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Modern Humans Bred With Evolutionary Predecessors In Africa
NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "Based on a new analysis of old skulls, it now appears that modern humans may have interbred with some earlier hominid species, suggesting that human evolution took a more complex path than previously thought. The study opines that modern humans lived side by side with the older species. Paleontologists disagree over the meaning of the findings, or whether they have any substantial significance at all."
Reminds me so much of this comic
once again proving that all men are created horny.
ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI!?
How do they draw this conclusion from a single fossil? Couldn't it have been a deformed human? There are still humans born with the occasional pre-humanoid traits, like tails.
If they didn't .. we wouldn't be here!
...the thought processes of such cultural collisions.
I imagine something like this, but the interaction would have been very interesting...
When you see your likeness, you are pleased. But when you see your images which came into being before you, and which neither die nor become manifest, how much you will have to bear!
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~ Whence do you come, slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?
Similar hypotheses have been suggested based on genetic evidence which suggested that humans and neanderthals interbred. See http://www.nhm.ac.uk/about-us/news/2010/may/first-genetic-code-of-neanderthal-reveals-inbreeding66724.html. In both cases, the work has been done by Chris Stringer who seems to focus a lot on this hypothesis. Stringer is a very respected anthropologist who was responsible for formulating a lot of the now accepted ideas about how homonids spread from Africa in successive waves of migrations.
Something tells me nerdy scientists aren't the best equipped for this field of study.
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I refuse to believe liberals and conservatives can interbreed. If there was a resulting hybrid offspring it would most certainly be sterile. There is a chance that one of the two known species of Homo Sapiens could interbred with the last remaining members of the Homo Centris sub species allowing extremist DNA to slowly migrate between the species. I haven't seen anything in Nature on the subject so I have my doubts.
Yes, I was wondering about that. On the usual definition of "species" they can't have interbred with a different species. Different subspecies yes, but species, no.
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Ever seen pics of Jane Goodall's kids?
Doesn't this prove that previously believed-to-be-extinct species of humans aren't extinct at all? They're Grandma?
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Here is a blog post on a related topic http://goo.gl/K3dDG. We already have genetic proof of interbreeding with Neanderthals and Denisovans (more common in specific asian populations). There are also suggestions that all of this mixing is a lot more complicated than we ever thought and not even subject to single periods of time. Personally I find the fact that we are actually a mix of old divergent species really exciting and our genome is really a big twisted mystery just asking to be unraveled to find out where the hell parts of it came from.
What more do you expect from someone who calls people "dude"?
Didn't these guys watch the last episode of the updated BSG?
... did they download copyrighted music to set the mood for their interspecies lovemaking?
+1 fashionably cynical
That explains how Cane and Abel had kids. When Adam and Even only had 2 sons.
So other then evolving from Monkeys we are inter-species hybrid of Monkeys. You know I think that is irreverent enough to get the evangelical christian nuts to support some elements of evolution. Vs accepting that we are descendants of a human monkey hybrid.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Apparently you're unfamiliar with manbearpig.
So someone really did bang an ape.
Yeah but with grog goggles (they didn't have beer back then) she looked like uh.....ok so she was a bit hairy.
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This reminds me of back in grade school when we'd have a section on genetic traits. There was always one kid who couldn't possibly have inherited all of his/her traits from both parents. (Eye color, hair color, blood type, etc.)
Humans from recorded history kept companions such as dogs and cats as pets.
This shows clear signs that they both shared beds and food with the animals so they most likely chose them as mates.
Also this giant "M" golden arch unearthed deems that they worshiped ancient Deity such as Ronald McDonald, a clown with face paint. Even more interesting is a giant purple god of consumption, labeled 'grimace'. Statues of this 'God of consumption' are found throughout the world proving that Grimace was worshiped on all hemispheres and major continents thousands of years ago.
I don't know why more people aren't pointing that out, and even moreso in the recent DNA studies giving evidence that humans and neanderthals "cross-bred." Personally I think this is largely just wordplay. If they just said, "new findings indicate human ancestors may have been more genetically diverse than previously thought (but of course, almost none of you know what was previously thought in the first place)," then nobody would care. But put it this way, and it people get all excited because it smacks of beastiality.
Interbreeding, so simple a caveman can do it.
Perverts!
My other sig is extremely clever...
The definition of species isn't very good. It's a convenient abstraction, and works in a lot of cases, but it doesn't entirely reflect reality. There are, for example, ring species that break it, and lots of fertile hybrids between species, and even hybrids between genera, especially in plants. Often, hybrids are not fertile, but sometimes they are. But it's important to remember that fertility isn't the only barrier to inter-species mating; behavioral, temporal and geographic barriers also play a very important part.
Africa was a business trip.
Honest.
Of course modern humans inbred with evolutionary predecessors. If they didn't, they wouldn't exist!
if the two groups can interbreed and produce viable offspring that are fertile...are they really two different species? I'm sure the definition of a species can have some gray area, but I thought this was one of the defining features of the definition.
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Geez people. You guys need to read failblog.org more:
Bros:
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"Bros"=/= black. Bros are the idiots that try to live like the cast of the Jersey Shore.
That's whom we get our erections from.
I've got an evolutionary ancestor IN MY PANTS!
H. Erectus?
At least now we know where the Kardashians came from.
That might explain Kim Kardashian's bestially humongous ass!
Who's to say we didn't have sex with animals and other 'human-like' apes???
I don't know about you, but that "we" doesn't include me dawg :)
There's been an avalanche of research published in the last year or so regarding these types of things, with a lot more scientific backing than the little bit I read in this article.
In one of many articles on the topic, this one raised a whole new series of questions about our ancestry:
Scientists unveil a newly-discovered, ancient human ancestor
Or check out these that all relate to different areas of genetic research, most empirical, one modeled, all relating supporting information about homo sapiens (that's us!) inbreeding with various offshoots and close relatives, with us apparently coming out the better? for it.
Neanderthal genes 'survive in us'
Sex with Neanderthals boosted human immunity
Neanderthals, Humans Interbred—First Solid DNA Evidence
Frontiers of Anthropology
Ancient DNA Reveals Secrets of Human History
Fossilised finger points to previously unknown group of human relatives
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
in the series finale to Battlestar Galactica?
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." - Richard Dawkins, in The God Delusion
Also, Susan B. Anthony's "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.". However, if there actually was an omnipotent but obnoxious god, would the omnipotence require us to acquiesce to the obnoxiousness?
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
Modern humans and evolutionary predecessors... How did that funding proposal go? "I want to build a time machine to get it on with a proto-human"
Geez, has someone been watching too much SyFy channel reruns?
That explains how Cane and Abel had kids. When Adam and Even only had 2 sons.
Dude -- you are not helping. Adam and Eve had *a lot* more children than two sons. At least twice that many offspring, in fact, because Genesis 4:25 states Adam fathered "sons and daughters," and a third son, Seth, is mentioned explicitly by name in both Genesis and Chronicles. And then there is the question of Lilith which weakens the exclusivity of the Adam/Eve relationship. If you are going to be snarky about the Christian nuts, at least be responsible enough to do the research first -- all you are doing right now is insulting yourself, and by extension, those of us who feel the same way as you do about religious nutbars.
Many people are perfectly willing to have sex with goats, sheep, cows ,mares, all manner of monkeys, primates even children of various ages and sexes without the aid of any goggles; our veneer of civilization is much thinner than most of us would like to admit. To think that human evolution didn't include genetic inputs from what ever was available is really egotistical, after all we have something like 30 copies of genes for reverse transcriptase, a retro-virus enzyme.
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Not clear on what you mean with the second sentence.
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trace their ancestry to Neanderthals been already established?
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Is my wife one of the pre-humanoid pussy's? To me she is beautiful, has a wonderful personality and body, and is the mother of three great kids. Perhaps I am the pre-humanoid and she is the human.
I love her just the same either way, and I am fortunate enough to say if I could do it again, I would marry her again.
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