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Man With 10 Million Air Miles Gets Plane Named After Him

Chicago car salesman Thomas Stuker has set a record by accumulating an astonishing 10 million air miles on United Airlines. In the past 29 years Thomas has flown almost 6,000 times - racking up a total mileage that would circle the Earth 400 times. From the article: "Mr Stuker has already been highly rewarded with access to a special lounge at the airlines hub in Chicago, first-class upgrades as a matter of course and even a plane named after him on the fleet."

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  1. Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Congratulations, sir and welcome to first-class. Here is your 4-ounce Dr. Pepper and complimentary half-bag of potato chips.

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    1. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by onkelonkel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're doing it wrong. You should be working on your second Rusty Nail about the time the economy class passengers are filing by your seat.

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    2. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by supertrinko · · Score: 1

      I'm sure this man could get a complimentary second half-bag, and have it deposited into the first bag.

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    3. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Ogive17 · · Score: 2

      What do you fly? I fly coach and have touched just about every major US airline in the past 3 years.. they always give me a full can of soda and if I get thirsty later in the flight they will give me a 2nd can if I request.

      I agree with you about the snack, though. Need 4 or 5 of those to tide me over on a cross-country filght. But again, usually once everyone has gotten 1 they will let you have more.

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    4. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by FoolishOwl · · Score: 1

      It's weird. The labor cost of passing out the tiny snacks must exceed the cost of the tiny snacks.

      Perhaps the tiny portions mean that most of the snacks are completely consumed, simplifying waste cleanup.

    5. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      The labor costs of passing out the tiny snack are irrelevant, because the god damn waitress can't just open the flight deck door and go home while the plane is 30,000 feet in the air!

    6. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by bberens · · Score: 1

      I remember a story from back in the 90s where apparently Delta or one of the other big airlines reduced the number of peanuts in the peanut package by 1 peanut and it saved the company millions of dollars. When you do things on a massive scale it's amazing how much tiny little changes add up.

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    7. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Here is your 4-ounce Dr. Pepper and complimentary half-bag of potato chips.

      Apparently, you've never flown First Class. On a KLM hop from London to Amsterdam, I sat in First - the chips and soda were in the back, but it was lunchtime and a decent meal was provided in First. More impressive than the food was the fact that one man took a little longer to finish than the rest of us. When he did hand his tray to one stewardess, another stewardess pressed a button that set off a chime in the cockpit - within 5 seconds the pilot announced and started our descent into Amsterdam.

      If you're not paying full fare, you're just baggage.

    8. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously you have not flown first-class.

    9. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 2

      If you ask for a can of pop, they'll give you a can of pop, even in coach, dude.

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    10. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Mid 1990s, American Airlines, Miami to Boston - 6+ hours in the air non-stop. One time I got a 3/4 ounce bag of peanuts. The next time I flew that route it was only 1/2 ounce of peanuts.

      If I was about to faint, I'm sure I could have begged for more, they might have even had some stale soda crackers available, upon request.

    11. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's weird. The labor cost of passing out the tiny snacks must exceed the cost of the tiny snacks.

      The labor cost is free. Instead of doing nothing, the steward(ess) is passing out snacks. It's not like they'll hire more people to pass out snacks... but the FAA requires them to have so many people onboard already.

      Now, if you don't get your 2nd snack b/c the steward(ess) is busy, then they don't give a damn.

      Besides, every time you ask for a refill is another attempt to get you to buy an alcoholic beverage/meal/whatever other upcharge.

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    12. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The "service" personnel in coach are actually safety officers - but rather than have them sit around looking like air marshals, they attempt to get them to keep the customers happy. Of course, at the wages they pay, it's amazing there aren't more dramatic Take this Job and Shove It events.

    13. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sucks to be you. I've always for a full can of Coke. I've even had small meals servered on a couple of 3 hour flights. Either you don't fly or they just hate you.

    14. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by heroid1a · · Score: 3, Funny

      Soooo if he never finished eating, the plane would never land? Hmmmmm...

    15. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wah, I'm from Slashdot and I complain about everything, wah no snack wah.

    16. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'servered'?

      You need to get out more.

    17. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by EvilStein · · Score: 0

      Good luck getting anything with a peanut in it on most airlines these days. They all yanked them because of our ridiculous fear that children will drop dead if there's a single peanut on the floor. (CDC stats show that the number of people that die from food allergies each year is actually very very low. Even lower for children.. but don't try to get stats past the mommybloggers, for they will all have stories about how their friends kid Kayley dropped dead when someone walked into the room with a pb&j.

    18. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by demonlapin · · Score: 2

      In first class, the other half of that drink is booze.

    19. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by EvilStein · · Score: 1

      Or he did.. and it was on US Airways. Their first class in the US is awful.

    20. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      He paid for his seat, and he was given consideration in return, I imagine after they burned a few hundred pounds of jet fuel waiting for him they might have prompted him to finish up, but that's not how it worked out that day.

    21. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Judging from the girth of most fliers I'd say going hungry for a few hours wouldn't be a bad thing.

    22. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      I think I've flown about five times since 9/11, but before that I did fly fairly often. First Class, and even Business on American meant something back in the day - access to nice lounges, good service to go with the big seats. United wasn't bad, either. Earlier poster isn't kidding about being on your 2nd drink before the back rows are permitted to board.

    23. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Hi, you must be new here.

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    24. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if they don't get you a can of "pop" quickly enough when you ask for one, they may be too busy changing the reel on the talkie that's currently playing. Or maybe they're grifting someone to get the two bits they need to get the trolley home once you land at the aerodrome.

    25. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by MrWin2kMan · · Score: 1

      At this level, you basically get all the free booze you want, as well as complimentary lunch/dinner in the Platinum lounge. This isn't First Class, this is Royal Class.

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    26. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So basically you've flown once in the past 20 years? And it was pre 9/11? Yes, I am very eager to hear your marvelous insight on the current state of air travel.

    27. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by w_dragon · · Score: 1

      And if it isn't they'll pester you until it is. I had a bit too much in the lounge waiting for a delayed flight once, and the flight attendant checked quite a few times to make sure I knew the drink was complimentary and was I sure I just wanted coke? I guess not many people flying first class need to drive themselves home from the airport when they land :)

    28. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Last time my father flew first class, they gave him a glass of champagne almost as soon as he sat down. In fact, they were so generous, they also gave his laptop one! He sticks to business class now...

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    29. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Raenex · · Score: 2

      He paid for his seat, and he was given consideration in return

      By being inconsiderate to all the other passengers on the plane, including first class ones. This story doesn't make any sense.

    30. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? Have you ever flown 1st class on United? It's all you can DRINK, and I don't just mean soda. You also get an actual meal that's really not at all bad for anything outside of home cooked or above average restaurant- it's palatable and quite good, and there's usually a choice of entrees.

      First class rules. It's just the cost of getting in!

    31. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I fly economic class on Air Canada Jazz and they'll fill your juice or pop as many times as you want.

    32. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's amazing how much money you can make by charging more for things. There's a lot of people (apparently you're one of them) that get really surprised when a company eliminates 1 $item from a bag of $item and saves money. They think it's really clever and novel. All you're doing is charging more money for less product, of course you're going to make more money.

      The main problem is that the airlines have taken this approach repeatedly. Let's eliminate one peanut from every bag, now let's do it again, and again, and again, etc. Soon enough you don't have any peanuts at all.

    33. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are many reasons for travelling London to Amsterdam by air.

      1. Avoid the stupid UK air tax, if you're travelling to Asia. Also, avoid taking crap airlines like BA.
      2. If you're travelling from Glasgow and you change in London.
      3. If you're travelling from the US and you change in London, which Americans seem to love to do. I guess it's cheaper just like direct flights from London to Asia are through the roof.
      4. If you live near the airport and are going to somewhere near the airport, you don't want to spend 2 hours getting to the Eurostar station (by car)

      Why don't you go to flyertalk, it's like the /. of air travel. Did you know that some people will fly from London to Amsterdam AND BACK WITHOUT LEAVING THE AIRPORT? Why? To get enough miles to get a free upgrade or maintain status. Did you know that some people's ideas of a holiday are to spend it all inside a plane and airport lounges? If you want your warming ass to get really hot, go read about the guy who flew from Colombo to Dubai to Male and back 3 times just because Emirates made an error with their first class ticket by dropping a 0 from the price.

    34. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      And yet we still somehow end up in the same city when the plane lands. Imagine that.

      Cargo's there, too - that's what he meant about being baggage.

      BTW, what "public transit" is there between London and Amsterdam? If all you mean is "common carrier", well, that's what an airline is.

    35. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by kbolino · · Score: 1

      That may be true, but they wouldn't need as many stewardesses in the first place if they didn't serve food and drinks.

    36. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was an olive...

      http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/09/business/09frills.html?ex=1163998800&en=0538da59a23ac08b&ei=5070

    37. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Abstrackt · · Score: 3, Funny

      I know! I've been here for years and that asshole Taco still hasn't given me a bag of peanuts!

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    38. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by AdamInParadise · · Score: 1

      There's about 300km from London to Amsterdam. However, due to this little thing called the North Sea, the trip on a high-speed train (a real one) takes a bit more than 4 hours (if you get your connection right between the Thalys and the Eurostar in Brussels). Otherwise it takes about 5 hours.

      But of course the train will take you from Amsterdam Centraal to London Victoria, not from Schiphol to Hearthrow, Luton, or, God forbid, Gatwick.

      So overall, I'm not sure which trip is going to release the largest amount of CO2. Probably the plane one, cause the Eurostar runs mainly on nuclear power...

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    39. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      I flew on Southwest yesterday and received peanuts on both legs of my flight.

    40. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Do you honestly think the airlines are in better shape now to offer more free things than they were then? Who is being naive now?

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    41. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also amazing how negligible a million dollars seems to companies with revenues on the tens of billions of dollars.

    42. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Calos · · Score: 2

      The (anecdotal) evidence seems to disagree with you and your snarky attitude, which was totally uncalled for, by the way.

      To add even more anecdotal evidence, I've flown a few times recently (on 3 different airlines) and have had full cans of soda or whatever. Even got free beer in the Seattle area, though that was probably promotional money paid by Red Hook.

      So yes, the original poster's concept of what is given on flights is, in general, wrong, and if we accept that his experience was characteristic of the time period in which he flew, then yes, apparently airlines are now in better shape to offer more free things to their customers (or customer service has just become more important).

      So no, the other poster doesn't appear to have been naive in their assertion, rather it is you who seems to feel the need to be overbearingly callous in your dealings with insignificant trifles on the internet. Also, the evidence suggests you are wrong.

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    43. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

      One time I got a 3/4 ounce bag of peanuts. The next time I flew that route it was only 1/2 ounce of peanuts.

      I once drove my car six hours from Vancouver, BC to Portland OR. NO ONE gave me free food! Can you believe it? I actually had to bring my own in the car.

    44. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      Southwest, as the only airline not approved by the galactic empire, is probably not a good example.

      They are much less evil than the others due to the fact they can actually make money honestly.

    45. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by tripleevenfall · · Score: 2

      Go easy on him, he's probably just wondering how the plane flies with no propellers.

    46. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 0

      The "service" personnel in coach are actually safety officers

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      It's ridiculous to assume that all flight attendants are Air Marshalls. That's just ignorant of how the airlines work. I assure you, anyone allowed on a commercial airliner with a gun is most DEFINITELY not being paid a flight attendant's wage, and has undergone MUCH more rigorous training and on-the-job experience than they have.

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    47. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      International flights and flights on european airlines and in first class are a different animal entirely. I flew on Air Canada in first class and received two meals (microwave dinners, but hey), abundant snacks and alcohol, etc. for a 7 hour flight.

      Domestic airlines in the US, beaten to a pulp by labor unions and rising fuel prices, cut every corner possible while increasing fares and fees and still are on the financial brink.

    48. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 3, Informative

      That sounds remarkably like a coincidence of timing. The flight attendants do tell the pilot when the passengers have started/finished eating/getting snacks and when they have finished picking up baggage, but not with a chime. That's what the little phones with blinky lights are for.

      The chime that she pressed was likely letting the pilots know that the attendants are done and can now sit down and buckle up - something still required of them during takeoff and landing. The pilots, furthermore, have the discretion to begin an ascent/descent at any time they wish, by simply requesting it of the ATC operator. It is probably the case that they started descending to avoid weather, traffic, or some other factor...or simply because the pilot felt like beginning his descent at that point. Pilots will rarely ever wait until the last waypoint they cross before an altitude requirement to begin a descent - that means steep drops that upset passengers' stomachs.

      A plane will never hold a landing for a passenger, unless there is a security issue with said passenger, or a medical emergency which would be worsened on descent. Even if you're in first class: if you take too long to eat, the attendants will still come by and tell you it's time to pack it up and stow the tray table.

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    49. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      6+ hours Miami to Boston? Were you flying in a Cessna 172?

    50. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      True, he has clearly never flown first class. I don't usually either, but the last time I got upgraded it was a 7am flight. I asked for some orange juice, and the attendant asked "how about a mimosa?" I was in fact on my second one before we started taxiing :)

    51. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by mekkab · · Score: 1

      Why don't you go to flyertalk, it's like the /. of air travel. .

      That's an intriguing way to put it; flyertalk can really open your eyes and you can learn a lot. There are a lot of flying nerds out there and I now know the difference between the various first/"world business" levels of service.

      I still travel coach, but now I know whether I should waste freq flyer miles on upgrades or not!

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    52. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by MooUK · · Score: 1

      There are legal requirements for the number of passengers per cabin crew member, for safety purposes. I believe it's in the region of one per fifty passengers. Since you have to have them on the plane, they might as well sell stuff.

    53. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      I can tell you haven't flown a lot in the US pre 9/11 and then afterwards. Because if you are telling me the airlines are giving away MORE free things now (you don't even get a meal unless you pay for it now at all) then it is you who needs to do some more research. Getting a whole can of soda now does not necessarily mean things are going peachy for the airlines. look at the rising cost of fuel, the decline in passengers, and the increased security costs and then tell me with a straight face the airlines are doing much better than in pre 9/11 times. I have flown about 30 times - most of it pre 9/11 - and can tell you unequivocally airlines are offering less to customers now than before. Headphones, unlimited snacks (including peanuts which are now to spendy to offer), entire meals, and on international flights sometimes even beer all use to be free. You now pay for every one of those things. So sorry, but my personal anecdotal evidence trumps the fact that you flew 3 times and got a free soda. But screw anecdotal evidence. Like i said, look at the profit loss statements for airlines and compare them now to then. That is really all the evidence you need.

      P.S. Asking who is being naive is hardly snarky or "overbearingly callous". Grow some skin.

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    54. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Nick+Ives · · Score: 1

      The GP was using simile by comparing flight attendants to air marshals. The point is that the FAA requires a certain number of cabin crew depending on the size of the plane and so that's the number of cabin crew airlines employ. There's no requirements for the cabin crew to actually do anything other than the safety briefings or handle emergency situations.

      The point is that "rather than have them sit around looking like air marshals" the airlines have them do other things.

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    55. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by squidguy · · Score: 1

      UA's domestic first class meal lineup has improved a little thanks to CO, but generally it's little different from what we used to get flying in whY.

    56. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ho much did you have to pay for that? I'm guessing it was less than that flight from Miami to Boston. A lot less.

    57. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      I was originally responding to the post which claimed, though it may have been a humoric exaggeration, that airlines only serve a small amount of beverage now.

      I've been on roughly 30 flights just in the past 5 years, yes a lot has changed since the pre 9/11 days. First of all, ticket prices don't seem to be rising nearly as fast as inflation. In 1994 I went to Brazil and my ticket was $1500. In 2007 I went back and my ticket was $1100. So yes, profit margains for airlines has strunk considerably. Yes, you now have to pay for a meal on all domestic flights. If you want a non-alcoholic drink, all you have to do is ask and they will provide it to you. If you'd like another snack bag, chances are they will give you one. Some airlines charge for the headsets, some only charge if you keep them.

      It is so much cheaper to fly these days than it was 15 years ago. I'm not going to complain that they only offer me 1 can of soda and a small back of crackers on my 4 hour flight from Ohio to LAX. 4 hours is nothing. The other option is to drive... which would end up being more costly if it required just 1 over-night stop.

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    58. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Oh I agree with you completely. I was refuting the other poster's assumption that the airlines are doing better now than pre 9/11, which obviously they are not.

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    59. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Methuseus · · Score: 1

      They're getting paid more, yes, but with a negligible amount more training and experience, as well as fewer background checks it seems. I think the parent poster, though, was talking about the fact they are there to direct people in the event of a water landing, etc.

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    60. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Kelbear · · Score: 2

      My interpretation of the posts above is not that JoeMerchant is implying that all flight attendants are Air Marshalls. He's saying that their primary purpose is promoting safety from accidental harm, and that they simultaneously work to provide a more comfortable atmosphere rather than passively sitting around like an Air Marshal would in their respective role of promoting safety.

      It's less intimidating to have a steward/stewardess, than to have a "safety officer" patrolling the aisles, even if they both share the same primary purpose.

    61. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously either have no idea what the word awful means, or you do not, in fact, ever fly first class.

      As a frequent flyer, I am upgraded to first class all the time. US Airways first class was quite nice the last time I flew it (two months ago). As was Delta/Northwest Continental, United, Copa, Lufthansa, Air China, ANA, etc...

    62. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      I have never in my life received a first class upgrade and I have flown at least a million miles.

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    63. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      it's funny though when the flight schedule has 'snacks are served' time slot.
       
      and then the snack is a pinky sized chocolate crispy bar, essentially a freebie advert of the snack itself(in all fairness that flight was just one hour flight.. but waiting for it wasn't).

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    64. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      there's a certain amount of float about when the announcement to land can be made, so they used that. big deal.

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    65. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      When he did hand his tray to one stewardess, another stewardess pressed a button that set off a chime in the cockpit - within 5 seconds the pilot announced and started our descent into Amsterdam.
      Ascending and descending is done based up on request by ATC, not at the pilot's discretion. The pilot can tell ATC they are unable, but the fact that a first class passenger has not finished eating is not going to be an acceptable reason to waive off a request.

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    66. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing it was less than that flight from Miami to Boston. A lot less.

      "How much you paid" is irrelevant in this context - You need to ask what the profit margin was. If you pay $1200 to fly from Seattle to London then that may seem like a lot of money entitling you to free scotch. If, however, the cost to the airline to have your bum in their seat is $1180, then there's no room for free scotch. That's the number to look at - How much was the profit on that MIA -> BOS flight? I'm guessing not much...

    67. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by bberens · · Score: 1

      I'm not surprised at all that charging the same or more for less product results in increased revenues. I was responding to someone mentioning the tiny size of the snack packs. Well when removing 1 olive from a salad saves millions (my peanut example was corrected by another user) and people don't complain then it's clear to see how that system will progress. A race to the bottom.

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    68. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by chimpo13 · · Score: 1

      I stopped flying US based airlines unless I don't have a choice. I'd rather spend the extra $20 for the much higher level of treatment. I've never paid for a drink, headphones, snacks or meals. Domestic or overseas.

    69. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by TheABomb · · Score: 1

      I've got several food allergies, one of which did put me in the hospital as a child. Of course, I actually have to eat the foods in question before that happens, so apparently I'm not a representative sample of overblown hysteria.

      And I flew Continental last month; they gave full cans of pop in coach free (adult beverages were $7), and I even got multiple cans no-hassle. No peanuts (that I recall, other than the M&Ms I brought along), but they did have almonds for sale. $#!%%y, saltless almonds, but nuts nonetheless.

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    70. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by joggle · · Score: 1

      Were you on a commercial jet? That's only a 3-hour flight (1300 miles, jets travel at about 500 mph). You can fly from Miami to Seattle in under 6 hours (or from Boston to London in about that time).

      I'm not trying to nitpick. If you're on a 6-hour flight, you will get more than just a few peanuts since it isn't reasonable to expect people to go without food that long. But three hours? So long as you eat something before the flight you'll be fine, unless you are diabetic.

    71. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2

      Well, that is kind of hard to do when you live in the US and are traveling to the US. (I can't help but notice Qantas or Ryan Air doesn't offer a lot of flights originating in and destined for US cities.) My choice is fly US airlines, or drive. That said I have gotten some bargain basement flight prices on some small US airlines that offer no perks. I am fine with that. I would rather save the $70 on my 3 hour flight than have the crew kiss my ass a little when odds are I will be drunk, sleeping, reading, or watching a movie the entire time. However flying on an international 12 hour plus flight i may consider spending a little extra.

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    72. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by chimpo13 · · Score: 2

      When I'm in the US, I prefer to drive, ride or take the train. I'll fly if I have to, but I don't like going through TSA. I'm not a picky traveler. I'll eat whatever and sit wherever but just the general tone of foreign airlines is much nicer. Metal knives and forks (that TSA wouldn't let you bring anyway). Staff that doesn't seem as dickish, often actually polite! I like tilting at windmills and one of them is US based airlines. I see spending the extra $70 as well worth it.

    73. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... and second-class, fugly, old, rejected, blonde bimbos, by the look of that first picture.

    74. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Sunshinerat · · Score: 4, Informative

      You're doing it wrong then...
      I am at a million and have not seen economy seats in the last two years, even though I buy nothing but economy tickets...
      You may be stuck on an airline that does not have 2+ class service.
      Again, you are doing it wrong by not participating in an airline program, or have not flown a million miles, or have been flying for the last 20 years and not hitting 50.000 miles a year on one airline, or always fly the same route, weekday and time on a plane where upgrades are impossible (planes with a small number of business/first class seats, while flying hub to hub).

      The trick is, say with one airline (or hotel chain) as much as possible.
      Silver level (typically 25.000 miles plus) will give you a small chance of upgrades (it happens on off-days/times).
      Gold (typically 50.000 miles plus) will give you a decent chance of upgrade on many routes, however, if you fly between hub airports you may be out of luck.
      Platinum (or whatever; 75.000 miles or more) is what you aim for. Almost certain to upgrade on flights unless your flight is an international feeder or hub to hub with nothing but status people. I have seen flights where United Global Services people (special invitation only) fly middle seat economy.

      And finally, if you have status, most airlines will give you ways of getting free booze in economy in case you are stuck there (vouchers or friendly flight attendants).

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    75. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Smauler · · Score: 1

      If you're on a 6-hour flight, you will get more than just a few peanuts since it isn't reasonable to expect people to go without food that long.

      Seriously? I realised on wednesday last week that I'd not eaten _anything_ for 48 hours. I had had a few sugary drinks though. That wasn't deliberate, and I know it's not healthy, but 6 hours? This was while doing a physical job too....

    76. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Sunshinerat · · Score: 1

      If you fly for food, you should reconsider your ways of obtaining food.
      Nowadays you can buy a box of pringles on your flight or bring your own fancy BLT.
      To be honest, bringing your left over lunch trumps any food served on the plane, even business/first class.

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    77. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by jbonomi · · Score: 1
    78. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And your private, slightly larger bathroom and your choice of flight attendant

    79. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by DutchUncle · · Score: 1

      When the snacks & drink cart is in the aisle, people tend to stay seated because there's noplace to go. Yet most people don't feel "trapped" because they are being served. This is a deliberate situation.

      On the other hand, I once sat next to a very friendly gentleman on an El Al flight who conversed freely for hours but always faced forward - neck problems from a sports injury, he said. Only after I offered him the window seat for the approach to NYC (since he'd never been there before) did he explain why he had to stay near the aisle . . . with a clear view of the little mirrors . . .

    80. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By now he's been exposed to enough radiation to cause him to mutate enough tho grow his own wings.

    81. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Besides, every time you ask for a refill is another attempt to get you to buy an alcoholic beverage/meal/whatever other upcharge.

      Unless flying Lufthanza, Air Canada or some others, and then alcohol is free too. However, on American planes, I've learned just to bring my own. Besides, it's cheaper to buy stuff in the airport terminal at airport terminal prices, and those little bottles of alcohol can be got at a size that will go in your little plastic bag through security.

    82. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      , and those little bottles of alcohol can be got at a size that will go in your little plastic bag through security.

      Sometimes they'll go through. Sometimes they'll confiscate them. Although, in that case, I'd just drink them all.

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    83. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      Hell, I drove from Altoona, PA to Phoenix, AZ and I STILL didn't get any free food! I even had to feed the damn cat!

    84. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A few hundred pounds of jet fuel? Lets run this one out shall we?

      i don't know what vehicle the OP was talking about, but Boeing 777-200 is the shortest distance variant of that type. It carries a maximum of 31k US gallons of Avgas at a 6.02lbs/US gallon, to a total weight of 186620 lbs. The Boeing 777-200 has a maximum flight range of 5240 nautical miles. Meaning that they burn 35.6 lbs of fuel per mile. (Actual amount somewhat less.. part of the maximum fuel capacity/maximum range is going to have a margin of safety)

      A few hundred pounds of fuel will last you roughly.. 10 nautical miles. Which at the 777-200's cruise speed of .84 mach means they'll have burned a few hundred pounds in about.. 1 minute.

      I'm sure the cabin crew was JUST about to nag the guy to hurry the fuck up, cause he was taking more than a minute but fortunately for him, he finished in time to avoid it!

    85. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Most times I eat lunch at a restaurant, I end up waiting for the entire table to finish before our check(s) are brought around - this wasn't much different - about 12 seats total in First that day. As to whether or not it makes sense, it was something I experienced - I have experienced lots of things that make less sense than this.

    86. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      One time I got a 3/4 ounce bag of peanuts. The next time I flew that route it was only 1/2 ounce of peanuts.

      I once drove my car six hours from Vancouver, BC to Portland OR. NO ONE gave me free food! Can you believe it? I actually had to bring my own in the car.

      Yes, of course, always a possibility, unless the food you want to carry includes more than 3 ounces of liquid - then TSA might have a special room for you...

    87. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      This same itinerary had me on British Airways for the long hops, and, yes, BA coach service is (was?) a whole 3 notches higher than any US domestic carrier I have ever flown.

    88. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      This was a rather abrupt start of a rather steep descent, but I agree that some coincidence of timing also played in. I would guess that they had allowed X minutes for service and it just so happened that the notice of service complete came in at a time when the pilot could start a descent NOW without going around the holding pattern one more time. In no way do I believe that a passenger in any class could reliably control the course of the aircraft, but on this day the man in First did seem to affect it more than I previously believed possible.

    89. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Maybe the fog of memory has distorted the details. Facts include: Miami -> Boston, afternoon departure - not sure when, flight getting tediously boring while passing New York and taking an amazingly long time to get from there to Boston. I do clearly remember the cabin temperature being uncomfortably low, adding to the gnawing gut sensation.

      I'm not implying that I would have starved to death or anything, but I certainly have received more generous service on a Miami->Tampa hop than I did on those flights to Boston.

    90. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      I certainly have never "flown for the food," but when handling the logistics of packing and preparing for the trip, taxi to the airport and whatever else needs doing on a travel day, as a person who "knows they have a choice when they fly," I would choose to spend an extra $10 or $20 of the company's money to go with an airline that at least provides a decent microwave meal that I don't have to think about / saves me the time and effort of dealing with it on the ground. Sadly, all the choices are about the same anymore, at least for domestic (US) carriers.

    91. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by dkf · · Score: 1

      a first class passenger has not finished eating is not going to be an acceptable reason to waive off a request

      Unless said passenger is a senior airline executive. Or possibly the head of the ATC service. There are certain people that the pilot won't want to annoy, but you're almost certainly not one of them.

      Or it could be just coincidence. It does happen. All the time.

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    92. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      Before they were terribly inefficient businesses which is why they had to charge so much for a ticket. Operationally, they are better now... of course so much competition means profit margins are slim.

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    93. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simple math like this shouldn't amaze anyone let alone slashdot readers...

    94. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by mjwx · · Score: 1

      What do you fly? I fly coach and have touched just about every major US airline in the past 3 years.. they always give me a full can of soda and if I get thirsty later in the flight they will give me a 2nd can if I request.

      Who do you fly with, I fly on Malaysian, Singapore or Thai and they poor the drink into a cup with ice for you, and you dont even need to request it, they bring around trays of soft drink, water, juice and beer at semi regular intervals.

      The worst service I received on a Thai flight was when the flight attendant handed me a beer and a cup expecting me to pour it myself. But they served cognac after the meal so I let it slide.

      BTW, this is all in economy class.

      I agree with you about the snack, though. Need 4 or 5 of those to tide me over on a cross-country filght. But again, usually once everyone has gotten 1 they will let you have more.

      On a 5 hour Singapore flight, you'll be served a full meal shortly after reaching cruising altitude plus a snack (normally fruit and ice cream) shortly before descent.

      Last time I had an inedible airline meal was the last time I flew QANTAS.

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    95. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 1

      time I had an inedible airline meal was the last time I flew QANTAS.

      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/travel/news/qantas-passengers-fed-expired-sangers/story-e6frg8ro-1226086965343

      Why does that not surprise me, somehow...

    96. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Profits are the only thing the really matter to corporations though. Anything else is just window dressing.

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    97. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the flights I've experienced, you got a small cup with some ice and soda, which was poured from a regular-sized 12 ounce can (but the cup only held about 6 ounces). However, if you specifically asked for a can, you got a whole can, and the small 6-ounce cup with some ice in it for you to pour it into.

      It seems a bit weird to me that they'd hand a passenger a can of thin aluminum that could easily be converted into a cutting weapon, when they won't let you bring nail clippers on-board. But hey, it's a security theater.

    98. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      That and when the descent can be made.

      The most efficient and fastest route is to let the autopilot keep the plane in cruise until the last possible minute, and then cut the power to idle and glide down all the way to the airport at the maximum speed possible.

      However, often ATC wants you to start down sooner for various reasons, but often with some level of discretion. The pilot can basically start down any time they want, and the autopilot just does a slow powered descent at less than the maximum descent rate until it intercepts the path it would have taken and then it starts a full-rate descent. Descending early wastes fuel and time, since you're spending more distance in thicker atmosphere where there is more drag and a lower ground-speed.

      Or, if the pilot wants to keep the plane in cruise longer he can, but at that point he has to deploy the spoilers to increase the descent rate until he intercepts the most efficient path at which point he stows them and the autopilot continues on the normal path.

      So, there is quite a bit of play. Running the spoilers a little doesn't really waste that much fuel, and neither does descending a little earlier.

      Now, if you wait too long then you end up having to hold/etc since you can't get into the pattern at the right altitude without ripping the wings off the plane or making everybody scream.

    99. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by bruceslog · · Score: 1

      Southwest, as the only airline not approved by the galactic empire, is probably not a good example.

      They are much less evil than the others due to the fact they can actually make money honestly.

      agreed... +1 to tripleevenfall

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    100. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      From what I've seen the issue is that first class on domestic US flights doesn't have the same meaning it does on international flights. Likewise, the lounges in US airports (dominated by domestic routes) are nowhere near as nice as the ones internationally (for US carriers - since all their traffic is international).

      Likewise the tickets aren't even remotely comparable. A domestic coach ticket might be $500 round-trip, and first class might cost you a few hundred more. On the other hand, coach to Asia might cost $1k, with business class costing $10k, and I don't even want to think about what first costs. As a result, business class to Asia is a LOT nicer than first class domestically.

      However, the food, increased service, and MUCH greater room often makes the upgrade nice. I doubt I'd ever pay cash for it, but I find it a useful way to use miles on long flights...

    101. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by mjwx · · Score: 1

      It seems a bit weird to me that they'd hand a passenger a can of thin aluminum that could easily be converted into a cutting weapon, when they won't let you bring nail clippers on-board. But hey, it's a security theater.

      Asian airlines still beleive in this weird concept called customer service and trust that their patrons dont want to turn a aluminium can into a poor cutting weapon.

      BTW, it's not easy to turn an intact can into a weapon, especially without someone noticing.

      BTW2, you will learn to love the metric system. Airlines either serve 250 ml, 33 cl or 0.375 l cans depending on which country they fly out of as different nations use different sizes.

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    102. Re:Yet *still* no full-sized soft drink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but you don't have to ask the TSA for permission to bring a soda into your car. Somehow, that closed and sealed can of coke is a possible threat.

  2. And more importantly by suso · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He is still alive.

    1. Re:And more importantly by mr1911 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      He may be alive, but is he sane? I can't imagine dealing with TSA, gate agents, and all of the other hassles that go with air travel that many times.

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    2. Re:And more importantly by RazzleFrog · · Score: 5, Funny

      He flies first class. They actually get to molest TSA agents instead in first class.

    3. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Complaining about TSA is overrated.
      The security process is so predictable that it's easy to quickly get through and on your way. First-timers and the people who are unprepared at the conveyor belt are generally slow about the process. They are to blame for long lines and delays.

    4. Re:And more importantly by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      He may be alive, but is he sane? I can't imagine dealing with TSA, gate agents, and all of the other hassles that go with air travel that many times.

      It's like any other B.S. in life, if you do it enough, it doesn't bother you. TSA will always be a sore spot for a lot of people because they just don't encounter it often enough to develop the social callouses.

    5. Re:And more importantly by Bastardchyld · · Score: 2

      Honestly flying coach and flying business/first class are totally different experiences, as someone who flies both rather regularly. As a coach passenger you are really treated more akin to luggage. The upper classes come with automatic respect (except of course from the coach passengers). Even the TSA experience is usually better, though shoes come off so they can better grab your sack no matter what your ticket says.

      One interesting observation, in the articles photo he is flanked by two attractive flight attendants. So all it takes is 10M miles?

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    6. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you don't see how adding to that process with unecessary security theatre could possibly be making the situation worse at all? I read somewhere that the amount of time people spend removing their shoes and putting them back on at airline security - millions of travellers spending a minute or so each time they travel - adds up to over a thousand (average lifespan) lives a year in lost time. Nobody feels any safer, everybody just feels harassed.

    7. Re:And more importantly by Hazel+Bergeron · · Score: 1

      Yes, those who do not quickly comply without complaint are always to blame.

    8. Re:And more importantly by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      10 million *air* miles. He's got 50M frequent flyer miles.

    9. Re:And more importantly by Abstrackt · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's like any other B.S. in life, if you do it enough, it doesn't bother you. TSA will always be a sore spot for a lot of people because they just don't encounter it often enough to develop the social callouses.

      I fly at least monthly and it still bothers me, it has since 2001. The only way to get through the TSA line quickly is to smile politely and be half-naked by the time it's your turn. Take off your belt, stuff your watch in your jacket pocket before it goes through the X-ray (because they tell you to keep it on, it always beeps though, leading to a pat down), remove your shoes and hold your boarding pass in your teeth so your hands are free to throw everything on the belt. It kind of takes the fun out of traveling for some reason....

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    10. Re:And more importantly by enjerth · · Score: 1

      Sounds like some kind of dance.

    11. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I fly at least monthly and it still bothers me, it has since 2001.

      Well, there's the difference - once a month isn't enough to keep women from getting bitchy about their "special time," either.

      But, consider - do you throw yourself out of bed and transport yourself to a designated location at a designated time 5 days a week? This doesn't bother you? How about standing in line for 20 minutes just for the privilege of paying for some trivial thing? Or, giving 50 percent of your income away to a half a dozen taxing agencies who mostly do things with it that you don't care for or approve of?

      Life sucks all over, and TSA security theater is just the latest absurdity to come along

    12. Re:And more importantly by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      he is flanked by two attractive flight attendants.

      I don't want to sound harsh, but if that's what you consider attractive, more power to you. The one on the right is somewhat attractive, but neither is what I would consider to be the typical "attractive" flight attendant.

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    13. Re:And more importantly by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      But, consider - do you throw yourself out of bed and transport yourself to a designated location at a designated time 5 days a week? This doesn't bother you? How about standing in line for 20 minutes just for the privilege of paying for some trivial thing? Or, giving 50 percent of your income away to a half a dozen taxing agencies who mostly do things with it that you don't care for or approve of?

      No, no, no and no.

      Life the way you're living it sounds like it sucks.

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    14. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, but he wasted 6000 flights x 1/2 day per flight = ~ 8 years of his life sitting on airplanes.

    15. Re:And more importantly by mr1911 · · Score: 1

      I have flown business and first class quite regularly, and although it does remove some of the negative aspects of air travel, I certainly would not classify any experience as fun.

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    16. Re:And more importantly by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      stuff your watch in your jacket pocket before it goes through the X-ray (because they tell you to keep it on, it always beeps though, leading to a pat down)

      "Watch"? Isn't that one of those quaint old devices people used to wear on their wrists to tell the time, before the invention of cellphones?

    17. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The rules are more-or-less the same in Europe or visiting federal buildings in Washington DC as well (except the shoes part).

      As a frequent traveler, I would think you would realize how to optimize what you bring with you so that going through security takes minimal effort.
      Here's how I do it:
      0. Don't wear belt, watch, big jewelry or carry any liquids.
      1. While in line, throw everything from my pockets into either my jacket pockets or my carry on.
      2. Place boarding pass into now-empty pants pocket.
      3. Once you arrive at the belt, toss everything into bins
      4. Remove shoes and add them to a bin
      5. Once through security, grab everything from bins, walk to the designated area, and recombobulate

    18. Re:And more importantly by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      But, consider - do you throw yourself out of bed and transport yourself to a designated location at a designated time 5 days a week? This doesn't bother you?

      By doing this activity, people are rewarded with "money", which they can then exchange for other things like housing, food, and entertainment. It's not like they're just doing it because they're forced to.

    19. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, but he wasted 6000 flights x 1/2 day per flight = ~ 8 years of his life sitting on airplanes.

      Sitting on a plane, you don't have to listen to:

      • HR
      • Management
      • Co-workers
      • Customers

      8 years without those people sounds like a pretty good deal. You may have to deal with Del Griffith though, but that should prepare you for anything above, including sales seminars.

    20. Re:And more importantly by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      But, consider - do you throw yourself out of bed and transport yourself to a designated location at a designated time 5 days a week? This doesn't bother you? How about standing in line for 20 minutes just for the privilege of paying for some trivial thing? Or, giving 50 percent of your income away to a half a dozen taxing agencies who mostly do things with it that you don't care for or approve of?

      Life sucks all over, and TSA security theater is just the latest absurdity to come along

      If I spend enough time thinking about it there are certainly a lot of things I put up with without complaint but air travel is still the only one where I'm treated like a potential criminal simply for choosing to go somewhere.

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    21. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One interesting observation, in the articles photo he is flanked by two attractive flight attendants. So all it takes is 10M miles?

      Anecdotal evidence suggests that all the flight attendants in first class are more attractive than the ones in economy../p

    22. Re:And more importantly by Guppy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like some kind of dance.

      Yes, it's called the Safety Dance.

    23. Re:And more importantly by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      stuff your watch in your jacket pocket before it goes through the X-ray (because they tell you to keep it on, it always beeps though, leading to a pat down)

      "Watch"? Isn't that one of those quaint old devices people used to wear on their wrists to tell the time, before the invention of cellphones?

      It's also a device that doesn't need charging, can be used as a compass if the sun's up and depending on where you're traveling, is less likely to be stolen due to the relative difficulty of removing it from your person.

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    24. Re:And more importantly by loom_weaver · · Score: 1

      Typical benefits of flying first class:
      1. you get your own lines at check-in
      2. you get your own lines at the security check... and most people in this line know how to get through security quickly: easy slip-off shoes, computer in its own bin, bottles of liquid tossed. It really isn't all that bad compared to the TSA horror stories you hear about.
      3. you get to board the plane first
      4. large comfortable seats, free booze, decent meals compared to the peanuts to you get in coach
      5. first-class cabin only bathroom
      6. you get to deplane first (this is a biggie!)
      7. if flights are cancelled occur you usually have your own specialized hot-lines with agents ready to rebook you if it hasn't already been done automatically by the airline
      8. if the plane crashes you're near the front and are guaranteed a quick painless death

      Overall it's a completely different experience. Airlines bend over backwards for their frequent customers because they spend a lot of money over the course of a year.

    25. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least in Atl, first class have their own line, with nice TSA agents.

    26. Re:And more importantly by donscarletti · · Score: 1

      When I have flown first class there are two possible scenarios that numb the thrill:

      1. Employer wants me to fly out tomorrow at 12 hours notice and there are no economy seats left.
      2. Employer wants me to fly out tomorrow at 12 hours notice and any economy ticket will be returned with a suggestion of where to put it.

      Either way, I'm inevitably flying home on the cheapest ticket they can find. One time I flew out in first class and went back on a train (1100KM).

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    27. Re:And more importantly by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I can't say I've ever worried much about my cheap (free actually, with 2-year plan) cellphone being stolen. And since I carry it on me at all times, I've never had much trouble keeping it charged.

    28. Re:And more importantly by tsadi · · Score: 1

      I agree with GP.

      Maybe there's a magic number that needs to be reached. I fly 104 times a year, and none of the checks bother me anymore. (the man in the article flies 200 times a year - he can probably move around the airports with his eyes closed)

    29. Re:And more importantly by cp.tar · · Score: 1

      I’d hate to guess where you plug it in.

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    30. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are another job well done by the Training Services of America.

    31. Re:And more importantly by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      6. you get to deplane first (this is a biggie!)

      Only if you have no checked luggage.

    32. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      hold your boarding pass in your teeth so your hands are free to throw everything on the belt.

      Interesting solution. Though I prefer always traveling wearing a shirt with pockets - keeps things like boarding passes from getting too wrinkled (and I avoid ink-taste).
      Plus, if you look like a business traveler (which I typically am), then you're less likely to be hassled.

    33. Re:And more importantly by Zarhan · · Score: 1

      Usually the first class passengers' luggage arrives at the conveyor first as well.

    34. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I should be mad at you... now turn around.

    35. Re:And more importantly by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      Have you SEEN the kind of ladies that work for the TSA?

      I bet their would be a lot less complaints if they all looked like super models...

    36. Re:And more importantly by blair1q · · Score: 1

      At an average value of 2 cents each, that's a cool million dollars worth of miles.

    37. Re:And more importantly by loom_weaver · · Score: 1

      Just like in "Up in the Air", one thing you learn pretty quick as a frequent flyer is that you never check your luggage.

    38. Re:And more importantly by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

      That's true. If you look at the "requirements" for stewardesses (yes - stewardesses) for airlines outside of America - particularly in Asia, they're more strict than the most high-profile beauty pageants.

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    39. Re:And more importantly by Kittenman · · Score: 1

      One time I flew out in first class and went back on a train (1100KM).

      I know someone who couldn't get a flight, and hence took a taxi from Vienna to Bratislava, capital of Slovakia. About 12 hours, he said. He and the taxi driver still correspond.

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    40. Re:And more importantly by dkf · · Score: 1

      I know someone who couldn't get a flight, and hence took a taxi from Vienna to Bratislava, capital of Slovakia. About 12 hours, he said. He and the taxi driver still correspond.

      Vienna to Bratislava?? That's only 50 miles; I commute further than that every day to work. Either they were taking a horribly indirect route or they were stuck in the mother and father of all jams.

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    41. Re:And more importantly by Macgrrl · · Score: 2

      I had one trip with transfers where I was pulled aside for the random explosives check at every boarding opportunity both ways. A traveling companion remarked on it at one of the smaller airports, the security officer said I looked "too innocent".

      Go figure.

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    42. Re:And more importantly by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      When I used to fly frequently for work, I had a hard sided case that was 'cabin luggage' sized which would carry my laptop, compendium, several days changes of clothes and toiletries.

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    43. Re:And more importantly by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      The watch also doesn't cost you 50 cents every time somebody texts you while you're overseas with it turned on - a charge you have no way of avoiding short of turning off a phone, which makes it of limited use as a chronometer.

    44. Re:And more importantly by Kuruk · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

      That's a lot of radiation exposure.

    45. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The radiation from being up there must add up. Makes you wonder if he has cancer from it all.

    46. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That really sucks. I'm on a PAYG plan in the UK and while it may cost a small fortune (well, 49p) to send texts while abroad, it's still free to receive them.

    47. Re:And more importantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      8. if the plane crashes you're near the front and are guaranteed a quick painless death

      Supposedly the best place to sit if you want to survive is near the wing, this is where the plane's structure is strongest.

  3. my favorite part of "Tron" by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    Did he get to meet Sam Elliot?
    Oh wait, that was Jeff Bridges...

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    1. Re:my favorite part of "Tron" by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      No, that was George Clooney.

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  4. Deja vu? by sharkette66 · · Score: 1

    Didn't Ryan Bingham do this already?

  5. Carbon emissions! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder what his carbon emissions are!!!

  6. Zero. by rwade · · Score: 1

    0. The plane would fly regardless of whether this one single guy bought a ticket or not.

    1. Re:Zero. by wwfarch · · Score: 1
      Even assuming the plane would fly anyway like the OP the emissions certainly aren't 0. The man does increase the weight of the plane slightly which leads to some amount of increased fuel.

      I agree though that analyzing the situation as the OP did is amazingly stupid.

  7. My kind of technology by tusam · · Score: 1

    Soon at the heart of every computer there's a metal fan.

    1. Re:My kind of technology by tusam · · Score: 1

      D'oh.. had http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/07/12/1348243/The-Fanless-Spinning-Heatsink open in second tab, meant to comment that.

  8. Lot of people have airplanes named for them... by Wook+Man · · Score: 1

    You get an airplane named after you at 1 million miles, if I remember correctly.

    1. Re:Lot of people have airplanes named for them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the Nazis named a whole plane model after this guy and that was seventy years ago. You need a bit more than one million miles to top that.

    2. Re:Lot of people have airplanes named for them... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Everyone except my cousin, Flyte Downes.

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  9. What level? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of carbon-footprint hell is this guy going to? Don't forget he's a car salesman. The only thing missing is his hobby of clubbing baby seals.

    1. Re:What level? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing missing is his hobby of clubbing baby seals.

      wouldn't that actually contribute to reducing carbon emissions?

    2. Re:What level? by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      It could be worse. He could be a part-time lawyer or politician too.

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    3. Re:What level? by delinear · · Score: 1

      Depends if he's taking a plane out to the breeding grounds and how many he clubs while he's there.

    4. Re:What level? by slartibartfastatp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Were it not a NP Complete problem, he wouldn't get that many miles

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  10. 10 full time years? by vlm · · Score: 1

    Check my math... 10e6 miles / 0.5e3 miles per hour = 20e3 hours, right? Did this in my head and its early in the morning... Standard work year is about 2e3 hours so he's spent 10 years equivalent of a full time job sitting in an airplane? With airport hassles he's probably up to 15 years of FTE work?

    What has he done with his 15 years of "work"? Are there even 20k hours of audio books worth listening to?

    Another back o ye envelope 10e6 miles / 6e3 flights = 1.2/3e3 miles per flight or rephrased 1667 miles per flight. What is he doing? Not flying from Chicago to Japan, I'm guessing. Nor Chicago to Detroit. Hmm.

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    1. Re:10 full time years? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      He likely slept through a lot of it.

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    2. Re:10 full time years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chicago to Southern Cali would be my guess for a lot of those. Driving (obviously more miles than flying) from Chicago to Flagstaff is around 1600 miles.

    3. Re:10 full time years? by halivar · · Score: 1

      No, see, he's been flying west the whole time, so he gets more hours per day.

    4. Re:10 full time years? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      I get the same thing, but if you look at it another way - ~20 hours a week for 29 years, he could have conceivably just been traveling an average of 4 hours a day and spending the rest of his time getting to and from the airport, with an occasional sales meeting thrown in.

      Be careful of job offers from companies that are just starting a big vendor qualification push - there is usually an engineer or two who lives this constant travel lifestyle for a year or two during fresh vendor qualifications for a significant product.

    5. Re:10 full time years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check my math...

      OK.

      10e6 miles / 0.5e3 miles per hour = 20e3 hours, right?

      Yep.

      ...so he's spent 10 years equivalent of a full time job sitting in an airplane?

      More like 2.34 years... 20000h/24h/d=833 days

    6. Re:10 full time years? by zabby39103 · · Score: 1

      He got 10 million "air miles" (reward points), not 10 million miles traveled.

      You're right, it's probably impossible to travel 10 million miles as a businessman. Maybe if you're a long haul pilot with a long career.

    7. Re:10 full time years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here:
      Excluding weekends it's about 4 flights every 5 days. So let's average it out to one every day

      See here: 29 years x 52 weeks x 5 days per week = 7540. 6000 flights / 7540 days = 0.79 flights per day. 0.8 x 5 = 4.

      Still, must be pretty familiar with airports :)

    8. Re:10 full time years? by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      No, he has traveled 10 million miles in the air. He's got 50 million frequent flyer miles. RTFA (yes, I kid).

    9. Re:10 full time years? by Rolgar · · Score: 1

      The GP was trying to calculate based on the number of work years. That is, if he was on a plane or in the airport everyday from 8-5, when regular folks are at the office.

    10. Re:10 full time years? by lastchance_000 · · Score: 1

      According to TFA, he's got over 50 million frequent flier miles. While I'm sure that "air miles" don't translate exactly to miles flown, it's probably close enough.

    11. Re:10 full time years? by MooseTick · · Score: 1

      20000h/24h/d=833 days

      I don't know about you, but I don't usually work 24 hours a day for 833 consecutive days.

    12. Re:10 full time years? by d4fseeker · · Score: 1

      I know, I know it's hard to RTFA.
      But this time the article features a big image containing all important details:
      http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/11/article-2013318-0CF5AE3B00000578-835_468x332.jpg

      He really flew 10M miles and currently has left 50M "frequent flyer" reward miles.

    13. Re:10 full time years? by arisvega · · Score: 1

      more averages;

      6000/30 flights/year ~ 200 flights/year

      Say his work days are Mon - Fri, that would be 52*5 = 260 working days per year. Assuming his flights are on working days and an even spread, ~4 out of his 5 working days involve a flight - for the past 29 years!

      The airline should put a statue of him on display, this is far beyond the "naming planes out of you" point.

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    14. Re:10 full time years? by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

      Double miles? Relatives in India? Who knows. When I traveled to Australia/New Zealand and back I got a LOT more than 1667 miles...

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    15. Re:10 full time years? by cababunga · · Score: 1

      The other interesting calculation is that about 10e6*1.6/25 = 640000 litters of fuel were burned on his behalf by aircraft. http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/withouthotair/cC/page_277.shtml

    16. Re:10 full time years? by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      I fly 2 to 4 times a week from 1200 to 1500 miles each way. That's about 200 flights per year. Each flight is approximately 3 to 3 and half hours gate to gate.

      on the short side, 100 flights per year that's about 300 to 350 hours in the plane on the high side 600 to 700. That doesn't include my semi-weekly proctology exam by the TSA and standing in lines, endless lines. If you add it up it's a lot of time in an airline seat regardless of how short the flight is.

      All I have to say is this guy has no life because to do that many miles isn't really an accomplishment, it's an indictment on how he chooses to spend his life.

      As for me, I'm going to start traveling less and try to get my flight count down below 50 in 2012. Even then, that's a lot of flights.

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    17. Re:10 full time years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Accumulating miles is *not* the same as flying them. First of all, he probably has a United-affinity credit card. Immediately doubles the miles he gets just for charging his tickets. Then there are promotions where you can get double (or even treble) miles for flying a certain route and/or within a certain date range. Once you have frequent flyer status you get extra "bonus" miles. There are multiple ways that you can accumulate miles far beyond those actually flown. The worst part about this story is that he clearly doesn't redeem his miles - which means when United inevitably goes bankrupt because of their poor service and disregard for passengers, he'll lose them all...

    18. Re:10 full time years? by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      You're excluding the possibility of multiple flights in one day, which is quite likely, especially if he has to transfer aircraft. I once took 6 flights, covering 6,600 miles, in a 4 day period, and only 2 of those days were actually spent in the air.

      If he's traveling for business, it's quite possible to get on a plane in the morning, fly 1,500 miles, go to a 2 hour meeting, fly 1,500 miles to get back home, then do it again the next day. Not practical or cost-effective for most people, but there are always exceptions.

    19. Re:10 full time years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comment made me smile today. Thanks.

      The last thing I was expecting in a story about air travel.

      No mod points today sorry.

    20. Re:10 full time years? by arisvega · · Score: 1

      You're excluding the possibility of multiple flights in one day

      Explicitly yes, but these are just some median values I am spitting out there; it is very plausible that he has been flying twice, even thrice a day.

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  11. Plane named after him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Stuka?

    1. Re:Plane named after him by Canazza · · Score: 1

      No, a Spitfire.

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    2. Re:Plane named after him by mikkelm · · Score: 1

      Messerschmitt.

    3. Re:Plane named after him by Kohath · · Score: 3, Funny

      Amazingly enough, his real name is Airbus A320.

  12. So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why is this a /. article?

    1. Re:So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go back to gizmodo.

  13. He must get most of his sleep in the air. by SJHillman · · Score: 1

    By my very quick estimations, 6000 flights over 29 years comes out to him boarding a plane, on average, every 41 hours. For almost three decades.

  14. Radiation... by mrquagmire · · Score: 1

    Think of all the radiation and groping this man has had to endure at the hands of the TSA. I'd like to see a follow up article 5 years from now to let us know what type of cancer he's dying from.

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    1. Re:Radiation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention a extra large dose of cosmic rays. Then there is all the sitting which must be giving his ass pressure sores by now. He must have spent more time in airports than at home.

    2. Re:Radiation... by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      Perhaps he's developed a mutant super power? That would explain all the flying. He's probably fighting crime all over the world. He'll have to air commute until he mutates himself some flying powers.

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    3. Re:Radiation... by darrylo · · Score: 1

      That was my first thought, too. However, the extra radiation, while significantly higher than normal, doesn't seem all that high; when he flys, he's probably getting just an extra ~3 day's worth of his normal radiation exposure.

      (Assuming exposure can be fudged like this: from xkcd, a flight from New York to Los Angeles gives you maybe an extra 4 day's worth of your normal daily radiation exposure. Distance from NY to LA is ~ 2462miles. 1e6miles/6000 flights => ~1667miles/flight. 1667/2462 => ~0.69. So, an "average flight" gives him a bit less than 3 day's worth of radiation.)

  15. Better Comparison Than To Clooney... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    The article tries to compare him to George Clooney's character in Up In The Air. Reading the article (I know, we don't do that here) suggests there is a better comparison, based on what he does for a living.

    I think he is more like Jeremy Piven's character in The Goods.

    Of course, I am one of about 20 or so people who actually bothered to see that movie, so the comparison is likely lost on most. So we might as well instead compare him to a character in a well-known movie that nobody watched, instead of a lesser-known movie that nobody watched.

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    1. Re:Better Comparison Than To Clooney... by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      In Up In The Air, a big plot point is getting 10 million air miles. As the article is about the guy's achievement of getting 10 million air miles, not being a car dealer, it makes more sense to compare him to George Clooney.

    2. Re:Better Comparison Than To Clooney... by arcite · · Score: 0

      My favorite part of that movie was at the moment near the end of the movie when Clooney passes the threshold, he realizes that it was a trite and empty goal all along.

    3. Re:Better Comparison Than To Clooney... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Up In The Air, the character was trying to get 10 million frequent flyer miles, not "butt in seat" air miles. The comparable number that is in the article for this person is over 50 million frequent flyer miles.

    4. Re:Better Comparison Than To Clooney... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spoiler alert, dude! Spoiler alert!

    5. Re:Better Comparison Than To Clooney... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The trouble with that movie is that he is a dull and unlike-able character before his epiphany, and a dull and un-likeable character afterwards. It makes for a dull and un-likeable film...

      Jx

  16. Fun with maths by SMoynihan · · Score: 1

    29 years, almost 6,000 flights... that's about 207 flights a year - or approaching one flight per day for 2/3 of his last 29 years.

    Assuming they are talking about the circumference of the earth - that is about 16 million kilometers, or 10 million miles.

    [Brief Google searching to: http://www.carbonindependent.org/sources_aviation.htm%5D

    Given a a Boeing 737-400 jet (short international flights, likely a significant underestimation if most of his travel was inside the country), this gives a fuel use of 36.6 g/passenger km: so he has personally required used ca. 585,600 kg of fuel.

    CO2 emissions? 101 g/passenger km: 1,616,000 kg of gas personally generated.

    At sea level pressure / 25 degC, 1kg of CO2 gas = 556 L volume. So, we are talking 898 million liters of CO2 gas.

    Or, the equivalent of a cube with sides of about 100 m, about the length of a football field.

    Caveat emptor - these are all back of the envelope calculations - and likely gross underestimations.

  17. In unrelated news... by theotherbastard · · Score: 1

    In unrelated news, the record for "The man whose junk has been handled by the most strangers" has also been rewarded to Thomas Stuker.

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  18. TSA free-pass by Acapulco · · Score: 1

    How about buying some TSA patdown free-pass with some of is miles?

    It would be very cool if you could avoid some sexual harassment with your hard-earned miles no?

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  19. And his "carbon footprint" is... by TwobyTwo · · Score: 0

    Seriously, insofar as he's doing this to get work done or make some contribution, well OK, but he also crows loudly about running all over the world just for fun. Is this something we want to celebrate?

    1. Re:And his "carbon footprint" is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Now get lost, hippie.

    2. Re:And his "carbon footprint" is... by TwobyTwo · · Score: 1

      Hey, we hippies love you too!

  20. TSA Body Cavity Search technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's nothing; after 13 million miles the TSA will name a body-cavity search technique after him.

    1. Re:TSA Body Cavity Search technique by stderr_dk · · Score: 1

      13 million miles of TSA pat-downs?

      Oh, the humanity!

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  21. what kind of car salesman? by kmdrtako · · Score: 1

    The ones I know of are sitting in dealerships waiting for suckers, er, customers to walk into the showroom.

    1. Re:what kind of car salesman? by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Yes, I am confused too. The car salesmen I know usually end up driving a dealer vehicle because they can't afford their own, yet this guy has spent probably $20 million on plane tickets.

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    2. Re:what kind of car salesman? by CrAlt · · Score: 1

      Maybe he is a fleet salesmen for Ford/Chrysler. They may pay to fly him all over to pitch sales of new cop cars to cities and towns.

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  22. Not bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I thought my average of ~135 flights a year was lots.
    I almost reached the reward for one year lease on a high end Mercedes and then realize when on Earth would I have time to drive it - I am never home.
    I have often been left with stacks of first class upgrades that are left to expire. We had a basket at work just full of these upgrades (which can only be used if you purchase your fare at full price). But when the staff AND security know you by name they already give me upgrades every time I fly anyways.

    Love the rewards but often find little use for them. Donating them to charity is good but to spend them on naming a plane is cool!

  23. Well obviously by arcite · · Score: 1

    He was porking the cute airline stewardesses...

  24. How to ruin this man's life... by bgarcia · · Score: 1
    Quick, somebody add his name to the no-fly list!

    ;-)

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  25. Excessive traveling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excessive traveling is about as worthless as rating the quality of a software program by the number of lines of code.
    Cheers to you Thomas Stuker for burning so much fuel and wasting our precious resources.

  26. They should promote him by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    They should promote him to an Honorable Member of mile-high club.

    1. Re:They should promote him by psyclone · · Score: 1

      At this point, I'm sure he is already a regular member and does not need to be honorifically admitted.

  27. Re: And lest we forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Terminal cancer can be a small price to pay, for some, to have their junk fondled and suitcases rifled through

  28. Thats a lot of groping by aenigmainc · · Score: 1

    Wonder how much extra radiation, or extra groping he has endured. 29 years of travel is 1508 weeks. 6000 trips divided by 1508 weeks is 3.9 trips/week lets round that to 4. figure they started using the backscatter machine in the last 2 years thats about 416 trips through the machine, or maybe 416 gropes. Lets say he took gropes. at my local massage parlor i would pay about 30 - 50 bucks to be felt up so i figure he saved himself about 12k in handling charges.

  29. Sale in the sky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's all a stunt to sell his cars: Sale in the sky!

    1. Re:Sale in the sky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A car salesman who would rather fly than drive. Yeah, that's a great stunt...

  30. Celibate pimp by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

    A car salesman who only flies? Must be pretty good on the theory.

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  31. Mile High Club Member? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If not, that's what he should try to get out of them...

  32. Still alive, you say? by Kozz · · Score: 1

    Any armchair physicists care to calculate his levels of radiation exposure when you combine the flight time with the new-fangled porno-scanners? :)

    Poor guy, he's gone through more than anyone should have to endure.

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    1. Re:Still alive, you say? by glwtta · · Score: 1

      Any armchair physicists care to calculate his levels of radiation exposure when you combine the flight time with the new-fangled porno-scanners? :)

      Unless my math is way off, 20,000 hours of flight time is about 50 mSv total. So he could take five times that in a single dose and likely not suffer any ill effects.

      The porno-scanners are negligible (at least the published numbers for the porno-scanners are).

      As usual, people freak out about the least likely dangers - he's way more likely to die of a pulmonary embolism from DVT.

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  33. how many times did they lose the luggage? by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Its happened to me once in about 200 flights.

  34. Sarcastic Suggestion from epSos.de by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody tell him about video chats and e-mail.

  35. I'll have a whisky and lemonade please... by vorlich · · Score: 1

    I must be missing something about US air travel. I used to fly between the UK and Europe and between the UK and USA, economy I never ever had any problem getting a drink or six. Normally on a long haul flight overnight I would have a couple of drinks from the trolley and then I would ask for more whenever I wanted them. I was always cheerfully supplied with drinks (whisky and lemonade) and had a restful sleep. Same with the UK/European flights. I usually pushed the boat out on the way home since most of those flights land in the UK in the evening. On one flight from Heathrow to Edinburgh, I had so many miniatures of whisky and those little cans of 7 Up, I had all the refreshments necessary for the interminable train ride from Edinurgh to my then home. Now it is at least five years since my last trip to Asia and in Europe I prefer to drive anyway - European roads so good - but have things changed so drastically in economy class on BA, Lufthansa and Air France or is this just an American travel benefit?

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  36. A CAR salesman??? by tool462 · · Score: 1

    Let's not forget this Merchant of Death has blood on his hands.
    While he was racking up millions of miles in his aluminum skinned ivory tower, this DEALER was peddling steel coffins to the poor and unfortunate souls who braved the gauntlet of traffic EVERY DAY to get where they need to go.
    MILLIONS have died while he coursed through the skies in near-perfect safety.
    While he may fancy himself a god, pulling his chariot through the sky, he may find himself an Icarus treading too close to the sun.
    Repent your sins, sir. Cast off your vainglorious ways. Walk the earth with your fellow man, that you may know him better. Leave behind the dark road paved in misery and death. Step into the light. Salvation is at hand!

    1. Re:A CAR salesman??? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      He will die from his radiation exposure before his customers die of a car crash.

  37. And I thought my life sucked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's way too much flying. Period.

  38. named a plan after him? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With a carbon footprint like that, they should have named an oil tanker after him....

  39. Cool. by sootman · · Score: 1

    The only man in the airport who's truly entitled to say "I've got to catch my plane." :-)

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  40. Stuker? Stuka? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The morale boost knowing your flying in a plane loosely named after a dive bomber (Stuka) must be immense...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_87

  41. This just in... by Virtucon · · Score: 1

    Frequent Flyer Thomas Stuker has just been admitted for back surgery after he complained that his spine resembled that of a United Airlines seat. Doctors say that his hunched over physique would take years to fix with massive amounts of traction, surgery and laying on a bed of nails. Stuker was quoted as saying that the bed of nails would be "preferable" to sitting another day in a UAL seat.

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  42. Carbon footprint by blair1q · · Score: 1

    Coal mine.

  43. More than you think by lowlands · · Score: 1

    I don't know how many here fly an average of 200 times a year but that is a lot. Having flown for decades my record was 200+ European flights and about 50 (twice a week) flights from Amsterdam to the US. People I met with a lot actually thought that I lived there where "there" was e.g. London, Paris, New York etc. At some point you become the guy Up In The Air so I knew it was time to get out. That and the jet lag that never left. He did it for 29 years. That's pretty amazing.

  44. Does this man even work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He spends all his time in the air. What possible work does he do in the 5 minutes he's on the ground?

  45. Traveling salesman problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has he solved the traveling salesman problem?

  46. according to units(1) by darkonc · · Score: 1

    That's one flight every 1.76 days..... ouch.

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  47. Quite some radiation by saibot834 · · Score: 1

    He probably got around 160mS (milliSievert) in total, which even spread on several years is quite a lot (you normally get 4mS annually. Up to 50mS/year if you're a radiation worker) (calculation, data)

  48. United? by codeButcher · · Score: 1

    Isn't that the same airline that broke Dave Carrol's $3500 (Canadian, supposedly) Taylor guitar, and subsequently lost his luggage?

    One assumes they need some good press too....

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