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All-in-Ones Finally Grow Up, With Fast Graphics, SSDs, and CPUs
MojoKid writes "Historically, all-in-one desktop systems like the iMac, HP's TouchSmart and similar designs that incorporate a full system on the backside of a monitor, haven't offered performance that was competitive to their full-sized desktop counterparts. Part of the reason is that many of these systems are comprised of low power notebook platform PC components inside thin chassis designs with minimal airflow. However, as mobile platforms have become more powerful, so has the all-in-one PC. Dell's recently launched XPS 27 Touch, with Intel's Haswell mobile processor and an NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M on board, is an example of a new breed of AIO hitting the market now. The system is based on a 27-inch panel with 2TB of storage, a 32GB SSD cache drive, 8GB of RAM and performance in the benchmarks that keeps pace with average midrange full-sized desktops. You can even game on the machine with frame rates at the panel's 1080p native resolution with medium to high image quality. It's almost like the all-in-one finally grew up."
The imac had decent specs for years.
The fact is most pcs sold have value oriented junk as only workstations and alienware bother with nice components. Most enthusiasts and gamers build their systens as a result.
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Nothing is "comprised of" anything else. The word you are looking for is composed. An computer comprises components. Components compose or "make up" a computer.
If enough people misuse a word long enough, that becomes the new meaning.
They were every bit as full-featured as component systems. I'm thinking the Intertec Superbrain or my personal favorite, the Heathkit H89. Writing Heathkit software put me through college in the 1980s.
I guess that lab full of 2 year old existing Dell AOIs we have running liquid dynamics simulation software with tons of RAM and high-end Core i7s is just my imagination. This is a Dell advertisement in disguise under the cover of linking to a third party review. Products like this come out every week, why aren't they here? They're just as relevant as this thing.
And yet, the Dell still has a mobile GPU.
Is this an ad? The iMac from last year has specs that blow this dell out of the water.
... that's how I read the title :)
The submission and linked "story" read like ad copy from Dell. That said, all in ones and midrange laptops have long been best buys in the computing world because all the peripherals that you would otherwise have to pay extra for (and cable to your PC) are built in. It's been the case for years that high-end graphics cards are only worth the money for gamers, video composers, crackers and more recently, gene sequencers.
For only $2100. What a steal!
This is an advert.
When the hero shoots out the bad guy's monitors and the computers stop working, it will make sense.
...will this "story" go away?
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I use an all-in-one. I'm quite happy w/ it - it's connected via an UPS, which also powers my router, as well as USB powered toys, like my phone, my iPod and other's. It has 6 USB slots - 4 behind (all used) and 2 extra on the side.
I just wish they'd toss in an optional battery. That way, in the event of power outages (during storms), it would do a better job, while the UPS could be dedicated to the router. No, it won't be portable, but it does save one from losing one's work if one is in the middle of something.
No thanks...
I bought an HP all-in-one a few years ago to replace a traditional floor tower, monitor and external speakers. With most things being built in, plus the integrated wireless, I eliminated 10 cables, 2 external boxes, and one power brick. A full-featured laptop could also have worked, but it is nice to have the big screen, and I leave it on all the time anyway.
"I can't afford" != "isn't available"
Maybe the article should be change to more of a "finally the last of the PC market catches up with Apple for AIO desktop specs".
(if this was a Dell advertisement, it would appear that their marketing department is taking inspiration from their engineering department)
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
The AI1's are essentially a laptop with a stand and no cover. Have fun upgrading it or fixing it when there's an internal problem. Twice the money for half the computer. Sounds like an idea Apple would come up with. Oh... wait...
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I like the idea of an all-in-one computer, but making them look like a monitor (with a stand and such) is a waste of the form factor.
Units that are designed to resemble tablets, with no stand or a retractable stand, can be used in more variety than units like this Dell be advertised by the article.
Take a look at Lenovo's Horizon 27 inch or Sony's Vaio Tap 20.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ideacentre-horizon-27-review-all-in-one,3564.html
http://store.sony.com/p/Sony-Desktop,-20-inch,-Tap-20,-VAIO-Touch,-VAIO-Desktop,-Core-i5,-Windows-8,-3rd-gen-Intel,-touch-display,-all-in-one,-touchscreen/en/p/SVJ20217CXW
Both can be laid flat, the Lenovo unit can be angled well by it's strong spring stand from 90 degrees down to 5 degrees of the desk making it comfortable to lean over and use to draw. It also comes with a suite of games that can be played while it's flat, from board games to billiards or air hockey.
I think all-in-ones should be going this direction. The instances where they will be used typically in this form factor will not require their screen site to get larger and their performance is easily enough to handle almost anything typical these days, so the disadvantage of not being able upgrade individual pieces of the hardware (screen or internals) is moot.
Key to the old tower is we can add to it.TV tuner card , expansions of all kinds , decent sound cards etc, Expansion and space in the case for other devices ( IDE cards and old drives , drive trays etc There's a lot of things we can do with a tower we can't with all in ones. For the amateur it may be ok , but for the serious computer enthusiast all in ones are too limited to be considered a suitable platform.
Imac's have been way ahead of dell for years in the "all in one" design world. So now Dell finally stopped making low grade garbage all in ones?
Here is to hoping they used the right parts so I can hackintosh it. Oh wait, they cost as much as an iMac.... Ahhh...
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
This isn't news. SlashAdvertorials will continue until we stand up and embarrass the products enough the advertisers tell the editors to stop this stealth nonsense.
if this was a Dell advertisement, it would appear that their marketing department is taking inspiration from their engineering department
Isn't that how it's supposed to work? The problem is that they're supposed to be insipred by engineering's products, not their incomptence.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
When did the 750m became a solid performer exactly? It's a piece of junk that's just good to run Aero, just like any of its predecessors in the mobile GPU arena, where only the top line is a mediocre performer matching the "mid-range" desktop GPU.
So, nothing changed, really.
It's an advert for a low spec computer presented as if it was high spec. 32G of flash storage? Come on, my phone has more than that. 27" and only 1080p? That's a 22" resolution, at 27" you'd expect it to be 2600*1600 or something equivalent. 8G ram? Try running anything "high spec" with that.
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
With some things, they just never learn. And sadly, this march is being led by Microsoft and the OEMs are beholden to their power. We had touchscreen in the 80s. Nobody wanted it then either.
This is BLATANT paid for advertising, especially with the ridiculous title. All in ones finally grow up?
Thing is, do they really think there are Slashdot readers that give a flying fuck about this underwhelming PC.
more of a "their marketers are living as far in the past as their engineers". Not exactly a good place to find inspiration.
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
So, in the end, basically all computers are iMacs, Macbook Airs, iPads, or iPhones now (some made by Apple and others not).
Haven't the imacs always come with low and mid-range graphics cards?
Current spec:
GT 540M 512MB
GT 650M 512MB
GTX 660M 512MB
GTX 675MX 1GB
GTX 680MX 2GB
Maybe this one didn't had the mobile parts? For regular cards I doubt 675 and 680 would be slower than 760.
Seem like Apple like they always do cripple the machines on purpose to make them stink and force you to upgrade at inflated prices though. 512MB VRAM? Why? The 660M is even in a 27" machine which I suppose is QHD? 512MB likely limit your gaming abilities in 2560x1440 quite a bit.
The video performance is slightly less than something like a radeon 7750, 89$ on newegg. You could maybe buy 3 desktops like this for that price. But with in AIO you stuck with that level of performance forever. And most all in one's support dual monitors. Not a serious machine.
http://imgur.com/unu0ROc
It's an ergotron neo-flex with a mini-tower and a vesa-compatible monitor on the front. It's a computer that I can put away every day.
I used to have gaming laptops for this purpose, but I got tired of them dying heat deaths. I can upgrade the monitor and processing parts separately, and use whatever peripherals I want.
bend like the reed
iMacs have been far and away the best-selling AIOs on the market
You need a Mac to develop iOS applications or to test web sites in the latest version of Safari, and Apple has made a business decision to leave a huge hole in its desktop lineup between Mac mini and Mac Pro. How much of iMac's sales are due to this?
pretty much since the first iMac was introduced
Since Apple sued eMachines over the eOne's trade dress infringement, other PC makers haven't really tried AIO until Windows 8 brought an expectation of multitouch input to desktop operating systems.
Set the monitor on top of the CPU and attach clips.
Can the monitor draw power from the computer, or vice versa? And can the monitor send multitouch coordinates back to the computer? The big selling point of the original iMac was less cable clutter.
The biggest problem with these all in ones is that the pcs inside become obsolete well before the screen does. Most of my monitors have survived several pcs each. So I stick with Mac minis hoping that someday apple might just stick the brains of an iMac into amino chassis
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I wonder why they don't make such thing like a monitor-case with power supply and room for regular mini-itx motherboard and few horizontal extension slots. That's something that I would buy on spot, immediately. It's good to eliminate cables (that's reason #1 why non-tech people buy notebooks, not because of portability), but buying all-in-one or notebook takes away almost all possibilities of upgrade. Universal monitor-case could solve this problem.
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We're at one of those plateaus where pretty much any new system, provided you give it sufficient disk space and RAM, will do just fine for almost any average user. In terms of raw numbers, (ignoring screen dimensions and the difference between ARM and AMD64), the only significant difference in specs between my laptop and a Galaxy S4 are the keyboard, hard drive space, optical drive, and RAM quantity. Both have quad-core processors in similar clock speeds, both have wireless internet capabilities, both have full-HD output capabilities, quality sound output, and the Galaxy still wins on battery life.
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