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What the iPad 3 Looks Like
redletterdave writes "If you were expecting a radically different-looking tablet from the iPad 2, prepare for a minor letdown. In the same way Apple upgraded the iPhone 4 into the iPhone 4S, the exterior of the iPad 3 mirrors that of the iPad 2, despite completely renovated and upgraded innards. iLab Factory reportedly provided Sharp with the necessary parts to build the high-resolution iPad 3 display, and in a company blog post, various iPad 3 components are displayed alongside those of the iPad 2 for quick comparison. In addition to a new camera mount that will reportedly match or improve upon the 8-megapixel camera system in the iPhone 4S, the post also revealed that the iPad 3 will be approximately 1 mm thicker than its predecessor to house Apple's upgraded components, including a bigger battery, an improved camera, and a dual-LED lit system to make the 2048 x 1536 display even brighter."
It looks the same? Then surely it will be as big a "disappointment" as the iPhone 4S was according to analysts--which went on to sell 37 million last quarter. In all seriousness, while the so-called Retina Display is the thing I'm most looking forward to (especially for reading text), the most interesting rumor is that the iPad 2 will continue to be sold at $200 to compete with the Kindle Fire. While the iPad is still the most dominant tablet, the Kindle Fire had a decent run over the holidays. By selling the iPad 2 at a cheaper price alongside the iPad 3, Apple will have both the high end and low end covered. This is the same strategy they're using with the iPhone 3GS (in fact, it's often free with contract), which helped Apple close the gap with Android's marketshare in December.
The next few years are going to be really fun to watch as companies fight over this new market. I think it's inevitable that phones and tablets will become the primary computing devices for most users in a matter of years, because they let people do the things that they use PCs for--Facebook, YouTube, email--without the hassle of PC maintenance. Tablets are already outselling the desktop PC market. Some people don't like "appliance computing", but having grown up with handheld consoles, I see appliance computing as a natural evolution and something to look forward to. PCs will still be around for those who need them.
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That's a larger resolution than my current desktop.
Even though I have no need for it, I feel a strange compulsion to throw money at it.
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Apple has a big hard on "protecting" its ingenious design of a rounded rectangle with a flat surface and glossy paint, you really think they are going to waste all that time and money keeping the evil of the world from copying their earth-shattering genius just to release v3 in a translucent round case?
Why have we grown so accustomed to the style changing radically every new release? Not just apple, but any phone, or gadget, or car... Why do we feel this need to see a new fancy box?
Seems like once we arrive at the thinnest tablets, it will be the ultimate "form follows function": a flat panel. Will we then no longer expect a radical new shape? (circular tablets?)
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Maybe they could sue themselves over it.
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Will it be 4G or 3G?
3G = who cares.
4G = needs a nuclear reactor for 5 hours of battery life.
There is no clear win.
It works. People like it. Redesigns are expensive.
Apple is carefully leaking information to dilute the new tablets that are going to be presented in the Mobile World Congress 2012 just in a few days. Samsung is rumored to present there a tablet with high resolution like the iPad3 and Apple might not catch up in time, and it seems that they are leaking this and announcing a bit afterwards...
I bought an ipad 1 right when it came out, because it was exactly what I had been waiting for, a large screen web surfing/media consumption device. The question is, how is apple going to get me to upgrade it? Sure the ipad 3 will load web pages faster, but I doubt itll be 500$ faster. It may run some applications better, but I just want to consume media. By designing a device that (at least for me) is just about media consumption, the only way I can be driven to upgrade is by some form of media coming out that my ipad cant handle.
Anyone who has ever written iOS software knows that the UI scaling is done by float, and can easily take a value of 1.5.
It can technically be done, but results will look like crap, because scaling of bitmaps does not look well if you don't use an integer factor - either you get some pixels larger than other, or you need to use interpolation, resulting in an altogether blurry picture. There's a reason why Apple did 2x upscale with iPhone 4, rather than going for the then industry-standard-already 480x800.
Besides, from TFA, it looks like they have already identified the specific LCD screen that looks like it's tailor made for iPad 3 in dimensional terms - and it's 2048x1536.
You must be new to that whole "Apple" thing. It will be available in stores when Apple CEO will come out and say "It's now available in stores".
Of actually knowing (or predicting) what and when the notoriously secretive Apple will release its next product. Swallow any claims not coming from 1 Infinite Loop with a Large Dose of skepticism.
Like it or not, Apple basically defined the tablet market, and their hardware + iOS ecosystem is incredibly profitable. Like it or not, Samsung is perceived as a major clone maker -- the 21st century equivalent of Compaq in the late 1980s.
If it happens, its about fucking time they get a decent resolution on it.
Seriously ppi took a big step back when everything went from CRT to LCD.
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Everyone knows that the 3rd party accessories market for iDevices are HUGE, and one reason is because Apple sells MILLIONs of devices out of very few form factors. If you've ever been shopping for any iPhone accessory (cases, car holder/radio kits) vs. a typical android phone, you'll see what I mean. Apple knows that being 'different' isn't the same as being 'good', and that changing the design and button placement of their iOS devices just to be 'new' isn't a good enough reason.
I'm guessing the iPad 3 looks kind of like a rectangle with rounded corners and a screen on one face?
iPad 2S.
Windows 95 made some huge GUI advances but ever since then when a new version of Windows comes out everyone seems to want it to look different.
same with ipad and iphone. it's like people want a new design every year. if the current one works aesthetically and technically what's the point?
2048 x 1536 display even brighter
Now, when can I get this resolution on a mainstream laptop (or atleast on one that costs less than $1200-1300
We don't expect change. Media is complaining because change == news. A redesign would of resulted in more page views than a spec bump.
No, you're talking about bitmap scaling which is not what is happening. When you create an iPhone 4 app you provide separate graphics at the new resolution. The same would be done here. UI elements are also native images for the resolution.
It is true that scaled apps from standard res would look less than stellar, but they already do.
As for them finding the specific LCD screen, you've clearly never paid attention to the lead-up to an apple product release.
The only thing that points to a 2x screen at all is the resources found in iOS5, but they've been there since before the 2 came out... didn't get a 2x screen then either.
That device (and I notice you had to look VERY hard pre-iPad to find something even sort of close) doesn't even have SYMMETRIC borders! They vary from 1-2".
Also it had all kinds of features along the front plate like speaker grills. Basically you were a mile away from anything like the iPad we have now.
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Perhaps you do. Apple users just want something that works. That's why Apple doesn't need to change designs between cycles and people still buy them anyway- because they are actually useful and people buy them for that more than for something they display for looks only.
What you say is true of cars and clothes, to give people some reason they might want a new car or new clothes.
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and this new iPad to be marketed with the word PRO and be priced higher than existing iPad2 models.
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They'll probably just buy the LCD's from Samsung
Indeed. Now some of these designs may actually be Apple prototypes; however, one can never really know if they are the final designs until Apple reveals their products. Remember some of these sites where the same ones suggesting consumers not to buy the iPad 2 because that the iPad 3 would come out in summer 2011. No, they meant fall. No, they meant the holiday season. Also the iPhone 5 released in the summer would definitely have a teardrop design. The iPhone 4S is exactly the same form as the 4? They meant the design is for the 5 which Apple will release in December. No, they meant January. No, they really mean February.
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you would be correct.
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No USB slots this time either, so if one wants to plug in a wireless modem or connect to a non-Apple USB printer, one is SOL? Great going. Wonder whether any Android tablets haven't yet figured out an opportunity there?
I, for one, am thrilled that they're keeping the form factor, and practically elated that it's going to be closer in thickness to the iPad1.
I say maybe, because I stood ready to drop a grand on the iPad2 on launch day (including accessories), and decided not to pull the trigger and got the original, at about a $300 discount, a few days later. (okay, technically I got a 16GB Wifi for $300, realized that I needed mobile data to make it useful for work, and sold it on eBay for $350 so I could pick up a 64GB GSM version for $530, all of the course of about 3 weeks - but you get the point.)
The original is sluggish at times and using map applications is a bit underwhelming at 1024x768. And it turns out a camera would be useful in my line of work, too.
I guess it depends on what my old one is worth. For net $300, I'm all over the new one. For $500, it's going to have to have something special. Either way, I won't have to re-invest in any cases/holders/gear...unless they f-up the video out again. That will piss me off, mainly because it means I have to re-run the cable behind the dashboard. Maybe I'll pass again...
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Why mirror the design when just using the same design looks exactly the same?
The screen will probably be the biggest selling point of the device. That much resolution is going to be absolutely gorgeous.
Exactly! All Apple does is market to know-nothing hipsters with more money than sense and if all these people would just pay attention to what the smart people on Slashdot have to say they wouldn't be waisting all this money on useless tablet computers that can't even compile a basic python script or run a 3D CAD/CAM controller app.
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The OP said Apple defined the tablet not that they had the first ones. MS had Windows tablets long before Apple and Android. But MS' vision of a tablet was a more expensive version of laptop with a touchscreen and a stylus. Little was done to define a tablet as anything different. And these tablets failed to sell in any significant numbers. To this day, MS still declares tablets to be PCs whereas everyone else sees them in a separate category. According to that logic, that would give Apple the largest marketshare of PCs.
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No, you're talking about bitmap scaling which is not what is happening. When you create an iPhone 4 app you provide separate graphics at the new resolution. The same would be done here. UI elements are also native images for the resolution.
When you create a new app, or update one, sure. But it won't happen overnight; in the meantime, existing apps should be usable. iPhone 4 can still run apps created for iPhone 3 and below. And the reason why it can do that without them looking like crap is because it scales them up using an integer factor.
I'll tell you why. Because troll moderators have taken over the site and are trying to subvert it. Because the IT readership that used to visit Slashdot has been bleeding from the site in the last few years, leaving behind the more extremist posters. Because if you say something that those posters don't like, they abuse the moderation system to drive you off the site rather than reply and explain why you're wrong.
The latest thing is to accuse absolutely everyone of being a "shill" so that others will follow along and do their dirty work. My post didn't go down to -1 Flamebait until someone else accused me of being a shill and got modded +5 Insightful (!). Because of the default filters, +5 comments are automatically expanded while less than +2 is collapsed, so now every moderator reading the comments for the first time will see that post first and likely not even read what I wrote.
CmdrTaco promised a new moderation system for years, and it never arrived before he left the site. This limited moderation pool concept is terrible. It makes it so that a single point in either direction has a drastic effect on karma and effectively restricts people from posting something that's unpopular, even if it's legitimately true.
This is off-topic, and so I'd be justified in getting downmodded for this, but since my karma is getting completely destroyed right now anyway, I may as well post it before I'm limited to two posts a day. Thanks, Slashdot. Thanks, troll moderators.
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Let the sheeple throw their money at the new iPad 3. Personally, I will be waiting to see what novelties Samsung & Others bring to market.
This is why Apple gets the attention. You (and I) are still waiting to get a decent Android tablet, and Apple is selling the third generation of theirs. My wife & kids are loving their iPad/iPod Touches, while I'm fiddling with the old Droid I bought because I got fed up waiting for "Samsung & Others" to produce something I wanted to actually pay for.
Seriously, what would you tell someone who wanted a tablet within the next month to buy? I'd say wait until next month & get an iPad 3. If they wanted a Transformer they wouldn't be asking my advice, they'd have bought it.
continue (to be sold at $200) != (continue to be sold) at $200
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I can very definitely attest that consumers would have loved it if the 4S looked slightly different than the 4.
I don't disagree with that at all. As you say; human nature.
But note what happened; even though it looked no different a LOT of people still bought them.
If Apple cared at all about fashion, they would have made it look different just to make it look different.
If, to the users, how an Apple product LOOKED were more important than how it WORKED, they would have passed on the 4s. But instead as noted sales were huge.
Thus proving that Apple devices really are about function more than form, even though form is a factor and does matter to people.
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The world must be a really confusing place for you, if you actually believe that drivel. And it must be terrifying to see more and more "iSheep", these inferior beings who are sucked in by slick advertising and mindlessly buy crappy products.
On the bright side, with those remarkable powers of self-delusion and reality denial, plus a superiority complex, you may have a promising career in politics.
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To say that all Apple users are some magical class of people devoid of any desire to visibly demonstrate status is pretty damn laughable.
I was not wholly clear when I wrote my point. I am not saying what you think I am saying.
Yes people have an innate desire to visibly display status, I'm not denying that.
What I am saying is that DESPITE that, people still will buy Apple products. For any given person you know that the way an Apple product WORKS is more important than how it LOOKS if they upgrade between two devices that LOOK identical - 4 to 4s. And tens of millions have done so.
From Apple's side, if LOOKS were more important they, like so many other companies, would have introduced some superficial change so people could tell it was different. They did not, therefore proving that for Apple as long as a product is already well designed there is no reason to alter a design simply for the sake of making changes. For Apple there must be a reason beyond mere fashion for a good design to be altered.
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Apple's lawyers are so scary they're afraid of infringing against themselves.
So it's brown and tetrahedral.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
It can technically be done, but results will look like crap, because scaling of bitmaps does not look well if you don't use an integer factor
Why do you assume they are using bitmaps? In this day and age everything from icons to fonts should be vector.
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Why do you assume they are using bitmaps? In this day and age everything from icons to fonts should be vector.
Yeah, well, it plainly ain't so on Apple platforms - no need to assume anything.
Heck, they still use absolute units for UI layout, last I checked (those can be scaled, like dialog units on Win32, but only uniformly - no flexible layouts, only anchors). And neither OS X nor iOS still have any supported way to override DPI to set it to something other than Jobs intended it to be - as I discovered to my dismay after hooking up Mac Mini to my TV, and wanted to scale UI up a bit. That should tell you all you need to know about why people are mostly using bitmaps in OS X and iOS apps.
the most interesting rumor is that the iPad 2 will continue to be sold at $200 to compete with the Kindle Fire. While the iPad is still the most dominant tablet, the Kindle Fire had a decent run over the holidays.
You should stop thinking rumor somehow equals reality. $200 is less than the iPad2 costs to build.
iPad 2 will drop $100, and continue until stocks run out, then it will be officially discontinued. Exactly the same thing that happened with iPad 1.
An iPad has only the single button on front, that has several features on the front plate, and totally different materials/edging, etc.
The Samsung tablet in question looks nearly as identical as it is possible to look given no constraints in copying.
Note that Apple is not suing OTHER tablet makers. They would not sue that one either.
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I would say there's still not a "need" to upgrade from the first iPad for the iPad 3.
I plan on getting one because I do a lot of photography and the higher resolution screen will be really nice for a portable portfolio.
Apple doesn't really care if you upgrade devices or not, they are more about simply expanding the market and doing product updates often enough that the devices stay ahead of the market in capability. At some point it may well make sense for you to buy a newer model, at that time Apple will have revved the iPad a few times and it will make for a pleasant upgrade.
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Like it or not Tablets running Android were out before the iPad.
Samsung released a little 7" tablet running Android 2.2 about five months after the iPad. The first commercial hardware running a Tablet version of Android was the Motorola Xoom, released 10 months after the iPad. Prior to that, there were a few utterly forgettable Android tablets from Archos, Dell and MSI. Apple's brand recognition, marketing clout, industrial design and the App Store helped to build a market segment that no one else had been able to crack. I'm not an Apple fanboi, but the products released by Steve and his minions forced other companies to play catch-up. Without the iPad, my non-Apple tablet and non-Apple smartphone would not exist in the form they do now.
If it weren't for the labels on the pictures, i wouldn't be able to tell which is 2 and which is 3, or hell, if one of them was even an iPad 1.
What do I know, I'm just an idiot, right?
...the post also revealed that the iPad 3 will be approximately 1 mm thicker than its predecessor to house Apple's upgraded components
They'd never have got that one past Steve.
You, in the mind of most people who have been exposed to your silly bigotry, consider you ripe for extinction.
Really, who the hell cares what you think of the market position of Apple products? Millions of people like them, including many developers and engineers. You know... people who have a job to do with computers and want quality hardware to do it with. Apple products are reasonably priced, in the main. Most are comparable to the closest competition. Samsung has yet to innovate, so I'd guess you're going to be waiting for a very long time. Please do us a favor and hold your breath in anticipation.
Pre-iPhone 4 apps look just fine on an iPhone 4, resolution doubled. There are quite a few of them now, and there were a LOT of them when the 4 first came out. Many developers don't bother including bitmaps for both the pre-4 and 4+.
You're thinking of the fat apps that contain both an iPhone and an iPad version. The iPhone versions do look crappy on the iPad, but it's because they're blown up so much in size, not because they're lower resolution being displayed on the same size screen.
Ok, I know this is about what the iPad 3 LOOKS like but has anyone heard any news about a (hopeful) storage upgrade?
My iPad has 64GB and I long, long ago ran out of room! I use the Seagate Satellite to provide 500GB of wireless storage for my media but it does not help for my Apps (1,000+).
Yes, I realize that Android tablets have removable storage but they don't have the worthwhile media centric Apps that I want. :(
I for one am a big advocate for higher resolutions. Though shame it will go to waste on games. My 8800 GTS 512 can't even handle that resolution. An iPad definitely won't. It will upscale, and that will look like crap, just like the consoles do it now on a 1080p TV. And that looks like crap too.
Shame that this resolution for games will go to waste for at least another few years.
Apple will make the new model white, or grey, or matte black, or give it a chrome bezel, or something.
I do wonder how much of that lack of defining a tablet as "anything different" was technological. Capacitive touch screens; powerful, energy-efficient consumer processors, advances in battery technology, etc. were important factors in determining the viability of both the iPhone and iPad. The fact that LG was the first to market with a capacitive touch screen smartphone speaks volumes to the direction the market was moving, with or without Apple. Apple did leverage their exceptional ability to make user interfaces for the masses to make the best (or at lease most polished) product to date, but I am not certain the market would not have moved in this direction even without Apple (although Apple may certainly have accelerated the evolution).
Not to nitpick, but HP sold about 62 million computers and 900,000 touchpads in 2011, Apple sold about 40 million ipads and about 17 million macs = 57 million units (close, but not quite).
I think the main problem with a Windows tablet was the overwhelming edict that everything must look and act like Windows thus MS never went beyond thinking about a different UI much less implementing one. One thing that would have changed was the stylus. It came about because MS had to replicate a mouse. Since some of the Windows UI elements might be too small to touch with fingers, they adapted a stylus. It seemed that changing all the UI elements to fit fingers was not explored because the it wouldn't be "Windows".
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"Spelling and grammar checked"?
You do realize that some of us can actually spell, as well as write with proper grammar, don't you? Not to mention that some of us also write HTML for a living, or as an adjunct to our living -- WYSIWYG tools aren't the only way to create HTML, CSS, CGI, etc.
Also, with regard to spelling, many systems provide inline spell checking capability.
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I guess this really comes down to how a tablet would have developed without Apple. Capacitive screen smartphones, and non-microsoft UI's, had already arrived. It does seem logical to expand that form factor if there is a market for it (as there is/was for tablet computers). The system that was to become Android (as well as several others) was already well under development (causing many problems between Sun and the Apache Foundation). I think Apple profoundly influenced the direction the market took, but it appears to me that all of the pieces were falling into place for a capacitive touchscreen tablet with or without Apple. Perhaps it is only a matter of semantics, but it seems to me that Apple shaped the market, but didn't necessarily create it.
Apple has a very successful product. You can't claim that it's all a "rabid fanbase" when they sold 15 million iPads in the first year, and 40 million in the second year. Heck, they sold more last quarter than they did in the first year.
I'm sure he meant "rabbit fanbase".
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My perspective is that others might have gotten there eventually but Apple sped up the development by example and shaped the market. It would be the same for smart phones. Smart phones existed before Apple, but before Apple everyone focused on business needs. Yes some companies put out consumer models but they were just business models slightly modified for consumer use. Apple's main focus was designing a smart phone for consumers first and this drove many of the design decisions. It's not rocket science that consumer technology must be as simple and polished to use as possible but many companies don't put as much emphasis on this instead of adding more features.
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I don't get it... There are x dozen tablet makers out there (Samsung/Android most notably), but each time the tiniest detail about iPhone/iPad "N" is leaked, there is a big bruhaha and Apple gets huuuuuge attention.
That's because its not just you, Samsung and the others also don't get it.
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I have been surfing the internet, playing media, buying stocks, etc. on my cell phone for over 10 years (although it was black and white text when I started). I don't really see any of this (iphone, android, etc) as particularly revolutionary. It seems to me like the natural evolution of the industry. I agree with you that Apple brought this technology to the masses (no condescension intended), but technologically, it doesn't seem surprising to me (the incredible profits Apple has generated from this is a surprise for me, however). It does seem to me like the current advances get undue credit, when both the ideas and technology have been incrementally evolving for decades.
Like it or not Tablets running Android were out before the iPad.... Apple didn't Invent anything they just have really good Advertising and a huge following of iSheep.
And nobody gave a shit until the iPad came along. Now you know why he said "defined the tablet market" instead of "invented the tablet".
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What I expect, actually, is to replace the battery with an ultracapacitor system, including an inductive charge transfer device, that obviates the whole battery thing completely, and moves the device into the "works until the hardware breaks" domain, and removes the need for a cable completely. Tech changes. Ultracaps are coming. This whole battery thing... flash in the pan. :)
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1. ..and if they defined it, they have no right to whine about others following said definition. like ford developing cars with four wheels and then suing a competitor because his car has four as well.
2. what does apple profitability have to do with this issue?
3. perception is not reality, though it is one of the subjective feelgoodisms that've taken over in the last decade or so at least. the others include, consensus, feelings, and 'equality.'
Besides bragging rights, what was the real difference, to actual users, between the 4 and the 4s?
I personally did not upgrade. But the pull of the thing is Siri, because I sometimes have to respond to text messages on the road and, hey future.
Also the camera... the iPhone 4s camera is finally good enough I wouldn't care about having another compact camera (I have a DSLR for real photography). Plus it's very, very quick to activate.
Also of course it's faster blah blah blah, but those are less noticeable to real people since the 4 was pretty fast already. But those two reasons are enough to compel many people, indeed many people I know upgraded...
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..or maybe they want a new car because the old one is falling apart?
For 4 to 4s users that argument is silly. The 4 is still quite new, I have had one since launch and it works just as well as ever. What is there to "fall apart" on something that is all metal and glass with almost no buttons?
sorry but all three items (apple products, cars, and clothes) are fashion items first
If that were true Apple would have changed the 4s in some way just for the sake of making it look new. If that were true people would not have upgraded from the 4 to the 4s since there is no way externally to tell them apart at a glance, they just would have bought a new case... instead people upgraded in massive numbers.
Your argument simply makes no sense no matter how you look at it.
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I would really like to use a pen with a tablet. So far, only a few alternatives are available. The Galaxy Note is waaaaay to small - it should be at least 10" and comparable to current tablet models. There is the XOOM, but it is (afaik) not available right now.
Do you have any idea why most companies dont go for the additional input method? Constructive answers much appreciated.
and even when the iPad came out, most of the "experts" on slashdot and pundits elsewhere predicted it to be a huge failure.
It should be, but in this day and age if you want a scalable UI you need Android and not iOS. Sorry.