Crowdsourcing Analysis of the Palin Email Trove
itwbennett writes "Surely you've got better things to do this weekend than read 24,000 pages of Sarah Palin's email. But just in case you don't, the NY Times is looking for volunteers to help 'identify interesting and newsworthy e-mails, people and events that we may want to highlight.' And, for your easy reference, MSNBC has posted the complete collection online."
So wait, we're supposed to do analysis for free for the NYT, which will then hide said work behind their paywall? Yeah, suuuure.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you
...because it has been -REDACTED-
Someone reads too much World Nut Daily.
since the National Archives will do it for them.
Paranoid troll much? While I agree the scrutiny on Palin is eye-roll inducing, I think I'd rather have them devote their energy to exploring actual, serious presidential candidates, like Romney and Cain. Or exposing the extremist crazy of Michelle Bachman, who is still at least in office.
Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
That neither the NY Times nor the Washington Post will do this with Obama's emails once he leaves office.
I guess it depends if Obama adds a shroud of conspiracy by forcing the media to pick up the emails printed on paper instead of digitally...
Yeah, what a circus. Not even sure which ones are the clowns anymore. I kinda read /. so I can avoid this kind of story. Now I'm ashamed for having posted in one.
It's a pretty standard practice for every administration/public official. If you want the docs, you get 'em. And not for 15 million either. ;) So yes, it was done for Clinton, it was done for Bush, it'll be done for Obama... but I don't know if that means that the media is Liberal or Fair and Balanced.
His question is legit. Hey, everyone knew Bush's grades but no one cares about Obama's grades? (We only know learned that Gore got a "D" in natural science.) They dug into Jack Ryan's sealed divorce decree when he was running for Senate in Illinois but have no time to bother digging into our current president? The press is complete hypocrisy.
After #2 was born around 0100, I passed out completely. My wife was wide awake, did her all-important FaceBook postings, did some writing, even got up and walked around. This was in stark contrast to #1, where she was virtually bed-ridden for the first week.
What is it you think happens during a birth that would prevent this? It seems quite normal to me.
No thanks I'm pretty sure reading Sarah Palin's emails would lower my IQ by a factor of ten.
And people care about some moron congressman tweeting his penis and dumb Sarah Palin. Glad to know the media is focusing on what is important.
My wife came home and cleaned the kitchen. Women aren't always delicate little puffs.
We also know he's a friggin' negro and just DOESN'T BELONG THERE, amirite? :)
And no mention of the disappearance of Bush's documents? Post back with the 'missing' docs that they couldn't find of Bush's and you get to get out of the rabid fanatic box.
We've sort of moved from a more unified main stream media model to something a little like the opposed advocacy sort of model used in legal proceedings. If it's not something MSNBC will take time to trawl through, Fox pobably will. And vice verse. etc, through the permutations.
And if neither of them get round to it, the opposition research people of the respective opposed parties or primary candidates will.
Paranoid troll much? While I agree the scrutiny on Palin is eye-roll inducing, I think I'd rather have them devote their energy to exploring actual, serious presidential candidates, like Romney and Cain. Or exposing the extremist crazy of Michelle Bachman, who is still at least in office.
Even a broke clock is right twice a day. So, even if he is paranoid (which calling him so is trolling... The irony...) his point is totally valid.
> Paranoid troll much?
Ok since you obviously know these things that nobody else does, perhaps you know Mr. Obama's GPA, his SAT score or have access to his thesis? We know these things about other Presidents. We have even seen Mrs. Obama's senior thesis. For example we know W's GPA was actually comparable to Gore or Kerry's. Yet somehow Gore and Kerry are considered so super smart while W is universally ridiculed as an idiot. So where does Obama fit in? Everyone in DC says he is the smartest guy who ever sat in the comfy chair. Is he? I haven't seen the slightest evidence of it in his (not his speechwriters) words or in his deeds. So put us all some knowledge on dude.
Or maybe there is a reason his records are sealed. Because they would make it plain he is a below average shlub who was admitted and honored more for his biography and 'diversity' than his ability.
All I'm sayin' is if the media still have the energy and resources to root around in Mrs. Palin's old emails, air drop into Alaska back in the campaign to root around in her trash cans, etc. perhaps a little attention to the guy who actually IS president and appears to want to run for reelection might be worthy of the basic scrutiny the media would give a candidate for governor or senate. Or we might want to face the reality that the media already know Obama's story and are intent on the voters never learning it.
Democrat delenda est
Yeah, what a circus. Not even sure which ones are the clowns anymore.
All of them. Still amazed that people think there is any difference between the parties.
Did the NYTimes put out the same crowdsourcing call for various Wikileaks docs?
Also, is there any particular reason Palin's emails have been released? Do all governors' emails get released? (Don't know.) And George W's?
I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on the Internet. Blog
To be fair, this data dump is fulfilling a FOIA that was filed two YEARS ago, when she had just been nominated vice president (by a few thousand people that probably shouldn't have just taken everything on authority and should have known better, I might add.)
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
We also know he's a friggin' negro and just DOESN'T BELONG THERE, amirite? :)
I think you're looking for the word "mulatto".
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
Never mind, you could always take a leaf out of Jello Biafra's book and run for mayor of San Francisco.
(For those who don't know, one of his manifesto policies was that all businessmen should be forced to wear clown suits. IIRC, he finished third out of a field of nine.)
I can't wait for people to cite these e-mails as evidence of wrongdoing on her part just because they were released. Look what happened when Tennessee State Representative Mike Kernell's son hacked Sarah Palin's e-mail account. To this day, people claim that David Kernell's hack proved wrongdoing on Palin's part, even after Kernell told 4chan that he DIDN'T find anything interesting.
My wife came home and cleaned the kitchen. Women aren't always delicate little puffs.
I bet you got big brownie points for that one....
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Need I say more?
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
No, most that have irrational fear of him generally don't know the word "mulatto". Now Moolatte, THAT'S a different story.
The reason it took them 3 years to release the emails is it took that long to screen out all the damaging material. Palin switched to her private email accounts for all the juicy stuff and she was pretty disciplined about it on top of that. We've got some indications of conversations since emails to those accounts both from and to official aides have been released. I heard on the news last night from the Mother Jones reporter who initiated the email request that stuff like conversations with Cheney and "Same Sex" thread have been completely redacted.
You think they'd wait 3 years, dump the emails ONLY to printed paper, redact the hell out of the content, and charge people if they *really* wanted to give you access?
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
We don't know how the hell a community organizer paid the freight to get a degree at Harvard, not exactly known for it's low low prices.
and you're not exactly know for your understanding of higher education pricing. If Harvard wants you, they'll find a way to make it affordable - with their endowment they can afford a few scholarships here and there. You only pay full freight if you can afford it and they really don't care if you attend.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
you don't have to be smart to go through the motions, that's one of the jokes of an education
He was magna cum laude. Verified by Harvard. Not as high as summa, but the point remains that he was top 10% of his class at Harvard.
All I'm sayin' is if the media still have the energy and resources to root around in Mrs. Palin's old emails, air drop into Alaska back in the campaign to root around in her trash cans, etc. perhaps a little attention to the guy who actually IS president and appears to want to run for reelection might be worthy of the basic scrutiny the media would give a candidate for governor or senate. Or we might want to face the reality that the media already know Obama's story and are intent on the voters never learning it.
Well, go for it dude. Certainly there have to be a couple of more folks with your bent to get together and sort this out. Certainly the Fox News folks and persons of similar persuasion have the means and the motive to go look for dirt in his past. Perhaps they have done that and found he was a B+ student who wrote boring things, didn't do drugs and didn't get arrested -- basically a meh story. Who knows? Obama is your typical bog-standard Politician, no more no less. Not nearly as entertaining as an attractive batshit insane ex cheerleader with dubious command of history, geography and language.
What's not to like?
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
I stumbled upon something interesting there
That you're a manipulated tool?
Remember the conspiracies around Trig's birth, April 18, 2008?
Uh, no. But now you're scaring us...
What surprises me is that it's been almost a day and we don't have a giant first page headlines "WE CONFIRMED SHE IS EVIL! Email details ... ". Nothing beyond regular (and sometimes understandable) stuff.
Which probably will result in more conspiracy theory to the tune of "Well we know She's Evil, it's just only those months of emails that weren't released must contain the Pure Evilness!", which is kinda silly.
I think every governor should have emails released, frankly, before he/she leaves office. The whole transparency thing, people love to talk about so much (but never deliver). That way someone who's about to become a public official will know that the public will see all communication for sure, without a need to file information requests (plus some states don't seem to care much to store the data as long as Alaska does). It will probably disrupt their "ability to negotiate" (like releasing the list of people who visit the White House) but isn't transparency worth it?
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I'm assuming neither you (if female) nor your wife (if you have one) have ever given birth?
Maybe I missed something somehow but is there a reason there's a desire to peruse through these records? If there's an investigation going on then it's not my job. If there isn't then it's none of my damned business and I have better shit to do with my time than be a voyeur to someone like Palin. Send this waste of time to the tabloids.
At first I thought this would be a good application for some sort of Artificial Intelligence processing engine, but 'Artificial Intelligence' probably doesn't work well on itself.
> Paranoid troll much? ...extremist crazy of Michelle Bachman
>
Hmmm...
If you disagree with me on social issues, then it's pretty clear that you are a narrow-minded bigot.
Oh come on. You know better. President Obama is their (NYTimes') guy. They worship him and they'd never do anything to smirch his reputation. Palin is their enemy. They hate her and her family and would do anything at all to smear her. I'm pretty ambivalent about the whole thing. Sarah Palin is fake and about as real as President Obama. I really could care less about either of them but I find it amusing that people get upset about these professional hucksters getting ridiculed as they deserve.
Or maybe there is a reason his records are sealed. Because they would make it plain he is a below average shlub who was admitted and honored more for his biography and 'diversity' than his ability.
... lol ... same reason his birth certificate couldn't be found. Brilliant PR ... let the loonies make the right wing look completely half-cocked, so no one wants to affiliate themselves with the right, gain votes, and get in.
But hey. You're free to believe whatever you want, and I'm free to believe you're an idiot.
For example we know W's GPA was actually comparable to Gore or Kerry's. Yet somehow Gore and Kerry are considered so super smart while W is universally ridiculed as an idiot.
GPA wasn't why Bush was and is considered pretty stupid. The reason he's considered stupid is that he's not really accomplished all that much - his military record was mediocre at best, most of his business ventures (which wouldn't have started without money from his dad's friends) flopped, and his political campaigns were also basically inheriting his dad's political apparatus. That and a speaking style which provoked unfavorable comparisons to Dan Quayle gave him a reputation of being rather stupid, deservedly or no. Basically, there's good reason to think that if he had started out in the same environment as Ronald Reagan did, he would have been a nobody.
I am officially gone from
I know Bill O'reilly gives short shrift to anyone bring up crap about President Obama's birth. He generally just cuts them off. I'm sure he's looked into it and realizes that it's a non-issue. I wish everyone else would give it up too as I'm about sick of hearing about it. If they can't find enough to criticize with the shithole the economy is in and the determination the administration seems to have to finish it off as soon as possible then they need to just quit and go home. At this point I don't give a shit if he was born on Mars. Do something about the deficit already.
Michelle Bachmann is a passionate and good looking woman but she doesn't have anywhere near the same effect on people.
They both have the same effect on Rep. Anthony Weiner.
Someone's got his facts straight. Those are legitimate questions, but the answers are still sealed even two years later. Why? I mean seriously, Why?
Mod Me Up. You'll make a grown man cry.
Do something about jobs and housing already.
FTFY
With the first link, the chain is forged.
She'll never run.
She'll never give up her cushy "job" at Fox. Never put herself in the position where she needs to answer questions from the press, or debate anyone. Never compromise her sanitized "public" existence.
She is a circus side show, and all she cares about is getting paid.
Sometimes things that shouldn't be a big deal become one.
Think of a restaurant that every time you've gone to it the service and food was just utterly horrible, verging on being a health issue, and overpriced. That's not something you'll get rilled up over. You'll just file it in the back of your head and not go there again.
But you pass by that restaurant every day and always see that it's always packed. You pity those people for being so dumb. Every other day at lunch someone in your group suggests going there so you have to continuously rehash your negative reviews for the place to the point where it makes you seem like you're out to get them.
You're not out to get them. You know the deal that undercooked chicken in a disgusting sauce isn't good and in numerous attempts haven't seen one satisfactory meal served to you or the people you were seated with. So you just want to forget the place and focus on the good things in life. So you might want to spend some time looking for evidence that even the stupidest of stupid people couldn't refute so that every one could never mention that restaurant to you again, so that you don't have to ever see it on the news or in the papers.
I don't understand why people like Palin. I also don't understand why people would pay more than $1 for a cup of coffee.
it would be advisable to let her. When my wife had our kids, some strange nesting instinct seems to have kicked in. Trying to stop her would have not been healthy.
You seem to be lost. This is Slashdot, not Digg. When we agree with somebody, we don't say that we "dug" their post.
Yes, unfortunately this results in a lot of confusion; including being alerted in Minecraft IRC channels every few seconds.
Dug happens to be my name, you insensitive clod.
How often is a broke[sic] calendar right?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
While I personally dislike Palin, can someone with mod points please moderate the parent as -1: Idiot! ? Thank you.
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While I find the farce surrouding the opposing forces of Palin's cult of personality and those who simply cannot stomach her and will dig through anything to justify that to be tedious and misguided, we should not let that distract us from the potential real issues at play here.
Alaska is, perhaps uniquely among American states in the present day(with the possible exception of the poorer; but much more overtly corrupt Appalacian coal belt), a state with an immensely lucrative extraction-economy, and not too much else going on. This means that there is considerable money to be made in controlling pipeline contracts and routes, security assorted extraction licenses, controlling obscure planning offices, and other tedious activity in sparsely settled areas. Although much more scenic than most, and often less violent, this does leave it open to many of the same dysfunctional political dynamics enjoyed by the poor nations who have large mineral reserves and weak governance.
We shouldn't forget that. It doesn't matter what the contents of Palin's Office Yahoo Account tell us about who popped out out a baby when. Sordid trailer-park drama? probably, but who cares? However, it is generally the case that, behind every folksy politician who is bored by the details, lurks a small army of value-rational and detail-oriented hatchetmen quietly cleaning up the spoils. Sometimes, if the local cult of personality is strong enough, they are in thrall of that politician. In other cases, the politician is their frontman. In either case, though, their activities are the stuff that desperately needs as much sunlight(and cell space) as the public can devote to it. Don't let the personality drama get in the way.
He's Irish (or at least he was a few weeks back). Doesn't that make him a MacLatto?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
From: Sarah Palin
To: Frank Bailey; Sharon Leighow; Beth Leschper; Kristina Perry; Talis Colberg
Subject: Re: Fw: fyi-Chicken-pox immunization regulations
Thanks - the Lt. Governor's release will hopefully clarify. I'll ask Talis to [REDACTED]
From: Frank Bailey
To: Sarah Palin; Sharon Leighow; Beth Leschper; Kristina Perry
Subject: Re: Fw: fyi-Chicken-pox immunization regulations
We can try to get this word out. I believe Gail Neubrugge's grandaughter (?) was severely disabled by a vaccine. Dan Saddler's pretty sharp on this issue as well. This'll be a tough pill for some folks.
From: Sarah Palin
To: Sean Parnell, Mike Tibbles
Subject: Re: fyi-Chicken-pox immunization regulations
[REDACTED]
From: Sean Parnell
To: Mike Tibbles
Cc: Sarah Palin
Subject: fyi-Chicken-pox immunization regulations
We received a regulations packet from the Board of Ed in which they mandate immunizations against chicken-pox for kids in school beginning July 1, 2009. [REDACTED]
I'm from Europe from a country with much lower salaries. I also went to Harvard..........
Lucky you. If you know the US has 50 not 57 states then you're probably better educated than O. But then my 7 year old knows this and she hasn't gone to Harvard.
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
> and you're not exactly know for your understanding of higher education pricing. If Harvard
> wants you, they'll find a way to make it affordable
Which would be interesting in its own right if true. Why did they want this particular student? His grades were not good. Columbia won't release his transcript or grades but has confirmed the basics of his diploma. They will say they granted him a degree in Political Science and that he did not graduate with any honors. So why was Harvard Law so hot to have this oh so average at best scholar that they gave him a free ride? Really? Is that your theory?
Harvard Law has about 500 seats per year and thousands of applications, almost all of which are going to have better transcripts that Barry probably had. But Harvard not only wanted this guy they wanted him so bad they were willing to give a free ride?
Democrat delenda est
"Sarah Palin's emails have created more jobs than the last $2 trillion in federal stimulus." -- David Burge
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Where are mod points when you need them!
Right or wrong, I've long ago made up my mind that Palin is a skanky ole ho, who is just getting by on her history as a beauty queen. I've not read anything to make me like her, and I've read plenty to make me dislike her.
I can't see that sifting through her emails is going to improve my opinion of the ole ho. Like most other people, I'll just interpret the crap I find to reinforce my current opinion.
'Course, most other people can't admit that they'll do that, LMAO!!
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
Well, at least AC isn't lost. He's on slashdot, and he can't be bothered to RTFA, RTFS, or even to RTFN of the poster he responds to.
not Dug :>)
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
"crowd-sourcing" this is a gimmick. There's only 24k pages and they've already been scanned. OCR them and run them through some decent e-discovery software - maybe do some concept searching, sentiment analysis. Crowd-sourcing will get you attention, but it's a slow way to get to the goodies.
Sorry, but with modern US politics in the state it is in, I really can't tell if you're serious or not. If this is satire it is rather poor quality. If this is a representative opinion of part of the US electorate I think it is time to do a really thorough check of the drinking water. There seems to be a lot of lead in it.
Get over it.
This is why this whole Palin frenzy is so damn distressing. She isn't even declared as a candidate for the next election yet it seems as if the line to be part of the character assassination just continues to grow. This is like taking the worst aspects of Reality TV and having the press and politicians play the parts.
If they even tried this with Obama there would be lines of people screaming racism. That alone allows Libya to continue and Yemen to be next. I wonder how many years after Obama leaves office before someone will have the courage/be allowed to investigate him. We can destroy women; Hillary really didn't get good treatment from the press either once they crowned Obama their pick, but guys seem to get a free pass in politics, doubly so if they can hide behind an army of sycophants.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
So you're saying the troll is just a clockwork automaton who spouts the same old, same old conspiracy theories about every centrist/moderate* politician, will eventually babble something that can stick? OR are you just being another idiot who thinks an old saying about broken clocks is in any way accurate?
Saying 'a broken clock is right twice a day' is idiocy and foolishness and betrays ignorance of, you know, REALITY. People can be magnificently and constantly wrong, and just saying 'they may be sometimes right!' does a disservice to Truth. His point is absolutely not valid without evidence.
Now put away your tin-foil hat. Wake me when you have evidence other than paranoid rambling that looks like a half-assed job imitating the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
(* - Obama is no way leftist -- this is speaking as a dyed in the wool socialist, you insensitive clod! He's at best center-right. Get your political directions right.)
Yeah, I don't know about Obama's SAT score. I do know about ol' GWB's SAT score, and I know that I scored about four hundred points higher than he did. (So did Natalie Portman.) Didn't we all come to the conclusion that SAT scores meant nothing in terms of one's success and that judging a person by their SAT score is intellectual elitism?
Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
No school will release the transcript of a student. It's privacy. You know, something that we still sort of have a bit of here in the United States? You canno go up to any school and demand to see someone's transcript. Stop being a paranoid schmoe and WAKE UP AND SMELL REALITY.
You're really reaching to why Obama got into Harvard as the basis of your conspiracy theory du jour? Good grief, man, PLEASE, spare us. What, you're pissed that nobody believes you that his birth certificate is TOTS A PHOTOSHOP, and now you want to get his law uni, college, high school, grade school, and kindergarten to release his transcripts? And when they do and you see he was a pretty good student, what next? You're going to say they faked the transcripts? Claim he faked his vaccination records? (OMG, it's Typhoid Barack!) Say he cheated on his driver's license test?
Dude, face reality: NOTHING that anyone does that is in any way remotely positive about Obama is going to satisfy you. At least admit it and you can stop hiding behind nutbar conspiracy theories and pretending to think those black helicopters are coming for you. Or do something stupid like try to re-enact the Turner Diaries.
Considering he was presiding editor of Harvard Law Review (vol104) , I'm assuming he had to have done quite well. The student editors are chosen from a combination of grades and scores in a competition for the editors slots, and then the students select the "best" among them to be the President of the editing group (which Obama was.) If a poor black kid from Hawaii had the $$ to bribe 39 other rich students into selecting him as the "best" choice among them, I'll eat my hat. As it stands, there's a possibility that the task was given to him because no one else wanted to do it, but considering the prestige that comes with the position, I find that highly unlikely.
Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
Nope.
You publish it on your no-name blog first, then you get the delicious protections of the new copyright regime!
(That is, until they cheat again.)
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Don't expect anything to come from "Crowdsourcing", as they've made it nearly impossible to navigate.
For instance, you cannot go to a document at random, you have to page through the entire collection 10 links at a time. Sure, I'll be happy to hit "NEXT" 200 times and wait 5 seconds each to get somewhere in the middle because my time isn't valuable and I'm happy to give it to the NYT.
Some of us geeks have experience in getting redacted information out of documents, and there would be quite a bit of motivation to look into this... oh, right-click is disabled, everything has been scanned and put into PDF format. No joy there.
All the public can do is read the words, and then only on the first few easy-to-get-to pages.
This is just the NYT getting the public to do its Mechanical Turk work for free.
I guess he got in because he had been working for 5 years after college - 1 in a possibly CIA-connected business consulting group, 1 in a public interest group, and 3 years as a "community organizer". It looks fucking great to an admissions officer. He's obviously ambitious, community-focused, and comfortable working with people. And I bet he wrote a killer application. Plus he had diversity points. Overal, he had "future mayor, governor, or maybe even president" written all over him - that's the kind of guy people pay to go to Harvard with.
Harvard Law has about 500 seats per year and thousands of applications, almost all of which are going to have better transcripts that Barry probably had. But Harvard not only wanted this guy they wanted him so bad they were willing to give a free ride?
because they found something compelling in his application that said "This guy has high potential."
again, unlike you, whose writings scream "internet kook" and are compelling only in your own mind.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
You know how it is. Anytime records are sealed people always wonder about it. The conjecture usually is worse than the truth though. That's why sealing records mostly seems to do more harm than good. The best bet is to just be open and deal with whatever the issue is. I put this forward as a guess at a possible reason for keeping things secret. It's based on the point that some members of the administration have in the past expressed admiration for Mao and his policies. I might be wrong, it is just a guess. It's a better one than that his grades sucked though. He could hardly have graduated with honors if his grades weren't good.
Your screwing up an old joke.
"What did bush get on his SAT? BBQ sauce."
The reason we subjugate ourselves to law is to better procure justice. If law does not accomplish this purpose then it m
That's an awesome response. Asshole
[hey, Asshole happens to be my name, you insensitive clod! It's your fault I didn't visually distinguish my name from the text I wrote!]
You have two pathetic loser medals now.
The first, for spending any time going through the emails and the second, for being part of the Trig Conspiracy crowd.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
Back in the old days women would be working in the fields, stop and give birth, wrap the baby up, and go back to working. It's not that hard to believe a woman could use a computer or phone hours after giving birth.
You people are grasping at straws . . . . as usual.
I see this as some media outlets trying to make a buck by riding the 'Wikileaks Wave'.
The people seem to be eating this up, too.
It may be due to the lack of transparency with our gov't until wikileaks spilled the beans.
I agree this does not seem to be the most efficient method to 'get to the goodies', but I don't think that is the point of this.
Just a thought....
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Then post just the text of the diff out of context!
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So where does Obama fit in? Everyone in DC says he is the smartest guy who ever sat in the comfy chair. Is he? I haven't seen the slightest evidence of it in his (not his speechwriters) words or in his deeds.
He handled himself just fine on the live health care debate with the Republicans (who were busy screaming "It's a trap!" before the event). He takes questions and can speak on issues coherently off the cuff. The idea that's he's just some "below average shlub" is ridiculous.
Upvote? Reddit is better these days anyway. :P
Karma: Chameleon (mostly due to the fact that you come and go).
Dug happens to be my name, you insensitive clod.
Could be worse.
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The Democrats could not be bothered to read the 2400 page health care bill but everyone is all over Palin's 24,000 pages of useless e-mails?
I thought She was irrelevant and the left was "so over her" yet they hang on every word and action She does.
So very sad.
I am very suspicious of this approach to information release - it appears to be specifically aimed at obfuscation to frustrate analysis. If you look at it from an audit/forensics point of view because the raw data has been converted, so it can no longer be considered clean or reliable. I'd call this actually NON-compliance with a process designed to keep government accountable, and it ought to raise serious question.
At the most basic technical level, there is no way to check authenticity or look at the headers. This stunt ought to be challenged so it doesn't happen again - it has zero to do with Palin or political direction, but everything with accountability.
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Most people don't know that 12 > 9? Perhaps where you come from...
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
The left wing media are assholes to Palin so AK figured they would return the favor. The most complex answer is rarely the correct one.
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In the past few years I have seen Slashdot go from a group of somewhat biased, but thoughtful group to zombie mob of hacks. Palin is likely smarter than half the people who post on this forum. I don't even like Palin all that much, but a normal citizen works their way up the political chain and it seems by all accounts she has done a good job and you all hate her for it? What is wrong with you people?
Remember the quote "I can see Russia from my house."? Yeah, that was a great SNL skit, but Palin didn't really say that or anything like it.
The Paul Revere scandal, guess what, even a historian on Paul Revere said she was "technically correct".
You have a congressman who is the equivalent of a flashing pervert and everyone defends him to the hill, but some woman from AK wants to make a difference in the country and everyone froths at the mouth like rabid dogs.
You wonder why only perverts, scumbags and thieves end up in government?
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If she becomes President, you might want to know of what to beware. Those who laugh and say she could not possibly become president, only need consider that Obama became president, fooling many into thinking he was some kind of "progressive", when in fact he is continuing the Bush/Cheney agenda in every way. Even his health care law continues the cycle of increasing costs by big pharmy and big healthcare chains, and insurance companies increasing profits while acting as doctors in dictating treatment. Clearly, once one gets past certain trivial "hot button" issues, the major parties are both alike, and their candidates equally puppets of those who pay for the agenda.
Sorry, are you equating a slip-of-the-tongue with education? Let me guess - you didn't go to Harvard either.
Getting bad press is part of the ticket - willful obstruction of democratic processes is not.
Following that argument would allow Washington to deposit AK's next round of state funding in large bags of single cents in the middle of a swamp - just because they were assholes. I think not..
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No price here, sorry. I can agree with your point that Palin may not be as bad as portrayed (let's face it, few people are), but you don't even need to consider *Palin* to see that what has happened here is willful obstruction.
Information that is SUPPOSED to be in the public domain is released
(a) filtered (who supervises that process?)
(b) converted (what evidence is destroyed here?)
(c) in almost the least accessible place in the US (wasting money GETTING it there).
This is not cute or funny - this should be illegal. I don't care if it's Palin or anyone else, this is obstruction. Here is a simple test: could any normal US citizen afford it to exercise their right of checking up on their government? If the answer is "no" (as in this case), the release method should be declared illegal because it conflicts with the fundamental principles of checks & balances that a democracy is SUPPOSED to have.
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