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Jedi May Be Allowed To Perform Marriage Ceremonies In Scotland
ceview writes "The Marriage and Civil Partnership Bill (Scotland) will allow groups promoting a belief to marry couples according to a report on the BBC. The government said the change was relevant to bodies such as humanists, who are classed as religious rather than non-religious at the moment. Groups such as The Flat Earth Society and Jedi would be allowed to perform such ceremonies."
More seriously yourself take you, be laughed at more you will.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
It all comes down to what 'religious' means legally. It's hardly a new problem. There are many people now who still hold to some religious belief but openly reject organised religion, and many more who are a member of a group most would call religious but refuse to consider themselves as such. There's even a group within Christianity who refuse to call themselves 'Christian' as they believe the term has become broadened to the point of losing all meaning, and instead call themselves 'Christ-followers.' These things really screw with survey attempts.
It's tricky trying to pin down in law something that is in the process of rapid change.
The important opinions are of the two people who are getting married. If they choose to have a bit of fun on the day that they dedicate themselves to each other, why should they not do so ? If people claim that the force will help their marriage, they are not making a claim any less rational (or based on evidence) than those that say the same of the god of chrstians, jews, muslims, hindus, ...
The churches like to give us the idea that, somehow, they ''own'' the concept of marriage. People had been getting married years before the churches brought the idea of religion into it.
Anything that makes a mockery of the privileged position religions enjoy is a good thing. I'm a humanist but would never consider myself part of an organization, let alone a religious one with special legal powers.
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Jedi's are not permitted to love!
Does this mean there are actually females of the Jedi persuasion as well?! The mind boggles.
I guess I'm fine with Jedi performing the marriages, so long as they don't get married themselves.
What business does the state have regulating marriage per se?
Set your phasers on "funky"!
Where I live you can be a civil celebrant and call yourself a Jedi if you want.
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I look forward to the first Unix promotion group wedding. Probably followed by an Apple Fanbois civil partnership.
We already have that in Scotland, it's called a Civil Wedding. (Not to be confused with a Civil Partnership, that's a whole other headache.)
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
... did you actually RTFA? No? Thought not...
What the article actually says is that a spokesman for the Free Church of Scotland - a fundamentalist group with beliefs roughly aligned with Wahhabi Islam or Haredi Judaism. He is using the example of having Jedi wedding ceremonies as Appeal To Ridicule.
The government has not "made Jedi marriage legal", except in a very indirect sense.
Disrespectful to both recognize and to perpetrate a supposed Jedi religion. Not that the logic of the belief system is any less valid but rather the fact that it started by definition it was made up. I am agnostic. Atheism is a belief if not a religion in it's own way.
Who really believes these people really host these beliefs rather than being tongue and cheek believers?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought Jedi weren't supposed to marry, at least as of the movies. Is this going to be an Extended Universe sect thing? What does the Core sect think of this?
"Daddy, why is the groom wearing a skirt?"
"It's not a skirt -- it's a kilt."
"Oh. Daddy? Why is the bride wearing honey buns on her ears?"
"I don't know."
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Why not? By agreeing to get married in the first place, a man is already demonstrating that he's capable of that.
"I believe this is not an utterly foolish decision and that it aligns with my long-term well-being and self-interest."
And I don't think we need any examples to demonstrating the silly shit women will eat up. We have the OWN channel for that.
Well, I think that all organised religions are in some way made up. Most religions are based on powerful experiences that influential people have had, but these people would have had to make up systems in which to place their experiences so that they can make sense for themselves and to be able to get their message across to others.
I have had a long talk with a minister in the Scottish Jedi religion about his faith, because I had found it fascinating. ...
The point that he made about his faith is that he had held his basic beliefs about spirituality for a long time and for many years he had been searching for a congregation that shared these beliefs. He had been part of various "New Age" groups but in the long term, none of them had felt right for him.
After many years, he found the Jedi church, and discovered to his astonishment that the basic beliefs were the same to his. He also told me that while they have adapted the spiritual and ritual content from Star Wars, there is no mythology from the movies. For instance, they don't believe that Darth Vader had existed -- that would just be weird
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The Universal Life Church allows anyone to become "ordained" via the internet in many US States (and probably elsewhere as well). This allows them to marry people. Perhaps Scotland had more stringent requirements of their church leaders in this regard previously?
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Of course not. Mace Windu was a fervent homophobe. He is basically the Fred Phelps of the Jedis. Master Yoda, on the other hand, might hold some sway in the council...
...about the whole god thing, you sure get uppity about "fake" religions easily.
You sure you're not a closeted god believer, pretending to be agnostic cause you heard that's practically the same as that atheism thing that all cool kids with big brains do, but still kinda safer should it turn out that there is a god?
Or possibly simply a troll?
See... Cause only those who give serious credence to the "my god is one and only god and he's a special god and real and not like all those other fake gods other people believe in"-thing get uppity about "fake" religions and "lack of respect".
Agnostics on the other hand go "I don't know. Who knows? Maybe they're right? Who can really know?"
And atheists go "God? Nope. Religion? Silly."
So, really, you sure you're not a pedophile?
With all due respect... naturally.
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How about pressuring the Scottish government to relinquish its authority to regulate marriages at all? That's true freedom-- not stumping for one's own selfish agenda.
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Once again this is the classic issue of what defines a religion. When you get down to it all a religion is, is a set of beliefs that usually follow an un-provable and unrealistic event. Even more so, there is no better "proof" of a religion then a book who's origins read more like a harry potter novel then fact ( The Bible ). So if your going to allow a Catholic Priest to preform Marriages then you MUST ALLOW any one who has a religion to preform the same acts. It's the same logic that must apply to who can wear religious symbols. If the Muslim can wear a Turban then I must be allowed be allowed to wear a woman thong on my head, if I claim it's religious.
Does the priest possess an unusually high mitochro..microchro...midor...f**k does the officiating priest have chlamydia!?
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