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Is Mobile Broadband a Luxury Or a Human Right?

concealment sends this quote from an article at CNN: "Moderating a discussion on the future of broadband, Mashable editor-in-chief Lance Ulanoff tossed a provocative question to the audience: 'By quick show of hands, how many out there think that broadband is a luxury?' Next question: 'How many out there think it is a human right?' That option easily carried the audience vote. Broadband access is too important to society to be relegated to a small, privileged portion of the world population, Hans Vestberg, president and CEO of Ericsson, said during the discussion. Dr. Hamadoun Touré, secretary-general of the International Telecommunication Union, echoed Vestberg's remarks. 'We need to make sure all the world's inhabitants are connected to the goodies of the online world, which means better health care, better education, more sustainable economic and social development,' Touré said."

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  1. A Luxury by siphonophore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One must be careful about diluting the word "right." Leave it at 3, and protect them fiercely.

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    1. Re:A Luxury by bondsbw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When living your life often requires internet access, then it becomes a right.

      Living your life more often requires a car than internet access. Is owning a car a right? Do we all get free cars?

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    2. Re:A Luxury by Mephistophocles · · Score: 4, Insightful
      How incredibly naive.

      When living your life often requires internet access, then it becomes a right.

      I don't know whether to feel sorry for you or just be disgusted by the fact that you think one can't live one's life without internet access. What basic function of existence, exactly (and by the way, entertainment - as per your video machine rental analogy - isn't a basic function of existence) becomes impossible without the internet? How exactly do you think mankind lived before the internet existed (and by the way, I'm an old(ish) fart so I've spent more of my life without the internet than with it)?

      The number of examples where email/broadband availability is ASSUMED will increase in the future, because it is cheaper to remove human cost from the equation. Thus, the non-internet minority will become marginalized to an increasingly greater degree.

      And here you've committed a horrible and dangerous logical error, thereby missing the fact that marginalizing a segment of mankind because they a) can't afford a service, or b) choose - for whatever reason - not to spend money on that service, would be a pretty facist action. Whether or not it happens anyway isn't the issue; tacit acceptance of that happening (and thereby mandating that service as a human right) is.

      The internet is a wonderful thing - and access to it is certainly a nice thing to have. It does make some aspects of living in a 1st-world country very convenient (we can argue later about how convenience can and often does destroy skill, but for now we'll assume convenience is a good thing). But the absence of it does not make life unlivable. Anyone who says different probably works for Comcast. :)

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    3. Re:A Luxury by Kaz+Kylheku · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Here is a good way to express it. People have a right not to be ACTIVELY marginalized (i.e. singled out in some way and oppressed). People do not have a right not to be PASSIVELY marginalized (living in some disadvantaged way due to their own inability or inaction).

      Leftist "rights" advocates are not able to see the difference.

    4. Re:A Luxury by Maxx169 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but just because you've given them cute names doesn't mean that it's easy to distinguish between the two polar extremes in all but the most trivial of cases. You'll tend to find that most 'marginalized' people are there because of both active and passive factors to lesser and greater degrees. Those to the left perhaps draw the line in a slightly different place to where you'd personally place it.

    5. Re:A Luxury by kelemvor4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When living your life often requires internet access, then it becomes a right.

      Living your life more often requires a car than internet access. Is owning a car a right? Do we all get free cars?

      Plenty of people live without both, and neither one is a right. This is silliness that's being used to sell electronics.

    6. Re:A Luxury by BetaDays · · Score: 2

      Forget about cars. What about food, water, a place to sleep and stay warm. Shouldn't those be a right and placed first in line and not this internet thing that seems to just be a craze.

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    7. Re:A Luxury by msauve · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, it's a luxury. A "right" doesn't exist where you can demand that someone else buy you something (the child/parent relationship excepted). If the CEO of Ericsson disagrees, I'll need to know his address, so I can send him my Internet bill.

      Of course, what he's really saying is "Governments, through the force of taxation, should get the richer taxpaers to buy Internet connections for the poorer, increasing the market for my company."

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    8. Re:A Luxury by fche · · Score: 3, Informative

      "When living your life often requires [...something...], then it becomes a right"

      Hogwash. The world does not owe you survival. Your neighbour is not violating your "human rights" because he fails to donate you something "your life often requires".

    9. Re:A Luxury by readin · · Score: 2, Informative

      My initial reaction was the same, but having read some of the discussion I think there is a subtle distinction that needs to be made.

      You have a right to broadband but not an entitlement to broadband.

      That is, if the government makes it illegal to have broadband - then it is violating your natural right to be left alone, and your political right to freedom of speech (since broadband is a method of speech like the printing press).

      However, you do not have a right to have the government or anyone else provide the broadband for you. If you want to use broadband it is your responsibility to either build it yourself or to find someone who is willing to do it for you (perhaps in exchange for some form of payment).



      In recent years the distinction has become muddied by the constant mis-use of the term "right" such as when people claim that a refusal to pay for someone's contraception somehow violates that person's right to contraception.

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    10. Re:A Luxury by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When living your life often requires internet access, then it becomes a right. If everyone had provided the non-internet equivalent of the daily services, then maybe it would be a luxury

      Seriously???

      I mean, the internet is fantastically convenient...but there's nothing I couldn't do to live (eat, buy stuff, pay bills) without having an internet connection, and doing things the "old fashioned" way of like 8-10 years ago....

      A right? Give me a break.....

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    11. Re:A Luxury by gsgriffin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was just in Zimbabwe in small villages...people there couldn't care less about the Internet, and their lives won't be getting better because of it. You provide access, now they need a computer. They have a computer, now they need power. They need power, now they need money to pay for the power. Problem: They don't have money. Who's going to give everyone that?

      They live on a barter system and off the land they live on. This is a LOT OF THE WORLD. Make it available, sure, but most of them don't give a rip about it other than a curiosity. Teach their kids how to use it, and there aren't any jobs that will use it there.

      As a privileged person who lives much of their lives on the Internet, you can't imagine life without it. Meet a person in sustenance living conditions, and they don't see it as a right or a need...just a toy.

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    12. Re:A Luxury by gfxguy · · Score: 2

      Forget about cars. What about food, water, a place to sleep and stay warm. Shouldn't those be a right and placed first in line and not this internet thing that seems to just be a craze.

      I have a problem declaring "positive" rights at all, but if you're going to "grant" positive rights (these are not human rights, i.e. rights you should have simply by existing), then you should only grant positive rights to necessities. Necessities are the things you cannot live without. To this day, nobody has ever convinced me that includes anything beyond the commonaly accepted food/shelter/clothing. So no, internet, phone, TV, cars... luxuries all.

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    13. Re:A Luxury by gfxguy · · Score: 2

      How incredibly naive.

      When living your life often requires internet access, then it becomes a right.

      I don't know whether to feel sorry for you or just be disgusted by the fact that you think one can't live one's life without internet access. What basic function of existence, exactly (and by the way, entertainment - as per your video machine rental analogy - isn't a basic function of existence) becomes impossible without the internet? How exactly do you think mankind lived before the internet existed (and by the way, I'm an old(ish) fart so I've spent more of my life without the internet than with it)?

      You have to laugh... I once actually had to argue about how a microwave was not a necessity with some slashdotter once. So let's "grant" the Bushmen of the Kalihari free broadband so they can rent videos and stick it in some wildebeest's butthole for entertainment.

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    14. Re:A Luxury by Elbereth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is that Slashdot is full of technocrats who think that we live in post-scarcity world. Arguing over whether broadband internet access is a human right or not just shows how out of touch we are with the rest of the world, which is struggling just to survive.

    15. Re:A Luxury by reboot246 · · Score: 2

      The opposite of "luxury" is "necessity", not "right".

      A "right" is something you're born with simply by being human. It can't cost somebody else to provide you with something, because then your "right" is infringing on their rights -- in other words you're demanding part of their life be given to you.

      Yes, having internet access is a necessity for an increasing number of people, but that doesn't make it a right.

    16. Re:A Luxury by Fjandr · · Score: 2

      If only everyone posting here read and, more importantly, was actually capable of putting aside their biases long enough to understand what you wrote.

    17. Re:A Luxury by Dare+nMc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wouldn't use your definition to read this article, I would more use the American Convention of Human rights, to set a baseline:

      commits its parties to respect the civil and political rights of individuals, including the right to life, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, electoral rights and rights to due process and a fair trial

      From this I think internet in the US, meets that definition. To have a meaningfull say in the right to free speech, assembly, and information on how laws are interpreted... We are to the point where everyone needs to be given access to internet to defend these Human rights. Now the second part of the question is, does having that access freely available at public library still cover the need, or do we need to extend that to giving free access to anyone carrying say, a expired smartphone, like we do with dialing 911 and a dumb phone....
      I would come down on the side of "not a right" but I think the line is not nearly as far off, as your definition of rights goes. IE I don't think your definition of a right would include free speech.

    18. Re:A Luxury by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      Here is my definition of what a "right" is, and how it exists.

      You are on a desert island, all by your self. Everything you can or would do, is your "right". Everything else, is not.

      Rights exist, without effort or requirement of others. The moment a "right" (supposed) requires something of or from another, it is no longer a right. Period.

      This is a very simple and easy to describe definition that just works.

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    19. Re:A Luxury by CapOblivious2010 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Can you really not see the difference between the right to own a car (or use the internet) vs the right to have someone else (typically "the gov't", which really means "the taxpayers") pay for it so you can have it for free?

    20. Re:A Luxury by Arker · · Score: 2

      The right to a free press does not include a right to compel others to pay for your press, or to read it.

      That said, there is a right implied here, danced around - a right to contract for essential services without interference. If that right were being defended here, I would be all for it. Network neutrality, and deregulation to allow competition. Oh wait, they hate those ideas!

      So of course, nothing like that is actually going on. This is just a bunch of plutocrats trying to boost their profits by convincing governments to buy their products and then give them away, to boost their profit margins. What a waste.

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    21. Re:A Luxury by bondsbw · · Score: 2

      Of course, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

      We aren't talking about the right to purchase Internet service, and we aren't talking about the right to purchase cars. We are talking about the right to have those things provided by the government at no direct cost.

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    22. Re:A Luxury by Dare+nMc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A right doesn't equal funding or even government sponsored. IE the right to free speech, or bear arms doesn't equal no cost access to both, it does say undue restriction by government, ether by rule or cost is wrong. I would apply this to mobile internet. IE call it a right, so if the government, or provider ever bans a device because say the device didn't have a security back door for snooping, we have standing to say that is illegal, and mobile internet must not be overly restricted.

    23. Re:A Luxury by fche · · Score: 2

      "Society, via its instrument the government ..."

      It is tragic to have grown generations of people who think of "society" as equal to their "government", as opposed to "the group of fellow citizens", the latter of which is a much much larger set, at least in any free & viable state.

      "The alternative is to have no human rights at all."

      No. The alternative is a system of government that limits itself to protecting the classical - in wikipedia, called "negative" - rights.

      "The right to life? Meaningless if society can simply starve you to death."

      That is too vague to judge. "society" does not starve people to death.

  2. You have the right to pay for your own stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh spare us the human "rights" that involve other people paying for the stuff you want.

  3. Binary question by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A luxury or a human right. What there isn't a middle ground here?

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    1. Re:Binary question by CodeheadUK · · Score: 2

      Yep.

      It's a very handy/nice thing to have, but you can live without it.

  4. Right vs Good Idea by BenSchuarmer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not a right, but that doesn't mean it's not a good idea. I think societies will find that the benefits of setting it up are worth more than the cost.

    1. Re:Right vs Good Idea by lgarner · · Score: 2

      Not everything that's worth the cost so society is a profit-making venture. Police, Fire, public healthcare, and even public schools aren't profitable enterprises but are considered "worthwhile" because of the benefits that they provide to the public: health, education, safety.

  5. Rights versus someone else's property by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Rights are only appropriately applied to liberties. You never have the right to someone else's property or labor. Goods and services are not something you can have a "right" to.

    Access may be a compelling social good but it is absurd to call it a right.

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    1. Re:Rights versus someone else's property by vanyel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A right is something you can do, not something someone else does for you.

  6. Telephone by Zeromous · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a luxury stupid.

    50 years from now people will reminisce about cablemodem "party lines" and such, but just because a luxury is cheap, does not make it a human right.

    You have a inalienable human right to speak and to listen, but not to be heard (by whatever means of conveyance is completely irrelevant).

    Conveyance beyond your own two feet, larynx and lungs, is a luxury. Plain and simple.

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  7. There is a pretty wide disparity between... by jpstanle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is a pretty wide disparity between "Luxury" and "Basic human right."

    I'd hardly call indoor plumbing, 99.9% uptime electricity, or interstate highways to be "basic human rights," but they're pretty much essential for an modern, industrial society/economy.

  8. Silly false dichotomy by fischerville · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is the silliest of false dichotomies. It's not a luxury because it's so widely and cheaply available. It's not a human right because it's a proper commodity like everything else. Not everything that is desirable is a human right.

  9. Have a bunch of "rights" for you, from 1936. by Zeio · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here is a bunch of "rights" for you, fresh from the 1936 USSR constitution.

    CHAPTER X

    FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF CITIZENS

    ARTICLE 118. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to work, that is, are guaranteed the right to employment and payment for their work in accordance With its quantity and quality.

    The right to work is ensured by the socialist organization of the national economy, the steady growth of the productive forces of Soviet society, the elimination of the possibility of economic crises, and the abolition of unemployment.

    ARTICLE 119. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to rest and leisure. The right to rest and leisure is ensured by the reduction of the working day to seven hours for the overwhelming majority of the workers, the institution of annual vacations with full pay for workers and employees and the provision of a wide network of sanatoria, rest homes and clubs for the accommodation of the working people.

    ARTICLE 120. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to maintenance in old age and also in case of sickness or loss of capacity to work. This right is ensured by the extensive development of social insurance of workers and employees at state expense, free medical service for the working people and the provision of a wide network of health resorts for the use of the working people.

    ARTICLE 121. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to education. This right is ensured by universal, compulsory elementary education; by education, including higher education, being free of charge; by the system of state stipends for the overwhelming majority of students in the universities and colleges; by instruction in schools being conducted in the native Ianguage, and by the organization in the factories, state farms, machine and tractor stations and collective farms of free vocational, technical and agronomic training for the working people.

    ARTICLE 122. Women in the U.S.S.R. are accorded equal rights with men in all spheres of economic, state, cultural, social and political life. The possibility of exercising these rights is ensured to women by granting them an equal right with men to work, payment for work, rest and leisure, social insurance and education, and by state protection of the interests of mother and child, prematernity and maternity leave with full pay, and the provision of a wide network of maternity homes, nurseries and kindergartens.

    ARTICLE 123. Equality of rights of citizens of the U.S.S.R., irrespective of their nationality or race, in all spheres of economic, state, cultural, social and political life, is an indefeasible law. Any direct or indirect restriction of the rights of, or, conversely, any establishment of direct or indirect privileges for, citizens on account of their race or nationality, as well as any advocacy of racial or national exclusiveness or hatred and contempt, is punishable by law.

    ARTICLE 124. In order to ensure to citizens freedom of conscience, the church in the U.S.S.R. is separated from the state, and the school from the church. Freedom of religious worship and freedom of antireligious propaganda is recognized for all citizens.

    ARTICLE 125. In conformity with the interests of the working people, and in order to strengthen the socialist system, the citizens of the U.S.S.R. are guaranteed by law:

    freedom of speech;
    freedom of the press;
    freedom of assembly, including the holding of mass meetings;
    reedom of street processions and demonstrations.

    These civil rights are ensured by placing at the disposal of the working people and their organizations printing presses, stocks of paper, public buildings, the streets, communications facilities and other material requisites for the exercise of these rights.

    ARTICLE 126. In conformity with the interests of the working people, and in order to develop the organizational initiative and political acti

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    1. Re:Have a bunch of "rights" for you, from 1936. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Communism is not theoretically sound because it fails to account for the basics of human nature.

      I never said it was theoretically sound; my exact words were

      communism is just as theoretically sound as any other socioeconomic principle.

      The "basics of human nature" that you claim is the antithesis of communism also invalidate the thesis of capitalism, fascism, et. al.

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  10. Idiotic. by SecurityGuy · · Score: 2

    I'm glad to hear so many championing common sense. Of course it isn't a right. No one has a right to other people's property or the fruits of other people's labor, and that's what network connectivity of all kinds is.

  11. No rights here, move along. by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 2

    Only in nutville does a right mean using force to get someone else to give you something they have for free.

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  12. I'm confused? Mobile Broadband or Regular? by NinjaTekNeeks · · Score: 2

    Are we talking about broadband like home internet, or "mobile" broadband like phones and tablets?

    In either case, I don't believe they are a "right", they are a luxury. Hell, even electricity isn't a "right", try not paying your bill for a couple months.

  13. Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness by Revotron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Life: Can you survive without it? Yes.
    2. Liberty: Does not having it limit your freedom of speech, right to bear arms, right to a fair and speedy trial, or other consitutional rights? No.
    3. Pursuit of Happiness: Could you live a happy life without it? Yes.

    It is not a right to be bestowed upon you, it is an opportunity afforded to you by others. As such, others may request compensation for it.

    I'm getting sick of this new generation of entitlement.

  14. there's no such thing as natural human rights by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

    there's merely values a society holds dear. the success or failure of that society is based on what those values are and how dearly the society holds those values

    if it holds those values so fervently that it calls them natural human rights and fights and dies for such so-called rights, then that society will succeed if those rights indeed help the society thrive better than other societies with a different set of values. the human rights the USA holds dearly i think enriches the happiness and productivity of society enough that the USA succeeds as well as it does

    some other societies hold other values to the point of fighting to the death, which i will not name, but a review of current events will reveal what i am talking about. it is my assertion that those values those other societies will fight to the death for doom those societies to less happiness and less productivity and therefore the dustbin of history, eventually, as they are simply out competed

    as for mobile broadband, i can see a just society handing out cell phones to homeless and poor people to guarantee a baseline of voting rights and access to health records and financial abilities. but it will take time before cell phones reach that level of indisputable necessity and ubiquity. but we are definitely headed in that direction

    in other words: not yet, but someday, when your cell phone is your credit card, id, bank account, patient records, etc., you will need such access to be called a right

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  15. Do I have the Right? by Bodhammer · · Score: 2

    Do I have the Right to not have to pay for your perceived rights? I believe that life begins at germination, first cell division, and conception in mammals, just like most trained biologists say. I believe human abortion is human murder. Do I have the right to not pay for abortions even though you think you have the right to an abortion?

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  16. What "right" really means by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2

    I've always been puzzled by the grandiose term "right" when applied to something like healthcare or in this case broadband. I'm taking an ethics class and "right" in this context doesn't mean what we colloquially think it means; it's an academic term. It simply means that a society is making the decision that every citizen will have access to some thing or some service. I have a right to traffic signs and lights on my route to work. I have a right to electrical service so long as I pay for it. If my old school district ever went through with the policy, every high school student would have the right to a laptop.

    It has little to do with your inalienable Constitutional rights that are on a higher level. It's a poor choice of words when entering a civic debate when the terminology implies something quite a bit different.

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  17. Information Is A Right by tgeek · · Score: 2

    I paid Al Gore to invent the internet, I damn well better have the right to use it!

    But seriously . . . I believe access to information is (or should be) a right. By whatever means is the accepted norm for the times. For example, in colonial (US) days that might mean via public assembly, printed pamphlets or newspapers. As technology progressed so did the accepted norms -- from magazines to radio and television broadcasts to the internet and beyond. And I believe the government has some responsibility to ensure that all citizens have access to information.

    Am I saying every citizen should be issued a shiny new smartphone with the latest and greatest 4G plan? Of course not. But every single person should have at least some sort of internet access available to them - whether it's at a local library, school, town hall or some other public facility. Or even publicly funded private access for special cases such as a low income person who is an invalid/shut-in.

    I'm afraid if we treat access to information as a privilege or luxury rather than a right, we're going to start a slippery slope we'll never get back up. And we may have already started down it . . .

  18. A Luxury? by jiriw · · Score: 5, Informative

    None of those things are necessities for life. To survive, to be alive, I do not need to use on-line vendors.

    Here in the Netherlands we increasingly need to... Various government taxes already can only, be handled online. Currently the taxes that can only be handled online are those for all (small and large) businesses. And if those businesses refuse they are put out of business. Individuals can still get a paper form for their income tax but it's already strongly discouraged. More and more parts of the government are going an online-mostly or only route, not only for additional stuff but the essentials.

    Many businesses stopped sending bills through 'snail' mail. Most communication businesses (telephone, cable and internet providers) were the first to do so. Banks are decreasing their number of offices throughout the country rapidly. Most of the time only the major cities still have one (1) office where you can do your banking business. (Such an office would have to serve ten of thousands of customers if not a majority was doing his/ber banking online.) For the rest they only offer online services. The least expensive health-insurers (with the basic package) only offer you service if they can send bills electronically and medicine can only be ordered through an internet-apothecary (after you get a prescription by a certified GP or specialist of course).

    With other things, not interacting online causes a hefty financial penalty. Getting your receipts through mail is a value-added option, not included in the basic packages for those businesses still offering it that don't have to send you the actual goods by mail (like shops... which are cheaper most of the time, by the way, if you order the goods online). The best deals on contracts for electricity, cooking gas, all insurances, savings accounts, mortgages and other financial products, communication products, etc. are found online.
    If you want to access the educational system, you have to be online, if only it was to sign up for an actual school or university (for college education or equivalents or better).

    A person in the Netherlands which doesn't have access to the internet has either a very poor standard of living or a very high one (because he can afford to opt-out).

    I would say, here in the Netherlands the ability to have an internet connection capable of doing all this described above is a right. Of course that does not imply you should get a connection for free. You should still pay a proper (but also limited) fee for your connection if you decide to use the services of a provider that provides you with said internet connection. The providers however are (and increasingly so) regulated, for example, by means of laws for things like net-neutrality and the anti-telecoms-monopoly agency OPTA. And there are also government subsidies for providers willing to implement connections to places less profitable. Which is all fair, considering you can't really live in the Netherlands without having an internet connection of some sorts.

  19. No. by reiko13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Vint Cerf gives a very good answer, though that was for the Internet and not Mobile Broadband. "For example, at one time if you didn’t have a horse it was hard to make a living. But the important right in that case was the right to make a living, not the right to a horse. Today, if I were granted a right to have a horse, I’m not sure where I would put it." http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/opinion/internet-access-is-not-a-human-right.html?_r=0.

  20. And in Further News by kaatochacha · · Score: 2

    The CEO of Campbells Soup declares access to chicken noodle a "human right".

  21. Government? by cwsumner · · Score: 2

    A "right" is not something the govenments give to you. They are things that you have to prevent the governments from destroying. Repeatedly... Forever.