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An anonymous reader writes "Neal Stephenson's 1999 Cryptonomicon was a great yarn. It was also a thoroughly enjoyable (and too short) romp through some mathematics. Where can I find more of that? I should say that I don't want SF — at least none of the classic SF I read voraciously in the 70s; it's just not the same thing, and far too often just a puppet-theatre for an author's philosophical rant. Has any author managed to hit the same vein as Stephenson did? (Good non-fiction math-reads are also gratefully accepted. What have you got?)"

278 comments

  1. George Orwell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    After all, 2+2=5

    1. Re:George Orwell by gentryx · · Score: 1

      My wife will assure you that 1+1=3, or even 4, for sufficiently large values of me.

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    2. Re:George Orwell by jlv · · Score: 1

      Yes, but 2 + 2 = 5 is only a short story.

    3. Re:George Orwell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      for large enough values of 2

    4. Re:George Orwell by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      for large enough values of 2

      Only for small enough values of 5.

    5. Re:George Orwell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong! 2+2 is obviously 6.

    6. Re:George Orwell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      for really large values of 2

  2. Too short? by noahwh · · Score: 1

    As I recall Cryptonomicon is well over 1000 pages long.

    1. Re:Too short? by The+Moof · · Score: 2

      When talking length, we're not always talking about page count.

    2. Re:Too short? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you should interpret that as "in my opinion, although the book was over a thousand pages, the parts covering mathematics were too light and too few".

      Yes, I am captain Obvious, stating the obvious since 1986.

    3. Re:Too short? by mcvos · · Score: 1, Insightful

      But every one of those pages is interesting and exciting, unlike his other books, which tend to lose pace and focus after a brilliant start.

    4. Re:Too short? by dstyle5 · · Score: 1

      Except for Anathem, which has the most boring, uninteresting start to a book I've ever tried to read. After several attempts I've only made it a few chapters in.

    5. Re:Too short? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Except for Anathem, which has the most boring, uninteresting start to a book I've ever tried to read. After several attempts I've only made it a few chapters in.

      I've heard that a lot about Anathem, but for some reason I count it as one of the best books I've ever read. At a point later in the book there was a large chunk of almost straight dialog (about 50 pages) concerning various philosophical and metaphysical concepts. I was glued the entire time. However, in Quicksilver, a similar approach concerning economics left me bored to tears. I guess it's all about the subject.

    6. Re:Too short? by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      If it had 3000, it might be almost long enough.

    7. Re:Too short? by gmanterry · · Score: 1

      I've heard that a lot about Anathem, but for some reason I count it as one of the best books I've ever read. At a point later in the book there was a large chunk of almost straight dialog (about 50 pages) concerning various philosophical and metaphysical concepts. I was glued the entire time. However, in Quicksilver, a similar approach concerning economics left me bored to tears. I guess it's all about the subject.

      I loved Cryptonomicom and also Quicksilver. Quicksilver gave me an insight in how world economics developed. I never took any courses on economics and I found Quicksilver fascinating.

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    8. Re:Too short? by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Anathem is one of the best books I've read in years, and if the opening chapters don't grip you you're missing something badly. Having said that, most of Anathem's jokes are based on a strong knowledge of etymology and of the history of western (especially Greek) philosophy, so if you're not strong on those subjects a lot of it will go WHOOOOOSH over your head. But, that's just the same as most of Cryptonomicon's jokes requiring a knowledge of mathematics. Stephenson expects his readers to be well and widely read and to have an intelligent understanding of what they've read; he's not 'easy reading'.

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    9. Re:Too short? by kinarduk · · Score: 1

      I consume my books mostly in audio form now days, even with great voice acting Anathem was a hard and long 'read', but I'm glad I persisted as taken as a whole it was a great book.

    10. Re:Too short? by B'Trey · · Score: 1

      Except for Anathem, which has the most boring, uninteresting start to a book I've ever tried to read. After several attempts I've only made it a few chapters in.

      To each his own and different strokes makes the world go 'round, etc. But I found the first half of Anathem incredibly good and the second half (once they left the Math) much less exciting. Part of that may be because I'm a fan and amateur student of philosophy.

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    11. Re:Too short? by bmearns · · Score: 1

      You have to power through. I agree, the beginning is slow, but for what ever reason it didn't really bother me so I kept going, and after a little while I was really glad I did. It's currently my number one favorite book, with Diamond Age and Cryptonomicon following.

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    12. Re:Too short? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      and boring as hell to boot. at various points it seemed like the purpose, the intended direction of the story, would shift, then 100pgs later shift back again. like the writer tried to shoehorn in a different plot goal and then abandoned it. in the end it seemed like the story didnt arrive at any conclusion, no goal was reached, nothing. it just ended. after 1000 pages and three different time arcs. i made it through, but in the end it was just...blah. what was the point? what was the conflcit? what was the character development (didnt see any, just 1 dimension whole way through)?

      i tried to start the quicksilver books too...no go. I really dont see whats so popular about the writer among fellow nerds. the books fail to impress or interest me.

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  3. Tons of math fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHFICT/

    1. Re:Tons of math fiction by donaggie03 · · Score: 1

      This looks like it is exactly what was asked for. How is this not modded up?

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    2. Re:Tons of math fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy: the standards for that list are too lax.

    3. Re:Tons of math fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably because the people who saw it weren't wearing shades... luckily, I had mine on.

  4. Fadiman compilations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you seen "Fantasia Mathematica" and "The Mathematical Magpie", both edited by Clifton Fadiman? Lots of fun.

  5. Romney's Budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's great mathematical fiction.

    1. Re:Romney's Budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      you partisan bitches

      Wow! Projection.

    2. Re:Romney's Budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, it's fantasy.

    3. Re:Romney's Budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But OP needs something that's actually been written, not dictated ad hoc.

    4. Re:Romney's Budget by JWW · · Score: 3, Funny

      Obama's budget is a fairy tale with magical creatures called "taxes on the rich" which make everything better.

    5. Re:Romney's Budget by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      could just read a stock market ticker too. It's artificial numbers based on pretend money. It's like Monopoly but more fake.

    6. Re:Romney's Budget by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      Wow! Projection.

      Maybe, but I didn't take it that way. The point as written simply rails against partisanship.
      From what I can tell, anybody who really thinks either candidate is "the answer" is not thinking clearly.

      (no, I'm not the AC.)

    7. Re:Romney's Budget by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Wow! Projection.

      Maybe, but I didn't take it that way. The point as written simply rails against partisanship.

      From what I can tell, anybody who really thinks either candidate^W party is "the answer" is not thinking clearly.

      (no, I'm not the AC.)

      We're being given a binary choice between monsters who eat their own babies and monsters who will eat everyone else's babies. And we're accepting it. People call themselves Libertarian, but vote Republican. People call themselves "Tea Party" vote Republican. Even some Democrats vote Republican. Republicans who vote Democrat are virtually extinct at the moment, and even suggesting to compromise gets you accused of the heresy of being a RINO. People are so afraid that the wrong lizard will get in that they won't even stand up for their own lizards.

    8. Re:Romney's Budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They plan to rob the rich because robbing the poor is not as productive. (Duh! If the poor had any real money, they would not be 'the poor'.)

    9. Re:Romney's Budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As I recall, the taxing the rich worked during the great depression under FDR. It is where the government, at the time, got some of the money for the project that got the economy back on track. The other source of money came from loans. It has been said that the tax programs during the great depression was a redistribution of the wealth.

      As all ways in the USA, this push & pull of who, why, how to value what someone gets pay is always in debate. We have minimum wage so companies and people do not exploit other people too much; it was learned the hard way in the USA and is still debated. We, the USA, as a people are not good at 4 sight but do work hark after the fact to try and work things out; at least it has been in the past.

      The interesting thing in this election is that both parties are too polarized to work together; which is pointing us closer and closer to a one party ruling. Which is not the middle ground that we need to move forward as a group. It does however enrages the other side to take action while the party that is in power loses its voters due failed policy or they become complacent. Either way the next 8 to 12 years will decide the fate of the USA. I for one hope it will be a good one.

  6. Greg Egan by Edward+Coffin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try something by Greg Egan. His short story Glory (pdf) is online.

    1. Re:Greg Egan by vux984 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I was thinking Greg Egan as well; Schild's Ladder in particular, along with Permutation City pop to mind.

      And much of the work under the moniker of "Hard SF" might appeal to the submitter, since it tends to be backed by real math, physics, and chemistry and often delves into the details.

    2. Re:Greg Egan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Egan's latest, "Clockwork Rocket", is probably his most mathy work to date. It takes place in a different universe (dubbed "Orthogonal") with its own distinct physics: the speed of light is different for different colors; gravity is an inverse-linear force as opposed to inverse-square; and don't even ask what's going on at the subatomic level (are there even atoms in this universe? It's not quite clear this early in the trilogy...)

      Anyway, the book's got diagrams and everything, so if math and physics are your thing, you'll have lots of fun with this one.

    3. Re:Greg Egan by Owyn · · Score: 1

      Came here to second that. Greg Egan's Diaspora is really mathy and quite good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_(novel)

    4. Re:Greg Egan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, third'ed. Greg Egan is one of the best authors of scientifically possible fiction.

      http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/

    5. Re:Greg Egan by gknoy · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the reminder of his work: I read that story years ago, and loved it. I'll have to go seek out the rest of his work now.

    6. Re:Greg Egan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you enjoy reading a fictional story set in a universe with completely different physical laws, I recommend a web comic called Unicorn Jelly. The creator of the comic has a bad reputation in some parts of the Internet, but never mind that because the comic is worth reading.

      In this universe, there is no force of gravity; instead there is a force called "linovection" that pulls things in a single direction. In other words, there is an objective "up" and "down" in this universe.

      Also, the mass of objects affects how strongly linovection pulls on them, so fine dust can float in the air, but normal everyday-sized objects fall like we expect. But there are "world plates" that remain locked in a lattice-like formation because of another force that applies on that scale.

      In this universe, things are not even made out of atoms; they are made out of "tratons". So to even visit this universe you must undergo a nontrivial change...

      Finally, it is explicitly a closed universe of finite size, which has important implications on the plot. It starts off looking like some sort of harmless silly anime-inspired comic, but big things happen after a while. The story has a definite beginning, middle, and end; and it is complete.

      http://unicornjelly.com/

      It is by far the best of the comics by Jennifer Diane Reitz. If you like it, you might try reading some of her other stuff (like the follow-on project "To Save Her"). If you don't like Unicorn Jelly, then don't even bother with looking at her other stuff.

    7. Re:Greg Egan by Beetle+B. · · Score: 3, Informative

      I second Greg Egan. For a taste, here's a free short story.

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    8. Re:Greg Egan by nospam007 · · Score: 2

      Google gives this:
      'At the moment, there are 1089 works of mathematical fiction listed in this database.'
      http://kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHFICT/all.php

    9. Re:Greg Egan by LourensV · · Score: 1

      Also, don't forget to go by Egan's homepage to play some quantum soccer. It has a collection of Java applets demonstrating various things from his books, and some free stories too. Seriously geeky!

  7. Try Neal Stephenson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    > Has any author managed to hit the same vein as Stephenson did?

    Yes, he's called Neal Stephenson: Baroque Cycle is certainly not too short, and Anathem is beautifully mathematical.

    1. Re:Try Neal Stephenson by El+Micko · · Score: 1

      Couldn't agree more.
      I've only just started the Baroque Cycle with Quicksilver but its true to form (I've enjoyed everything of Stephenson's)
      Anathem is wonderful read.

  8. flatland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    flatland, a romance of many dimensions;
    (http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~banchoff/Flatland/)

    1. Re:flatland by Pawnn · · Score: 1

      I recommend Flatland as well. Read it as a teen and enjoyed it. Read it again a few years ago and enjoyed it again.

    2. Re:flatland by mikael · · Score: 1

      Delightful night-time reading - nothing violent or scary. About the greatest hazard are the triangular buildings with sharp corners.

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    3. Re:flatland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The sequel "Flatterland" (by Ian Stewart, who also wrote "The Annotated Flatland", which is exactly what it says on the tin, and contributed to the excellent "Science of Discworld" trilogy) and parallel novel "The Planiverse" (by A. K. Dewdney) are also quite good.

      Flatterland covers a lot of advanced math and physics, via the adventures of A. Square's great-granddaughter Victoria Line, while The Planiverse examines what physics, chemistry, biology, and societies would be like in a two-dimensional universe.

    4. Re:flatland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the unfortunate, archaic presentation of women.

    5. Re:flatland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the women

    6. Re:flatland by ClickOnThis · · Score: 3, Informative

      flatland, a romance of many dimensions;
      (http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~banchoff/Flatland/)

      Yes, recommended. I enjoyed it, although one has to look past the misogyny in its pages. (It was written in 1884.)

      I also recommend the 1965 novel Sphereland for those who would enjoy a sequel with a more non-Euclidian treatment.

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    7. Re:flatland by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 1

      Another note for The Planiverse, which I read long before Flatland and much preferred -- the older novel was a disappointment by comparison when I finally managed to track it down.

    8. Re:flatland by sootman · · Score: 1

      That title always reminds me of the short-but-great "The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics" by Norton Juster. (Kids books are worth a mention 'cause hey, why not! They're fun!) Also, "The Phantom Tollbooth", again by the wonderful and talented Mr. Juster. If you like math, you may also like puns and sly humor about math and other subjects. I read "Tollbooth" as a kid (maybe 6th grade or so) and liked it just fine, then I stumbled upon it again in college and re-read it and was *amazed* at all the stuff it had in it.

      Not the best quote in the book by far, but math related:

      "Why, did you know that if a beaver two feet long with a tail a foot and a half long can build a dam twelve feet high and six feet wide in two days, all you would need to build Boulder Dam is a beaver sixty-eight feet long with a fifty-one-foot tail?"

      "Where would you find a beaver that big?" grumbled the Humbug as his pencil point snapped.

      "I'm sure I don't know," he replied, "but if you did, you'd certainly know what to do with him."

      His only philosophical rant is "be a good person and don't waste your life." :-)

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    9. Re:flatland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I felt that the misogyny in flatland was quite sarcastic..

    10. Re:flatland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, recommended. I enjoyed it, although one has to look past the misogyny in its pages. (It was written in 1884.)

      Tell me about it! Before the invention of Girl Power in the 1990s it was literally impossible for any book, much less a work of social satire, to make a point about the status of women. O! if only someone like Scary Wollstonecraft Spice had been alive and publishing two hundred years earlier how differently history might have developed.

    11. Re:flatland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And women... of course, that can be left unsaid.

    12. Re:flatland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell her you're a circle, Flatland gals are all hot for circles.

  9. Hofstadter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I found Douglas Hofstadter's "Gödel, Escher, Bach" to be at least as engaging as any Stephenson-esque fiction I've ever read.

    1. Re:Hofstadter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hostadter also wrote "Metamagical Themas" - both the book and the articles in Scientific American for some time. Those two books were some of the best reads I've ever enjoyed.

    2. Re:Hofstadter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Spoiler: they all die in the end.

    3. Re:Hofstadter by ReverendLoki · · Score: 2

      I was thinking the same. Keep in mind, it's not fiction (there are fictional elements in it, more like fables to illustrate the points made), and it's more like a general essay/introduction to logic, paradox, intelligence and what it means, recursion, and similar topics. You may find yourself covering topics you are already familiar with, depending on your experience, but it's still a good read.

      You can read a better summation on Wikipedia

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    4. Re:Hofstadter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And in Mathematical Themas he actually has a speculative math story, though it's very short. The premise is a world where pi is exactly three, but I won't spoil the ending.

    5. Re:Hofstadter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Many years ago I tried to read "Gödel, Escher, Bach", but I found it way too wordy and circuitous. I had the impression just like to hear himself talk (or watch himself write), and despite the raving reviews it had at the time, I've never met anyone who had read the whole thing. So I'm glad to hear many years later that some people appreciated it.

    6. Re:Hofstadter by InEnacWeTrust · · Score: 1

      +1 to that. Plus it has been well translated into various languages (don't know if the OP is a native english speaker). The end tends to be somewhat more difficult to go through but is still as enjoyable.

  10. Flatland: A Romance Of Many Dimensions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well over a hundred years old and well ahead of it's time.

    1. Re:Flatland: A Romance Of Many Dimensions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And so is your baroque use of the apostrophe.

    2. Re:Flatland: A Romance Of Many Dimensions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love Flatland too, and Sphereland is a great follow-up. It's written by a different author, but it uses the same style to tackle a more complex subject.

  11. Surreal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You may enjoy "Surreal Numbers: How Two Ex-Students Turned on to Pure Mathematics and Found Total Happiness. " Donald Knuth, 1974. Dixit wikipedia: "This book is a mathematical novelette, and is notable as one of the rare cases where a new mathematical idea was first presented in a work of fiction." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surreal_number)
    Enjoy.

  12. The Story of O by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Story of O by Pauline Reage is the fascinating account of the discovery of the number in ancient Mesopotamia.

    1. Re:The Story of O by Seraphim_72 · · Score: 0

      Truely you are a well read person quite deserving of mod points I sadly cannont give.

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  13. Not fiction but... by Empiric · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...Tracy Kidder's Pulitzer winner -reads- like good fiction.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Soul_of_a_New_Machine

    In terms of "dramatizing math", I'd have to give it the nod even over Cryptonomicon.

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    1. Re:Not fiction but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have some not fiction too. In my math history class, my professor assigned "Journey through Genius: The Great Theorems of Mathematics" by William Dunham, which I preread during the summer. It may be outdated (1991), but still worth a read.

      I also preread another math history book for that class, hundreds of pages if I recall. It turns out she only assigned like less than 30 pages out of the book to read.

      Is "The Soul of a New Machine" considered mathematics despite it being computer themed?

    2. Re:Not fiction but... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      That was indeed a very good read. Although it's been over 20 years since I read it, though, I don't remember anything about math. It was mostle internal politics at DEC and differing design philosophies.

    3. Re:Not fiction but... by mantissa128 · · Score: 1

      I second this emotion - a great read. "No mode bit!"

  14. "A Subway Named Mobius" by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful
  15. on the non-fiction side by new+death+barbie · · Score: 5, Informative

    Godel, Escher, Bach, by Douglas Hofsteder
    The Mind's I, co-edited by Douglas Hofsteder and Daniel Dennett
    One, Two, Three... Infinity by George Gamow
    Flatland, by Edwin Abbott Abbott (okay, this one is fiction)
    anything by Martin Gardner

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    1. Re:on the non-fiction side by stunted · · Score: 1

      My First ever pop maths book was Fermat's Last Theorem by Simon Singh, damn good romp through the history & philosophy of maths and that spacific problem.

      Not actually very mathsy tho

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    2. Re:on the non-fiction side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some other non-fiction delights:
      "The Nothing That Is" by Robert Kaplan
      "Innumeracy" by John Allen Paulos

      100% support for the suggestions of GEB, "The Mind's I" (not much of maths there though), and just about anything by Martin Gardner.

      The American Mathematical Society (or was it Society of...?) website has some weekly or monthly articles in the same style that can be extremely nice.

      Here's my biggest tip if you thirst for mathematical adventure:
      Wikipedia and OEIS.

      For Wikipedia start with whatever random mathematical thing you might like or dislike and then explore the links.
      For any sequence you can come up with do the same using OEIS.

      Hours of fun guaranteed for anyone who enjoys mathematics and/or numbers! I'm a failed non-mathematician with mostly rudimentary knowledge but I love this kind of abstract exploration of numerical patterns; it doesn't take much to venture into uncharted territory (likely useless territory but easily beautiful and entertaining).

      If all else fails mess around with primes in any creative/improvised but structured fashion you can think of --no rules except the ones you make :) Or try to represent Golomb rulers differently, or anything at all that strikes your fancy as you throw numbers and methods wildly around you in a hunt for patterns.

      Introduce "unnecessary" odd but structured/consistent stuff to bring out new properties, manipulate or mutate graphical representations to see where the trails lead, "doodle".

      Also: pen and paper, lots of it, you often won't get a feel for the scenery unless you write those numbers (or draw graphical representations of problems/relations/values etc.) yourself by hand even if it gets tedious (the very interesting stuff is often far more tedious on a computer) and it gives a flexibility in ordered/structured graphical representation that lends itself to finding odd and interesting stuff :)

    3. Re:on the non-fiction side by arun_s · · Score: 1

      Great list. Some other good mathematical non-ficiton books I've liked are:
      Anything by Marcus du Sautoy (Music of the Primes, Finding Moonshine)
      Dr.Riemann's Zeros by Karl Sabbagh
      Unknown Quantity by John Derbyshire
      Alex's Adventures in Numberland by Alex Bellos

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  16. Flatland: A Romance Of Many Dimensions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Over a hundred years old and well ahead of it's time.

  17. Goldbach's conjecture by expatriot · · Score: 1

    Uncle Petros and Goldbach's Conjecture: A Novel of Mathematical Obsession http://www.amazon.com/Uncle-Petros-Goldbachs-Conjecture-Mathematical/dp/1582341281

    1. Re:Goldbach's conjecture by Guignol · · Score: 1

      There is also the logicomix from the same author (apostolos doxiadis)

    2. Re: Goldbach's conjecture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although it was actually a good "read" that was asked for, I'll nonetheless offer up a bit of fiction in video format that features Goldbach's conjecture:
      The Calculus of Love.

  18. Oo oo! I've got one! by RedBear · · Score: 1, Funny

    How about the Romney/Ryan economic recovery "plan". It's gotta qualify as mathematical fiction.

    1. Re:Oo oo! I've got one! by Oh+Gawwd+Peak+Oil · · Score: 4, Funny

      I took a number out of the Romney/Ryan economic recovery plan, and multiplied it by itself to see what would happen. I got a negative number. Why would that be?

      I took another number and multiplied it by itself, and got another negative number. In fact, every number I took from that plan and multiplied by itself, I got a negative number!

      How could that be?

    2. Re:Oo oo! I've got one! by ScentCone · · Score: 1, Troll

      No, no. There's a better one. The Obama campaign just came out with an actual glossy printed brochure that they say finally provides his plan to create jobs. Other than the fact that it doesn't contain any (let along any new) actual information and that it's nothing more than aspirational plans to borrow more money from elsewhere and spend it like the last round of stimulus money, but mostly on transient government jobs that don't actually create anything ... other than that, I'm told that the graphics and the quality of the paper are very nice. They indicate that they're going to print several hundred thousand and slip them under the door of undecided voters. Now there's some quality fiction for you.

      I would like to see the math basis for borrowing and taxing the economy into prosperity, though. Especially the part on taxes. The actual math says that if you taxed rich people at 100% of their earnings, it wouldn't even close the government's spending deficit past the month of May in a given year. So, some math fiction that gets creatively around that unpleasant detail would be good reading indeed.

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    3. Re:Oo oo! I've got one! by DiegoBravo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I just took the actual Obama recovery results and got negative numbers without having to multiply by anything...

  19. Ready Player One by Jim+Hall · · Score: 1

    I know you asked for math-reads, but you also asked for books like Stephenson. I just finished reading Ready Player One which I found to be a lot like Gibson and Stephenson, but better. (For example, RPO actually has an ending.) It has a good cyberpunk feel, and a realistic world. The way he described the dystopian near-future society reminded me of Stephenson's Diamond Age or Snow Crash, or Gibson's Virtual Light trilogy.

    1. Re:Ready Player One by Bill+Hayden · · Score: 1

      I just finished reading Ready Player One which I found to be a lot like Gibson and Stephenson, but better. (For example, RPO actually has an ending.)

      Regarding Stephenson's inability to write an ending, amen! He's one of my favorite writers, but he can't tie up a book to save his life. Diamond Age was the worst -- great book, but virtually nothing is resolved at the end. I'd never heard of Ready Player One, but it sounds great and I've already got it on order. Thanks!

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    2. Re:Ready Player One by FiloEleven · · Score: 2

      I think Stephenson takes an eternal and unjust beating about his endings. His books end when the major conflicts are in a position to be resolved by a thinking reader. There's no "and they lived happily ever after," but there is always a sense that all of the key pieces are in the right place and the outcome is decided in that the people we want to come out on top will come out on top. Chess is a very apt metaphor, in my mind: when he stops writing, you know that the Bad Guys are outmaneuvered and trapped in a corner. Does he really need, considering that he tends to be free with his words as it is, to write another thirty pages in order to gift-wrap a final outcome that is already easily imagined by an engaged reader?

      Don't get me wrong; I appreciate books that have those kinds of endings. But Stephenson is more concerned with the interesting conflicts, the multiple disparate threads that weave and tangle with each other. When the massive knot becomes a loose collection of simply-twisted loops, he loses interest. I don't find that to be a fatal flaw at all, and I respect that he wants to devote all of his energy to the engaging events leading up to the point where a resolution is inevitable instead of spending a lot of time on the resolution itself.

      Take The Diamond Age, for instance, the ending of which a sibling comment laments. (Spoilers follow.) We end with Nell essentially leading an army of girls who are ready to take on the status quo, and with the decentralized Seed in a position to overtake the top-down economics of the Feed. The implication is that these two things, both on their own and taken together, are forces that can and will reshape the world they inhabit. To me, in a way, it's like politics: as soon as you start to get into the details of the resolution, you're going to alienate people who think it should have taken a different path.

    3. Re:Ready Player One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ready Player One is derivative pulp SF with a bunch of random references from Topless Robot thrown in to make 30-somethings squeal "OMG I remember that!" and is nothing like Stephenson.

  20. Oh, you want mathematical _fiction_ by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought you wanted fictional mathematics and was going to point you to arXiv.

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    1. Re:Oh, you want mathematical _fiction_ by lurker1997 · · Score: 1

      If you want real fictional mathematics, look for some of the works of El Naschie.

  21. Three non-fiction suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Everything and more", by David Foster Wallace.
    "Mechanizing Proof", by Donald Mackenzie.
    "Dreaming in Code", by Scott Rosenberg.

  22. Neverness by David Zindell by shadowdelta · · Score: 2

    Captured my attention when I was in high school and I re-read it every few years. It was the first SF that I had ever read that made mathematics a central part of its story.

    1. Re:Neverness by David Zindell by mprinkey · · Score: 1

      This. The whole series is very well done and deeply engaging. But it is dense. It might be best described as fictional mathematical physics, but it is not your typical SF...even hard SF.

  23. The Spade of Reason by Jim Cowan by Picass0 · · Score: 1

    Originally published in “The Year’s Best Science Fiction” in 1997

    http://www.spadeofreason.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Spade-of-Reason.pdf

  24. The Man Who Loved Only Numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The story of Paul Erdos - It's Non-Fiction, but is one of my favorite mathematics oriented books.

    Amazon link:
    http://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Loved-Only-Numbers/dp/0786884061

  25. Recommended Non-fiction maths books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't think of many mathematical fiction books apart from Flatland, which I assume you heard of, and is rather a thin tome anyway. I'd mostly suggest mathematical biographies as the way to go:

    The Man Who Loved Only Numbers - The biography of Paul Erdös
    The Music of the Primes - by Marcus du Sautoy
    Genius - the biography of Richard Feynman - author James Gleick(?)
    Chaos - a book on chaos theory and fractals, also by James Gleick
    The Code Book - Simon Singh
    Fermat's Last Theorem - Simon Singh
    Gödel, Escher, Bach - Douglas Hofstadter
    A Beautiful Mind - The biography of John Nash
    A New Kind of Science - Stephen Wolfram (bit of a doorstep, this one!)

    Of these, the Music of the Primes is probably the one I most recommend because it details the historical approach towards the Riemann hypothesis. Over the centuries, many mathematicians have taken a crack at this problem - and made the occasional advance here and there - so it's a really good set of name checks for other mathematical biographies to track down. Gives you an overview of the entire field of mathematical endeavours over the centuries.

    Finally, some other names to look out for - Alan Turing, Euler, Gauss and possibly some of the Greeks. Here's a passable list of 'greatest mathematicians' http://fabpedigree.com/james/greatmm.htm and I don't see much in that list to quibble over.

  26. Doxiadis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolos_Doxiadis

    Not sure if it's what you are looking for but I read both the book and the comic and I enjoyd them and happily recommend it

  27. Knuth! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Surreal Numbers: How Two Ex-Students Turned on to Pure Mathematics and Found Total Happiness

  28. Robert J. Sawyer by sasquatch21 · · Score: 1

    I would recomend Robert J. Sawyer's Calculating God or Factoring Humanity.

    1. Re:Robert J. Sawyer by sackbut · · Score: 1

      I second those by R.J.Sawyer. Not as 'heavy' as Greg Egan's work but good reads.

  29. Anathem by rknop · · Score: 1

    Also read "Anathem" by Stephenson. Mathematics plays a prominent role, although it's not as explicitly explored as it is in "Cryptonomicon". There are also passing references to things from general relativity (or, at least, a common formalism for tensor analysis) that you will not realize are there unless you've done some advanced undergraduate (or even graduate) Physics courses....

    1. Re:Anathem by fermion · · Score: 1

      I liked Anathem a lot. The housekeeper and the professor is also really good. Then we have the last theorem by Clarke and pohl which is strange but engaging. Some say the dispossessed counts, but I don't know. The difference Engine by Gibson and sterling is a must read. If you get a chance to see Proof it is well worth it.

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    2. Re:Anathem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In your opinion. I know several people who attempted to read it and failed. I personally made it so far as chapter 3, but then again I couldn't read The Silmarillion either.

    3. Re:Anathem by GearheadShemTov · · Score: 1

      Second this. Because it's set in a parallel universe very similar to our own (yet with striking differences), Anathem is heavy going for the first hundred pages or so, mainly because the language and cultural assumptions are unfamiliar. There are lots of made-up words that sound tantalisingly like English, but are not; the title of the book itself is one such word, a sort of amalgam of "anathema", "analemma", and "anthem".

      But it is definitely worth the effort. It's the only Stephenson novel I've ever felt compelled to reread for the sheer joy of it.

    4. Re:Anathem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is it that a post mentioning Stephenson and math fiction hasn't been inundated with recommendations for Anathem? Do geeks not even have a passing knowledge of modern SF anymore?

    5. Re:Anathem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any recommendation for anything is going to be in that person's opinion.

  30. Try Borges's short stories by Shaterri · · Score: 2

    While not often directly mathematical, several of Jorge Luis Borges's short stories are interesting efforts on his part to grapple philosophically with many of the concepts of infinity: The Library of Babel most famously, but also great stories like The Book of Sand, The Aleph, and even Death and the Compass. They won't necessarily tickle you in the same way that Stephenson's work did, but they're still a fine jumping-off point into fascinating and deeply philosophical mathematics.

  31. anti-recommendation by retchdog · · Score: 1

    don't bother with anything by rudy rucker. except the hacker and the ants, or maybe white light if you're desperate.

    anyway, someone mentioned greg egan; i'll second that in general. i don't know exactly what you mean by "mathematical" that would exclude 70s hard sf; greg egan might be too close to that or not. i don't know.

    and although it barely qualifies, stanislaw lem's the investigation was very interesting to me; the description at wikipedia is accurate and as spoiler-free as it could be. actually, anything by stanislaw lem; his stories usually involve flights of bizarre logic, like a science-fiction lewis carroll.

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    1. Re:anti-recommendation by mfnickster · · Score: 1

      don't bother with anything by rudy rucker. except the hacker and the ants, or maybe white light if you're desperate.

      Oh, I don't know... I loved Rucker's "Software" trilogy, but it's not about math at all.

      If you like pondering infinities, White Light is a lot of fun (but be sure to read The Divine Comedy first).

      I haven't read Bruce Sterling's Involution Ocean, but a friend of mine highly recommended it to me.

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    2. Re:anti-recommendation by RackinFrackin · · Score: 1

      Rucker's "the fourth dimension: toward a geometry of higher reality" is a very good read, or at least i really enjoyed it when i was in high school. Much of the book is about Flatland, with a lot of commentary and additional ideas about A. Square. I'd recommend it.

    3. Re:anti-recommendation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He did edit a good collection of other peoples mathematical short stories:

      Mathenauts: Tales of Mathematical Wonder

  32. Non-Fiction by Antipater · · Score: 1
    If good non-fiction is ok, find some Feynman. You will be forever in awe.

    Another great non-fiction is Inviting Disaster by James Chiles. It's an engineering book, not a math book, but I think it's still cool in the same vein. Every chapter recreates the events of a famous or influential disaster (nitroglycerin plants explode, buildings collapse, reactors melt down, etc.) and examines the engineering and human decisions that caused or exacerbated the problem. It's been a while since I read it, but IIRC it had great discussions on Three Mile Island, Challenger, and the 2000 Concorde crash.

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    1. Re:Non-Fiction by codeAlDente · · Score: 1

      I second Feynman. His physics lectures are by far his most famous, but his Lectures on Computation is a fascinating look at the mathematical basis for machine computation, and are very underrated, IMO.

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    2. Re:Non-Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. When it comes to Math(s) all the best stuff is non-fiction. Well written titles are just as entertaining and far more informative. I'd suggest also suggest:
      Anything by Marcus du Sautoy, especially The Music of the Primes and Finding Moonshine.
      Phillip Ball's Critical Mass

      Already mentioned, Hofstadter's GEB is an absolute must read.

      Dava Sobel's Latitude is a great page turner but it does focus on science history, but there's plenty of good math in it.
      In the same vein, there was another about geomagnetism that eludes me, maybe someone can fill that one in.

    3. Re:Non-fiction by tessellated · · Score: 1

      You could also give solo Stephen Baxter a try. Has the reputation for writing harder than hard science fiction. Wonderful stories.

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    4. Re:Non-fiction by tessellated · · Score: 1

      Seconded. You could also give solo Stephen Baxter a try. Has the reputation for writing harder than hard science fiction. Wonderful stories. I'd recommend you start at Raft. Takes place in a universe with a different gravitation constant, where people feel significant attraction force when coming near each other.

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    5. Re:Non-fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also by Singh, "The Code Book".

      Another one I liked is "The Music of the Primes", by Marcus Du Sautoy

  33. The greatest one of all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can't believe nobody here has posted this yet...

    One of the most underrated books ever written is Alice in Wonderland. No, it's not "just" an absurdist children's tale. The author, "Lewis Carroll," was really the mathematician and logician Charles Lutwidge Dodgson -- and some mathematicians claim that almost everything that happens in the book is an allegory of a mathematical theorem or algorithm of some kind. I'm not qualified to say, but it is a marvelous work, and some people have written mathematical footnotes for it.

    1. Re:The greatest one of all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've read the story, but I don't recall there being any math in Alice's world. Some parts of the book may be related to mathematics in some way, but if so it's pretty buried.

    2. Re:The greatest one of all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not explicit math. Allegories of mathematical theorems or logic. Of course it's "buried" -- it's ostensibly a children's book.

    3. Re:The greatest one of all by Antipater · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's an interesting read despite its now-defeated viewpoint, kind of like watching The Battleship Potemkin or Triumph of the Will. It was an allegory ranting against the discipline of complex math, which had just recently been introduced. He was ridiculing the concept of imaginary numbers, which take you to a Wonderland where things grow and shrink in size randomly and other things disappear almost entirely (except their grin!).

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    4. Re:The greatest one of all by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's very, very much there, to the point where it surprises me when people don't spot it, but perhaps it helps to know the context:
      Dodgson also wrote a book called Euclid and His Modern Rivals, which was basically a lengthy criticism of people who were trying to develop alternative axioms of geometry and new theorems from them in Dodgson's day. It's fictionalized, in that he used Minos and Radamanthus, two of the three judges of Hades, he had the ghosts of famous dead mathematicians appear, and he actually used Lewis Carroll as a character, who chimed in with his opinions as though he weren't merely Dodgson's alter-ego.
              By most accounts, it's a fair lynching. Except for Legendre and Peirce, the people Dodgson was criticising have been pretty well dismissed and are not considered at all relevant to modern non-Euclidian math. Dodgson wasn't particularly critical of those two. For example, he basically said Henrici was using a cheat called a Magician's Force" to present his arguments, which is pretty much saying Henrici wasn't just wrong but crooked. He granted that one of Henrici's arguments was probably intended to be a Reducto ad Absurdum, but then called it an abnormal and hideous one. In a genteel era, there are places where he's about as blunt with some remarks as could be, without shocking genteel folk, and probably if he had been speaking about businessmen or military figures, instead of mathematicians, would have provoked a real challenge to a duel or two, even though they were firmly illegal by then (about 1865 when the first snippets of it were published seperately, to 1885 for the whole volume). About the worst he said of Legendre was that he was better suited to readers who had already studied the subject in depth, and beginners would be confused by their own prejudices as to what words mean in common language instead of math.
                  I hope you can see where this is going, a bit. In the Alice books, we have a character saying when he uses a word it means precisely what he wants, people having to run as hard as they can just to stay in place, arguments about logical order (The Red Queen's "First the sentence, then the verdict"), and all sorts of bits which are not only about math, but are said by characters who are parodies of some of the specific mathematicians in 'Euclid and'. There's reasons why some characters in the two Alice books look like walruses and carpenters if you look at photos and illustrations of the people in 'Euclid and' who say the quaintly illogical things that match.

      The second printing of this book came out in 1974, from Dover, and people might still be able to dig it up cheap. It's 'slightly dry reading' by modern standards.

       

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  34. Easy by DHalcyon · · Score: 4, Funny

    For mathematical fiction, I've found nothing beats macroeconomics textbooks.

  35. The Gold Bug by E.A.P. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's been a while since I've read it, and I don't remember how much math was in it, but the premise of the story is that a guy stumbles upon a cryptogram from Captain Kidd and works on deciphering it so he can find Kidd's legendary lost stash of treasure. And Poe's always fun to read.

  36. Uh by johnsnails · · Score: 1

    What's wrong with imaginary numbers

  37. More computer than math but ... by cab15625 · · Score: 1

    Cuckoo's Egg by Clifford Stoll was kind of a fun read ... compares to Cryptonomicon the way The Hobbit compares to LOTR.

  38. Non-Fiction Math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Zero: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea"

  39. Wow!! no one has said these. by Foo2rama · · Score: 1

    The Difference Engine by William Gibson and Bruce Sterling - Historical Fiction about Babbage.

    The Ghost from the Grand Banks by Arthur C Clark - extensive subplot around chaos and fractal theory.

    You can also make an argument about the Foundation series from Asimov being math based. The entire series is predicated on using math to predict the future and Humanities actions.

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    1. Re:Wow!! no one has said these. by NEDHead · · Score: 2

      Difference Engine sucked at every possible level.

    2. Re:Wow!! no one has said these. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. One of the worst books I have ever read. Starts with an interesting premise and then just completely falls apart.

  40. Rudy Rucker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's great! Gets pretty wacky though. How about "Mathematicians in Love"?

    1. Re:Rudy Rucker by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      I recommend the Ware tetralogy, it is now available under a CC license. Particularly the last couple of books are a worthy upgrade of Flatland's basic points into current math and science.

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  41. Snow Crash was utter tripe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Neal Stephenson's 1999 Cryptonomicon was a great yarn.

    Sorry, you lost me there. I read Snow Crash and it was a terrible book. Unless Cryptonomicon was at least 300 times better than Snow Crash, *anything* is better than reading Neal Stephenson, except perhaps all the fiction written by El Ron.

    But, as other posters have mentioned, Martin Gardner is quite entertaining, and non-fiction, to boot!

    1. Re:Snow Crash was utter tripe by jiriw · · Score: 1

      I tend to disagree. I did read Snow Crash and found it a rather enjoyable (and not too long of a) story. To compare it to 'Ron' I'd consider quite a low, even for an AC. As I remember it didn't really have math in there and maybe that did put you off if you were looking for it in there specifically...

      (spoilers)
      . ... but the fallen internet-samurai turned pizza deliverer possessing hardware way above his current standards due to his past exploits, jacking in again to the virtual world to ('further', it's already quite dystopian at the start of the story) prevent its and the real worlds melt-down due to a mixed virtual/real primordial language/idea based virus/drug makes for quite a good story.
      .
      (end spoilers)

      Well ... that one line synopsis really did as much justice to the work as the shavings on a snow-cone do the the north pole :P
      If Cryptonomicon is as good as almost everyone here claims it is I should get me a copy :) I'm not a massive SF reader, preferring high fantasy more but I've read and enjoyed quite some books more or less SF.

    2. Re:Snow Crash was utter tripe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cryptonomicon isn't really SF. Especially now, as even Stephenson himself acknowledges that the central conceit -- creating a data haven -- has become obsolete. Still, it has a good plot, some hilarious set pieces, and excellent characters, and the bouncing between WWII and the 2000s creates a neat narrative web.

      Basically, it's like an epic WWII thriller mixed with Sneakers.

  42. A few suggestions by Dan+Morenus · · Score: 1
    Here are a few of my favorites; I also suggest checking up reviews on e.g. Amazon to see what's really right for you. The "Customers Who Bought this Item Also Bought" section on Amazon for any of these might provide some great inspiration as well.

    Prime Obsession: Bernhard Riemann and the Greatest Unsolved Problem in Mathematics, by John Derbyshire
    Very engaging account of the history of the Riemann Hypothesis, which is central to prime numbers especially but if proven is known to imply a great number of other results. Got into enough actual mathematics to be a great read for me.

    The Equation That Couldn't Be Solved: How Mathematical Genius Discovered the Language of Symmetry, by Mario Livio
    Recounts a lot of the history of the development of group theory and its application to proving that general quintic equations do not have algebraic solutions. Much lighter on the math and heavier on the human interest which was okay with me as there are some pretty colorful characters involved.

    Fermat's Enigma: The Epic Quest to Solve the World's Greatest Mathematical Problem, by Simon Singh
    Covers the history surrounding Fermat's Last Theorem. I read it quite a while ago so I'm hazy on the details but it was written after the theorem was proven and I think devotes two chapters to the story of the proof. This is the story of the proof, not an explanation as such a thing would be way beyond the realm of popular literature.

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    1. Re:A few suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read some book by Simon Singh and did not enjoy it that much (The Code Book)
      Can't really tell why, because that was interesting.

      About prime numbers, I've read the one from Marcus du Sautoy, The Music of Primes, and enjoyed quite much. Even though I wasn't very good at advanced maths, it was understandable and explained such as I felt like I understood the underlying of the prime numbers.

  43. but they don't really give any numbers by swschrad · · Score: 1

    so it's quantum mathmetical fiction.

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  44. Richard Powers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out Richard Powers.

  45. Roger Penrose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Roger Penrose's books, "The Emperor's New clothes?" and I forget the second volume were good.
    Hard going though. very dense (or I was...) I could only read a chapter at a time...

  46. 9 examples by e**(i+pi)-1 · · Score: 1

    http://www.math.harvard.edu/~knill/novels/ My favorite from these nine math novels is Arturo Sangalli: Pythagorean Revenge.

  47. Diaspora, by Greg Egan by dr_leviathan · · Score: 1

    The science fiction novel called Diaspora by Greg Egan had some interesting mathy sections. It wasn't rigorous, as I recall, but it certainly went into more "depth" than your average sci-fi story.

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  48. I just got outvoted in the Star Trek captain poll by PingXao · · Score: 1

    I guess I'm in the minority here, too, since I didn't like Cryptonomicum at all. It was OK but at this point I don't even remember what the plot was, never mind the characters.

  49. Trying to remember by NEDHead · · Score: 2

    I read a story the premise of which involved a computer that was designed to create/discover new mathematical theorems. At some point there was found to be an issue in some areas of research, and it was ultimately concluded that another similar effort was being made elsewhere in the universe, and the two efforts were at odds. Essentially the math became 'true' instantly/everywhere when it was first proven, but with different starting points/assumptions the two mathematical realms were in conflict. Don't remember the name/author, and I would love to know (assuming anyone recognizes it from my poor description) to reread and recommend.

    1. Re:Trying to remember by mdenham · · Score: 3, Informative

      That would be "Luminous", by... hey, Greg Egan again. Good story, if kind of short.

      If you want to stick in that general direction of things, BTW, the short story collection Dark Integers and Other Stories has that plus four other more or less loosely-related (I believe only one actually qualifies as a sequel to Luminous) stories. Probably your best bet for sticking to math-related fiction.

    2. Re:Trying to remember by NEDHead · · Score: 1

      Thank you!

    3. Re:Trying to remember by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this sounds vaguely familiar... Could it be a 'Greg Egan' short story (perhaps from 'Luminosity') ??

    4. Re:Trying to remember by glowend · · Score: 1

      I love Greg Egan in general and your recommendations in particular. The idea that type of math we have may be tied to the local laws of physics is a unique sci-fi idea that Egan explores with great imagination.

  50. The Last Theorem by rloper · · Score: 1

    Arthur C. Clarke and Frederik Pohl's "The Last Theorem" is interesting with a mathematician as the protagonist.

  51. Mathenauts (short story anthology) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.amazon.com/Mathenauts-Mathematical-Wonder-Rudy-Rucker/dp/0877958904/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351115690&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=mathnauts --amazon link if you want to buy it online, or go find it in your local bookstore.

    It's an anthology of math themed stories. Like most anthologies, quality varies, but there are several quite good ones in there.

  52. Martin Gardner by sehlat · · Score: 1

    Martin Gardner wrote a number of awesome mathematical short stories. His "No-sided Professor," "The Devil and Simon Flagg" and others remain classics.

    Also, Raymond Smullyan's puzzle books can be seen as mathematical/logical "journeys" and you're invited to tag along.

    1. Re:Martin Gardner by damitr · · Score: 1

      See also lot of non-fiction books by Yakov Perelman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Perelman.

  53. Math Sci-Fi Anthology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look at: Mathenauts: Tales of Mathematical Wonder
    Rudy Rucker (Editor)

  54. Back in print... by Seraphim_72 · · Score: 1

    Fantasia Mathmatica It was out of print forever but should be on the shelf of everyone who loves math or teaches math.

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    1. Re:Back in print... by Opyros · · Score: 1

      Fadiman had a second collection called The Mathematical Magpie, though it hasn't been reprinted since 1997. It's probably worth noting that Fantasia Mathematica includes the story "A Subway Named Mobius" which someone above recommended.

  55. Here ya go by PPH · · Score: 0
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  56. I think by M0j0_j0j0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You may like 50 shades of Grey, it has the number 50 on it.

  57. Math books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Man Who Loved Only Numbers: The Story of Paul Erdos and the Search for Mathematical Truth by Paul Hoffman (Jul 15, 1998)

    The Man Who Knew Infinity: A Life of the Genius Ramanujan by Robert Kanigel (Jun 1, 1992)

    Any Martin Gardner book

    A Beautiful Mind

    The Annotated Alice: The Definitive Edition by Lewis Carroll, Martin Gardner and John Tenniel (Nov 17, 1999)

    Proofs from THE BOOK by Martin Aigner, Günter M. Ziegler and Karl H. Hofmann (Oct 28, 2012)

  58. No, it's Superstring Theory fiction . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

    . . . economic recovery will occur, but only in other dimensions that most folks won't be able to sense and experience.

    And since Superstring is the Unified Theory, it applies to both political parties.

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  59. The World of Mathematics by westlake · · Score: 1

    "A Small Library of the Literature of Mathematics from A'h-mose' the Scribe to Albert Einstein, Presented with Commentaries and Notes by James R. Newman."

    Four volumes. Reprinted in paperback by Dover. But the hardcover originals are worth tracking down. Put them on a shelf with "Mathematics and the Imagination." There is nothing to be found which will give you more pleasure.

    1. Re:The World of Mathematics by dolo724 · · Score: 1

      If you're going to read Einstein, pick up his 1916 treatise "Relativity: The Special and The General Theory." Ripping good friction.

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    2. Re:The World of Mathematics by Fallingcow · · Score: 1

      Thank you so much. That James R. Newman collection appears to be exactly the kind of thing I'd been searching for (idly, I admit) for some time.

      Googling for variations on "like Copleston's A History of Philosophy but for math" hadn't shown me anything useful :-)

      Somewhat offtopic, but if anyone's got recommendations on similar, though not necessarily so large, works along those lines for other disciplines, I'd love to know of them.

  60. Short stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If short stories are ok I would second the suggestion for Borges, and add that Ted Chiangs short stories have a similar philosophical and mathematical bent to them, especially "Division by Zero," which can be read online. If you'd rather read on dead-tree, it's included in a book of his short stories

    You might also check out a short story called "The Axiom of Choice", not by Ted Chiang, but in a very similar vein. It's been read on one of my favorite podcastes (actually fantasy fiction oriented, mostly) Podcastle:

    http://podcastle.org/2012/06/05/podcastle-211-the-axiom-of-choice/

    1. Re:Short stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Er.. what I meant to say is that his short story collection is called "Stories of your life and others,"

  61. Non-fiction by robkill · · Score: 1

    Simon Singh's book "Fermat's Enigma" on Andrew Wiles' proof of Fermat's Last Theorem.
    http://www.amazon.com/Fermats-Enigma-Greatest-Mathematical-Problem/dp/0385493622

    Morris Kline' s book "Mathematics, the Loss of Certainty" on how the discovery of geometries where perpendicular lines intersect in more than one point (ellipsoidal and hyperbolic) led to the efforts to determine whether Mathematics as we know it is consistent. Leads up to Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem.
    http://www.amazon.com/Mathematics-Loss-Certainty-Galaxy-Books/dp/0195030850/

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  62. The Practice Effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flatland, as was already-mentioned is excellent (and short).

    The Practice Effect by David Brin fits the bill, I think, as well.

  63. Count to a Trillion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By John C Wright. New series, plenty of math.

  64. Robert Anton Wilson by supergringo · · Score: 2

    Read the Schrödinger's Cat Trilogy for hilarious, ingenious, quantum physics-based fiction.

  65. Funny you should ask... by EPAstor · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's an excellent source of mathematical fiction... Alex Kasman's curated list of mathematical fiction! I highly recommend it.

    Also, a story I discovered through this list, which was truly spectacular: Ted Chiang's "Division by Zero". Freely available here.

    1. Re:Funny you should ask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      woot! Thank you sir! That's just wonderful and you have made me one very happy reader.

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      Not that it matters to anyone, but my original submission read, "romp through some mathematics and mathematicians."

      If /. is going to change submissions and display it as a quote, they ought to at least link directly to the true submission.

    2. Re:Funny you should ask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excellent link.

      Rudy Rucker, both fiction and non-fiction. Fiction (short stories) - "Mathnauts'. Non-fiction - "Infinty and the mind".

  66. My favourite piece of mathematical fiction: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i = sqrt(-1)

  67. Here you go... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 0

    (Good non-fiction math-reads are also gratefully accepted. What have you got?)

    The Romney/Ryan budget plan is a good, scary read, but it's pure fiction. :-)

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    1. Re:Here you go... by mrbester · · Score: 1

      How about:
      "Damages Incurred By Piracy" by MPAA / RIAA?
      "What To Wear At Your Office Party And How It Will Affect House Prices" by The Daily Mail

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  68. Ted Chiang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's some quality stuff in Ted Chiang's "Stories of Your Life and Others"...

  69. MATHFICT web site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a web site dedicated to mathematical fiction - http://kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHFICT/default.html. I've found plenty of great novels here. You can search on Math Content Rating to get more or less math depending on your tastes. Includes plays and movies as well. I'm not affiliated with the site, just a fan...

  70. Biography - Paul Erdos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A fabulous read about his life:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Loved_Only_Numbers

  71. couple recommendations by Zaphod-AVA · · Score: 1

    Cuckoo's Egg is good computer fiction you might enjoy.

    For non-preachy hard sci-fi Charles Stress has some post singularity books that are pretty great.

    1. Re:couple recommendations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you meant Charles Stross

    2. Re:couple recommendations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um....part of why Cuckoo's Egg is so good is that it's NON-fiction.

  72. Rudy Rucker by belg4mit · · Score: 1

    He has a modern version of Flatland, and his other novels vary from sci-fi w/ math, to too much math not enough sci-fi :-P

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  73. Non-fiction by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 1
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  74. The Sand-Reckoner by rotenberry · · Score: 1

    I enjoyed "The Sand Reckoner", Gillian Bradshaw's fictional account of Archimedes. (I also enjoyed the original "Sand Reckoner" by Archimedes, but that was not fiction.)

    Gillian Bradshaw is a well regarded historical novelist, and there is mathematical content in the novel if you know what to look for. In the book Archimedes' father dies, and Archimedes distracts by working on his mathematics. The reader does not know what he is working on until he tells his sister "It's more than ten seventy-firsts and less than a seventh." Pi minus three, of course.

    However, if you are familiar with his proof, the suggestion that he could work this out in a single evening suggests that this is a fantasy rather than a historical novel.

    A good read, in either case.

  75. Suggestions by ElrondHubbard · · Score: 1

    The story "Division by Zero" by Ted Chiang. Can be found in the collection Stories of Your Life and Others (they're all great stories, actually).

    The story "Luminous" by Greg Egan, from the collection of the same title. What happens when mathematicians discover that: (a) there is a flaw in the structure of mathematical truth; and (b) that mathematical truth can be altered by performing calculations around the flaw.

    Someone has already collected a bunch of mathematical fiction here.

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  76. Non fiction by pswPhD · · Score: 1

    For non fiction reads I would recommend "Fermats Last Theorem", by Simon Singh. A very good read giving the history of the problem and the various people who attempted to solve it over the course of 370 years. There was a BBC TV documentary made by the same guy, which won a BAFTA. Oh- "the code book", also by Simon Singh is also a good read.

    I would also add "Cabinet of Mathematical Curiosities" and it's sequel "Hoard of Mathematical Treasures" by Professor Ian Stewart. book are books you can dip in and out of, and contain various bits of mathematical trivia and maths and logic puzzles, along with a few jokes.

  77. Found a list by steveha · · Score: 1

    http://kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHFICT/mfview.php?callnumber=mf52

    I found the above list because I was searching for information on a story I read and enjoyed, "The Mathenauts". The basic idea is that it is possible to travel into a universe or dimension of pure math, and discover new mathematics by exploration. Some of the explorers don't come back; the chief danger is to lose yourself in the math and never return to our reality. You become imaginary, or something like that.

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  78. Italo Calvino and the Oulipo Group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd really recommend "T Zero" By Italo Calvino- the stories are structurally and very cleverly based around constraints that involve biology, evolution, gamete mitosis, infinite series... Also "The Oulipo Compendium", which is sort of a deranged textbook for an entire set of constrained writing schemas, many of which are math-based.

  79. Anathem by siwelwerd · · Score: 1

    Stephenson has another book, Anathem, that is quite good.

  80. Flatland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did anyone mention Flatland ?

  81. Poly by Translation+Error · · Score: 1

    Well, if you're looking for a romp through mathematics, how can we leave out the sad tale of Pretty Little Polynomial and Curly Pi?

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  82. I loved this book by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

    The story was good but I read it and thought, this is a book written for me. Not nerdface like The Big Bang Theory but stuff complicated enough that it would make most of my family angry to read.

    Michael Crichton did this to a limited extent but not to this lovely level.

    The description of how he deceives the screen scanning system while imprisoned would throw most people for a loop. I love it!

    Encore, encore.

  83. Can't go wrong with Dr. Seuss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish
    and
    I Can Lick 30 Tigers Today!

  84. Housekeeper and professor by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 1

    I liked Anathem a lot. The housekeeper and the professor is also really good. Then we have the last theorem by Clarke and pohl which is strange but engaging. Some say the dispossessed counts, but I don't know. The difference Engine by Gibson and sterling is a must read. If you get a chance to see Proof it is well worth it.

    Came here to also recommend The Housekeeper and the Professor. It reminded me why I used to like maths.

    1. Re:Housekeeper and professor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Dispossessed was more like an attempt to make an Anarcho-syndicalist version of Atlas Shrugged except when she got to the part where she was supposed to have a 60-page monologue, LeGuin said "fuck this" and wrote out the answer in two pages and called it a day, and instead of burning everything down, the antiGalt gave everyone the Ansible in order to prevent anyone from gaining technical superiority over the others.

      Very little math involved (other than discussions about fictional physics/mathematics papers, which were more about the personalities behind the paper than the content of the paper, which was part of the point of the story), but interesting if you either:

      A) know what the Hainish Cycle is
      B) want to know where the Ansible came from
      or
      C) ever wonder what Atlas Shrugged would have been like if Ayn Rand had been a syndicalist and had better things to write than 60 page monologues and could admit that nothing is perfect.

  85. The Hut Six Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Hut Six Story talks about math from the perspective of breaking the German Enigma encryption.

  86. Fermat's Last Theorem by EightBells · · Score: 1

    "Fermat's Last Theorem" by Amir D. Aczel (1996) , describes Andrew Wiles' seven year search for the famous mathematical problem. I've always been enchanted by Wiles' own description of the process: "Perhaps I can best describe my experience of doing mathematics in terms of a journey through a dark unexplored mansion. You enter the first room of the mansion and it's completely dark. You stumble around bumping into the furniture, but gradually you learn where each piece of furniture is. Finally, after six months or so, you find the light switch, you turn it on, and suddenly it's all illuminated. You can see exactly where you were. Then you move into the next room and spend another six months in the dark. So each of these breakthroughs, while sometimes they're momentary, sometimes over a period of a day or two, they are the culmination of—-and couldn't exist without—-the many months of stumbling around in the dark that precede them." It's always made me think of searching for a particularly obscure bug in someone else's badly written code :-)

  87. Iain Pears, 'An Instance of the Fingerpost' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have any interest in the history of science (though not mathematics specifically), this is a great yarn. Featuring cameos by John Locke, Robert Boyle, Samuel Morland and John Wallis.

    If those names don't mean anything to you, then it may not be for you.

  88. Zero, The Biography of a Dangerous Idea by djl4570 · · Score: 1

    Charles Seife's Zero, The Biography of a Dangerous Idea chronicles the origin of the number zero. It's one of the most interesting math and history books I've ever read.

  89. Contact by amanaplanacanalpanam · · Score: 0

    by Carl Sagan. While it doesn't focus on mathematics, it does play a part. Especially toward the end when the protaganist searches for patterns in pi.

  90. Charles Stross by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mathematical expressions and theorem proofs that summon the "Old Ones"

    Oh yeah, full of geek cred as a hacker uses his skill to protect us from the unseen danger all around. I've been tearing through the Laundry books starting with Atrocity Archives and continuing to Jennifer Morgue and beyond. I hope these series never ends.

  91. Mathenauts by dcollins · · Score: 1

    Short story collection.

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  92. Anything by Rudy Rucker by david.given · · Score: 1

    ...I'm particularly thinking of White Light here, in which our hero travels, literally, to infinity and beyond. And it is just as screwed up and hallucinogenic as you might imagine.

  93. Taxing the insanely rich may not solve all our by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    problems.

    But it's a hell of a good start.

    Actually - taking all that deadwood money and putting it in the hands of people with real needs who will spend it will accelereate the economy like nobody's business.

    1% job creators my ass.

    ironic captcha: aggrieve

    1. Re:Taxing the insanely rich may not solve all our by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right. The point that is important not to overlook is that the US Government cannot do that. Or, if it can, it won't.

      Government money goes to government contractors, the vast majority of which are already in the 7 Percent if not the 1 Percent. Sure, a little bit will trickle down to the few regular folks "lucky" enough to work for them, but that's it. What you get in the end is some feel-good statistics and no real change.

      The Ryan plan does much of the same, only without the feel-good statistics. Let's face it: if you vote for the Republicans or for the Democrats, you're voting for the status quo.

      I just started reading Hunter S. Thompson's Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72, and even in that early year he was already lamenting the fact that most people vote against someone rather than for anyone. Until that changes, nothing will change.

  94. Uncle Petros and Goldbach's Conjecture by chihowa · · Score: 1

    It's been a while since I read it, but I remember Uncle Petros and Goldbach's Conjecture being an enjoyable read.

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  95. Signal to Noise by hacksoncode · · Score: 1
    Eric Nylund's Signal to Noise http://www.amazon.com/Signal-Noise-Eric-S-Nylund/dp/0380792923 explores a lot of the same kinds of mathematical concepts as Cryptonomicon, but in a Space Opera Thriller. The sequel is quite good as well.

    Unfortunately, it's impossible to say *anything* about this story without spoiling it, so I'll just leave it as a bare recommendation.

  96. Re:on the non-fiction side and some fiction too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fearless Symmetry
    by Ash and Gross
    http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Fearless-Symmetry/Avner-Ash/e/9780691138718

    The Road to Reality : A Complete Guide to the Laws of the Universe
    by Roger Penrose
    http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-road-to-reality-roger-penrose/1007259632?ean=9780679776314&itm=6&usri=the+road+to+reality
    also by Penrose "the Emperor's New Mind"

    FICTION:
    TWISTOR
      by John Cramer ( a working physicist)
    http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/twistor-john-cramer/1000099565?ean=9780380710270
    Einstein's Bridge
      by John Cramer
    http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/einsteins-bridge-john-cramer/1002889776?ean=9780380788316

      Odd note, the CAPTCHA for this post was 'quantity'

  97. How about "The Housekeeper and the Professor? by jsternbe · · Score: 1

    I really liked "The Housekeeper and the Professor" by Yoko Ogawa. Maybe its not exactly what you were looking for since the math is pretty simple and is not the sole focus of the story, but the story itself is excellent and its hard not to read the book without being inspired by how beautiful mathematics is.

  98. Thomas Pynchon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you liked Cryptonomicon, you should definitely give Against the Day a look. One of the intertwined plots involves Kit Traverse, youngest son of Webb and brother of Frank, Reef and Lake, who studies mathematics at Yale (and studies with the physicist Willard Gibbs, whose work is preparing the way for 20th-century thermodynamics) and at Göttingen, and Yashmeen Halfcourt, who some think was modeled on the mathematician and academic Sofia Kovalevskaya.

  99. Non-Fiction by farrellj · · Score: 1

    Rudy Rucker had a great little booklet out called "Geometry, Relativity and the Fourth Dimension" that I would recommend, as well as his "Infinity and the Mind".

    His fiction is all over the place...but if you want specifically math oriented, then try "The Sex Sphere". It is, literally, Flatland taken to the nth dimension! Lots of weird kinky pan-dimensional sex too. :-) Captain Jack would love this book! :-)

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  100. Einstein, Turing, and Godel by rabidkumquat · · Score: 1

    I highly recommend both A Madman Dreams of Turing Machines by Janna Levin, and Einstein's Dreams by Alan Lightman.

    Madman is about Turing and Godel's lives (and the parallels between them) during the time of their most profound work, with a decent discussion of the philosophy and logic behind their discoveries. Dreams is a fun romp through Einstein's imagination as he toys with various theories of time while daydreaming at his job in the patent office.

    Both are excellent reads and a great deal of fun.

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  101. Rudy Rucker by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

    Mathematicians in Love

    Also:
    Postsingular, Hylozoic
    White Light

  102. Three highly-recommended mathematical novels by Corvus9 · · Score: 1

    Uncle Petros and Goldbach’s Conjecture tells a fictional story about real mathematics and real mathematicians.

    Logicomix is an excellent graphic novel about mathematical logic.

    A Certain Ambiguity uses real mathematics in a fictional quest for absolute truth.

  103. Comics to help grasp mathematical concepts&phy by Walkey · · Score: 2

    Not quite what you're asking for, but there a whole range of comics to help vulgarise maths that are a great read. Look for the work of Ian Stewart. He was quite successful in France with French translations, but I'm not sure whether he galvanised much interest in the English speaking world. His famous series in French goes by the title of "les chroniques de Rose Polymath".
    http://www.amazon.com/Ian-Stewart/e/B000APQ9NM/.

    On a slightly different note, French astrophysicist Jean-Pierre Petit vulgarised a number of physics theories in an entertaining way. And what's more he has now provided free download of the scans of a lot of his comics: http://www.savoir-sans-frontieres.com/JPP/telechargeables/free_downloads.htm#english.
    Or read the same in many other languages, take your pick: http://www.savoir-sans-frontieres.com/.

  104. Sync by Steven H. Strogatz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sync by Steven H. Strogatz

    he is a real mathematician who also writes textbooks. The topics he explores in Sync are covered in a formal way by his textbooks too and include
    chaos and dynamical systems.

  105. The Puzzling Aventures of Dr. Ecco by hawkingradiation · · Score: 1

    Some discrete math for you to think about disguised as a story.

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  106. Easy reading by Vlijmen+Fileer · · Score: 1

    During my study I thoroughly enjoyed this leisurely paced introduction to Lie groups:
    http://books.google.co.id/books/about/Representations_of_Compact_Lie_Groups.html?id=AfBzWL5bIIQC&redir_esc=y

  107. Michael Flynn : In the Country of the Blind by Capt.Albatross · · Score: 1

    Another novel in which analytical engines play a part.

  108. Simon Singh and Douglas Hofstatder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some of the best non-fiction I've read were by Simon Singh:
    The Code Book: The Science of Secrecy from Ancient Egypt to Quantum Cryptography
    and
    Fermat's Enigma: The Epic Quest to Solve the World's Greatest Mathematical Problem

    The Cryptonomicon (though published earlier), reads like a fictionalization of The Code Book (which I read before shortly before being introduced to Stephenson). The real-life characters found in Cryptonomicon feature in the Code Book, too. I consider these to be complementary books - if asked, I would not choose one over the other, they are orthogonal views of the same story.

    Similarly, I read Godel, Escher, Bach - An Eternal Golden Braid - a mind-bending traipse through music, art, number theory and consciousness. My very next book (purely coincidentally) was Stephenson's Anathem, which almost reads as a cerebral fictional rebuttal of GEB. I read these over a year ago, yet I reflect on each of these at least weekly (though not at all weakly).

    Having enjoyed The Code Book so much, I read Fermat's Enigma based on the name alone. A surprisingly gripping non-fiction tale of number theory.

  109. Re:Comics to help grasp mathematical concepts& by retchdog · · Score: 1

    since you seem to be French, i have to ask: did you intend the very negative connotations of the word "vulgarise"? don't take this the wrong way, it's just kind of funny and i'm genuinely confused because you seem to be mostly positive about the works you mention.

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  110. Mathematical Fiction? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

    2 + 2 = 5 for very large values of 2... now that's fiction for you

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  111. Rucker, Rucker, Rucker. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Several of Rudy Rucker's novels (like White Light) are explicitly mathematical; all of them are written by a mathematician and are copacetic.

  112. Math, SF, more importantly, good reads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Digital Fortress", by Dan Brown (cryptography)

    "Andromeda Strain", Michael Crichton (exponential growth)

    "Sphere", Michael Crichton (mathematical deductive reasoning)

    "Contact", Carl Sagan (radio astronomy, SETI)

    "Dune", Frank Herbert (mentats, no real math, but a really good read)

    1. Re:Math, SF, more importantly, good reads by UriGagarin · · Score: 1

      "Digital Fortress", by Dan Brown (cryptography) "the handsome code breaker solved the hard code"

  113. E=mc2 by drkim · · Score: 1

    "E=mc2: A Biography of the World's Most Famous Equation" by David Bodanis is not fiction, but a ripping good read. Aside from just the formula itself, it goes into the history of each symbol in the famous formula, but the interesting lives of the people who played a part in each symbol. Includes everything from the French Revolution to WWII!

    It goes on to show all the cool & terrifying technologies that the formula led us to, and even to the end of our sun, and the death of the universe itself.

    Sounds weird to say it but, a fun, fun read!

    http://www.amazon.com/mc2-Biography-Worlds-Famous-Equation/dp/0425181642

  114. Mathemeticians and evolution of modern mathematics by red+crab · · Score: 1

    ET Bell was an American mathematician and SF author whose couple of books Men of Mathematics and Development of Mathematics are considered quite remarkable.

  115. Surreal Numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.amazon.ca/Surreal-Numbers-Donald-E-Knuth/dp/0201038129/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351145748&sr=8-1

  116. Non-Fiction by tobiah · · Score: 2

    If we drop the fiction requirement but still avoid math proper, there are classics like...
    "A Mathematicians Apology" by G.H. Hardy is The description of what it is to be a modern mathematician. Essential reading for the professional.
    "Chaos: Making a New Science" by James Gleick popularized the field of chaos, now folded into analysis.
    "The Fractal Geometry of Nature" by B. Mandelbrot is worth it for the images, and popularized fractal geometry.
    "Godel, Escher, Bach" by D. Hofstadter has been mentioned above, but is an extraordinary exploration of logic and well-deserves its awards.
    I consider "Where Mathematics Comes From" by G. Lakoff and R. Nunez to rank amoung these. It applies linguistic cognitive neuroscience methods to explore the neurological basis of mathematics.

    For math proper, a couple favorites:
    "The Heritage of Thales" by Anglin and Lambek is part history and part math textbook, presenting classic results from different periods of history in their context.
    "A Wavelet Tour of signal processing" by Stephane Mallat is the best book on wavelets I've seen, clearly written and full of powerful ideas which may take centuries to unfold.

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  117. Math and Computer Science Content by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somewhat interesting is "Mother Wode." This is a mystery, set a few years into the future, in which the main characters are a woman computer scientist, a computer science PhD candidate, and an Eastern European-type hacker. The characters and the math/CS are believeable. And, yes, there's a little sex to spice things up (probably should be listed as the "unbelieveable" part. Math, Computer Science and sex - LOL!).

  118. Re:Mathemeticians and evolution of modern mathemat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  119. Non-fiction by jandersen · · Score: 1

    I don't know about mathematical fiction - I read Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter's 'Long Earth' book recently and found it very intelligent and scientifically intriguing. I think the trick of a good story is to present your ideas credibly, rather than being scientifically rigorous; but in my view they manage to do both. A very good book.

    But my favourite of all times is still Paul Halmos' seductively simple 'Naive Set Theory'. A very good read, and in places very deep.

  120. Murderous Maths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For kids: http://www.murderousmaths.co.uk/books/books.htm

  121. Surreal Numbers by damitr · · Score: 1

    Surreal Number by Donald Knuth Nearly 30 years ago, John Horton Conway introduced a new way to construct numbers. Donald E. Knuth, in appreciation of this revolutionary system, took a week off from work on The Art of Computer Programming to write an introduction to Conway's method. Never content with the ordinary, Knuth wrote this introduction as a work of fiction--a novelette. If not a steamy romance, the book nonetheless shows how a young couple turned on to pure mathematics and found total happiness. The book's primary aim, Knuth explains in a postscript, is not so much to teach Conway's theory as "to teach how one might go about developing such a theory." He continues: "Therefore, as the two characters in this book gradually explore and build up Conway's number system, I have recorded their false starts and frustrations as well as their good ideas. I wanted to give a reasonably faithful portrayal of the important principles, techniques, joys, passions, and philosophy of mathematics, so I wrote the story as I was actually doing the research myself."...It is an astonishing feat of legerdemain. An empty hat rests on a table made of a few axioms of standard set theory.Conway waves two simple rules in the air, then reaches into almost nothing and pulls out an infinitely rich tapestry of numbers that form a real and closed field. Every real number is surrounded by a host of new numbers that lie closer to it than any other "real" value does. from http://www.amazon.com/Surreal-Numbers-Donald-Knuth/dp/0201038129

  122. Fermat's last Theorem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simon Singh: "Fermat's Enigma: The Epic Quest to Solve the World's Greatest Mathematical Problem"
    great non-fiction documentary about the 200 year quest to proof an eccentric mathematician's last unproofen theorem

  123. Pynchon, Foster Wallace, Perec, &c. by ignavusinfo · · Score: 1

    In the same spirit as Cryptonomicon, I'd suggest:

    - Thomas Pynchon: Against the Day, Gravity's Rainbow ... if you were forced to read The Crying of Lot 49 in school, give Pynchon another chance, he gets much better.

    - Anything by David Foster Wallace. Although not all his work is not directly mathematical, his interest in math influences the way he writes. Infinite Jest is a fabulous read.

    - Georges Perec: Life, A User's Manual. The Oulipo movement (of which Perec's a member) let algorithms directly influence the text (as well crop up in their stories). Perec is good, Calvino, Queneau, and Mathews are also Oulipo members readily available in English.

    - Paul Verhaeghen: Omega Minor ... more science than math, still, a very engaging read.

    (And although not mathematical at all, if you liked Crypto, you'd probably like Eco's Foucault's Pendulum.)

       

  124. The curious incident of the Dog in the Night time by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    The curious incident of the Dog in the Night time by Mark Haddon. It may be a little lightweight, but there's some entertaining maths in there.

  125. The Man Who Counted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Counted

    Short collection of "math parables", good for some kids too

  126. Have you heard of this thing called "art?" by chrismcb · · Score: 1

    and far too often just a puppet-theatre for an author's philosophical rant.

    That pretty much is the definition of art.

  127. The Number Devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Number Devil. Children's book on mathematics, it's brilliant. It explains maths (up to choose operations, if I remember correctly) in a way that will not frighten young children.

  128. Re:Comics to help grasp mathematical concepts& by Tim+the+Gecko · · Score: 1

    Popularize is the meaning the GP probably intended (I hope!).

  129. Wikipedia has a category by pfafrich · · Score: 1

    Wikipedia has Category:Mathematics fiction books. Of those Uncle Petros and Goldbach's Conjecture, is a great read, the life of a fictional mathematician, Logicomix a graphics novel is a good as well telling the story of Cantor and other logicians.

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  130. One Jump Ahead by Urban+Garlic · · Score: 2

    This is a near-miss in the math nonfiction category, "One Jump Ahead" by Jonathan Schaeffer is the story of the guy who solved the game of checkers. I haven't read the book, but there's a podcast on the "relatively prime" series, called "Chinook", here.

    Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with either the Relatively Prime podcast series, or the Chinook project.

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  131. Mathenauts: Tales of Mathematical Wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a great anthology edited by Rudy Rucker. Thoroughly recommendable and enjoyable. ISBN: 0877958904

  132. Napier's Bones by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    Just punch it in Amazon.

    1. Re:Napier's Bones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just punch it in Amazon.

      Plus one to Napier's Bones. Really odd, surreal concept with some cool history-of-mathematicians worked into the central plot.
      If you love numbers or have ever had any tinge of synesthesia for certain numbers or combinations of numbers, you'll love this book.

  133. Mathenauts by cellocgw · · Score: 1

    Since nobody seems to have listed it yet. Mathenauts is a collection of SciFi-ish stories in which the math guy is the hero.
    Amazon has it.

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  134. Surreal Numbers by dabraham · · Score: 1
    There's Surreal Numbers by Donald Knuth. Given where you posted your question, you've probably read some of his other work, so you should know his style. Honestly, the love story in SN feels a bit bolted on, but he does give an eminently readable approach to Conway's version of number theory. There's a LOT of work left to the reader, but it sounds like you'd be good with that.

    Enjoy!

    Disclaimer: I have an undergraduate degree in mathematics, but that was 18 years ago...

  135. Project Euler by cfulton · · Score: 1

    If you are a programmer and want to have fun learning about math you might look at Project Euler. http://projecteuler.net/
    Not a book I know. But, very fun and educational.

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  136. Red Plenty by pamar · · Score: 1

    See the website to get an idea if this can be of interest to you...

    And here is my own review (from anobii):

    I love the smell of simplex in the morning...

    Red Plenty is pretty difficult to categorize. As the author explains, this is about history, but at the same time most of the characters are either fictional, or are shown thinking and saying things that, while plausible and based on actual historical recordings, have been made up by the author.

    And even most importantly, the various characters, some recurring, some briefly sketched never to return in the narrative, are just different ways to talk about the real "hero" of the story. Except that this hero is not character, either real or fictional. The main character, you see, is an Idea.

    The idea that by using maths (especially Linear Programming) first, and applying computers later, you can run a centralized, planned economy and make it grow at amazing rate till it takes you, and all your citizens, to a sort of materialistic utopia.

    Of course, we all know that history took a different turn, but up to the 80s the Soviet government really tried, and (for an admittedly shorter time) believed that this was possible, and that the "red plenty" of the title would really benefit the whole Soviet Union, and show the USA that Capitalism was inherently less efficient.
    We see the whole dream unfold (and sadly turn into a nightmare) through the eyes of low-level citizen, Party members, scientists, criminals.

    I am amazed by the technical tour de force that this book represents: it explains very complex (and probably dull and boring) events and theories in a clear and entertaining way - I do have a bit of experience with the specifics regarding the math theory used in here, but I was very ignorant in terms of Marxism, Russian history, Economy, how people gets cancer and a slew of other issues... so if have been entertained (and educated) about the latter themes, I suppose I can say that Marxism experts who don't don't know much about Cantor will find the book equally entertaining, and interesting.

    Please understand that the book is a gripping read even if you really don't care about any of this. I can't really think of another example of a book that entertains so much while explaining so well... but I really hope to find another two or three in the future.

  137. Re:I just got outvoted in the Star Trek captain po by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A man in modern times tries to find the works of his WWII cryptographer grandfather to help him create a data haven.

    A friend of mine recently tried to read it and hated it, called it a bad Clancy novel, which tells me he didn't get it, because it's WAY too comic to be compared to Clancy.

  138. non-fiction: by moeinvt · · Score: 1

    Keith Devlin's books "The Math Gene" and "The Millennium Problems" were both fascinating.

    A book called "Prime Obsession" about the Riemann Hypothesis was also a good read.

  139. This one is theatrical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The play "Proof" by David Auburn

  140. Andrew Crumey by the_other_joe_faith · · Score: 1

    Andrew Crumey has a research background in theoretical physics, and his books are based around a logical formalist approach that appeals to a mathematicians mindset. They are also funny, touching, and human. Try: Music in a Foreign Language Pfitz D’Alembert’s Principle Mr Mee Mobius Dick

  141. Rudy Rucker's "White Light" by DdJ · · Score: 1

    You'll want to read "White Light" by Rudy Rucker. It's an exploration of infinities the way "Flatland" is an exploration of dimensions.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Light_(novel)

  142. Mathematical non fiction is also good by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

    Check out James Gleik's Chaos.

    It's nonfiction but still might scratch the same itch. It's told from a storyteller's point of view discussing the personalities and early discoveries in the field, the stubborn resistance encountered, all that. It's a good story as well as being a good book about math.

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  143. Rudy Rucker Math Stories Online by rudytheelder · · Score: 1

    I"m Rudy Rucker, and I'll step forward here with a few pointers to my work. My novels WHITE LIGHT, SPACELAND, and MATHEMATICIANS IN LOVE are math SF but with a literary flavor akin to Stephenson's. My COMPLETE STORIES can be found on a free web page online, just Google for it. Of these stories, "A New Golden Age," "Pi in the Sky," "Ms. Found in a Copy of Flatland," "As Above, So Below," "The Square Root of Pythagoras," "2+2=5," and "Jack and the Aktuals" are all quite mathematical, although some of them are little-known. Enjoy.

  144. The Nine Billion Names of God by Doctor+Morbius · · Score: 1

    By Arthur C. Clarke. It is not SF but it is great.

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  145. DON'T READ DIGITAL FORTRESS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever you do, don't read Dan Brown's Digital Fortress.

    Even a BASIC understanding of cryptography (such as ANY level of understanding of checksums) will open up so many plot holes that you won't enjoy it, no matter how much you suspend your disbelief.

  146. Non-Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everything and More: A Compact History of Infinity by David Foster Wallace. Recent re-issue edition has an introduction by Neal Stephenson.

  147. Today's writing is not like 70s writing by fungol · · Score: 1

    Writing styles have changed dramatically over time. Just as the 70s stuff was very different from the 30s/40s stuff, the 80s/90s and now the 00s/10s also feel very differently.

    Most current scifi is much more character driven, and pays more attention to the second order effects of plot actions than the stuff you are thinking about.

  148. Comic Books by moonflower1 · · Score: 1

    The French have a great tradition of comic books together with the Belgian school which brought us masterpieces like Tintin. Being a son to a German intellectual, American comics were a no-no and I grew up with the European comics. When I was older and in high school I discovered an interesting series of comic books in the math section of my father's book shelves that I had not seen before which are also from France. The comics are done by the French scientist Jean Pierre Petit. The books are available for free as PDFs and have been translated to various languages. Most of them are more concerned with Physics but the first link will bring you immediately to the one I found and enjoyed. It is about topology and, if I recall correctly, starts out on a weirdly shaped planet which resembles a Moebius strip. http://www.savoir-sans-frontieres.com/JPP/telechargeables/English/Topo_the_world_eng.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Higgins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Pierre_Petit#Popular_science It looks like he has also more traditional book about the universe. I haven't read it though. http://www.savoir-sans-frontieres.com/JPP/telechargeables/English/The_Dark_Side_of_the_Universe.pdf

  149. Neverness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    David Zendell's Neverness. Horrible philosophy, but mathy and lots of fun.

  150. Re:Comics to help grasp mathematical concepts& by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, sorry about the sloppy translation. "vulgariser" in French is actually positive. And does correspond to popularise.

  151. Re:Comics to help grasp mathematical concepts& by Walkey · · Score: 1

    Oops, I thought I had replied to this already.
    Of course I mean Popularise.
    Sorry for the sloppy translation from French: In French "vulgariser" has positive connotations and is the direct equivalent of Popularise.