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James Bond Film Skyfall Inspired By Stuxnet Virus

Velcroman1 writes "No smartphones. No exploding pens. No ejector seats. No rocket-powered submarines. 'It's a brave new world,' gadget-maker Q tells James Bond in the new film Skyfall. The new film, released on the 50th anniversary of the storied franchise, presents a gadget-free Bond fighting with both brains and brawn against a high-tech villain with computer prowess Bill Gates would be envious of. What inspired such a villain? 'Stuxnet,' producer Michael G. Wilson said. 'There is a cyberwar that has been going on for some time, and we thought we'd bring that into the fore and let people see how it could be going on.'"

187 comments

  1. Poison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is it really necessary to prove it's possible to ruin a James Bond movie by taking all of the fun out of it?

    1. Re:Poison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's pretty much what I was going to say. Bond is suppose to be stupid fun, not an edge of your seat techno thriller.

    2. Re:Poison? by jandersen · · Score: 2

      Is it really necessary to prove it's possible to ruin a James Bond movie by taking all of the fun out of it?

      On the other hand, this is the first Bond movie I have actually enjoyed all the way through. None of the shallow crap from the previous movies about gambling and drinking heavily being 'suave' whatever the hell that means, or a completely unbelieveable storyline. And the actors seem to be genuinely able to act as well.

  2. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Grumpinuts · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You heard wrong. Everyone I know who's seen it say its the best yet, critics generally very favourable too.

  3. Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't think I'm spoiling anything by saying this -- there's ~30 minutes of ads before the movie even starts. Not coming attractions, not "go buy some popcorn," but television-style ads for products.

    Seems MI6 has been hit hard by austerity!

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    There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
    1. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by fm6 · · Score: 2

      Well, you can always come 20 minutes after the announced showtime. When you rent it on disc, you'll get the same half hour of ads, and they'll disable fast-forward to make you watch it.

      A clever person can get around this crap, but the sheer arrogance of an industry that wants to treat you like Alex being brainwashed makes me crazy.

    2. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Those ads are the cinema's, not the film studios. They show them from a separate reel.

    3. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      That's not exactly new ... car commercials, coca cola, banks, cell phone companies ... all sorts of extra ads and crap has been shown before movies for quite some time.

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    4. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Downloading from The Pirate Bay doesn't take a lot of smarts. Pay to watch ads, or see the movie for free without them? The industry is brain-dead, this is the kind of crap that drives people to the very piracy the industry hates and was the sort of thing DeCSS was written for.

    5. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by MrEricSir · · Score: 1

      Again, I don't want to post any spoilers here, but the ads are most certainly attached to the film.

      You'll see. Or if not, you could google it.

      --
      There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
    6. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

      Or if you want to support the artists (or, to be more correct, the god damn middlemen) you can buy this disk AND download it.

    7. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by aztrailerpunk · · Score: 2

      It's funny, you're still sticking with this argument. We're in the post-piracy era. People have realized that being a self-centered shithead means everyone loses.

      I don't expect you'll pick up on that, though. You've made it perfectly clear just how much of a self-centered shithead you are over the last several years.

      Post-piracy era? Maybe for music but definitely not for movies. As for being a "self-centered shithead", I believe that piracy is a form of civil disobedience. The mafiaas have paid for laws that have robbed from us and try to artificially enforce their broken business model. The people fight back by not playing by their rules.

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    8. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, God forbid, you buy the disk and rip it yourself.

    9. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by too_old_to_be_irate · · Score: 1

      Je m'appelle Bond. James Bond.
      Saw this last night here in France. No 30 minutes of adverts, just on with the film.
      And just for the /. crowd, there was a laconic, throw away reference to 'security through obscurity'.
      That's all I'm saying.

    10. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Last time I used Pirate Bay, I got a nasty email from my ISP. Not gonna do it again without a VPN account, and for the number of movies I watch, it's not worth the trouble.

      If you read my post all the way through, you'd have noticed the part where I said I could bypass the crap.

    11. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by fm6 · · Score: 1

      I never buy disks for recent movies, so I don't actually know, but I can't believe they'd pull this no-FF crap on disks that were for sale. I've only ever noticed the issue on those gray rental-only discs you get from Redbox and Netflix.

    12. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A clever person can get around this crap ....

      You don't have to be that clever.

      1) Download VLC.

      2) Download HandBrake.

      3) Scan DVD.

      4) Transcode into the file type you prefer.
              a) include subtitles if required.

      5) enjoy video.

      6) You DID pay to rent the DVD, so you are not doing an awful
              thing creating an archival copy for possible future reference.
              However, if you choose to distribute the copy you made you
            are fucking up and you should prepare yourself for the punishment
            you may not deserve but which you may indeed get. There is no
            free lunch, and those who imagine movies will continue to be produced
            when the makers receive no profits are engaged in a perverse self-delusion.
            Yeah the RIAA / MPAA are evil money grubbing swine but the actors and
            directors DO deserve to be paid.

    13. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't feed the troll!
      WTF is wrong with you! Post-piracy is not real. That's like saying we're in a post-drugs world...

    14. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Um, those are the exact same disks you "buy" in the store.

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    15. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by will_die · · Score: 1

      Not with the English version I saw in Germany. No add besides the standard slideshow that are shown before all movies.

    16. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I've never bought (shock) a DVD that had non-skippable ads in. Is it a US thing? Are all the DVDs I've ever bought from Asda for my kids actually pirate copies stripped of DRM?

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    17. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I believe that piracy is a form of civil disobedience.

      For it to be civil disobedience in the classic sense, you would need to pirate the movie, inform your ISP/the movie company that you had done so, get sued and by refusing to pay the fine end up in jail.

      Otherwise, you're just getting stuff for free and no one changes anything, unless enough people do it and somehow put the movie companies out of business.

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    18. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Not according to the lady at the rental store. I'd rented Avatar when it was first out on DVD and the DVD wouldn't play in my player without a lot of freezes, even though the ones I'd bought played flawlessly. The lady at the store said that the rental disks were way more cheaply made than the ones in the stores.

    19. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Not all of them have non-skippable ads, in fact the majority of the ones I've bought don't. A tiny few act like I'd want them to act -- as soon as the DVD loads, the movie starts playing. But these are really rare, most annoy me with it going to trailers for other movies, some skippabe and a few not, then an animated menu that takes two minutes to play out before you can select "play" from the menu.

      It's as if they WANT everybody to pirate.

    20. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, if you want to show them you like to pay for ads you can buy the disk.

    21. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by fm6 · · Score: 1

      No they are not. They're gray instead of full color with the Netflix or Redbox logo. Lately, they've even started including an intro that says (if memory serves) "This is just a rental version, asswipe, if you want all the extras, you'll have to buy your own copy. Thanks for giving Hollywood another chance to squeeze more money out of you, fuckwad."

    22. Re:Exploding pens have been replaced with ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe sending money directly to the artists?

  4. BIND movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The name is BIND, James BIND

    1. Re:BIND movies by NotTheNickIWanted · · Score: 5, Funny

      Agent BIND, it is imperative that you contact MX immediately. It would seem that the DNSSEC has been found dead.

      --

      unsigned int question = 0x2B | ~(0x2B)
    2. Re:BIND movies by TemporalBeing · · Score: 4, Funny

      Agent BIND, it is imperative that you contact MX immediately. It would seem that the DNSSEC has been found dead.

      Did someone use to many AAAA records on him? Or will we have to wait for the CNAME resolution to find out?

      Hopefully we'll get our answer before the MPAA assaults the NAME CACHE to once again lock down the world with their RIAA allies...those fiends.

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      Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away. - Elvis Presley (source: imdb.com)
    3. Re:BIND movies by zlives · · Score: 2

      Need I remind you, ::1, that you have a license to Resolve, not to break the traffic laws.

    4. Re:BIND movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agent BIND, it is imperative that you contact MX immediately. It would seem that the DNSSEC has been found dead.

      You post the parent comment as AC just so you could setup this joke, didn't you?

    5. Re:BIND movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agent BIND, it is imperative that you contact MX immediately. It would seem that the DNSSEC has been found dead.

      Did someone use to many AAAA records on him? Or will we have to wait for the CNAME resolution to find out?

      He was hashed to death!

    6. Re:BIND movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geesh, isn't AAA enough, now it takes AAAA to take Bond down?

  5. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did they manage to hold a shot for more than three frames without cutting in this one? We gave up on the last one within fifteen minutes because the editing make it unwatchable.

  6. huh? by schlachter · · Score: 2

    The "brave new world" is "smartphones" (and tablets, wifi, etc.)

    --
    My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
  7. It has a PCI bus. by concealment · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can't wait for another stunning Hollywood interpretation of computer science. Maybe this time when he flies up to the spaceship and hacks it with his MacBook, it will show a virus check on screen and tell us that it's the Matrix.

    1. Re:It has a PCI bus. by AshFan · · Score: 0

      This is not the first time a computer virus was the inspiration for a movie, anyone remember, "Shakespeare in love?"

    2. Re:It has a PCI bus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure that even Hollywood could make a make command exciting. I guess we'll take what we can get, which in this case in a terrestrial instruction set architecture.

    3. Re:It has a PCI bus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My personal favorite is when you can read the contents of a monitor that's reflected off a person's face.

    4. Re:It has a PCI bus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For what it's worth, ID4 does establish (in the second act, I believe?) that our technology is replicated from the alien designs. From a storytelling perspective, it's not much of a stretch, then, to make a "virus". Something that simply moves along byte by byte making copies of itself wouldn't be that difficult a thing to figure out, if you had access to one of their computers on the ground (Which they do, in Area 51) and it's further not much of a stretch to imagine that their admins might have left access a little *too* open.

      Sure, he's shown using his PowerBook running MacOS, but it's probably just a terminal window of sorts into the guts of the alien computer, because the PowerBook is designed for a human, and the alien systems are not.

      Most movie portrayals of computing are pretty far fetched, but this is one I'm actually willing to forgive. It doesn't seem implausible in the least to me that someone faced with impending annihilation would figure out how to do this. Hell, I bet the guys at Area 51 might have even had a compiler for the damn thing, they have had it for a few decades.

    5. Re:It has a PCI bus. by future+assassin · · Score: 1

      RISC architecture is going to change everything.
      RISC is good.
      ?????
      Hackers

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      by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
    6. Re:It has a PCI bus. by HPHatecraft · · Score: 1

      Can't wait for another stunning Hollywood interpretation of computer science. Maybe this time when he flies up to the spaceship and hacks it with his MacBook, it will show a virus check on screen and tell us that it's the Matrix.

      to resist the urge to critique Hollywood's dumbed down portrayal of things related to computing: programming, what software can realistically do, cracking, etc.

      To put it in perspective, imagine a combat veteran's reaction to any number of films involving gun fighting and war. A lot of these people are probably bemusedly shaking their heads at a minimum.

      I remember reading a thriller centered around a 'revolutionary' piece of software -- it was described as a 'firewall', but it really sounded like some kind of penetration tester suite. I "know" the author knows better, but he made a (lazy?) choice to entertain over being technically accurate, and that was correct.

      TL:DR
      Above all else, your first job as a creator is to entertain.

      P.S.

      "Killer refresh rate!!" Derrrrpp!

    7. Re:It has a PCI bus. by wed128 · · Score: 1

      To be fair...it kinda did. Not to many CISC (to the metal) machines around anymore...

    8. Re:It has a PCI bus. by TemporalBeing · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth, ID4 does establish (in the second act, I believe?) that our technology is replicated from the alien designs. From a storytelling perspective, it's not much of a stretch, then, to make a "virus". Something that simply moves along byte by byte making copies of itself wouldn't be that difficult a thing to figure out, if you had access to one of their computers on the ground (Which they do, in Area 51) and it's further not much of a stretch to imagine that their admins might have left access a little *too* open.

      Sure, he's shown using his PowerBook running MacOS, but it's probably just a terminal window of sorts into the guts of the alien computer, because the PowerBook is designed for a human, and the alien systems are not.

      Most movie portrayals of computing are pretty far fetched, but this is one I'm actually willing to forgive. It doesn't seem implausible in the least to me that someone faced with impending annihilation would figure out how to do this. Hell, I bet the guys at Area 51 might have even had a compiler for the damn thing, they have had it for a few decades.

      But you think they'd have closed that security hole in 50 years time. It's not like they were Microsoft....

      --
      Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away. - Elvis Presley (source: imdb.com)
    9. Re:It has a PCI bus. by jgtg32a · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I actually had this conversation with a violinist. String instruments in movies annoyed her because she could see how they were being played and the sound wouldn't match up at all.

    10. Re:It has a PCI bus. by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      To put it in perspective, imagine a combat veteran's reaction to any number of films involving gun fighting and war. A lot of these people are probably bemusedly shaking their heads at a minimum.

      That's going to be true of almost any plot device which which involves domain-specific knowledge.

      I used to do some work in the airline industry, and the maintenance guys told me numerous tales about stuff that was shown in movies that was wrong for the kind of aircraft being depicted (the cabin isn't hat big, that panel doesn't do that, that's not where the lav is).

      If they go much beyond doing to the most mundane of things, someone will watch it and be able to say "hey, that's incorrect".

      A you say, the movie creators are more worried about pacing and their plot, and the technical details often get glossed over. And, as Myth Busters has shown up ... even simple physics can fall by the wayside.

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      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    11. Re:It has a PCI bus. by Psyborgue · · Score: 1

      It'd bad. It's really bad... but it's so bad it's actually funny this time. Just bring a friend and poke fun at it together.

    12. Re:It has a PCI bus. by Psyborgue · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Depends. If you're civilization that's millions of years old that has encountered little, if any, resistance out of the countless conquered planets, you might actually become a bit overconfident and neglect to patch things on a timely basis.

    13. Re:It has a PCI bus. by TemporalBeing · · Score: 2

      Depends. If you're civilization that's millions of years old that has encountered little, if any, resistance out of the countless conquered planets, you might actually become a bit overconfident and neglect to patch things on a timely basis.

      More like they'd be mired in the red tape than overconfident...

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      Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away. - Elvis Presley (source: imdb.com)
    14. Re:It has a PCI bus. by tragedy · · Score: 2

      But you think they'd have closed that security hole in 50 years time. It's not like they were Microsoft....

      They were a telepathic species. It's quite possible that, in their society, there were no private thoughts. Given that, it's quite possible that they didn't even have any computer security to speak of.

      That's the justification I use anyway.

    15. Re:It has a PCI bus. by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

      My wife hates watching military movies with me because even just the 4 years I did in the USAF allows me to spot tons of inaccuracies that are typical in movies (the way actors salute is probably the most obvious and annoying one). On the other hand, it's fun to watch those movies with a group of prior military folks because the plot falls aside while we poke fun at the poor representations of military personnel and operations.

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    16. Re:It has a PCI bus. by OhSoLaMeow · · Score: 1

      They tried with FSN

      --
      They can take my LifeAlert pendant when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
    17. Re:It has a PCI bus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, more likely Bond will be in the matrix training to prove he still has what it takes.
      Of course, having the "Neo" codes helps too

    18. Re:It has a PCI bus. by wienerschnizzel · · Score: 2

      To be fair, the fact that the way the characters are hitting the keyboard does not match with what's going on on the screen, is the least of all problems that annoy me about the representation of IT in the movies.

      If music was to be butchered by a blockbuster the way hacking is, it would probably include:

      - grotesquely disfigured instruments (exploding when played wrong)
      - musico-babble: "I've got an idea - let's transpose the C Minor Major scale into the Midichlorian mode and play it allegro al dente!"
      - musical prodigies identifying Yankee Doodle as Rachmaninov's prelude no. 221
      - musical notation represented as large colorful rotating symbols
      - etc.

    19. Re:It has a PCI bus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I loved how they stare at the screen in complete wonder and respect in one scene, going, "He's obfuscating his code. Security through obscurity!" as if it were something absolutely brilliant. Gotta love Hollywood. :)

    20. Re:It has a PCI bus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Happens with the hand to hand combat too, My friends banned me from talking during fight scenes due to calling out the moves before they happen on the film.

  8. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You will be pleased with this one then. The editing was particularly good.

  9. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Thank you, Anonymous First Post Troll. We'll be sure to give your opinion all the consideration it deserves. I forgot what it was already.

  10. What? by theRunicBard · · Score: 1

    So, the movie's interpretation is that we should be fighting hackers with our fists and they're calling that MORE realistic than previous Bond films? Yes, I'm sure the next time someone from China hacks the US, we can just send someone over to punch them. And that will not only stop them, but undo the virus, somehow. Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter was more realistic than this.

    1. Re:What? by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      To its credit, Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter had one of the most innovative fight scenes I have ever seen. The one in the herd of stampeding horses. Not realistic, but it was certainly made of awesome.

    2. Re:What? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      So, the movie's interpretation is that we should be fighting hackers with our fists and they're calling that MORE realistic than previous Bond films? Yes, I'm sure the next time someone from China hacks the US, we can just send someone over to punch them. And that will not only stop them, but undo the virus, somehow. Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter was more realistic than this.

      Well, which is more effective against an attacker controlling a botnet? Attempting to neutralize each bot and C&C system, or finding the guy(s) who pulls the strings and take him out? Sure, you still have the botnet in the second case, but nobody's telling it to actually do anything anymore. Plus, if you take out the botherder, you can always take his place....

    3. Re:What? by theRunicBard · · Score: 1

      Fair. Valid comeback, that I will accept. If I wasn't commenting on this, I'd mod you funny.

  11. Bill Gates? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 0

    Last time I checked, Bill Gates wasn't a computer genius at all, unlike Steve Wozniak.

    1. Re:Bill Gates? by Empiric · · Score: 5, Interesting

      He could code (and in multiple languages), in contrast to, say, Steve Jobs.

      From what I've read of the experiences of other coders/designers/architects, he had the in-depth technical acumen to make a one-on-one development review a very detailed and rather harrowing experience, as well.

      --
      ~ Whence do you come, slayer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?
    2. Re:Bill Gates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know, right?
      I had to contain my laughter when I read that line.

      Bill Gates was a genius in another sense. Just like Steve Jobs was.
      The people behind the scenes are the real smarties. The dark developers stuck in the closets working day in day out.
      They never get any of the glory. Without them, we'd still be looking at cheap drawings on cheap paper in the morning.

    3. Re:Bill Gates? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 5, Informative

      Last time I checked, Bill Gates wasn't a computer genius at all, unlike Steve Wozniak.

      Check again.

      From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates

      In his sophomore year, Gates devised an algorithm for pancake sorting as a solution to one of a series of unsolved problems presented in a combinatorics class by Harry Lewis, one of his professors. Gates's solution held the record as the fastest version for over thirty years; its successor is faster by only one percent. His solution was later formalized in a published paper in collaboration with Harvard computer scientist Christos Papadimitriou.

      and

      During Microsoft's early years, all employees had broad responsibility for the company's business. Gates oversaw the business details, but continued to write code as well. In the first five years, Gates personally reviewed every line of code the company shipped, and often rewrote parts of it as he saw fit

    4. Re:Bill Gates? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      So Woz built a computer, 30 years ago, and built another one 20 years ago, and this makes him a computer genius? Apparently no.

    5. Re:Bill Gates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, pretty much.

    6. Re:Bill Gates? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      So he wrote a single algorithm, 30 years ago, and did some code review, 20 years ago, and this makes him a computer genius? No.

      No, but it makes him more technically literate than the entire general population of non-computer scientists.

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  12. Re:No wonder it sucks! by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

    I've watched it and it was good entertainment despite. In contrast to the last one horrible Daniel Graig even does not appear entirely like a psychopathic murderer, so it's a bit easier to empathize with him this time (though still not easy). There are worse James Bond movies but also better ones, and it's fun unless you expect more than a James Bond movie.

  13. Stupid Gadgets by fm6 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Even though I was 12 years old when I saw it, the ejector seat in Goldfinger impressed me as the dumbest gadget ever. "OK, Bond, we've killed two of your Bond Girls in absurd ways, now get in the back of this truck." "Oh gee, is it OK if I drive myself?" "OK, we'll have a henchman accompany you, just promise us you don't have an ejector seat."

    Even dumber (though more low tech) is the part where the limousine gets reduced to a metal cube for no obvious reason.

    1. Re:Stupid Gadgets by timeOday · · Score: 2
      You know, for all the old nostalgia about old movies and all the crap we give new ones, I think this is a golden age. Even 5 or 10 years ago I never had access to so many unique films from around the globe. There are more people making smarter, better-acted movies than ever.

      And since we're on James Bond, I'll even speak up for today's blockbusters; the huge sums spent on making films today *does* create a bigger stage. I re-watched Avatar the other night. I know the plot bothers people but, man, I just think the visual spectacle, and the detail in the world they created for that film is amazing. It was never possible before. I sit through a Bond film and think, "yeah, I can tell they spent $1 million per minute on this."

    2. Re:Stupid Gadgets by plover · · Score: 1

      Bond films were generally filled with stupid gadgets. The Roger Moore era was particularly straining of whatever willing suspension of disbelief I was able to muster, from the gadgets to the villains, to the very worst of the worst, Jaws the Henchman.

      Where the Bond films always shined brightest was in their exotic locales, the beautiful women, and the chase scenes. The location shots were always gorgeous, and watching one was like taking an exciting vacation. But the soundstage shots were generally painted cardboard, reflecting the best sets British filmmakers could produce, and the plots went from "ludicrous" to "plaid". Casino Royale actually had me believing that they could start making plausible films again, but then out came Quantum of Shame and the inexplicable Hotel In The Desert Made Entirely of Explosives. I can only hope Skyfall isn't as bad.

      --
      John
    3. Re:Stupid Gadgets by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 2

      I'd strongly disagree on Avatar.

      They used a lot of resources creating a world, and forgot to make it interesting or have a story. For all the CG effort on that movie, they still didn't come up with anything that isn't roundly trounced by many real world locations in terms of spectacle. Technically impressive yes - but ultimately pretty dull.

    4. Re:Stupid Gadgets by oodaloop · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the hotel in the desert strained the bounds of credulity. Were hydrogen fuel cells really more effective than, I dunno, solar panels?

      --
      Tic-Tac-Toe, Global Thermonuclear War, and relationships all have the same winning move.
    5. Re:Stupid Gadgets by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Floating islands?

    6. Re:Stupid Gadgets by fm6 · · Score: 1

      I don't share your love of Avatar (well made, but too long, and there's something lame about the save-the-earth preachiness in a movie that's at the center of a billion-dollar marketing effort), but I agree that this is a great time to be a movie buff. As you say, the access is mind-boggling.

    7. Re:Stupid Gadgets by timeOday · · Score: 1

      This time I watched Avatar it was over the course of 4 evenings (about an hour per night with one break) and I enjoyed it that way. The plot is preachy, sure. But a movie (especially a largely CGI movie) has extremely small environmental impact, for wealth (GDP) it produces. It's almost pure value added.

    8. Re:Stupid Gadgets by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 1

      Could have been great, but they botched the presentation. Standing on top of a very high thing looks quite similar up close. But it's a mash of problems really - you can make pretty mundane stuff look amazing if your script and presentation is solid - science fiction has been doing this for years. The problem with Avatar is they had all this technology and money, but then basically decided to slack off on everything else.

      Which is sad - because the original script treatment, while still having it's problems, had a lot of much better concepts in it.

    9. Re:Stupid Gadgets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ISTR that the real building uses fuel cells for something, although of course they aren't made of petrol. OTOH, SMERSH, SPECTRE, and Quantum seem to all use the same firm of architects, so it isn't real surprising that they keep mistaking explosives for building materials.

    10. Re:Stupid Gadgets by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 1

      It's been out for a couple of weeks in the UK and I've seen it twice. In terms of Batman metaphors, If QoS is Batman Forever, Casino Royale is The Dark Knight and Skyfall is the Dark Knight Rises.

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    11. Re:Stupid Gadgets by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Do you know how boring a realistic film about spies would be? It would be about as thrilling as a documentary on insurance salesmen. Almost all the work is either reading stuff on computers, or setting up meetings with people in cafes for a cup of coffee and a quick chat.

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    12. Re:Stupid Gadgets by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      This time I watched Avatar it was over the course of 4 evenings (about an hour per night with one break) and I enjoyed it that way.

      Avatar is not a four hour long film. It just feels like it.

      and I enjoyed it that way. The plot is preachy, sure.

      Your "preachy" is my "tackling real world issues from a non-corporatist perspective", but hey ho.

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    13. Re:Stupid Gadgets by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Well, duh, I know James Bond is just a story. But there's a difference between stories that require suspension of disbelief and stories that require suspension of higher brain function.

  14. Bill Gates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill Gates would be envious of any kind of computing prowess.

  15. Re:No wonder it sucks! by acid_andy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...and it's fun unless you expect a James Bond movie.

    FTFY.

    To give an explanation, I think Craig is so far from the Fleming character and when introducting him they shouldn't have thrown out the good bits of the existing film canon.

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  16. They do the same with physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How often do we see someone being shot where they get thrown back and yet the shooter goes nowhere?

    Or where the bad-ass good guy walks away from an explosion that should have turned him into jelly?

    Or fighting on a floating piece of rock in a lava stream? AND they don't burst into flames themselves?

    Or spacecraft maneuvering like airplanes?

    And lastly, sound in space.

    1. Re:They do the same with physics by Psyborgue · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's a good one in Skyfall too, if a bit cliche. Towards the end of the movie a helicopter crashes into fairly large building made of stone and blows it completely apart.

    2. Re:They do the same with physics by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      In one of the Pierce Brosnan movies, I think GoldenEye, the bad guy chains Bond and the girl to a (grounded) helicopter pilot's seat. There is a timer set to trigger bombs that will explode the helicopter, unless Bond manages to escape. Which he does by loosening his hands in-time just enough to trigger, the ejection seat, of the helicopter.

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    3. Re:They do the same with physics by RaceProUK · · Score: 2

      ejection seat, of the helicopter.

      The Kamov Ka-50 has an ejector seat.

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    4. Re:They do the same with physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wouldn't be a James Bond movie if a building didn't come down.

    5. Re:They do the same with physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw an airoplane fly into a office tower once and the tower fell down, twice!

    6. Re:They do the same with physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How often do we see someone being shot where they get thrown back and yet the shooter goes nowhere?

      I'm not saying this isn't exaggerated plenty in a lot of movies, but if the force at the butt end of a fired weapon were applied to someone not expecting it, they'd fall over too.

    7. Re:They do the same with physics by agrisea · · Score: 1

      "And lastly, sound in space." So two large objects colliding in space would make no noise? Has anyone bothered to blast music in space to see what would happen? I'll stick with EVE Online, at least it has noise.

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  17. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes it is so boring and not even funny. Whatever, it should not be funny.
    The IT stuff are so laughable.
    - Q (with all the Geek-chic aparel) : "Oh my god, we have been hacked !" (And splash !, a animated 3D representation of the "thing" in your face.
            Ok, go back to school, assholes)
    - James Bond (Looking at the hex representation) : "Ok, Let's try that password" (Yes, every "Virus" have a password to decypher it)
    - Q : How, what is it ?
    - JB : It's map !

    There not a single gram of Ian Fleming novel' spirit in that movie, such a shame. This is just a giant advertising for Omega® and Sony® for zombie audience eating pop-corn.

    You can leave it.

  18. "Computer prowess that Bill Gates would envy" by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh, so the villain in this movie goes *further* than creating a monopoly, using its power to force suppliers to put competitors out of business, using a file-system hack to implement long filenames, having Notepad write a BOM to UTF-8 files, and, finally, choosing Ballmer to run the business into the ground?

    How will Bond ever defeat a villain with such technical skill?

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    1. Re:"Computer prowess that Bill Gates would envy" by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Oh, so the villain in this movie goes *further* than creating a monopoly, using its power to force suppliers to put competitors out of business, using a file-system hack to implement long filenames, having Notepad write a BOM to UTF-8 files, and, finally, choosing Ballmer to run the business into the ground?

      How will Bond ever defeat a villain with such technical skill?

      By throwing a chair, duh.

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    2. Re:"Computer prowess that Bill Gates would envy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I Think you are referring to A view to a Kill where Christopher Walken plays the meglomaniac Techno-Monopolist Zorin and his ridiculous plot to destroy silicon valley with an explosion, causing the san andreas fault to to trigger causing an earthquake supposedly which make Zorin Industries the leading supplier in microchips, well that is until bond stops him with that hilarious perfomance with Tanya Roberts.

  19. the love interst by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I can't wait to see Bond and his 'modern' love interest, a mysterious blond PHD computer scientist named Kitty Scripter, code up some GUIs in visual basic to save the day

    1. Re:the love interst by plover · · Score: 2

      I can't wait to see Bond and his 'modern' love interest, a mysterious blond PHD computer scientist named Kitty Scripter, code up some GUIs in visual basic to save the day

      I would pay full price at an IMAX theater to see that movie!

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    2. Re:the love interst by oodaloop · · Score: 1

      I LOLd, but considering this is the franchise that brought us Pussy Galore and Plenty O'Toole, it's not entirely implausible.

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  20. New Bond? by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is Vladimir Putin still playing James Bond?

    We need a Bond that looks more like Bond and less like a Bond Villian.

    1. Re:New Bond? by HPHatecraft · · Score: 1

      Is Vladimir Putin still playing James Bond?

      We need a Bond that looks more like Bond and less like a Bond Villian.

      When some says "we", they usually mean "me". Let's give it a try:

      "We don't want you here." Translation: I hate you, Jan! (Brady Bunch anyone?)
      "When are we going to eat?" Translation: I'm hungry (and lazy).
      "We need a diaper with long-lasting absorbency." Translation: when will this damnable infant-centric technology be incorporated into Depends?

    2. Re:New Bond? by WankersRevenge · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I had the pleasure of reading through all the Ian Flemming books last summer. They were really fun reads that hold up nicely (well, some of them do). I think it was The Spy Who Loved Me that really drives home the point about Bond And it's this -

      Bond is a villain. The only difference with him is that he's our villain.

      In such light, I think Daniel Craig looks perfect for the part. Just my two cents.

    3. Re:New Bond? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well then find an actor who looks like Hoagy Carmichael, as that is who Ian Fleming compared Bonds looks to in the first novel, Casino Royale. For kicks, compare the above linked picture to this one of Ian Fleming.

    4. Re:New Bond? by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      Larry Ellison? Oh wait.

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  21. Re:No wonder it sucks! by CodeheadUK · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't forget:

    Q: "We're under attack! Strip the headers and find the source!"

    Bad Guy: "Good luck, I'm behind seven proxies!".

  22. Re:No wonder it sucks! by steviesteveo12 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I for one always take my movie reviews from anonymous people who apparently live on continents where the movie hasn't yet been released.

  23. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I had low expectations for this film but came out of the cinema impressed. I wouldn't say it's a Bond film in the classic mould, but a really good, entertaining film.

  24. Didn't they do this already? by Antipater · · Score: 3, Informative
    I seem to remember Bruce Willis doing this five years ago, against a Timothy Olyphant "who hacked the Pentagon with just a laptop!"

    I also seem to remember Jeff Goldblum disabling an entire civilization's computer system with a computer virus so that it could be destroyed by nuclear weapons, about sixteen years ago.

    A computer virus is a brave new world for filmmaking now?

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    1. Re:Didn't they do this already? by realsilly · · Score: 1

      I seem to remember Bruce Willis doing this five years ago, against a Timothy Olyphant "who hacked the Pentagon with just a laptop!"

      I also seem to remember Jeff Goldblum disabling an entire civilization's computer system with a computer virus so that it could be destroyed by nuclear weapons, about sixteen years ago.

      A computer virus is a brave new world for filmmaking now?

      You mean in Die Hard 4, Die Harder? or Independence Day? Or The Net? or Hackers? etc....

      I remember in Die Hard 4, a computer virus made a house blow up! Does Skyfall one-up this?

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    2. Re:Didn't they do this already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you may be the only person left that doesn't remember that within the continuity of Independence Day, all of the technology in that laptop (hardware and software) was developed by reverse engineering the crashed ship from Roswell. Within this fictional framework, it makes perfect sense that the laptop would be able to upload a virus to the mothership because they're based on the same underlying technology.

    3. Re:Didn't they do this already? by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 1

      When does that show up?

      You're the second person to mention this, and I've never seen anything like it in the movie. In the movie it's the satellite signal which serves as the reverse engineering basis.

      The whole "source of the modern age" thing was from Transformers.

    4. Re:Didn't they do this already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember in Die Hard 4, a computer virus made a house blow up! Does Skyfall one-up this?

      Not sure if you are intentionally being obtuse, but to be fair, in Die Hard 4 that was a video of a prop blowing up. So, in other words, the virus did the equivalent of playing a video file on your computer. Also, not sure if it was actually a virus or just a telecoms hack of some sort (haven't seen it since theaters).

    5. Re:Didn't they do this already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Deleted scenes.

      Never seen them personally, but I've heard reports they exist far too many places. Nothing in the movie contradicts it, just wasn't left in.

    6. Re:Didn't they do this already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As I recall the captured alien ship was mostly a useless lump until the mother-ship arrived and remotely activated all it's systems. I don't remember them mentioning any modern human tech derived from the alien ship. In fact I recall them lamenting that they had the ship for so long and only started making progress understanding it in the last couple days.

      They did however demonstrate that there existed remote control interfaces between the captured ship and the mother-ship (the aliens apparently turned on the 30 year old captured POS by accident) and that the ship was modified for human operation (they added chairs a weapon console and the PowerBook)

      It seems likely that the virus itself was running on the captured ship's computers and just being controlled via the PowerBook which was connected via the same interface the Area 51 guys reverse engineerd in the time between when the mother-ship remotely re-activated the captured ship.

    7. Re:Didn't they do this already? by Aspomwell · · Score: 1

      I believe it was in a deleted scene. It's in the special features on the dvd where they explain that a lot of our technical advances came from studying the alien craft we retrieved from Roswell in 1947.

  25. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Lorens · · Score: 2

    Yeah. It actually /is/ good. Except if you happen to know something about computers, unfortunately.

  26. Bethesda by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1

    I wonder how long it will take for Bethesda to start suing over the name, particularly when the inevitable video game comes out. I mean surely the typical gamer will confuse Skyfall with Bethesda's trademarks "Daggerfall" and "Skyrim".

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    1. Re:Bethesda by Steauengeglase · · Score: 1

      Beats Marrowlivion, I guess.

  27. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are welcome!! : )

  28. remember when we had by nimbius · · Score: 2

    state sponsored torture prisons? it was hollywoods job to normalize and flavor it for consumption by the american public using shows like 24.

    now we're getting to the point where "cyber" is the new war, and so it must be sold accordingly.

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    1. Re:remember when we had by Psyborgue · · Score: 1

      24 Glorified torture? Really? Did you actually watch the whole of a season? The whole series? Bauer even becomes a fucking Muslim in the end and Islam is portrayed as a "religion of peace" framed for violence by a corrupt and conspiratorial US government. It even turns out the president plots to detonate WMDs on US soil to justify his wars. Defense contractors are portrayed as in a conspiracy to take over the country. It doesn't get any more ridiculously PC. The few instances in which torture is used it turns out to be a mistake. It's a parable against torture, not a commercial for it.

    2. Re:remember when we had by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Coincidentally, the TV series ran from November 6, 2001 to May 24, 2010.

      Now... let's see... How did the political landscape change during that time. Hmmm...

      I feel there was some sort of shift in power. Some sort of fundamental change in focus. A target demographic finally getting a gripe and coming to the realization that the guy they were standing behind is royally fucking shit up. Or, at the very least, a writer or two in the depths of Hollywood seemed to think so.

      Wow, 192 episodes and eight seasons... That's like... one hell of a bad week.

    3. Re:remember when we had by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I watched one season of 24 (the third one, maybe?) and Jack tortures all kinds of people and gets wonderful results from it. One of the guys turns out to be a patsy for the terrorists, and ends up intentionally taking a bullet for the man who tortured him! U-S-A! U-S-A!

  29. Re:No wonder it sucks! by egamma · · Score: 2

    It has been released in most of Europe, and from what I hear, it sucks big time.

    I think I know what you are trying to do

  30. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 1

    Oh.

    Ow.

    My brain.

    Oh god.

  31. Re:No wonder it sucks! by IAmGarethAdams · · Score: 1

    Easy solution: Don't go and see it!

  32. Re:No wonder it sucks! by HPHatecraft · · Score: 5, Informative

    There not a single gram of Ian Fleming novel' spirit in that movie, such a shame. This is just a giant advertising for Omega® and Sony® for zombie audience eating pop-corn.

    You can leave it.

    I'd be curious to know if you think any of the Bond movies have featured a portrayal of 007 that is true to the novels. Outside of Sean Connery, Daniel Craig's Bond is fairly close to the source material. Where Craig excels is in his physical portrayal of Bond: not only does he have the physique, but he moves like Bond: an operator, an athletic pugilist, with just a hint of the street; he looks and acts like a hard case.

    The fact is, the Bond portrayed in the books is a thug, and at least initially, he lacks sophistication. He is provincial, and somewhat racist (though not consistently so, and actually irrelevant). So if you think that earlier portrayals of Bond (Connery excluded, of course) are somehow more accurate... I don't know what to tell you. Methinks you protest too much (and that you don't know of what you speak).

  33. Re:No wonder it sucks! by SB9876 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Millions of people also think the Bach Brandenburg concertos, Firefly, Aliens, Terminator2, the Curiosity rover, seasons 3-10 of the Simpsons and Raiders of the lost Ark were pretty awesome. Your point?

  34. An exercise in suspending disbelief.. by Trevelyan · · Score: 2

    To enjoy the film, which I did, I had to actively ignore anything that was said in relational to IT. Something that I find hard to do.

    The concept behind the plot, while at the most extreme of technical possibility, was a valid idea to explore in a piece of fiction. The Iranians would likely have never detected stuxnet if its 'herders' had kept a better control on its spreading. Imagine something like that in a western government (as the victim). No, what annoyed me most is that they didn't even bother. Simply swapping some of the IT buzzwords in the script for ones that actually meant something in the given context, would have greatly improved its palatability. However that would mean employing someone with real IT knowledge on the writing team. Such a person might have gone insane or have made the script 'boring' with too much attention to accuracy, who knows.

    One theory I had when leaving the film, was that maybe the makers didn't want to give the general public any ideas or tips in how someone would go about achieving any of the anarchy portrayed in the film. The more misinformed about computer 'hacking' the safer we'll all be...

    1. Re:An exercise in suspending disbelief.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Iranians would likely have never detected stuxnet if its 'herders' had kept a better control on its spreading.

      [citation needed]

    2. Re:An exercise in suspending disbelief.. by GrahamCox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's a long known observation that the more you know about something, the more errors you will see in someone else's version of that thing, e.g. news stories about something that happened to you or a friend.

      Accurate technical detail is usually too boring or irrelevant to most of the audience - look at Top Gear's version of The Sweeney car-chase with Clarkson's insistence on getting the technical detail correct that the Jag's traction control needed to be disabled and that in turn required holding down a button for 10 seconds. By showing what a movie would be like if they stuck to such facts, the showed (in an amusing way) why it is a very, very bad idea.

  35. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Psyborgue · · Score: 1

    My favorite was dude's data-center with all the empty racks save those ridiculous cables and odd blinking red light. Also the part where the new "Q" plugs evil dude's laptop directly into the main Mi6 network.

  36. Wait... didn't Brosnan do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SPIKE!

  37. Re:No wonder it sucks! by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

    ... Bach Brandenburg concertos ...

    I haven't seen this one, is it any good?

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  38. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Type44Q · · Score: 2

    Why does that remind of this?

    In A.D. 2101

    War was beginning...

  39. Re:No wonder it sucks! by DamageLabs · · Score: 1

    Well, he is just a kid. Probably had some imaging tools on the local server and couldn't be bothered to get the disk out. A beginner's mistake!

    But you didn't look closely enough. Those were open racks with motherboards on them. The red lights provide a nice movie style heartbeat status display.

  40. Um, lawl? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...and let people know what could be going on."

    The only thing I have ever been sure of in a 007 movie, is that the people making such movies have no idea how real life combat works, or computers, or military service, or anything really.

    Thanks for showing me all the made up bullshit that "could" happen.

    Someone show these people where they can buy a fucking clue, they clearly have the financial resources to do so.

  41. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There not a single gram of Ian Fleming novel' spirit in that movie, such a shame. This is just a giant advertising for Omega® and Sony® for zombie audience eating pop-corn.

    You can leave it.

    I'd be curious to know if you think any of the Bond movies have featured a portrayal of 007 that is true to the novels.

    None of them is close to the idea I have of James Bond from the novel. Georges Lazenby and Daniel Craig are the closest ones though. The others being pure jokes (Sean Connery included).
    I think a movie like The American is very close to the spirit of the novel. The main problem in the JB movies : there are way too much dialogues, no suspens and they are not subtle for a penny.
    In the last one, the references to the Sean Connery era are so lame. What the point ?

    A good James Bond adaptation needs more than an actor that fit well the suit. Everything should be in the atmosphere, not in a avalanche of dumb gadgets and unacurate clichés (Martini, casino, James-bond girl, skiing, car, watches, you name it).

  42. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Psyborgue · · Score: 1

    Maybe you're right. I only saw the movie once.

  43. Meh. by Seumas · · Score: 0

    I had no idea there was a new Bond film coming, but if it's still coming out in 2012, then that is six years between bond films. Last I saw, Daniel Craig (who I'm a big fan of as bond) was getting kind of old looking (hey, you only have a few years in which you aren't a child Bond or elderly Bond, to be fair). If they space them out this far apart, he's not going to have any more Bond films left in him.

  44. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My company rented a movie theater a few days ago and treated us to Skyfall.

    Me and another co-workes has since quoted this part of the move at least five times per day ;)

  45. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Norwell+Bob · · Score: 1

    Makes me wish I had mod points for your mention of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    Slashdot high-five, bra!

  46. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Norwell+Bob · · Score: 1

    Mod parent up.

  47. RISC architecture is gonna change everything! by partyguerrilla · · Score: 2

    If the author did indeed know better, it would require a conscious effort from him to mess up the technical aspects. That idiot did not know better; he was pretending to know better in hindsight. The public in general only hear white noise when the technical stuff comes up, so why not get it right if you can? It is of no consequence whatsoever, and a nice nod to technical people.

    1. Re:RISC architecture is gonna change everything! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if one keeps it under the table, otherwise it'll be a high RISC situation

  48. In the James Bond world, G is a valid hex number. by purpledinoz · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else notice that when Bond figured out the encryption key was "Grandborough", there was a G in the hex dump? I hate when movies try to depict computer hacking/cracking in a movie, it's always completely dumb.

  49. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It was very boring for a Bond movie. I fell asleep twice trying to watch it. No one liked bond because he simply completed his mission. They like bond because he did it using innovative technology and gadgets. The same reason Batman movies work, take away his gadgets and he is just a rich 1%'er with mental issues and some anger.

  50. Skyfall is embarrasing by DrXym · · Score: 1
    Okay a certain suspension of disbelief is necessary for a Bond movie. But it costs the movie makers next to nothing to make a movie which portrays computers software in a semi plausible way. But instead in Skyfall Q plugs the world's most dangerous hacker's computer straight into MI5's intranet, babbles through a jargon salad for a minute or so while watching moving nodes in a graph and a bunch of hex and then stares open mouthed as all the security doors open. This fuckup would fail the interview for any security position yet he's supposed to be MI5's smartest guy and James Bond doesn't seem pissed at all despite the fact that 2 security guards immediately die plus all those that do in the following sequences.

    How much effort would it have been for Q to have said something to Bond such as "I'm running this in on a closed, secure network" to indicate good practice. Or for screen to show some semi plausible activity on it. Or for the computer to perhaps have exploited something Q might not have thought of such as scanning for wifi hotspots, e.g. through an agents phone or some router in the secretary pool and compromising the network through that.

    Of course the film while pretty good for Bond has a pretty ridiculous plot. I think Javier Bardem's character got his plot ideas from watching The Dark Knight. They're so intricate and rely on an improbable sequence of events that you have to wonder why his character didn't just buy a plane ticket to London, get a taxi to M's house and blow her head off without all the intervening nonsense in this film. He must know where she lived given everything else he was supposed to have known.

  51. Re:No wonder it sucks! by RenderSeven · · Score: 1

    he is just a rich 1%'er with mental issues and some anger.

    Then, pretty much what everyone on /. aspires to become?

  52. Is this the real slashdot by dgharmon · · Score: 1

    A totally ludicrous computer plot The entire computer "hacking" bits were totally ludicrous in the extreme. The head of Q Branch finds the villians laptop and plugs it into the MI5 network where it promptly takes control and blows up the gas boiler amoung other things. As for Stuxnet, only a f*****g moron would use Windows to power a nuclear centrefuge or plug a USB device into it.

    "The new film, released on the 50th anniversary of the storied franchise, presents a gadget-free Bond fighting with both brains and brawn against a high-tech villain with computer prowess Bill Gates would be envious of"

    Is this the real slashdot, since when has Bill Gates ever been seriously considered a computer genius

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    1. Re:Is this the real slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As for Stuxnet, only a f*****g moron would use Windows to power a nuclear centrefuge or plug a USB device into it.
       

      Stuxnet worked as it targeted the engineers/technicians computers which were used to program and maintain the discrete PLC systems that run the nuclear centrifuges. It didn't do anything to the workstations therefore there was nothing prompting people to investigate it.

      However, if I was Bond and saw Q plug an unknown device into the corporate network (with two connections I might add) I'd have fired him on the spot and then shot him. Or perhaps shot him and then said something witty along the lines of "Well I've terminated that process..." He was a knobber who had no business being in charge of military intelligence.

  53. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    ...and it's fun unless you expect a James Bond movie.

    FTFY.

    To give an explanation, I think Craig is so far from the Fleming character and when introducting him they shouldn't have thrown out the good bits of the existing film canon.

    The Fleming Bond is a brutal psychotic nut. In that way, Craig is much closer than the dandies that previously played him.

  54. The real world is a scary place. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You go to a movie to be entertained. Not educated.

    How entertained do you think you'd be if Hollywood was 100% spot-on accurate with this sort of thing? How entertained would you be if they illustrated a totally accurate, completely plausible air-tight scenario where the "bad guys" used something like Stuxnet on OUR critical infrastructure and unravelled society as we know it? You sure as shit wouldn't be entertained. You'd be wondering if it could REALLY happen (hint: it could), the realization that it COULD happen might even be a bit depressing.

    That is not the point of a movie like this. Bond isn't a documentary, nor are most Hollywood movies- so why do you expect them to be accurate? Accuracy isn't entertaining! You might have gotten a kick out of Trinity using an SSH hack in The Matrix, but to the rest of the audience it was just a bunch of gibberish on a laptop. No, it's more entertaining for Hollywood to portray technology as something that you can manipulate on a plot level. What fun is being presented with a login for an OpenBSD box and running a bruteforcer against it for a year? That's not very fun. But hey, here's this 3D graphical representation of their "firewall" and if we rearrange these bits around and insert that chunk here we can get past it and do whatever the script says we need to do.

    So, again, the real world isn't a fun place. The real world isn't entertaining, it's depressing. That goes against the point of the movie, which is to entertain you- that's why the technology is so screwed up. It's because that kind of thing makes for a good movie. Hard technology does not.

  55. Gadget-free Bond can suck my b*lls! by m1ndcrash · · Score: 2

    Seriously, Craig is the worst James Bond ever. They might as well call it "James Bourne: The Spy with feelings" or something. There are other movies that provide entertainment as "cool_modern_realistic" action. I don't want that, many of my friends do not want that. There is no Bond cheese left. There are no cool villains. They played freaking poker in Casino Royal for 40 min. NO. James Bond comes to a casino, wins against the villain, takes his girl home. She dies in the morning. Die Hard 4 was more "hacker-friendly" movie.

    1. Re:Gadget-free Bond can suck my b*lls! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Personally, I thought Casino Royale was one of the best Bond movie made in several decades. It beat all of Brosnan's movies, Dalton's and nearly all of Moore's. Bond, for once, seemed like a real spy in Casino Royale and they even aced the theme music. While I can imagine that some people got bored by the poker game, I think many also appreciated it, especially those who play the occasional game themselves or enjoyed movies like Rounders and The Cincinnati Kid.

    2. Re:Gadget-free Bond can suck my b*lls! by m1ndcrash · · Score: 0

      Rounders is a completely different ball game. It is a movie about gambling which has nothing in common with a spy action flick. So as The Cincinnati Kid, hence, irrelevant. Once again, for extra realism, please refer to Bourne movies and leave the classiest spy alone.

  56. face-palm by itchybrain · · Score: 1

    What the hell ?! Would it kill the OP to slap a spoiler alert to this article?

    I have tried hard to avoid any information about this movie. I guess I have to try harder next time.

    If others have commented about this, my apologies. I dare not skim this thread for fear that more shall be revealed.

  57. Re:In the James Bond world, G is a valid hex numbe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought this, but then I thought, just because the information in the right hand window was mostly hex, doesn't mean it was literally hex, it could have been regular ASCII. Which could have spelled anything, once decrypted from the mess on the left hand side. It just so happens the payload was ascii-coded hex, apart from the word "Granborough" which was just regular ascii.

    OK, I'm reaching, aren't I.

  58. Re:No wonder it sucks! by loufoque · · Score: 2

    Is Bond as sexist in the novel as in this film?

    Bond wasn't even looking at the first girl that saved him while having his Heineken® on the bed, and he left without even telling her anything. He appeared like a creep behind the second girl while she was showering and just fucked her.
    Women were just sex objects. Despite the film being very long they didn't get any character development at all.

  59. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this perhaps a homage to Dimitry in Goldeneye? ISTR him having a line similar to that when he's showing off for the girl before Orlov and Onatopp arrive.

  60. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Smask · · Score: 1

    No, it's a meme born on 4chan.

  61. Re:No wonder it sucks! by someonestolecc · · Score: 2

    Totally agree.. and yes they did thank god.. No more bourne-supremecy-meth'ed out shots that stop you focusing on the scene before it changes...

  62. Re:No wonder it sucks! by someonestolecc · · Score: 1

    this is bond.. its the way its meant to be?

  63. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well, novel::Bond does straighten out a lesbian by having sex with her (IIRC, it is in Live and Let Die, but it might have been another one in America), and his relationship with Tracy is pretty much as it is in the film (although with more nuance, of course), although he does come to genuinely love her. OTOH, in one of the short stories (in For Your Eyes Only, the one set in the Seychelles) he either murders a man or covers up his murder because he's extremely abusive, and he does treat the Ama woman he's living with in You Only Live Twice pretty well.

    While he's rather protective of women and has some rather 50's attitudes (funny that), and tends rather to using the slap-slap-kiss method of seduction, he does recognise competent women as his near-equals (and he's James Bond, he doesn't have equals) and can do the right thing by our standards sometimes.

    I haven't seen the film yet, so I can't compare precisely.

  64. SKYFALL: The WORST Bond film ever!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SKYFALL: The WORST Bond film ever!!!
    Please do not waste your time in watching this movie. It seems Sam Mendes has directed this movie in keeping Oscars in mind; not the legendary of Bond series & thus has messed up the plot completely. This movie will disappoint you if you are Bond fan & even if you are fan of action films. I found following points really pathetic,
    1. Naomi Harris is like cartoon & has no chemistry with Daniel Craig.
    2. Daniel Craig lacks the charm associated with Bond persona.
    3. Nothing to apluad about actions scenes; the very few that movie has.
    4. We know Bond as a hero who saves the world. In this film he is limited to protecting M.
    5. The film is slow paced & lacks depth in its script; though it promises to have depth at start but as you reach climax you realize lack of it.
    6. Poor dialogues. There's absolutely nothing that can leave you shaken & stirred.
    All reviewers abroad have already overrated this movie.

  65. Re:No wonder it sucks! by tehcyder · · Score: 0

    Millions of people think transformers is a good movie.

    No, they think it is escapist fun.

    Millions of people think jersey shore is a great tv show.

    Again, no they just think it's entertaining.

    Millions of people think nickleback is a awesome band.

    No, they really really really don't. There are clearly a few, but surely not millions.

    Millions of people think the secret is the best book ever.

    Never heard of it.

    Millions think tom cruise is a good actor.

    He's not that bad for a Hollywood star, and has been in some good films.

    Millions think mcdonalds has good food.

    They most certainly do not, they think it's convenient food.

    why in the hell would I agree with some critics who get paid indirectly by the movie studios who make movies they review?

    That is pure and utter bullshit, or else you'd never see a bad movie review. Maybe it's different here in the UK, but there are many good independent-minded critics who will tell you exactly how good or bad a film is.

    And generally favourable just means most critics didnt think it was total shit, but that doesnt mean they thought it was awesome.

    You're a fucking idot. There is a whole spectrum of opinions between total shit and awesome, and most films lie somewhere on it.

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    To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  66. Re:No wonder it sucks! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    It was very boring for a Bond movie. I fell asleep twice trying to watch it. No one liked bond because he simply completed his mission. They like bond because he did it using innovative technology and gadgets. The same reason Batman movies work, take away his gadgets and he is just a rich 1%'er with mental issues and some anger.

    Wow, how old are you? The tech and gadgets are just shiny stuff for ten year olds. What makes them work is good writing, acting and directing.

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    To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  67. Re:No wonder it sucks! by laron · · Score: 1

    A bit slim on fireworks and light effects, but you have to see and hear JSB rock the harpiscord.

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    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."
  68. They do the same with reality as a whole by concealment · · Score: 1

    How many Hollywood plots are plausible on a real-world level? Especially given what we know about people?

    Think about your average Romantic Comedy. Some movie-star hot girl, who's magically single and doesn't have any STDs, is just pining around her $2 million New York brownstone, waiting for Mr. Right, and then as if by magic she finds him in some awkward social situation and is able to lure him out of his shell, so they can go off and be rich and good looking together?

    I give action movies a break. I don't think anyone expects those to be real because they're basically cartoons with machine guns.

    Or what about the generic inspirational movie, where a lawyer or mercenary suddenly grows a heart and decides to help a village full of starving blind orphan amputees, and finds "meaning" (noble bankruptcy) as a result?

    If you think the physics and CS in movies are unreal, compare movies to real life as a whole. They're not even trying anymore.

  69. Fog o' war? by krondell · · Score: 1

    I don't want to be the tin-foil hat guy, but... doesn't it seem convenient or maybe just more palatable, that the cyberwarfare villain in the movie is a rich psychopath rather than a powerful state. Makes you go hmm.

  70. Re:No wonder it sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you actually watch Skyfall? It wasn't boring at all. Even that hypocritical piece of shit Bardem guy delivered a great performance. It was Bond, the humour, the action and even the soundtrack was pretty awesome.

  71. Re:No wonder it sucks! by plover · · Score: 1

    Bull ! The tech and gadgets in Bond films were distractions, not movie enhancers. They were generally so unbelievable as to break my willing suspension of disbelief. Trying to make it look like it takes a radio astronomy sized "satellite dish" and a ruby the size of an egg to command a satellite to deploy its weapon? I can push a button on a Spot GPS Messenger which will transmit a signal to a satellite, causing guys in helicopters to come rescue me from a mountain side, and that only takes a tiny plastic toy with three AAA batteries!

    Going farther back, Roger Moore used a magnetic wrist watch to drag a boat across an alligator-filled pond. Now there's a technology that would realistically take a magnet the size of the aforementioned radiotelescope to accomplish!

    There's gadgets, and there's just plain stupid. Most of the pre-Craig Bond movies never cared if they crossed that line.

    Strangely enough, Mission: Impossible did a much better job of showing us believable technology. Go back and watch a few of those old shows, and a lot of the stuff they were doing may have been impossible in the 60's but is everyday tech today.

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    John
  72. SPOILER! Not cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FUCK SPOILERS!!

  73. yes its the jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes I so nailed it!

    mr Bardem's evil man with his big nose, blond hair, homoerotic overtones, blinken-light tech, false teeth and mommy complex is very obviously an israeli jew in disguise.