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Explorer Plans Hunt For Genghis Khan's Long-Lost Tomb
Velcroman1 writes "The tomb of brutal Mongolian emperor Genghis Khan — the one who created the world's most powerful empire by raiding and invading across Eurasia, not Kirk's nemesis — is a lost treasure archaeologists have sought for years. And one man thinks he knows where it is. Last fall Alan Nichols, the president of The Explorers Club, mapped out possible locations for the tomb of Khan (also known as Chinnggis Qa'an). His hypothesis: Khan's tomb is located in the Liupan Mountains in Northern China, where the emperor who was born in 1162 and is said to have perished from an arrow wound in August 1227. Next fall, Nichols plans the next phase of his research: pinpointing Khan's exact resting place. 'Ghengis Khan's tomb is my obsession,' Nichols, a noted authority on the emperor, said recently. 'I couldn't stop thinking about it. But I'm not happy just reading about it, or knowing about it. I need to have my feet on it.'"
*gestures*
Will it be possible to identify his tomb after all these years? How are we sure that even if we find such an ornately decorated tomb, that Khan is the one buried there, instead of some relative or whatnot. I don't know, but many cultures have superstitions about their corpse in the afterlife, so that might be a motivation to "hide" the real corpse?
"But I'm not happy just reading about it, or knowing about it. I need to have my feet on it.'"
Sounds liike somebody needs to double up on their meds.
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Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Next story, some Jewish archaeologist will claim to have found Jesus's body!
Perhaps China has ideas of it own on this subject. I'd think they would want to do this search themselves.
Sounds like a branch of the Super Adventure Club. Hope the head explorer William P. Phinehas has been finally expelled.
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(Dopey Stupid slashdot filter kept blocking me from just typing it out... "too many caps makes it look like you're yelling" O'RLY?!)
(Indiana Jones voice) That's usually when the ground falls out from underneath your feet.
Random fact, Khan has 16 million descendants.
Some people die at 25 and aren't buried until 75. -Benjamin Franklin
The US government is the largest, most powerful, most expensive, most far-reaching government in world history, with military bases in some 150 countries around the world. Excuse me if I'm having difficulty understanding how Smalltime Khan's empire is bigger than the US government's -- by ANY measure.
until I took an arrow to the chest. (MongoliaRim)
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Thanks for pointing that out.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I'm certain the discovery was chronicled in the book "Treasure Of Khan" where Dirk Pitt ... oh wait ;)
Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
He could try asking the Rocking Son of Dschinghis Khan.
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Not to be confused, the birthplace is in (outer) Mongolia, Khentii province, not in Liupan Mountains in Northern China.
Also note that Northern China mentioned here is probably referring to inner Mongolia.
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That guy is a rich retired lawyer, not an archeologist or historian. See his profile at
http://www.explorers.org/index.php/about/explorers_club_president
There are zero indications in the linked article that they plan to include any professionals on their expedition, and in his portrait there is no record that he has ever teamed up with such on previous endeavors. Looting or just damaging a tomb of this importance by amateurs, should it be found, would be an enormous cultural loss. A painstaking archeological dig would probably take 20 years and proceed with extreme caution. These guys do not look like they have the patience - to me they certainly look like they would prefer instant gratification and fame by brandishing a few choice artefacts from the tomb if they can find it.
Just because someone at Fox News put "Noted Authority" on the Chiron under a TV guest doesn't mean they know what they are talking about.
I actually did a fair bit of research myself into this a few months back, to answer a question on History.SE. There is indeed a romantic notion of there being some undiscovered tomb with untold wealth in it. Then there's the reality:
Depositing the corpse in the steppe was meant to sacrifice it to predatory animals. According to Mongolians this is the last virtous act a person can carry out. This idea is much older than Lamaism and exhibits a really strong shamanistic element of spiritual thought.
I am not sure of medieval Mongolian burial customs, but at the time he was probably the richest person in the world. Did they bury valuables with the dead at that time? There may be valuable artifacts at the site. It was also said that they killed everyone who worked on the tombs to keep them from talking, and then all the soldiers that killed them.
has brought to the world, it would be a good idea that some try to find his tomb and make sure he's dead.
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So now Kirk yells, "Qa'aa'aa'aa'aa'aa'aa'aa'aa'aa'aa'an!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
my, your, his/her/its, our, your, their
I'm, you're, he's/she's/it's, we're, you're, they're
KHAAANNNN!!!!
Joke all you want, but according to a Darwinian fitness perspective he was one of the most successful humans to have ever lived.
I only look human.
My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
Honest question: why the apostrophe in the name?
One theory is that the abominable snowman is Genghis Khan. They have never been seen together ever. Genghis Khan is immortal but to ensure his survival, he chooses to hide from humans including paparazzi. How did the creature become abominable anyway One is not born like that; it takes hard work.
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The tomb of brutal Mongolian emperor Genghis Khan — the one who created the world's most powerful empire by raiding and invading across Eurasia, not Kirk's nemesis — is a lost treasure archaeologists have sought for years.
Is it not possible it just doesn't exist?
Perhaps on his death bed he told someone to say he was buried somewhere fantastic, and then just give him a viking funeral, just to troll the people of the future.
Why was this tomb not saught after by one of the various fictional tomb raiders, it sounds perfect! Much better than bizarre South American aliens.
Marco Polo writes of Chingis-khan's death:
But at the end of those six years he went against a certain castle that was called CAAJU, and there he was shot with an arrow in the knee, so that he died of his wound. A great pity it was, for he was a valiant man and a wise.
—Marco Polo, The Travels of Marco Polo, Book 1, Chapter 50
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
Most of the initial consensus originally came from the christian historian. Following up historian never really changed that position no matter their belief. All of the "evidence" are actually from textual criticism. IOW "they can't have invented all that story!" : if you scratch down the paint, there is next to no other evidence than that. Even Bart Ehrman (at least until recentely) admitted that it was only "most likely" that Jesus existed.
The ultimate honesty, is to admit in this specigfic case, that we do not know, but most probably a human at the origin of all the myth existed. Anybody telling you there is a "consensus" of historian, really exagerate the case here. There are many historical figure older than jesus for which we have a LOT of physical and written evidence. For jesus ? Nothing practically beyond the bible. Even Josephus is recognized as dubious, most probably a fraud. And nobody else reported the existence of the guy. That said carrier and other "full" mythicist haven't shown anything reliable in the academic arena (and no a book do not count --- peer review do).
Draw you own conclusion. Me after reading a lot of the litterature I am split 60/50. 60% chance he existed, 40% chance it was either a composite (more than 1 persons) or an elaborate myth.
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It only shows that there was a localized in place and time source. It does not show that that source be ONLY a person. That is jumping to the conclusion. In fact taking into account the contradiction, you quickly realize there is absolutely nothing you can do about the person jesus, except it was an homo sapiens male, and his mother. The rest is in dispute. Again the best contemporain specialist, Bart ehrman himself admit that it was highly likely that jesus existed. There is no certainty, as opposed to contemporain people which have a lot of artifact. Jesus , contrary to what fundemmentalist state , has none solid except the bible.
C. Sagan : A demon haunted world:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469/
visit randi.org
Let me get this straight. His hypothesis is that Khan is buried somewhere in the geographic region in which he died? And his next "phase" is just to pinpoint the location?
This is a great way to solve problems! I'd like to hypothesize that P=NP can be proven using clever mathematical methods. I plan to do this next fall. My next phase is to pinpoint which mathematical methods to use.
'I couldn't stop thinking about it. But I'm not happy just reading about it, or knowing about it. I need to have my feet on it.'
I'd much rather stand within the Pleasure Dome / Decreed by Kubla Khan / To taste anew the fruits of life / The last immortal man...
Wait until they wake up The Great Khan's Mommie Werewolf Vampire Army.
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Why are we even reading about this? Are they using interesting technology to find it? Is it open-source technology? If not, why mention any of this?
Any particular reason this was tagged with 'global warming'?
1) Indeed the authenticity of josephus passage is highly disputed. basically the grammar and the spelling suddenly change, a good sign of copyist adding their own "stuff".
2) So what if jesus existed ? That would be a human which died. the rest the miracle the resurrection are myth. In fact since we are speaking of historical consensus, all historian will recognize that the consensus is that it was a really normal human and he died. The rest is religious baggage. The best proof that I am not desperate as you pretend I am , is that I assign a higher probability of jesus existence as human (60%). . That alone directly contradict your diatribe.
3) and finally, you are reversing the "reverse the burden of proof" fallacy of most religious people. We agnostic-atheist do not search for proof of non-existence, it would be rather hard for obvious reason. It is up to others to bring up evidence of their claim. And therein is the problem. Even if there is weak evidence for the existence of jesus, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of anything else.
C. Sagan : A demon haunted world:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469/
visit randi.org
Says the white explorer of European decent. That should sit well with the locals.
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