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Workers Working An Extra 20 Hours a Week Thanks To BYOD
Qedward writes with the apparent downside of bring-your-own-device policies. From the article: "Many employees are working up to 20 additional hours per week unpaid as a result of bring your own device (BYOD) policies adopted by their firms, many of which have no security safeguards. According to the quarterly Mobile Workforce Report from enterprise Wi-Fi access firm iPass, a third of mobile enterprise workers never fully disconnect from technology during their during personal time The report also said that 92% of mobile workers 'enjoy their job flexibility' and are 'content' with working longer hours. In fact, said the report, 42% would like 'even greater flexibility for their working practices.' But 19% of mobile workers said their companies did not require security on smartphones or tablets to access work data."
Occasionally glancing at your cellphone while getting black out drunk with your idiot friends doesn't sound like work to me...
People keep losing their identity due to *how* computers have pushed society's evolution. We're all numbers now but not because that's how authorities preferred it. It's done out of necessity. There's simply too many people on earth anymore and the use of computers is always seen as a means to match this. Obviously, this bleeds down into our everyday jobs and because of this, is always taken a step further--especially by those who have no understanding of what some people are expected to do with their machines (i.e. - developers). Point being here is that this "extra work" is nothing new... Unfortunately. It has nothing to do with BYOD and everything to do with seeing people as tools instead of individuals.
If "did not require security" didn't make any sense to you, you're not alone. It looks like they actually meant "did not use our magic tiger-repelling-rock based product". The whole "report" is a slashvertizement.
Two excellent books which made me question why I had my email pushed to me, notifications popping up, looked at work email before I went to bed and so on. Switching email to "pull" (both work and personal, both mobile and computer), not having work email enabled on my phone unless I actually needed it, and minimising distractions ("silent" on my phone means no vibrations either — no distractions), I've found that I get a lot more done in a given period of time (may sound silly, but "Getting Things Done" did a lot for me here, too), and am generally more relaxed.
I'm a huge fan of being connected, but this experience has made me realise I truly value having connectivity available when I want it, rather than letting things rule me.
But 19% of mobile workers said their companies did not require security on smartphones or tablets to access work data.
Somehow I don't think 19% of mobile workers can tell the difference between http and https access to their corporate webmail, much less the intricacies of imap on port 143 vs imaps on port 993
Asking them is about as wise as asking the average man on the street if his blood is RH positive or RH negative and then basing your blood bank inventory plan on their random choices. I'm guessing the average moron would assume RH is a disease so you'd skew negative, but the actual population is mostly positive (exact value depending on where you live)
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The report also said that 92% of mobile workers 'enjoy their job flexibility' and are 'content' with working longer hours
Well done, what a great way to undermine your own wage and working conditions.
The time I wasted on my Bring Your Own Device's applications instead of working. 12 hours a day are my new norm (and leave the weekends for myself).
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Its the blurring of lines of what is work time and what is private time due to the always connected world we have become addicted to. When your "master" can summon you 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, no matter where you are.. guess what.. they will.
Its called my brain, and trust me, worrying about that bullshit when I leave the building should count as "additional hours".
On their private devices during employer paid time.
Sorry, but I work less with a BYOD requirement. IF you are too cheap to buy me an iPad you require, then I am going to screw off using that ipad during work hours.
Also Work more at home? I dont even answer the bosses phone calls in the parking lot 3 minutes after I leave.
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I don't do BYOD in my business. I in fact encourage my employees NOT to work on their own time. Having adequate time with work out of focus makes them happier and more productive when they are at work.
But 19% of mobile workers said their companies did not require security on smartphones or tablets to access work data."
Of course not, that would eat in to IT's youtube time!
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How much time does the average worker spend on personal things while at work? Checking personal email, personal phone calls, surfing the web and playing games during non-break time? They may not consume 20 hours of work time doing these things, but they are being done.
Maybe you won't have to bring your work home with you if you do your work while at work.
--- Keep the choice with the user..
Users never seem to be able to see past their noses when wanting to use personal gadgetry for work.
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Gee Wiz. When IT stops putting up obsticals, people can actually get work accomplished. Who'd of thunk it.
Aw, whoseums confuses longer hourses with more productivities? You do! Yes you do! Wuzzle wuzzle wuzzle.
You're so adorable, with your wee little toes and your backwards ideas about working productivity. I could just eat you up!
They should just be honest and call it MARFYOB.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
How do you propose to keep company data private?
If you have a work-issued machine, the lines are clear: Work stuff is on the work phone/laptop/whatever, and it's password protected. Home stuff is on your device.
If it's BYOD, and Junior wants to play games on you iPhone, you just handed him a device that has your work stuff on it. If it's your own device, it's much more likely to be less protected and touched by more hands than a work device.
All those stories on the /. frontpage about credit card numbers stolen? They start with little leaks, and then the attacker wiggles his way in.
BYOD is a disaster.
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Bullshit.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
When it becomes trendy to work long hours, employers start to require it. Then, I have to work those same long hours, because there are no jobs where a proper work/life balance is respected.
Thanks a lot, you damn busybodies!
Actually this. 1000 times this.
We had an individual in my office. For the sake of this story, we will refer to him as "Fuckwit".
Now, Fuckwit came in to work 7 days a week, and roughly 12-14 hours per day. He was paid a standard 40-hour-workweek salary, and effectively then volunteered 60 hours more a week.
This became the standard against which the rest of the staff are measured. Fuckwit is doing it, why the fuck can't you? Fuckwit needs you while you are on vacation....fuck your vacation, do what Fuckwit wants of you. Never mind Fuckwit is a single male with no girlfirned, no kids, no social life, whatever. Fuckwit has set the bar.
Today, Fuckwit is on a 2 year sabbattical because (from what I've heard) he hit the wall and burnt out to shit. But guess what? He set the fucking bar, which we still to this day fail to measure up to. Management could care less that it destroyed Fuckwit, requiring a massive sabbattical...they got 3 1/2 years of 100 hour workweeks out of him before that happened.
Now, multiply Fuckwit across America. Millions of Fuckwits who are "lucky to have a job at all" working double the hours they are contracted (and often paid) to do. So suddenly, we have millions of Fuckwits doing the effective job of 2 people....where the company SHOULD be hiring 2 people, but why the fuck would they when there is Fuckwit who will do it anyway.
And then we wonder why unemployment is shot to shit right now. Of course there are hardly any fucking jobs being created, because they keep making US do the work for a job that SHOULD be created.
In other words, fuck every last one of you Fuckwits out there. YOU are fucking us all. Personally, I hope the stress eats you up inside till you have a mental breakdown or a fucking heart attack. THen these companies might actually have to, you know, hire the appropriate number of staff instead of fucking us all.
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Okay im going to assume this is in jobs where you are not being paid hourly (since the Wolves at the DOL find extra hours without extra pay "interesting")
1 are companies actually paying for the extra "on call" time?
2 do they also realize that your response time may be impaired if you can't stop and sit down to do X?
3 are they just using this to comp for "dead times"?
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this would suck.
I am currently in an environment where long hours and constant availability are required, but it is great. I dont have to sit a round the office with nothing to do. I come in around 10 to 10:30 most days which allows me to do marathon training runs in the morning. I have 2 days with 9 am meetings, and I work those into my life. If there is nothing going on in the afternoon then I can leave before 5. I may need to make production changes around 8 or 10 at night, but those are not so bad as the kids have gone to bed already, and I actually got to see them and eat dinner with them. I dont even have to check email and stay in constant contact, as they took a page from the 80s and gave me a pager for required contact situations ... i didnt want MY phone that I pay for hooked into their security, so we compromised.
Not every place is like this, but the few nights of odd hours actually fit into a balanced life as I dont have to just attend the office for the appearance of being available on everyone else's hours. My responsibilities are a bit different, and management has recognized that my value can be better used if spread out, and has gotten greater time coverage of my skills at a good trade off. I have had plenty of jobs where I wasnt required to be available as much where somehow the normal day prevented me from having time for my own interests.
I've been on call since last October.
I get $50/week for it.
It's kind of lame.
I wasn't able to start taking vacation again until about 3 months ago, and even then I was required to always be in cell coverage areas, within 10min of an internet connection and carry a company laptop with me at all times. I once had to remote in from a pontoon boat while tethered to my cellphone.
What the hey 20 hours...
If you are part time that takes you to full time.
If you are full time that is a 60 hour week and
should be getting compensation for the hours
beyond 40. It is the rare person that is truly
exempt from overtime if the boss calls at random
time to see if you answer in a sliding 12 hour
window.
Keep a call log.... normal bills will do. If the boss is
calling and checking on you he is in effect posting extended hours and
you should be compensated. If he leaves a demand
for prompt action outside of normal business hours....
The dam OCD fast twitch caffeine over loaded ADD kids that so quickly
get into middle management will cost the company good employees
or big bucks. They look at their smart phone like a Gameboy
and your are some little sprite gathering power points and gold coins
for them.
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Completely agree with this. Problem is, management typically looks at Fuckwit no differently then they look at a printer. Oh, burnt out the fuser? No problem, just go get a new one. Lather, rinse, repeat as necessary.
BYOD should be amended to mean 'Bend Y'ass Over, Dude'.
I was once asked by my boss to come in on the weekend, which turned out not to be an emergency, just routine work that could have waited. I double checked my contract, and found I could be paid overtime. So, come Monday I submitted my claim for overtime. The boss never paid me, but I also never got called on the weekend to do routine work. Worth it, consider the hours others were being expected to do
I wouldn't "happily" work more if I were making salary. Salary is based on a 40 hour work week. So by the end of the year the overs and unders should average 40 hours a week. Most companies don't see it that way. It's just a way to get around labor laws.
Since I get paid by the hour I work as much as I need to. I have a couple clients that want to make me salary and I'm going with "no" on that. Working from home, making my own hours and having a direct correlation between time and money seems to be ideal. Right now I can't go over 40 a week with a particular client because it would be time and a half by state law where he's at. Somehow, I don't think that would be a concern if I were salary. That's just business. So I do business differently.
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Disable work email from my personal devices, redirect unknown phone numbers to voicemail (including "unknown" phone numbers), block news sites by way of adblock on my computers, shut down my computer when not in use (so I think twice about turning it back on), cancel cable service, put my cellphone on vibrate, go for walks, do some physical labor, engage in hobbies that mix what I enjoy with something physical like robotics. I am more relaxed during my personal time by disconnecting from the outside world and focusing on something outside of my mind (something that is not conceptual or virtual). There is definitely something about balancing personal and interpersonal time and internal and external engagements to create a healthy existence.
some places have the walmart attitude of no OT and work off the clock to get it done.
Even hourly contract jobs some times have the don't even thing about putting down OT hours.
Have you ever been unemployed before? Have you lost your wife over it? Have you had to move back in with your parents in your 30s because 12/hr is all employers now think you are worth in this new economy disregarding your previous salary? Have you ever been forced to work 70 hours a week with 2 jobs so you can pay off your student loans and not starve yourself or family with 2 crappy jobs?
That realty is how what 40 to 50% of Americans live. Underemployment and unemployment is about 20% if you use the U3 statistics before CLinton took office!
Sorry to burst your bubble but in this economy anyone who lived like that such as myself is thrilled to be working again and will be happy to do it if you do not feel you are good enough. I made a decent living before the economy crashed and lost my whole damn life and years trying to get it back. There are millions like me and when the economy improves then yes I will tell your boss to shove it. But you can not expect people who feel 50k a year for merely 60 hours a week of work is not paradise when you work 80 hours a week for 23k a year. H1B1 visa holders will gladly work these hours too.
I am not saying I agree with this but it is life and what I agreed to work for when I signed up for my consulting gig. I get paid by the hour so working a million hours for 2 years until I can prove myself will be the norm. It is time to re-adjust and accept that in this economy this will be the norm. When the economy and only if it improves will you be in a position to tell me and your boss to fuck ourselves.
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I get paid by the hour
Then sorry, but you're not even remotely what I described.
Whether 12/hour or 50/hour, you are being paid for every hour you work. I...and "Fuckwit" from my story...are not.
Life sucks. This economy licks ass. No, I haven't gone through the hell youve described, and (knock on wood) I hope I don't ever have to. I sincerely wish that you hadn't either.
But back to the original point....if you are working 80 hours on a salary-only position (or have an employer that refuses to pay OT even if legally required to), then you are a fuckwit, and you are directly contributing to this economy continuing to suck. I mean fuck, honestly, do you understand why the economy continues to suck 3 years after the economy tanking? I'll give you a hint....its the ~8% (documented) unemployment, with a true rate likely somewhere between 15-20%.
If you have 15-20% of your able and willing workforce not making anything...and then not spending anything...which means that corporate revenues are down...which means more bastard CEO's preserving their personal/shareholder bottom line over that of the whole...which means more layoffs to satisfy thier personal incomes...which means a higher unemployment...which means more people not making anything...and the circle goes on and on and on.
The bastards and fuckwits and losers out there that are so thankful to be working that they're doing ANY unpaid overtime is directly contributing to this cycle. Government regulations (well, to be more percise, the lack of regulations & this giant conserviative push to destroy the unions) is only making it easier for corporations to get away with this shit. We're not only fucking ourselves right now, but we're fucking our kids...our grandkids...to this level of corporate slavery.
This ISN'T the norm. This shouldn't be the norm. But as long as there are these losers willing to effectively do 2 people's work, with 2 people's hours, for 1 person's salary, then yes, you're right, we're all fucked and this WILL be the established norm...not just for when the economy sucks, but for all fucking time. Freedom, power...that which is freely given away will never be returned.
Don't give yourself away people. And seriously...if you do....don't bitch at me when you drop of a massive heart attack & lose everything because you have to spend a month in the hospital & your boss replaces you with another moron willing to drive himself to an early grave. You dug your grave....fucking lie in it slave. I have no sympathy.
Honestly, one of the only ways I can see to fix this is unionization...and I fucking hate unions. But unless we are all willing to stand together & demand this gets fixed (and if they don't fix it, fuck em. Good luck meeting shareholder expectations if you have no workforce). But that would mean that people would actually have to think outside themselves as one individual....all the "me me me look at me my situation is different I'm special I have to do this blah blah fucking blah" has to go away....and we all know THAT will never fucking happen.
Honestly...I feel for my kids. My work life sucks, but isn't downright festering shit yet. Their generation? We're laying the foundation for them to be nothing but slaves to corporate interests. Quite frankly, I'm disgusted by the greed.
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The way you describe it your "long hours and constant availability" job has rather short flexible hours and the constant availability is never abused.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
I've been thru all this and more. Last time things tanked this hard, I was a young dude fresh out of school. No life, so I worked insane hours. Thinking, it will get me a good reputation, etc. And trickle-down will happen... 15 years later, management was still wanting me to work like that , even tho my health was gone. The work orders were booming, economy was great, and the only thing that trickled down was the piss.
I'm no Republican any more. Nor am I so idealistic (and stupid) anymore. Its not my job to make somebody else rich (they were billing me out at a 100x ratio).
Fuck em.
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Hey, I am one of those fuckwits! Okay was, I just put my notice in. Yeah I often worked long hours, honing my skillset and well the rest of my team disappeared. Now I am doing the job of three people, I am leaving for a straight 40 hour a week developer job where OT is paid at time and a half (and the people I have talked to at the new job said 40 hours is the norm with sometimes maybe needing to work 41 - 42 hours a week but that is seldom). Guess what? The two others on my team are not up to snuff and I had been telling them for a year now we went from 5 developers down to 4 then all of the sudden I was solo then we hired 2 more ppl who were not at intermediate level let alone Senior like me due to the 'cost' of local talent and we need to get more people!
Now? They have three consultants coming in to back fill my position (next week is my last week) - at what cost? More than they fucking are paying me and I told my director, dude you know why I am leaving? To get my fucking life back! I have a wife and a child who I do not get to see as much as I want. See you put all your eggs in one basket even though I was telling you we needed more people and now guess what? You're paying extra for consultants!
I am one of these dudes that just has to get the job done and guess what? I was at burn out level, I took 2 weeks earlier this year and came back relaxed which lasted a day at most before insta-stress back. Sometimes we get hung up on getting the job done and do not realize we're getting fucked until we get to the point of snapping.The issue is, we are told to work hard as children - work hard and the rewards will come to you. Uhhuh, not anymore! Not even certain it ever was - but it is an easy thing to get hung in, especially if you like what you are doing and it is very easy for companies to manipulate you in to doing it through minor rewards etc.
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Latest? Actually, if you want to be the "latest" you should send your email at exactly 8:01 AM.
One of the things that sort of nutty about email is the earlier emails get read last, just because of the sorting.
If you send a series of emails in which you patiently explain a bunch of things, and then in the following emails, you go into detail on some of those subjects, your readers will get the detail emails first (in their sorting).
Reading those will make them go "Huh?".
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Why would you interrupt the reason you work for more work.
Family.
They are the only people in the world that will care about you when you can't work any more. If you are carrying a phone for work you are doing it to feel needed.
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