GoDaddy Goes Down, Anonymous Claims Responsibility

An anonymous reader writes "A member of the Anonymous hacktivist group appears to have taken down GoDaddy with a massive Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS). The widespread issue seems to be affecting countless websites and services around the world, although not for everyone. Godaddy.com is down, but so are some of the site's DNS servers, which means GoDaddy hosted e-mail accounts are down as well, and lots more. It's currently unclear if the servers are being unresponsive or if they are completely offline. Either way, the result is that if your DNS is hosted on GoDaddy, your site may also look as if it is down, because it cannot resolve."

Comments

This is big

[Terry Pearson]

I was just noticing the large number of sites that are down. I hope it gets resolved soon!

Re:This is big

[Anonymous Coward]

I hope they lose a lot of business from it. GoDaddy is an aweful company.

Re:This is big

[Riddler Sensei]

I hope it gets resolved soon!

*bah dum tish*?

Re:This is big

[houstonbofh]

There has also been a huge reduction is spam and crap e-mail on technical mailing lists. So I am kinda mixed on how soon I want them to fix it.

Re:This is big

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm awe-filled by how sleezy they are.

Re:This is big

[Hentes]

There's not much hope, as now Slashdot have also joined the attack.

Re:This is big

[noh8rz10]

godaddy.com works for me. probably just a bunch of script kiddies.

Re:This is big

[interkin3tic]

I was wondering what the "+5 funny" mod was about...

Re:This is big

[alexandreracine]

Karl Otter and Vallace Berry must be working very hard now!

Re:This is big

[Anonymous Coward]

If you sleep with a whore, you can not complain if you get syphilis.

Re:This is big

[CptNerd]

Except it's your crowd that's giving *everyone* HIV, no matter how you try to justify it.

Re:This is big

[theArtificial]

they may be aweful, but the hosted email has been damn decent for the 4+ years I've been with them. I've always sort of snickered at the shit anonymous did, but now their vendetta against a big company fucks us little guys too.

Please don't misconstrue this as support for Anonymous' actions. You seem to forget that SOPA would fuck the little guys, too. Perhaps you've forgotten who supported that legislation, and why Wikipedia and many others (including myself, a customer for over 10 years) have left GoDaddy.

Re:This is big

[DriedClexler]

What if I use a latex condom?

Re:This is big

[NSN A392-99-964-5927]

What if I use a latex condom?

Use a C4 condom instead insert detonator and you will get the bang of your life.

Re:This is big

[DriedClexler]

One time I actually had this bizarre dream about "luck-o'-the-Irish" brand Irish condoms whose "selling feature" was that some of them would explode when used, but you have to "expect" that it won't happen to you because "by some bizarre logic", you "got lucky".

Re:This is big

[ryanov]

I left too, and therefore was unaffected.

Re:This is big

[ryanov]

I'm on the board of a "small business." We left, and were therefore unaffected.

You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

Now you jerk faces are affecting actual Interstate commerce on a massive scale. My own website is down. If you didn't get the attention of the FBI before, you have it now.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[i286NiNJA]

Hate to blame the victim but why on earth are you using godaddy who supports anyone having the ability to take your website down?

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

What information are you basing this one? GoDaddy itself does not appear down. This appears to be a DNS exploit. That would put .... oh I don't know... every single host on earth at risk.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Aqualung812]

His point is that GoDaddy supported SOPA, which allowed companies to shut down websites on a whim.

If you continued to support GoDaddy after learning about this, then it is assumed you're fine with people's websites being shutdown for no good reason.

Therefore, why are you upset now?

You're the roofer on the Death Star. You knew the risks.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[h4rr4r]

You could host your own dns, like a big boy.

This is what happens when you push everything out into the cloud. Somedays it rains and there ain't shit you can do about it.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[i286NiNJA]

You misunderstand. Godaddy supported SOPA. Essentially they support anyone claiming to be a content owner taking your site down for infringement while the claim is investigated. Why not go with a better cheaper provider anyhow?

Re:You think this is a Game?

[h4rr4r]

Citation needed

Perhaps a link to a document on their web site :)

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

You are right, I could. I don't sit on mutiple ISPs in a SAS70 rated datacenter with diverse physical location redundancy and power backup. So I let them do it. It would be trivial for me to move my DNS records. That totally misses the point. The hacking is causing loss of productivity. I know this is funny to you but for the people affected it is a giant waste of time and nothing will be accomplished by it.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[achbed]

On top of that, you didn't read the TOS from GoDaddy. That allows *them* to turn your site off on a whim without prior notice. This might just be the hackers turning on the built-in kill switch for every GoDaddy site simultaneously.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[h4rr4r]

You don't, but if you did your DNS would still work.

I think it is bad that this happened, but this is what you get whenever you put your eggs in one basket.

It is not funny to me, other than finding out what companies my company does business with that we clearly should not be since they let godaddy host their DNS.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[sohmc]

I highly doubt that they didn't know the details of the bill. The bill was available via Thomas and it's broad strokes were known for quite some time.

GoDaddy wanted to placate the MPAA/RIAA/etc because it was a business decision. Once they realized that they had a massive exodus of customers, they made the business decision to reverse their stance.

Their decision had little to do with knowing the bill. Their decision was made because it was the fiscally responsible thing to do. They probably didn't predict that the fallout would be as drastic as it was.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[i286NiNJA]

So since people stopped caring about SOPA it's not a big deal now? It's getting pushed through piecemeal. I'm gonna laugh when your precious website can't be reliably hosted anywhere in the USA.

Lesson is: Don't do important business with losers.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Aqualung812]

So, you thought giving your domain name to a bunch of clowns that support laws that they don't understand was a good plan?

Doesn't seem to be working out good.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Sulphur]

What information are you basing this one? GoDaddy itself does not appear down. This appears to be a DNS exploit. That would put .... oh I don't know... every single host on earth at risk.

The Web is falling, the Web is falling, and I have a piece of it right here.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Cinder6]

Well, it explains why my podcast app didn't update my favorite podcast--just ran a whois to confirm that they're hosted on GoDaddy.

What's obnoxious about something like this is that the attack isn't likely to get the attention of the general public. Most people will see their favorite site is down, say "Aw, shucks," and check again later. The news likely won't even mention this, what with election season going on and giving them better yellow journalism fodder. The people who will know the reason why some of their favorite sites are down are like those here on Slashdot: The same people that already dislike GoDaddy.

I'm not saying that protest is a bad thing--far from it. But ineffective protest is. All this attack accomplishes is to hurt the little guy--the people who use GoDaddy.

But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe GoDaddy's customers will all jump ship because of this. I doubt it, though.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

Considering their website stayed up during the whole attack, your joke fails. http://support.godaddy.com/godaddy/statement-about-sopa/

Re:You think this is a Game?

[MachDelta]

You're the roofer on the Death Star.

B-but... it's a sphere? How? Where... does the roof? I... i'm so confused.... Shouldn't he also be the, uh, waller... and flooring guy...? My childhood... crumbling... Nnooooooooooooo!

Oh well, at least I still have Clerks...

Re:You think this is a Game?

[h4rr4r]

But no one could get to it, so it does not matter. The link would still be non-functional which is all that matters for my joke.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[houstonbofh]

You know that you can have DNS in two totally different places, right? Even three of four!

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Aqualung812]

:)
Thanks, I actually LOL'd at your comment.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[cjjjer]

And how in your brain is Anonymous forcefully taking down websites based on their ideals any different than the Gov. using SOPA to take down websites?

Pot meet kettle, Hey! We're both black who-da-thunk!

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Capt.DrumkenBum]

Hammers are used to bash peoples heads in, so I still buy them.
I prefer my version.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bob9113]

Their decision was made because it was the short-run profiteering thing to do.

There, fixed that for ya. The fiscally responsible thing to do is to ensure the long-run fitness of the United States and global economy.

The MPAA and RIAA are pushing for increasing the strength of their regulatory monopolies to channel a larger share of GDP into their products, which shifts us further out on the cultural supply curve. That increases units produced and per-unit price, which has the effect of increasing cultural production while reducing the per-unit cost efficiency. That would be a good thing if we were suffering from a shortage of cultural production and the economy was running strong. Since we are on the opposite side of both those balances at the moment, however, supporting that agenda to curry their favor is short-run profiteering -- not fiscal responsibility.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[fafaforza]

So they take you rinky dink website down by taking down the websites of all of their customers? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

Wouldn't I have to update my records for each server independently then each time I made a change?

Re:You think this is a Game?

[InvisiBill]

His point is that GoDaddy supported SOPA, which allowed companies to shut down websites on a whim.

If you continued to support GoDaddy after learning about this, then it is assumed you're fine with people's websites being shutdown for no good reason.

Therefore, why are you upset now?

You're the roofer on the Death Star. You knew the risks.

Actually, his point is probably that GoDaddy's policies, regardless of SOPA/PIPA support, allow them to shut down websites on a whim. They've repeatedly demonstrated this by completely shutting down entire accounts when served a DMCA complaint for one site. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/05/25/1744246/photographer-threatened-with-legal-action-after-asserting-his-copyright is one example. (Part of the reason she went crazy was that all of her sites, including one regarding special needs children, were suspended after GoDaddy received the DMCA complaint over one photo on one specific site.)

GoDaddy has made it clear that it takes very little to convince them to suspend a customer's entire account. If you choose to use GoDaddy's services, that's a risk you're taking.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[X0563511]

That might have mattered back when SOPA was still a thing people cared about.

This right there is why this stuff is so insidious. We have to be vigilant.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[i286NiNJA]

I was giving good business advice actually, most of the time when I lose money it's because I wasn't selective who I trusted. So it's my fault for losing money because I trusted a moron with business.

Also good job with the rape out of the blue.. why don't you throw in some nazis and compare me to bush while you're at it. You're like the idiot who shops at wal-mart... except with best buy prices and customer service.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[X0563511]

Nope. I can't reach their nameservers - it's not that they are pretending the sites within don't exist. They are not listening at all.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[clarkkent09]

A lot of companies (and unions) supported SOPA: http://www.scribd.com/doc/76259944/SOPA-Supporters

Therefore, why are you upset now?

Do you use a MasterCard or VISA? Do you watch ABC, follow pro football or basketball, buy books published by Random House, HarperCollins or McGraw-Hill, are a paying member of any of a dozen unions, buy any products made by Revlon, Pfizer, LOreal, Sony and a hundred other companies?

According to your logic, if any of the above is true, you should not be upset if a group of random hackers shuts down your website and causes you financial harm.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Anonymous Coward]

Typically you'd have one single master name server (usually hidden) that you edit, which pushes updates to any number of slave servers that it can transfer the zone to. The slaves are what you publicize as the authoritative servers for your domain.

Setting up multiple slaves with multiple providers isn't entirely trivial and more expensive than just paying one provider to be authoritative for you but is certainly possible.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[xaxa]

You could host secondary DNS yourself.

Can anyone tell me: if this is done, what happens when either DNS server is down, from the point of view of the user?

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

No, the link WAS functional. Everybody agreed that godaddy.com stayed up. It was the websites they hosted which went down.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah yeah. And don't wear that dress or you will be asking to get raped. Fuck off and die you miserable scum.

If you picked GoDaddy to host your DNS and/or website, it's more like "Yeah yeah. And don't lie spread-eagled in a dark alley with a sign that says 'please fuck me', or you might get what you are asking for..."

Re:You think this is a Game?

[formfeed]

affecting actual Interstate commerce

I thought only websites hosted by go-daddy were affected.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

I wouldn't recommend GoDaddy hosted email to anybody. Not that they implement their solution in a bad way but because its a bad solution. I always use one of two solutions based on ability to pay:

1) Google Apps (Free or $50 per year)
2) Hosted Exchange (between $5-20 a month)

Re:You think this is a Game?

[ildon]

Who is "everybody?" Godaddy.com hasn't been resolving for me since at least 1:30 PM EDT. It continues to not resolve for me now (5 PM EDT).

Re:You think this is a Game?

[leonardluen]

If i recall GoDaddy had a hand in writing the bill as well. they finally changed their stance after there was an exodus from their service over SOPA. and even then it seemed they only changed their stance because of their bottom dollar, and ultimately they still believed in it.

I pulled all my domains from GoDaddy a long time ago because of their SOPA support.

It seems anonymous is rather late to the party for this. all the SOPA stuff was many months ago.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Okian Warrior]

What's obnoxious about something like this is that the attack isn't likely to get the attention of the general public. Most people will see their favorite site is down, say "Aw, shucks," and check again later.

"Most people" aren't the target audience here. The target audience is IT administrators who are given the task of choosing a domain hosting solution.

Domain hosting choice involves a lot of factors such as cost, customer satisfaction, down-time, and so on. If Anonymous can insert a new factor "being down due to backlash from unethical behaviour", they will have accomplished their goal.

Numerous studies show that tiny influences can have a noticeable effect on large populations. We see this all the time where human decision-making is involved - tiny influences will not sway any individual decision, but those same tiny effects have enough of an effect to be measurable in the population at large.

That's what Anonymous (or rather, the hacker with "Anonymous" in his name) is doing here - generating a new, tiny influence which might have an effect on the overall population.

They are bringing "company reputation" back into the purchase decision process.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[LodCrappo]

If your business is so completely unimportant to you that you would trust something as critical as dns to a company like GoDaddy, I doubt the FBI is going to be very concerned with your loss.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[TCM]

I love those naive random thoughts. As if noone ever had more than one DNS server.

Google "DNS master slave setup". "Hidden primary" is another key phrase. DNS runs the Internet. It's not some toy that can't handle every imaginable setup.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[richlv]

http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch4/#slave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_zone_transfer

unless that was a joke :)

Re:You think this is a Game?

[blind biker]

I'm sorry you're having difficulties because of this hack. It's so sad that GoDaddy customersare in the shit like you are now.

Aw, whatever will we do to help? Sigh, sob.... maybe shoulda jumped ship when GoDaddy made it public they support SOPA?

Re:You think this is a Game?

[blind biker]

Once they realized that they had a massive exodus of customers, they made the business decision to reverse their stance.

GoDaddy never reversed their stance on SOPA! They basically said that they will not be so upfront with their support of the bill.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[macklin01]

It's affecting a lot more than commerce.

My cancer research website is down, too. (Only works on computers that had cached the DNS entries.) So much for inviting seminar speakers today.

I'm an academic. I set my site up years ago (before all the SOPA business) and don't have time to muck with moving my site around, hosting DNS here and content there, and the like. I barely have time to maintain content in the middle of a busy research career. I suppose I'm now supposed to be an expert on mathematical modeling + cancer + hosting my own DNS?

It's always worth keeping in mind that these things affect far more than business sites.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[BronsCon]

More accurately, it's: Don't be surprised if the armed thug you're doing business with holds you at gunpoint and robs you, or gets raided by the feds while you're there (getting you arrested at the same time).

Re:You think this is a Game?

[izomiac]

This is a crime and it's unfortunate for GoDaddy's customers. That said, I see two errors in your judgement that made this possible:

First, you chose to associate with GoDaddy, which is a calculated risk at best given how they earned the internet's ire with their SOPA position, and they weren't terribly reputable to being with.

Second, your primary and secondary DNS servers have a common point of failure. That's rather common, heck I do it for my own websites, but I'm not dependent upon them for anything critically important, thus I can afford to be lazy.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Lost Race]

Resolvers generally query multiple (or all) name servers for the domain simultaneously, and take whichever response comes back first. As long as one server is responding reliably, everything will work transparently for clients, though perhaps a bit slower. If that one server ever drops a packet then clients could see a long delay or outright lookup failure.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[SammyIAm]

"Nothing will be accomplished by it" only if when it's all over no one takes any action. You seem pretty upset about it, but are you planning on doing anything about the alleged motivation for the attack (i.e SOPA and the like)? Or when GoDaddy gets their servers back up and releases a "comforting" statement to their remaining customers, are you going to go back to ignoring everything but your own website?

Re:You think this is a Game?

[interkin3tic]

Didn't Obama JUST sign an executive order that was basically CISPA? Is that maybe the reason for the timing?

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Medievalist]

Wait, you put 1500 domains on GoDady?

And you've never bothered to develop an exit strategy?

I have no idea how to respond to that.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[skelly33]

It affects sites whose *DNS* is hosted by GoDaddy. That would make any site hosted by GoDaddy fair game... as well as any site that uses their DNS Manager, but hosts off-site.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[amicusNYCL]

Not so fast, there.

Could not locate remote server

Check that the address is spelled correctly, or try searching for the site.

Internetsupervision.com reports that support.godaddy.com fails a DNS lookup for 5 of its 8 test servers.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[LodCrappo]

no, that link WAS NOT functional for a great number of folks, as was the main godaddy.com site, for several hours. It may have worked for you, but no one agrees that godaddy.com stayed up, because it did not.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[hairyfeet]

Uhhh...you use GoDaddy, whose CEO brags about security being for cadavers, is practically legendary as a sleazy company,as others noted spews spam, and you want us to feel bad for you?

This is like bitching the those damned treehuggers at Greenpeace are keeping you from dumping your toxic waste in the ocean, wow how dare they! Word of advice, maybe you should choose a company a little less sleazeball huh?

Re:You think this is a Game?

[LodCrappo]

If you take your project seriously and believe your website is an important part of it, you simply must acquire the skill to make good decisions regarding it's implementation or hire an expert who can do this for you. You cannot stick your head in the sand and cry "I'm too busy, too important!" and expect any sympathy from me. Do you use that approach as an excuse for every area in which you fail to bring in proper expertise?

GoDaddy has a long track record of poor service and questionable practices the predates any SOPA business by many years. They offer nothing unique and have dozens of more reputable competitors. There is only one reason anyone uses GoDaddy: low cost.

This is your responsibility. Certainly you didn't end up using GoDaddy's services purely by random chance. A decision was made by someone, and it was made poorly. Probably someone trying to save a few bucks. It's highly unlikely that this will be the only ramification of that bad decision. It's also somewhat likely that other, similarly poor choices have been made in how your technical infrastructure is designed.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[babywhiz]

Considering GoDaddy didn't give a rats ass when they kept our website down for 2 weeks because they couldn't figure out how to manage ColdFusion (this happened right before they announced giving it up)....during this process in which they convinced us to PAY FOR 2 more years of ColdFusion hosting...in which 4 months into it they announced they were discontinuing ColdFusion.

It doesn't matter if you like or hate ColdFusion, the point was they offered it, we paid for it, and they spent 2 weeks dinking around getting it back up running after they moved the site around to non-ColdFusion servers (without our request or approval.). I didn't choose GoDaddy to begin with, I was just stuck having to support it until those decision makers were kicked to the door. Good thing the website isn't that important, in our business. (We host our own email.)

I personally grinned. Nothing annoys the shit out of me more than IT people that treat other IT people like crap and feed us full of crap (and we know it the minute they say it) and get paid so much to do it when you know damn well they don't do their job worth a crap.

Sorry. Off tangent. Maybe I am still a little bitter from the whole experience with them.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Twinbee]

This point has been brought up before. 'Godaddy' should have known better since they're in the technology business sector. Their whole business revolves around the lifeblood of the internet. I think practically every other registrar wasn't involved with SOPA one bit.

More to the point though, Goddaddy is simply a less efficient company compared to many, and the world would be better off without them (no offense intended, since it'd be great to free up their time for more productive tasks, or simply free time for its own sake).

Re:You think this is a Game?

[SgtAaron]

You could host secondary DNS yourself.

Can anyone tell me: if this is done, what happens when either DNS server is down, from the point of view of the user?

End-users should not notice a thing. The caching resolver they use at their ISP will try one of the listed
nameservers for a domain first (typically at random) if that address is not already in its cache, and if
the connection fails will automagically try the next in its list, if that fails the next, and so on. A delay of
some milliseconds in name resolution will be the only result, and probably not even noticed. If both
(or all if more than one) of the listed nameservers are offline and their is no cache entry for the looked up
name, the resolver will return an error to the client. Then they get a network connection error or whatever
their particular web browser decides to call the problem.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Twinbee]

I've found Namecheap to be very good (I'm not the only one, that seems to the overall consensus on the web, on here, and on Reddit too). I don't know an amazing amount, but found it VERY easy to transfer from my previous registrar, and they'll probably help you anyway. Heck even I might help if you like.

Sorry to hear about the seminar - maybe an offline copy of your website would have been doable...

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Duhavid]

Can I have 7 of 9?

Re:You think this is a Game?

[spirit_fingers]

GoDaddy supported SOPA initially, but rescinded their support last December.

http://www.godaddy.com/newscenter/release-view.aspx?news_item_id=378&isc=smtwsup

Re:You think this is a Game?

[LifesABeach]

Wally-World has Customer Service? That's a different orientation for a human predation.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Dahamma]

That's about as useful an answer to a small, possibly non-technical business that pays someone to host a website as if I were to tell you to stop complaining about your bandwidth and create your own fiber backbone. Despite this GoDaddy meltdown, having every podunk website host its own DNS would be a complete disaster.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Everybody agreed that godaddy.com stayed up. It was the websites they hosted which went down.

Who is this "everybody" you're referring to? GoDaddy.com itself was unresponsive when I checked it after reading this story roughly 4 hours ago.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[horza]

Productivity for who? No professional would use GoDaddy and so they are unaffected. The poor amateur chumps that do use such insalubrious providers will be inconvenienced... but will they somehow read why? If not then you are right. If the message gets through about their business practices then those temporarily inconvenienced might be grateful to Anon. Throwing the chalk duster in class might get attention but without the followup education its worthless.

Phillip.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Smallpond]

Spammers go through 100 domains a month.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[smellotron]

[GoDaddy's] CEO brags about security being for cadavers,

If you read the context on his own website you should understand that by "security" he is referring to personal comfort zone, as in "take more risks with your life/business" and the proverbial risk/reward trade-off, in contrast to network/system security which is a risk/convenience trade-off. There are enough examples with which to highlight his sleaziness that you don't need this "security" lie to pin him to the wall.

Apologies in advance if English is not your primary language.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Tastecicles]

Behold, the Internet Tough Guy. Also known as a Keyboard Warrior, he talks big shit online, and doesn't afraid of anything. Always male (for there are no girls on the internet).
As he will thoroughly explain to you, he is respected and feared by ALL; no way he's skittish to casually throw around ep1c insultz and one-lieners like "go fuck yourself," or "u aint done sucking my dick." He swears a lot just to show how hardcore he is. God help you if you even dare defy him by delivering some sort of retort when he says something to you, or practicing logic on his userpage, or even reading whatever he posted and writing replies of disagreement (or even agreeing responses, in some cases) relating exactly to what you just read ... No, you can't do that. No. No. You don't even know him or what he's about. Internet Tough Guy isn't someone you should mess with, ever. That's right, you cross the line and he will come to your house and fuck you up so bad and rape you so hard and kill you so god damn dead OH SHIT. You must have pissed yourself by now from these horrific threats of bodily harm. Because if someone threatens you online, that's it. Game over man. Game over! You are d-e-a-d, DEAD! Nothing can save you. Not even that new dog you just bought. You might as well kill yourself now...
Actually, IRL, Internet Tough Guy, there? He's a total fag or a basement-dweller, with a high chance of being a redneck and/or skinhead. Sometimes, the Internet Tough Guy will actually be somewhat "tough." However, this makes him about four times more of a total fag. The sad reality is that these people are a concentrated form of noob, not one of whom can grasp the concept that they obviously are never actually going to be able to make good on their intimidating remarks, or that their low-IQ ramblings do not impress the Internet nor physically affect people on it in any way. More simply put, when nobodies such as themselves make empty threats and loudmouthed, prick statements to unknown persons whom they have never met and do not know the locations of, it does not equal being a badass, becoming dominant to the other users, nor actually going full ass-rape/ass-kick on someone.
Many Internet Tough Guys are really into computer programming, or, at the bare minimum, love videogaming, heavy metal, and perhaps working for RBS, the investment bank that hires a lot of fake tough guy cunts. The typical Internet Tough Guy can be found in nearly every community on LJ but often resides in his parent's basement for at least 7 days a week. (And not because he's trying to make it into an imaginary apartment, either). Usually, his parents banished him to the unfinished, wet, moldy, cold and dark basement because they couldn't stand either his smell or the fact that he is a disgrace to the family name. 99.9999% chance he is also subject to frequent pwning. By everyone. (He won't admit it, though. He "won" because he swore a lot. And disabled replies.) From furry communities, to fandom communities, to political communities, the Internet Tough Guy is one of the many stock users that make up a community.

Subspecies

Furfags
Many furries who are furries are Internet Tough Guys as well. Fed up with fursecution at the hands of trolls, they often resort to threats of physical violence and will start talking about how much they can bench press. Mentioning muscle mass, level of physical fitness, etc. are all a part of being an Internet Tough Guy. By mentioning this they feel they are intimidating their opponents, but in are reality making them LOL REPEATEDLY. Trolls being everywhere and trolls they are, this induces them. Sometimes they might say to a man who commented on a hot girl that "If she was my daughter, you'd be singing Soprano", when the truth is, this guy DOES sing Soprano, he couldn't find a wife or have kids if he wanted to, and if he really saw you, he'd shit his pants in fear. His disagreement over a hot girl confirms that he's a fag, but most people forget to remind him of that, and take the tough guy

Re:You think this is a Game?

[fustakrakich]

Maybe it isn't about SOPA.. And nobody knows why GoDaddy went off the air.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[xenobyte]

Did aliens just steal 50 IQ-points from everybody here?

DNS is a distributed system with caches. If your DNS-resolver (which is a cache) had the godaddy.com domain cached before the attack it will continue to resolve until the cache expires, usually 24 hours after being cached. If your DNS-resolver didn't have it cached, it will be unable to fetch the records as the authoritative DNS-servers aren't responding, and thus it will fail to resolve. Some tools, like 'dig' will tell you how long time remains on the cached records.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[c_g_hills]

If DNS providers would provide a standardised API (or even allow standard dynamic updates with TSIG) it would make it a lot easier to use multiple providers. The two main problems I have come across are that the providers often do not let you add any NS records other than their own servers (so when a resolver caches the NS records and that provider goes down, it won't try using the other provider until the TTL expires), and updating records is painful because it involves logging into each of your providers websites to make the changes.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[MrMickS]

I don't sit on multiple ISPs in a SAS70 rated datacenter. I do however host my own DNS. Its running hosted on a number of servers connected to different ISPs hosted at people's houses. There are outages for these connections but, due to the DNS configuration I'd have to lose all of them for a number of days before my domains disappeared off the internet.

DNS was designed for an Internet that pre-dated such datacenters, one with slower communications and regular outages. The primary rule is don't but your eggs all in the same basket, or subnet, or datacenter. DNS allows you to remove any single point of failure by its design. To not take advantage of that, preferring to rely on 5 9s uptimes, seems nonsensical.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[helix2301]

According to the hackers tweet it was not because of SOPA AnonymousOwn3r said: “I’m not anti go daddy, you guys will understand because I did this attack. I’m taking godaddy down because well i’d like to test how the cyber security is safe and for more reasons that I cannot talk now,” the hacker said in another tweet.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[rs79]

Bingo.

DNS is the Schrodinger's cat of the TCP/IP protocol suite.

As for Godaddy, if you think Bob shot those elephants in accordance with the law you might want to actually read those laws.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[MikeBabcock]

Godaddy does nothing illegal to my knowledge, doesn't exploit children in China, but simply has some philosophical ideas that go against the grain here.

i thought freedom of thought was a major issue to most of us. Taking someone's business offline because the person they buy services from thinks differently than you is pretty terrible. Godaddy may not be a wonderful supporter of freedoms, but Anonymous just proved itself to be even worse.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

I have two DNS servers. They are just on the same provider. Obviously its possible. The implementation is what people need to know about because obviously I'm not the only person with this question.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

none of that really helps. I know how to set it up if I host my own DNS servers on my own domain. My personal site is completely hosted and I don't run a single server related to that company. So I need to do it with multiple providers who run their own DNS servers. Again, be snarky and keep perpetuating the idea that IT people are jerks.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[richlv]

huh ? your comment i responded to said nothing about using multiple dns providers. what was snarky about my reply, i fail to see.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

Because you said you thought it was a joke. I'm actually asking. Also if you go back up the chain in the thread you will see that this is about multiple DNS servers.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[richlv]

multiple dns servers does not imply in any way that you are just using somebody's else's servers to store your zone info. even then it is possible to set up zone transfer, as master/slave is per zone. though on slashdot saying "multiple dns servers" most would still assume having control over those servers.

note that multiple servers are needed and used no matter whether you manage them yourself or not - even when you do that yourself, they are still multiple servers (maybe that caused the confusion ?)

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

If you were not being snarky, then I apologize. Its just the way this thread has gone so far.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

Ok, well let me clear it up. I don't have control over any servers I can set up my zone on. I don't have dedicated or virtual dedicated or physical servers of any kind. I have GoDaddy registration, DNS, and web hosting. The point here is this; how do I avoid relying on GoDaddy's DNS servers as the sole path to resolve DNS to my domaiin name? Keeping in mind I don't have any servers.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[richlv]

aiee. keep in mind that i haven't tried this and i have little experience with hosted dns :)

as an example that has been mentioned on /. , gandi offers secondary dns server :
http://wiki.gandi.net/en/domains/dns#gandi-s-secondary-dns

you would still need a primary somewhere, but once you do, the gandi secondary one should automatically get all the changes you make to the primary one.

(i'm not affiliated with gandi or even a customer, only have seen them mentioned on /. as a decent provider)

Re:You think this is a Game?

[Bryansix]

Thanks for the information. I'll dig a little more and see if I can get it to work.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[i286NiNJA]

No I'm saying don't be sad when your vacuum cleaner falls apart and you don't have a job because you shop at wal-mart... except in the case of go-daddy you get lied to constantly (like at best buy) and it's expensive (like best buy)

Re:You think this is a Game?

[ryanov]

Yeah, because issues immediately... SQUIRREL!

Re:You think this is a Game?

[ryanov]

The details were "people will fucking leave our hosting in droves if we keep supporting this out loud." So I'm pretty sure they pulled their public support. Their lobbying? I'm not quite so sure/don't remember.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[ryanov]

Yes.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[ryanov]

You've made a number of very self-important and know-it-all posts about what you need and what this is doing to you. One assumed you knew about something as simple as this or would Google it before asking. Forgive him for thinking you might have been joking.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[ryanov]

We do this at my workplace -- we are the primaries and Cogent does the secondaries

Re:You think this is a Game?

[ryanov]

It is not a difficult change to make. If you're looking for someone to do it for you, let me know.

Re:You think this is a Game?

[ryanov]

+1 on NameCheap. I now have a number of domains with them.

Glad I moved my domains

[BooRadley]

Back when GoDaddy was publicly in support of SOPA, I moved away from them. Ended up saving a lot as well.

No regrets.
 

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[tibit]

I moved to namecheap for domains and hosting, and not only is it cheaper, but the overall experience doesn't leave sour aftertaste. They have been excellent so far.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[kullnd]

+1 Namecheap.com ... I migrated about half my domains during the SOPA deal, was going to do the rest this month (just ran out of time) .... Now some of my sites are down, and you can bet they will be moved ASAP.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[Anonymous Coward]

Good for you, helping to help fund the man, giving them money so they can improve their service with wonderful investments in female nascar drivers that suck at nascar, aren't really that good looking and stick them in ads that are blatantly "sex sells" to appeal to you, the lowest common denominator.

You fight that good fight sir.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[i286NiNJA]

Good work! Stand by GoDaddy, pay for expensive web hosting of low quality with a long track record of bad security and customer fucking. If more people were like you folks wouldn't be so quick to shit on the little guy.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[Anonymous Coward]

You're an idiot.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[achbed]

Ditto. Tried a few different hosts, and eventually settled on gandi.net - works like a charm! A little more expensive, but I like the option of having duplicated virtual hosts on two continents just in case of failure...

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[heypete]

I have some domains with NameCheap (which others have pointed out is quite good) and others with Gandi.net.

NameCheap has somewhat better pricing, but I prefer Gandi for most things. I rather like that Gandi's whois privacy is included by default in the cost of registration with compatible domains (.us, for example, does not allow private registration). The only public information they display is your full name and NIC handle -- the address and phone number are changed to that of their Paris headquarters and the email address is a spam-protected alias. I like that they display your full name, as their policy is that regardless of if you have the privacy service enabled or not your domain is still yours and you own it. Other registrars have the policy that they own (for as long as the whois privacy is enabled) your domain and are leasing it back to you.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[GoodNewsJimDotCom]

Yep. I moved from Godaddy when they supported SOPA too.

All seriousness aside: By looking at the scantily clad women they advertise with, is it any surprise they go down?

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[saya13]

Back when GoDaddy was publicly in support of SOPA, I moved away from them.

To where did you move?

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[the eric conspiracy]

I moved from GoDaddy to Namecheap this summer, SOPA was the last straw for me. GoDaddy made it an unpleasant process. Good riddance.

I don't condone the Anonymous action though. There are lots of good people who use GoDaddy.

GoDaddy really are bottom feeders though. Anyone using them should go home and re-think their lives.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm not moving my site. I will not be bullied around. I'm sticking with Godaddy and seeing this through. Besides, my site is only one narrow aspect of my online presence including social media and an image host/seller.

And Stockholm Syndrome sets in ...

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[Grishnakh]

GoDaddy is located in Scottsdale, Arizona, which is a haven for sociopaths and assholes, and is the home of the "30,000 dollar a year millionaire".

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[girlintraining]

All seriousness aside: By looking at the scantily clad women they advertise with, is it any surprise they go down?

I think those scantily clad women are very disappointed it can't stay up as well.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[Bryansix]

Expensive by what standards? My work uses Total Choice Hosting. They cost more and their support is MUCH MUCH worse. I can get Godaddy on the phone in under 30 seconds and they know the answer to my questions. My website just went down for the first time in 5 years. I run Wordpress and I've never been hacked. They don't force updates on my but make it stupid simple to migrate to a new version of MySQL on my own without being on the phone with them. They give me the access and control I want and need and their website is fairly easy to navigate. You might think your hyperbole is smart but in reality it ignores the state of the marketplace.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[kullnd]

No, I was already moving my stuff from them in response to SOPA.... The stuff not moved yet was not moved because it was not expired, and I didnt have the money to move everything all at once. The remaining expiration dates are approaching. I have not purchased or renewed anything from GoDaddy since the SOPA event.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[Sardaukar86]

Anyone using them should go home and re-think their lives.

A little over the top, don't you think. Jerk.

It's a quote from The Phantom Menace if memory serves.

Whoops, nearly forgot the ad-hominen: Jerk!

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[jittles]

Its just their DNS. I bought several domains there years ago with 10 years of registration. I don't host my DNS there and my sites were completely unaffected. And I am certainly not going to move my hosting and lose my prepaid registration fees because they are one of hundreds of companies that supported SOPA.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[wamatt]

Also moved to Namecheap. Additionally would recommend DNS Made Easy for DNS hosting.

Amazingly fast multicast. multi-geo and economical DNS. Also love their useful (albeit proprietary) ANAME record.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[DriedClexler]

Sounds like the perfect PR campaign: they have their usual array of scantily clad women with silicon tits, saying:

"We're so sorry we went down on you like that."

"We really didn' mean to suck alllll that ... hard work out of you."

"But rest assured, we'll be doing our very best in the future to help you keep it firmly up alllll the time."

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[drinkypoo]

I went before that, but I don't remember why except that they sucked. I went to justhost (affiliate link at the bottom of my webpage) and they've been pretty excellent. Price has stayed pretty much the same, performance has actually improved, and support has been responsive.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[Bryansix]

Nobody should ever ask questions at all. Good job. Now its obvious why people sometime hate IT workers. Stuck up and snobbish.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[i286NiNJA]

Where did I ask a DNS question? Earlier you said I think people should be murdered for shopping at wal-mart and that expecting to lose money when you involve idiots in your business was like saying you should be expected to be raped for wearing a provocative dress.

I think you're trying to get people to mod me down or something, does getting modded down a few times have much impact on your ability to use slashdot... really i want to know? I've asked people to mod me down as a joke before (and they did). In any case you're not having much success.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[ryanov]

IT workers have very little tolerance for people who are in over their head working in IT and who refuse to RTFM before answering an educated question. If I had to teach myself most of what I know, why should I do free consulting work for you? Most IT workers who can see you've tried are more than happy to politely help you. The same, for that matter, goes for speaking English in France. Try to speak French first and the whole situation changes.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[ryanov]

This was obviously not directed at you. Read carefully.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[ryanov]

My dad used them too, and my workplace does as well (why I'm not in charge of that where I work, I don't know -- I am in charge of the DNS servers, only to find the guy who is in charge of domain registrations has mucked around without telling me -- but I digress). If you don't know much about DNS, they are VERY visible. And if your site doesn't matter much (like my dad's), it doesn't make too much difference.

Re:Glad I moved my domains

[ryanov]

I personally moved to NameCheap.

"Activism"

[Anonymous Coward]

Hmm, attacking innocent people at random, could have sworn there was some other word for that...

Re:"Activism"

[Bryansix]

Terrorism. There I said it.

Re:"Activism"

[Anonymous Coward]

The goal wasn't to instill fear or terror.

So you are wrong and stupid. You should feel bad about that.

Re:"Activism"

[amirishere]

collateral damage?

Re:"Activism"

[vlm]

Hmm, attacking innocent people at random, could have sworn there was some other word for that...

"US Military Drone Attack" Hmm thats 4 words.

"Civil forfeiture" Hmm 2 words.

"Obama" or "Bush" ? Yeah I founds it.

Re:"Activism"

[tompaulco]

Hmm, attacking innocent people at random, could have sworn there was some other word for that...
Well I suppose if I disagree with Wal-mart not using union labor, it would be perfectly acceptable for me to go and slash the tires of all of Wal-mart's customers. That'll teach Wal-Mart!

Re:"Activism"

[Voyager529]

Hmm, attacking innocent people at random, could have sworn there was some other word for that...

Well I suppose if I disagree with Wal-mart not using union labor, it would be perfectly acceptable for me to go and slash the tires of all of Wal-mart's customers. That'll teach Wal-Mart!

That analogy only works if you only slash the tires of customers who purchased tires at Wal-Mart who bought them under the pretenses that the tires were impervious to 99.999% of knives, and Wal-Mart tires inherently included internal canisters of Fix-A-Flat, but it took them four hours to find the activate-switch, which union workers would have had under control in 5 minutes or less.

There was a lot of opportunity cost lost by GoDaddy customers, but they didn't have to pay to get their websites back up once DNS came back, so comparing destruction of property that remains destroyed until the user replaces it with a website that works just fine once either the DDOS stops or the traffic is successfully isolated.

Re:"Activism"

[tompaulco]

There was a lot of opportunity cost lost by GoDaddy customers, but they didn't have to pay to get their websites back up once DNS came back, so comparing destruction of property that remains destroyed until the user replaces it with a website that works just fine once either the DDOS stops or the traffic is successfully isolated.
There is a certain non-zero dollar value of permanent destruction that was caused by this temporary loss. My company, for reasons which are not known by me, uses godaddy as their DNS service. We had customers that were not able to access our site and therefore not able to perform their work. That costs our customers money, and costs us in terms of reputation and real dollars in terms of SLAs. Undoubtely we should have some alternate DNS service. I don't know about stuff like that as it is not my department. Apparently, the department whose business it is to know that stuff also doesn't know that stuff. But what anonymous did caused real people to lose real dollars through no fault of their own.

Re:"Activism"

[ryanov]

Doing things more safely in many cases does take longer. Yes, it was easier to get, for example, construction done faster in the old days. I would like to think we've come a long way.

Bob Parsons quote

[suso]

Bob Parsons, who created GoDaddy, once said "Security is for cadavers" when giving business advice to the general public.

Re:Bob Parsons quote

[thePowerOfGrayskull]

I was going to be all like "citation required" and shit, but then I looked and I found this:

Bob Parsons' 16 Rules

(Yes. It's down at time of writing. That's the joke.)

Re:Bob Parsons quote

[suso]

Its his only quote on wikiquote among other places: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bob_Parsons

Re:Bob Parsons quote

[amicusNYCL]

It's online now, and that happens to be his #1 rule:

Get and stay out of your comfort zone.

I believe that not much happens of any significance when we're in our comfort zone. I hear people say, "But I'm concerned about security." My response to that is simple: "Security is for cadavers."

I guess he's not in his comfort zone. Which must mean Anonymous is doing him a favor.

Re:Bob Parsons quote

[Dishevel]

+5 Insightful.
For a quote taken out of context that means nothing even close to the implication.
  full quote is

I believe that not much happens of any significance when we're in our comfort zone. I hear people say, "But I'm concerned about security." My response to that is simple: "Security is for cadavers.

He is talking about your own personal comfort zone.
Of course you either already knew that or were you just ignorantly posting stuff you heard but never understood?

Of course I still do not like GoDaddy.
I just dislike liars even more.

Re:Bob Parsons quote

[swell]

I've been doing business with Bob for over 20 years.

He used to sell Mac software dirt cheap. Simple but functional programs that accomplished some goal effortlessly. I think he lived in Iowa at the time, had a family, was a slightly religious nut.

Don't know what's happened in recent years but he seems to be the Hugh Hefner of the hosting world now. I hope he recovers, not as a Jesus freak but as a sensible person who can make the internet a better place.

Re:Bob Parsons quote

[drinkypoo]

Bob Parsons, who created GoDaddy, once said "Security is for cadavers" when giving business advice to the general public.

I just dislike liars even more.

But your own comment supports the assertion...

Re:Bob Parsons quote

[MikeBabcock]

And its terribly out of context ... he's talking about the difference between going out on a limb to do something risky and sticking to the safe route.

It could be rephrased as "not taking risks is for cadavers."

It was NOT Anonymous.

[Anonymous Coward]

Anonymous member AnonymousOwn3r has stated that this was not an Anonymous operation, and that he did this by himself.

Re:It was NOT Anonymous.

[kaizendojo]

So an Anonymous Coward comments that this was NOT Anonymous, but Anonymous member AnonymousOwn3r??!?

Should I beleive *ANY* of this or what???

Re:It was NOT Anonymous.

[guises]

Yes, I'd really like the fact that this had nothing to do with Anonymous to be in the headline. Random attacks like this, credited to Anonymous, really undermine what they're doing when they target someone over a real issue - Wikileaks, Scientology, etc.

Re:It was NOT Anonymous.

[lottameez]

He also tweeted that it wasn't because he was anti-big daddy. i guess that should eliminate about 95% of the comments on this story.

Re:It was NOT Anonymous.

[adameros]

I was the one to my the "Anonymous Coward" comment because I was too lazy to login, but I'm not too lazy to back my post up with facts, especially when a dumbass would rather mock the poster than actually address what was said. Here is the Tech Crunch article where they admit their mistake and stop blaming Anonymous: http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-of-sites/ Here is where the person taking credit says it was not Anonymous, but a solo act: https://twitter.com/AnonymousOwn3r/status/245227793334546432 Anything relevant you would like to add, kaizendojo? Or just more worthless snark?

Re:It was NOT Anonymous.

[Twinbee]

According to many people's definition, he IS 'Anonymous', because 'Anonymous' isn't a coordinated group of people, but people who usually work alone, (but have the same mentality/motivations as other 'members'). That's the whole point.

Re:It was NOT Anonymous.

[inKubus]

When I saw that Godaddy was down, I lol'd (since I have nothing hosted with them since around 2007 when they deleted 6 virtual servers of which they and I did not have backups of).. So I'd say the anonymous responsible was carrying on the mission of anonymous pretty well, because I lol'd.

Re:Hrmph

[Bryansix]

Because they hacked an exploitable DNS system which every provider on the planet uses? Yeah, totally saw that one coming.

what was the point of this?

[logicassasin]

I guess somewhere down the line we may get an answer, but I really have to wonder: Why GoDaddy?

Re:what was the point of this?

[amicusNYCL]

What's the big mystery? Exposure is the obvious reason. Now I'm sitting here and know that there is someone in Brazil with too much time on his hands who likes calling himself "AnonymousOwn3r". I didn't know that yesterday, and I probably still wouldn't know it if he took down vistaPages or Vodahost or whoever else. Not that I'm going to do anything with that pearl of knowledge, but I'm sure he's getting iFellated in whatever IRC channel he hangs out in.

Are they really taking credit?

[Anonymous Coward]

Doesn't seem like Anonymous is particularly united in their belief this had anything to do with them.

Although Anonymous takes full responsibility for the fact that I am a Coward.

Make it stop.

[transposia]

Didn't realize we were still using GoDaddy DNS... but I wish this would end already!

In other things that are totally news

[JustAnotherIdiot]

An elderly lady crossed the sidewalk, Anonymous claims responsibility.

Now how will we "see what happens next"?

[Kenja]

Those G rated porn TV commercials now just mock me!

We need a new DNS system

[JDG1980]

Events like this further underline why we need a new secure, distributed DNS system, one that is not subject to tampering by either Anonymous or ICE. Yes, there's a huge installed base issue to deal with, but DNS is falling apart, and if things continue the way they have been, the Internet may be completely balkanized across national lines in a few more years.

Re:We need a new DNS system

[TCM]

You mean the OpenDNS that fakes records that don't exist?

Re:We need a new DNS system

[Anonymous Coward]

OpenDNS is terrible. They fuck with domain record instead of NXDOMAINing like they are supposed to. Screw those bastards.

Re:We need a new DNS system

[WaffleMonster]

Events like this further underline why we need a new secure, distributed DNS system, , one that is not subject to tampering by either Anonymous or ICE.

"new" and "secure" are oxymorons.

So is "secure" and "distributed".

It is important to parse the difference between a problem in implementation vs a problem in specification. If an implementation failure allowed compromise then using it as an example for the need to fix DNS is not appropriate.

In my view DNS need only be as reliable as the underlying network.

We know from experience what happens with anything requiring planet scale trust anchors. They are either never implemented (DNSSEC) or fail spectacularly when they are (HTTPS).

but DNS is falling apart, and if things continue the way they have been, the Internet may be completely balkanized across national lines in a few more years

The same holds for any system where power is sufficiently aggregated outside government control. If DNS did not do a sufficient job do you think governments would just throw in the towl and stop there? They wouldn't go after transit?

If anything allowing them to play games with DNS provides some insulation against even more egregious intervention.

In my view the only solution is to knowingly give up the idea/myth of security and implement something only good enough to be usefully reliable. Something with no chance of ever making it through todays IETF.

Re:We need a new DNS system

[rs79]

Yup. Try this:

http://vimeo.com/18279777

Not like Go Daddy is a "good" company....

[alphax45]

Not saying that people that choose Go Daddy deserve to have their sites down, I don't blame the victim for choosing them as their provider, however Go Daddy is not exactly the most ethical company. I can see why they would be targeted in such an attack.

Re:Not like Go Daddy is a "good" company....

[zerro]

why is parent not modded down trolling?? seriously!?

Re:Not like Go Daddy is a "good" company....

[amicusNYCL]

How come you're so eager to "double down" on a web host with one of the worst online reputations? Do you think you're sending some sort of message to "hackers" by doing so? Here's the message you're sending: you're saying you don't care about reliable hosting, that you're willing to stay with GoDaddy and continue to pay them because you don't want to make any effort to find a better deal. They know that, and they will continue to provide the same level of service without seeing a need to improve.

Look into Hostgator, or Siteocity. If you really want to stay with a big company with failing customer support, maybe try Softlayer instead of GoDaddy.

Re:Not like Go Daddy is a "good" company....

[Bryansix]

It would help your argument if you had facts. I went with GoDaddy initially because they were the lowest priced, had the least technical problems, and have excellent customer support. I don't know where you get your information but it is not factual.

Re:Not like Go Daddy is a "good" company....

[Bryansix]

Because I'm not trolling. Show me some facts. Show me that other hosts are actually cheaper while keeping the same quality service. You know how many problems I have had with GoDaddy in hosting with them for 5 years? Zero problems. My site is active too and I have had no problems with the hosting whatsoever.

Re:Not like Go Daddy is a "good" company....

[Bryansix]

Again, where are the facts? Where are the examples? You have none. Stop just making shit up.

Re:Not like Go Daddy is a "good" company....

[amicusNYCL]

I went with GoDaddy initially because they were the lowest priced, had the least technical problems, and have excellent customer support.

That's great, but considering that's no longer necessarily true, my question is what is your reason for "doubling down". Hostgator, for example, has had 100% uptime since April (they guarantee 99.9%). They also have cheaper hosting plans than GoDaddy. Domain registration has fairly consistent pricing, I don't see a reason to register with GoDaddy and be subjected to their crap just to save a dollar or two (if that). Dyn.com can host all the DNS records you want, that's what they specialize in. I just don't see any reason to use GoDaddy, so I'm just wondering why you're so eager to go whole hog for them.

Re:Not like Go Daddy is a "good" company....

[Bryansix]

I went with GoDaddy initially because they were the lowest priced, had the least technical problems, and have excellent customer support.

That's great, but considering that's no longer necessarily true, my question is what is your reason for "doubling down". Hostgator, for example, has had 100% uptime since April (they guarantee 99.9%). They also have cheaper hosting plans than GoDaddy. Domain registration has fairly consistent pricing, I don't see a reason to register with GoDaddy and be subjected to their crap just to save a dollar or two (if that). Dyn.com can host all the DNS records you want, that's what they specialize in. I just don't see any reason to use GoDaddy, so I'm just wondering why you're so eager to go whole hog for them.

Godaddy Price on .com domains: $14.99 (currently $12.99 and volume and year discounts)
Hostgater Price on .com domains: $15.00 a year all the time
Advantage Godaddy

GoDaddy economy hosting (Windows or Linux): 1 year for $5.69 a month
Hostgater price on hatchling hosting: 1 year for $5.56 a month
Advantage HostGater

Hostgater is cheaper only if you commit to 2-3 years of hosting at a time

Backend maintenance:
Hostgater; CPanel
GoDaddy: Custom dashboard that extends far beyond what CPanel can do. Custom utilities to make migrating databases easier. Context Sensitive help buttons located on every page.

Advantage GoDaddy

So the differences are not that huge. In addition, the hosting at GoDaddy did not go down. DNS resolution did and for that any provider is just as vulnerable to DDOS attacks.

Re:Not like Go Daddy is a "good" company....

[amicusNYCL]

Any provider is vulnerable to certain common flaws in DNS, or DDOS attacks in general, but not all providers are incompetent.

Anyway, I don't have any skin in the game, I don't care who you host with. Apparently your reasoning is that GoDaddy has a better control panel than the industry-standard WHM/cPanel, and I can't comment on that because I have no experience with GoDaddy's control panel. I'll continue using my dedicated servers at Cybertrails, you do what you want to do, and we're both happy (assuming our sites aren't offline, that is).

Re:Not like Go Daddy is a "good" company....

[ryanov]

Jesus Christ, do your own homework.

Don't use the godaddy DNS and you'll be fine

[hwstar]

If you have registered your domain with Godaddy, and used a third party DNS, everything will be fine. I've found it's better to use a 3rd party DNS as it allows more flexibility in managing the domain name.

Re:Don't use the godaddy DNS and you'll be fine

[cHiphead]

What "more flexibility" is allowed on a third party DNS vs. Godaddy's domain manager? (Honest question, I've used both and until today never had a DNS outage with GD and there is no missing functionality from GD's domain manager that I have discerned)

Re:Don't use the godaddy DNS and you'll be fine

[randomnote1]

What 3rd party DNS managers would you suggest (or have you used)?

Someone should email them

[sl4shd0rk]

you know, to let them know their network is down.

Re:Someone should email them

[mrnick]

Apparently they have been using twitter to communicate...
http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-godaddy-sites-down-20120910,0,3446985.story

My domain is down, because I use their DNS (not their hosting), very irritating!

Re:Someone should email them

[bill_mcgonigle]

you know, to let them know their network is down.

I've tried that before, when a client's hosted service (against my recommendation) would only send a TCP RST in response to anything. They replied that it was a problem on our end, despite the pcap attachment showing otherwise.

The only winning move is not to play the game.

Danica OK

[trevc]

The important question that needs to be answered; is Danica Patrick OK?

Re:Hrmph

[dshk]

According to the article, it is a DDOS, not a hack. And GoDaddy indeed has a very bad name, at least here on Slashdot. I never made business with them, once I checked their domain registration offer, but it contained some obviously (for IT pros) misleading sales pitch, and that was enough for me one.

Who instead of Go Daddy?

[tepples]

My domain is registered with Gandi, but my web site is on Go Daddy. I feel like switching to another provider. What entry-level web hosting provider would you recommend using instead of Go Daddy? Is Dreamhost much better?

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[Anonymous Coward]

Dreamhost is terrible. I've had good luck with BlueHost.com for a few people who wanted inexpensive.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[heypete]

If you're already with Gandi, check out their Simple Hosting. It's pretty slick, as far as basic hosting goes: you get your own Apache/MySQL/PHP processes, the web server runs with the same permissions as your user account (so setting up stuff like WordPress is trivial as there's no permissions-related issues), can host multiple separate sites on a single instance, etc.

Their VPSs are pretty standard paravirtualized Xen systems which work out pretty well (I ran a Team Fortress 2 gameserver for a while on one and it was stable and reliable).

As a domain customer you get a 50% discount code for the first year ($30/year rather than $60/year).

Disclaimer: Gandi customer, not employed by them in any way.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[Anonymous Coward]

I switched to name.com... Seems Good an cheaper than godaddy

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[detritus.]

Maybe Gandi?

https://www.gandi.net/hosting/

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[vlm]

What entry-level web hosting provider would you recommend using instead of Go Daddy?

Everyone loves hurricane electric. Rather than using a webhost everyone hates like godaddy, why not use a webhost everyone loves like he.net, even ex-customers like me? Trust me, no one is stupid enough to hire me as a booth babe, so you know this is not astroturfing.

And I don't wanna hear comments from the peanut gallery about how they're not the cheapest. Yes, not being the cheapest is often a side effect of not sucking.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[yooy]

nearlyfreespeach.net or hostgator.com customer service at hostgator is OUTSTANDING Avoid: 1and1

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[matazar]

I use HawkHost.com for my sites. Been using them for a few years, never had any issues. Slowly switching my domains over to my own box at softlayer, but that's just because I want the control.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[LodCrappo]

You mean the advertising company that makes its profits by hijacking DNS requests?? The company that breaks things like MX lookups by default? The company that takes advantage of dimwits who thing anything with the word "Open" in the name is actually somehow open? That OpenDNS?

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[xaxa]

They're based in the UK, however, so your card will show a "foreign transaction fee" if you're in the US.

They seem cheap (but it's years since I last looked at this stuff), but it's a bit annoying that they don't seem to have an option to charge me (in the UK) in pounds.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[dgatwood]

Out of curiosity, what problems have you had with Dreamhost? They've been rock solid for me.

Now GoDaddy... *that* was terrible. Their UNIX boxes had process limits measured in seconds, which meant that just trying to upload a single RAW image file tended to fail about eight times out of ten. And in spite of those limits, their web servers would frequently stall for the better part of a minute before replying to an HTTP request. They were horribly managed hacks. It is no surprise that anonymous could DDOS their systems. I doubt it took more than one machine on a moderately fast connection and five lines of shell script.

Oh, and when I asked them to move me to a different server, they said no. I cancelled my account less than a week after I first set it up.

I've been using DH ever since, and have had no problems. To be fair, I'm mostly serving static content right now (except for a custom PHPBB instance with a custom authentication system that I'm just starting to set up). YMMV if you are trying to run Wordpress or something similarly bloated and heavyweight.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[dgatwood]

NearlyFreeSpeech is okay as long as you don't need lots of disk space. Otherwise it's very expensive.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[skelly33]

I second that - their customer service sucks, flat out. Our webmaster passed away and with her went the master password for our corporate account at Dreamhost. A seemingly trivial matter for someone in customer service to handle, but after 8 months of trying they still have not successfully recovered access to the account. They have *never* received a return phone call or email back from Dreamhost support people. That includes even looking up Deamhost employees on their own site's staff directory, including the CEO himself via LinkedIn, sending emails directly to staff members, developers, IT folks, anyone we could find in the company to urge *someone* to return a damn phone call or email. Nothing. the best part was the phone number listed on their website that appeared to go to one guy's cell phone voicemail. Utter BS. I'm not going to promote GoDaddy hosting, but there are far better companies out there to deal with than Dreamhost. Don't just pick the first one you see advertising over 20 million suckers paying them every month...

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[Minupla]

You might also check out http://www.canadawebhosting.com/. I've been involved in several projects using them and been happy with the results.

Min

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[Kalriath]

Well, there was that time that Dreamhost billed their entire customer base for three years of service in one go because their Perl script that charges everyone had no safeguards against being run for the wrong date.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[dubbreak]

Dreamhost is terrible. I've had good luck with BlueHost.com for a few people who wanted inexpensive.

How so? I've used dreamhost for a few years (as have some friends) and have had 0 problems. All super low bandwidth sites mind you. So what happened with dreamhost to make you say they are terrible? It's fine to have an opinion, but you should back it up somehow.

I was using webhostingbuzz before but did have a few issues (lost some db data when they did something to a server and they were't able to recover it.. some outages they didn't credit for) plus they raised their prices.
br> I had some issues with dns setting in the panel of hostmonster on someone's site I was helping with (changes were locked out when they shouldn't have been). But live help fixed the issues quickly.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[belg4mit]

HostGator. I've used BlueHost too, but HostGator's been more responsive and techie friendly.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[dgatwood]

And there's a hosting provider that has never made a billing error?

The only people who could get seriously screwed by such a mistake are people who paid for a service costing hundreds or thousands of dollars on a debit card. Those folks have reason to be angry if they got hit with overdraft fees, but most banks will refund those fees (since the charge that caused them was in error) assuming the person calls the bank and explains the situation.

Most of their customers probably didn't even notice it unless they hit a monthly billing cycle within about a two or three day period....

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[petermgreen]

Personally I wouldn't put my name registrations and my hosting (ideally including DNS hosting) in the same place. There are a couple of reasons for this.

Firstly afaict when the shit hits the fan at a domain name register it is common for the entries in the registery to stay in place but the admin interface to be down. When the shit hits the fan at a hosting provider it is very likely that everything they host goes down. So if your registeration and hosting are at the same provider and the shit hits the fan there you are screwed.If your registration and hosting are at different providers and the shit hits the fan at your regsitration provider you will probablly be ok in the short term. If your registration and hosting are at different providers and the shit hits the fan at your hosting provider then you can move hosting provider.

Secondly it seems prudent to minimise the chance of disputes with a company who can hold your domains hostage by not using them for anything but domain registration.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[petermgreen]

What gets me about HE is they don't seem to post their prices anywhere on their website (with the exception of a link advertising ip transit for $1/mbps but giving no details on what requirements you have to meet to get that price...). Their web hosting signup page even asks for credit card details without telling you how much you will be paying!

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[cyberchondriac]

I'll second the Bluehost recommendation. I've used them for years, no complaints. However, I used GoDaddy to register my domain eons ago (and have the auto annual renewal, which is coming up shortly) Who would you recommend in place of GD? They were always pretty cheap.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[heypete]

Good advice. In my case, Gandi is my registar and web host (I rather like their hosting plans, as they tend not to suck), but the DNS is provided by CloudFlare (who sits in front of the site as a reverse proxy). If needed, I can have CloudFlare point the DNS elsewhere until the S stops HTF.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[Kalriath]

Well, that particular billing error is actually quite unique in it's incompetence, overshadowed only by the PR catastrophe which followed when they issued a flippant apology fronted by a shirtless photo of their awfully happy looking founder (indicating that this was the individual to blame).

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[ryanov]

My organization uses HostRocket. I've heard of people recommending BlueHost.

Re:Who instead of Go Daddy?

[ryanov]

NameCheap. Switched a year or so ago. They're like under $10 and have given me no trouble. Their web interface also seems superior, and they support Dynamic DNS. Seems like you can't get quite as close to the actual text of the zone file. But they offer free DNS (completely free) so you can see if it meets your needs first.

Pachyderm's Revenge

[Penurious Penguin]

Perhaps it was this.

Unorthodox business practices. DON'T DO BUSINESS!

[yooy]

By chance GoDaddy holds one of my domain since several days for ransom. Expiration date is tomorrow and they wont release it and delaying, reviewing, delaying. Requesting me to write them from an email under the domain name, not realizing that I am already doing this and they actually answering me to an email under the exact domain name. I guess to force me to renew with them due to the expiration date is their goal. Well, they manged. I have to renew today and now I can't even do that. The review60 team at GoDaddy is a class of its own. Besides shooting elephants, half naked girls and SOPA support, they just show unorthodox, unprofessional, possibly illegal business practices. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THEM! (The DOS attack is not their fault)

Try namecheap.com or internet.bs insteat. woT

[yooy]

Try namecheap or internet.bs insteat. woT

Re:Here's what you do.

[MrLizard]

Can I wave?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0n2vurSBIQ

Anyway, my site (mrlizard.com) is hosted at GoDaddy and seems to still be up, so both my readers can rejoice.

Yes and yes. Conclusion? Move away ASAP! woT

[yooy]

Yes and yes. Conclusion? Move away ASAP! woT

For shared hosting

[tepples]

My site is on Go Daddy shared web hosting. How does one use a third-party DNS in such an environment? I thought using a third-party DNS required at least that a site have its own dedicated IPv4 address, not the single IPv4 address shared among a thousand unrelated sites that is typical of name-based virtual hosting.

Re:For shared hosting

[gQuigs]

Nope, not required at all. In most cases that "magic" (multiple hosts on one IP) is handled by Apache, which trusts whichever host you say you want.

Re:For shared hosting

[csnydermvpsoft]

Name-based virtual hosting doesn't care at all who the DNS provider is. The browser resolves the IP address via DNS, then connects to the server and includes the desired hostname in the request header.

Unless GoDaddy doesn't allow it for some reason, there's no reason that you can't use a different DNS provider, or even keep them as your primary but add a third-party secondary. Though I would be hesitant to stay with them for any services, regardless - they've already shown that their DNS infrastructure - which is arguably among the easiest services to make extremely fault-tolerant - was not able to handle this attack; I wouldn't have high hopes for their other infrastructure.

Re:For shared hosting

[tepples]

Gandi handles the domain registration, but Go Daddy handles the DNS because that gives Go Daddy the ability to move my site to a different server if needed. If I were to use third-party DNS, I wouldn't know when Go Daddy has moved my site.

Re:Unorthodox business practices. DON'T DO BUSINES

[Anonymous Coward]

Pay them off, then dispute the charge. GoDaddy loses the money and gets docked the chargeback fee (up to $100)

DDoS?

[maitai]

Honestly, it looks more like a routing issue to me. Our production servers can't reach Godaddy's DNS servers at all, but other computers in the same NOC (different IP blocks) have no issue. Our in office server and desktops (as well as my home server and computers) also have no issue with contacting Godaddy's DNS servers.

I could be wrong of course. But I'm really only experiencing issues with contacting Godaddy's DNS servers from certain machines while others have no issue at all (can't get to their website from anywhere though).

Re:DDoS?

[Bryansix]

It looks like you may be right. At least that is what GoDaddy is saying now. http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/09/11/go-daddy-network-issues-not-hackers-or-ddos-caused-outage/

"claim responsibility"? No, take credit

[udachny]

Saying that something that is even known as 'Anonymous' can 'claim responsibility' makes no sense.

A group, like the IRA can claim responsibility. The Anonymous can try and take credit.

WOOT!

[Anonymous Coward]

Danica Patrick, fossilized and covered in Farina!

I think this will backfire.

[Marble68]

So a bunch of non-profit groups I support are down thanks to these "activists".
SOPA opposition, "ends justify the means even if it means f*cking over everyone with our scorched earth actions", and the "if you were stupid enough to be supporting our enemy then you are just collateral damage because we are so right we're justified in harming you to make a point" aside, I don't think it will win them many fans.

Re:I think this will backfire.

[gQuigs]

If you are a non-profit paying GoDaddy for shared hosting, that's just a waste of money. Dreamhost has free shared hosting for 501(c)(3) non-profits http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Non-profit_Discount

If you do want to sign up consider giving me some referral money (10%): http://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?1066796

Re:I think this will backfire.

[graphius]

This pisses me off too, I have a friend who is a reseller so I bought some hosting from him (didn't know at the time it was godaddy) Now I have half a dozen domains and various websites and online tools. It would be a pain to move all of them.
No love lost for anonymous

Re:I think this will backfire.

[Anonymous Coward]

If you are a non-profit paying GoDaddy, you are probably undermining your own mission statement as well. GoDaddy supports torture, they are anti-free speech, they collect and use biometrics on their employees, they issue 'mock-options'. If you're a non-profit, they're pretty much your enemy. (Unless you're one of those astroturf fake grass roots non-profits, paid for by the for-profits).

Re:I think this will backfire.

[drinkypoo]

Thats great, except when the non profit you work for wants to have all those pretty tools website tools and templates that godaddy offers.

All the big webhosts have that kind of stuff. All of them. Cpanel, templates, automatic install of CMSes, although a lot only install Wordpress and maybe some kind of shopping cart.

Re:I think this will backfire.

[Marble68]

I think Anonymous deserves an apology?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57510432-83/go-daddy-sorry-about-the-outage-and-no-it-wasnt-a-hack/

Slashdot predates 4chan

[tepples]

Anonymous the hacktivist collective appears to have originated from the 4chan imageboard, which began operation in 2003, and it really wasn't known by the name Anonymous until a Fox affiliate gave the group that name in mid-2007. Slashdot predates 4chan by several years.

Re:Slashdot predates 4chan

[ildon]

Whooosh.

Re:Slashdot predates 4chan

[tepples]

Slashdot predates 2ch by 20 months.

Re:Be Consistent

[EmagGeek]

Isn't that how leftists think? Do as I say, not as I do.

godaddy.com site

[synapse7]

Seems to be up.

Re:Maybe APK is right

[Farmer Tim]

Careful...say those letters three times in a row and he appears to drag the forum down into a morass of insanely long, boring and redundant posts congratulating himself for his genius in compiling a list.

Webhost suggestions?

[Bonker]

So back during the SOPA thing, I had a lot of real life matters going on that were somewhat more important than taking time to look for a new DNS and webhost. I contented myself with taking the ten minutes necessary for writing a nasty letter, got on with my pressing business, and SOPA died... for the time being.

Now, I happen to have a few spare moments to dedicate to looking for a new webhost, and Anonymous or AnonymousOwner or whoever has done me a favor by reminding me that Godaddy is not necessarily my friend.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd prefer somewhere that supports, or would let me install Ruby and Rails 3. Heroku seems to be the default Rails hangout, but frankly their pricing confuses the hell out of me.

Re:Webhost suggestions?

[gQuigs]

I'm on dreamhost and I really like the support, they usually get back to me quickly with a useful answer.

Anyway, I know absolutely nothing about Rails, perhaps this will help:
http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Ruby_on_Rails#Rails_3

Referral link (10%): http://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?1066796 [dreamhost.com]. The pricing is simple ($9.95 standard for 1 year term, -$1 per month for each year longer), and you can definitely find a better deal for the first year on dreamhost (but it's promotional first year).

Re:Webhost suggestions?

[jason777]

I believe everybody here is going to namecheap. I haven't switched mine yet because I'm using google apps and have to transfer all those settings. But due to this incident, I'm switching it as soon as godaddy is back up.

Re:Webhost suggestions?

[ryanov]

It's way less annoying than it seems like it's going to be.

The first thing they said was

[houghi]

who's your Daddy now?

Competitor Specials?

[noc007]

I wonder if GoDaddy's competitors will have domain transfer specials like they did during the SOPA shenanigans.

Re:Competitor Specials?

[noc007]

Apparently the coupon code BYEBYEGD is still valid at NameCheap. The only thing I liked about GoDaddy was I usually could find a coupon code that knocked the renewal down to $6-$7/domain/yr. I don't see a lot of coupons for NameCheap that would benefit someone renewing with them.

I guess this is a lesson in you get what you pay for.

obligatory..

[LodCrappo]

and nothing of value was lost

To those who say it is up

[notdotcom.com]

Godaddy is down to me. I'm currently using public WiFi, so I can't speak about their infrastructure, but "Error 137 (net::ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED): Unknown Error" seems to sum it up.

For all the dudes who're crying about

[orodos]

Losing business, etc. Sucks, but there's a trade-off when you decide to conduct business on the internet. Who cares whodunit, hacking is a part of e-culture. The internet is free, and there are some rad dudes out there expressing their freedom - just like you. You have some pretty unrealistic expectations if you expect 100% uptime. Honestly, life would be pretty boring if everything just worked like 'it should.'

Re:For all the dudes who're crying about

[stevenfuzz]

So, if a hacker took it upon themselves to get into your personal computer and steal it, maybe even destroy your hardware... would you be like... hey, I mean hackers, what are you going to do. I guess I can't be mad....

Nope.

[yooy]

Only the frontpage. You can't actually log in.

Good for business?

[sjbe]

They supported legislation which was purported to be good for business. In the end once they knew the details of the bill, they pulled their support.

Let's assume that what you say is true. That means they supported legislation that they did not understand which means they are stupid. Now lets assume they knew full well what was in the bill. That means they are, for lack of a better term, evil. So either they are stupid or they are evil or possibly both. Given the fact that GoDaddy is quite large enough to hire expensive lawyers and lobbyists capable of explaining the bill to them, I rather doubt that they did not know (or at least should have known) the contents of the bill prior to supporting or opposing it publicly. Given my experiences with GoDaddy I tend to favor that they are both stupid and evil but that's just my opinion. Lot's of things are purported to be "good for business". This doesn't make them all good ideas.

Portal.MicrosoftOnline.com Also Down Today

[glenmark]

I have no idea if there is any connection, though.....

IP is resolving, but nothing is passing through

[jayconverse]

My company's Exchange server's correct IP is resolving, and I can use OWA to send mail to internal recipients, but nothing sent to mail.{mycompany}.com is arriving.

So, Domain-Grabbing-Company #1 has gone down?

[someones]

YAY, Domain-Grabbing-Company #1 has gone down!

They got what they deserved.

I would have preffered another way like making domaingrabbing illegal all over the world and then suing them to hell.
Anon did it faster, but that wont be a long-term solution - what a pity.

I'm a big fan of all the posters...

[stevenfuzz]

Saying stuff like "GoDaddy is terrible, change providers if your Go Daddy site is down, don't bitch about it". Really? Are you serious? So, because in your opinion GoDaddy "sucks", this means it is ok that paying customers are losing service because of hackers? FU. Seriously. I don't have anything on GoDaddy, but I sure hope hackers take down the sites owned by anyone that things they are better than godaddy users.

Re:I'm a big fan of all the posters...

[bobbutts]

They are technically and politically inferior and they use sleazy sales tactics. It's an ignorant choice to use them exclusively for dns or any critical service and expect perfect uptime.

Re:I'm a big fan of all the posters...

[MechaStreisand]

People who use GoDaddy funded SOPA and fund all of GoDaddy's evil lobbying efforts. People who use GoDaddy deserve all the shit they get.

Re:I'm a big fan of all the posters...

[stevenfuzz]

Yes, and if you drink coke, I hope you get the plague. Watch ABC. Wear Nikes? You should have your feet cut off. ESPN. NFL. Sony. US Olympic Committee. Please. Wishing suffering on those who do not share your believes makes you a terrorist.

Re:I'm a big fan of all the posters...

[MechaStreisand]

Are you retarded? GoDaddy is 1) easy to avoid - nobody needs it, and anyone can choose another registrar or host. There are companies that are impossible to avoid, but GoDaddy isn't one of them. 2) GoDaddy is a high-profile supporter of SOPA: everyone knows that they lobbied for it (although some people are deluded enough to think that they stopped - they didn't). So everyone should know that they are evil and stop supporting them. If they don't, tough. You get what you deserve.

Wishing suffering on those who do not share your believes (sic) makes you a terrorist.

You're the one who said "I hope you get the plague," "You should have your feet cut off." and you're calling me a terrorist, you SOPA-supporting waste of skin? Go kill yourself.

Don't forget to disable PPC ads

[AlienSexist]

If you are affected by this DDoS you might as well disable any PPC ads you have with Google, etc. No sense in spending money to drive traffic to your site if it is unreachable.

Looks like it's the Name Servers

[patchouly]

It's more than sites that are simply hosted by GoDaddy. I host my own site on my own server and only use Godaddy's name servers. My site show up fine in Canada and in parts of the U.S., but to the rest of the U.S., it is gone.

Re:Looks like it's the Name Servers

[ryanov]

NameCheap offer free DNS hosting.

The Godaddy business model

[bobbutts]

Their plan is to advertise the most, so every idiot who decides to create a site on a whim chooses them. Complete the deal with insanely cheap promotional pricing. Then count on them being unwilling to face the technical challenge of switching to a reasonably priced host before their plan recurs at a heavily inflated price.

Not surprising

[JohnVanVliet]

It is not all that surprising
When all is said and done, I am betting that Go Daddy's LIKE for EOL fedora versions will have had a LARGE part

Go daddy likes fedora
they are ( were now) running
Fedora 1
Fedora 2
Fedora 3
Fedora 4
Fedora 5
Fedora 6
Fedora 7
Fedora 8
servers that they have KNOWING and WILLFULLY NOT patched or upgraded

and they are having users run commerce on OS's with KNOWN HOLES
The Linux help forums are always getting questions on HELP with a 6 to 14 version out of date fedora install

Re:Verisign FTW?

[druiid]

Sorry.... uhh... I didn't notice I wasn't logged in. This was me.

Glad to see them getting what they deserve

[mimicoctopus]

I used to be a GoDaddy customer until I got "fined" by them for some made-up claim of spamming. They said they'd take away all of my domains if I didn't give them $199 and I didn't have the resources to fight-back so I just gave them the money and then left their service shortly thereafter. Apparently, a lot of people have had the same issue. There was a whole thing about it on NoDaddy, but they eventually took that down somehow.

Re:Verisign FTW?

[druiid]

Actually, can someone just delete this entire comment tree and post for me? I'll flag it. Sorry!!

ASSumptions running rampant

[WaffleMonster]

A massive DDOS attack?

Anonymous claims what?

I think what we currently know is closer to NOTHING than rampant speculation might have one believe.

Re:ASSumptions running rampant

[crutchy]

because nobody uses dos anymore

Verisign Wins?

[druiid]

I'm assuming they're adding the Verisign DDoS protection service, but this change should make EVERY single Godaddy client very, very, very nervous (from the current whois):

            Domain Name: GODADDY.COM
            Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
            Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
            Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
            Name Server: A1.VERISIGNDNS.COM
            Name Server: A2.VERISIGNDNS.COM
            Name Server: A3.VERISIGNDNS.COM
            Status: clientDeleteProhibited
            Status: clientRenewProhibited
            Status: clientTransferProhibited
            Status: clientUpdateProhibited
            Updated Date: 10-sep-2012
            Creation Date: 02-mar-1999
            Expiration Date: 01-nov-2021

Yes, you read that right... they just implemented verisign name-servers. A multi-multi million (billion?) dollar company.

And in case anyone doesn't believe this:

> server a1.verisigndns.com
Default server: a1.verisigndns.com
Address: 209.112.113.33#53
Default server: a1.verisigndns.com
Address: 2001:500:7967::2:33#53
> www.godaddy.com
Server: a1.verisigndns.com
Address: 209.112.113.33#53

Name: www.godaddy.com
Address: 184.168.227.107

Previous IP addresses

[disago]

If someone wants to access Godaddy's service to change the NS of their domains just setup the hosts file with the following info:

97.74.104.201 www.godaddy.com
97.74.104.201 godaddy.com
216.69.149.48 affiliate.godaddy.com
216.69.149.90 idp.godaddy.com
216.69.149.215 mysq.godaddy.com
216.69.149.53 dns.godaddy.com
216.69.149.9 dcc.godaddy.com

AWS Route 53 will be a good bet for your next DNS hosting.

Re:Here's what you do.

[MrLizard]

Vaguely. I used to know/care a lot more than I do now. It was up when I wrote that, then down a bit later, now up again. It's worrisome. The loss of even one reader represents about a 50% drop in my traffic!

Cyber attack from Iran?

[taxman_10m]

I have trouble buying the tweet claiming credit. Retaliation for Stuxnet?

forever

[circletimessquare]

freedom is not something you fight for once and then retire. it requires constant maintenance, generation after generation. there's always some angle some asshole is trying to work, where they benefit and everyone else loses. people don't really get that

Re:so much for the 99.999% uptime

[Kalriath]

They're way over that. Their yearly downtime would have to be 5 minutes or less according to Google

Re:Verisign FTW?

[Kalriath]

No, this is Slashdot. Slashdot does not allow you to cover up your mistakes. There is no edit, and there is no delete. Your mistakes are immortalised in digital stone. Unless you post copyrighted Church of Scientology materials.

And did you consider that they changed their DNS so that their site comes back up? Presumably so they can post status messages, etc. It's considered good practice for hosts to have their own DNS physically isolated from their own network so that when stuff goes down, they can still let people know.

Re:Kill them

[crutchy]

You have obviously never read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War", because "Anonymous" is actually waging the most perfectly civilized war possible... zero death toll.

If anything you should be streaming abuse at the incompetent politicians of the world who send thousands of sons and fathers to their pointless deaths, and the greedy business leaders who pilfer billions of dollars of the hard earned living of the working middle class.

You are right that it has nothing to do with GoDaddy... but GoDaddy is pathetic example of a model corporate citizen, and by targeting GoDaddy, Anonymous is sending a message to others like it that there is nowhere to hide.

Re:Maybe APK is right

[crutchy]

lmfaoroflomfgapkisatotaldouche

Careful...say those letters three times in a row and he appears to drag the forum down into a morass of insanely long, boring and redundant posts congratulating himself for his genius in compiling a list.

so true... oh shit i think i can smell his stink now....

Re:so much for the 99.999% uptime

[rs79]

Maybe for last year. Maybe for next year. But this year is not looking so good.

Please see my reply to gQuigs

[tepples]

Unless GoDaddy doesn't allow it for some reason, there's no reason that you can't use a different DNS provider

To do so, I'd first need to know my site's IP address, and I don't for the reason I described in my reply to gQuigs.

Are you 12?

[DaKong]

Oh. I see. So, when the Bridgestone tires I bought fail catastrophically, then you would jump up and point your finger at me, saying, "Aha! See?! You ought to have done your research on the expansion coefficient of steel-belted radials *before* you bought those tires. Well, I did, because I'm a know-it-all Poindexter, so I. have. no. sympathy. for. you."

OK. In the real world, in technical fields you have to run 24/7/365 just to stay even with the people in *your* field. You don't have time to micro-manage every step of the chain between what you do and the end market (whatever that is). So saying that, gasp, a cancer researcher might have not fully vetted a mere domain registrar like GoDaddy before paying for their services and therefore it's his fault is puerile at best.

Re:Are you 12?

[LodCrappo]

Hmm.. while you seem to have missed the point entirely, you do help to make mine.

Of course, exactly as you say, a cancer researcher can not be expected to make sound technical decisions. I would never suggest that they could or should.
The problem in the OP's scenario is not that he make a *bad* technical decision. The problem is clearly that he made a technical decision at all. As you and he and I all seem to agree, he is not qualified to do so.

The fact that more care is not being taken by those managing something as potentially important as a cancer research project demonstrates irresponsibility at best. One would hope that those who do such work would not let something that is so simple to fix become an obstacle when expert assistance is so readily available.

Would I blame someone if they bought a set of tires from a reputable company and had an unexpected issue? Of course not. Would I blame them if instead they went out, bought the cheapest tires they could find and then installed the things themselves? Yes.

Re:Are you 12?

[ryanov]

No, but if after all of the hoopla went public, you didn't check to see if you might have those tires and you still underinflate your tires today, yes.

I have never killed a man

[Vegemeister]

I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure.

Re:Libel

[lpq]

The user from Arizona had a 98% match.

for gathering the same data from the same source it wouldn't be impossible to get a 100% match and have the data sources come from two different groups/sources.

It's like the probability of having 2 people with the same birthday in a 30 person class room being remarkably likely...

In this case they are focusing data collection on some single-group of people, that the data they collect comes up similar is statistically expected.

Re:Be Consistent

[ryanov]

* Citation needed.