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8.8 Earthquake Near Japanese Coast
radioweather writes "USGS is reporting a 8.8 (was estimated first at 7.9) magnitude earthquake off of the east coast of Honshu, Japan. Details from USGS. Tsunami warning issued. Japan's Meteorological agency is saying 20-foot or higher waves are possible from a Tsunami near Miyagi prefecture."
Look on the bright side - if the tsunami washes over Australia at least it'll put the bushfires out.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Quake was upgraded to 8.9 some time ago. Also aftershocks continue.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/region/Asia_eqs.php
Code softly but carry a big magnet.
Wave moves slowly and silently inland, and carries parts of houses in full flames (!!!). This is insane.
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/03/11/sot.tsunami.hit.japan.cnn?hpt=T1
Mother Nature shows it's power. For better or worse.
user@ubuntubox:~$ stfu This server is going down for shutdown NOW!
Since Slashdot summaries are always a bit dated, it's been bumped up to an 8.9 by the USGS. The good news is that it was off-shore and 15.2mi down, the bad news is that it was off-shore and generated a large tsunami that is still wrecking havoc in Japan and may be heading elsewhere.
Best of luck to the Japanese; if anyone is prepared it's them, but I don't know how one prepares for something quite like this.
Meanwhile for the US there are active tsunami warnings in Hawaii, and NOAA has just issued a watch for the US West Coast.
May God have mercy for all.
I was waiting for something to happen after hearing about the massive solar flare yesterday, but nothing this big.
My sig sags.
There will probably be lots of deads and ruined in this. But it really hit the most prepared country of all. I can't imagine how it would have been if it did hit the US shores first.
Actually they've been hit by 3 + aftershocks. First one was a 7.9, second one is now recorded as an 8.9, third was a 7.1
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
Sitting in Japan, translating from the news here~
largest earthquake since 300 years
nuclear power plants affected but nothing leaked
some factory at the coast started burning, they're showing it over and over again
8 people so far found dead
tsunami along almost the entire coast, 3meter to 10meters
It's very bad,
They're also warning of another earthquake which is predicted to happen shortly
Japan already got smashed. Further warnings for:
RUSSIA / MARCUS IS. / N. MARIANAS / GUAM / WAKE IS. /
TAIWAN / YAP / PHILIPPINES / MARSHALL IS. / BELAU / MIDWAY IS. /
POHNPEI / CHUUK / KOSRAE / INDONESIA / PAPUA NEW GUINEA /
NAURU / JOHNSTON IS. / SOLOMON IS. / KIRIBATI / HOWLAND-BAKER /
HAWAII / TUVALU / PALMYRA IS. / VANUATU / TOKELAU / JARVIS IS. /
WALLIS-FUTUNA / SAMOA / AMERICAN SAMOA / COOK ISLANDS / NIUE /
AUSTRALIA / FIJI / NEW CALEDONIA / TONGA / MEXICO /
KERMADEC IS / FR. POLYNESIA / NEW ZEALAND / PITCAIRN /
GUATEMALA / EL SALVADOR / COSTA RICA / NICARAGUA / ANTARCTICA /
PANAMA / HONDURAS / CHILE / ECUADOR / COLOMBIA / PERU
Earthquakes everywhere around the pacific. I'd be worried if I lived in california. It's been a long time since it had a big one.
Mostly tsunami damage http://imgur.com/a/b29Uu
8.8 on which scale? I recall we abandoned the good old scale for something a lot more vague. Not mentioning which scale is used is what? To add to the confusion?
Sitting here in a house near Seattle, near the water... Part of the NOAA site says there is no alert, part of the website says there *is* an alert - but the page with details is down. Waiting and watching...
I am just outside Tokyo and the shaking here was insane. The building shook for about 2 minutes, then it died down, but very shortly later the after-quakes hit. Over three hours after the initial quake and the building is still shaking. Trains are shut down, so people can't get home.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Hi,
It's a common misconception that the power of a mag 9 earthquake is 10x more than an 8, or 1,000x that of a 6. It's not. It's more like 31,000x stronger than a 6. If you've ever had the misfortune to experience a 6, you can appreciate that the energy released by these big ones are rather hard to contemplate.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/measure.php
1 J = 1e7 erg
1 PJ = 1e15 J
Energy_petajoules = ( 10^(11.8 + 1.5*Ms) ) * 1e-07 * 1e-15
here's a picture of what this looks like, although ring size scaling has been reduced from the above formula to fit on the screen.
http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/2011/03/11/lhvpdd/03/messagelhvpd9-03.htm
You can see live data from the Tsunami warning bouys here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_Japan
March 11, 2011 8.9 MW 2011 Sendai earthquake
November 15, 2006 7.9 ML 2006 Kuril Islands earthquake
June 12, 1978 7.7 Ms 1978 Miyagi earthquake
December 20, 1946 8.1 Mw 1946 Nankaid earthquak
September 1, 1923 8.3 ML 1923 Great Kant earthquake
Japan has had a large history of earth quakes, but this appears to be the largest ever recorded according to Wikipedia.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_tsunamis_hit_japan_on_average_a_year#ixzz1GHSCzERb
This is the 5th largest earth quake in the last hundred years.
Chile 1960 05 22 9.5
Prince William Sound, Alaska 1964 03 28 9.2
Off the West Coast of Northern Sumatra 2004 12 26 9.1
Kamchatka 1952 11 04 9.0
Offshore Maule, Chile 2010 02 27 8.8
Off the Coast of Ecuador 1906 01 31 8.8
Rat Islands, Alaska 1965 02 04 8.7
Northern Sumatra, Indonesia 2005 03 28 8.6
Assam - Tibet 1950 08 15 8.6
Andreanof Islands, Alaska 1957 03 09 8.6
The hippies and union thugs occupying the WI state house are going to look rather selfish if they're still yelling when the body count rolls in. Actual suffering will overwhelm the simple greed that has dominated the news cycle for two weeks. Protest over.
It's strange how God always sends tornadoes to the Bible Belt.
supermoon=syzygy at extreme perigee
Coincidence?
Set your phasers on "funky"!
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/qy1/
http://xkcd.com/723/
Already seen one chick on TV credit facebook as a way people are communicating, so very sad.
The Asian fob on the Telly reported it from japanistan - theorizing that Godzilla woke up again.
OMG facts!
NHK: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/7472397 TBS: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tbstv
omg 9.6 may blow all Japan
I've been waiting for news of the impact of the waves when they reach Taiwan. Looks like they've come but had no major impact. Yay for that, hopefully the same will be true of the Philippines. I have friends in Manila -- hoping that nothing major in Taiwan means the Philippines will be okay.
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
The city closest to the epic center probably only had 30 minutes between feeling the quake and the tsunami making land fall. It's very eerie to watch cars speeding away from the on coming waves, some only making it a short distance before they were swallowed up . I feel so powerless to see the destruction, as it is happening, and not being able to do anything about it.
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed H
"This is a computer-generated message -- this event has not yet been reviewed by a seismologist."
Why is everyone blindly trusting the USGS computer? JMA is still asserting a 7.9.
I hope they don't start slaughtering random foreigners like last time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_Great_Kant%C5%8D_earthquake#Post-quake_massacre_against_ethnic_minorities
What version of Quake are they using on the Icculus CVS servers? ba-dum-cheesh. It's like rife isn't ronery anymoar.
I was at the Airport here, and I was told to get my ass among the rest of the pilots to be briefed in taking the most expensive of airplanes into the air ASAP. So this was the first briefing that was actually brief, and I am exstatic and Shocked because I want to go home to be with my grandmother in the attic. But my Briefer demanded I get a plane onto the Tarmac and into the airrr and I said my grandmother needs comfort, but they pulled guns to my head and said that the planes are worth more than my grandmother.
Heard rumors. Anybody have any facts?
Nubirus sister the brown dorf has passed throu the galatic plane. nubirus other sister is not far behind and then nubiru the brown dorf and the moon have affected hawaii and japan and is affect yellowstone some THE CLADERA HAS ROSE 10 INCHES WERE NOMAL WERE WAS ONLY THREE she had a 4.9 or somthing AND THE EARTH MONOTORING STATION TOOK IT OF FROM VIEW. Japans 8.9 is very big a large group of waves are certainly headed across the pacific ? weather or not these waves are like the one in chile or are deadly tidal wave only time will tell when the westcoast of the usa wakes up this morning i was up from 11 from the 10 to 11 of march when it hit 2011 this is utter devistation to japan if that kind of quake hit hattie there would have been absolutly no biuldings standing japans biulding are made to sway and slide in quakes but thay were put to the test today like never before i would considder the workmanship to be very good from what i sean the world awats to see the waves cut across the pacific.
News is expecting tsunami to hit Hawaii around 8am CT, That will be pre-dawn for them. Hope they are waking up and climbing to high ground!
Our lack of understanding is not equivalent to God's arbitrariness.
Also, some people see no difference between causing and permitting, when it is supposed to be the Omnipotent doing either the causing or the permitting.
Everywhere you could live in a real world is dangerous. Would you rather this Omnipotent God put you in an unreal world so you could try to experience life there?
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
When you can't do anything else, praying may not be a bad thing?
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
There is no Tsunami. Its just surfer propaganda. :p
Yes There Is Some Movement On The Bowies THAT I CAN SEE? Im Estmating the West COAST AND HAWAII
THE Distance Of This Wave Is Auctully Closer To HAWAII AND THE WEST COAST THEN THE ONE IN CHILE So Id Be On the Look Out For Some big Waves These bowies Can only move a bit But there looking for current For current Moving foward fast A TIDAL WAVE In DEEP WATER is only A foot or so high ? But when it biulds up on the crest off The Outer Shore It gets much bigger we are still dealing With that new volcanic fisher in HAWAII . TODAY Is A Very STRANGE DAY Indeed.
News says, there is at least one nuclear power plant burning: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/11/japan-declares-nuclear-emergency-quake I am scared now.
Nope, I think you mistook me for someone else.
when you have massive ejections like yesterdays they can certainly contribute to instability in the Earth's magnetic field, which leads to tectonic shifting.
Er, no. The way the game of "science" is played, one must first show data establishing a valid statistical correlation between coronal mass ejections and earthquakes, then a plausible model establishing causation. Or, present the plausible model establishing causation, and then predict earthquakes to occur in the future, with a success rate that differs from random chance in a statistically significant manner.
The reason the relationship between CMEs and earthquakes is not "a more accepted concept than it is", is that no one has done either of the above. It shouldn't be hard: The occurrence of CMEs varies with the sunspot cycle and, therefore, one would expect a cyclic variation in earthquakes if this hypothesis were true. Note that near the solar maximum we expect two or three CMEs per day, so this has to be figured in, too.
Reviewing your links:
1. The Mukherjee and Mukherjee paper notes that there was increased solar activity, and then an earthquake occurred (the 2001 Gujarat earthquake). In fact, in the "entire world, a total of 65 earthquakes have been reported on the same day". However, there is no evidence presented that that was an unusually high (or low) number of earthquakes for a day, that other earthquakes occurred on similar days with high solar activity, or that they did not occur on days with low solar activity. In fact, some of that data presented -- in particular, the GOES X-Ray flux data -- is irrelevant to the argument, since X-Rays do not affect the Earth's magnetosphere (the protons arriving two days later, do that) and, in any event, they cannot pass through the Earth's atmosphere and so cannot affect the surface (let alone the rock below). Despite the heading of section 2 of the paper, no "correlation" between CMEs and earthquakes is presented -- just a single coincidence. I went to the dentist on 26 January 2001 -- did that also cause the Gujarat earthquake? The same amount of evidence is presented for both hypotheses.
2. The de Arcangelis, et al. paper does not even mention a causal relationship between CMEs and earthquakes. Rather, it notes that the statistical properties of the two phenomena are the same: Their distributions are both power-law. This is interesting, but so is the distribution of Internet links, and a million other phenomena. It's nice work, but does not support your hypothesis.
3. This guy just took a single month's worth of earthquakes and compared it with "solar activity" (without defining the term). Even the author didn't make any conclusions as a result, so why should the reader? Besides, 2010 was one of the quietest years of solar activity in human history -- just wait 'til 2013!
4. Do you have a link to the entire Jain paper, or are you citing the abstract as the reference? Without the paper it's hard to conclude anything, but even in the abstract the author states, "Our investigation preliminarily shows that each earthquake under study was preceded by a solar flare of GOES importance B to X class by 10-100 hrs. However, each flare was not found followed by earthquake of magnitude >4.0." This situation can occur with unrelated events, simply when one (a flare) is more common than another (an earthquake). Note that B-class flares are incredibly common, and in many years this level of energy represents the standard amount of X-ray flux arriving from the sun, without any flares.
All of the above does not prove, or even argue, that CMEs do not cause earthquakes. Rather, it says that no significant evidence of such a link has been established. Until it has, one might argue with equal validity that any other random physical phenomenon does, too.
The Saudi Sheik's must think their prayers have been answered.
People are much less likely to go out and protest today with this dominating the news.
And those that do can be safely shot dead, and the world won't notice.
http://slashdot.jp/article.pl?sid=11/03/11/0847255
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A magnitude 8.8 earthquake caused by Godzilla stomach being upset struck Japan off its northeastern coast this morning, shaking buildings in Tokyo for several minutes and forcing people out of their home, and prompting a tsunami. Officials set up emergency response teams to provide huge ammounts of Alka-Seltzer to Godzilla.
CNN is saying the tsunami is coming ashore in Hawaii now, they said they've been evacuating all night so hopefull there will be no deaths. A buddy of mine in Japan said he felt the shaking for "6 or 7 hours" he's checking in regularly on facebook so i know he's safe. thoughts and prayers to all those affected.
I came to the datacenter drunk with a fake ID, don't you want to be just like me?
I have never seen a wave like that and at first because of the video perspective I didn't understand how truly large it was.
I also am fascinated by the fact the wave doesn't come crashing down, instead it is a slow gradual event onto land, ever steadily rising.
It gives a false sense of security to those who seek higher ground as the wave height is too gradual to determine.
I noticed sever people on a bridge, about 30 feet above the ground who thought they were safe but soon found out the wave crested over the bridge after a few minutes.
-Hack
Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=60991
Live news stream here (at least as of posting this comment)
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/foxtokimekitonight
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Try this if you want an approximate reaction. Put a magnet in the microwave for one second.
Spoiler: Nothing exciting happens.
Magnetic influence from a solar flare on Earth's magnetic field could be adequately compared to the effect that a spray of water from a garden hose would have on a boulder.
A very short spray and a very large boulder. Also, you are actually trying to move the boulder, not just getting it wet.
Also comparable: put a tiny magnet on one side of a large room and wave at it with a larger magnet from the other side of the room. Wave only once.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
While news of the death and devastation begins to filter in, I wanted to ask knowledgeable slashdotters if they knew of any undersea cable outages due to the tsunami (this IS a news for nerds site).
I am not familiar with how the main fiber optic trunk cables are strung out along the pacific ocean seabed. I wonder if there was a desire to keep them close to land (so they can make landfall more easily). If so, wouldn't they be right on top of "the ring of fire" and thus more vulnerable to events like this? Or perhaps the designers deliberately laid them out away from major faults? (Or perhaps they are relatively invulnerable to events like this, though the energy released in a mag. 8.9 earthquake makes it hard for me to believe anything could be so designed).
In any case, I'm in Vietnam and I'm reading this and posting this to slashdot which is presumably a U.S. site so our Internet connectivity does not seem to be majorly impacted.
The Japanese government just declared an atomic state of emergency. They are denying that any radiation is being leaked, but admitted that one reactor lost its cooling capacity. People are being evacuated.
In the event of an earthquake, nobody would need to worry about the wind getting lose.
PM 3:00 West Coast ?
Anyone else watch Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 last year?
Media that can be recorded and distributed can be recorded and distributed.
-kfg
As Usual- I just saw a CBS Weather girl actually say "And it is so surprising that it is sunny on the west coast with all this going on" ! Are media people born with dog shit in their brains or does a small dog have to sit over them while sleeping and make nightly deposits to get it to the level they have in adult life?
"Computers are a lot like Air Conditioners" "They both work great until you start opening Windows"
http://japan.person-finder.appspot.com/ As we all might have guessed the phone lines and cellphone systems are disabled still. But the internet is a very persistent entity. Simple and effective. Hope this gets more records.
Anyone else read this article yesterday?
http://www.space.com/11084-supermoon-earthquake-storm-natural-disasters.html
Not that I believe in astrology, but that's quite a coincidence.
I have family in Tochigi prefecture whom I can't get in touch with. The phone lines are down, and I assume my brother's lost his Internet.
I've used the Google finder at: http://japan.person-finder.appspot.com/, but perhaps some folks on Slashdot might be able to offer advice on how to proceed in getting in touch.
hawaii only had a 7 foot roll, was spared anything major, so there probably won't be any problems. however, the shape of the seafloor and harbors can magnify these kind of waves, so if you have any family on the west coast, tell them to get to high ground right now, if they haven't already done so
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
More modpoints to you if you find video of her saying that. Bravo, bravissimo!
Are the HAM operators providing vital communications at this point?
I live in Chile and experienced last year 8.8 earthquake. I really understand how people in Japan are feeling, and I can only give them my best wishes and support!
From what I understand, everytime Japan gets 1 of these, California is due to be hit next, within 1 yr. typically.
(Above all else, I hope this works out OK for them and not too many people die)
I hope I am wrong for once. I seem to remember this being a "trend" of somekind that has actually reliable statistics/patterns behind it. Anyone care to correct me on this note, please do. I hope I am wrong.
whoever57, take care of yourself man, and stay safe (get out of there if possible too).
Never a miscommunication.
This was insane. I report Yokohama felt the shock, and the aftershocks but... floating houses and hundreds of dead and even more disappeared. Touhoku is pretty much, fucked up. Holy shit!!!!!!! And now the Nuclear Power Plants... Jesus! I live somewhat close to some of those u` -`)p
bouncing about unharmed during the quake
Should've left geohot alone.
You know it's satire, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church
It's true that there are people who do not believe that it's a parody, and they are even tolerated and trolled on the forum, but yeah... it's a joke.
If there were no earthquakes, tsunami, wars, etc., it wouldn't be this world, and it wouldn't be in this universe.
It wouldn't be interesting, either.
Sure, we don't like the bad stuff to happen. But if we make a world where nothing bad can ever happen, it works out that nothing good can happen either. At least, I've thought about this for a really, really long time and I can't figure out how even God could make a world with nothing but good in it.)
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
I think I see the source of the argument here.
Freedom implies non-optimals. Or, rather, freedom is equivalent to the existence of things mortal humans consider non-optimal.
Some people get so uptight about danger that they want freedom to quit existing too.
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
I'm wondering if you're using a sock puppet to make faith arguments sound bad.
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
When you can't go there and join in the relief efforts, partly because the earthquakes haven't stopped enough for relief efforts to really begin, partly because the roads are closed, partly because you have to be making sure your own family is safe, prayer, or perhaps a few moments of silent reflection, may the best you can give for the moment.
Prayer is not necessarily off-topic.
I'd suggest that it's not worse than posting comments here.
(And I'd like to post more replies, but I have things to do. Most of the country is still functional, and we need to keep it so, so that the relief work can start once the earth and seas have settled back down a bit.)
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
Depends on your understanding of God.
Some of us who believe, believe He wants to talk with us about things. Prayer for us is a duplex connection.
In this case, the prayer is something like this:
"Is there something I can do?"
And the answer yesterday and this morning is that my first job is to see to my own family's safety.
And it's not like I really spent a long time coming to this conclusion. More to the effect of taking a moment to check whether what I was doing was the best. Atheists will do basically the same thing, just call it taking a moment to think, or to check their conscience.
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
We're all deluded. Why blame the other guy for his delusions instead of trying to understand your own?
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
http://www.youtube.com/nhk?gl=JP&hl=ja
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The way you say that makes me think you think I think God is just being coquettish (sp?).
I don't, FWIW.
Actually, I do think I understand, in part.
I'll admit, it did take a while before I understood that the difference between NP and NP complete is part of why we have to have things happen in this world, that seem non-optimal to us. While I'm not going to ask you to understand that immediately, I would like you to exercise a little understanding.
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
Well, it's the morning after, and the danger has not passed yet. That was why I was suggesting staying sober.
(For my part, drugs, including alcohol, aren't where I'm going to take my worries/concerns/frustrations/sorrows/etc. But that's my choice.)
Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens with fancy erasers; the 'net is just a fancy backyard fence.
revolutions breaking out, weather going to sh*t, now record breaking quakes in the Pacific; has anyone checked to see if an island is rising from the Pacific floor?
that thing still here, omg!
http://www.cow-spot.co.uk/tokusatsu/16/src/1299894351742.jpg
1. Who on earth decided that a Nuc plant was safe on the shores of a country that regularly experiences Tsunami?
2. When telling us how safe Nuc power is, refer to rule number one.
We can sit here and argue how safe Nuc power can be, but the problem is no matter how safe it can be in theory, some asshole engineer will put in place a Death Star feature.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I haven't read anything connecting these two events but I'm willing to bet that the Moon's approach is, in some part, responsible for the recent disasters.
No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it!