Slashdot Mirror


Fisker Hybrids Get Bad Karma From Superstorm Sandy

New submitter slas6654 writes with this excerpt from Jalopnik: "Approximately 16 of the $100,000+ Fisker Karma extended-range luxury hybrids were parked in Port Newark, New Jersey last night when water from Hurricane Sandy's storm surge apparently breached the port and submerged the vehicles. As Jalopnik has exclusively learned, the cars then caught fire and burned to the ground.' Apparently Fiskar super-duty lithium ion batteries are neither water-proof or water soluble."

19 of 414 comments (clear)

  1. Someone forgot to test by fredrated · · Score: 5, Funny

    the 'submerged in water' use case?

    1. Re:Someone forgot to test by HexaByte · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, I guess if you have a hybrid SUV, you better think twice before you use it to back your boat into the lake!

      --
      HexaByte - he's a square and a half!
    2. Re:Someone forgot to test by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the upside, switching to EV's will seriously reduce the frequency of flood damaged cars being sold as 'working perfectly'

      --
      People in cars cause accidents....accidents in cars cause people :-D
    3. Re:Someone forgot to test by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Funny

      "When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a Fisker in a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest Fisker in all of England."

      --
      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    4. Re:Someone forgot to test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Only if you're not burning coal or oil to generate the electricity to charge that EV... Just sayin'.

    5. Re:Someone forgot to test by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Until we have reliable alternatives, coal and Oil will be used until they disappear completely.

      BTW
      Can't have Nuclear ... obvious reasons.
      Can't use Hydro Electric ... damn rivers
      Can't use windmills ... kills birds
      Can't use Solar Voltaic ... Rare Earth Mineral Mining not allowed

      Let me know when we have viable alternatives that won't be outsourced to China or other third world nation.

      --
      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
  2. FiskEr, not FiskAr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Come on, editors, get your act together already.

    1. Re:FiskEr, not FiskAr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thanks. I was wondering how a pair of scissors caught on fire.

  3. Misleading? by Sez+Zero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It looks like several were close together, while others parked a little bit away were unscathed. Perhaps one caught fire and that burnt adjacent cars? They were parked pretty close, and there's a Karma in one of the photos that didn't suffer the same fate.

  4. Huge problem in Texas - flash floods on the road by Andy+Prough · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We have flash floods every summer in Texas. Most cars that run into a few feet of water simply stall. If instead, your car explodes and kills all the occupants, then you've got a potential death trap.

  5. Re:Why pick on EVs? by Darth+Hubris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because most cars don't burst into flame when submerged.

    --
    The party's over ... the drink ... and the luck ... ran out
  6. water...causes fire? by DSS11Q13 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a witch!

    1. Re:water...causes fire? by Flere+Imsaho · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a witch!

      Karma's a witch? Nasty lisp you have there.

      --
      It gripped her hand gently. 'Regret is for humans,' it said.
  7. Re:Why does this matter? by PPH · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because they could have been parked in someone's garage and gotten flooded. And that would be the difference between some clean up work and a house burned to the ground (or water line).

    --
    Have gnu, will travel.
  8. Re:Why does this matter? by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually lots of houses burn down due to floods. A gas line ruptures or electric power issues light the house up and then the fire Dept can't make it there due to the water.

  9. Re:What if you drove into a flooded area? by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Informative

    DO NOT DRIVE in a foot of water.

    A single foot of water moving sideways is more than enough to take your car off the road. If you cannot see the bottom do not drive through it.

  10. Re:Why does this matter? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd be less worried about the lithium-water reaction(Li-ion batteries tend to be sealed, if only so the internals don't degrade even faster than usual, they are touchy things) and more worried about a short circuit anywhere near a battery pack punchy enough to run a car. At 330 volts, you don't need an ultra-low resistance path to get some serious current flowing, and serious current is something that large battery packs are more than happy to supply.

    Now, once the electrical heating breaches the seals and touches off a merry metal fire, you have additional problems...

  11. Re:Huge problem in Texas - flash floods on the roa by Andy+Prough · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's the point of "flash" flooding. It's unexpected. Perfectly good drivers turn a bend in the road on a rainy night and run straight into a gulley with 4 feet of water. We've got a lot of country roads with no lighting and poor visibility. Happens every summer around here - except deaths are extremely rare. But - if your car exploded before you could get out? Very bad.

  12. Re:Why does this matter? by atheos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "How do you 'hide' the damage these cars have? ;-)" Easy, pop a kick panel and inspect any ground cables, and exposed metal above the floor level. These cars start rusting within days of exposure, and you can usually see a waterline once the carpet and/or kick panels have been exposed. I've had the not-so-pleasure of informing numerous people that their cars were submersed at some point in their history, and not a single person has responded with anything similar to "oh yea, I already know that".