practice you will become highly skilled, and without those thousands of hours you won't be. Pick a field and apply 3 hours of day towards it and in ten years you should be pretty darn good.

      In any case, yeah, those NFL players are pretty darn skilled. And a damn sight more driven than myself.

    7. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That might make sense if you were playing the game with robots instead of humans, but humans are individuals and they all have different strengths and weaknesses (both physical and mental). Even if your team knows what play the other team is going to run, you still have to stop them.

    8. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by Reverberant · · Score: 1

      You wrote:

      In Soccer the ball is in play for 90 minutes and the players have to keep going [...]

      You commented on soccer, I responded to your comment about soccer. If you meant one of the other forms of football, your comment should have reflected that.

    9. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why bother? Is there some reason he should feel obligated to participate in your mental masturbation? Everyone gets it, you don't like football. Good for you! Go enjoy something else then.

    10. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      You commented on soccer, I responded to your comment about soccer. If you meant one of the other forms of football, your comment should have reflected that.

      Well given hat your concept of substitutions in soccer seems naive at best - there are 3 per max total compared to entire offensive and defensive lineups in American football - it seems your education is lacking, so I suggested that you review how other codes are played.

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    11. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it really the teams themselves or is it just one playbook pitted against another and the players are just there to provide some colour?

      It seems as if the NFL could just be replaced by a large D&D session with the refs as the DMs

      The next Slashdot article will be "Recent developments in dressmaking technique". Your thoughtful comments and advice, please.

    12. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by Reverberant · · Score: 1

      Let's see:

      • Comment about Sport A vs Sport B
      • Response to comment about Sport A vs Sport B
      • "You don't know anything about Sport A, so you should look at Sports X, Y, and Z (even thought the original comment had nothing to so with Sports X, Y, and Z).

      Seriously??

      In any event, the response to the question "How much more mental dedication do you need to stay focussed for 90 minutes compared to a game where you have downtime every couple of minutes and only half your team is playing at any one time??" "not necessarily any because of the unique aspects of those two games (including weather conditions, injuries, skillsets, reactions times, endurance, substitutions, etc)."

      "How much more mental dedication do you need to stay focused in [some other sport] compared to American football" is a different question that someone else can answer.

    13. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      This is so funny. In the first paragraph of the post you initially responded to I compared American football to other sports in general. Now you castigate me for my generalised comparisons.

      Excuse me why I step out of the way of you whaaaambulance.

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    14. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      So it's like baseball, except the plays in baseball are shorter, there is no range of strategic plays - just a set of rules reacting to the ball flight and men on base - and the overall play time for a game is shorter, though the games take longer to complete.

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    15. Re:So who actually plays an NFL game? by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      So, does that mean that you think they call off soccer games if it's raining, or if the sun might get in someone's eyes? Do you think that soccer doesn't involve responding to what the other team does? Do you think the other team can't score in soccer? Do you think you can't get injured playing soccer?

  38. Issues aren't insurmountable by The+Living+Fractal · · Score: 1

    All they really need in order to deal with rain and snow, etc, is a decent protective case. All they really need for the touch interface issue is simply don't use it. Instead, just plug a simple tactile device into the USB that attaches securely to the side of the case. Honestly, I think a bunch PSP style devices would work better for this though.

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  39. Playpad Cracking by sixthousand · · Score: 0

    If game time system penetration had some substantial and direct influence on the outcome I might finally take an interest in football. Especially if it were taking place across the field with lots of indiscreet high power directional antennas and such. A few playbook honeypots might REALLY make things interesting.

  40. Re:iPad does video by MikeMo · · Score: 1

    iPad, on the other hand, can show the plays in motion (per TFA), could show the last play in near real-time, and do other things besides show a static paper replacement. That's the whole point of the iPad. Of course, if all you do is read books, the Kindle is great. But they can do SO much more with the iPad - like write their own, team-centric apps.

  41. Replace it? by gmf · · Score: 1

    I thought the PlayBook wasn't even released yet, and they're already thinking about replacing it?

    (a confused BlackBerry user)

    1. Re:Replace it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Har har har...

  42. Custom Aps? by flogger · · Score: 1

    IF the NFL goes this way, I want to see their playbooks in the Ap Store. If I can;t make my own custom Aps without apple getting all pissy about me doing it, I better see the NFL Playbook there.

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    1. Re:Custom Aps? by LDAPMAN · · Score: 1

      You, or anyone else, can distribute custom apps to yourself or your company.
      http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/apps/in-house/resources.html

      I'm continuously amazed at the people who think the App store is required for all Apps. You can complain about it not being free, as in beer, but don't complain that it can't be done.

    2. Re:Custom Aps? by dwightk · · Score: 1

      true

      plus,

      why would this be an app?

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    3. Re:Custom Aps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure you can, you just need a developer or enterprise license.

  43. Isn't that what the BB Playbook is for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Playbook could be the ultimate playbook killer!

  44. Greener ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Paper can be made from recyclable materials and can be grown and made from grass instead of wood pulp. Please let me know which trees lithium and aluminium grow on and how quickly these "magical materials" disintegrate in a waste dump. An average Ipad will be used for a year. This is not environmentally friendly. I will take 5000 sheets of paper made from grass and even wood pulp over IPADs in this case.

    This is a stupid argument. Yes it's convenient: let's call a kettle what it really is --- Black.

  45. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prove it. Otherwise, your statement is FUD.

  46. Re:iPad does video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm particularly fond of the part where it allows other people to steal a copy of the playbook and no one would even know one was missing.

  47. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 1

    In a month or two there will be at least as many high quality Android tablets on the market as there are iPads.

    Um, that would be one. There is one iPad at the moment. Sure, there are a few different configuration options (more GB's and/or 3G connectivity), but there is only the 1st generation iPad right now. If you mean units then they better sell a shit load in the next two months.

  48. Concern? by silverdr · · Score: 1

    "One concern is security and whether or not a tablet could be wirelessly hacked."

    Yeah - whether or... what?

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  49. 'benefit' by cratermoon · · Score: 1

    Interesting that someone has found the ability for your iPad to be wiped remotely without your knowledge to be a "benefit".

    1. Re:'benefit' by Xuranova · · Score: 1

      Would you prefer it prompts the person (in their case the person who took the ipad) if they would like to allow the remote wipe to occur? 0_o

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  50. Security by StDoodle · · Score: 1

    On the subject of securing their playbook, I would think the best thing to do is to assume that the wireless network WILL be compromised, and design around that. Simply load the playbook physically (or over a more secure, non-publicly accessible network) onto each device. Transmitting play information could be done wirelessly, but you wouldn't transmit the play itself. Rather, a hash of the play ID and the timestamp. Make sure the app has built-in protection against "double-post" errors, and use decent encryption, and the wireless issue should be moot. Not to say there won't still be security concerns at other levels, but they should be fairly analogous to those that already exist.

  51. nobody's using paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    last i knew they were all using laptops because of the availability of video and animations. have been for years.

  52. Revoke internally developed corp apps? by perpenso · · Score: 1

    Check your contract. It says Apple has the right to revoke your apps' certificates without cause or warning. Lose the app, you lose access to your data.

    You seem to be referring to public apps distributed on the App Store to the general population. However there are also corporate apps that are distributed only to those within the organization and not to the public in general. The rules are likely to be quite different for the later.

    More importantly the current playbook is not likely to be an app. Perhaps its just a PDF or data for custom app.

  53. So these things work well by objectdisoriented · · Score: 1

    in freezing rain, -15f temperatures, being dropped every so often, taking the occasional hit when action leaves the field of play?

    I guess they could just have stacks and stacks of replacements on the ready.

    Excess (especially with technological toys) is probably as American as football. After all, the best solution is the shiniest one that generates the most revenue for other companies, right?

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    1. Re:So these things work well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in freezing rain, -15f temperatures, being dropped every so often, taking the occasional hit when action leaves the field of play?

      Same thing applies to the TV cameras on the sidelines as well. I dont think it will trouble themtoo much to have a room full of spare iPads.

  54. What a mess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So now someone can wirelessly steal your playbook, and you're saving 5,000 pages of paper while there are still tons of leaflets and crap on the ground everywhere and on the windshields in the parking lot. Great job.

  55. RIM PlayBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You do realize that RIM has a PlayBook coming out. Makes for a confusing headline..

  56. Thwart wireless hacking secret: disable wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just in case someone couldn't figure that little tidbit out.

  57. Already started in college. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its the reason Ndomukong Suh donated iPads to the Nebraska football team. Its my understanding that they've been moving to copmuterized means to study the play book and game film for a look time.

  58. Up next... by McTickles · · Score: 0

    Find out which toilet paper brand NFL teams prefer!

    The joy of american entertainment, very high value indeed!

  59. Bright Sunny Sunday Afternoon by awitod · · Score: 1

    I think an e-ink device like the Kindle makes more sense. You can't read an IPad worth a darn in bright sunlight.

    1. Re:Bright Sunny Sunday Afternoon by macs4all · · Score: 0

      I think an e-ink device like the Kindle makes more sense. You can't read an IPad worth a darn in bright sunlight.

      And you can't do ANIMATION at ALL on e-ink.

      Next uninformed comment?

  60. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by dwightk · · Score: 1

    aw man, until I read this comment I was thinking of getting an iPad, but since I can assume from what you are saying there is no way to read .pdf s on the iPad I guess you saved me a lot of headaches.

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  61. How do I rate down a story? by DogDude · · Score: 1

    How do I rate down a story with this new Slashdot? NFL, Inc. using iPads? Who fucking cares?

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  62. Fartknocker by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    apple back doors

    Huh huh. Heh heh. Huh huh.

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  63. Re:take the batteries out or put it in a faraday c by jo_ham · · Score: 1

    Yes, the "form" being "remove all of the space taken up by door mechanisms and clips/bays/docking connectors" and use that space to increase the size of the battery so the majority of users (who never replace their battery) get longer battery life. Thus, function *and* form for the vast majority of users.

    For those that need to replace the battery, it can be done at a service, or you can do it yourself with a third party replacement.

  64. And burn the same amount of energy or more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a cute idea, except they will probably burn as much or more energy then it takes to print those pages and make those pages, powering all those ipads. It's a wash on terms of energy conservation.

  65. What's it worth to you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > One concern is security and whether or not a tablet could be wirelessly hacked.

    Hmm. Depends on the incentive. Is there any money in sports?

  66. This is supposedly "News For Nerds", But... by macs4all · · Score: 0

    In reading the (non) erudite comments to this article, ALL I have seen is an excuse for (even more) Apple-bashing (are you Androids REALLY that insecure?!?). It is nearly impossible to find a comment that isn't "Apple is teh evilz!" nonsense (or someone correcting that idiocy).

    Where are the comments and questions like "Hey, that might be a good idea!", or "I wonder if it will be rugged enough?", or "Wouldn't the iPhone be better for this, since it is pocket-able?", or "This would be much better than printed playbooks, because it would allow playbooks to be ANIMATED", or even "Aren't they afraid that someone could watch a playbook play "play out" on the iPad over a player's shoulder"? BUT, NOOOOOOOO!

    instead, all (or the majority of commenters to Apple-centric articles) of the the supposedly "techie" slashdotters can worry about is how you "sign" a FUCKING PDF, fercrissakes, or (ignorantly ranting) "They will have to jailbreak their iPads to "sideload" (whatever the fuck THAT stupid term means!) the playbooks into their iPads." Or the just-as-ignorant "They'll have to submit their playbook apps to the App Store."

    Where is the intelligent discourse on the TECHNICAL merits (or lack thereof) of the topic? No, instead, it seems to be getting JUST like IRC (and the reason I stopped using it within about 30 days) : Just a bunch of whiny brats with arrested social development and nothing better to do, trying to back-bite and punish-mod (remember all the "nuking" and "banning" that went/goes on on IRC?) those who's OPINION with which they happen to DISAGREE.

    Slashdot is rapidly devolving into "News For Nerds, Comments that are irrelevant" status.

  67. Re:take the batteries out or put it in a faraday c by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    It's a tablet. Form is part of its function...

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  68. Worse for the environment. by w0mprat · · Score: 1

    Whats the point in the mention of saving paper? Gadgets like the iPad has the environmental impact of a lot of paper, many times it's weight in paper. Such a large ammount that I doubt the iPad would make real benefit to the environment before it becomes toxic unrecyclable e-waste in a year or two.

    Although energy intensive, paper is also a endlessly renewable resource, and close to 100% recyclable. Perhaps not in practice, but it could be.

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  69. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by MBCook · · Score: 1

    iBooks is free and reads them just fine. I'm sure there are non-apple apps too.

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  70. Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those ladies need to wear more pads.

    1. Re:Good idea by s122604 · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see you work a single day at your work, even if you just sit on your butt for 8 hours, with the injuries Roethlisburger played through this season.

  71. Re:How does this work...for our non-American crowd by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    "5,000 pages by 100 playbooks means a very manageable 50 pages per player, per game"

    And that's only for the *defensive* team.

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  72. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by bonch · · Score: 1

    What in the hell are you talking about? You can barely even write properly.

  73. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by bonch · · Score: 1

    Is this the Microsoft strategy of counting units shipped rather than units actually bought?

  74. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by bonch · · Score: 1

    Uh, there are multiple ways to read PDFs on an iPad. Word of advice--don't come to Slashdot for buying tips.

  75. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

    What are you talking about? The rest of us aren't talking about market share, we're talking about available purchasing options.

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  76. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

    Yes, that was my point. There does not need to be a bevy of high quality Android tablets available to compete with the iPad, you only need one good one.

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  77. Re:ios has to much apple back doors and other stuf by dwightk · · Score: 1

    word of advice, sometimes people on /. are sarcastic ;)

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  78. Re:take the batteries out or put it in a faraday c by arose · · Score: 1

    For those that need to replace the battery, it can be done at a service, or you can do it yourself with a third party replacement.

    Problem is, you can't replace it RIGHT NOW. Now the NFL might just have a backup with the same plays and can just swap devices (bad way, but if you rely on it that much...), but what about other places where iPads are supposed to be great like medical? If you are capturing data locally, you can't even switch to another one.

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  79. This Redskins fan thinks that's a brilliant idea. by leftie · · Score: 1

    Don't worry. That Cowboys playbook would never leak to the internet. Never ever.

    http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/96717281/The+Playbook+pdf?tab=summary

  80. sack quarterback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's an app for that.

  81. Blackberry Playbook by Bicx · · Score: 1

    Forget the iPad. The Blackberry Playbook is obviously the right choice for a playbook!

  82. Re:take the batteries out or put it in a faraday c by jo_ham · · Score: 1

    You back up the data... same as any other mobile computing device that has a removable battery.

    The fact that the battery is only replaceable by taking the unit apart has no relevancy whatsoever in this case. You either plug it in with a booster (and there are several iPad cases that have one built in, so that the iPad essentially "docks" with the case and provides power via the dock connector, or you swap devices and just hit up the server for a resync.

    If any organisation was using iPads (or any mobile computing device: laptops/phones/memory sticks) as a sole point of data failure then they have bigger problems than a limited lifespan on lithium polymer cells.

  83. Problem: using video violates NFL sideline rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With a tablet, you could also watch video replays of the plays (ie formations from an upperdeck view).
    This would be very useful.
    However, the problem is that the NFL has rules regarding recording video and sharing it in game time with teams.
    For instance, many times after a QB finishes a series, someone hands him a sheaf of papers
    to review on the bench. These are photographs of the plays (his and his opponent's formations) which
    he studies to see what went right or wrong. It would be much simpler and effective for him (or a coach), remote in hand, to watch a video.
    The reason he can't do this is because it is not allowed.
    So it would seem that video functions on tablets would need to be disabled during the game.
    I think this would mean that the NFL would need to audit and approve the tablets if they were to
    be used in games.
    If they were used merely to study the plays leading up to a game, then it'd probably be ok.

  84. Huge Shift in Policy by AdamsGuitar · · Score: 1

    This would be a major shift in NFL policy if this is allowed. Speaking as a former software developer for an NFL team, the NFL is very *very* strict about what coaches can use on the sideline. While coaches and coordinators in the booths are allowed significantly more freedom, the coaches on the field have thus far been limited to paper printouts. There was some effort a few years ago for the NFL to move to a custom device for viewing sideline photos of the game (developed in coordination with Motorola to go along with the phone carts that they developed for the NFL a couple of years ago), but I'm not certain if that device took off. However, if they were to open the coaches to using an iPad, that would be a HUGE change in policy. The sideline viewer mentioned above was a custom device that could, by design, only view the still photos received from the sideline cameras. No video or game analysis applications. However, with an iPad, the technical options are limitless. The NFL already has individuals that sit in the press box of every game and enter play information into laptops that are connected via VPN back to the NFL offices in New York, and this play data is sent down with the video to the teams the following week. However, there would be no technical reason that this play information couldn't be captured live and entered into one of the game analysis packages out there (a couple of teams develop their own in-house packages--we were one of those teams--both all of the others use one of two packages: XOS or DVSport), and, assuming that that package has an iPad-compatible version, allowing the coaches to view play breakdown and video live on the field. I'm not sure that such information would be helpful, but the very fact that the technical limitations against it might be removed is a very, very big deal.

  85. Re:take the batteries out or put it in a faraday c by arose · · Score: 1

    You either plug it in with a booster (and there are several iPad cases that have one built in, so that the iPad essentially "docks" with the case and provides power via the dock connector, or you swap devices and just hit up the server for a resync.

    Or you can get a device that will have a swappable battery with a much better trade off then a booster or second device. And as mentioned, not everything can be on a server all the time, it may only be out of sync by a few hours but it would still be out of sync. Not so coincidentally such applications would usually be served better with a second battery than even more crap to lug around.

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  86. Re:take the batteries out or put it in a faraday c by jo_ham · · Score: 1

    Those "few hours" are the extra you get from not having to carry around a spare battery - your original battery is considerably bigger. If you need to be in a situation where you need more power than the battery can give you, you have something that extends it. In a situation where you have a removable battery and you need longer life, you need to carry a spare - there's no real difference one way or the other. The main benefit of the built in battery is that you don't need to accommodate all the various bits to make it accessible - a door, a battery bay, a connector, and the physical conformation of the internal parts of the rest of the device to make it externally accessible. With a built in, you remove all of that and just fill any empty space you have in the device with the battery, wherever it will fit - the battery doesn't even have to be a uniform shape. The downside is that it is harder to repair or replace, and if the battery runs down and you are away from a power source you are stuck. Consider though - how many people using tablets and cellphones routinely carry around a spare battery with them, even if the model they have contains a removable one?

    There are tradeoffs to both methods, but the security of data (in terms of ability to access or potential for data loss between backups) is not one of them. You are just looking for ways to make built-in batteries look bad beyond all the usual talking points.