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New submitter SkinnyFatSmoothNeck writes "I'll be taking a long train ride in the coming month and I'm looking for ideas and recommendations on anti-theft devices to be used for carry-on luggage. The obvious precautions are always taken: never letting the bag out my sight, wrapping the bag strap around my leg while stowed and so on. But as this is a long ride, there will be a couple of nights involved. The first thing that came to my mind is a two-part device that triggers based on a specified proximity and is controlled from a remote (ie.: the device would be placed inside the bag and trigger a loud alarm if it strays outside of range). Perhaps a more advanced, albeit more expensive, device could also include GPS tracking. But beyond that, what other creative, ingenious or downright sensible solutions do you have to offer?"

293 comments

  1. Simple is not always best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Long piece of String?

    1. Re:Simple is not always best by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The simple solutions are often the best. I've previously used a pacsafe cage, which is a wire cover for your bag that you can padlock to a strut or bar on the luggage rack.

    2. Re:Simple is not always best by symes · · Score: 5, Funny

      I always found an unusual odor puts off most people, including airport security. I was once pulled over at Charles de Gaul, on my way home, opened the case and was quickly told to be on my way. I had been traveling for some time and hadn't had any opportunity to launder stuff for a while.

    3. Re:Simple is not always best by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Bottle of skunk scent?

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    4. Re:Simple is not always best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always found an unusual odor puts off most people, including airport security. I was once pulled over at Charles de Gaul, on my way home, opened the case and was quickly told to be on my way. I had been traveling for some time and hadn't had any opportunity to launder stuff for a while.

      I did this once on a trip to Australia. The food sniffer dogs loved my bag :(

    5. Re:Simple is not always best by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 2

      People have modded you funny. I've done a few long trips, you're not joking.

    6. Re:Simple is not always best by TekWare · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You are exactly correct on this. I once spent some time in the Amazon in Equador. Was rained on for days. On trip back out of jungle, caught jungle bus (rooftop ride), only to encounter the bridge was washed out. Hiked 17km with all my gear to get to Tena. Literally caught bus to Quito by running in front of it. Hoped on bus for a long bus ride. Two hours later bus was stopped at army checkpoint where we had to show our papers. Everyone was allowed back on the bus but me. Spent 4 hours standing next to guys with machine guns (furious staring does not harm them), until I was able to stop a pickup truck and hired the guy to take me to Quito for $10US. Spent the night in the back of the truck lying on sacks of coffee beans watching the Southern Cross as we drove through the Andes Mountains. He dropped my off at Quito International at 6am with minutes to spare. Had time to shrink wrap my backpack and board my flight - still in the same clothes and boots I was wearing in the jungle the day before. When I landed in Panama you have to push a red button at customs. If the light flashes green you go on your way. If it flashes red you get searched. I got red. They made me take the shrink wrap off my backpack, as they were asking me where I had been and what I was doing. Long story short, she only got the zip on the pack open about six inches, as I was explaining I had just came from the Amazon Jungle. She was getting a good whiff of me by then too. The zip was quickly done right back up and I was sent on my way.

    7. Re:Simple is not always best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously, the bean counters had the day off!

  2. I'm Here GPS Tracker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not yet on sale but this is something to keep in mind down the road: http://uncrate.com/stuff/im-here-gps-tracker/

  3. Don't fly (at least in US) by jd2112 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any security device would be considered a bomb by the TSA and dealt with accordingly.

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    1. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Osgeld · · Score: 4, Funny

      yea cause we all know trains fly

    2. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps you weren't listening. He just wants to use a remote control with wireles receiver in the luggage. How could that raise a red flag?

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    3. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you weren't listening. He just wants to use a remote control with wireles receiver in the luggage. How could that raise a red flag?

      Just like shampoo or biscuits. Seriously, did you ever see a list of items banned on airplanes?

    4. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure that was sarcasm.

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    5. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, what if the device interferes with the TSA inspection in some way? What if it even just embarrasses the TSA
      if yet another TSA checker is caught stealing from people's luggage? Sure the guy who brought your device to the
      checkpoint will get his ass kicked, but they can decide to kick yours as well! Not such a good idea after all, is it, if you
      think about what can happen to you

    6. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by crutchy · · Score: 0

      it is against the /. tos to RTFA, and it is a crime against humanity to post any comment that doesn't start a flame war

    7. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I've flown with radios (Motorola CP200, the kind on the belt of the TSA agents) and I've only had one TSA agent give them a second look. Wasn't a problem then she just took a closer look. These radios look like a solid piece of aluminum on the x-ray machine. I'm thinking a commercially available alarm won't be an issue.

    8. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you put a bomb in your carry on luggage and in your check in luggage, there's a good chance the TSA will only pick up one of them, because when they find one they will be to distracted with patting each other on the back for justifying their own existence to give a damn about anything else till the next shift change at least

    9. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      TSA checkpoints are at train stations as well.

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    10. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If he's taking a multi-day train trip, it's almost certainly not in the US (may God have mercy on his soul if it is).

    11. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Informative

      If he's taking a multi-day train trip, it's almost certainly not in the US (may God have mercy on his soul if it is).

      I have no idea where the OP is traveling but there are plenty of long distance Amtrak train trips in the US - and a lot of them across scenic routes. I have done Chicago to San Francisco on the California Zephyr and the views of the rockies were stunning. I've also done San Francisco - LA - San Diego which while it was only an single day trip again had stunning views along the way.

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    12. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it is a multi-day train trip, don't sit in the coach car. Get a compartment, or cabin, or roomette (whatever they are called). Store your stuff in there and lock the door when you go out.

    13. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by reboot246 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      TSA checkpoints are at train stations as well.

      That was something I could never understand. Why would the TSA even need to be concerned about trains? A terrorist wouldn't board a train with a bomb. A terrorist would plant a bomb in a strategic location somewhere along the tracks, and blow it up from a safe distance. Of course, the TSA desperately needs to justify its existence and taking the security theater show on the road is one way to do it. Wait a year or two and they'll be in shopping centers, theaters, malls, sports events, and your neighborhood. Your papers, please.

    14. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why would the TSA be providing security for sports games?

    15. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As much as I hate the TSA, the odds are good that the flight would be canceled and the entire airport shut down for investigation. They may be a bunch of child molesting perverts, but they are definitely not above overreacting, so they'd probably shut down the other airport as well, just to be safe.

    16. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

      Which ones, exactly? I take the train quite a bit, and I've yet to even walk through a metal detector or see anything more than a cop eating lunch at the station.

      And we're not talking podunk suburb stations, we're talking Boston, NYC, Chicago, Syracuse, etc - large cities with lots of people traveling. Frequently. Including holidays.

      Despite the slightly higher cost, train travel is ALWAYS more appealing and less stressful and invasive than air travel. For starters, the seats are much more spacious, and there's a *real* 120v outlet on the trains running in the US to plug in and charge, etc. You can even get entire little rooms to yourself on a train(of which the smallest put the 'air suites' on super rich airlines to shame).

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    17. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

      Chicago to Boston is nearly 24 hours. I would imagine the longer trips from coast to coast would run at least twice that.

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    18. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

      I don't get this. I have never seen a TSA agent or checkpoint at any of the major rail stations.

      Hell, I can get on the platform next to the tracks without even having a ticket in most places - I used to go into Boston's South Station and grab lunch or take pictures all the time. To get from the bus terminal to the indoor rail station, you HAVE to walk along the platform next to the trains.

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    19. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Why would the TSA be providing security for sports games?

      They already do. The reason most likely has to do with a politician getting box seats.

    20. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by rally2xs · · Score: 1

      Pricey.

    21. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Store your stuff in there and lock the door when you go out."

      Don't forget handcuffs or a bike lock to fix it to something solid in there.

    22. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Pricey.

      He's already shelling out a couple of thou for a train trip. What's an extra c-note or two for a room.

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    23. Re: Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amtrak is great. I've taken a 12 HR ride from Austin to Dallas

    24. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 1

      apk... little help here please :)

      Please no, there's enough crazy here as it is.

    25. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Rufus+Firefly · · Score: 3, Funny

      Number one on the list is motherfuckin' snakes. How am I supposed to travel if my motherfuckin' snakes ain't allowed on the motherfuckin' plane?

    26. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was something I could never understand. Why would the TSA even need to be concerned about trains?

      Of course, the TSA desperately needs to justify its existence and taking the security theater show on the road is one way to do it.

      It seems that you understand perfectly well.

    27. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can actually buy those in many airports. They are called luggage alarms, you put one part in your luggage and keep the other bit on your person. If they ever get too far apart one or both start beeping. Low power, low range radios are used.

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    28. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      may God have mercy on your soul.

    29. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Informative

      I checked into Amtrak for a just so I can say I did train trip. I found it to be overly expensive. I could have rented a car and traveled the same distance, gotten a hotel and waited until the train's scheduled arival for less money. At the time, and I'm not sure what air prices are, I think I could have flown back and forth 3 times for the same price as a round trip ticket on Amtrak.

      I decided to pass on the experience and go to Vegas instead. I figure if you are going to throw money away, you might as well have fun while doing it.

    30. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Then you have never been to central station in Chicago.

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    31. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by benzapp · · Score: 1

      They have them at major train stations, like Penn Station in NYC or Union Station in DC. They usually just have bomb sniffing dogs. There are no metal detectors or anything.

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    32. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

      You can actually buy those in many airports. They are called luggage alarms

      Yep, I have one. They work really well. Both pieces are quite small.

    33. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Chas · · Score: 2

      Because it's not "an extra C-note or two".

      On something like the California Zephyr, room prices START at around $1200 and go up from there.
      One of their hard-ass coach seats is basically $400
      Note: This is for a round trip.

      The Zephyr takes you 55 hours to get you to California. About the same time it takes to drive.

      A car would cost you the same price as a ticket (less if you're on a short trip). Plus, when you arrive YOU HAVE A CAR.

      But, especially with limited time, flying is the way to go. There and back in an aggregate single day of travel.
      Compared to driving or flying you basically "get back" 4 days of your time that way.

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    34. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      yea cause we all know trains fly

      Welcome aboard AmTrak, Happy Landings!

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    35. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

      Doc says it runs on steam.

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    36. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I checked out the site, Chicago to San Fran was $125. Leave on a Sunday get there on a Tuesday. Sounds fun. Not sure how you could rent a car for 3 days and gotten a hotel for $125.

    37. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      They have lowered their prices in the last couple of years then. I just checked and it was $287 for the same route with no sleeper time. Add that to it and you start to see a big difference. Before when I checked, it was like $1700. Actually, once the return trip is added and a sleeper both ways, it's $2200 this time.

    38. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, why the fuck is your grandparent comment modded 4 and mine 0? Especially since yours is factually incorrect, and mine is correct. Seriously, wtf.

    39. Re: Don't fly (at least in US) by phoebbs · · Score: 1

      Nah, from experience, Human Resources personnel are worth less than a dollop of dog poop - at least with 12 of them you could pretend they were fertilizer, and at least then they'd have some use.

    40. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or because there are thousands of people crammed into a small space, which would make it a pretty easy target for anyone looking to do some damage.

    41. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never up-mod Anonymous Cowards -- get an account, like a real adult...

    42. Re:Don't fly (at least in US) by kmoser · · Score: 1

      USA Rail prices are reasonable if you are traveling a lot in a given period and don't mind (or actually want) to take the train. I actually used a 30-day pass to travel across the country (round trip). I would highly recommend it.

  4. Spot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Works well

  5. hooked on high tech? by hurfy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Low tech answer is the alarms for elderly people getting up out of bed/chair. Just an alarm box with magnet on a string clipped to person. If they get up it pulls the magnet off the string and sets off the alarm. Should be $50 or less. Clip the string to bottom of bag and hook the alarm to a chair leg or fixture nearby.

    Or a GPS device with the tracker app and a tablet...of course if the tablet is in the bag.....

     

  6. Alarm keychain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What about a simple alarm on a key chain? You put one piece in the bag, you tie the other end to yourself. If the wire is disconnected, there's a loud obnoxious alarm that won't stop until it's plugged back in. You know, those "rape" alarm for late at night.

  7. decoy by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    Get a nice looking piece of luggage and stuff it with fish heads or something equally obnoxious. Keep your real stuff in a piggly-wiggly bag.

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    1. Re:decoy by ajlowe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Better yet, just use old grungy looking luggage. If your luggage appears to be the least valuable luggage on the train, it will be stolen last. I tend to dress down when I travel because it is more comfortable and it makes me a less desirable target. OK, mainly because it is comfortable :)

    2. Re:decoy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That works unless you want to use your notebook or tablet during the trip. If there are thieves on board they're watching for people with gadgets and they'll take their bags no matter what they look like.

    3. Re:decoy by Whiteox · · Score: 2

      My dad collected a pile of dog poo that he put into an empty beer case, stuck it in the back tray of his pickup to be dumped somewhere. He stopped off at a store and when he got back, someone stole his 'beer'. Hahahaha!

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    4. Re:decoy by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      " If your luggage appears to be the least valuable luggage on the train, it will be stolen last."

      BTW, from time to time there are sales of found luggage at train stations. Tens of thousands of pieces are left on trains each year, you can bid on them with their original content. It's a cheap way to get sturdy luggage for small money. You could choose one that looks worse than it is, to deter thieves.

    5. Re:decoy by sumdumass · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      That's strange, I was driving down the road and someone's empty beer case blew out of the back of his truck. It missed my car, but my friends car who was following me smelled like dog shit for a day or two.

    6. Re:decoy by Sigg3.net · · Score: 1

      When I was a conscientous objector I was often sent out with huge amounts of dollar bills to be sent to our field offices or million dollar contracts to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Alone. On foot and public transport. Wearing my "best".

      Because, as my boss put it, "nobody's gonna rob _you_." :D

    7. Re:decoy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Delta stole my $300 suitcase and everything inside it. Just clothing and tolietries, but still pisses me off.

    8. Re:decoy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought it for $25 from a Delta auction. It's great luggage, but your underwear didn't fit me.

  8. luggage loser by turkeydance · · Score: 5, Interesting

    this is what works for me: hideously ugly and decrepit luggage. Since 1992. Never failed once.

    1. Re:luggage loser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      this is what works for me:
      hideously ugly and decrepit luggage.
      Since 1992. Never failed once.

      Yeah, good luck with that shit when the next hipster comes along and thinks your "retro" luggage is far too cool to pass up.

    2. Re:luggage loser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      this is what works for me:
      hideously ugly and decrepit luggage.
      Since 1992. Never failed once.

      Yeah, good luck with that shit when the next hipster comes along and thinks your "retro" luggage is far too cool to pass up.

      Put some weights in it, and his womanly hipster shoulders will dislocate with a sickly pop.

    3. Re:luggage loser by The+Dark · · Score: 5, Funny

      this is what works for me:
      hideously ugly and decrepit luggage.
      Since 1992. Never failed once.

      Sure, that works for you, but what would you suggest for those of us who aren't hideously ugly?

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    4. Re:luggage loser by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

      If you think you're luggage makes you pretty, you're carrying some serious luggage 'up there.

    5. Re:luggage loser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      See this is why I put up with reading slashdot every day, to find gems like this!

    6. Re:luggage loser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a very nice thing to say about your wife.

    7. Re:luggage loser by cjjjer · · Score: 0

      What if he is a hipster too?

    8. Re:luggage loser by dasunt · · Score: 1

      this is what works for me: hideously ugly and decrepit luggage. Since 1992. Never failed once.

      FYI: This can often be found at your local thrift store for a very reasonable price.

  9. dead or alive? by Chaseshaw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    is your goal theft prevention, or thief incapacitation?

    1. Re:dead or alive? by WhatAreYouDoingHere · · Score: 1

      Hmm... maybe something based on the Magnavolt?

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    2. Re:dead or alive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      either works.

  10. Rape-iscan by tepples · · Score: 1

    Not until the TSA finishes decommissioning Rapiscan machines.

    1. Re:Rape-iscan by crutchy · · Score: 1

      you mean rape-n-scan macines

  11. just google it by v1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    google for "purse alarm". there are a wide variety of options for things that make noise if disconnected.

    for proximity, goole all the options with 'child proximity alarm", this is probably more up your alley. Some only sound an alarm on the kid, some only on the parent with the remote, and some do both. that's up to you what you want.

    final option for gps is a smartphone with a "find my phone" option. Like with the iphone where you can see where it's at from a computer. that would be useful if the bag disappeared without setting off whatever else you had watching it like a proximity alarm, or if they managed to outrun you and hop in a car etc with your bag,

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    1. Re:just google it by pcr_teacher · · Score: 2

      There are wireless proximity alarms (designed for keychains or children) that work with your smart fone, setting off an alarm on your phone when the distance goes beyond about 10 meters:

      http://www.tomsguide.com/us/keyfinder-wireless-clicker-keys,review-1689.html

      Also look for Loc8tor plus: the range is supposed to be 100 meters.

      Battery life is an issue...

    2. Re:just google it by swampfriend · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Don't put an alarm on your luggage. Please. For the sake of all the other passengers, please don't use one.

      I don't have any hard science to back this up, but past experience compels me to guess that you are likely to set it off accidentally many times for every one time it's set off by theft.

      It will cause problems if you are separated from your bag by security personnel in the course of routine security measures, and that might subject you to non-routine security measures.

      A proximity alarm will not prevent someone from taking just the things they want to steal and leaving the rest. An alarm that activates if the luggage is opened seems to me like a more expensive alternative to a crate.

      If I were a thief with your luggage and it started making an alarm noise, I would get rid of it and distance myself from it as fast as possible, without caring about the longevity of the contents. You can see how this might work on a train. Even a loud alarm would be hard to hear when it's sitting on the trestles twenty miles behind you.

      I think the most sensible security advice, which has probably been repeated elsewhere here, is that you shouldn't be carrying anything you couldn't stand to lose. If there's some kind of special circumstance here you should just talk to the people at the train station if they have a safe, a cargo cage, or some other secure place so that you aren't wrestling with paranoia the whole time.

    3. Re:just google it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I've never lost any things while traveling. Just make sure that you don't leave the luggage for more than a few minutes, and make nice with the people sitting with you. Unless you happen to be sitting with a gang of thieves, they have a real incentive to make sure that no strangers are going through your bags as they're counting on you to make sure that nobody weird is going through there's.

      Keep anything of value in a backpack that you take if you need to go to eat in the dining car and you shouldn't have any trouble.

      I think this level of paranoia probably just encourages thievery as it gives the idea that you have something worth stealing.

    4. Re:just google it by Christopher_G_Lewis · · Score: 1

      I got my wife one of these http://www.zomm.com/ for her phone and it works great - saved her phone at least 3 or 4 times, but it does go off occasionally for non-losses. Its a bluetooth device that when activated, alarms when the bluetooth disconnects with some error correction for occasional disconnects. You could attach it to your luggage and it would alarm if the luggage was beyond range. Its small enough that it wouldn't attract attention, and would certainly work. I'd make sure it was securely attached i.e. use a strong key ring or clip.

    5. Re:just google it by v1 · · Score: 1

      Just make sure that you don't leave the luggage for more than a few minutes, and make nice with the people sitting with you.

      Friend of mine got his laptop bag stolen at an airport. He set it on the conveyor to run through the xray and there was someone already on the other end of the scanner waiting for it. He grabbed it, and just plain ran off with it. The wonderful security guards are not allowed to leave their post to give chase, and merely radio'd in the thief. Who got away. They had the regular exits covered, but he ran straight for and out a fire door (setting off the alarm, which obviously he did not care about) to a waiting car.

      You don't even have to leave your luggage for a few minutes. Five seconds is enough. You're not good, you're lucky. And one day you won't be lucky.

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  12. chill out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    get laid and chill out. you might then enjoy yourself.

    1. Re:chill out by sigipickl · · Score: 1

      Seriously though. If your belongings mean that much to you, ship them ahead of time with insurance. Otherwise, keep them on your person or travel by means that you won't have to worry about them.

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  13. Self-Insure and stop worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You could try a carabiner to attach it to something; but I think that would just advertise that there might be something worth taking.

    My real solution, which I use when traveling, is to budget for a loss, and not carry anything in detachable luggage I can't replace. Ireplacables (or difficult to replace) goes on my person.

    1. Re:Self-Insure and stop worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't even need to "self-insure" - just INSURE. Carry whatever you want in the bag as long as it is replaceable, and make sure you are covered for the amount to replace it.

    2. Re:Self-Insure and stop worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These are all thugs looking to take your belongings. Just so you know.

  14. Black Mamba by Modern · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fascinating creature, the black mamba. In Africa, the saying goes 'in the bush, an elephant can kill you, a leopard can kill you, and a black mamba can kill you. But only with the black mamba--and this has been true in africa since the dawn of time--is death sure.' Hence its handle--'death incarnate. Its neurotoxic venom is one of nature's most effective poisons, acting on the nervous system causing paralysis. The venom of a black mamba can kill a human being in four hours if, say, bitten on the ankle or the thumb. However, a bite to the face or torso can bring death from paralysis within 20 minutes. The amount of venom that can be delivered from a single bite can be gargantuan. If not treated quickly with anti-venom, ten to fifteen milligrams can be fatal to human beings. However, the black mamba can deliver as much as 100 to 400 milligrams of venom from a single bite.

    Just be sure to include a return address.

    1. Re:Black Mamba by crutchy · · Score: 1

      the inland taipan (aka fierce snake) is the most venomous land snake in the world. black mamba venom is apparently the fastest acting though.

      average quantity of venom delivered by a fierce snake is 44 mg and the maximum dose recorded is 110 mg
      a black mamba bite delivers about 100-120 mg of venom on average, with the largest envenomation on record being 400 mg

      ok black mamba is probably more bad-ass, but maybe throw a black mamba and a fierce snake in your luggage just to be sure anyone taking it is fucked. just be careful when you take out your trousers though, because that would be a trouser snake i wouldn't want to mess with (especially after a trip in a suitcase).

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_taipan
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_mamba

    2. Re:Black Mamba by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      Snakes on a Train. Coming soon to a theater near you...

      --
      Life is not for the lazy.
    3. Re:Black Mamba by arth1 · · Score: 1

      maybe throw a black mamba and a fierce snake in your luggage just to be sure anyone taking it is fucked

      Maybe not, unless you want the thief to pull out two dead snakes that killed each other.

      My advice: If you can't afford losing something, either carry it on you or fedex it to your destination, ID and signature required.

      And for larger luggage, make sure you get the type where you can remove all handles and straps, or push the handle into the luggage and lock it so it can't be used for carrying. The thief isn't going to waltz off with a suitcase under his arm and catch attention. He may still break into it, but at least he won't steal the luggage itself.

    4. Re:Black Mamba by jamesh · · Score: 1

      Fascinating creature, the black mamba. In Africa, the saying goes 'in the bush, an elephant can kill you, a leopard can kill you, and a black mamba can kill you. But only with the black mamba--and this has been true in africa since the dawn of time--is death sure.' Hence its handle--'death incarnate. Its neurotoxic venom is one of nature's most effective poisons, acting on the nervous system causing paralysis. The venom of a black mamba can kill a human being in four hours if, say, bitten on the ankle or the thumb. However, a bite to the face or torso can bring death from paralysis within 20 minutes. The amount of venom that can be delivered from a single bite can be gargantuan. If not treated quickly with anti-venom, ten to fifteen milligrams can be fatal to human beings. However, the black mamba can deliver as much as 100 to 400 milligrams of venom from a single bite.

      Just be sure to include a return address.

      I don't think the he wants them to die, just to hurt a lot. One of these should do the trick. They can kill in some cases, but at least it will hurt the whole time they are dying.

    5. Re:Black Mamba by martin-boundary · · Score: 4, Funny

      Interesting. But correct me if I am wrong, black mambas don't have feet. My favourite anti theft device for my luggage are feet. Thousands of tiny little feet.

    6. Re:Black Mamba by TinheadNed · · Score: 1

      You know, I've always liked that word "gargantuan", I so rarely have the opportunity to use it in a sentence.

    7. Re:Black Mamba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or fedex it to your destination

      I think I would rather have my shit stolen than completely destroyed by the lowest bidding contractor in the fedex fleet.

    8. Re:Black Mamba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fail it.

    9. Re:Black Mamba by Hexact · · Score: 1

      Ok, tell me I'm not the only one who gets the obvious Kill Bill reference here?

    10. Re:Black Mamba by cuser14159 · · Score: 1

      Ah, Rincewind, would you mind giving the Bursar his dried frog pills again? He's spouting nonsense like a slashdotter again...

    11. Re:Black Mamba by crutchy · · Score: 1

      funny... i wasn't aware 'it' could be passed, let alone failed, whatever 'it' is

      ah hang on... this is slashdot... everything is clear now

  15. Encryption + Cheap netbook by drolli · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Take care that if its stolen it will not be bad for you.

    1. Re:Encryption + Cheap netbook by DigitAl56K · · Score: 1

      As others have pointed out before, check the laws of the countries that you are leaving and traveling to regarding encrypted materials and/or encryption software and what's legal (and risky) at each border crossing.

    2. Re:Encryption + Cheap netbook by hawguy · · Score: 1

      As others have pointed out before, check the laws of the countries that you are leaving and traveling to regarding encrypted materials and/or encryption software and what's legal (and risky) at each border crossing.

      It's trivial to encrypt your data in a way that won't be obvious upon casual inspection and offers some plausible deniability. Like hide your encrypted porn volume 10 minutes into your "Hot Sexxy Babes and Donkeys" movie. No one will notice the encrypted data upon casual inspection, and if it's discovered, it's just random noise and you can complain that your DVD drive must have corrupted it.

    3. Re:Encryption + Cheap netbook by drolli · · Score: 1

      Usually i am less concerned about the border control or the police asking me to decrypt the data on my computer than somebody stealing it and making other use of it, like identity theft.

      If i had material which would incriminate me I normally would not take it on a week-logn trave trough a foreign country.

  16. ..Blend in by Archon-X · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Use ugly, beaten up, non descript luggage.
    Place your valuables (cash, cards, passport) in a small bag - and stuff it down the front of your pants.
    Carry a 'fake' wallet with your day cash, and an expired card or two. Money belts / around the neck pouches are no secret. If you get jumped, they'll look for them. If someone has their hands down the front of your pants, you've got bigger problems.

    I find these are the perfect size for the passport: http://www.gapyeartravelstore.com/Trekmates-Microfibre-Bath-Towel-p-1027.html - and you get a travel tower, too!

    Most importantly: don't panic, and don't be over-protective of your luggage. Oppurtunistic theives (presumably these are the ones you're trying to prevent) - take body language seriously.

    I kind of get the feeling you're taking the trans-siberian train (or similar).. If that's the case, just relax.

    The above is tried and tested personally 3x across russia, iran, turkmenistation, ouzbekistan, tadjikistan, kazakstan, mongolia, china, nepal, south america, cambodia, ukraine, etc etc etc - in buses, trains and bikes.

    1. Re:..Blend in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've traveled enough to know that most people are really too obvious. You don't need to outrun the lion. You just need to be faster than the slowest person.

      I've been with people who flash money. When you pay for something, make sure it looks like you aren't carrying much. Don't pull out your whole bank roll and peel off a bill. Keep your money in two piles and don't ever show the one with the big bills in public.

      Don't act like a confused tourist. My parents used to stand on a busy street corner and unfold a map. Everyone for blocks in four directions could see the map. Even at 15 I knew we were an instant target. You can walk 20 feet down one block and lean against a wall, so far fewer people will see you. Also, have you map folded right before hand so you can consult it without opening the entire thing in public. That said, don't dodge down an alley to check your map. You want some people to see you for safety.

      Don't act lost even when you are. Instead of turning around, just walk around the block or go in a shop and leave going the back the other way, fewer people will notice.

      Thieves also work in groups. Be careful when there's an unreasonable distraction. That guy who won't leave you alone might have someone else taking your bag.

      Watch out for strange touches. If someone bumps your backpack or pulls at your clothes they may be trying to hide other things. I've scared a few pickpockets by spinning around at minor touching.

      Assume you will be robbed and minimize your losses. I've been lucky, but most people I know have been hit once or twice.

      If you suspect someone is a shark, they probably are. Once they target you, they can be hard to shake.

      Sorry for the rambling, but in short, just make sure you aren't the dumbest tourist in the area and you'll be fine.

    2. Re:..Blend in by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 1

      Place your valuables (cash, cards, passport) in a small bag - and stuff it down the front of your pants.

      Bag being small or not, where are you coming by all this room in the front of your pants for traveling cash, ID, and cards? At least in my case, that storage area is at capacity. Using travel lingo one might say... overbooked.

      --
      "Oh no... he found the .sig setting."
    3. Re:..Blend in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Depending on where you are, that might be considered brandishing a weapon and therefore illegal. Yes, my state has colossally fucked up rules regarding permissible carry.

    4. Re:..Blend in by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      Passport + a few high value notes + 2 credit cards pack flat. The front of your jeans is normally flat.
      I normally loop the loop of the flat bag thing around the button on my jeans, and it hangs just behind the fly.

      You'll never notice it's there, and maybe you'll get some winks from the ladies (if you're a man) - and some winks from certain men (if you're a lady).

      If you're travelling in a really hot country, make sure that the passport etc are in a small ziplock bag, or they can get a bit soggy (and smell like testicles.. )

    5. Re:..Blend in by marxzed · · Score: 3, Informative

      this is exactly the right advice for handling cash in less than ideal situations. I always travel with at least 3 days of emergency money plus enough to pay full airfare to "get the F**k outa dodge" if sh*t goes bad (you do not want to be stuck without an exit in somewhere like Laos or Sri Lanka or even Thailand when the bullets start flying) so that means carrying about a grand in US and local cash, some goes in a money belt some goes in shoe liners (liners glued back in with a light adhesive) , some goes in accessible hidden pockets and only enough local currency (no US$) for the day in a wallet that is kept in a zipped up front pocket. sometimes I'll have a cheap wallet with Chinese hell money currency in a back pocket for bad pickpocket areas (Paris underground, Spanish & Italian forums etc), if you are traveling with a shoulder or satchel bag wear it across the body, not just hanging from the shoulder, with it placed against your front not facing the side or rear, and then put your backpack OVER the straps of the shoulder bag, and make it obvious, otherwise a thief will try grab the satchel and pull you down as he grabs and tries to run, and you do not want to be the one on the floor.

    6. Re:..Blend in by marxzed · · Score: 1

      some countries even carrying a screwdriver on your person is reason enough to be arrested, god help you if you actually used it as a weapon or threatened to use as a weapon.... even given that you will get released with the help of consular staff you DO NOT want to spend time in a police cell, in a lot of countries you would be far far better off being robbed than preventing it and then spending even a couple days in a hell hole police cell.

    7. Re:..Blend in by marxzed · · Score: 1

      a lot of travel wear has zip up pockets hidden behind the main pocket e.g. both my North Peak Horizon Utility pants and Vigilante brand travel jeans have a second pocket pocket that my slim wallet slips in to and then I've had sewn in a pocket that is attached to the inside that my passport goes in to.

    8. Re:..Blend in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same anon. We're talking USA here. However, it does put me in mind of a tidbit my father once passed on: a sock full of pennies is legal everywhere and is a hell of a lot better than bare hands.

    9. Re:..Blend in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It gets worse, my parents used to get lost in the big city carrying a map & even though I (as a child) knew the right way to go, my father insisted he was right. This happened until one time he went down a dark alley and we got mugged. The mugger mentioned something about dancing in moonlight and then killed my parents in front of me. This even changed my life & sense then I trained in various forms of martial arts and now I roam the city like a vigilante.

      Posting anon for the obvious reason.

    10. Re:..Blend in by ReginaldBarclay · · Score: 1

      If you're concerned about wallet theft - carry an obviously bulging one. In a back pocket. Stuffed full with receipts and not much else.

      I was .. relieved .. of this wallet about 10 times now, always in overcrowded places (trains, subways, tramways, buses) and only once even noticed when it happened. Never lost the really thin one (passport, CC, cash) I keep in a front pocket, though.

      And if it ain't gone, hey, you've got a lot of receipts to remind you all the places you've been ;)

    11. Re:..Blend in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      * Your parents were killed because they didn't use their hosts file, lol!

      Call me crackpot & such all you like, but until my naysayers here can disprove my points on hosts files advantages over other things (DNS or AdBlock etc./et al, though hosts compliment them & supplement them vs. THEIR issues/weaknesses)?

      APK

      Well... all the "downmods" in the WORLD, as well as off-topic illogical ad hominem attacks FAIL vs my points on hosts... fact! That's life folks, beat me or lose to me when you attack me (and, metrix007 KNOWS the result of all folks on /. on THAT account, lol - see my 1st post)... apk

      P.S.=> I'm outing you, Bruce, Mr Wayne was an idiot...
      only host files can save you! ... apk

    12. Re:..Blend in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 Batman

    13. Re:..Blend in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... have you map folded right before hand so you can consult it ...

      Then people can see what your destination is. Probably not a problem for pick-pockets, but if someone knows you have something valuable in your car or your hotel, it becomes an opportunity.

  17. Use a lock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best.

    Unless you're travelling with nuclear secrets, or gold buillion, all you have to do is make your luggage less attractive to passing thieves than your neighbours luggage.

    1. Re:Use a lock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not a thief, but wouldn't luggage with a lock look more attractive? I mean there's gotta be something of value in there, right?

  18. pack inteligently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you're truly paranoid there will be a theft, then leave your jewels at home (or just leave your suitcase full of cocaine at home). Also good is not being a jerk, believe it or not people are less likely to steal if you don't upset them, say with your obnoxiously beeping luggage. It's hard but some faith in humanity is not always misplaced. I travel across the US via train somewhat annually and have never experienced a theft.

    1. Re:pack inteligently by azalin · · Score: 1

      or just leave your suitcase full of cocaine at home.

      And what would be the point of traveling then?

  19. Get a room. by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've taken long train trips. If I expect to have to sleep, I get a room in a sleeper car. If you've got the money to spend on some sort of GPS tracking system and proximity alarm, you can afford a sleeper car. If you can't afford that, lock the zippers, tie the bag(s) to your leg and dream about the day when you can afford to travel in comfort. A well-designed travel bag will be configured so all of the zippers can come together in one location and be locked with a single lock. Even my super fancy camera/laptop bag with 5 external zippered pockets can be locked with two locks.

    1. Re:Get a room. by mlts · · Score: 1

      Here is what I do, if on a long train trip:

      The *real* sensitive stuff, I'd see about having shipped insured by Fedex or another good shipping company. That way, you will be assured you get your stuff or a check for the amount of how much it cost.

      Now, get yourself some TourSafe luggage from pacsafe.com. This has embedded "chainmail" in rather large links between the fabric. It won't stop someone determined, but it will slow the thief with the pocketknife. Then buy yourself a decent combo padlock. You don't need a Sargent & Greenleaf 8077AD. Get yourself a few decent locks (Non-TSA , obviously) and call the job done.

      If you want to protect an existing backpack, PacSafe also has security "sacks" which can go over items, then lock to something.

      This won't provide you with Fort Knox protection, but it will resist a sneak thief well enough.

    2. Re:Get a room. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      And put duct tape on the zipper. I can get in your bag in 30 seconds with a bic pen.

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      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    3. Re:Get a room. by thephydes · · Score: 1

      Pacsafe travel goods? Yes I can recommend them. A bit expensive but hey so are my SLR and lenses.

    4. Re:Get a room. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've taken long train trips. If I expect to have to sleep, I get a room in a sleeper car. If you've got the money to spend on some sort of GPS tracking system and proximity alarm,

      this

      or fly so the trip is much shorter.

      either way, if you are taking expensive-enough of stuff and want fancy alarms for your bags.. you obviously could spring for the more expensive travel itinerary.

      otherwise, leave anything you don't want stolen at home, and cram your travel docs down your pants. if you're like most /.ers, no one would even consider digging in your pants.

    5. Re:Get a room. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can get into his bag... that has locks on it... with a bic pen... in 30 seconds.

      Man, that's idiotic in a number of ways.

      1. If you're referring to the bike-lock style locks with the circular keys, the SINGLE brand of lock that was affected recalled all the bad locks pretty much immediately, and that problem hasn't existed for a long, long time.
      2. If you're referring to somehow using the pen casing to slide alongside the lock's post and twist it to unlock it, that tends to only be on cheap locks, and can be avoided very easily by imply LOOKING AT THE UNLOCKED LOCK POSTS and avoiding ones witht his vulnerability.
      3. Aside from that, I don't know if you're planning to stab the luggage and tear open the hole maybe? Generally speaking, good luggage tends to be quite difficult to just tear apart. One would argue that good luggage is specifically DESIGNED to make this extremely difficult.

      So I'm sorry, I'm going to have to call an absolutely massive [citation needed] or at least an explanation on your post.

    6. Re:Get a room. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Replying to myself after realizing where you're coming from.

      Assumingly you mean 4: Stab the zipper so that a few teeth pop, which let you unzip the rest.

      a) You realize that duct tape is ridiculously easy to peel, right? I mean, it's not easy like scotch tape or something, but... it's tape. Find an edge, pull. This isn't going to take more than a few seconds. And for such a blindingly easy to get around "precaution", do you REALLY want sticky tape residue permenantly on your luggage?
      b) I may well be mistaken, but again with good luggage, they tend to be protected as best possible from this.
      c) This is ridiculously easily avoided (or at least made exceedingly annoying to work around) by tightly tied (as in, needs to be cut off, not easily untied) twine around the luggage (in such a way to not just be pulled over the side). If they have the means to cut that, they have the means to get in a helluva lot easier. Honestly, a pair of pliers would do more to get into luggage than a knife. Break the zipper tab, mangle the zipper head open, there you go. But your pen would be worthless, so this would avoid the opportunistic thieves, but a determined thief would only need that pair of pliers, aviation snips, or a knife (although they risk damaging things they may want with that) or some other actual tool.

  20. Handcuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just handcuff the luggage to yourself. They'll have to cut the cuff, or your arm, to get it off.

    1. Re:Handcuff by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      The article image for this is amazingly appropriate.

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      I'm a good cook. I'm a fantastic eater. - Steven Brust
    2. Re:Handcuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks good on TV, but a good kick or jostle can cause some serious tendon damage with a standard police handcuff. At least use a locking leather bondage strap cuff on your arm, then handcuff the luggage to the leather cuff's D-ring.

    3. Re:Handcuff by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      No, handcuff the luggage to the metal bar on the luggage shelf.

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  21. locks and cables by erice · · Score: 4, Informative

    I do a lot of travel in third world countries where theft risk is a big issue. I'm not sure if a long train ride in first world country qualifies for such paranoia but here's what I do:

    1) Padlock all the metal zippers. Anything with in a compartment with a fabric zipper can not be secured. There is little point in securing a bag if someone can simply open a zipper and remove the good stuff. A lock is pointless if someone an simply cut the handle with a pocket knife.

    2) String a cable lock through one or more padlocks and wrap it around an immovable object, like a seat leg. I use a cheap bicycle lock much like this one: http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___56711?cm_vc=PDPZ2 but there are plenty of options.

    Security doesn't have to be perfect, just good enough that isn't worth the trouble or risk to the thief.

    That said, there have been times when I would have liked something a proximity alarm: not so much for theft but so that I don't absent mindedly leave something behind.

    1. Re:locks and cables by Plammox · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if a long train ride in first world country qualifies for such paranoia

      This.

    2. Re:locks and cables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    3. Re:locks and cables by mlts · · Score: 1

      Bingo. This is why I prefer hard-sided luggage. It holds less, but a thief isn't just going to pop the zipped area with a pen and have complete access to the contents.

    4. Re:locks and cables by Archon-X · · Score: 2

      Problem with hard luggage is, if you've ever really travelled with your luggage (ie, put it on your shouder / back / walked with it for days / are in an 'interesting' country - they're a pain in the ass, they're an obvious target, and they're a pain in the ass.

      Most people travel with so much useless shit. Here's a game: next time you travel, pack your bag, and take one thing out. The time after that, take out another thing. You'll get down to a point where you have some basic conveniences, and that's all you need. At worst: you can always buy a pair of underpants.

      Last year, had a business trip to hong kong for a week, followed by two weeks in the middle of nowhere in Cambodia. I managed to pack everything (including my work laptop) into a 15L backpack. It's a very liberating experience!

    5. Re:locks and cables by Gogo0 · · Score: 1

      I once backpacked through Japan for three weeks, much of it in secluded areas (outskirts of Hokkaido) where I anticipated I could not often wash or purchase new clothes.

      I packed very carefully:
      two pairs of pants (and the pair I was wearing)
      four shirts (and wearing one, etc)
      six boxers
      six pairs socks
      three undershirts
      *truly* essential toiletries (toothbrush, toothpaste, deoderant, trimmer)
      small japanese towel (HHGttG was right)
      rain cover for the pack (packs down small, but takes enough space to make it worth noting)
      no laptop or anything like that

      even with very efficient packing techniques my 40L pack was approaching full (though certainly not "stuffed" full).
      I'm curious how you got down to 15L for such a long trip.

    6. Re:locks and cables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Problem with hard luggage is (...) they're a pain in the ass

      You're not supposed to put it in your ass.

    7. Re:locks and cables by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      I was warned while travelling on busses in some 3rd world countries, that thieves will sometimes put a child in a suitcase and place them in the hold under the bus. Then when the bus is in motion, he'll come out of the suitcase, and proceed to open, search and close bags exactly like this. At borders, they can stash drugs in your bag, using you as a mule.

      The padlock on the zipper is a false sense of security. Worse, zipper locks are conspicuous and make it seem like you're carrying valuables.

      Locks are only really good for lockers, and for making it conspicuous that somebody shouldn't be handling your bag e.g., locking your bag in a shared room where people go in and out, or when you're sleeping on a bench in an airport. Always hide the lock under a t-shirt, hat or something. Even in those cases, locks aren't to protect valuables, just the nuisance of replacing your stuff.

    8. Re:locks and cables by magic+maverick+ · · Score: 1

      Only two pairs of pants (wear one, other in the bag).
      Three, or even two, shirts (wear one, other one or two in the bag).
      Lose a pair of socks, so wearing one pair, have four (or even three) pairs in the bag.
      You could also go down to five total pairs of underpants.
      Two pairs of good thermal undershirts (wear one, one in the bag) should be enough. If they are good (quality silk or fine wool) they'll last for a few days before starting to smell.

      You wear one pair of pants all the time, unless it gets quite dirty, in which case you switch. You wash your dirty 'smalls' every night (just in the shower or sink of the place you are staying at), and then hang 'em out to dry (and carry on the outside of your pack while walking if you are not in the city). It's possible.

      Seriously, did you wear all the pairs of pants, and all the shirts? Could you have worn them a bit longer and thus reduced them? I'm sure you could have.

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      HELP MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HACKED BY AN ILLIBERAL ART STUDENT SET TO DESTROY THE INTERWEBZ!
    9. Re:locks and cables by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

      Well, his other package was so large he could not put the luggage in the front of his pants.

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      Why, without your clothes, you're naked, Miss Dudley!
    10. Re:locks and cables by Gogo0 · · Score: 1

      it depends on the time of year. i could wear the same clothes over more if its winter, but summer in japan precludes wearing undershirts, underwear, socks, and oftentimes even pants two days in a row.

      i'll take next week (at work) to see what i can get away with. thought i was sparse in my packing before, but i feel like i can pare it down a bit now. it really makes a difference when i'm walking across a country with everything on my back. thanks!

  22. Low tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Back when I used to fly I had a laptop case with a pocket you opened from the outside. I stapled a 10', or so, piece of day-glow ribbon to the inside and a clip on the other end. Theory was if someone grabbed the case it would leave a 10' tail behind. Never actually tried it.

  23. Electronic Leash by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    Try something like this Child Guard Monitor

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    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  24. Strong key. by alexhs · · Score: 2

    Use a good lock with a strong encryption key, as the outlaws will only bother with the low-hanging fruits.
    I personally use 12345 on all my luggage, and have been fully satisfied with it.

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  25. How about... by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 1

    a sticker, saying: "there may be a killer cobra inside".

    1. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Label your luggage as biohazard material. People are scared of getting sick.

    2. Re:How about... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      First, grow a large beard, then put a sticker on your luggage: "there is a bomb inside". No steal, granted.

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    3. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if a terrorist is looking for a new bomb...?

    4. Re:How about... by Technician · · Score: 1

      Better is one with the owner's photo. This has worked for me. An anomalous looking bag is more likely to be stolen than a generic looking case with the owner's photo printed on it. My luggage tags include a full size photo on the back and a passport size printed on the front. Thieves don't like a confrontation. Possession of luggage with someone else's photo ID may result in a confrontation.

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      The truth shall set you free!
  26. How about... (2) by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 1

    a sticker, saying: "smack inside -- want some?".

  27. Ship it. by TrumpetPower! · · Score: 1

    If whatever you're taking on board is so expensive / irreplaceable that you're seriously worried about theft, then use a separate shipping service (UPS / FedEx / whatever) with suitable insurance.

    Cheers,

    b&

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    1. Re:Ship it. by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Some things are irreplaceable without being intrinsically valuable; e.g., I took my laptop on safari in Africa and downloaded all images to it every night. The camera battery, its charger, the camera itself, and laptop were irreplaceable items - they simply could not be purchased outside perhaps Nairobi and were the storage for the photographic record of the trip and thus held irreplaceable images.

  28. How about... by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 1, Funny

    a sticker, saying: "I've thought about this, I've prodded ./ -- you don't want this. -- Thank you."

  29. tip good some times a shit tip = lost bag by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    tip good some times a shit tip = lost bag

    1. Re:tip good some times a shit tip = lost bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tip good some times a shit tip = lost bag

      With that logic, I guess it's a damn good thing doctors don't work off tips.

    2. Re:tip good some times a shit tip = lost bag by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      they don't need to when they bill $75+ for a 15 min visit.

    3. Re:tip good some times a shit tip = lost bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If I got extra money from my organization's customers for doing my job differently it would be called corruption. If my workplace doesn't pay me enough I should look for a better job, not try to get extra money from customers to do my job well.

      But I live in a corrupt 3rd world country so what would I know?

  30. Warning by EgNagRah · · Score: 0

    Put a sticker that states a GPS tracking device is enclosed.

  31. TSA locks = "please search (and loot) this bag" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I assume you're looking for something to keep the TSA employees honest. Good luck with that. Please let us know what works for you.

  32. Some ideas... by erp_consultant · · Score: 4, Informative

    1) Don't carry fancy luggage. It attracts attention and tells a potential thief that you have money and are likely carrying valuable items.
    2) Try and find a hard sided suitcase rather than a soft one. A pocket knife will slice through the more common soft sided luggage with ease. A hard case makes the thief have to work a bit harder and probably skip the effort all together.
    3) Make photocopies of your vital documents and carry the originals on your person and put the copies in your luggage. If your luggage gets stolen it makes it easier to identify you as the owner - assuming of course that you actually ever see it again :-)
    4) If you are carrying something valuable in your luggage then try not to open it in public. Take it in the bathroom and watch to make sure you are not followed.
    5) If you can afford a private cabin get one. The door has a lock on it so you're less likely to have to worry about theft.
    6) If you're carrying a laptop in the carry on luggage then encrypt the hard drive. Truecrypt is free and works probably as well as anything else. At a minimum, create an encrypted volume on the hard drive and put your critical files in there. Better yet, encrypt the whole drive.
    7) Put a password on your cellphone. Android and Blackberry allows you to encrypt the contents of the phone and it's password protected. Not sure if iPhone offers something similar but I suspect it does.
    8) Don't put your home address on luggage tags. If someone steals your luggage they now know where you live and also know that you're not home. Best case they break into your house and loot it. Worst case your family is home when they break in. I just put my name and a phone number.

    1. Re:Some ideas... by mlts · · Score: 1

      As for electronic items, my two cents:

      9: The iPhone does have encryption. I'd insure it, set a password [1], set it to erase after 10 tries, set find your iPhone on, back it up, and call it done.

      10: If really worried about data, I'd consider fedexing an encrypted HDD with your real stuff to the hotel, and using a dummy install on a trip. This way, a routine border search won't turn into a seizure and a visit to the local grey bar hotel when some guy sees encryption and you don't give them the unlock code. Even better, use the laptop as a glorified terminal, where accessing data is done through a VPN and a remote login.

      11: Similar to #8 in the parent, but I'd consider using a work address (if possible), or one of the shipping receiving services (glorified post office box that accepts UPS and FedEx.) This way, the bags can be shipped -somewhere-, without revealing one's home address.

      [1]: On the iPhone, if you set a password (not a PIN), and use all numbers, you will get a number pad when it asks for it. This makes it easy to enter in a >4 number code.

    2. Re:Some ideas... by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      5) If you can afford a private cabin get one. The door has a lock on it so you're less likely to have to worry about theft.

      At least in the U.S., the cabins don't have locks. That said, they do have curtains over the windows and they don't let non-sleeping-car passengers wander through, so the risk of somebody randomly walking off with your stuff is very small.

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    3. Re:Some ideas... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3) Documents have addresses on them, which is opposite to what you suggest in 8)

  33. Insurance by s4ltyd0g · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can't you just take out insurance on your luggage and enjoy the trip? It it gets stolen, you'll get new gear.

    regards

    1. Re:Insurance by erice · · Score: 2

      Can't you just take out insurance on your luggage and enjoy the trip? It it gets stolen, you'll get new gear.

      regards

      Sort of. You get new gear after you get home. For the remainder if your trip you will have none. That's probably going to be an issue because, if you didn't need your gear on your trip, why did you bring it with you? Loosing your camera gear on the way out to a photo safari pretty much blows the trip.

    2. Re:Insurance by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      That sounds like terrible insurance. A good policy will make sure you get replacement items while you are away. You can always use a credit card to buy stuff and get the insurance in before you have to pay it off as well.

      Of course the viability of this plan depends on where you are going, but it may be worth considering.

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    3. Re:Insurance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Loosing your camera gear on the way out to a photo safari pretty much blows the trip.

      What do you mean by camera gear that isn't tight? I'm not a photographer so I'm not up on their slang.

  34. Reinforced bags by rwa2 · · Score: 2

    I forget the brand, but REI carries a line of secure purses and travel bags with steel-reinforced straps and interior locks and bolts and low-profile carbiners on the straps to make it easier to lock them to furniture and a bit harder to casually snatch your bag.

    Of course, they cost more than anything I'd actually put in them.

    1. Re:Reinforced bags by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe you're thinking Pacsafe?

  35. Relatively inexpensive, but quite accurate by mark-t · · Score: 1

    iPod Touch + find my iPhone.

  36. PacSafe by upuv · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've used PacSafe stuff many times. Basically all of my paranoia is gone when I go way over the top some times. I often use them to hold bags on motorcycles and when I just want to leave my heavy bag somewhere and keep it safe so I can do something more casual.

    You can't use them for checked or carry on on a plane. TSA freaks out. You have to pack the packsafe stuff in a normal bag when on a plane.

    I have no affiliation with pacsafe what so ever. I'm just a happy customer.

    http://pacsafe.com/products

    1. Re:PacSafe by Punchcardz · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I use those while hosteling in Europe or staying in dodgy places at conferences (Grad Student). Love them.

    2. Re:PacSafe by SilverJets · · Score: 1

      I've used PacSafe stuff many times. Basically all of my paranoia is gone when I go way over the top some times. I often use them to hold bags on motorcycles and when I just want to leave my heavy bag somewhere and keep it safe so I can do something more casual.

      You can't use them for checked or carry on on a plane. TSA freaks out. You have to pack the packsafe stuff in a normal bag when on a plane.

      I have no affiliation with pacsafe what so ever. I'm just a happy customer.

      http://pacsafe.com/products

      So you have to pack your stuff in another suitcase that is not your pacsafe suitcase and pack your pacsafe suitcase into that other suitcase as well?

      That's stupid.

    3. Re:PacSafe by upuv · · Score: 1

      Check the site at least and you will understand.

    4. Re:PacSafe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't use them for checked or carry on on a plane. TSA freaks out. You have to pack the packsafe stuff in a normal bag when on a plane.

      I have no affiliation with pacsafe what so ever. I'm just a happy customer.

      http://pacsafe.com/products

      I regularly travel with my pacsafe bag as my carry on. TSA doesn't care. Also a happy customer. I keep buying more stuff from them, as the bags seem to last quite a while too.

    5. Re:PacSafe by del_diablo · · Score: 1

      Its a metal netting with a proper lock.

  37. What countries? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You really should say what countries you will travel through. For instance in the former Soviet Union, just get a bottom bunk and put your suitcase in the bin under the bed. Since the Bed is the lid for the bin it is safe. Or get a top bunk and haul your luggage up to the bunk and stow it in the space above the corridor. I've done this even with a big suitcase. In other countries you would need to find out what locking device could be fitted to your compartment door if that is possible.

    And don't forget the most important security device; your brain. For instance, ask the conductor when you would be woken during the night for border crossing or whatever. Then keep a clock handy and when someone bangs on the door, check the time. If it is not the right time, they are thieves. Ignore them.

    And don't forget to remove your airline luggage tags at the airport. Lot's of folks travel by train who cannot afford plane travel. Don't make yourself stick out as a lucrative theft target.

  38. Fellow travelers, and relax by gweihir · · Score: 5, Informative

    Luggage is rarely stolen on trains: Any thief would have a high risk of getting beaten up by fellow travelers. The situation also does not lend itself to professional thieves: The haul is not worth a lot commonly, you need to ride the train for some time (and be notices by the conductor, etc.), you cannot run, you cannot scout the situation when you can finally run, there are usually queues at stops, so you have to steal minutes before you can get off the train, etc.

    So, get to know your fellow travelers and relax. In fact the only real theft risk I see is if you are overly protective of your luggage. It may inspire some amateur thieve. (Of course, money, documents, etc. belong on your person.)

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    1. Re:Fellow travelers, and relax by jrumney · · Score: 1

      Indeed. The poster needs to relax and enjoy the journey. Is he really going to stay within close proximity of his luggage for two days to avoid setting off his proximity alarm? Dragging it with him whenever he leaves his compartment to go to the toilet, dining car or just to stretch his legs and relieve the monotony of being in a small enclosed space for two days on end?

    2. Re:Fellow travelers, and relax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Luggage theft depends on the country. It is/was common in Italy for decades. A couple of points:

      a.) You are asleep. Even if you are disturbed you will not wake up quickly and will not realise what's going on.

      b.) The lock on the cabin door is useless

      Here's what worked for me back in the day when I was backpacking:

      1. Get a compartment where you can pull down the seats to form beds (this only applies to old style European trains)

      2. Have 3-4 companions in the compartment

      3. Put all of your bags next to the window

      Result, any theif is going to have to climb across 3-4 sleeping people to have a hope of getting near the bags. It's an impossible task

      Couchettes are more dangerous as they consist of bunks with a central aisle that you can't block. In that case, sleep with your baggage between you and the wall. That gives you a bit of a chance

      Lastly, if there are guys hanging around in the corridor, talk to the concierge and insist he remove them as they obviously don't have couchette tickets and shouldn't be there. I wish you luck but your milage will vary as sometimes (often?) the concierge is bribed.

      I speak from experience here, I once woke up to find someone rummaging around in my young daughters toy bag - which looked like a handbag. I came close to throttling the guy. He claimed to be looking for cigarettes.

    3. Re:Fellow travelers, and relax by dcrisp · · Score: 1

      I was on an overnight train between Cairo and Aswan in Egypt a couple of years ago. My passport was in my Pocket.. nice and safe. The passport of one of my traveling companions was in their backpack, on the shelf above their seat. In the morning they disocvered it gone. During the night, when we sleep, sombody had rifled through her bag and taken the passport and a few other things. (cant remember what else was taken).

      The passport is the one thing you can loose when traveling that is going to cause serious inconvienence. without it you cant prove who you are. (Some non first world countries dont even ACCEPT non passport identification. so dont go trying to show off your drivers license issued in your home country.. )

    4. Re:Fellow travelers, and relax by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

      Take a cue from the ladies. Lady or gent, a passport should go in a pouch around your neck and then be hidden under your shirt. Keep the neck cord hidden too.

      They may cut the cord and try to get at it but you are likely to notice something suddenly trying to leap off you chest.

      Just keep the pouch out of sight at security checkpoints lest they decide you need to place it on the belt for X-ray. If they don't see it under your shirt, they probably won't hassle you.

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    5. Re:Fellow travelers, and relax by adolf · · Score: 1

      I speak from experience here, I once woke up to find someone rummaging around in my young daughters toy bag - which looked like a handbag. I came close to throttling the guy. He claimed to be looking for cigarettes.

      Finish the fucking story man! What happened? What about the glands?

    6. Re:Fellow travelers, and relax by ruir · · Score: 1

      In here, it happens to have pickpockets or some small luggage theft in the short hauls of a train trip, or if you happen to forget your luggage at the end of the trip. Drug addicts normally enter the train when people is leaving, and if you leave *anything* behind, you will never see it again. Once a friend of mine lost a fur coat this way.

    7. Re:Fellow travelers, and relax by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      Depending where you are travelling (and how you are travelling) - these things are really, really obvious.
      They're also found during 'standard' patdowns.

      For the last 8 years or so (travelling throughout the middle east, central asia, eastern europe, etc) - I got a small pouch to place the passport, cash and a card or two.

      I hook the loop onto the button of my pants, and there you go. It's comfortable, it's totally out of sight, and noone - unless you've stumbled into major problems - is going to have their hand down the front of your pants - this goes for the vast majority of patdowns as well.

      I found that certain travel towels (like: http://www.extreme-travel-gear.co.uk/29-95-thickbox/microfibre-travel-towel-set.jpg ) come with a breathable pouch of perfect passport dimensions. And you get a towel!

    8. Re:Fellow travelers, and relax by H0p313ss · · Score: 2

      I have to agree, I've traveled thousands of kilometers by train in Canada and the UK and for 12 months I was doing a three hour trip twice a week in Indonesia of all places and I have never had a single thing stolen from me. Don't worry, be happy.

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    9. Re:Fellow travelers, and relax by marxzed · · Score: 1

      sometimes you get lucky sometimes you don't, My experience in Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand were rather different with bags rummaged through on both train and bus journeys, in all these cases the only thing of any financial value in the pack were my XXL clothes and size 13 1/2 hiking boots... which they, for some reason, didn't steal (not sure if there's no market for them or realising that someone that big might go all Hulk "cloberin time" on the train/bus .

    10. Re:Fellow travelers, and relax by PrebleNY · · Score: 1

      your daughter keeps her cigarettes in her toy bag?

  39. The Question by oldhack · · Score: 0

    Who's the (worse) moron, timothy or the douchebag that submitted the question?

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  40. Buy cheap ugly luggage by kawabago · · Score: 2

    Everyone will assume your whole life is cheap and ugly and not worth stealing.

    1. Re:Buy cheap ugly luggage by marxzed · · Score: 1

      Everyone will assume your whole life is cheap and ugly and not worth stealing.

      story of my life brother, story of my life

    2. Re:Buy cheap ugly luggage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why, every time I buy a car, I pre-key it.

  41. Bring your IPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody will steal them anymore.

  42. Beehives by spankey51 · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:Beehives by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I was thinking miniature attack schnauzers inside, but a beehive would work even better since I could use the honey at breakfast.

  43. Bright Pink Luggage by Karganeth · · Score: 3, Funny

    There is 0 chance someone is going to steal your luggage if its bright pink. It's that simple.

    1. Re:Bright Pink Luggage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's good!

    2. Re:Bright Pink Luggage by jamesh · · Score: 2

      There is 0 chance someone is going to steal your luggage if its bright pink. It's that simple.

      I would. Just to prove you wrong.

    3. Re:Bright Pink Luggage by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      ...Unless you happen to share a train with a crowd of 12 year old girls going to a Barbie convention...

    4. Re:Bright Pink Luggage by Renaissance+Slacker · · Score: 1

      Don't laugh, sports fans. My father-in-law is an engineer who supervised the construction of multiple airport baggage systems, and is somewhat of an expert on luggage. For Christmas he gave us a double set of hideous tapestry-patterned luggage in all the colors of vomit, all made out of heavy ballistic nylon. He pointed out that 95% of luggage is black, dark blue or occasionally dark green. The floral stuff is easy to spot, on a carousel or in a thief's hands, but so ugly it leaves an afterimage. We've had it for 10 years - the original hideousness and added cosmetic wear make it theftproof.

    5. Re:Bright Pink Luggage by marxzed · · Score: 1

      my main technical backpack is a colour of bright purple (approx. pantone 226 PC) that only a pride parade participant would willingly wear..... my god it almost fluoresces coming down the luggage belt, I'm glad its a backpack so I never have to look at it if I have a hangover when I'm carrying it. there will always be at least one person say something like "you'll never lose that bag". if any one was to do a bunk with it they may as well scream "LOOK AT ME I HAVE STOLEN YOUR BAG" there would be no hiding.

  44. Keep it simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At the risk of stating the obvious: make it irrelevant. Don't take anything expensive or irreplacable. Don't use fancy luggage. Leave the electronics, diamond stickpins,cuff links, and designer watches behind. If someone steals two weeks worth of your used underwear, wish them luck and buy new ones.

    1. Re:Keep it simple by marxzed · · Score: 1

      and even better pack something like Ex Officio underwear so "two weeks worth" of underwear is 2 pairs, the one your wearing now and the one you washed and let dry overnight (or let dry in an hour in warmer climes) at your previous stop.

  45. Basics only by cerberusti · · Score: 1

    Bring only basic items.

    Clothing, toothbrush, toothpaste, and maybe a charger for the basic prepaid cellphone you picked up before you left.

    Anything else is an invitation to theft, and you should consider it potentially lost before you leave. If you decide it is more important to bring your Ipad than leave it home so be it, but the potential cost to you is the cost of the device.

    If your employer sends you, request a travel laptop. These are disposable, and it comes at no cost to you.

    No technology will really prevent theft, especially since anything which will prevent access is also a potential threat to our friendly government, and can be impounded for a very long time.

    So... travel light.

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    1. Re:Basics only by cnastase · · Score: 1

      Keep your wallet/phone on you at all times, bring a book instead of a laptop/tablet and don't leave anything you might end up crying for in the bag. That's how I went camping at the seaside for a couple of years, even if they stole the tent with everyting in it I was able to recover from it and get back home.

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  46. Simple is still best. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a) Get a really loud alarm device preferably one that will break an eardrum. Some of the piezoelectric alarm can be are very loud and run on button cell batteries if you can build it yourself. Less likely to set off a security alarm during check in.
    b) If you buy a cheap one replace the trigger switch with one that will be triggered by opening the case. Magnetic is one choice, exposure to light another. A simple two part spring switch will work if the alarm has an on off switch besides a sensor. Put a piece of paper between the springs and pull it out when closing the case. This will arm the alarm and it will go off when the case is opened.
    Check out Instructables.com for other ideas.

  47. Travel light by bogibear · · Score: 1

    Travel light and ship your luggage, just keep the essentials with you.

  48. Spraypaint the word "BOMB" on the suitcase. by Kaz+Kylheku · · Score: 1

    Nobody would be dumb enough to be seen with that, especially around airports. So your luggage is safe.

  49. Mousetrap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about a primed mousetrap somewhere in your bags?

    1. Re:Mousetrap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like it was successful here: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/to-catch-a-thief/2007/12/22/1198175408087.html

  50. Do any of you get out of the basement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ever stay at a hostel? Ever travel to or through an area of the desperately poor? Oh, this is /. nevermind.

  51. Use a diaper bag by luckymutt · · Score: 2

    I had a friend years ago the used a diaper bag to carry is cameras and lenses around in.No one will touch that.

    1. Re:Use a diaper bag by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      Based on the idea that everyone knows what a diaper bag looks like?

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    2. Re:Use a diaper bag by Kagetsuki · · Score: 1

      If you don't know you can always look it up. INTERNET!

      But genrally a diaper bag is just a big loose bag made for carrying random baby stuff (diapers, wipes, bottles, etc.). A diaper bag is not something that usually carrys anything of any value and most of the time they're beat up and dirty/stained, so they would proabably be good coys for expensive camera equipment.

    3. Re:Use a diaper bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well a co worker has had her car window smashed twice in less than two weeks and the only thing taken from her car each time was the used diaper (or nappy as we call them) bag....
      so basically the assumption that the often less that cerebrally gifted thief even knows what a nappy bag is, is fallacious

    4. Re:Use a diaper bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is this before, or after you've stolen said diaper bag?

    5. Re:Use a diaper bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure the thieves on the train are going to Google "diaper bag" to check whether that heavy bag is likely to contain a camera.

    6. Re:Use a diaper bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vision isn't the only sense, you know.

    7. Re:Use a diaper bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put a used diaper on top?

  52. Check in a gun by bubblegoose · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Having a gun, any gun, even a starter pistol, subjects your luggage to tighter security. For instance, when I checked a rifle for a hunting trip, the TSA walked me back to a room, made sure the rifle was unloaded and watched me lock the case. Then they handed me a receipt. They pay extra attention to that piece of luggage. When my plane landed, someone escorted my locked case out to me, matched the tag on the on the case with my receipt, checked my ID and gave me my case. There is no way they would have lost that piece of luggage. I bet if my case had been lost or stolen, there would have been a lockdown and search. Lifehacker detailed that same thing, I guess professional photographers pick up a $20 starter pistol just for this purpose. http://lifehacker.com/5448014/pack-a-gun-to-protect-valuables-from-airline-theft-or-loss

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    1. Re:Check in a gun by fire_missionary · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was going to recommend. I also find it interesting that of nearly 200 comments this is the only one I know of with the surefire way to not lose your stuff.

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    2. Re:Check in a gun by dandelionblue · · Score: 1

      Sure, it's a surefire way...assuming you're flying in the US. The OP is travelling by train.

    3. Re:Check in a gun by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      I guess professional photographers pick up a $20 starter pistol just for this purpose.

      I follow many professional photography blogs, and not *once* have I head this piece of advice. In fact, when you follow the links, you find it's just some random individual (not known to be a professional photographer) proposing it. (I.E. in the game of 'Telephone' that is one guy linking to another who is linking to another... the message unsurprisingly becomes garbled.)

    4. Re:Check in a gun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny,

      I've flown several times with handguns in my packed/checked luggage. Aside from following the rules about declared, unloaded and hard sided, locked case. They didn't make an issue of it. I checked at the airline counter got the baggage ticket then took it to the TSA officer in a marked area of the check in area in front of the airline counters, he had me open it luggage to check it out and wouldn't let me touch it once he started. Once he check that the regulations were followed and I had no forbidden items in the bag he locked it back up and carried it back to the airline counter to be passed through to the baggage handlers. When I got to my destination the bag was on the carousel with all the other luggage.

  53. Look Dangerous by Barkmullz · · Score: 1

    Start practicing looking dangerous while you sleep.

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    1. Re:Look Dangerous by azalin · · Score: 1

      Mexican food may help too. I pity the thief who enters the small train compartment.

  54. LIke a prison... by jafiwam · · Score: 2

    Shoot one of the other passengers the first night. Or, throw them off the train and say, ironically, to the other passengers "no ticket"

  55. No, no alarms by musth · · Score: 0

    The first thing that came to my mind is a two-part device that triggers based on a specified proximity and is controlled from a remote (ie.: the device would be placed inside the bag and trigger a loud alarm if it strays outside of range)

    Just what we need: another source of loud technologically-generated noises in society, as inevitably assholes would forget the proximity connection and accidentally set them off left and right. On top of it, the OP considers such a solution for the SLEEPING area of a train. Christ, the selfishness.

  56. Don't use anything with a plastic zipper by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

    Soft-sided luggage or any luggage, bag, purse, murse, fanny pack, laptop case, carry case, pouch with a plastic zipper is extremely vulnerable to pilfering. All you need is an ink pen or other small, pointed object to pop it wide open. Locks are of no use.

    Try it. Zip up any bag you might have. A tote bag or backpack will do as long as the zipper is plastic. Zip it shut. Put on a luggage lock if you like. It won't matter.

    Take a common ink pen. Bic, Pilot, whatever. Push the pointy end HARD into the zipper track. Any spot will do. The plastic parts will pop open and wow suddenly it's unzipped. Pull it open as much as you like. Full access. But that's not even the best part!

    When you are done stealing your own stuff, run the zipper clasp thing around and the zipper is back like new, with little or no sign it was ever opened. And of course the thief has no need for burglary tools. Just a common ink pen. Surely that can't be used for evil....

    Why not just knife the bag open? Well, sure, but this way is covert. Zip it back up and the bag doesn't LOOK robbed. And there is no knife to get caught with. Everybody has ink pens. Nobody suspects it. Even TSA lets an ink pen through.

    Pencils, ice picks, nails, even plastic flatware can be used to pop zippers. Probably car keys or maybe even a coin. Plastic zippers are just bad news.

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    1. Re:Don't use anything with a plastic zipper by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      Only plastic zippers? The duffel bags I typically travel with have oversized YKK metal zippers. The zippers pop quite easily with any kind of pen.

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      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
  57. Bomb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A REAL REMOTE BOMB

    Blow up those fuckers and they would never dare to steal again, ever!

  58. pack a skunk by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

    Just carry a small skunk in your luggage.You could even use a descented one and it would probably have the same deterrent effect.

    --
    Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
  59. Re:See these guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would rather not, they're assholes.

  60. You have to ask? by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    You have to ask, about something this simple... Dude, you have much bigger problems. Don't wander out of sight of your nanny.

    --
    Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
  61. Amtrak sleepers don't lock from the outside by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1

    Unless you have so little luggage that you can take it to the dining car with you, then get a good bike lock and chain it to the metalwork of the seat/bed.

  62. Confession of a Bag Thief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am doing this Anonymously because it is embarrassing/super illegal. I used to work as a bellhop at a very large East Coast Casino and for 5 years I stole medication from peoples luggage. It was awful and I regret it very much, but I want to try and give back in the way of relevant information.

    First of all, zipper locks are a joke. Just get a ball point pen, take the cap off and place it on the zipped seam and push. It separates the zipper and all you need to do is run the zipper tabs (that are locked together) back around and it looks like nothing ever happened. The only bags that would routinely get me out were the solid plastic kind that have locking combination locks. Since they have no zipper I would pass them by for a bag with a zipper.

    Also remember that I know exactly where you keep your medication because it makes a loud clanking noise when I shake your bag. If you put cotton balls in the bottle, I still know where the bottle will be because most people put meds in their toiletries bag. And then, even if you silence your bottle and keep it out the toiletry bag I will still find it because your pain medication is in a large orange bottle that tells me exactly what pills are inside. This applies to anything in a suitcase. If you don't want someone stealing your precious items, put them in inconspicuous bags. If you had to hide $10k in a suitcase the last place I am going to look in is a box of tampons.

    There is a high possibility that people will go through your bags if you store them in a bell closet and/or valet type service. As employees, we know where all the blind spots on the camera's are. All you need to do is make your bag look like it would take more of my time to go through. Back in the day, if I would open a bag and see everything perfectly folded and organized I knew I could search the whole thing in under 15 seconds. On the other hand, if there was shit just tossed in, I would really think twice about weather I had enough time to make an inspection.

    I will stop here, but if you guys have any more questions I will be glad to answer any questions. There are more ways / techniques, but this is the most common.

     

    1. Re:Confession of a Bag Thief by Cosgrach · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info.

      --
      Why is it that most of the people that I encounter seem to have been shat from the Sphincter of Mediocrity?
    2. Re:Confession of a Bag Thief by n7ytd · · Score: 1

      Also remember that I know exactly where you keep your medication because it makes a loud clanking noise when I shake your bag. If you put cotton balls in the bottle, I still know where the bottle will be because most people put meds in their toiletries bag. And then, even if you silence your bottle and keep it out the toiletry bag I will still find it because your pain medication is in a large orange bottle that tells me exactly what pills are inside.

      After reading this, someone might be tempted to take their prescription medicine out of the bottle and put it somewhere else. Don't do this! You may get into a sticky situation with security or law enforcement types when they find pills hidden in your luggage. If you have to carry prescription medication, make sure you do it in the original bottle and keep it with you, not in luggage that you check.

  63. Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dog chain and padlock. Keep it simple.

  64. Targus DEFCON 1 Ultra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought one of these "computer security systems" specifically for securing my guitar rig, but I've yet to use it in a real world situation.

    Basically it has two settings. Setting (1) will set off an alarm if the cable is cut. Setting (2) will set off a warning alert if its bumped and set off an alarm if the cable is cut or bumped repeatedly (IIRC).

    Anyways I always recommend them when someone wants to secure something that could be stolen via "grab and go".

  65. Metal Chains by CurunirAran · · Score: 1

    In India, we use metal chains to attach the luggage to some solid fixture. This, along with locking the luggage (obviously) mostly deters any opportunistic thieves.

  66. Bio-hazard label with warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy a shiny yellow metal luggage set and place warnings on it about bio-hazard, handle with care etc etc... Not only will it ward off any thief but your luggage will travel 1st class the whole way. You will probably have to get it approved before bringing it to the airport though.

  67. do it in japan, no security needed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    first time I went to Fuji Rock festival I accidentally left a bag with my (_very_ expensive) MacPac tent and other camping gear on the Tokyo-Narita train. After we noticed the missing bag at check in I had my sister inlaw write up a hasty theft report and drop it at the nearest koban on her way back to Tokyo and wrote them off, I claimed them on travel insurance being pretty sure that the bag had been stolen. A couple of months later a JP box arrived at my house in Australia, someone had found the bag abandoned on the train and, at their own expense (about $80 USD), mailed it back to my address that was on the tag. No return address to send a thank you or a reward, just a note saying they had found it and hoped that it reached the right address.

    If I'd done that here on a local train it would have been lifted by some opportunistic thief before I'd even noticed I'd forgotten it.

    More directly to the OP based on traveling on trains in countries other than Japan (ie Spain, China, Thailand, Malaysia, India etc)

    first, last and only effective tip is that the best security is to not need security: don't take anything that you can not afford to lose, seriously.

    If you're taking a laptop, buy and take a cheap used budget netbook or tablet instead of your good laptop, leave your DSLR at home and take a good point and shoot or a compact mirrorless camera that you can pocket or carry with you all the time, take your old phone instead of your flash new one, and/or your previous iPod/Mp3 player with generic non brand screaming earbuds. I carried an old beat up 1st gen MacBook Air spray painted black and an old M4/3 camera (GF1 with two kit lenses) in sling bag it stayed with me everywhere I went, in my seat, in the toilet, even when sleeping I still had the strap around my body and it became a pillow (as it had a thin jacket in for extra padding and easy access if weather changed). my main bag just carried my spare clothes and hiking boots, a couple of books and chargers/power supplies for the electronics.

    then just relax and enjoy the ride.

  68. Locks are still effective by louks · · Score: 1

    Check out PacSafe luggage. They carry a large variety of baggage that is designed to be locked and secured while you aren't tending to the bag. Their main compartments are usually an aircraft-cable mesh bag with "drawstring" made of thicker,studier cable. The drawstring can be pulled tight, padlocked closed, and the extra length of cable can be looped back to be padlocked to a light pole, secure railing, or even just something heavy to prevent it being stolen without bolt cutters. The cable mesh is covered in fabric and even padded to look discreet and protect belongings. I've used one for a couple of years, and it provides me peace of mind when I travel to places like Brazil.

    http://pacsafe.com/

  69. noise maker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/e836/ == This is good if you can get one.

  70. one word: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pacsafe.

    Search for it. (no monetary interest whatsoever, just a satisfied customer - own several for photography packs)

  71. Insurance is uneconomical by definition by jago25_98 · · Score: 1

    I've never found cover that's economical and why not? Insurance has to make a profit so what's the point?

    So, there's no financial benefit. Anything else? Insurers do a lot of hard work contacting police, arranging a replacement, organising disputes. However... when do we ever see these actions in detail? - or do we get a letter through the door such that we can infer (for example) that our insurance has signed over, agreeing responsibility to a disputing party without our input.

    Finally, insurance is used by criminals to justify the crime to themselves.

    Bad all round. Tax insurance to oblivion.

  72. remote control bomb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    seriously, that way if your luggage is stolen, you can just destroy it so its no use to a thief. I've been doing this for years, and I've only ever had to set it off once. Caused £300,000 of damage, two deaths and four permanent, physical disabilities, but you can't put a price on protecting yourself

  73. I've Never Been On A Train by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've never been on a train trip. Last summer, I thought it would be fun to take a train ride across the U.S.. I got a surprise and lots of questions.

    1. I was shocked at the price for a train ride form Chicago to California! I could fly cross country twice for the same price. Why is it so expensive? I though trains were supposed to be cheaper than air travel.

    2. How safe and comfortable is train travel? Judging by the OPs's question and the various comments, it sounds like you are surrounded by thieves and other scum, when traveling by train. Is robbery such a problem on trains? I think nothing of my bags, once committed to the airline. I don;t put expensive jewelry in there, but I don't fear any losses.

    3. If it's more expensive that air travel, why does anyone take trains? Furthermore, how/why do the scum afford the more expensive mode of travel?

    1. Re:I've Never Been On A Train by Cosgrach · · Score: 1

      Sadly, trains are not cheaper than air. Oh well. That being said, it's my favorite way to travel - even long cross country trips. Also coach seats, round trip from San Jose, CA to Chicago, IL can be had for under $400. If you take a roomette, add about $400 each way. That's not really that expensive figuring that meals are included in the room price. I always get a room for over night trips.

      Rail travel is way more comfortable than flying, It's generally safer in the accidents generally do not involve the death of everyone on board. Also the added bonus that you need not worry about the TSA morons in 99% of the stations.

      Why take the train? It's fun, comfortable, relaxing, and hassle free, few limits on luggage, etc.... For the most part, you will not find scum on trains. They generally would take a bus.

      I have never had anything go missing while on a train. I have had stuff disappear on flights.

      --
      Why is it that most of the people that I encounter seem to have been shat from the Sphincter of Mediocrity?
  74. Simple is always best by sarysa · · Score: 0

    Why not just use traditional locking mechanisms? A tiny padlock may be all you need if your suitcase has two zippers for the main compartment. As for the entire unit itself, a simple bike lock should direct a thief's attention to the bag next to yours. Naturally your truly important items (i.e. laptop) will be with you at all times, even when you sleep, no?

    --
    Charisma is the measure of someone's ability to lie with a straight face.
  75. I'd give my right arm for good luggage security by hyades1 · · Score: 2

    I almost took a job as an international diamond courier...'til I found out I was the replacement for a guy they called "Lefty".

    --
    I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
  76. Trakdot by kybred · · Score: 1

    I haven't used the Trakdot, but it looks interesting. Not so much an anti-theft device, more like a LoJack for your luggage. Just announced at CES. Has a subscription fee, so it might not be worth it for a one-time thing.

  77. They will only do it once by patriciacurtis · · Score: 0

    Carry an extra bag with containing a Tiger!

    --
    http://luckyredfish.com
  78. StickNFind by JStyle · · Score: 1

    The solution you're looking for is StickNFind. Low power bluetooth stickers. Link to your phone and when the "sticker" goes out of bluetooth range, an alarm goes off. You can then your phone as a proximity sensor to track down where your stuff went. http://www.indiegogo.com/sticknfind (to order), and http://sticknfind.com/product/ to learn.

  79. Keep it simple - steel mesh, wire and padlock by rundgong · · Score: 1

    If you really want to prevent your bags from getting stolen you should attach it to something fixed.
    Lock it to the storage compartment with a steel wire. If you also want to prevent it from being opened you can cover it with a steel mesh.
    Things like that seem to be popular among some backpackers.

    It does not say what kind of luggage you plan to bring, but something like this should cover most scenarios.

  80. Targus DEFCON 1 Security System by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about a Targus DEFCON 1 computer security system?

  81. Easy by Cosgrach · · Score: 1

    Get a sleeper and put it all in the upper bunk and close it. Works for me every time.

    --
    Why is it that most of the people that I encounter seem to have been shat from the Sphincter of Mediocrity?
  82. FedEx does not offer insurance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It says so right on their site. They will take your money for something, but that something isn't insurance. Sometimes FedEx will pay out, but that is subject to all sorts of limitations (e.g. they won't pay a cent if they lose/destroy jewelry), and the payout isn't going to be the amount of coverage you paid for in any case.

    Consider getting real, third party shipping insurance. It's expensive.

  83. Do what my father did... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He worked as a troubleshooter for Shell.

    His luggage was a briefcase with a pair of clean shirts and some underwear. Everything else that he needed - he bought on site. And just left it there when he went.

    That makes a lot of sense, because if you're going to the Arctic you will be able to buy furs and heavy boots there quite cheaply, while there will always be somewhere near the Sahara where you can buy a lightweight suit...

  84. KISS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just tie a dirty sweat sock to the handle. Haven't lost one yet.

  85. That's because.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amtrak is a quasi-government operation that has no competition...... so I guess it's not surprising that it costs Amtrak about $16 dollars to make a hamburger

    With the following:

    1. So many people who wish to travel but cannot fly (because of fear, or health problems)
    2. So many retirees who would love to relax and spend days seeing the nation (many end-up in RV's)
    3. Wonderful routes with amazing scenery (the Rockies, the deserts of the southwest, the Pacific coast, etc.)
    4. A government-guaranteed monopoly that includes the ability to regulate anybody else who dares to put a passenger car (even a private one) onto any train
    5. A Government bailout in every year where you might lose money and government funds to re-build any infrastructure that is damaged by natural disasters
    6. A very-durable pre-existing infrastructure
    7. One of the world's most fuel-efficient transport methods

    you really have to excel at business incompetence to be losing money

  86. How to lock checked bags (US airtravel) by Fubari · · Score: 1
    DEFCON 17: Packing & the Friendly Skies As a way to check locked luggage during air travel I found this presentation fascinating.

    From the presenter: "Flying with a firearm requires you to lock your bags with non-TSA approved only-you-get-the-key locks. This is a wonderful way to work the system to your favor."

    Eighteen minutes, seems well worth watching if you ever fly with expensive cameras or computers...
    (yeah, I know this is off topic r.e. train travel, but I thought it would be a handy security tip.)

  87. Custom made by destiny71 · · Score: 1

    out of sapient pearwood. Then, watch as would be thieves disappear, never to be seen again.

    As an added bonus, your laundry will always be washed, and folded when you go to retrieve it.

  88. Don't bother by grege1 · · Score: 1

    A sensible traveller does not take anything valuable with them. Buy some cheap clothes, a disposable watch etc and put in a cheap bag. Put important things like passport and credit cards in a money belt. Carry a small backpack as carry on luggage if you really must have a notebook or tablet.. Get a cheap pre-paid phone when you arrive. If some fool steals your suitcase wander down to the nearest H&M and get another cheap case and fill it with cheap clothes. Claim the old case on insurance. Easy. If you take nothing valuable then you have nothing to worry about and thus enjoy your holiday considerably more.

  89. gps locator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pet tag, it's a clip on gps tracker you normally attach to a pets collar. 100 bucks to buy, about 8 bucks a month for the service. most major US wireless companies have them

  90. Might be a little heavy but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    polycarbonate hard shell suitcase with both combination and key locks secured to something structural with a bike lock. I have used this system for years with the same suitcase. I have seen several marks all over the suit case indicatiive of people tampering with the locks and structure of the suitcase. Never penetrated yet and I have been on the same flights as many of my friends who had luggage stolen.

  91. Cable Lock by dcvchicago · · Score: 1

    It depends on how strong you want your security to be. While traveling by train in Europe, I generally use a simple cable lock (like the Master Lock 4605D, $10 at Amazon). It's small and easy to deploy. Obviously, a determined and well-equipped thief could cut through the cable pretty easily, but it's enough to deter the casual grab-and-dash artist. I've used it for twenty years, and I have yet to lose a bag. Of course, having said that, my next trip will be the one where I encounter a well-equipped thief...

  92. What one can't stand to lose by ddyer-bennet · · Score: 1

    For me, trips have a large photographic component; often it's the primary purpose for the trip. So suggesting I not take my camera gear on a trip might as well be suggesting I don't *go* on the trip (which, admittedly, would be cheaper). And even if it's insured and the insurance doesn't find some way to not pay off, I've still lost the pictures in the camera, and probably several days (or even the rest of the trip) of photo opportunities (can't get instant insurance payout, in some locations can't buy a new camera locally). The laptop (and a good one, with enough disk and processor power and a good screen) is a necessary part of the photo kit too.

    Then again, in my old world-traveling days (1958-1994, I guess), I guess I spent over 30 months outside North America, and never had anything stolen from me or anybody in my party. (Most of that time was in western Europe, but a couple of months were in Africa.) Of course, I wasn't carrying a laptop most of that time, and my early camera gear wasn't worth stealing. But later on I carried multiple SLRs and a big lens collection to the UK, Australia, and New Zealand for a total of several months; never lost anything. And my parents never lost gear on the early trips with them, either. Are things a LOT worse now?

  93. if you can afford a long train trip, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you are obviously wealthy. so take a large guard

  94. NRA luggage tags? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps luggage tags for a conference about Concealed Carry Permits?

  95. Luggage with feet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, they only exist on DiscWorld.. :-)

  96. use a child tracker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a child tracker and stick it in your bags. There are some that require a hand held unit to locate the transmitter and others use a smart phone app.