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courteaudotbiz writes "For years, a business named Compu-Finder has been sending spam all around the province of Quebec, Canada. In their emails, there is a phone number where we can reach them, and an unsubscribe link that you can click and seems to work, but even after asking them on the phone, by email or with their unsubscribe link, to unsubscribe me, I still receive 10 — 15 spams a week coming from this company. Many bloggers, journalists and radio chroniclers talked about them, but they seem to be untouchable. Still, it is easy to find the names, addresses and phone numbers of the shareholders and administrators of the company. How can we, collectively, take action to make them understand that we do not like their mass mailing practice?"
Document it thoroughly and submit a report to the authorities. If that doesn't work, go to their offices and switch off the main power panel a few times until they get the hint.
The determined Real Programmer can write Fortran programs in any language.
How can we, collectively, take action to make them understand that we do not like their mass mailing practice?
Are you under the impression that spam continues because people think we like it? That if they only understood how much we don't like it, they would stop?
Secession is the right of all sentient beings.
Usually having a phone number is great!... for the spammers. It now gives them another reference for you and more info to sell and abuse. as for unsubscribing, well, that just shows them that a live human actually is at that address and reading email from spammers.. Goldstrike if you called and unsubscribed.
"Computers are a lot like Air Conditioners" "They both work great until you start opening Windows"
with pitchforks and torches
Really, it's the only way to get through to some people.
"Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
Add a entry in your mail server to drop everything from their netblock. Better yet, block them at your DNS, too.
[RIAA] says its concern is artists. That's true, in just the sense that a cattle rancher is concerned about its cattle.
Subscribe their phone and their email to another very spammy website. The more goastier, the better.
Publicise the names and personal details of their CEO and board of directors.
Subscribe their email addresses to every spam product and service you can find.
Have you considered contacting your ISP and asking them to filter that sender domain?
[Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
I can speak on this company from a first hand account. I work for an ESP, I actually manage all our mail servers and work closely with ISPs and mail vendors to help out GOOD CLIENTS. I say this because Compu-Finder (although they have an official name that is different) was a client of ours. They were a BAD-CLIENT. We have many tools that are in place to help our clients ensure that best practices are followed as well as easily available to contacts of the client, e.g opt-outs and suppressing those contacts from future emails. Compu-Finder did everything they could to get around built in mechanisms to keep "contacts" subscribed. Well Finally after battling with them on changing their practices we finally fired them. They are the kind of company that makes me cringe because I know there are real, legitimate, marketers out there that do use email to engage clients and keep them up-to-date but they are the ones that make it bad for any sender.
Have you considered taking them to court?
Or you could just filter or even tarpit their mail servers and forget about it. If you use free webmail just click the spam button on each mail and sooner or later they will get blocked.
I think there are a few companies like that. I get constant spam from a bunch of jokers calling themselves clubline football.
Wrong "we'.
Naturally, you want to use the CAN-SPAM act, and send it to spam@uce.gov.
Oh, wait, you wanted something effective, didn't you?
If you want to fight spam effectively you need to focus on the prime motivation behind spam - money. Spam is sent out because people make money sending it out. Ordinarily spam is sent out by a company other than the spamvertised company, which gives you a few more avenues to explore. There are, however, a few things you can still look into.
First, who is the registrar behind the domain? Most registrars have AUP's that prohibit spamming from domains they sell. You can try to report the spam to that registrar and if they are truly vigilant about spam they could essentially de-register the domain from its address, which would prevent all return traffic to it. No email, no web, no anything else going to their domain. The registrar would still have the rights to the domain, hence the customer (your spammer) wouldn't be able to do anything with their established domain until they clear up the situation with the registrar.
Of course, most registrars are in on the take and won't take such action. Your next option is the hosting company (or ISP if they are hosting their own website). Contact them about it as well, most hosting providers and ISPs frown heavily on their traffic being used for spamming or for spamvertised sites. Same thing could happen here; their domain could become unreachable. Only downside of this avenue versus getting the registrar to do it is it wouldn't take nearly as long for the spammer to get their domain back up afterwards.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
cosumer rights here are shit. Get some signs, friends and park your ass at their door. Piitch forks could be used if not enough sings are available.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
Small claims courts are easier if you're a local. There's no way I could sue them, but you could.
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
... shutting down all domains that have a non-responsive/non-working abuse@ handler in their whois?
I'm tired of Korean/Chinese/Pakistanese/South America spam sources these days. Is there a way to get a rather complete list of IP blocks per country?
I do not have business with these countries, the net impact on my activities would be close to 0.
Just block their domain and get on with your life. If you value your time at, say, $20/hr, how much are you willing to spend in order to get nothing in return?
When you have nothing left to burn you must set yourself on fire
I heard on IRC that they use pirated software to spam, although I have no first hand knowledge or documentation. Are there not paramilitary heavily armed SWAT team like organizations that break down doors, like we have in the land-of-the-unfree to your south?
Also CP is sold by spammers, and they are spammers, so they probably traffic in CP, correct? The legal system loves to bust CP distributors.
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
And those reports are promptly ignored by almost everyone that receives them, and here's why: of the 1000 or so I've recevied at $dayjob over the past decade, exactly zero have had anything to do with me, my customers, or my servers. All it takes is some lowlife to mention a bunch of random sites in their spam to deluge abuse contacts with irrelevant reports.
If it works in theory, try something else in practice.
So which "something" should one "do[...] in real life rather than whinging on slashdot" in order to shut down an identified spammer?
I've had the issues as the original poster. So, about 6 years ago, when I was about to change email addresses anyway, I signed up for an account at Spamgourmet.com. I hoped that I would never need to worry about unsubscribing again.
It works perfectly. I place unique characters in every address that I give out online. The first 'n' messages to a particular address get forwarded to my main address. After that, they get eaten by spamgourmet. I have to manually increase the limit or designate an exclusive sender if I want more than the first 'n' messages to go through.
You can set 'n' to be anything from 1 to 20. I use 5 typically.
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There is a simple and SUPER fun way to combat this. Get the google toolbar with auto fill for forms, and sign up for every free thing on the market you can with their address. This was done to a spammer a couple years back in the US and I guess once your postal mail volume reaches a certain ammount they stop delivering it, and bill you if you dont pick it up. If 10000 people sign them up for 1000 deliveries of junk real mail, they might get the picture. Maybe....
dun dun duh.....
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
Right here.
I got a call from a telemarketer on my cell phone at 3AM one day. I called the number back and found that it was a standard voice/prompt setup. I randomly dialed buttons until I got to a dial by extension choice. I then dialed every extension I could think of, leaving voicemails on every line, stating that the next time I get called on my cell phone at 3AM I would sue the company out of existence. Where I live the law is on my side on this, it is illegal to call before 9AM or after 7PM here. It must have gotten through to one of the people I left a voicemail for, because they never called again. Harass them more than they harassed you by wasting their time, and they'll find a way to stay out of contact with you.
And never, ever, ever click unsubscribe from anyone but the most reputable companies. It lets the spammers know that someone at that address actually reads those emails, and they don't mind sharing it with their sister companies.
Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don't know because we don't want to know. --Aldous Huxley
Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is usually crucified.
I had a similar issue with a company that makes industrial plasma etching equipment. After eight months of trying to get off their mailing list I was able to find the CEO's personal phone extension, and started left him a choice voicemail. I got a phone apology each from their PR and marketing heads within the hour, and haven't heard from them since. This may not work if the whole company is in on it though.
Has Spamhaus never heard of these people? How about other spam blockers? If you ISP isn't subscribing to blocklists then maybe your issue is with them.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Within a week after I had been contacted by one drug spammer that I sued, my spam load went down by 50%.
Another Spammer I sued, put in place a strong anti-spam policy and apparently quite effective.
When I went after Avtech Direct (Arlene Sediqzad and Gary Hunziker ) for spamming, I also helped arrange 21 lawsuits against them. After this was over, Sediqzad told me she wish she never heard of e-mail, and had not heard of it until Gary Hunziker got her into using it. Another spammer, Robert Smoley, stopped, only because he was charged, pled guilty, and sentenced to 40 months. They also seized over $40M of money and property from him. I think that is one of my most productive 45 minute phone calls with an IRS agent ever.
But this company you talk to is like Smoley, or Ralsky who needs to be sued multiple times or imprisoned for a while before they stop spamming.
Fight Spammers!
These are the laws that can be used currently in Canada.
Theft of a Telecommunication Service (Section 326)
(1) Every one commits theft who fraudulently, maliciously, or without colour of right,
(a) abstracts, consumes or uses electricity or gas or causes it to be wasted or diverted; or
(b) uses any telecommunication facility or obtains any telecommunication service.
Definition of “telecommunication”
(2) In this section and section 327, “telecommunication” means any transmission, emission or reception of signs, signals, writing, images or sounds or intelligence
of any nature by wire, radio, visual or other electromagnetic system.
Mischief (Section 430 (1)(c) and Section 430(1)(d))
(1) Every one commits mischief who wilfully
(c) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property; or
(d) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with any person in the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property.
Mischief in relation to data (Section 430 (1.1)(c))
(1.1) Every one commits mischief who wilfully
(c) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with the lawful use of data; or
(d) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with any person in the lawful use of data or denies access to data to any person who is entitled to access thereto.
Make sure every Spammer and their dog knows their business email address. And keep an eye open for changes to follow suit.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Then the harassment will stop.
We need a few examples made.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Or, even better, if you can get their fax number how about full-color Goatse in the mail or by fax? By email too, but Goatse coming out of a fax machine seems like it would be a nice gift to send them.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
This relies on them even caring, the return address being even vaguely valid and them actually bothering to do more than just redirect incoming mail to /dev/null, let alone bothering to have someone on the payroll who will read emails from people they've spammed.
No!
Do not break the law to end this. Stay within the law, there's plenty of legal options at your disposal to make their business truly miserable.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I read about someone who responded to them with a carefully written contract, saying that they have the email address for business purposes, and by emailing him at that address, they were entering into a business relationship with him. In doing so, they were liable for his billing purposes, and that every email would be billed at his normal billing, in hour increments.
And that continuing to email him was considered an agreement of terms. And ask them to kindly provide their billing address.... and legal service address.
So, 15 of those spam - surely you value yourself at $60 or $100US/hr, if it's consulting on your own time - should be worth a pleasant $900 or $1500US/week for you.
mark
The reasonable thing to do is just block everything from their domain or that includes their name.
However that's no fun. What is fun is whipping up a python script and using a service like Tropo to respond to every single message with a phone call to tell them that the email is unwanted. Of course, to ensure that they can effectively identify the offending mail, the script should read it to them in it's entirety and ask them to press a button to acknowledge that they've understood and will stop. If the call gets... disconnected for any reason, it should call back and start over until it gets it's acknowledgement.
What does this button d$#%* NO CARRIER
1. Get them reported on spamhaus.
2. Find out their ISP, find their spam policy and file a complaint. Getting their internet service shut off due to spam will get their attention much quicker than an email, phone call, letter, or firebomb.
End Transmission....
It rhymes with "shmashmit shmurder".
You can report them to the state attorney general. I've heard of auto-dialer companies that were shut down recently by the attorney general's office.
One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
The legislation hasn't been passed yet, but it's on the table.
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
....but I've never been above some good ole DDoS.
/b/ not /.
I had the same problem with some of those "product news" type emails. What I do is go to their website and get their sales email, send a test email to it, just to check for auto responders. Then, create a forwarding rule to forward all their email they send me, to their sales department email (making sure to exclude any auto responders) and delete the original email. Gives you a warm feeling.
We are the people our parents warned us about.
Won't work... Read up on Joe Job. My father has been Joe Jobbed when he retired and had too much time on his hands and started fighting SPAM. It wasn't pretty.
Ahhh...the great dumpster continuum. Many a free computer will be found there. -- sowth (748135)
Although that does sound like an effective way to fight spammers you'll have to do it anonymously since they could charge you with spamming.
That does actually sounds like it would be very effective. Just be sure not to trip any anti-spam filters with your randomized text, perhaps instead of random you'll want to do some combination of words that they would not want to filter such as "Where do you want me to send my credit card information?" or "I will gladly help you smuggle your money out of your country.", stuff that if they filtered it, it would also filter out any one stupid enough to legitimately respond.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
Here's a link to an informational website about the Government of Canada's new anti-spam legislation.
I'm going to the casino. Don't gamble.
Sue them! That's the American way! Or do Le Québécois not think they are in North America?
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
I do not recommend posting their mailbox address on Slashdot. And if someone were to do so, I do not recommend subscribing their office to all sorts of catalogs and junk mail subscriptions. That would be irresponsible!
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At first glance we see this is the personally efficient way to handle the situation. Block their mail and move on. But then we might wonder if we're being a little selfish, not engaging our computer skills to help out others, the many others who are negatively affected by this spam. A little altruism is generally recognized as a noble thing...
This could lead us to thinking about the systems that have been developed for reporting spam, how individuals have been empowered to spend little effort in reporting, and how, when summed, that individually trivial effort, of thousands and thousands of people, collectively makes powerful anti-spam effect.
Then maybe we complete the circle, realizing that we are the beneficiaries of these powerful anti-spam systems, that our time is greatly saved by these systems, and that we are not just being altruistic in our contributions, we are helping ourselves.
The personally efficient way to handle many things is this way, being helpful to the larger community that you are by nature a member of, and personally capitalizing on the beneficial effects of the economies of scale and other mass dynamics/synergistic effects.
This is where selfishness meets altruism. So, why not help others, when you are really helping yourself?
Maybe it's the latter. I know that computer-illiterate grannies and total morons buy stuff from spam ads (basically the 419 victim crowd), but I can't imagine the number of them is great enough to make any significant profit for the businesses that advertise through spamming. The act of spamming itself I know is profitable, no question about that...
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Next time you send them an email or letter, be sure to CC your Attorney General.
Software sucks. Open Source sucks less.
precision orbital strike come to mind... but in all seriousness, as i work at a hosting company, just give theirs a call and detail the problem.
heres a little snip from the mx for the domain...
220-crescent.web-dns1.com ESMTP Exim 4.69 #1 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:15:43 -0500
220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited,
220 and/or bulk e-mail.
Good people go to bed earlier.
I wondered about the efficacy of SpamCop's facilitated reporting to abuse operators.
The other side of this coin, however, is that SpamCop themselves learn more about the reported emails/systems, and they run a DNSBL which could pick up those systems.
Analogous to large ESPs offering "delete spam" actions that teach their systems what's spam.
I'd suggest spamming their office, this time with paper ads (a few metric tons of them). Contact as many affected people as possible and tell them to gather paper ads for a few months. Wait until you have a few thousand people each with a few kilos of paper spam and then do a coordinated drop-and-run delivery on their front yard.
to all of the contact emails you have for the company. When they call you to complain, tell them it's their own system.
We are the 198 proof..
Maybe they don't understand. But their clients will. Known Spammer like compu.finder prides themselves with a "our clients'" page. Just don't do business with companies on this page and let them know why.
Flag as spam? Seriously, it's not like I bother looking through my spam folder, and gmail has a pretty good filter.
Nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
What percentage of spam do you think is Joe Job spam? A percent? Less than one percent?
Also as I said in my reply to the parent you want to do this as anonymously as possible. One reason is so that the spammer can't report you for spamming, the other reason is so it is harder to filter out the anti-spam spam. I didn't know about Joe Job'ing but that just adds one more reason to make sure you do this anonymously.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
Problem solved.
Give a list of their IP's and contact information to Spamhaus http://www.spamhaus.org/. If it's bad enough they will hold the ISP's IP's hostage until they get rid of the customer. If they decide not to stop, they could contend for a spot on their "ROKSO". It still won't stop them, but it will at least cost them time and money to get new servers and ips. Also send samples of the emails you receive to their ISP's abuse department. If nothing else you'll make them unhappy for awhile.
Instead of using their personal email addresses to sign up for spam, just use spam-trap emails to sign up for their own crap. If that doesn't put them on the radar, you could always resort to weeping in a dark corner somewhere.
They will always find some new way to send junk, and spamhaus doesn't usually affect the "big" email providers, they just scare ISP's into kicking people off their network.
If you know who they are, block them and be done with it. Also, don't shop there.
They don't grade fathers, but if your daughter's a stripper, you fucked up. --Chris Rock
What I think would be nice, is if you could blacklist specific senders at the level of your mail server such that when any message arrives from that address or domain, it automatically sends back a bounce message, as if the intended recipient doesn't exist. The spammer wouldn't have any way of knowing if the bounce message was legitimate or not, and would have to choose between continuing to send spam to addresses that may or may not actually exist, or remove that address from their list.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
In order to keep the spam out of my in box I would be willing to have to pay for each email I send and also have the spammers do the same; say 4 or 5 cents each to: address. It seems to me that spam would no longer be as profitable and would be greatly reduced by stopping those that are getting one hit per million. The problem is who should get the money? Not the ISPs, definitely not governments. Maybe set up some sort of corporation that would fund the set up of mail relays that check for some sort of prepaid encrypted "reciept" attached to every email and just drop any without it, Have the corporation go after the few spammers left that were willing to pay by refusing to sell them any more email. Then maybe the corporation could use the money to give grants for open source project development or maybe inovation awards kind of like a techie nobel prize. Whatever we can come up with that would contribute to the common good within the computing / networking world.
I once had a "reputable" company doing that to me (unsubscribe did not work, phone calls, etc.). So, I found e-mail address for about fifteen higher ups in the company, and set up a filter that would auto-forward anything I got from their domain them to all fifteen of them (with "Please unsubscribe me" added). Their e-mail was then automatically deleted. It must have worked, because a couple of years later I changed e-mail systems, and I've never had to recreate that filter.
Blacklist 69.61.81.116 stille@dns-lamp:~$ dig mx compufc.com ;; ANSWER SECTION:
compufc.com. 14400 IN MX 0 compufc.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
compufc.com. 14400 IN A 69.61.81.116
Though their mailserver isn't located in Quebec:
stille@dns-lamp:~$ whois 69.61.81.116
Cyber Wurx LLC NET-GLOBAL-COMPASS (NET-69-61-0-0-1) 69.61.0.0 - 69.61.127.255
TIP Networks Inc TRUSTED-IP-NETWORKS-69-61-81-0-24 (NET-69-61-81-0-1) 69.61.81.0 - 69.61.81.255
Well, looks as though yellowpages.com has this address for them:
http://www.yellowpages.com/beaverton-or/mip/tip-networks-inc-464616168
14525 SW Millikan #56056 Beaverton, OR 97005
(866) 365-6442
Yellow pages links us to this URL, which has the same address as TIP Networks:
http://www.idologic.com/
Looking thru their page, there is a link for abuse:
http://www.idologic.com/contact.php
abuse@idologic.com
How about if Everyone here sends them an email about it?
All this is public information.... using dig, whois, standard net searches etc.
Enjoy :)
Send them back a certified letter to the mailing address of the company containing a contract offering to read their e-mails for $50 per e-mail. In your letter indicate that in order to agree to the services, they need do nothing more than send you an e-mail to be read. once you receive the e-mail, start sending invoices. if they don't pay, take them to court and file a bad debt report with the credit agencies.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
TFA is from Feb 2010.
Now, I can understand whining, but why people like to go around whinging their genitals online I just do not get. ... see the difference? Also, get your ass back to 4chan, that speak isn't welcome here.
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
Well, I'd say whining would be a much better start than whinging, but that's just me.
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
The Joe Job article linked to backscatter, that was the actual term I was looking for.
Ahhh...the great dumpster continuum. Many a free computer will be found there. -- sowth (748135)
Call the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
I am working on a patent for a special product just for this purpose. It is a blend of Polyurethane and feces packaged tightly into your typical courier parcel. When the receiver cuts through the thick outer packaging tape it will be virtually impossible to avoid perforating the interior bag of contents. With only the slightest nick the contents begin to expand as it makes contact with air, forcing the rest of the bag to open further, which exposes more air to the contents, thus forcing almost all of the contents to expand rapidly to a size several times larger than the parcel it arrived in.
Even if the person opening the package drops the box and jumps back quickly, in all likelihood the area where the box lands will be a complete mess. And if we're lucky this will include their mouse and keyboard.
If you have a moral conviction against sending poo in the mail then maybe you could ship them a boxed hive of Africanized bees.
Good question. Nowadays, there isn't a tv show in prime time that doesn't imply (if not show, obscured by blanket) a man eating pussy. And to think that in 1990, Uncle Buck (the tv show) was controversial for the line "Miles, you suck!". And now with Glee showing man-on-man kissing, it's only a matter of time until anilingus, shrimping, playing the rusty trombone, etc are a staple of the Thursday night boob tube schedule. [Side note - Oz showed surprise butt-sex in the late 90s, but that was on HBO which is a few years ahead of the curve].
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
Believe it or not I actually got spamming spam once (spam advertising a spam-generating company). Their offer was something like 200,000 e-mails for $10-$20. That means if you only have a $1 profit from each sale, you only need 1 response out of every ten to twenty THOUSAND messages. Definitely profitable.
Get everyone (including these media guys saying bad things about them) to write letters/emails to the company saying "unless you stop sending the SPAM, we will boycott your company"
Of course that assumes the company is the kind of company where a boycott would actually work.
I once had a similar problem; endless spam coming from a trying-to-be-legitimate business despite numerous requests for them to stop it.
Ultimately I emailed every administrative contact I could find for the company with something along the lines of:
"Thank you for trying the Robot Monster Unsolicited Email Processing Service.
While your first email is processed for free, any additional emails are processed at a fee of $1000.
A 10% discount is available if payment is received prior to the email.
Any additional emails sent to this email address will be interpretted as an acceptance of these charges."
I was kinda disappointed I never heard from them again -- was looking forward to sending them invoices.
Whenever someone is doing something you don't like, the most effective method of getting them to stop is usually the same...lawyer up. This is especially true when whatever they are doing is illegal or legally questionable. People tend to do what they think they can get away with. If you suddenly make them think they're about to get sued and incur a lot of costs, they will probably take you off their lists.
Send them an email, carboned to every email address for everybody in the company you can find. That email says something along the lines of:
I am getting a large amount of spam emails from your company. I have tried normal channels to get them to stop, but they have actually gotten worse. I am appealing to you to put a halt to these emails. I will forward you examples of the emails I have received.
Then set up an auto-forward rule that forwards every single spam to that same list, with the text:
Here is an example of the spam I am receiving from your company. As I acquire more examples, I will forward them on as well.
I bet they'll stop in a few days.
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...I'm going to cut the chase here. KILLS ZEM ALL!!!!!! man, this is a tough room.
Check your spam folder for the services of professional killers, and have one of them take care of that company's management.
cpghost at Cordula's Web.
Yeah, and Al Capone was not a gangster, he just cheated on his taxes.
Fight Spammers!
Not sure it is relevant, but shouldn't it go through the Commission d'accès à l'information [0]? They seem to be in a position to be dealing with these types of repeat spam-offenders.
[0] http://www.cai.gouv.qc.ca/
the thievesguild manual of citizen survival clearly states you can only rat on paedophiles, rapists and sociopaths who kill for personal pleasure or cos they cant get it up otherwise, any other case it's done at own risk (its been a while since i read the manual tho might have been adapted but i guess not)
Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?