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Apple Unveils New iPad
adeelarshad82 writes "As expected, Apple announced the new iPad complete with a Retina Display, quad-core processor, 4G LTE, and an improved camera. The new iPad will run the rumored A5X processor, which according to Apple will provide four times the performance of the Tegra 3. The revamped tablet will also include a 2048-by-1536 display, apparently the most in any mobile device. And finally with 4G LTE, the new iPad will provide up to 73 Mbps download speeds; partners for which include Verizon, Rogers, Bell, Telus, and AT&T."
Quad core graphics, not quad core CPU...
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Glad to see this finally announced/released and while I'd love to exchange for my iPad2, I don't see a compelling reason to upgrade. Without Steve Jobs doing the dramatics, watching the Live Blog was almost as exciting as Watching Grass Grow.
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And put it in a netbook with a Thinkpad-style trackpoint... I'd buy that right away.
Wow! You'll be able to reach your 3GB cap in 5.19 minutes! What'll you do for the rest of the month? :D
0.07 pounds heavier. I stand corrected.
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but she's got a new hat
Apple also announced a new Apple TV that will have 1080p for the same price as the current generation: $99. I didn't read any other changes.
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I can just see it now. Taking home the new ipad3, turning it on for the first time, excited for the fast download speed and massive processor, and the first message that appears:
You have exceeded your bandwidth quota for the month. All network apps disabled
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I saw somewhere that there are about 1300 of said Chinese co-eds at the gates every day trying to apply for a job at the plant
The answer to all your problems
So get a bluetooth keyboard.
They have these things called "jobs." You should look into that.
Not any more. I'm surprised you didn't see the coverage. It was everywhere. I wish Dennis Ritchie had gotten as much.
I am pretty surprised that siri is not fully implemented on this device. it is only being used for dictation
Meh, content creation is sooooo passé. All the cool kids today are consuming content provided by others, such as large media conglomerates desperate to get you to download their app. Don't you want to be cool?
Because they don't have much of a choice
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
You will never get that speed on the device. I have a 4G LTE cell phone and it doesn't even get 10% of that speed.
Hell it shouldn't even be allowed to be called 4G. The 4G standard is 100Mbps for high mobility devices (cellphones in cars) and 1Gbps for low mobility devices (people walking down the street or in their homes). This is a fraud in advertising.
That screen is just incredible. I mean, here I am working on a dual monitor setup - two 22" 1680x1050 monitors, side by side. That's about 3.5 megapixels. But along comes the new iPad, with a 3 megapixel screen in a 10" form factor - 85% of the pixels in about 15% of the area. Crazy. I'm not planning on buying one right now (already have iPad 1, which at this point I'll use until it dies), but I'm really glad that somebody is pushing screen resolutions above the relatively low 1080p we seem to be stuck with today on virtually every LCD.
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Is literally the new name. Am I the only one that thinks this is lame. Would Steve have ever okay this?
... no he is no Steve Jobs, he even forgot to tell the public WHAT THE NEW IPAD IS CALLED! ... ipad 3, ipad HD? iPad Retina?
He could have done better!
I'm just hoping I'll finally be able to get a monitor with a similar resolution for a reasonable price. If Apple can make a 10" display with that many pixels, plus other computer guts, for $500, I don't think a 22-24" monitor with that resolution for $500 is too much to ask.
But in the mobile world, most rendering is done through tile-based deferred rendering. The frame-buffer was already being split up during rendering, so having cores work in parallel isn't that big of a change.
The same resolution as my old CRTs, which I absolutely, wholeheartedly welcome back.
That's OK. iPad is still in the rapid growth phase. They need to appeal to people who don't yet have an iPad, not people who already have a slightly older model.
Who hurt you?
Sand's overrated... it's just tiny little rocks.
So don't buy one. Geez. I don't have a need for a dump truck, a B-52 or a complete set of Star Wars action figures, but I don't particularly care if other people find them interesting or useful.
Do you log into the American Dolls website to say you don't want one of those either?
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Everyone who ever took a photo cares about white balance. They might not know the phrase white balance. But they care if the pictures look too orangey or too blue. And auto white balance means that problem is mostly fixed without ever having to learn what white balance means.
This is exactly what everyone predicted, and I'm fine with that. I'm just a hair disappointed that the front camera is still VGA. Even if FaceTime is bandwidth-limited or someting, it'd be nice to take pictures of, say, yourself and your kids in greater than 0.3MP.
Oh, and the name--iPad, iPad 2, The new iPad. :-( Reminds me of my file versioning system: index.html, index-old.html, index-new.html, index-newer.html, index-newest.html, index-final.html, index-absolutely-final.html, index-final-i-swear-to-god-i-mean-it-this-time.html...
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
"Without Steve Jobs doing the dramatics, watching the Live Blog was almost as exciting as Watching Grass Grow."
Tim Cook may be as wooden as a door, but that man knows distribution. Jobs may have had the charisma, but Cook deserves a lot of the credit getting Apple to where it is today.
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Graphics is so highly parallel that the concept of a core doesn't really apply to graphics processors, at least ones I've seen. You talk about them in terms of shaders, ROPs, TMUs and so on.
No pun intended, but it'd make a great thin client alternative to a laptop.
Consider you had a "case" that you could dock the iPad to that had a battery, keyboard, mouse, charger, and possibly speakers. Combine some VPN software and RDP/VNC and it'd be pretty sweet for the occasional traveler.
If by "quality" you mean a tablet that many reviewers called rushed and incomplete, after a year, finally got the features everyone expected at launch, and has very few applications to this day, I'd hate to see what you call "poor".
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Because you aren't the target market. The target market is people who want to read email, watch youtube, check facebook and surf the web. Tablets are for consuming on.
I own an iPad 1. Its more convenient to sit on my couch, read a magazine that was delievered wirelessly, play a quick game that I either got for free (or paid $.99 for). It's nice at work to listen to music, and the battery life is amazing. Lasts from 8 in the morning until I go to bed. No need to lug around a cord for my laptop. No I can't create on it, wouldn't want to. I have a desktop and a laptop to do "real" computing on.
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Fingers crossed also that it might prompt a return to a more useful aspect ratio in affordable monitors.
... which will hopefully have an open platform version somewhere so I can run my own stuff on it.
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They have those. They're called "laptops".
That's just crazy talk.
EVERYBODY wants an American Girl doll.
Judging from the history of these things, Apple probably has the entire supply tied up for the next 18 months.
The best camera is the one you have with you. The iPad in your backpack is better than the DSLR in your closet at home.
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Yep, that's what we did for our 150+ business users that we gave iPad's to, cover with integrated Bluetooth keyboard.
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So, there are two models, an AT&T one and a Verzon one, but they both have UMTS/HSPA/GSM bands that would cover the "world" but also AT&T 3G service.
So, can I buy the Verizon model and slip in an AT&T card for now? 4G won't get to my area for a couple of years yet, but Verizon is more likely to have the better coverage when it happens.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Not by much. Inflation rate is pretty much nil these days (CPI when ipad2 launched ~217, CPI today ~227). @$500, that's only about $20... Since the wholesale electronics probably got cheaper it's probably a wash for Apple's profit.
On the other hand, median wages have been falling, so relative to typical purchasing power, the price has gone up.
Of course just like any electronics, the specs always get better for new models, so that isn't anything to sneeze at.
I don't get the Apple hate... well, I get part of it. It must feel good to trash some product/company, makes you feel superior (I guess). Since their success defies geek sensibilities (?) their customers must all be sheep or something.
But isn't this just the free market at work? It isn't as if they are like Microsoft* in the 90's, using their monopoly to rake users and customers over the proverbial barrel. They are selling into a very competitive market, doing the best thing of inventing stuff people want (not just pulling a Microsoft* and hanging out for ~4 years working on their copy), and raking in the money as stuff flies off the shelf to happy customers in record numbers. Selling the number of items they do, week after month after month after year, and maybe just maybe they've figured out the key component of the market: selling stuff customers want to buy.
If the only way you can rationalize their success is claiming the bulk of their sales is to fashion conscious wealthy hipsters chasing status symbols, you are deluded worse than the customer base that exists in your imagination. That explanation might fly for low numbers over a few quarters, but this is the same crap critics have been leveling for nearly 10 years of their gizmo selling. Time to grow up and deal with it. Or even better, do the "free market competition" thing and create better (better as in defined by the market) alternatives. Or, hang in the shadows crying about how the market isn't obeying your carefully constructed world view.
They're working constantly to keep ahead of Google/Android... customers and the industry benefit, right?
*Not trying to throw Microsoft under that bus, but that's just how its turned out over the last ~12 years or so.
Costello: What’s the name of the new iPad?
Abbott: The new iPad.
Costello: Yes, the name of the new iPad?
Abbott: The new iPad.
Costello: Yes, the device just released today by Apple.
Abbott: The new iPad.
Costello: I know! What’s the name of the new iPad?
Abbott: The new iPad.
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Wait until Apple begins to deprecate the OS on your current iPad, you'll find out ;)
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You could have made the same arguments for MS in the 90s, the big difference being that Apple screws developers more than users. The popularization of curated computing is the worst thing ever done in the history of computing (for the industry itself and users, of course worse things have been done using computers). And that's all Apple's fault.
If that isn't bad enough for you, Apple is now abusing patents worse than IBM or MS ever did, among other litigation like suing manufacturers for the use of concentric rectangles with rounded corners, and and is currently the #1 employer of ethically questionable labor.
The way I see it if you hated MS in the 90's you should sure as hell hate Apple now.
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Same as current iPad2 (10h, 9h with 4G).
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
I already have that - the Asus Transformer Prime.
"excuse me here, but i thought a retina display implied ~300dpi this one falls a fair bit short of the mark if i'm not mistaken so once again apple marketing triumphs over al"l
264 dpi, 2048x1536 in 10 inches... maybe your complaint is about some imagined deficiency, but if you'd care to explain how this is actually a failure, I'd love to hear it. Are you actually complaining that if you freeze frame and squint really hard from two inches away you can actually make out... (gasp)... pixels? Because you couldn't make them out at normal viewing distance.
In other words, tell me how your post isn't just a knee-jerk, pointless, anti-apple jab with no redeeming value.
You can easily get two laptops for the price of one iPad.
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And now you have 150+ employees who get less work done than ever before.
Let's see...what apps did Apple cover in the keynote? Autodesk Sketchbook, GarageBand, iMovie, iPhoto, the iWork suite and a couple games. Yeah, no content creation at all.
It doesn't surprise me that you were modded up, as Slashdot is full of geeks that spend their lives in front of keyboards. However, it might surprise you to discover that the world managed to create a great many things before keyboards were ever invented. It's hardly a requirement for creativity, and in many tasks is even a hindrance.
Demanding that the iPad come with a built-in keyboard to suit your needs is like musicians demanding the iPad come with guitar strings or artists demanding it come with stylus support and a set of digitizer pens. The iPad is generic. If you have specific needs, buy a damn accessory.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
Yes, but then you'd have to carry around two laptops.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
But I bet they feel more prestigious.
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Why do all notebook displays suck in dpi?
Because so many applications suck in DPI. Vertical market applications may not have been tested at any DPI other than the Windows default of 96. So if you set your window system's DPI so that text remains readable, your applications are likely to become ugly at best or unusable at worst. This has caused a lack of demand for laptop-sized high-DPI panels.
Alright, so count me as a doubter that didn't think they'd pull out the super hi-res screen and keep it at the same price. So all of a sudden Apple comes out of nowhere with screen resolution that leapfrogs everything out there, including pretty much all of the LCD desktop monitors that I've used. So where is everyone else with super hi-res screens on commodity LCD monitors, laptops, etc.? Let alone Android tablets? When and where will we see those?
Available apps, 3G connection, touch interface, weight. Also you don't have to use the keyboard, it's just there in case you happen to have a need to enter a large amount of text. They're probably not used very often but since they cost about the same as a month of data service it was a very small part of the TCO calculation and potentially added a large amount of value.
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yes, we need EVERYONE to be content creators. because if there's one thing i learned from teaching guitar lessons for 5 years, EVERYONE is a rockstar.
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For whatever reason, the PowerVR mobile GPUs are described in number of cores.
Well there's a technical reason. To go back to the grand parent:
You talk about them in terms of shaders, ROPs, TMUs and so on.
These are organised in a module. The various different models in a range a distinguished by the number of such modules. (That's what the number of "Streming Multiprocessor" is in tables of GeForce cards).
Either by product binning: the factory makes GPU with 8 such modules, then test how many of these are actually usable and how many have defects and then activate between 1 and 7 of them and sells them as a different product in the same range. From "GPU Destructor 990 XL-Deluxe Elite" (with 7 of the 8 core activated - and needs 3 12v connectors) down to "GPU Destructor 120 Light Laptop Edition (only 1 usable core, but sips only 30 Watts). (And some time less core are activated than actually usable due to demand and offer economic laws, leading to users who try to unlock core and convert one card to the next one in the series simply by flashing a new firmware - a classic with some GeForce series).
Or by producing variants: Desktop range a based on a 8-module design, Laptop range have a 4 module design at a finer process, so it uses a lot less energy.
(I know some ATI/AMD GPUs are organised so).
In the case of PowerVR, from what I remember, GPUs were designed to be able to work in parallel (I think: each GPU taking care of a different tile of the deferred tile-based rendering). So it's very likely that maket speak "4 core GPU" means "4 modules" which in fact is "4 powerVRs working in parallel" (for a speed increase approaching 4x).
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I have a desktop and a laptop to do "real" computing on.
But how long until the iPad becomes so deceptively capable that people buy it as their only computer?
You can easily get two laptops for the price of one iPad.
Heck, in terms of mass - with those two $250 laptops you're getting 10-20x the value in kilograms/dollar!
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You're holding them wrong.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Just imagine if they had shitty third rate execs who only got $90 million in bonuses.
They might have to pay the workers 40 cents an hour! The sky would fall in.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
There are already a bunch of Android tablets announced with 1080p screens, starting with Asus TF700. They are probably not aiming higher than 1080p because Android apps can generally adjust pretty well to screen of a different size and proportions.
I dodged that bullet. My mom got my daughter and american doll with matching pony. My daughter could car less, but that wouldn't be very likely.
OTOH, she loves her model rocket, and is looking forward to this summers robot building project.
so, what I am saying is.. I Win.
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Right. So when you didn't think AAPL was growing it was a "big yawn". Now you know it is, it's "bubble". How childish are you?
This despite the fact that my post you replies to said iPad growth, not AAPL growth. Here, take a look at those.
http://frncs.co/apple/
Or look at it another way. Only 2 years on the market and Apple already sells more iPads than any PC manufacturer sells PCs.
Bubbles are irrational rises in stock price based on sentiment. AAPLs rise is based on unprecedented sales growth.
1280 pixels is the sweet spot for browsing
It is silly to think in terms like that for browsing.
On a smaller screen the increase in pixel density is very useful, because you are mostly looking at fairly scaled down web pages. The text can render readably even down to as small as five points or so, which makes the whole browser more usable because you spend less time zooming in and out to read.
The iPhone4 screen has been fantastic for reading, I am REALLY looking forward to this newer high DPI screen for reading all kinds of things, browsing among them.
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"it just really doesn't work well with most people, and the software (which is *absolutely* and *inextricably* part of the technology needed for this to work) is not up to the task".
Says who? Why do you think this is the case? And no, the software has absolutely nothing to do with it. I'm looking right now at my 22" >200dpi displays running 4pt fonts (not OS scaled) in my code editors, having salvaged IBM's monitors that used to be made for medical imaging, and yes the pixels are discernable. 99% of the onscreen text is still made with 1-pixel wide strokes and is clearly legible (at normal ~10 pt non-OS-scaled sizes) to regular people over my shoulder as I show them things. Comparable pixels are also discernable on the N800 I used to use, which is also in a similar DPI range iirc.
Lots of high-end technical users want to do the same and run things as small & sharp as are perceptible to them WITHOUT any scaling. All's that's needed are high-DPI monitors, no OS changes at all. Works fine in Windows, Linux, and whatever else you want. Again, this is a prosumer market desire, not something to foist onto the average person.
There's the fact that this was the worst point in your crappy post. Apple makes a tiny profit off the App Store but they treat it as a loss leader. Most of the money goes first to developers, then to credit card companies, then to store maintenance, then a tiny profit left over for them.
But, Apple Haterz gotta Hate. By any means necessary.
Apple painted themselves into a corner resolution-wise. They have to double it, or not change it at all.
For some reason iOS developers all forgot how to code for multiple screen resolutions -- even though they've (for the most part) been doing it for years, and handling highly variable aspect ratios at the same time.
Even when I'm targeting a specific mobile device, I make sure that the layout adapts correctly to various resolutions and aspect ratios. It takes very little extra work and the rewards are great when your needs change in the future and you need to port it to a different device or class of devices with different resolutions and aspect ratios.
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Your move, Einstein.