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Banned From Kickstarter For Being Cyberstalked

An anonymous reader writes "Rachel Marone has been a victim of cyberstalking for over 10 years. In 2011, she had a project on Kickstarter shut down because of the high volume of spam posted by the stalker in the comment section of the project. Recently, Marone's manager spoke to Kickstarter again to see how she could avoid having a new project banned if the cyberstalker showed up again. They replied, 'If there is any chance that Rachel will receive spam from a stalker on her project, she should not create one. We simply cannot allow a project to become a forum for rampant spam, as her past project became. If this happens again, we will need to discard the project and permanently suspend Rachel's account.' On her website, Marone sums up the situation thus: 'I am being told that I cannot crowdfund because I am a stalking victim. ... With so many women being stalking targets this does not seem reasonable to me.'"

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  1. With all due respect... by Slartibartfast · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I hate to resort to tit-for-tat tactics, the obvious answer here is to spam all the founders' accounts.

    Because, quite simply, that's 100% undiluted B.S.

    1. Re:With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was thinking, "What a great opportunity to help the world out... run her project, and use the comments to help track down the shitbag that's stalking her by turning over the server logs and everything you collect on a Kickstarter user." Way to turn a pr boost into a bad repuation, Kickstarter. :p

    2. Re:With all due respect... by TheLink · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A single stalker can shutdown a project because of spam? Either it's a false story or kickstarter has a crappy system.

      If it's really true I'm sure 4chan and gang might have a fun time shutting down ALL the kickstarter projects.

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    3. Re:With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      There is a really long thread on reddit.
      http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/s97g4/banned_from_kickstarter_for_being_a_stalking/

      I was pretty mad at first. A little more reading and now I think they did the right thing.

    4. Re:With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That may be the best option. If you show how easy the system is to abuse, they'll have no choice but to change the system.

    5. Re:With all due respect... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It's easy for an individual with enough time on their hands to create multiple accounts and spam away. Use proxies, cafes, Wifi and Tor to avoid IP bans. It's the price of online freedom.

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    6. Re:With all due respect... by QuasiSteve · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's easy for an individual with enough time on their hands to create multiple accounts and spam away.

      If the person was using the link to send the project creator a message directly, yes.
      Personally I don't see why that link even exists.

      But all comments on the comment pages and in project updates can only be placed by backers. You can only become a backer by pledging at least $1. Payment is processed through Amazon, which uses credit cards.

      Now, would this really deter a determined stalker? No, probably not. But at some point, buying $10 throw-away credit cards each time you'd get booted off has got to become tedious, and expensive, at some point and certainly puts up a barrier.

      Regardless, KickStarter is probably in a difficult position with this - they already can't check every single project in detail (the ones that collect $3M get a one-on-one webcam session, of course), so imagine if they'd have to verify claims about messages they get.

      That said - I highly doubt there was so much 'spam' that KickStarter had to intervene. Their system handles hundreds if not thousands of messages, status updates, pledges, etc. etc. every hour.

    7. Re:With all due respect... by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      OK so there's some speculation she might be a con artist. The project she claims was banned :

      "My client Rachel Marone ran a Kickstarter project called “Extreme Futurist Fest” in April 2011. She was banned because her cyberstalker posted 300 spam comments to her account. "

      did go through apparently :

      "Extreme Futurist Festival 2011 aims to unite the most radical thinkers around the globe in the fields of science, medicine, transhumanism, cybernetics, artificial intelligence, neuroscience, hacking, philosophy, and the arts."

      So there's that.

      And people in the comments are complaining about being stiffed :

      "Apparently this is going on (http://rachelmarone.com/banned-from-kickstarter-for-being-a-stalking-victim.html), but there's no mention of this Kickstarter at all. I highly doubt we'll see anything soon."

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    8. Re:With all due respect... by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well she's a self-defined "drama queen" :

      "(originally posted by Rachel Haywire, 2/12/09)
      [...]
      Here is to the drama queens. Those of us who had so many issues we pushed every last person away. Here is to the drama queens. Those of us who dared to direct and star in this experience of human tragedy as opposed to blindly sit around laughing at the semi-divine comedy. Here is to those of us who refused to define our existence by a false notion of singular identity. Here is to us.

      We may be your dancing monkeys but at least we are dancing. We will know each other by the scars that we wear with pride. Drama should be looked upon with utmost respect. The greater the drama the greater the person. The greater the play.

      There are few things that define the existential crisis of humanity better than drama. Why be dismissive of this crisis when we can passionately engage in it?"

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    9. Re:With all due respect... by Pyrowolf · · Score: 1

      What you linked to was a profile page, and the only project created (that's visible) is "Sanity is Slavery", not the "Extreme Futurist Fest". What's strange is that even when projects are forcibly cancelled, normally the page stays cancelled, not deleted. I'd assume, for the benefit of the backers. I'd be peeved if I backed a project and then the project page just disappeared.

      For example, this project (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/606787527/the-tech-sync-power-system) raised almost 28k by the time someone figured out it was possibly a scam and got enough attention for kickstarter to contact the project owner, the project got cancelled, but it's still visible.

      Strangely enough, when I started digging, I found this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/machinekuntrecords/extreme-futurist-fest-2011 which is a project page, but is blank. This is the first time I've seen an actual blank page like this (and I've followed a lot of projects.)

    10. Re:With all due respect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Before going off on a rant, look at the person in question. Suspect fraud, no product, lots of complaints from donors of the first project, and always seeking personal exposure. Hmmm.

    11. Re:With all due respect... by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hm, you're right but "Machinekunt" is one of her projects/bands whatever ("My name is Rachel Haywire and I run the alternative record label/modeling agency/fashion company machineKUNT." Rachel Haywire being the alias of Rachel Marone) so it reflects badly on her that apparently there are unfulfilled commitments. You'd have to assume Kickstarter is aware of this.

      The girl seems to attract drama :

      Side-line-forums:
      "Congrats haywire, instead of sticking it to unter null, you have turned this into a lets all hate haywire thread again, so we wont even remember what all this other crap with unter was about.

      Now its about you again, aren't you happy?

      Congratulations. You are clueless. Nothing you say about anyone else ever sticks, you make them look like angels, even if they are in the wrong."

      Accusing people of stealing her bands work and even her autobiography:

      "Soon this rip-off band (not just my musical themes and vocal style but my writings in "Generation Hex" and "Acidexia") was accusing me of "stalking them" simply because I requested a peaceful resolution. It appears that they hacked my record label website, impersonated my identity through a false mirror site, and stole money from my fans. They were finally given a cease and desist letter after they pulled all this bullshit. I figured this would be the end of their harassment but I was wrong. It's a well-known fact that many cease and desist letters do not work. They only further instigate the criminals."

      More drama:

      "Recently, there has been a situation which has come to light here on VF, something that has created alot of for many, but, makes most of the people who comment on it look terrible, as well as the person who is the perpetrator to the whole situation. Of course, I am referring to Madam Haywire, aka, Rachel Haywire, and her assault on anything she feels is a slant towards her, including TerrorFakt, and such. Now, I don't have a beef with Rach, that's first and foremost, my only beef with her was that she put out that horrid attempt at a rap song, but, from what I've been hearing, and from what I've been reading (mostly from her posts), she isn't generally hated, but, she's also not well liked.

      And this is, if you go based on what a majority of users here on VF would say, mostly her fault...I don't really agree with that, because I don't know the causes to her situation with all of these folks, I wasn't there, and I'm not gonna jump on the bandwagon, BUT, I am going to accuse her of enabling all of the ABUSE she has received here on VampireFreaks, simply because of the course of actions she has taken against whoever she's having a tif with. I feel that alot of what's going on, on both sides of the spectrum, is infact childish, there's no need for mudslinging, that isn't what VF was about in the first place, people need to stop...Rachel especially needs to stop!!"

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    12. Re:With all due respect... by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      And why even leave it up to an individual? Crowdsource it!

    13. Re:With all due respect... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      Great, but who are you?

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    14. Re:With all due respect... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      And you're anonymous. Which looks more stalkerish to you...?

      To be honest, this has all the hallmarks of an internaut with an inflated ego who winds people up and takes their reactions as proof of a great big conspiracy of hate. I've seen a fair few people who fall into that pattern. In fact, I once had someone stalk me across newsgroups and forums in order to accuse me of stalking him.

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    15. Re:With all due respect... by rahlskog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was just thinking that she might just get 4chan/Anon on the job of hunting the stalker, they tend to like a good challenge. On the other hand it might just be 4chan/Anon doing this and then there is really nothing you can do about it.

      Funny world this is turning into where Anon is the solution and the cause of many problems. But I'd rather have a chaotic-neutral internet overlord than the lawful-evil corporate Lordship that uses the law to strangle us.

    16. Re:With all due respect... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      It's not that rare. One of the implications of Dunbar's number is the idea that we might not be mentally capable of accepting the sheer number of human beings in the world. If there's only 150 "people" in your mental model of the world, and it's only people that can mod down Slashdot comments, then it's not that big a step to anthropomorphise downvotes into a single "enemy"...

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    17. Re:With all due respect... by gorzek · · Score: 2

      Well, I'm a longtime Slashdotter and I am also a friend of Rachel's on Facebook--and have been acquainted with her for over 12 years. I wouldn't say we're really good friends or anything, but she's certainly a kind and sincere person and has been dogged by the asshole stalking her for a very long time. He follows her around wherever she goes online and pulls stunts like this to taunt and humiliate her.

      I just don't understand why Kickstarter would hold the project manager accountable for comments posted by backers, but not give the manager the ability to do anything about those comments. I mean, why does Kickstarter go around removing "spam" comments from people's projects? They're posted by backers, right? Doesn't that make them inherently not spam, since they're from people who actually support the project?

      What Kickstarter seems to be lacking is a sane way of dealing with harassment. Online harassment is sadly common, but also not that hard to deal with when you're talking about comment systems--filter them as spam, put in IP blocks, blah blah. You can make it more difficult for someone to indulge their harassing activities.

      That Kickstarter saw fit to ban Rachel and her projects, though, is just really odd--especially in that they basically said there's nothing she can do about it if someone wants to spam her projects until they get banned. What's to stop competing projects from doing that to each other? Privately ask their backers to go to this other project, pledge $1 each, and then spam spam spam! Yeah, no possible way this could be abused...

      If nothing else, I hope this leads to Kickstarter putting better mechanisms in place to deal with this kind of behavior.

    18. Re:With all due respect... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I just don't understand why Kickstarter would hold the project manager accountable for comments posted by backers, but not give the manager the ability to do anything about those comments.

      Kickstarter's original complaint was that she was feeding the trolls, not that the trolls were showing up. As far as I can see, Kickstarter wanted rid of her because she was stirring up trouble, or because they were worried about the complaints coming in about a previous project. The last thing they want to do is put something in writing that is legally actionable, so they just default to the Ts & Cs in a vague way. As a course of action, it's time-tested and legally sound.

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    19. Re:With all due respect... by vr00mvr00m · · Score: 1
    20. Re:With all due respect... by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      I'm starting to think it's bogus too. Someone stalked for that long would have better sense I'd hope.

      She seems to be a narcissist or suffering from some collection of cluster B issues. Until treated, it's unlikely she'll develop any sense.

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    21. Re:With all due respect... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Narcissism, is now being seen as a developmental issue resulting from a birth defect. That defect being a lack of an autonomic empathic response. The various conditions from that defect take years to form and vary substantively based upon the social environment in which that person is reared. As a genetic trait, narcissists being raised by narcissists, will obviously grossly exacerbate the condition and produce worst possible outcomes.

      Treatment prospects are pretty much nil and those associated with them through family relations just end up having to develop coping traits to minimise harm http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/emotional-freedom/201008/how-deal-narcissist, those not related a simply advised to avoid them and the hassles they generate.

      It would seem the management recognised the personality trait and took the sound position of avoiding future relationships.

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    22. Re:With all due respect... by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      Genetic predisposition with social environment having major effect? Thanks, you've just helped me understand my former wife and former mother in law.

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    23. Re:With all due respect... by Leafheart · · Score: 2

      All this time, with such a new account, why does it look that you might be this stalker?

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    24. Re:With all due respect... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Interestingly enough naive men often get drawn into relationships with narcissistic women, the women think their extra special and the men get drawn into that delusion believing those women are special. Of course harsh reality and bitter disappointment along with the post wedding constant degradation for not being good enough for her, soon painfully shatter the illusion.

      Oddly enough the things narcissists fear more than anything else is abandonment, so there is that constant push pull of emotion, attack followed by repentance (only if abandonment is sensed), passive aggressive as an art form.

      If a replacement can be found to ease the fear of abandonment watch out, extended revenge is in the offing for each and every perceived slight no matter how minor.

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    25. Re:With all due respect... by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      All this time, with such a new account, why does it look that you might be this stalker?

      Hah ! Feel free to browse my comment history to ease your mind. I've created several Slashdot accounts over the years but this is the first I actually used on any kind of regular basis. The oldest one I remember (and I'm locked out of) is in the mid 600.000's but I'm sure I created another one before that.

      Anyway that's why I always try to include links in my comments, help people make their own mind up. Wouldn't expect anyone to take someone else's word on the internet.

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    26. Re:With all due respect... by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      Just bored. Internet drama is always good for a giggle when the participants are to dumb (or delusional) to cover up their history.

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  2. And if it weren't enough by Hentes · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now she got Slashdotted too.

  3. The solution is simple. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The solution is clear, start posting high volumes of messages on all the other projects for supporting kickstarter, an organization that clearly supports 'cyber bullying'. I would imagine that after a significant amount of projects have been shut down, they'd turn around and actually fix the problem properly.

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    1. Re:The solution is simple. by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think she is crowd sourcing this...

    2. Re:The solution is simple. by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 2

      The solution is for the people/groups with kickstarter projects to suspend operations until the problem is fixed properly. You can't fight dick moves with dick moves without becoming a dick. Kickstarter's policy of punishing the victim is absurd and it shouldn't take much to point them in the right direction.

    3. Re:The solution is simple. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      The solution is clear, start posting high volumes of messages on all the other projects for supporting kickstarter, an organization that clearly supports 'cyber bullying

      No, it is quite clear that they do not support cyber bullying, by refusing to provide a venue for it to continue in.

      Bullying them into accommodating the cyberstalker seems to me to be counterproductive. Working to stop the stalker might be more helpful for the victim, who could then cease being a victim and move on.

      But it's so nice to have someone to be outraged on behalf of, isn't it?

    4. Re:The solution is simple. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      No, it is quite clear that they do not support cyber bullying, by refusing to provide a venue for it to continue in.

      It's clear they support it by allowing a stalker/bully to essentially prevent them from being able to do things any other person is able to.

      Bullying them into accommodating the cyberstalker seems to me to be counterproductive.

      It's clear this is the language the company understands, they give into this sort of thing, so use the same methodology to either force them give back the project because it's causing more problems by removing it or they will find another solution which doesn't rely on giving into a stalker/bully 'winning'.

      But it's so nice to have someone to be outraged on behalf of, isn't it?

      What?

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    5. Re:The solution is simple. by canajin56 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      That wouldn't work, because then ban people who spam like that. Like they did here, because SHE WAS THE ONE DOING IT TOO. Here's a sample

      "As you all know I have a rockin' tight ass, a successful project on Kickstarter that you've all funded, and a cyberstalker that goes by the name of FrankSinatraDirtyTalker1915@comcast.net.
      I originally met "Frank" back in College, where we dated for a bit. I should point out that he's not an old man, as his username might imply, but rather someone who is simply obsessed with Frank Sinatra and my gorgeous rockin hard ass.
      Anyway, when I broke up with him he took it pretty badly. It was our Sophomore year at Rice University and I had just discovered gravity bongs and going down on another girl while blazed out of my gord. As I've admitted, these were confusing albeit fun times for me.
      Meanwhile, "Frank" was raised as a Mormon but had recently converted to Scientology. I guess you might say he was experimenting with his own hallucinogenic homoerotic drug. This drug/sex/cult cocktail, combined with my round pulchritudinous derriere, and the sudden shock of losing his ability to play his daily role of dressing up as Dr. Parnassus while gently fondling my perky nipples and supple breasts that he had affectionately named the Merry Mammary Sisters of Nippopolis, and Queens of the Breastiary - led to Frank's complete mental breakdown.
      I don't blame Frank for my rockin body, just as I don't blame you for being attracted to my intelligence and funding my project on Kickstarter. However, what I do not like is being stalked. I hope you all do what I do when you see Frank's messages on any thread related to my project. Just lick your index finger, point it at Frank's username and then say, "Ooooooooooooo ICE COLD! Mama thinks you're a BAAAAD BOYYYY! OOOOOO Ice Cold..." then point the same finger back at your left nipple and make a sizzling sound "SSSSSssssssssssss" and sing this little rap
      Thank you all again for funding my project on Kickstarter. You're clearly invested in a winner!"

      They don't want her having her lovers' spat in their comment sections, assuming the other account isn't just her, trying to drum up attention by faking a stalker and then breaking enough Kickstarter rules by "fighting back" that she can get banned and then run to Reditt and Slashdot within seconds.

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    6. Re:The solution is simple. by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Before you start promoting hurting a bunch of legitimate projects, you should go look up this woman's "Internet history". She's clearly a loon and may have even made up the stalker for publicity. I wouldn't be surprised if she was the anonymous person who posted this to /. as well...

    7. Re:The solution is simple. by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      Merry Mammary Sisters of Nippopolis, and Queens of the Breastiary

      ...

      Tell her we want to see the evidence or we won't believe it.

  4. Banned from Facebook too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    According to her she was banned by Facebook too. Methinks there is more behind this story.

    1. Re:Banned from Facebook too by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2

      According to her she was banned by Facebook too.

      For using a pseudo-name.

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    2. Re:Banned from Facebook too by game+kid · · Score: 3

      ...which would've been one way of avoiding a stalker, if the 'book allowed it.

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    3. Re:Banned from Facebook too by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Facebook has enforced that rule somewhat inconsistently... So either she got caught up in one of the spasms of enforcement, or there's something more going on here. I suspect the latter because of other inconsistencies and omissions on her part.

    4. Re:Banned from Facebook too by RodBee · · Score: 1

      Having an inconsistent story doesn't necessarily imply she's to blame. This only means she's a bad storyteller. Please, people, don't use lawyer shenanigans here. If the tale doesn't add up, we should ask her first.

  5. kickstarter - run by brogrammers? by decora · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the inability to comprehend the situation and the lack of enthusiasm in dealing with it in a forthright and efficient manner speaks volumes about kickstarters management culture. they sound like a bunch of incompetent buffoons.

    1. Re:kickstarter - run by brogrammers? by alphatel · · Score: 1

      Seriously, monitoring spam, tracking abuse, and permanently banning the stalker is such a bothersome task? Rachel could easily take KS to court for allowing predatory behavior. That'll put a serious spin on their own stupidity.

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    2. Re:kickstarter - run by brogrammers? by medv4380 · · Score: 1
      You're assuming the some legal recourse is possible. Most stalking laws don't have cover Spam like conduct they Threats of Violence and safty. In KS in perticular

      Intentionally or recklessly engaging in a course of conduct targeted at a specific person which would cause a reasonable person in the circumstances of the targeted person to fear for such person's safety, or the safety of a member of such person's immediate family and the targeted person is actually placed in such fear

      See 21-3438

      So unless the Spam Harrasment is threatening physical violence you need to perform a hat trick to get any legal action unless the harassment is physical violence.

    3. Re:kickstarter - run by brogrammers? by terjeber · · Score: 1

      They comprehended the situation, the dealt with it with both enthusiasm and intelligence. The woman is utterly nuts and her network connection should be permanently pulled.

    4. Re:kickstarter - run by brogrammers? by terjeber · · Score: 1

      Seriously, monitoring spam, tracking abuse, and permanently banning the stalker is such a bothersome task?

      Not at all for KS, and that is exactly what KS did. Rachel is a nut.

    5. Re:kickstarter - run by brogrammers? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      And when she gets to court and the extent of her own misdeeds and mental issues are revealed and the case is thrown out.

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  6. Re:typical female rational by GabriellaKat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "i represent an unbearable burden on some system and am upset that they won't accomidate me"

    You're an idiot and should be kicked in the nuts.

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  7. Re:First they came for the women by Ash-Fox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then they came for me

    So... What are you wearing?

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  8. Re:First they came for the women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hey I have a guy that follows me around and vandalizes the building I live in. Can I stay at your place?

  9. Re:First they came for the women by trancemission · · Score: 2

    No mod points at the min - so will ask a question :)

    Is this taken from another quote? [please excuse my ignorance - am genuinely interested]

  10. Blame Game by PastBlast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't blame the website for not wanting to put up with your baggage. Blame the stalker. Take legal matters in your own hands and go after him/her.

    1. Re:Blame Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sounds great, maybe she should sue the people who are blaming her for things she can not handle herself. Maybe by allowing a setting for only "verified accounts" to post. this is such a trivial build item that one has to wonder what is wrong with KickStarter.. and by extension, you.

    2. Re:Blame Game by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2

      Don't blame the website for not wanting to put up with your baggage. Blame the stalker. Take legal matters in your own hands and go after him/her.

      Since you are clearly informed on this situation. I would ask you a question of "how?", considering the article mentions she had been in contact with the FBI who had bigger things to deal with and the police who claim this person is good at what he does.

      I await your detailed response that she is perfectly capable of doing and getting a 100% success rate as your initial post implies.

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    3. Re:Blame Game by GabriellaKat · · Score: 1

      Don't blame the website for not wanting to put up with your baggage. Blame the stalker. Take legal matters in your own hands and go after him/her.

      Its not HER FAULT. Anyone can stalk a person online or real life for whatever fucking twisted reason is going on in their head. Hell, you can even do it here and mod people down, etc. And taking matters to the law doesnt solve anything. They can just do it AC online. This is a site programming issue and should have been addressed as such. By their words and lack of fucking action all they are doing is "Slut Shaming" her and it has rightly backfired.

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    4. Re:Blame Game by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Since you need to be a backer to post comments to Kickstart-pages, couldn't she get the stalkers details that way?

      Going to make an assumption here, since she's made it clear that his identity is not known. It gets traced to a pre-paid credit card that has no actual real name or real address assigned to it (or even worse, someone else's real life details without verification required on these cards), useful details?

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    5. Re:Blame Game by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      Don't blame the website for not wanting to put up with your baggage. Blame the stalker. Take legal matters in your own hands and go after him/her.

      And while she does that she's supposed to put her whole life on hold ? The wheels of justice don't turn that fast.

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    6. Re:Blame Game by Tanuki64 · · Score: 1

      Its not HER FAULT.

      How do you know? According to some information in later postings, it actually might be her fault.

    7. Re:Blame Game by Dahamma · · Score: 3, Informative

      Going to make an assumption here, since she's made it clear that his identity is not known.

      She has? Seems just the opposite from her own posts on kickstarter, actually.

      "As you all know I have a rockin' tight ass, a successful project on Kickstarter that you've all funded, and a cyberstalker that goes by the name of FrankSinatraDirtyTalker1915@comcast.net.
      I originally met "Frank" back in College, where we dated for a bit. I should point out that he's not an old man, as his username might imply, but rather someone who is simply obsessed with Frank Sinatra and my gorgeous rockin hard ass.
      Anyway, when I broke up with him he took it pretty badly. It was our Sophomore year at Rice University and I had just discovered gravity bongs and going down on another girl while blazed out of my gord. As I've admitted, these were confusing albeit fun times for me."

      It goes on, and only gets weirder. Apparently a significant fraction of the bizarre posts on her kickstarter page were her own. I was as indignant as everyone else when I read the misleading /. summary, but after a couple minutes of digging I think kickstarter was right to ban her... (and that's not even getting into the fact that many "supporters" seem to have complained that she is just taking their money for her own personal use...)

    8. Re:Blame Game by HiThere · · Score: 1

      You could be right...but there are an awful lot of posts by "Anonymous Coward".

      And it doesn't matter. Kickstarter should provide a whitelist capability. In fact it sounds like they do, but don't allow any account that's been whitelisted to then be blacklisted, which is just stupid. (Granted, she should then be required to return their money.)

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    9. Re:Blame Game by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Yeah, after seeing a few comments like yours and digging around I believe you. It's a bizarre story but it's clear that comments attributed to various people just don't match their writing style in other public forums (ie Rachel may be a bit odd but she knows how to write). I wish slashdot would allow removing/self-modding down of comments, I'd remove mine and encourage anyone else who were taken in to do the same...

  11. Why must there be comments? by Mirvnillith · · Score: 2

    Why can't Kickstarter allow for projects to disable comments?

    1. Re:Why must there be comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I could see allowing comments as a way of giving accountability to projects. If, for example, someone failed to deliver on a project, being able to comment would be very helpful.

    2. Re:Why must there be comments? by QuasiSteve · · Score: 2

      This. So much this.

      Not allowing comments is what would allow projects like projektor to just get dozens of iThing fans to pledge for it without realizing they're being had.

      There should be a mechanism to deal with abusive comments, though - but that requires somebody at KickStarter to actually work through submissions in that mechanism, and assumes it won't get abused by people going "I have what I believe is a unique product, but this commenter posted everybody to an e-bay auction that sells something similar for half the price and it's making people drop their pledges - whaaa".

  12. Re:First they came for the women by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People who avoid victims because they don't want to deal with the fallout are the worst kind of cowards. And in your hypothetical situation the answer is easy - just like in this situation with kickstarter.

    What the people running the service have done is send a world wide message that anyone can control their service by destroying projects at will.

    Of course they will back track very soon. They'll have to, but the mind reels trying to figure out how they did not see this correctly in the first place.

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  13. Interesting: marketing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now she got Slashdotted too.

    Isn't that interesting?

    Looking at her websites and everything, she looks like one of those artsy people that would benefit incredibly from exposure. Actually, anyone doing any sort of business on the net needs exposure to get noticed.

    Over the last decade, I've become extremely cynical about things like this.

    If she were really getting threats and people were posting illegal things like child pornography as she said, then the cops would be involved to go after this guy and take him out. But no. Things are continuing for some reason and here she is getting all this free publicity and hits on her website.

    Read up on any of the "Gorilla Marketing" type of books out there and you too will become cynical of any sort of public exposure.

    From her website:

    In my How Facebook Deleted My Ass article I discussed how my account was deleted because I was accused of impersonating myself.

    . I don't consider FB to be that credible either, but then again, I wonder what made them come to that conclusion?

    And if she is in fact truly being stalked, I blame the marketing people of the World for making public exposure of any sort a cheap way to market products, services, people, art, etc ...

    After all, we do live in a World where people actually burn themselves to death to bring attention to issues. What's a little cyber-stalking?

    1. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Luckyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is really #1 question mark that pops up upon reading the story. Why is she not going to police with this? If it's such a clear cut case of long term stalking as she claims, it should be a no brainer to get police to look into it.
      This has a strong whiff of publicity stunt. She claims he's openly sending child pornography to multiple people and that "police/FBI won't investigate". Now I don't know where she lives, but considering current hysteria in the West about child pornography, I find this very hard to believe.

      Also, reading the stuff on the other site, she appears to actively engage in conversations with this stalker on her own. Very strange considering that police would recommend to not engage in any contact with such a stalker.

      This stinks of something big and important to the whole picture is being intentionally obfuscated by complaining party.

    2. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      She claims he's openly sending child pornography to multiple people and that "police/FBI won't investigate".

      From the story:

      The police say that he is "good at what he does."

      That doesn't tell me they didn't investigate, it tells me they looked into it and found no leads because he was decent at 'covering his tracks'.

      Your comment doesn't connect the dots for me, sorry.

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      Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
    3. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Tore+S+B · · Score: 4, Funny

      Guerrilla != gorilla. Man am I ever glad you don't work in a zoo.

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      toresbe
    4. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Luckyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ten years of "child porn and infant rape fantasies to hundreds of victims", and police "they tried and found no trails, he's too good we won't investigate"?

      Are you really that naive?

    5. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2

      >> gorilla marketing

      Actually, Spamming for Primates was a pretty good read.

    6. Re:Interesting: marketing. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Do we have any corroborating evidence, or should we base our outrage on a single person's claims which may or may not be genuine?

    7. Re:Interesting: marketing. by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      "@rachel_marone
      Looking for a good press agent. With all of this Facebook drama I think I am going to need one."

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      If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error.
    8. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Stuff is starting to surface to suggest that she in fact knows identity of the perpetrator, and has known for at least a decade.

      http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/s97g4/banned_from_kickstarter_for_being_a_stalking/c4c5j7r

      "Too good for police to catch" indeed.

    9. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      Ten years of "child porn and infant rape fantasies to hundreds of victims", and police "they tried and found no trails, he's too good we won't investigate"?

      I didn't say "too good we won't investigate", I said "The police say that he is "good at what he does."", which doesn't imply they didn't investigate, it implies they have to leads to act on. Police can investigate all they want, but without evidence, they cannot act.

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      Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
    10. Re:Interesting: marketing. by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      This is really #1 question mark that pops up upon reading the story. Why is she not going to police with this? If it's such a clear cut case of long term stalking as she claims, it should be a no brainer to get police to look into it.
      This has a strong whiff of publicity stunt. She claims he's openly sending child pornography to multiple people and that "police/FBI won't investigate". Now I don't know where she lives, but considering current hysteria in the West about child pornography, I find this very hard to believe.

      Also, reading the stuff on the other site, she appears to actively engage in conversations with this stalker on her own. Very strange considering that police would recommend to not engage in any contact with such a stalker.

      This stinks of something big and important to the whole picture is being intentionally obfuscated by complaining party.

      Just like the police caught the Pitt bomb threat person. Oh wait, they haven't.

      --
      I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
    11. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm not buying into it either.

      First, there's this claim on her page:

      This guy has been after me for over a decade and is hiding in his basement to avoid being served with various restraining orders

      That's total BS. First, you can't "hide in your basement" for 10 years to avoid being personally served with a restraining order. Hire a better process server.

      Second, the police do take it seriously, especially if you have any information that can identify the person. It's how one of my cyber-stalkers ended up getting fired, despite being thousands of miles away.

      So, she knows the guy - and has a bit of history with him. So I'm not convinced. Not when she's lied about other stuff (like claiming her past project was booted when it was actually funded).

      Then there's her complaint about Facebook.

      I am no longer allowed to go by my copyrighted pseudonym and thousands of people are now aware of my full first and last name.

      In other words, she created a fake Facebook profile and when she couldn't prove it was hers, they locked her out of it. If she's not happy with Facebooks' policies, there's a simple solution - don't use it. If your business depends on Facebook, you have bigger problems than some random cyber-stalker.

      As for Kickstarter, here's the way I see it. If they allow individuals to delete comments in a comment submission queue, then complaints will never be brought to the administrators' attention. So that's not going to work.

      But judging by this comment (and following the provided link verifies it on kickstarter), since she's lying about her past project being banned by kickstarter whe it was actually funded, what else is she lying about?

      Bottom line - a liar, a publicity hound and a drama queen, with a co-dependency problem with her stalker (she needs the publicity as much as he needs to stalk), call the wambulance.

      --
      Let's call it what it is, Anti-Social Media.
    12. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Actually I have. However I also applied some analytical thinking instead of taking everything she said at face value.

    13. Re:Interesting: marketing. by anagama · · Score: 1

      Captain Ron

      "Sorry Captain Ron, gorillas are native to equatorial Africa. OK? No gorillas. Not here. No way."

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyG0G96UB6k

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      What changed under Obama? Nothing Good
    14. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Renraku · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Restraining orders can be served in absentia if the party who is to be served is actively avoiding being served and the judge believes that. When the restraining order is broken, they'll arrest them, serve them with the restraining order, and if the infraction wasn't too severe, let them off with a warning since they weren't served before. If what they were doing was illegal anyway even without the retraining order, they'll be held in violation of it even though they didn't know about it.

      --
      Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
    15. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 1

      She's also the one who started the thread on reddit using a new sockpuppet account, then quickly deleting the account. Just like she simultaneously submitted it here anonymously (it takes time for stuff to go from the submission queue to the front page).

      A real publicity hound, and she even admits on her own site that she knows the guy - "This guy has been after me for over a decade and is hiding in his basement to avoid being served with various restraining orders". (Which isn't how it works ... but then again, the whole thing is so obviously made up).

      So, we have an obvious contradiction here - she knows who and where he is, but "the police can't track him down?"

      Shameless self-promoting drama queens like this one trivialize cyber-stalking.

      --
      Let's call it what it is, Anti-Social Media.
    16. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 1
      Exactly. The whole account is totally made up.

      "This guy has been after me for over a decade and is hiding in his basement to avoid being served with various restraining orders." She knows the guy well enough to try to have him served with a restraining order, but he ducks it for a decade?

      And then she writes, on the same page: "The hunt for my stalker continues yet has been unsuccessful as of now." WT***????

      If she's going to make up stuff and post it to slashdot and reddit, she shouldn't be surprised that anyone who actually has been cyber-stalked will spot the lies and contradictions. This isn't myspace or failbook.

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      Let's call it what it is, Anti-Social Media.
    17. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 3, Informative

      It never happened. She's mentally ill (her mother had her committed at 16), is homeless, lives off SSI, scams a few bucks whenever she can, has a history of harassing people and groups online, etc.

      For a better understanding, go back a few years to this thread: http://www.side-line.com/side-line-forum/topic/beware-mentally-challenged-person-on-gothindustrial-messageboards

      This thread was started when one organizer finally got fed up with her online harassment (cyberstalking, false accusations) tactics and threatened to sue.

      She has a LONNNG history of craziness and being banned from online forums. This is just another public melt-down by someone who needs professional help - but as she wrote, she won't go for it until everyone who has "wronged" her pays up. A real nutcase.

      --
      Let's call it what it is, Anti-Social Media.
    18. Re:Interesting: marketing. by thejynxed · · Score: 1

      I am starting to think this so-called stalker is her boyfriend or something. This wouldn't be the first, nor last time people have attempted this scam to bring publicity (and money) to their "cause".

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    19. Re:Interesting: marketing. by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 4, Informative
      A bit more research uncovered this thread. From her posts there, and the replies, it's obvious she's got a long history of cyber-stalking anyone she disagrees with. Her mother had her placed in a mental institution when she was 16 (her admission). When one music producer threatened to sue her, her response to them was "good luck getting any money out of a homeless person on SSI disability" (her admission).

      One example - she started a petition against a competitor in the music biz, claiming they were nazi white supremists, and blog-spammed it on a bunch of forums. When people started posting comments in the petition about how one of the band members is black, she deleted them, then finally deleted the petition, all the while continuing the harassment.

      She doesn't have a cyber-stalker. The whole thing was made up because she didn't produce what she promised when she got kickstarter funding a few years ago, and now that she wants to scam them again, she thinks that this will work. The real name for what she is trying to do is extortion, with kickstarter as the victim.

      Judging by how many people are so "OMG this is terrible shame on kickstarter" without doing any sort of reality check - not even seeing the obvious contradictions in the story she put out on her "I'm being cyber-stalked" page, it makes me wonder.

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      Let's call it what it is, Anti-Social Media.
  14. Kickstarts admin are idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This can lead to complete abuse (being able to shut down basically any and all projects at will) leading to the destruction of kickstarter. A simple solution would be to tie accounts to bank accounts/credit cards or whatnot, and have it verified by charging something like $0.35 (deal with transaction fee). That makes both the act of creating accounts and having accounts banned much more costly. Since this is a crowd funding program, this wouldn't be too much of a burden for the users are they will be dealing with money anyways.

    1. Re:Kickstarts admin are idiots by Tanuki64 · · Score: 1

      How many projects exist on kickstarter? How often does this happen? Heard the first time of such an incident. Maybe the blame lies on the other side?

  15. Re:Perhaps her time would be better spent ... by arth1 · · Score: 1

    Indeed. It is up to the police and judicial system to stop her stalkers, not her employer to accommodate it continuing.
    It's not like she hasn't been given time by her employer already, but at some point they have to put the foot down and say "no more".

    Yes, she's a victim. But she also seems unwilling to or incapable of leaving the role of a victim. I hope I am wrong, and that she pursues justice with as much vigor as the stalker pursues her, and that in 2012, the stalking will end.

  16. Appalling, but not actually surprising. by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm simply appalled that they would even SAY THAT. I'm not really that surprised though, as I've been on the receiving end of Kickstarter's questionable behavior as well.

    I submitted a Kickstarter for a generic USBHID interface board (For making game controllers and input devices, though it really had tons of applications) and they rejected it for no reason. When pressed for an explanation, they said "Kickstarter is for creative arts projects and [my] project did not fit."

    So, I guess having a DOZEN Kickstarters for Arduino clones going at any given time is okay, but if someone wants to make something that hasn't been run into the ground yet, fuck 'em! I mean, wow! I was only trying to get $500 together!

    --

    Friend: "The NIC is misconfigured..." Me: "No prob, I'll just telnet in and fix it." *Silence*
    1. Re:Appalling, but not actually surprising. by Windwraith · · Score: 1

      God d*mn, man. That DOES suck, a lot.
      For the record, I *can* think of a lot of uses for such a board (I want to power-mod my cheap android WM8650 tablet, and that's exactly what I need!). I would have donated. I'd love to know if you are able to get it up. I am not in a position for hefty donations but I sure will try to help, or purchase the end product.

    2. Re:Appalling, but not actually surprising. by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

      Wow, those look awesome. My boards were more input device oriented though, and the pricepoint I was aiming for was ~$30 for over a dozen inputs.

      --

      Friend: "The NIC is misconfigured..." Me: "No prob, I'll just telnet in and fix it." *Silence*
    3. Re:Appalling, but not actually surprising. by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

      I'll let you know when I take another shot at making the boards. ;)

      --

      Friend: "The NIC is misconfigured..." Me: "No prob, I'll just telnet in and fix it." *Silence*
  17. Re:First they came for the women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    First they came for the communists,
            and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

            Then they came for the trade unionists,
            and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

            Then they came for the Jews,
            and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

            Then they came for me
            and there was no one left to speak out for me.

    --Martin Niemöller

  18. Re:Perhaps her time would be better spent ... by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    not her employer to accommodate it continuing.

    Kickstarter isn't an employer, what are you talking about?

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    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  19. Re:First they came for the women by stewsters · · Score: 1
  20. Re:down by arth1 · · Score: 1

    Ah, the crowd mind. It never ceases to boggle the mind how the sum of us can be so more stupid than any individual.

    If you want to contact someone, contact the police and politicians, who are in a position to get the stalking stopped.

    Instead the hive mind wants Kickstarter to accommodate the stalker. How clever.

  21. Women card... Tanuki's law: She lost. by Tanuki64 · · Score: 1

    With so many women being stalking targets

    Kickstarter, throw her out, whether she deserves it, or not.

  22. It's her own fault by kegon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I think that Kickstarter could have handled it better; read the article on her website.

    She got spam comments and she replied to them. She claims that she was being stalked and she recognised the stalker: why reply ? Just report them. You're not supposed to feed trolls.

    It is clear the reason she got kicked off because she got interacted with the spammer and was part of the problem.

    And WTF is a "transmedia artist" ? She uses various media, multimedia ?

    1. Re:It's her own fault by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Funny

      And WTF is a "transmedia artist" ? She uses various media, multimedia ?

      She is a painter trapped in the body of a sculptor?

    2. Re:It's her own fault by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      A transmedia artist is a fucking bitch that thinks she's really fucking important and special because she can invent crazy names for the stupid bullshit she does. Just another case of an idiot that can press a few knobs on a synthesizer and calls that "music".

      Really, I can see how she can attract a few trolls.

      Anyway, I don't buy a single word of her story. She has been "cyber-stalked" for a decade? Sounds and looks like a total attention whore.

      I'll do her a favor and post her bullshit on /b/, now she won't have a "cyberstalker" anymore, she'll have millions.

      --
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    3. Re:It's her own fault by agent376 · · Score: 1

      Blame the victim? She hit the reply button and just said that he's a stalker; to please ignore him. And yes, she reported him. She addressed the problem to reassure her contributors. When did that become "feeding the trolls"?

    4. Re:It's her own fault by kegon · · Score: 1

      You only created your account here on slashdot to write comments on this thread and all of them are excuses. Yes, replying directly after a troll post and addressing the subject of the troll *is* feeding the trolls. Have you ever heard of PR ? When someone says "All MacDonalds food is unhealthy" they (MacDonalds) don't immediately make a statement saying "Ignore that guy".

      This girl is clearly an attention seeker. No one gets stalked for 10 years and not gather enough evidence to take some action.

  23. For all by tenverras · · Score: 2

    I know kickstarter is going to get a lot of negative feelings about this, but I can't blame them for their decision. Look at all the crazy lawsuits that happen and succeed... such as a person suing the owner of the house they are robbing, after they injure themselves during the crime... there is a chance that if they allowed a project to go forward, knowing that it could provide a new forum for cyberstalking against someone with a long history or it, then kickstarter risks a liability lawsuit.

    This isn't discrimination, it's just declining to serve a customer (which a businesses has every right to do) for a reason that has some merit to it. They don't want to be part of a bad situation and don't want to risk involvement or any form of responsibility for it. It sucks, but it's not unreasonable

  24. Re:typical female rational by Toad-san · · Score: 1

    I see. And the stalker who's actually doing all the spamming? Gets away free, right?

    Oh yeah, that's fair.

    Screw kickstarters and go somewhere else, or assume an alias.

  25. Re:typical female rational by redelm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know how "typical"/common-to-type, but I too smell a whiner. 10 years of cyberstalking isn't harassment, it is symbiosis. "Co-dependency" in PC-speak. I find it beyond incredible that a computer-savvy person would be stalked that long without identification and intervention by law enforcement.

    OTOH, any site that complains of spamming needs to require registration or grow a pair. The cost of allowing anon is some spam tolerence, or filters of some sort. Banning positive contributors (is she?) enters the death spiral -- rewarding bad behaviour.

  26. I don't want to live in this world anymore. by chr1st1anSoldier · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Seriously, I don't see what Rachel has done wrong here. The world sucks when a person is punished for being the victim of someone's insanity, insecurity, and inability to cope with the real world. When I read about incidents like this I don't want to live in this world anymore.

  27. Re:First they came for the women by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hey I have a guy that follows me around and vandalizes the building I live in. Can I stay at your place?

    Sure. I live in Texas. We have the Castle Doctrine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine I own several guns. Bring chips.


    Note that arrest is also possible.

  28. Re:First they came for the women by Mitchell314 · · Score: 1

    Just because you wouldn't do that doesn't mean there are those who would extend hospitality to friends and acquaintances in need.

    --
    I read TFA and all I got was this lousy cookie
  29. Re:Perhaps her time would be better spent ... by fafaforza · · Score: 1

    But it seems like kickstarter has a service that's vulnerable to a fairly simple attack. Unless this stalker controls a huge botnet, how much spam posts can he really make on their forum? Why not let her moderate her forum to see if it gets out of hand?

    And don't they have any sort of anti-abuse systems? Limit posts per day. Wait X minutes before another post. Per user limits. Per IP limits. Captchas. Moderated sub-forum that requires posts to be allowed. There are quite a number of options.

  30. Re:typical female rational by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

    "i represent an unbelievable PR opportunity to kickstarter in catching a criminal, and am surprised they are lazy"

    Actually, not that surprised.

  31. Re:What's kickstarter and why do I care? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unplug the fucking computer from the internet.

    I can't, it's wireless!

    --
    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  32. Re:down by fafaforza · · Score: 1

    And who's going to sit down with local PD detectives and spend 2 hours explaining to them how anyone can send an email as billclinton@whitehouse.gov and not actually be the former president?

  33. Re:down by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Instead the hive mind wants Kickstarter to accommodate the stalker. How clever.

    No one want Kickstarter to accommodate the stalker. How about they put a little effort into blocking the spam ? What kind of internet startup can't deal with a spam problem ? Blaming the victim because your system isn't set up to deal with abuse is out of order.

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    If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error.
  34. bs? by Frankiezzz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's very possible that this is all a bs story on her part and she's just whoring for attention.
    Kickstarter may have made the right call.
    Reddit uncovered some more info about her, that doesn't paint her in a very good light:
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3840589
    http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/s97g4/banned_from_kickstarter_for_being_a_stalking/c4c5j7r

    1. Re:bs? by Tanuki64 · · Score: 2

      Very interesting. And most of the /. crowd fell for it.

    2. Re:bs? by agent376 · · Score: 1

      The problem is her cyberstalker uses sockpuppet accounts to generate the perception of credibility by baiting and layering plausible narratives. He used to harass me too. http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2786853&cid=39688653 And no, I won't post using my real account because I'm afraid of him.

    3. Re:bs? by The+Wild+Norseman · · Score: 1

      Very interesting. And most of the /. crowd fell for it.

      Yeah, but she said she had a rockin' tight ass. Seems legit to me.

      --
      "A government is a body of people usually -- notably -- ungoverned." -Shepherd Book
    4. Re:bs? by jsepeta · · Score: 1

      I concur. So much drama, and possibly for personal gain.

      Someone said it best here:
      http://hackerstream.com/?item=3842355

      "After doing a bit of googling, I believe what we have here is a set of borderline personalities that are unfortunately drawn together. They have plenty of outlets for their antics; we shouldn't be indulging them here."

      After digging up information that purports the woman in question took Kickstarter funding then didn't send people the CD's she promised, it's quite possible the Kickstarter banned her for an entirely different purpose: FRAUD. So whether or not she is being stalked, Kickstarter aren't necessarily being assholes.

      --
      Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
  35. Re:Perhaps her time would be better spent ... by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

    Unless this stalker controls a huge botnet, how much spam posts can he really make on their forum?

    Do not underestimate the obsessive. Example, one dutch woman stalked a guy and called him 65000 times in a year :

    "A look at the statistical breakdown of the woman’s phone-calling habits sheds light on the multiple cellphones seized in the raid of her home.
    To reach 65,000 calls, the woman had to have called 178 times a day. That’s nearly eight calls an hour, 24 hours a day, seven days a week or one phone call every eight minutes, without ever stopping."

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    If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error.
  36. Re:Perhaps her time would be better spent ... by arth1 · · Score: 1

    Apologies for any confusion this might have caused.

    "Employer" has many meanings - it's not just the person who pays your wages or salary, but also who provides you with an opportunity to or facilities for doing the work, or supervises it.

    Those who use my software are in one sense my employers, and when I work on a project under the umbrella of a distro, they are in many ways my employer, for lack of a better word. They can request and OK my work, and certainly should supervise it.
    And stop accommodating me if I waste their time and resources.

    Is there a better word than "employer"? Probably - I may just have a brain fart here.

  37. Here is a relevant posting by the "victim" by thrift24 · · Score: 5, Informative

    As you all know I have a rockin' tight ass, a successful project on Kickstarter that you've all funded, and a cyberstalker that goes by the name of FrankSinatraDirtyTalker1915@comcast.net.
    I originally met "Frank" back in College, where we dated for a bit. I should point out that he's not an old man, as his username might imply, but rather someone who is simply obsessed with Frank Sinatra and my gorgeous rockin hard ass.
    Anyway, when I broke up with him he took it pretty badly. It was our Sophomore year at Rice University and I had just discovered gravity bongs and going down on another girl while blazed out of my gord. As I've admitted, these were confusing albeit fun times for me.
    Meanwhile, "Frank" was raised as a Mormon but had recently converted to Scientology. I guess you might say he was experimenting with his own hallucinogenic homoerotic drug. This drug/sex/cult cocktail, combined with my round pulchritudinous derriere, and the sudden shock of losing his ability to play his daily role of dressing up as Dr. Parnassus while gently fondling my perky nipples and supple breasts that he had affectionately named the Merry Mammary Sisters of Nippopolis, and Queens of the Breastiary - led to Frank's complete mental breakdown.
    I don't blame Frank for my rockin body, just as I don't blame you for being attracted to my intelligence and funding my project on Kickstarter. However, what I do not like is being stalked. I hope you all do what I do when you see Frank's messages on any thread related to my project. Just lick your index finger, point it at Frank's username and then say, "Ooooooooooooo ICE COLD! Mama thinks you're a BAAAAD BOYYYY! OOOOOO Ice Cold..." then point the same finger back at your left nipple and make a sizzling sound "SSSSSssssssssssss" and sing this little rap
    Thank you all again for funding my project on Kickstarter. You're clearly invested in a winner!

    also relevant:
    http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3840589

    1. Re:Here is a relevant posting by the "victim" by icebraining · · Score: 2

      How do you know this was posted by the same person, besides "Kevin-Roses-Left-Nut" word?

    2. Re:Here is a relevant posting by the "victim" by icebraining · · Score: 1

      You mean, like the dozens of Israeli Jewish people who convert to Islam every year? http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3274735,00.html

    3. Re:Here is a relevant posting by the "victim" by agent376 · · Score: 1

      This is copypasta generated by her stalker, who is the same person who has harassed me and several other people off and on for over a decade. http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2786853&cid=39688653

  38. Re:What's kickstarter and why do I care? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2

    How about you unplug your head from your asshole then?

    Wow, so tense, bro. Clearly you've never heard of this thing called "humor".

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    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  39. Justification on the part of the website by D.+Book · · Score: 1

    My first impression of the situation described in the summary is it sounds somewhat similar to a web host shutting down a user's account because their site was a magnet for DDoS attacks - a response which would be uncontroversial. Another analogy that comes to mind is the removal of users' comments in a discussion forum, following a legal threats to the site operator.

    The fundamental similarity in all three circumstances seems to be the website operator not wanting to deal with a website user's "baggage", as an earlier poster here termed it. But the next question in my mind is what the differences are in the Kickstart case. Notwishtanding the fact that it's "their site, their rules", is there a point at which nature of the "baggage" may be trivial enough to deal with (e.g. a user being targeted by a spammer, rather than a DDoS botnet) that it's fair to criticise the website operator for being too ready to wash their hands of the victim?

  40. Re:First they came for the women by Dodgy+G33za · · Score: 2

    With an average death rate compared with other states, the Castle Doctrine doesn't appear to be making much of difference.

    Nice law though - invite someone into your home, and blow their head off. Claim they had broken in. Profit!

  41. Re:First they came for the women by Luckyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't mean to be an ass, but that's a natural survival instinct. You don't get into the fight between people you don't know unless you see with absolute certainty that one is a victim. And even then, things are often not as they would seem from the first glance.

    That's what police is for in modern society. If you can stop the immediate fight, do it, but get authorities involved. Not yourself. Which is what the site in question did, it stopped the immediate fight by banning the account and informed the known active party (note that she actively participated in those spam threads) that this behaviour will be stopped and that she should not engage in it again if she doesn't want that fight being stopped by banning again.

    I honestly don't see anything done wrong. Sure, if it's really as bad as the woman says, it's terrible for her and she should go to the police and really file a complaint with copies of "child porn and infant rape fantasies" she claims she's being sent. But it's not other people's job to take significant commercial losses because she chooses to take the fight to their shop. They also have a right to conduct business without such fights

  42. Re:First they came for the women by Dodgy+G33za · · Score: 1

    You bloody trade unionist bastard!

  43. Re:down by arth1 · · Score: 1

    Stalking isn't the same as spam, trust me.
    Not jumping through hoops to do what a victim wants isn't blaming the victim.

  44. Re:First they came for the women by Fnord666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sure. I live in Texas.

    Cool

    I own several guns.

    That was assumed from the previous statement. In fact I thought it was mandatory.

    --
    'The tyrant will always find pretext for his tyranny.' - Aesop's Fables
  45. Re:typical female rational by Luckyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She makes claims that "police say he's too good for them and FBI won't investigate". Something I personally find very hard to believe considering she's claiming that he's systemically sending "her and hundreds of other victims child porn and infant rape fantasies".

    Someone who doesn't fuck up when massively sending crap like that to hundreds of recipients for a decade? That's inhuman. And on top of the cake, her letters with the moderators clearly state that she actively talked to this stalker on their site.

  46. Re:typical female rational by qwijibo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I find it completely credible that stalking could go on for a long time and that law enforcement wouldn't help at all. Many years ago my girlfriend had a stalker. He was leaving weird messages on her car at home and at work and showed signs of escalating like messages on her bedroom window, which was in the back of the house. We went to the police with the notes, a summary of when and where things had been done as well as the text of the law against stalking and they refused to take a report. Her employer didn't like someone coming on to their property to harass an employee, so they had one of their attorneys do all of the paperwork and force the police to take a report. The guy was identified and convicted of stalking. Stalking is ignored by law enforcement until after the victim is raped or killed, then it can be used as evidence of pre-meditation.

  47. Re:The 1st Amendment is being abused by Dodgy+G33za · · Score: 1

    Hey keep your stalkers and pedos for yourself. We have plenty of our own here...

  48. Re:First they came for the women by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

    Yes and no... It comes from a 1955 book about the rise of and life under the Nazi's.

    Wikipedia has a decent if superficial article on the phrase.

  49. Re:down by arth1 · · Score: 1

    I f I'm received at your house for dinner and someone comes knocking the door to threaten me, well, it's your house. You're the owner and entitled to defend it -- not a visitor like me. And no, it's no solution to push me outside so the stalker can go with what is wanted (btw, this would be very coward, like others say).>/quote>
    Not inviting you a second time unless you have had the problem taken care of seems to me to be a sensible thing to do. And what Kickstarter did.

    And not inviting you ever again, problem solved or not, if you weren't upfront about the danger to my home the first time around. Kickstarter hasn't been that uncompromising. I would be.

  50. Re:Perhaps her time would be better spent ... by fafaforza · · Score: 1

    Kickstarter should view this as a chance to build up their defenses, if the spam flood comes. When will they get around to doing that, when they've grown large, about to issue an IPO, or sell to someone? It seems to me that they're sticking their heads in the sand a bit in this instance.

  51. Re:typical female rational by interval1066 · · Score: 1

    Agreed. TEN YEARS of stalking, yet she has the time and means to crowdfund a project. Interdasting...

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    Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
  52. Re:First they came for the women by stoolpigeon · · Score: 1

    What they've done wrong - removing all morality from the issue - is what I've mentioned above. They've publicly declared that anyone can keep any other person (or people) from using their service. They've made it unworkable. Just think, if I was a nut-case and your reply right here put me off the deep end, I could keep you from ever being able to use kickstarter.

    I disagree with your framing this as a fight. Being stalked is not a fight. She says she's gone to law enforcement and they are unwilling or unable to stop this person.

    There could be more to this from either side obviously. And more information might change how I feel about this case - but beyond this specific instance victims of crime should not be further punished by others because they fear the criminal. That may be an instinctual response but it is ultimately more harmful. Handing the criminal all the power is not going to make them go away, it will just make things worse.

    --
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  53. Look Up in the Sky! by flyneye · · Score: 1

    Its a bird, its a plane, its maybe time for the EFF to jump up.
      They do this sort of thing, dont they?

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  55. Re:typical female rational by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    Yes, because we all know the cops will get RIGHT ON IT.

    it took a LONG time to get Mabus, a cyberstalker/harasser who went after prominent atheists. And only because he was prominent.

    If you're some person on the internet of little notoriety, good luck trying to get the authorities to do ANYTHING. It's not codependency if you're actively trying to get rid of this person out of your life.

    --
    Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
  56. Banned for feeding the trolls by tukang · · Score: 1

    TFA seems to imply that she was banned for "engaging" with the spammer (over 300 times!) and not for being spammed, so I think they're totally justified in banning her.

  57. Re:First they came for the women by Luckyo · · Score: 1

    You misunderstand. Talking back to the spammer actively is fighting. Not being passively stalked.

    She's former, not the latter, this is spelled out very clearly in her conversation with moderators.

  58. KickStarter is not the only player by QuasiSteve · · Score: 2, Informative

    KickStarter is not the only player - just saying.

    In no particular order (actually, alphabetical, but in no order of preference.. except for that of the alphabet.. nnngh!)

    boostive ckie crowdbackers crowdfunder eightbitfunding (games, not really applicable to your project) fundageek fundit fundry indiegogo investedin kickstarter peerbackers pleasefundus pledgie pozible quirky rockethub sponsorcraft sponsume ulule wefund

    There's more, but most of them are very 'fund-my-life' or are platforms that are quite deadish.

    And if you want to roll your own, give IgnitionDeck (wordpress plugin) a shot.

    KickStarter may be the most popular, but IndieGoGo gets a good chunk of traffic as well. That would be my second choice.

    I didn't find any information on your idea at your homepage, but if you'd still be interested in making it, make sure you put in shameless plugs in your comments.

    1. Re:KickStarter is not the only player by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

      Ah yeah, the website in my profile is just where I post dumb crap. :)

      I save http://tangibleimagination.com/ for more serious-ish stuff.

      I had IndieGoGo recommended to me when I related this issue with Kickstarter in the comments on a Make article. I checked it out, and upon finding out you could crowdfund business endeavors, and not just projects... I decided "Go big or go home!" and made a campaign to try and raise money for some machine tools. (Read: Confronted with the possibility, I lost all sanity and did something impulsive and nutty.)

      It proved semi-successful despite my bungling; I'm embarrassed to say it was rather spur of the moment, and the lack of preparation kept me from being able to adequately convey what I was offering...instead of just what I was trying to do.

      And right now, I'm trying to fix my #$*&$@ printer so I can take care of the large mechanical drawings I promised as perks. (While also continuing to learn how to use my metalworking lathe.)

      Luckily 90% of the donations came from people who know me on IRC and stuff so they get my awkwardness and will bear with me. ;)

      --

      Friend: "The NIC is misconfigured..." Me: "No prob, I'll just telnet in and fix it." *Silence*
  59. Re:Perhaps her time would be better spent ... by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

    I believe you have to contact your mobile provider to block the number meanwhile you can buy new pay-as-you-go sim cards in every corner shop for very little money and the woman, unsurprisingly, had several cellphones.

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  60. Re:First they came for the women by arth1 · · Score: 1

    Indeed, and posting a variant of it on a public forum is considered a variant of Godwin's law.

    Sometimes it may be appropriate, but most of the time (like here), it isn't.

  61. Re:Rachel by webmistressrachel · · Score: 1

    Oi, leave it out guys, ill be getting paranoid and shooting randomly at men with computers in Starbucks again....

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  62. Re:First they came for the women by Fished · · Score: 2

    I had occasion to fly into Ft. Worth some time back, and was struck by the fact that then, a couple of years AFTER 9/11, they apparently found it necessary to have signs instructing everyone not to bring their guns in the airport.

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    "He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
  63. Re:First they came for the women by Luckyo · · Score: 1

    Wait what the fuck? She personally KNOWS this guy? The guy who "is sending child porn and infant rape fantasies to hundreds of women"? Guy who is "too good for police to catch"?

    I call massive bullshit and obvious attention whore enjoying the attention.

  64. No, they are not - Re:Kickstarts admin are idiots by terjeber · · Score: 1

    They did the only sensible thing, and ban her. She's certifiably nuts. They didn't ban her because of her stalker. The OP should have researched this a lot better.

  65. Re:First they came for the women by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Talking back to a genuine, real-life stalker is a very bad idea. Stalkers are generally certifiably mentally ill. They have a delusion that involves the victim. Any contact, any attention, feeds that delusion. That's one of the reasons you show never engage directly with a stalker.

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    Got them moderator blues I blieve I walk out the do', With these mod-points I been gettin', I 'most never post no mo'
  66. Re:First they came for the women by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

    Profit my ass... You will be arrested, even in a justified shooting. The least it will cost is about $10,000 but it often goes to $100,000. My life is worth that much, but most of my stuff is not. And that was intentional. Taking life should never be easy...

  67. Re:First they came for the women by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

    It is how the law is written. If you do not have a specific sign, you can not legally bar concealed weapons from the premises.

  68. Re:typical female rational by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1
    Let's add some even more doubt to the mix.

    1: If he's so good and untraceable that the police can't track him down, how can anyone know he's been sending stuff to hundreds of victims? Each case will be untraceably separate.

    2: Stalkers are not indiscriminate. Genuine stalkers get fixated on a particular individual. Hundreds of victims isn't "stalking" it's just being a serial ar$€hole.

    --
    Got them moderator blues I blieve I walk out the do', With these mod-points I been gettin', I 'most never post no mo'
  69. Re:First they came for the women by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

    Here in Wisconsin you can actually bring a licensed concealed weapon into an airport, as long as they don't have signs prohibiting it and you don't try to take it past the security checkpoint.

    This is now true of any businesses except schools and some government buildings. It is actually legal to carry a concealed weapon into the capitol building, even while the government is in session.

    --
    If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits
  70. Anonymous Reader Indeed by ph0rk · · Score: 1

    Is it really possible to cyberstalk an attention whore?

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    semantics are everything!
    1. Re:Anonymous Reader Indeed by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

      So its ok? to punish people who like attention.

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  71. Re:typical female rational by msobkow · · Score: 1

    I know this is not the case in Canada. The RCMP can NOT refuse to let you file a complaint, though they may well warn you that it's unlikely to result in an investigation or criminal charges if that's their assessment of your complaint.

    But Canadian authorities can not and will not outright REFUSE to let you file a complaint unless you're drunk and ignorant or clearly in need of mental health treatment. It's part and parcel of Charter of Rights legislation that demands equal and fair treatment from the law and from government.

    Nor have I ever known anyone in the US who was similarly rejected when they filed a complaint. But I DO know of SEVERAL cases where the charges were dropped by the accuser after they "reconciled" with the stalking ex.

    That's one big difference here in Canada. Once you file a complaint, it's in police hands. You can NOT drop the charges because you aren't LAYING the charges -- the police do.

    --
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  72. No one is or has been stalking Rachel Mendelson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Rachel "Haywire" aka "Marone" aka "Mendelson" is a well known con artist, grifter and volcano of libel. She also collects an SSDI check for mental disability.

    Ms. Jaeger:

    It has come to my attention that Rachel Mendelson aka "Rachel Marone" aka "Rachel Haywire" aka "Transhuman X" may be allowed to use kickstarter again only 2 years after she took $3,000 with a fraudulent kickstarter effort. People are angrily posting on this page even as of a few months ago, and she has no plans to print the CD or to make any of the charitable contribution percentage she promised from this project. Please do not allow her to make any more kickstarter efforts, and defraud more people. Here is the page and the comments from people who never got their CD from her. By kickstarter's own rules, she should be required to return the donations at this point, not start a new fraudulent kickstarter campaign. She is very likely to start a new kickstarter account called 'Rachel Marone', be aware she is abusing kickstarter for financially fraudulent purposes.

    Here is the link to the project that never did anything but take money:

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/machinekuntrecords/sanity-is-slavery

    where you can see comments of complaint from its backers:

    "If you’re a backer of this project, please log in to read this post.
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  73. Trying for her second 15 minutes of fame? by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been reading her PR. It looks like she did a small arts festival, and wants to do something else. She's tried being in a band, writing magazine articles, modeling, and organizing events. But no one is paying attention. There's little about her written by anyone else.

    Sometimes she gets it right. Read her "John Galt is homeless", a brief reply to Ayn Rand. "We need to face the fact that Randian capitalism is no longer a way to advance oneself but a way to make oneself poor. The roles have now been reversed and it is no longer survival-of-the-fittest but survival-of-the-most-willing-to-please."

    I've met so many people like that in the SF art scene. They're wild, crazy, fun, and can't quite make it. They tend to end up bitter by age 35.

    1. Re:Trying for her second 15 minutes of fame? by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      She's not bitter. She's just crazy. She was all over the industrial music forums during her band phase with the same stalking stories. Like here, people said, "go to the police" while others want to help. She doesn't go the police and the more she says, the more her statements just don't add up. Eventually, she says something, usually about how some person is a nazi or stealing from her, and then somebody calls her on her bullshit. Of course, this feeds her feelings of being persecuted and she flips out. Rinse and repeat.

  74. Re:First they came for the women by kaliann · · Score: 1

    There is no proof that the comment was written by Malone. But we should attribute it to her anyway! Because!

  75. Re:First they came for the women by nedlohs · · Score: 1

    Obviously you only do it to black men.

    Apparently the police just take you at your word in that case. Of course you have to make sure the media doesn't get wind of it.

  76. Re:First they came for the women by Luckyo · · Score: 1

    The proof is popping up as we speak, more and more of it. I suggest reading the rest of the reddit in question, or just reading this slashdot post (not mine):
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2786853&cid=39685615

  77. File a police report by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

    Why cant she file a report with the police or even the FBI?

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  78. Re:typical female rational by jythie · · Score: 1

    That and she apparently knows the person IRL, so the whole idea that he is too good to catch is pretty implausible. It is more likely the stalker is a sock puppet she created to banter with.

  79. Re:typical female rational by jythie · · Score: 1

    Quite true, though in this case throwing kiddy porn in the mix would normally get the police's attention.

  80. Reasonable to whom? by holophrastic · · Score: 1

    Once again, this is not a public service nor a public right. If a private company like kickstarter doesn't or can't or chooses not to support an action which they believe will be ineffective (i.e. unprofitable), then that's the end of the game. There's nothing wrong with that.

    As for the conclusion that therefore she cannot growdfund anything, that's just stupid. There are other sites, and she can always roll her own. She's already got more publicity than I've ever had. Boo hoo that this one supplyer won't work for you. Move on.

  81. Re:First they came for the women by kaliann · · Score: 1

    I read the reddit post before I posted the first time, and it did not have a link to primary material. Therefor, it's a post on reddit not actual evidence.

    Could she be a self-aggrandizing drama queen? Sure. Likely she is. She might also be lying about how things are going down with Kickstarter. We'd need some more data to figure that out.

    Do we have a reason to believe that she posted the material quoted on reddit? Nope.

    I'm pretty curious to know if Kickstarter will block projects that get spammed/stalked. Aren't you?

  82. Re:What does being a woman have to with it? by Tanuki64 · · Score: 1

    Don't know. Why don't you ask her. I would have known from her name, but as you can see in the article, she had to stress it:

    With so many women being stalking targets this does not seem reasonable to me.

    With so many women playing the women card it seems reasonable to me to tell her: F**k you.

  83. Re:First they came for the women by Luckyo · · Score: 1

    Not at all. I see a project which got spammed with active participation of a project maker. Stalking clearly has no relevance to the the ban, and is only used as an angle to attack the site by the attention whore in question.

  84. What ever happened to waivers? by Karmashock · · Score: 1

    Some how modern lawyers are still suing people even though people signed waivers that should have protected them from liability. Simple things like people slipping on ice at an ice rink when there is a sign above that says "slippery"... Then the hot coffee situation where someone sued McDonalds because they burned themselves on hot coffee. It's just stupid. I'm sure kickstarter is worried about liability. That's the only rational reason I can think they're nervous about this... make this girl sign a waiver. Make her parents sign it. Make the f'ing justice system sign it so that it's made very god damn clear that if the girl is stalked and then gang raped by 4chan through kickstarter... it isn't kickstarter's fault.

    This extends to a thousand other issues in our society. If you sign a waiver... they're not liable. Period. Want to go hug a wild bear? Sign this waiver. If the bear decapitates you, then that isn't my fault.

    Just take some personal responsibility. If this girl isn't worried about being stalked then clearly she either wants to be stalked or isn't afraid. Absolve kickstarter of liability and then have fun with the drooling stalkers.

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  85. Re:First they came for the women by AlienIntelligence · · Score: 1

    She's a nutter, RTFA.

    -AI

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    For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion
  86. Re:First they came for the women by AlienIntelligence · · Score: 1, Insightful

    With an average death rate compared with other states, the Castle Doctrine doesn't appear to be making much of difference.

    Nice law though - invite someone into your home, and blow their head off. Claim they had broken in. Profit!

    Texas has a stand-your-ground law, like the one involving the Trayvon case.

    No need to invite anyone into your house. Just follow them around while talking
    to 911, then approach them, then realize you're getting your ass beat, then shoot
    them and claim it was self-defense.

    -AI

    Btw, I am NOT against Castle or Stand your ground... but I am against dumb
    asses causing so much politically charged news cause they couldn't mind their
    own damn business, or at least couldn't bring themselves to act as a proxy and
    eyes for law enforcement without taking physical actions.

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    For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion
  87. Re:First they came for the women by AlienIntelligence · · Score: 1

    Sure. I live in Texas.

    Cool

    I own several guns.

    That was assumed from the previous statement.
    In fact I thought it was mandatory.

    They assign them at the border.

    -AI

    --
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  88. Re:First they came for the women by jittles · · Score: 1
    That's actually not true, in this particular case. At least, not to my knowledge. I live in Florida, and the laws here are the same about having to post a sign barring concealed weapons, etc. However, Federal law makes it illegal to bring a loaded weapon to the airport for any reason, unless you are law enforcement personnel on duty, and ordered to go to the airport. The law has been in place for some time. It doesn't matter if they post that sign or not, they can still arrest you for bringing a loaded or concealed (on your person, not your luggage) firearm to the airport. I think they started posting those signs as a courtesy for state laws. Just to remind people that you should not do so.

    In Florida you can't bring a concealed weapon to any hospital, government building, school (private or public), and a few other places as well. In the case of schools, you cannot even have one concealed in your car in the parking lot without the permission of the school. Personally, I feel like the faculty of a university ought to be able to bring stun guns and other "non-lethal" weapons, but they cannot. Anyway, this is all off topic!

  89. Re:First they came for the women by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    What they've done wrong - removing all morality from the issue - is what I've mentioned above. They've publicly declared that anyone can keep any other person (or people) from using their service. They've made it unworkable. Just think, if I was a nut-case and your reply right here put me off the deep end, I could keep you from ever being able to use kickstarter.

    It could become a valuable tactic for completing companies. After all if Newscorp will hack competitors set top boxes and release instructions on how to watch for free in order to stamp out competition, many people will certainly post "nuisance comments"

  90. Re:First they came for the women by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    With an average death rate compared with other states, the Castle Doctrine doesn't appear to be making much of difference.

    Nice law though - invite someone into your home, and blow their head off. Claim they had broken in. Profit!

    Texas has a stand-your-ground law, like the one involving the Trayvon case.

    No need to invite anyone into your house. Just follow them around while talking to 911, then approach them, then realize you're getting your ass beat, then shoot them and claim it was self-defense.

    -AI

    Btw, I am NOT against Castle or Stand your ground... but I am against dumb asses causing so much politically charged news cause they couldn't mind their own damn business, or at least couldn't bring themselves to act as a proxy and eyes for law enforcement without taking physical actions.

    Just make sure that they are black and you are white, then you will have the support of the entire republican party (who secretly wish it was Obama who was shot)

  91. her critics are all ACs by bzipitidoo · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure what to believe. Perhaps no one? I have noticed a pattern here: The most trenchant criticisms are all posted by Anonymous Cowards. GP, who are you? Why should anyone believe anything you say? Why should anyone care?

    Could use some real journalism here, uncover the facts. Otherwise, all this is a waste of time.

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    1. Re:her critics are all ACs by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Facts have been largely uncovered by now. This woman is apparently a fairly well-known failure of a musician and attention whore who used "I'm being cyber stalked, the person posting a lot of nasty shit on the internet is not me"-excuse a lot of times in the past, from accusing people not giving her gigs to be nazis to not delivering on what she's been paid for and blaming it on anyone she could find that wasn't her.

      Accusations found here were apparently made on anonymous account specifically created for the purpose. Same thing on reddit.

  92. Re:First they came for the women by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

    --Martin Niemöller

    In a few years time we will be saying this about the Muslims. We allow them to persecute jews, gays, women, etc. because they appear to be an "oppressed minority"

  93. Re:First they came for the women by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unfortunately, she's lying.

    On her website, she makes 2 contradictory claims on the same page:

    As many of you know I am the target of a resentful/predatory cyberstalker who has over hundreds of victims. This guy has been after me for over a decade and is hiding in his basement to avoid being served with various restraining orders. (not to mention that thousands of people want him dead)

    and

    The hunt for my stalker continues yet has been unsuccessful as of now. The FBI having bigger fish to fry. The police say that he is âoegood at what he does.â

    So, the police can't track him down even though she has his address to try to serve him with restraining orders for 10 years? (never mind that you can't "duck" being served a restraining order for 10 years - you just go back to court, convince the judge that the person is actively seeking to not being served, they publish the notice in the paper that an order affecting them has been deposited with the court, end of story).

    This is so obviously a complete fake ... but let's now throw in this - from the same page

    to sending my friends and family infant rape fantasies about me

    ... so, cyber-stalker sends emails with what can be classified as kiddie pr0n, but no way to track them down even when you have the guys' address and sufficient cause for a warrant to search his computer? I'm not buying any of it.

    She used a new sock-puppet account to post this on reddit, and simultaneously submitted it anonymously here, as her latest self-promotion campaign, and/or to try to get kickstarter to let her do another project despite not delivering on her last one, even though it was funded.

    The problem of cyber-stalking is real enough. Just not in this phony case.

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  94. Re:First they came for the women by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 4, Informative

    Could she be a self-aggrandizing drama queen? Sure. Likely she is.

    Not just likely. She's been doing it for years and years ... http://www.side-line.com/side-line-forum/topic/beware-mentally-challenged-person-on-gothindustrial-messageboards#post-19422She accuses a band of being Nazi white supremists, starts up an online petition against them, and on the petition, deletes comments that point out one of the band members is black.

    And then this current round of self-promotion, spammed to reddit (the original post was a sock-puppet account, quickly deleted) and here (anon submission at the same time), with some lies about being cyber-stalked, which she describes here: http://experimenthaywire.net/is-there-a-solution-to-cyberstalking/

    On the one hand, she claims that the guy has been sitting in his basement for a decade ducking restraining orders (which isn't how it works); a few paragraphs down, she says the cops can't locate him. I'm sure the police have access to a street map.

    She got funded by kickstarter a few years ago, didn't deliver what was promised, and now claims that she was banned because she's been cyber-stalked. It's more likely that her history of over-the-top behaviour directed at so many people brought all the negative comments, and her "don't believe them, it's all from one crazy cyber-stalker using multiple identities and impersonating everyone in the music industry" was her way of trying to avoid the consequences.

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  95. Re:down by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    Except it's likely a fabrication and she's a con artist and a mental case.

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  96. Re:First they came for the women by kaliann · · Score: 1

    Interesting, thank you for the links. Sounds like she's a scammer.

  97. It's not all about her by Rix · · Score: 2

    Kickstarter doesn't accept all projects. It accepts those that are likely to succeed, and will reflect well on itself, and by proxy future projects. If her project is inundated by a stalker, then it doesn't reflect well on Kickstarter or its other projects.

    Now, what actions could Kickstarter take to rectify this?

    It could assign staff to moderate the project. Her project appears small, in the low three figures. Kickstarter takes only 5%, so their revenue is in the tens of dollars. A dedicated stalker can easily dodge automated blocking and tie up more resources than is financially viable for them to dedicate to her project. Thus, this is not an option.

    Kickstarter could decide not to accept pre paid/gift credit cards and thus prevent the stalker from simply buying a new, $10 card each time his account gets banned. Not only would this cost Kickstarter many orders of magnitude more than her project could bring in, it would marginalize millions of people who do not have another way to contribute to the communities that use Kickstarter, many of whom are already vulnerable people with little socioeconomic power. Clearly, this is not an option.

    Kickstarter could ban comments, or allow project managers to delete comments. This would stifle the communities involvement with the project, and potentially allow project managers to sweep legitimate problems under the rug. This would diminish the trust the public might be willing to grant other projects. It would be irresponsible to choose this optio Even requiring a credit card and a $1 contribution to commentn.

    That leaves the unfortunate final option to decline to host her project until the matter can be resolved. It most certainly is not her fault, but it isn't Kickstarter's either.

  98. Re:First they came for the women by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 1
    Mentally ill. She claims to be on SSI because of a physical disability, though that obviously hasn't prevented her from previously raising funds on kickstarter (though she never delivered), and from "touring" both in N.A. and Europe. File it under "your tax dollars at work."

    And like many people who falsely accuse others, she's oblivious to the fact that she is the one who has a history of cyber-stalking, though in this case, it's her attacking anyone who disagrees with her. Kickstarter is just the latest victim.

    In this case, she may have crossed the line into something more easily actionable than her past libels - using these tactics to try to get Kickstarter to allow a new project is extortion. One woman has already gone to jail for an extortion attempt involving multiple attacks against a firm using hundreds of web sites, forums, and blogs to try to ruin their reputation after they refused to do business with her.

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  99. I call bullshit on this story by DrStoooopid · · Score: 1

    ..have you seen her pictures? I wouldn't fuck her with Steven Root's dick, and Chirs Farley pushing. *blegh*....

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  100. Re:First they came for the women by Toonol · · Score: 1

    in Florida it is illegal to arrest somebody who has justifiably killed somebody.

    I don't believe that. That's nuts.

    If you do get arrested and are found not guilty, you can sue the state for costs.

    That, however, might be true. And if so, it might not be a bad thing.

  101. Re:Prove it by Skidborg · · Score: 1

    Woooosh.

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  102. He's harassed me too. by agent376 · · Score: 1, Troll

    I am also a victim of this guy. He harassed me off and on for years. He turned on me after I told him "no" when he asked me to do a favor for him I didn't feel comfortable doing. That was all it took to find myself on his shitlist. While we were "friends" I got to listen to him brag about all the horrible things he'd done to people, mostly women he dated, after they decided to tell him "no" or kick him out of their lives once they realized how crazy he is. He would show me how he was getting so-and-so fired from their job by spoofing emails with child pornography in them to the all@ email aliases of their employers from libraries and hacked DNS servers. He showed me how he made money selling pirated ebooks and sheet music on ebay. And he'd brag about using sockpuppets to build up fake credibility because it's all hearsay on the Internet where the credibility of consensus is only second to hard evidence.

    Don't fall for this guy's sockpuppet spam. This is exactly the kind of thing he was doing on Kickstarter, and has done on Reddit, Hackernews, here, Rachel's various blogs, and yes, all the way back to the days of Livejournal being the amazing mecca of social networking.

    His name is Jason Christopher Hughes AKA Michael Nath AKA Thylacine AKA antisense is over 40 years old. He's been at this game for a long, long time and has made social engineering an art form.

    Most of the posts in here that look like layers of confirmation of "facts" about Rachel are all the same person posting through TOR or I2P. If Slashdot admins were to verify the IPs of most of the other posts attacking Rachel, they'll see a wall of TOR and I2P exit nodes, just as any of us who have checked out the logs of his behavior in the past have been able to see. You let this guy brainwash you into believing all his propaganda against Rachel, and you've just weaponized yourself in his favor. Please do not. Keep an open mind. Use your critical thinking skills. Do not allow the emotional shock value of the propaganda to interfere with your thinking. I know it's hard. It's especially hard because Rachel is a very reactionary individual. She has that rockstar vibe to her, and she doesn't take crap from anyone. That makes her an easy target, clearly, because anytime the "moral high ground" seems a little shaky, it's a vulnerability in her defense against her cyberstalker.

    He's been stalking several of us for years. Most of us don't ever talk about him using our typical logins because he'll shit up the administration and our posts until we get banned. He's phenomenally good at turning people against his victims.

    Unfortunately it's hard to collect evidence against him. He only attacks maybe 10 or so people at a time. He's never going to become a priority for the FBI or local police because they either have bigger fish to fry or don't understand how to handle him in a way that his behavior can be documented. Making all of this public is a big push for all of us who he's been harassing for over a decade. We're tired of it. We want it to end. We need help.

    Not your personal army and all that, sure, but it would be nice if we weren't alone in trying to bring this guy down.

    1. Re:He's harassed me too. by stonemirror · · Score: 1

      I've also been stalked by Jason Christopher Hughes, and I can corroborate that he exists and that he's very difficult to track down. He's changed his name twice since 2004, first in Texas (to Manuel Luis Arsupial) and then in Washington (to Michael Rudra Nath). He's a transient and changes location multiple times a year as well. There have been criminal complaints made against him, by various people, in California, Washington, Texas, New York and other places, but — as people have noted — law enforcement doesn't make this kind of thing any sort of a priority. I had an active criminal complaint against him myself, in Merced County, California, from March 2010 to March 2011. I'm aware of no fewer than twenty different people who've been harassed by this person.

  103. Oh please by s0nicfreak · · Score: 1

    "With so many women being stalking targets this does not seem reasonable to me." Oh that poor, poor woman! We can not stand for this injustice against a woman! I mean, come on, she has a vagina! There must be something we can do!!

  104. Re:First they came for the women by agent376 · · Score: 1

    Yes, she's sometimes a drama queen, but her cyberstalker is *very* real. He's the same person who has harassed me off and on for around 10 years. I posted this earlier: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2786853&cid=39688653

  105. Re:typical female rational by The+Wild+Norseman · · Score: 1

    You're an idiot and should be kicked in the nuts.

    Now there's a project that many of us slashdotters would invest in!

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  106. why did the band prometheus burning get a TRO ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    why does the band Prometheus Burning complain that RACHEL IS STALKING THEM? HOW ABOUT THE MONTREAL KINETIK FESTIVAL, eh?

    Electric Hellfire Club / Terrorfakt Responds To Nazi Allegations

    posted May 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM by xFiruath. (1 Comment)

    Wilhelm Curse of The Electric Hellfire Club has checked in with the following statement about allegations that Terrofakt band mate Ben DeWalt is involved with Nazism:

    "For any of the fans of the EHC who are into rhythmic noise and hard industrial; some of you may have heard the escalating rumor that Ben DeWalt, my friend, co-conspirator, and the founder of Terrofakt, is a Nazi. This could not be further from the truth. Ben has been our close friend for nearly 15 years, and we know that he is anything but a white supremacist. For the last few years I have had the privilege to play with Ben, as a member of Terrorfakt. During this time, I have come to know Ben much better than I ever did during the years that he represented the EHC. He is my close friend, and comrade in arms. He is a proud patriotic American, who firmly believes in the values that this great nation was founded on... among those being that all of us are created equal.

    "My time with Terrorfakt has introduced me to many other associated acts and musicians, and to Terrorfakt's fanatically loyal fan base, all being of various ethnic and even religious backgrounds. Accordingly, I can categorically deny that any of these accusations have any merit to them. This smear campaign against Ben is perpetuated by an Industrial music outcast named Rachel Mandelson. She is more 'popularly' known as the idiot behind 'Experiment Haywire.' She is an individual who has failed to garner any success on her own, and has taken to making slanderous and libelous accusations against a much more popular and successful act, in order to gain attention for herself.

    "Her entire issue with Terrorfakt stems from Ben's refusal to peddle her merch at a music festival that she gained illegal entry to, thereby denying the performing bands (and promoter) their just compensation. She blames everyone but herself for her failure as a musician, and claiming that Ben has ruined her 'career' because of her Jewish heritage is her way of trying to garner sympathy through portraying herself as a victim, rather that simply a failure. I have long been a believer in the old show business saying of 'There is no such thing as bad press,' and to automatically confirm any rumor told about me (or the EHC) as being true. However, Ben finds the contention of his being a Nazi to be offensive, and clearing his name is of personal importance to him. To that end, I have felt the need to address the issue publicly, and to support my friend. I ask you, our fans, to help put a stop to this rumor, by correcting anyone that you hear repeating it, and to not support Rachel Mandelson or Experiment Haywire in any way."

    Kent
    Below is a repost from Kinetik Productions Inc.:

    Kinetik Productions Inc
    Montreal (Qc) Canada
    NEQ: 1164635469
    www.festival-kinetik.net

    Object : Rachel Haywire / machineKUNT Records / Experiment Haywire

    Montréal, November 29th 2009,

    Kinetik Productions wishes to bring to your attention the continual attack from Ms. Haywire against the Kinetik Festival and Kinetik Productions company image. Over the past 3 years, we have asked several websites to remove her harmful and derogative comments concerning the Kinetik Festival and the musical acts present during the festival.

    Unfortunately, she had made a personal business to attack the festival and some bands performing during Kinetik festival, without investigating the alleged facts. She tried to put down the festival based on her statements. The se

  107. Re:typical female rational by agent376 · · Score: 1

    This works great in "real" life, but it's so much harder to track someone down and prove a pattern of behavior because credibly *establishing identity* is *hard* when you're dealing with someone who works through sockpuppets and anonymizing services. If they can't document the problem, they can't really go after him without a willingness to commit resources to the cause, and really he's only doing this to a few people at a time. Small potatoes = low priority.

  108. Re:First they came for the women by The+Wild+Norseman · · Score: 1

    Federal law makes it illegal to bring a loaded weapon to the airport for any reason, unless you are law enforcement personnel on duty, and ordered to go to the airport. The law has been in place for some time. It doesn't matter if they post that sign or not, they can still arrest you for bringing a loaded or concealed (on your person, not your luggage) firearm to the airport. I think they started posting those signs as a courtesy for state laws. Just to remind people that you should not do so.

    Incorrect. There is no federal law that bans bringing firearms to airports, that's badly misinformed FUD you're peddling. Firearms control in the general access of airports is left to the state-specific laws; any firearms past the posted security checkpoints can happen with either a) you being law enforcement with special dispensation or b) you check your firearm in the luggage according to FEDERAL law and some airlines' regulations.

    Gee. There are federal laws telling citizens how they can fly on a plane with their firearms but, according to you, they can be arrested simply for showing up to the airport?

    As to you living in Florida, that's fine -- each state has their own firearms laws in general, but you're so wrong you're not even wrong when it comes to the federal firearms law.

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  109. She's got mental problems by Sketchly · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As previously pointed out, she has mental problems. My diagnosis: she's schitzophrenic, and stalking herself. Now go and read a proper story.

  110. Her stalker is manipulating all of you by vr00mvr00m · · Score: 1
  111. Re:First they came for the women by kaliann · · Score: 1

    You have a /. account created today, comment history only on this thread, and no way to verify your rather outlandish claims. Very similar to the "other" person claiming to be a victim. Troll harder, dear, no one is buying what you are selling.

  112. I concur :) by dgharmon · · Score: 1

    "Either it's a false story or kickstarter has a crappy system", TheLink

    I concur, going by her website I suspect it's an attempt to drum-up some business.
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    1. Re:I concur :) by Theophany · · Score: 2

      The whole thing is a scam. She's a weirdo that has created (or if not, enjoys the attention of) a 'cyberstalker.'

      It's run-of-the-mill attention whoring bullshit. On to the next...

  113. that is a piece of troll sh** by steve.cri · · Score: 1

    how can that be rated as "informative". There obviously is a bunch of troll brogrammers about.

  114. Re:First they came for the women by Luckyo · · Score: 1

    Well, hello there ms. "I created this account today, for purposes of trolling this thread". How did that work out on reddit et al for you?

  115. Re:typical female rational by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    the shit is so outrageous that it might be just her spamming her. really. because otherwise there would be some links about who the guy is, it's just so encyclopedia dramatica style shit as a whole. so, link proofs or gtfo - if you want to be ug that's how you do it, if she knows who he is etc. by now though she probably has a bunch of guys and gals just trolling her, because really that's what you're asking for when you're over analyzing what you are with stupid, stupid new age pseudoscientist terms, transhumanism, human 2.0.. the usual self appointed "i'm member of the newer wave of things and progressed further" fluff - because it is fluff, people have been recycling those basic themes already for so fucking long it's not interesting anymore, like theology in a sense.

    I mean, if she was just some chick selling knitted undies or something there that would be different thing, but for now her resume page is a 404. tats are niceish though.

    extreme futurist conf... something like that would get trolled by multiple "stalkers" the second someone linked it on any active board - no personal vendettas necessary, that's just what happens. call it modern socio theory or whatever but that's just what happens. eh. and this from a guy who is heavily into near future scifi, tech and even goth electro.

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  116. What happens when drama psycho meets stalker? by mbkennel · · Score: 1

    In physics, there are rare particle interactions which take place when a combination of individually rare things happen. They are called "forbidden" interactions, they aren't truly forbidden, they are just forbidden by the normal physics (e.g. conservation law) which governs most of of the transitions.
    It isn't frequent, but because Avogadro's number is so large, these forbidden interactions do occur.

    So, is that's what's happening now?

    A paranoid drama queen looking for publicity meets sociopath stalker?

    Profoundly mentally ill people may encounter one another every once in a while.

    We should get the particle detectors out, we may see a jet of high energy stuff. Maybe a Higgs will show up?

  117. and... Neil Gaiman weighs in on this controversy.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    neil gaiman is always having to stop eating his bran flakes and go untie some goth bitch from the railroad tracks...

    SAVE ME NEIL GAIMAN! SAVE ME!

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  118. I've tracked down "internet stalkers" before by epseps · · Score: 1

    I have given paypal donations to "anonymous proxy" admins (FDC servers) for logs, I have gotten account information from ISP helpdesks and I have helped police file subpoenas to legal departments located in-the-middle-of-nowhere USA. Once, I even traveled to Romania to chat with a hacking crew about the damage that they did and asked them personally to help me repair it (Romanians are really helpful and friendly and it was my pleasure to meet them).

    So I read the headline and said to myself "poor girl, ten years! that must mean she has had some very bad help in the past" So I dug a bit to get an idea about what might really be going on. I found the same stuff others here found but for some reason the one that really stood out was this

    http://alttherapy.experimenthaywire.net/

    "Alt.Therapy is a new (dis)organization for artists, mutants, mentally ill radicals, freaks in trouble, and anyone who is looking for help who does not support the brainwashing industry of mainstream therapy.

    At Alt.Therapy we define ourselves as post-sane. We do not want to conform to a central definition of reality. Yet sometimes people like us can get into difficult situations. We need people to talk to who think like we do who have been through similar experiences.

    I'm not a licensed therapist and don't offer a traditional cure to your problems but I offer an alternative form of therapy that will help you improve your life. Sessions range from 15 minutes to an hour and are based on your individual needs as a client.

    We don't force you to talk about your family history and refuse to ask "how does that make you feel?" Instead we ask the question "what does that make you want to do?" Then we help you do it. You provide us with a description of your main problem and we provide you with a counseling session that will help you change it.

    We also offer packages that include a list of bands with similar ideas, a customized playlist related to your life, an introduction to like-minded communities, a list of films that apply to your current situation, and a list of books to read that you will find mentally stimulating.

    Package 1: - 15 minute session - $20
    Package 2: - 30 minute session - $35
    Package 3: - 60 minute session - $60

    Add on: Lists of bands, films, like-minded communities, books written by people who think like you do, and a customized playlist related to your life - $20"

    So a non-therapist charges $60 to $80 an hour for, what seems to be, non-therapy.

    Seems like she is a petty con artist on many small levels and I am guessing this Slashdot article was part of it.

  119. Re:First they came for the women by AlienIntelligence · · Score: 1

    Texas
    In 2005 Texas passed House Bill 94[31] which created an exception to a 1973 statute,[32] which required a person to retreat in the face of a criminal attack.
    In 2007 Texas Legislature passed Senate Bill 378 which extends a person’s right to stand their ground beyond the home to vehicles and workplaces, allowing the reasonable use of deadly force when an intruder is:
    Committing certain violent crimes, such as murder or sexual assault, or is attempting to commit such crimes;
    Unlawfully trying to enter a protected place; or
    Unlawfully trying to remove a person from a protected place.[33]
    Senate Bill 378, made effective September 1, 2007, also "abolishes the duty to retreat if the defendant can show he: (1) had a right to be present at the location where deadly force was used; (2) did not provoke the person against whom deadly force was used; and (3) was not engaged in criminal activity at the time deadly force was used."[34]

    IANAL and law is about interpretation... I do interpret that to
    extend further than you take it.

    But I live in AZ, where it's not restricted, so I may be skewed.

    http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/SB00378F.HTM

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  120. Re:these people call "marone" THE STALKER by stonemirror · · Score: 1

    And this is a posting from Jason Christopher Hughes, who's decided to make an appearance in the comments section of this article on The Daily Dot: http://www.dailydot.com/business/kickstarter-cyberstalker-victim-rachel-marone/

  121. Re:I was stalked by stonemirror too by stonemirror · · Score: 1

    Another comment from stalker Jason Christopher Hughes. You can see more of the same in the comments section of this article on The Daily Dot: http://www.dailydot.com/business/kickstarter-cyberstalker-victim-rachel-marone/ This quote is manufactured, and appears nowhere on the web except for places it's been posted as a quote by some sock puppet ID or an "anonymous coward", like Mr. Hughes is right here. Check http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=victor+cypert+%22resident+computer+programmer%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 and see for yourself.

  122. Re:Slashdot and Reddit – Pwned by Serial Sta by stonemirror · · Score: 1

    Gee, I'm surprised you haven't initiated a civil lawsuit against me for intentional infliction of emotional distress. I'm not exactly difficult to find... And surely you wouldn't claim I'd done something like this without having a shred of actual evidence to support it...? Right?

  123. Re:this above comment was written by Travis Wicher by stonemirror · · Score: 1

    And the above comment was written by Jason Christopher Hughes, in yet another attempt to interfere with the employment of yet another one of his stalking victims.

  124. Re:First they came for the women by jittles · · Score: 1

    Federal law makes it illegal to bring a loaded weapon to the airport for any reason, unless you are law enforcement personnel on duty, and ordered to go to the airport. The law has been in place for some time. It doesn't matter if they post that sign or not, they can still arrest you for bringing a loaded or concealed (on your person, not your luggage) firearm to the airport. I think they started posting those signs as a courtesy for state laws. Just to remind people that you should not do so.

    Incorrect. There is no federal law that bans bringing firearms to airports, that's badly misinformed FUD you're peddling. Firearms control in the general access of airports is left to the state-specific laws; any firearms past the posted security checkpoints can happen with either a) you being law enforcement with special dispensation or b) you check your firearm in the luggage according to FEDERAL law and some airlines' regulations.

    Gee. There are federal laws telling citizens how they can fly on a plane with their firearms but, according to you, they can be arrested simply for showing up to the airport?

    As to you living in Florida, that's fine -- each state has their own firearms laws in general, but you're so wrong you're not even wrong when it comes to the federal firearms law.

    I said loaded weapon. I emphasized it for you again. You cannot, by federal law, bring a loaded weapon to the airport. Just walking in to the terminal building of any airport with a loaded gun is a violation. It doesn't matter where you have it, whether it is your luggage, or on your person. Yes you can travel via airplane with a firearm but it cannot be loaded. Please see 49 CFR 1540.111. I'll even provide you a link, so you don't even have to use Google: http://law.justia.com/cfr/title49/49-9.1.3.5.8.2.10.6.html

  125. On "Not Feeding Trolls" by stonemirror · · Score: 1

    Let's suppose that you had maintained a presence on a domain for a number of years, call it "stonemirror.net".

    Let's further suppose that a "troll" (more accurately, an online stalker and harasser) purchases the domain "stonemirror.org" and puts up a pro-NAMBLA web site with your name on it.

    That happened to me, and the person who's harassing Rachel Marone — Jason Christopher Hughes aka Michael Rudra Nath — is the person who did it to me.

    Suppose that someone set up a Facebook profile impersonating you, and attempted to get your friends and family to add it. Suppose further that he preemptively blocked your real profile, so you could neither see nor report it yourself.

    That also happened to me, and Jason Christopher Hughes aka Michael Rudra Nath is also the person who did that.

    What's the collective wisdom of Slashdot on dealing with such things?

  126. Re:First they came for the women by The+Wild+Norseman · · Score: 1

    Thank you for the link.

    Nowhere does it prohibit the carry of firearms except for the sterile (their word) areas of the airport. You are conflating the public areas of the airport with the sterile areas of the airport and, as I stated, they are considered two separate areas when it comes to firearms. Read your link again and pay attention to the term "sterile". Here's the first sentence without all the formatting; it might make it easier to understand:

    "Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, an individual may not have a weapon... on or about the individual's person or accessible property...[w]hen performance has begun of the inspection of the individual's person or accessible property before entering a sterile area, or before boarding an aircraft for which screening is conducted under Â1544.201 or Â1546.201 of this chapter..."

    The key phrase is highlighted. Again, any public area of an airport is governed by that state's carry laws.

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