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Google+ Unblocked In China; President Obama's Page Flooded With Comments

An anonymous reader writes "Google+ has recently been unblocked in China and Chinese netizens have found their way to President Obama's G+ page. The result is that topic after topic has hit the limit of 500 comments, most of them in Chinese. Some express political views, but many are just everyday banter or showing off."

187 comments

  1. China unblocks Google+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    China unblocks Google+ Figures no one uses it anyway. Myspace is next to be unblocked.

    1. Re:China unblocks Google+ by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 5, Funny

      If the Chinese completely took down the Great Firewall, many other sites would start to howl in pain. Think how useless lots of corporate feedback pages would become (e.g. on Facebook). Consultants would make a fortune implementing anti-Chinese firewalls all over the place...

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    2. Re:China unblocks Google+ by Errtu76 · · Score: 2

      Hm, so actually what you're saying is that the Great Firewall of China is protecting us from the Chinese?

    3. Re:China unblocks Google+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      G+ has ~54mil daily users. Nothing to sneeze at, but still small compared to FB's 400+mil daily users.

    4. Re:China unblocks Google+ by Anthony+Mouse · · Score: 0

      I think the interesting thing is the demographics. Facebook was once the place to be because it started off as only college students, so everyone on there was respectable. Now G+ has got a bunch of professionals posting about software development and politics and Facebook is full of people's moms playing farmville.

    5. Re:China unblocks Google+ by biodata · · Score: 2

      >small compared to FB's 400+mil daily users. which is nothing compared with China's 1.3 billion people

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    6. Re:China unblocks Google+ by Canazza · · Score: 1

      Just like Hadrians wall protected the Romans from the Scots

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    7. Re:China unblocks Google+ by PDF · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fortunately, Slashdot lacks Unicode support, so we're already protected.

    8. Re:China unblocks Google+ by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

      The lameness filter already does it job. Lack of Unicode support is a pain when I need to quote something.

    9. Re:China unblocks Google+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so it's like that fateful day, September 1993 we let you lot on.

      Turnabout is fairplay.

    10. Re:China unblocks Google+ by exomondo · · Score: 2

      >small compared to FB's 400+mil daily users. which is nothing compared with China's 1.3 billion people

      G+ has about 13% of the number of users of FB, FB has about 30% of the number of Chinese citizens.

    11. Re:China unblocks Google+ by chrnb · · Score: 1

      This story smells like hyperbole, as G+ has actually been blocked on and off here in China since its inception. Probably Taiwanese or overseas Chinese spamming up Obama's shit. Even if it were true it's hardly news-worthy anyway.

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  2. Widespread interest by sdw · · Score: 5, Informative

    Interesting how much of the world is interested in our politics.
    Several years ago, I was walking around Porvoo, Finland, taking pictures. I talked to a few teenagers doing skateboard tricks. In their perfect English, they were very curious how we could have elected Bush II twice. It's all they wanted to talk about.

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    1. Re:Widespread interest by Kenja · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's more interesting is how little interest we have in our politics. At least, little interest in finding out for ourselves what's going on rather then blindly following our parties marching orders.

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      "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
    2. Re:Widespread interest by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The US now seems to treat politics like just another reality TV show.

    3. Re:Widespread interest by surgen · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are you trying to say ignorance of foreign issues and jingoism isn't a the best way to form opinions on international matters? You're such a communist.

    4. Re:Widespread interest by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's even more interesting, is how little interest our politicians have in us.

      As opposed to their own careers and their paymasters.

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    5. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      they were very curious how we could have elected Bush II twice

      Because the alternatives were Al Gore and John Kerry.

    6. Re:Widespread interest by apt142 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I blame this on only having two political parties. Since each party only really has one competitor, it boils down to us versus them rhetoric.

      With a viable third or fourth party, I think we'd see less "that party wants to eat your children" attacks and more stands on what they believe in. Because it's much harder to go on the attack against two or three opponents, the merits of a particular stance would have to take center stage or least get out of the back alley behind the concert where it's drinking it's cheap whiskey and crying itself to sleep.

      But, for that to happen we'd need to have less of a winner takes all approach to our election system.

    7. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, just like obama is likely to face a total loon this year.

      it's almost as if it was planned ^^

    8. Re:Widespread interest by tnk1 · · Score: 2

      As if the population in other countries don't actually make decisions in exactly the same way.

    9. Re:Widespread interest by Leafheart · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can only speak for me, but I wage that it helps to a lot of other Brazilians. Your politics reflect on ours.

      Recently, one of our center-right parties renamed themselves Democrats (yeah, you read right, center-right) and have tried to mirror the Democrats politics here. And even without taken them into considerations, a lot of politics and companies keep an eye on what is going on there to try to mirror it on national legislation. Thing about things like SOPA, had it passed, there would be a hard push to implement similar language here. So your politics directly influence ours indirectly. And also directly.

      Let's say for example that Grinch becomes president and he works on his campaign promise to invade Iran. Suddenly it is a new Middle East war and again we are thrown on the Iraq war cycle of problems on the international scales. So yeah, we need to pay lots of attentions to your politics.

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    10. Re:Widespread interest by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 2, Funny

      To a certain extent that's true. However, the US raises it to high art...

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    11. Re:Widespread interest by JimCanuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No mod points, so commenting, if anyone saw the debate yesterday you'd have realized how right Nerdfest is.

    12. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not that Americans have a lack of interest in our politics, its that they get bombarded with it so much and so often that they tune it out.

      Once you get out of that 24/7 news cycle, what information you DO get sounds fascinating and intriguing.

    13. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      On the other hand, few Europeans can place and name all 50 American states as well as their capitals, yet they somehow feel Americans should be able to do this for Europe. They don't realise that the pride they take in keeping track of what happens in Germany when they live in Spain is just like an American reading news about the state next over.

    14. Re:Widespread interest by divisionbyzero · · Score: 2

      Interesting how much of the world is interested in our politics.
      Several years ago, I was walking around Porvoo, Finland, taking pictures. I talked to a few teenagers doing skateboard tricks. In their perfect English, they were very curious how we could have elected Bush II twice. It's all they wanted to talk about.

      They were probably interested because it directly impacts them. It's something I think our politicians don't think about enough. If we decide to go start a few wars around the world we bring all of our allies with us whether they like it or not.

    15. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hi, UK here.

      We had a third party, the Liberal Democrats.

      It all kind of went downhill when they did the exact opposite of the thing that they explicitly said that would do. They pretty much do everything our highly unpopular Conservative Party tells them to. In doing so, they forfeit the tiny bit of credibility that fell to them mostly by default, after our previous highly unpopular Labour government departed.

    16. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What exactly are you impling?

    17. Re:Widespread interest by msobkow · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If your government and corporations didn't interfere with the rest of the world's nations, believe me, we wouldn't give a shit about American politics.

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    18. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When two people disagree, one at least one, and possibly both, are wrong. This is true in our politics as well- hopefully we don't elect the one that is almost certainly wrong.

    19. Re:Widespread interest by Charliemopps · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Did you point out that we're only give 2 choices every 4 years and those 2 choices are usually almost identical?

    20. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh i think I got a pretty good idea how right he is even without seeing the debate...

    21. Re:Widespread interest by Kenja · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, we care who wins reality TV shows. More people vote for American Idol then for their representatives.

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    22. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bush II

      I like to call him Bush the Lesser. Never really liked his father, but in retrospect Bush the Elder was a huge step up from monkey boy.

    23. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or how about we actually start talking about topics individually instead of having to claim we belong to one party or another (or another) which will paint a broad brush of what we should do in support of all topics.

      IE. Where does someone who supports gay rights, supports contraception and maybe early term abortion but not late term abortion, doesn't want to see tax rates raised but would like to see tax reform so that more people are paying taxes (and not finding loopholes), wants to give people a hand-up and not a hand-out, and many other topics, fit in?

      Answer is no where. Of course, I prefer to claim I'm Libertarian than either Democratic or Republican (or Liberal or Conservative for that matter) than continue to fall into the 2-party label system.

    24. Re:Widespread interest by Warhawke · · Score: 0

      The problem with adopting a multi-partisan system over a bipartisan system is that it's inherently undemocratic. A bipartisan system, while it presents an either/or scenario on issues, does have the advantage of the elected official being a representative of the majority of the people. If you had five parties running, the winner might win with 22% of the voting population's support, and then the 22% would be able to impose their political views on the remaining 78% because the 78% couldn't choose to back a single candidate. This is essentially what happened to the democratic party every time a green party candidate would run. A bipartisan system forces compromise for the sake of ensuring that a candidate represents, at least tenuously, the majority of the population.

      I am aware that the U.S.'s bipartisan system is a result of the winner-takes-all electorate system, that shifting to a party-proportional representation system would reduce the centric pressures of the winner-takes-all system, thereby preventing a tyranny of the majority that I mentioned above. However, party-proportional representation systems have their own flaws as well, particularly that of legislative gridlock and the problem of a "cacophony of voices," whereby the number of increasingly differing political opinions worsens the signal-to-noise ratio in the legislative system. Inevitably it boils down into an argument about the benefits/disadvantages of the Electoral College, which would derail the topic further; but I will point out that as "unrepresentative" as the indirect Electoral College may seem, true democracy, over a republic, has never lasted more than a few centuries, due to legislative gridlock and the tyranny of the majority.

    25. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are only 35 (give or take one or two, I can't count) states in America.

    26. Re:Widespread interest by muindaur · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Was there another final debate?

      After the final debate?

      That followed the final debate?

      That was really just childish bickering, pointing fingers, and attacks instead of an actual debate?

    27. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      European here: Try me. Your extrapolation from your state border is inadequate.

    28. Re:Widespread interest by theheadlessrabbit · · Score: 1

      Interesting how much of the world is interested in our politics.
      Several years ago, I was walking around Porvoo, Finland, taking pictures. I talked to a few teenagers doing skateboard tricks. In their perfect English, they were very curious how we could have elected Bush II twice. It's all they wanted to talk about.

      I thought Bush was only actually elected once, for his second term... (As a non-American, I can't complain about his presidency too much, as his decisions made my country's economy much stronger by comparison.)

      Same thing when I was living in South Korea. So much attention is paid to American politics. There were massive protests in the streets during August's protest season over some American policy.

      I find it odd how defensive Americans get when we talk about their politics. Just because you happen live in an isolated bubble where other countries don't exist doesn't mean the rest of the world lives like that. We are saturated with your news, movies, music, tv, radio, products, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if a good number of foreigners were more knowledgeable about American politics than many Americans are.

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    29. Re:Widespread interest by BillX · · Score: 2

      The difference being that on a reality show, even if you're not crazy about any of the contestants, voting for one and having them win is mostly harmless...

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    30. Re:Widespread interest by Edzilla2000 · · Score: 0

      No, actually, us Europeans would find it good enough if you US-Americans could name Europe on a map...

    31. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's... actually pretty much exactly the Democratic position, with the exception that they're somewhat more libertarian on abortion.

    32. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      In Finnish election system, when electing president, we have second round where we have the only two most voted candidates from first round.

      This year top 2 candidates got 37% and 19% of votes on the first round. On the second round they got 63% and 37%.

    33. Re:Widespread interest by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Seriously, it's a form of voyeurism for a lot of us non-Americans. How badly can you fuck things up this week? Tune in 24/7 for as much as you can read!

      The really scary thing is watching our own governments follow your mistakes after :(

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    34. Re:Widespread interest by MagicM · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you had five parties running, the winner might win with 22% of the voting population's support, and then the 22% would be able to impose their political views on the remaining 78%

      That is indeed what happens with "winner takes all". If instead the winner wins a 22% stake (say, 22 seats in a 100-seat house) then the result is representative of the electorate.

      So a multi-partisan system for Congress and the Senate would not have to be undemocratic at all. The Presidential election would, by your definition, but if the President is able to "impose their political views on the remaining 78%" then that's a flaw with the Presidential powers, not with the election process.

    35. Re:Widespread interest by therealobsideus · · Score: 5, Funny

      You guys are over near Japan, right?

    36. Re:Widespread interest by TheSunborn · · Score: 2

      What??????

      Here is how to solve that problem:
      First: don't let the people elect a president. The president/leader of the goverment should be elected by the parlement. Having the leader of a country which does have a majority of the parlement against him/he is such a problematic concept that it should just be stopped.

      Now to be the leader of the goverment, you need to form a coalision so you get at leats half the parlement not to vote against your goverment. So if the largest party get 22% of the votes, it need support from other parties in order go be the goverment. This mean that in the end you end up with a goverment and leader, which at least half of the parlement did not vote against. Seems fair to me.

      And that you are the largest party does not mean that you get to be part of the goverment. It is quite normal for some of the smaller parties to form a coalition, which together have more then 50% of the parlement.

    37. Re:Widespread interest by drawfour · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's called a run-off election. In most countries that have multiple parties, unless one candidate already got an absolute majority, there is a second election between the top two candidates, so that someone has to win by an absolute majority.

      It could easily be extended to more rounds, where the least popular candidate is eliminated in each voting round until there is an absolute majority for one candidate, but it's usually simpler to just take the top 2 winners and have one more election between them.

    38. Re:Widespread interest by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Name all EU countries? No. Name the major US allies and trading partners and their categories, yes. US states? Sure, any EU citizen can name all of the ones that are constitutionally allowed to define foreign policy on their own...

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    39. Re:Widespread interest by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Seriously? So far the Liberal Democrats, with about 30% of the popular vote and about 20% of the seats in Parliament have achieved about 70% of their manifesto pledges. And yet somehow the press lambasts them for not achieving everything. Meanwhile, no one complains at the number of election pledges that Tories have broken...

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    40. Re:Widespread interest by lexman098 · · Score: 1

      I don't know how you got +3. See drawfour's reply and down-mod this please. The last thing we need is someone who doesn't know what they're talking about convincing people that a 2 party system is the best available option.

    41. Re:Widespread interest by lexman098 · · Score: 1

      A run-off is the right solution, but you can do even better than that. We have an apathy problem in this country when it comes to getting out to the polls, so "instant" run-off would be even better. You just order the candidates by preference when you vote.

    42. Re:Widespread interest by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      On vacation in India I met 2 Norwegians and a Dutch guy that were on holiday from working in Dubai. (Oil). They were very interested as well. They were actually super freaked out about Palin being on the ballot (this was 2 weeks before the election). The best thing I could do was just talk about America, while they sort of understood US politics, they really didn't have any idea how non homogenous the US was in terms of everything. I also had to explain how large and spread out.

    43. Re:Widespread interest by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      I blame this on only having two political parties. Since each party only really has one competitor, it boils down to us versus them rhetoric.

      Kind of like our ISP situation, then?

    44. Re:Widespread interest by The+Lord+of+Chaos · · Score: 1

      I completely agree. I find two party systems encourage going negative. It doesn't matter how bad you make yourself look when attacking the other party, as long as you make them look worse.

    45. Re:Widespread interest by JSombra · · Score: 1

      Place Europe on a map? Aiming a bit high there for them i think, would settle for them recognising that Europe is not a country

    46. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having two major parties is the stable state emerging from our one-person-one-vote system. Scoring each candidate (kind of like Olympic judges do) would allow voters to "vote for" "third parties" without "throwing their vote away". It would require a little (more?) thinking on the part of the voters. See rangevoting.org.

    47. Re:Widespread interest by alonsoac · · Score: 0

      I'm from Central America and would be happy for people in the U.S. to realize America is the name of a continent which includes some other countries.

    48. Re:Widespread interest by alonsoac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Part of this is because of the influence the U.S. has on our countries. I guess we need to keep an eye always looking at you to know if you are planning to sign a free trade agreement with us, change the amount of monetary aid you send our way, pass some law that makes us outlaws, try to change our style of government or just bomb us. You have the power to change our lives maybe more than even we do.

    49. Re:Widespread interest by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Show me one other country in the world with the word "America" in its name and then you'll get some sympathy.

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    50. Re:Widespread interest by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      You're making the false assumption that in a bi-partisan system that everyone who votes for party "A" actually wants party "A" in office. The reality is that most people that vote party "A" simply don't want party "B" to be in office (lesser of two evils). With multi-partisan, the same number of people are actually *happy* about the outcome. The people that voted parties C through G are just as unhappy/relieved as when they were forced to vote for party "A" simply to keep party "B" out of office.

      * Replace "A", "B", etc with your preferred parties.

    51. Re:Widespread interest by SteveFoerster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In fairness, there are a number of eurocrats in Brussels, etc. who don't recognise this either.

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    52. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's a liberal lunatic who doesn't understand what a coalition is.

    53. Re:Widespread interest by kill-1 · · Score: 1

      Obligatory Youtube video

    54. Re:Widespread interest by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 0

      "In their perfect English, they were very curious how we could have elected Bush II twice. It's all they wanted to talk about."

      The answer to the riddle of course is that he wasn't elected, ever.

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    55. Re:Widespread interest by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      I am aware that the U.S.'s bipartisan system is a result of the winner-takes-all electorate system, that shifting to a party-proportional representation system would reduce the centric pressures of the winner-takes-all system, thereby preventing a tyranny of the majority that I mentioned above. However, party-proportional representation systems have their own flaws as well, particularly that of legislative gridlock and the problem of a "cacophony of voices," whereby the number of increasingly differing political opinions worsens the signal-to-noise ratio in the legislative system.

      But playing tricks with your electoral system does not change the fact that (free) human societies are a "cacophony of voices". A bipartisan system is basically an equivalent of deliberately ignoring it on the basis that it's inconvenient; but ignoring inconvenient reality is not constructive. In bipartisan system, what you end up with is a pretense of "representative of the majority", because the party that got the majority of votes is not necessarily actually fully supported by people that voted for it - it's just that they could stomach the alternative even less. It's not a compromise in any meaningful sense, it's shoving square pegs in round holes and pretending that it's nothing special.

      Inevitably it boils down into an argument about the benefits/disadvantages of the Electoral College, which would derail the topic further; but I will point out that as "unrepresentative" as the indirect Electoral College may seem, true democracy, over a republic, has never lasted more than a few centuries, due to legislative gridlock and the tyranny of the majority.

      You seem to be claiming here that electoral college is the necessary trait of a "republic which is not a true democracy". I don't see how that is the case - pretty much all modern democratic states are representative republics, not direct democracies, and have similar protection against tyranny of the majority that U.S. enjoys (some, like Germany, have much stronger ones, at the cost of political freedoms). And legislative gridlock is completely orthogonal to all those things. Besides, one could say that there are many cases in which legislative gridlock is a good thing - it prevents governments from making rash decisions over important issues (issues which are divisive enough to cause gridlock generally tend to be important).

      I also find the "more than a few centuries" argument very strange, given that American democracy is less than 250 years old. It may be one of the oldest in contiguous, uninterrupted existence, but this has more to do with geographical isolation keeping U.S. away from major military conflicts with opponents that could match its strength in its early days.

    56. Re:Widespread interest by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Can you find El Salvador on a map without looking it up? Can you find Iowa? There's an argument that most people know the places that are near them better than the places that are far.....

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    57. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Owww gawwwwd I can't wait to see Santorum split for good, I don't like his hair at all! Also, can't wait for Mitt to pick his "running mate" *winkwink*. I'm a huge Rompaul (Pomney?) shipper myself.

    58. Re:Widespread interest by manicb · · Score: 2

      UK student here. If the tuition fees U-turn was simply a party "manifesto pledge" that they had to compromise on, that would be acceptable. Painful, but acceptable. This defence that "you can't expect us to achieve everything we want to if we don't win" is a straw man used to deflect valid criticism. The NUS pledge was a personal pledge written in unambiguous language and signed by every subsequently-elected Liberal Democrat MP.

      “I pledge to vote against any increase in fees in the next parliament and to pressure the government to introduce a fairer alternative.”

      They can't reasonably claim to have been tricked into agreeing to this, and the wording clearly allows for any electoral outcome. Those who broke the pledge have no personal integrity remaining. If you can't trust them to keep a publicly-signed unambiguous personal promise, what can you believe? I'd have strong reservations about believing Nick Clegg's word even under oath in court, and he's the party leader.

    59. Re:Widespread interest by Bensam123 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it's because we really have no actual sway over it anymore. The government has become so detached from its citizens that it makes it very hard to participate in it outside of your local community without a boatload of money.

    60. Re:Widespread interest by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      So you would ok, with France using the word "Europeans" to only refer to the French and claim there is no country with the word "Europe" in its name and so it is fine.

    61. Re:Widespread interest by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      My point somehow got cutoff. The point is it is not ok, to forget there are countries in the continent and pretty much consider themselves exclusive residents of the continent.

    62. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm from Central America and would be happy for people in the U.S. to realize America is the name of a continent which includes some other countries.

      I'm from North America, and I'd be happy for people in Central America to realize America is part of the names of two continents, and when used singularly in English, is used as a nickname for "United States of America".

    63. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simple: Al Gore is a lying charlatan where Bush appeared to be a normal-ish, above-average intelligence moderate conservative. Bush reversed this image entirely by 2004, but it was now a robotic gold digger fake war hero, versus the man who, for better or worse, had rallied the nation against 'the enemy'.

    64. Re:Widespread interest by jago25_98 · · Score: 1

      Well of course. What happens in the USA effects us all.

      Whether it's
      extraditions,
      financials. Dollar fund routing going througj the usa,
      Who's going to be bombed next,
      Technological developments,
      The influence of usa tv,
      what's happening with the internet ivluding riaa, dns and new standards...

      So while it's not everything, many things are USA led. There's so much reach from the usa the whole world is effected and cannot escape. Is venezuela a notable exception? Iran?

      Some of that is natural dominance (silicone valley etc),
      And some is the subtle empire (oil for dollars, cia)

      So why is china so interested? Well we don't know that - 500 comments is nothing in a population of billions. I think the chinese do have a strong interest in the usa but i'd love to have something beyond conjecture.

    65. Re:Widespread interest by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Your point is (a) terrible and (b) a strawman:

      (a) terrible because the name of France does not include the word "europe"

      (b) a strawman because using short form of a country's name does not in any way shape or form mean that the residents "consider themselves exclusive resides of the continent"

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    66. Re:Widespread interest by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 2

      Fair enough, I should have gone with "South Africa" or "UAE". The point still stands though. If a South African uses the word African to refer to elusively people of South Africa, I would say he believes South Africans are the only residents of Africa.

    67. Re:Widespread interest by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      I replied to the wrong post, so reposting here: Fair enough, I should have gone with "South Africa" or "UAE". The point still stands though. If a South African uses the word African to refer to elusively people of South Africa, I would say he believes South Africans are the only residents of Africa.

    68. Re:Widespread interest by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Well, there is at least one other country on the continent with "Africa" in the name. But just how many people who live outside of the USA call themselves "americans" -- not americanos, americans -- versus how many people outside of SA call themselves "africans?" No one using the term "american" is even referring to a continent in the first place. The problem here is nothing more than fauxrage.

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    69. Re:Widespread interest by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      Ok assume, Central African Republic renames itself to something else today, I would still not find it acceptable. Would you?
       
      I have seen people from South America getting annoyed by this, as they consider themselves Americans (as in people from the Americas) too; I am not sure which country they are really from.

    70. Re:Widespread interest by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Hell, I'd be happy if they just realized that I don't want to call myself a United Statesian or a Statesian or... well you get the picture. Hell, Mexico is the United States of Mexico. If we used that, some smart ass Mexican would accuse us of failing to realize there's other United Stateses out there.

      And yes, people in the US really *do* know that Central America is not another name for Iowa.

      I don't blame you all for being butthurt about the US setting up a bunch of dictatorships and banana republics in Central America, but at least complain about something that isn't petty. You would think it wouldn't be that hard to find a real criticism.

    71. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, props for showing solidarity with the rest of the continent. Keep the faith, amigo!

    72. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it odd how defensive Americans get when we talk about their politics.

      Because 99% of the time, I've found, all foreigners want to do is call us idiots. Fuck that, I would rather just not talk to you than risk having to sit through 20 minutes of insults.

    73. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still confused on how we ended up with Obama.

      (Not really, but it's been a travesty.)

    74. Re:Widespread interest by BZ · · Score: 1

      > Having the leader of a country which does have a
      > majority of the parlement against him/he is such a
      > problematic concept that it should just be stopped.

      That depends on whether the goal is to make it easy or hard for the government to create new laws.

    75. Re:Widespread interest by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      No, we care who wins reality TV shows. More people vote for American Idol then for their representatives.

      With the decades of bullshit that our politicians put this country through, is it really any surprise?

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    76. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, look another smug European who doesn't even need to drive more than two hours to visit another country feels superior in his knowledge of geography compared to somebody who lives an ocean away in a country who hasn't even seen a war with its neighbors in over a hundred years.

    77. Re:Widespread interest by schlachter · · Score: 1

      Yea, and it seems like more and more our government is spending our tax money changing the lives of others instead of our own people. Why can't we improve our bridges and schools rather than build them for our new found "allies" after bombing their previous government into submission?

      --
      My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
    78. Re:Widespread interest by socceroos · · Score: 1

      I'm going to suggest that this takes the cake. =)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ3RrqBqk14

    79. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Show me one other country in the world with the word "America" in its name and then you'll get some sympathy."

      USA is in in between JerUSAlem

    80. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting how much of the world is interested in our politics.

      Hello from Finland ;-)

      Well, I think Europeans are more interested in politics in general, not in _your_ politics specifically. And Americans aren't usually interested what happens in the world at all, which makes it seem that pretty common (european :P) political discussions are somehow 'special interest'.

      I would be curious to ask an american about bush too, but I would ask italians about berlusconi, and french about sarkozy too :D

    81. Re:Widespread interest by Riceballsan · · Score: 1

      Very true, voting for president is guessing which one is going to do less damage, and considering all options are horrible and likely to cause huge problems, no one wants to take the blame of "I put this guy in office".

    82. Re:Widespread interest by thereitis · · Score: 1
      What's the point of televised political debates anyway? The moderator either can't or chooses not to force them for simple a 'yes' or 'no' answer. Even if he did, politicians aren't going to be held to their promises anyway. And even if they were held to their promises, who would enforce it? If there were enforcers, they would probably be hand-picked anyway.

      I can't help but think of this movie scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VJHy_mfLFk

    83. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have apathy problem because we do not have anyone worth voting for. run-off elections might actually fix the problem.

    84. Re:Widespread interest by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Why should it be surprising?
      1) The USA is the most powerful country in the world, has nukes, aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, etc.
      2) Of the world's total military spending the USA is 43%, China at second place is 7.3%[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
      3) The USA is one of the few countries in the world that regularly exerts significant military, covert and political influence on other countries, including countries far from its borders. Sometimes for good reasons, but too often for bad reasons.
      4) The USA still is one of the biggest producers and consumers of stuff, if not the biggest.

      So naturally the rest of the world should care who the US people puts into power. To make matters worse, the USA has long lost its reputation of being "generally the good guys".

      Fact is Saddam was not as big a danger to most other countries as George Bush was. Iraq's missiles didn't and don't have that much reach (same goes for Iran). Can't say the same about the USA's military, CIA (and even their **AA - think SOPA, etc).

      George Bush is likely to have been a greater danger to the US citizens than Saddam ever was. And arguably caused more damage to the USA than Saddam ever would have.

      So of course it matters a lot who the US people vote into power.

      [1] And yet people in the US ask why China spends so much on defence - much may actually be for defence! Go see it from their point of view. In contrast aircraft carriers are mostly about projecting power, not defence.

      I vaguely recalled some commentary about how some Soviet/USSR military technology was crappy. But when you looked at it from a defence perspective, the technology made more sense.

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    85. Re:Widespread interest by Edzilla2000 · · Score: 1

      I was simply asking for Europe(you know, the continent...), not the Czech Republic...

    86. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be nice living in your delusional world. Or, well, I guess not since you'll never be happy. "America" is not the name of any continent on this planet.

      Added bonus, central america isn't a continent at all. And only one country on any of the continents has America in its name.

      Would you like a nice bucket to hold the big, salty tears of your unhappiness?

    87. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I support the independence of American Samoa.

    88. Re:Widespread interest by Erikderzweite · · Score: 1

      Finnland is not a NATO member, so US wars affect the country only marginally. It has about 260 peacekeepers around the world though: http://formin.finland.fi/public/default.aspx?nodeid=32296&contentlan=2&culture=en-US#Map

    89. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe some people care about the world and humanities direction as a whole rather than just what affects life within their designated territory.

      I guess Iran shouldn't care about all the US bases surrounding it in other ME states, after all it only affects them marginally as there's no territorial invasion, yet.

    90. Re:Widespread interest by JackieBrown · · Score: 2

      True. I remember Obama make a huge selling point over Hillary in their debates that he would never force a mandate on people for healthcare. He did a good job making himself seem like a moderate version of her.

      Debates are easy when you don't bind yourself to the truth.

    91. Re:Widespread interest by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      I hear this a lot but there are some problems with this stat, the chief being that people get to vote multiple times so basing the amount of votes on America Idol to the amount of votes in elections is not fair comparison.

      Also, we would probably have a higher turnout on our elections if people could phone or text in their votes like they can on America Idol. But I actually don't want people to lazy to go to the voting booth voting.

    92. Re:Widespread interest by The_Noid · · Score: 1

      You're still stuck in the "winner takes all" mentality. When the winner has only 22% that means he has to negotiate with other parties to form a coalition that has 51%. That means the winner can still not impose anything but has to negotiate with his coalition partners. This will lead to at least 51% of the population being represented.

      Once those negotiations are done the coalition can rule, as long as they don't do stupid stuff that makes the coalition fall apart. There is no problem of a "cacophony of voices" since the coalition speaks with one voice.

      The most important thing is that parties will actually have to listen to the people, since new parties can spring up very easily, and thus their 22% can evaporate in no time. New parties are not without a chance, since the winner is not big enough to rule and needs to form a coalition.

      This combined makes a system with proper proportional representation much, much more democratic than what the USA has now. And that also makes that the USA will never change system, since it is not in the interest of the ruling two parties. The two ruling parties don't want democracy, they want power.

    93. Re:Widespread interest by Xphile101361 · · Score: 1

      That is only because you can't vote for a representative by texting from your mobile phone

    94. Re:Widespread interest by Rolgar · · Score: 1

      We have that problem because our voting system forces us to only have two candidates, because if two similar candidates who would get the support of the same voters in a head to head (Bush Sr and Perot), then those voters lose out for splitting their vote. If you correct the ballot as lexman said, you can then allow more candidates on the final ballot, say 3 or 5 per party, and a total of 15-30. Then, people should have plenty of choices and apathy should no longer be an issue because most people should have somebody they like on the final ballot.

    95. Re:Widespread interest by lonecrow · · Score: 1

      I call BS. This argument that both parties are identical is crap. It's just another mis-information tactic of the right. It is just another suppress the vote effort.

      Imagine McCain won the last election. What would have happened after Tunisia? Perhaps instead of a hands off approach to Egypt the cold warrior McCain may have used money, media, and covert operations to intervene and prop up Mubarak. If the Egypt uprising had stalled early then the Libya and others may still be under the thumb of autocrats.

      And that's just one one foreign policy example. There are countless things both foreign and domestic that would be very different if McCain had won.

    96. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's due to the fact that we're not oppressed like 1.3 billion are in China - Unless you count the 300M of us here under the current bozo in chief, 1/2 of whom thought it was a good idea to elect someone like him...

    97. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except "American" has long been the demonym of the USA, pretty much everywhere.

      Someone tried to coin "Usonian", and in Spanish there is estadounidense, but "American" is the one that has stuck.
      I don't blame the Americans for this, and I don't think it means they think the rest of the Americas don't matter.

    98. Re:Widespread interest by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Where's that?

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    99. Re:Widespread interest by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1

      Few Americans can place and name all 50 American states as well as their capitals. If Europeans can name even a fourth of them they're doing better than a good many Americans. Ask them about Europe and they'll say things like "that's in England right?"

      --
      Two of my imaginary friends reproduced once ... with negative results.
    100. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1/2 of whom thought it was a good idea to elect someone like him...

      And he'll get a bigger proportion this time around, especially given the current pathetic crop of "challengers".

    101. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean proportional representation? Like Scotland?!

    102. Re:Widespread interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is complete and utter bullshit, and fuck you for repeating it. American Idol gets anywhere between 23 million and 45 million viewers. Over 120 million people voted in the 2008 presidential election.

    103. Re:Widespread interest by Isaac+Remuant · · Score: 1

      Have you ever thought that it's because "your politics" influence the whole world in very relevant ways? Specially considering the warmongering attitude and the very real ability to see it through.

      --
      "Science can amuse and fascinate us all, but it is engineering that changes the world. " - Asimov.
    104. Re:Widespread interest by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      I have seen people from South America getting annoyed by this, as they consider themselves Americans (as in people from the Americas) too; I am not sure which country they are really from.

      Again, fauxrage. They aren't "Americans" they are "South Americans" (or more likely sudamericanos or sulamericanos) - if dropping the "United States" is too much of an abbreviation then dropping the "South" is too much of an abberviation too. They can't have it both ways.

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    105. Re:Widespread interest by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      Americas refers to both South and North America. They want the word American to refer to people from Americas (again both North and South America). I never mentioned that they wanted to use the word American to refer to people from South America. Learn to read.

    106. Re:Widespread interest by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Learn to read.

      When an argument on colloquialisms comes down to splitting hairs, it's over.

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      When information is power, privacy is freedom.
  3. Obama is a communist by funtapaz · · Score: 2

    Apparently a commenter added that Obama could, and should, be a member of the communist party. It would be fun to see fox news take that and run with it.

    1. Re:Obama is a communist by sdw · · Score: 1

      Would he be eligible to run for Premier?
      This could have some possibilities in 4 years...

      --
      Stephen D. Williams
    2. Re:Obama is a communist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Obama has yet to decline an invitation to the communist party, a display of how unpatriotic, and socialist, the traitor of an president is", or something like that, i guess.

    3. Re:Obama is a communist by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      FOX would never say that. That would imply he isn't already a member of the CCP.

    4. Re:Obama is a communist by zill · · Score: 1

      In case you didn't know, he was referring to the Communist Party USA, not the CCP.

  4. 500 is a lame limit by gl4ss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (it's per post though).

    pretty nice way of "occopying" something though. one comment explaining something..

    We have no chance to occupy our president Hu. He hates Internet and has no account on any sns website, so we can just occupy Obama, forgive us.

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    world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
    1. Re:500 is a lame limit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hu is on google+ but the problem is finding him. The search dialogue says 'Who do you want to search for?' and they were typing 'Yes'.

  5. This is a good thing! by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Funny

    Brazilians use Orkut, Chinese use Google+. Good for them, but great for everybody else -- we just continue not using Orkut or Google+.

    --
    Do you even lift?

    These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

  6. Not surprised. by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Informative

    I seem to recall plenty of people milling about when the Berlin wall came down. When you give people access to something formerly restricted, plenty of people will show up just to say they were there.

    The Internet will be an interesting place on the day the "Great Firewall" finally gets shut down for good.

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    How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
    1. Re:Not surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, Berliners being able to move from east to west is no big deal. They really only showed up for the novelty value.

    2. Re:Not surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Internet will be an interesting place on the day the "Great Firewall" finally gets shut down for good.

      Oh yes - the Júyuè that never ends.

    3. Re:Not surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Maybe we can trade some of our debt to the Chinese in exchange for the yellow gold they stole from us back in the 1900's."

      And also the kilotons of platinum that were taken by the white-man from us during the opium war in the mid-1800's.

      I will choose Chinese over the Jews in any given second.

  7. This makes me think about Diaspora. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whenever the topic of social media comes up, even when it's about Facebook or Google+, I immediately think about Diaspora.

    Diaspora is one of the most spectacular open source failures to have ever happened. In fact, I think it's as close as the open source community has ever gotten to a so-called "perfect storm" of failure.

    It was built on the weakest foundation possible: a foundation of fads. Its very purpose is a fad (social media), and its architecture is a fad (peer-to-peer networking), and it was implemented using a fad technology (Ruby on Rails).

    The implementation itself was rife with security holes of all sorts. This isn't surprising, though, considering that Ruby on Rails was used. Rails "developers" aren't exactly known for caring about performance, reliability, and security. They're often all about cranking out one web app after another, to take advantage of every new buzzword that is coined.

    The complete lack of adoption by anyone is extremely laughable, especially given the huge amount of hype and media attention that Diaspora got. Never before have we seen an open source software project get that much hype, but fail so miserably.

    1. Re:This makes me think about Diaspora. by hey · · Score: 0

      Not to mention the suicide of one of the guys. I think it was built on such faddy stuff because the developers were in college.
      Lets start again with COBOL ;) Java might actually be a good choice.

    2. Re:This makes me think about Diaspora. by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 0

      Lets start again with COBOL ;) Java might actually be a good choice.

      No, no, no! Use APL. After all, APL is easy!.

      Confession: I have long had a soft spot for APL. It and Fortran IV were jointly the first programming languages I learned.

      --
      Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
  8. Totalitarian regimes today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I feel solidarity with these chinese people who wrote to Obama just to say "we need freedom"... (This theme is also relevant to me as I was born in another totalitarian regime, the soviet one, a year before it broke; now we still have to build our country and resurrect its culture, persisting against all the pro-soviet-russian forces (i'm from Ukraine.)

    1. Re:Totalitarian regimes today... by bit+trollent · · Score: 3, Funny
    2. Re:Totalitarian regimes today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's some music for you...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRzeRlg_3BI

    3. Re:Totalitarian regimes today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      wrote to Obama just to say "we need freedom"

      You mean like Iraq or Afghanistan?

    4. Re:Totalitarian regimes today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Freedom ain't war...

    5. Re:Totalitarian regimes today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now we still have to build our country and resurrect its culture, persisting against all the pro-soviet-russian forces (i'm from Ukraine.)

      It's ironic that you are "rebuilding your culture" by simply reversing the way discrimination is applied - now in a country where two thirds of population speaks Russian, and one half considers it their native tongue - the one they speak daily in the privacy of their homes - Ukrainian is the only official language, and government cracks down hard on the use of Russian in schools and mass media.

      Maybe you should actually fully understand what "freedom" means before you so emphatically voice your support for it. True freedom is freedom to live your own live, not freedom to tell others how to live theirs.

    6. Re:Totalitarian regimes today... by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

      War is the usually the only path to freedom and peace, since no totalitarian regime will go down by itself.

    7. Re:Totalitarian regimes today... by Dainsanefh · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Everyone knows that an explosion of a 1 megaton nuke in Damascus will give instant democracy and freedom to the Syrian people.

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      Twitter: @dainsanefh
    8. Re:Totalitarian regimes today... by YurB · · Score: 1

      I think the first thing they need is our understanding and not some military actions of USA. If others around the world will understand that chinese people are just like any other and deserve to live in democracy, but instead they have all this crimes done by government against them, then, maybe, it might help them fight for their future in certain points. I just think we can feel solidarity, even if we can't help directly. (Some day someone may be making a protest in some civilised coutry which will influence that country to make sanctions against China or any other totalitarian state, and that state will need to do something to stop crimes.)

    9. Re:Totalitarian regimes today... by YurB · · Score: 1

      Let me explain what i mean by 'soviet-russian-forces'. You probably think I mean everyone who speaks Russian. It's not the case. By that I mean, first of all, those people, who 1) represent the old mindset of corruption, family- and friend-based governments and criminal way of doing their big businesses; 2) those who intuitively resist any development by being part of these corruption machines and aggresive businesses; 3) the old authocratic education system; 4) the very-low-quality popular culture build on top of erased culture memory of several soviet generations. By resurrecting culture I mean giving people higher aesthetic standards which will help them live corruption-less, criminal-less, creative lives. (Yep, the last sentence sounds like a fantasy, but every fantasy has a little bit of truth).

    10. Re:Totalitarian regimes today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      today's theme is attrition

  9. Re:Santorum should join KKK and be happy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Robert Byrd, as a leader ( maybe former ) of the KKK might have a problem with that.

  10. Re:I hope Obama... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How violent you are... You buy the iPhones and all kinds of stuff built there under this totalitarian regime, but you still allow yourself to write that... And you don't even think that forwarding the IP adresses may cost someone his life.

  11. Re:Santorum should join KKK and be happy. by tnk1 · · Score: 2

    True. For the most part, the KKK was founded and run by Democrats.

    Yes, the Democrats were much different than what they are now, but it is funny to hear people pointing to the Republicans as the ones who would join the KKK. In the old days, it would be the Republicans calling out the Federal troops to put down the KKK. How times change.

  12. Re:Santorum should join KKK and be happy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought the whole point was the Repubs and Dems changed party lines back around the turn of the century and it was only in like the 60s-70s that they turned into the modern Left/Right parties that everybody either roots or loathes.

  13. Re:Santorum should join KKK and be happy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Santorum should join KKK and see what happens when they fid out he is a mormon.What other impossibilities are out there

    Santorum isn't Mormon that's why it's an impossibility. I've never seen so much ignorance not posted as AC. You've, by your comment ratified the above about how little we know of our politicians.

  14. Re:Stupid chinks by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 0

    G+ Xi Fa Choi!

  15. Re:Santorum should join KKK and be happy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what the Democrats would like you to believe; the reality is, a person who lives cradle to grave on government largesse does not have a multiparty vote -- they have only one option to keep their livelihood -- and that is the Democrat party that keeps that largess flowing. It is not a 'choice' situation, no more than it was a choice situation 100 years ago.

  16. Re:Santorum should join KKK and be happy. by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 0

    Sorry, he was Roman Catholic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum#Catholic_Online_article_regarding_sexual_abuse_incidents).

    But he acts a bit goofy. So I misjudged him. It is hard to keep up with all these Palin-like oddballs.

  17. Somehow, I imagined.. by Higgins_Boson · · Score: 2

    Somehow, I imagined about 3,000 posts telling Obama where he can get "cheapest WoW goldz and Diablo III beta invites with special pet!" and lots of replies like "ni hao" and such.

    I was very disappointed in not seeing those.

  18. still banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...dont know where ya getting your news but i am in china and still cant go to G+

    1. Re:still banned by flood78 · · Score: 0

      Tested from Shanghai and Beijing, still blocked when going to plus.google.com So I guess it was temporary "issue" ;-)

  19. Unblocked? by BillX · · Score: 1

    I'm far more interested in why G+ has been unblocked, while FB/Twitter/etc. are still firewalled. Did the Chinese gov't realize every post having a real / potentially verified name attached is more convenient than the site being inaccessible?

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    Caveat Emptor is not a business model.
  20. Dunno why the Chinese bother... by ibsteve2u · · Score: 1
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    Orwell: "In a Time of Universal Deceit, telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act"
  21. The Best Way to Rule a Country by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Force choices onto the electorate and make those choices bad. Many will quickly grow cynical and weary, finally giving up on the process. That leaves the few to rule, using the 'elected leaders' as front men who can easily be replaced due to their lack of credibility. Of course, that would never happen here.

    1. Re:The Best Way to Rule a Country by Dainsanefh · · Score: 1

      "Of Course, that would never happen here."

      Well you have been misinformed, sir. The Jewish bankers have used the Federal Reserve System as a means to control the U.S. government and doing the exact thing you said above.

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      Twitter: @dainsanefh
    2. Re:The Best Way to Rule a Country by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      You may want to stop ranting for a bit to notice the rush of air past your head.

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      It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
      - E. Debs
  22. Only 500? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah... those were nice days... when I got only 500 mails in Chinese.. HTML was new back then...

  23. DOS by goodmanj · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Interesting. Half a billion people exercising free speech is indistinguishable from a denial-of-service attack.

    Our society and the way we structure our conversations, both on the Net and off it, aren't really equipped to deal with the problem of billions of people trying to have a conversation in the same room. We need a new way to think about mass communication in a way that doesn't cause information overload. I wonder if self-moderating systems like Slashcode are part of the answer...

  24. money and effort by alienzed · · Score: 2

    What I find disturbing is how much money and effort is put into this 'race' to the top. If half that money or energy was put into actually making things better, the country would be in much better order. What ever happened to people doing good things without doing so in the only way that ensures THEY get credit. What we need are more "do-gooders" and less "talkers-about-doing-good".

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    Never say never. Ah!! I did it again!
    1. Re:money and effort by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 1

      What ever happened to people doing good things without doing so in the only way that ensures THEY get credit. What we need are more "do-gooders" and less "talkers-about-doing-good".

      Oh, there's tons of these people out there. You might want to step back just a bit before suggesting running for office though, in order to avoid getting their vomit all over your shoes.

      So long as we expect our politicians to be filthy whores, that is exactly what we'll get, and decent people won't have anything to do with them.

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      People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
  25. We watch the US out of fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's mainly because the United States export mainly bad things these days. The U.S. repeals the Glass–Steagall Act, their banks flourish, hey let's also deregulate our banks. The U.S. has a huge derivatives market, let's also have a huge derivatives market. The U.S. has a low wage sector where people have to work three jobs to get by, let's also have a low wage sector. The U.S. would like to invade Afghanistan, let's also invade other countries. The U.S. has terrible imaginary property laws, let's also have terrible imaginary property laws. The United States have a very costly health care system that provides poor service, but it's very privatized so a few make a fortune, so let's also privatize our health care system. The U.S. privatized their prison system and now has the highest incarceration per capita rate in the world, let's also privatize our prison system. The U.S. abolished the evil death tax, let's also allow excessively wealthy families keep all their fortunes over generations. Students in the U.S. have to run up huge debts, let's also introduce monetary barriers in our education system.

    Some people in the United States have figured out how to get people to constantly vote against their own interest, which is not all that difficult in a country where the people love to hate and fear their government, making it the ideal place to experiment how to sell bad ideas, and once that's figured out the things learned in the U.S. are applied to other "Western" countries, where there is more of a consensus to cooperate, where people prefer to like their governments, where businesses cooperate with the unions to find the best solutions, where banks rather finance investments than speculate, and so on. The easy way to scare a German for instance is to talk about bringing "Amerikanische Verhältnisse" (conditions as they are in the United States) to Germany. We watch your politics and media as a matter of survival, so we can do something about climate science denial to prevent it becoming a problem here. Back in secondary education we would watch documentaries showing how spin-doctoring works in the United States to prepare us for when the trend reaches us. We regulate our media and make sure they self-regulate properly so we don't get some FOX News equivalent here, thanks to us knowing about FOX News.

    The irony is quite funny, the political right loves competition, and in better times we had competing political systems. When the Soviet Union became less scary, the notion that we have to make sure "our" system is better vanished, and some people take advantage of that. If you had a soviet leader visiting the United States today, seeing the bridges in the country crumble while high wage earners make one million times as much as low wage earners per hour, they would probably not know whether they should laugh or cry. If the people in the United States would stop being crazy, or at least keep their bad ideas at home, we'd pay less attention.

  26. Google Must Have Caved! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They most certainly must have reached an agreement with the Government to filter out stuff. The same thing they agreed to do when they implented google search in China before bowing out because of " Humanitarian reasons" When actually the only left because of hack attempts. They only reached this to boost the numbers using Google + to making more money for adds. " Don't Be Evil, My ASS "

    1. Re:Google Must Have Caved! by Dainsanefh · · Score: 0

      Google are founded by Jews. What do you expect?

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  27. Dictator by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Probably just telling him how happy they are for shipping all of the jobs over there, taking the economy and how to continue to subvert the U.S. constitution.

  28. Tried it in China, it is still not working by RobertinXinyang · · Score: 1

    I just checked. It still does not work. Part of the problem is that Google appears to only have a small allocation in P.R. China. As such most attempts to use it time out.

    Back to the point, I am still unable to access it.

  29. It is reality TV by microbox · · Score: 1

    It is the best reality TV show I've ever seen. Would love to see Santorum or Gingritch win the nomination just for the popcorn value. Ron Paul would provoke an even bigger farce, since the guy actually believes in something, and it's a different planet from the status quo. What more entertainment could you possibly hope for?

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  30. Sad the misinformed racism still exist in /. by Dainsanefh · · Score: 0

    The Jews right in our homeland is more dangerous the the Chinese. Period.

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  31. The blocked is not unblocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I cannot access the google plus in China right now!

    1. Re:The blocked is not unblocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      same here. All of these bantering on Slashdot and no one bothers to check.

  32. Great Firewall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Great Firewall is easy to circumvent. Been there done that. They just make it illegal to keep people from talking about what they read when bipassing the firewall. Essentially, making it illegal to visit sites makes an open conversation about those sites illegal, thus keeping everyone quiet and accomplishing the great firewall's purpose.

  33. Re:Santorum should join KKK and be happy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Santorum should join KKK and see what happens when they fid out he is a mormon."

    He is not a mormon. Or maybe you meant a moron?