Ancient Pompeii Diet Consisted of Giraffe and Other "Exotic'" Delicacies
Philip Ross writes "New research into Pompeiians' daily lives is broadening our understanding of this ancient Roman culture, particularly their eating habits, before Mt. Vesuvius brought it all crumbling down nearly 2,000 years ago. Over the past decade, archaeologists excavating a row of building plots discovered remnants of food that would have been widely available and inexpensive in ancient Italy, like grains, fruits, olives, lentils, local fish, nuts and chicken eggs. They also uncovered evidence that Pompeiians enjoyed a variety of exotic foods, some of which would have been imported from outside Italy, including sea urchins, flamingos and even the butchered leg joint of a giraffe."
It didn't matter if it tasted good, the point was you were showing off your ability to buy meat from an animal that lived thousands of miles away.
Nah, donkey tastes like ass.
i don't know why people here are assuming it doesn't taste good...we really have no idea. ...and let's not forget, different cultures have radically different preferences in taste.
it only takes one example, the Asian fondness for the to-our-western-palettes-horrific fruit Durian, to make this point.
never bring a twinkie to a food fight.
Garum liquamen is still in the stores today, still doing the same things it did for the ancient Greeks and Romans. We know it as "fish sauce", with one of the most well-known names being Viet Huong 3 Crabs Fish Sauce.
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They probably preferred antelope with cantaloupe.
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Romans eating Giraffe (with honey?) was mentioned in at least one of them.
This was Pompeii, if they couldn't eat it , they fucked it.
Ever seen the "hidden" archaeological findings?
These people didn't have T.V., radio, or internet, but they put on some damn elaborate sex shows.
It was considered normal to put on a show for your house guests.
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Sea urchins aren't exotic for Italy. They may be considered an exotic food in North America, but they're indigenous to the Mediterranean and eaten in the region.
wolf's nipples chips.
At least these animals were dying for a decent purpose: someone's meal. Exotic animals from Africa and Asia were often brought in to the Roman Empire for the simple purpose of being killed in the arena for sport. Of course, the Romans had no concept of "endangered species", nor is it likely that the giraffe was in fact endangered at that point in history(at least, not endangered by humans). And really, your rant makes no sense. It's not as if the tourists to Pompeii are standing around chowing down on roast giraffe legs or smoked tiger ribs. Should we stop eating cows or chickens, animals in abundance now, because they MAY be endangered 2000 years from now?
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And I've worked at Pompeii. Not sure where Ellis go the idea that there was ever a "traditional vision of some mass of hapless lemmings - scrounging for whatever they can pinch from the side of a street." Pompeii has long been known from both epigraphic and archaeological evidence to have been a prosperous seaside town and popular destination for well off Romans.
That different restaurants and tabernae catered to various social strata comes as absolutely no surprise, especially given the fact that habitations in the site range from modest shacks to villas resplendent with sculpture, virtuoso frescoes, and fantastic mosaics. Given wealthy Romans' well-known penchant for exotic delicacies, the presence of giraffe, etc. shocks absolutely no one.
Maybe it's not pure donkey meat.
About that giraffe leg:
"I'll have the large horse leg meal please."
"Would you like to go supersize for an extra denarius?"
"Err - yeah. Supersize me."
Any Roman city with self esteem had an arena for gladiator games. Part of these was the mass slaughter of 'exotic' animals. Not just predators such as Lions and Tigers but Flamingo's, Giraf's, Anteloupes and the like. In fact, the capture and import of these animals was big business and Rome emptied entire regions of its wildlife. Lions, for instance, are still extinct in Syria as a result of the capture and transport of Lions to the arena's of Rome. Quite a bit of the meat from these games found it's way to the market and was even given to the poor to show the generosity of the games organizers.
According to Ellis, this was the first giraffe bone ever found during an archaeological excavation of ancient Roman Italy.
What if that one piece of bone was a part of a funny advertizement that hung just outside the door? "We don't sell no giraffe here!"
Seriously though, why would they speculate that it was something that was eaten, if they only found one?
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... I hear they taste like chicken.
WHAT ??? Sea urchins taste like chicken ?? No way!! If you have to find a comparison perhaps caviar is the closer (but still far) one, since you basically eat the eggs of the female urchin.
In any case sea urchins are more of a delicacy or condiment at best, not a consistent source of proteins. If anything because finding them, fishing them (and opening them) requires some dedicated manual effort, which is not easy to scale or automate.
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Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar. Tuscany fried bats.
BRIAN: Larks' tongues. Otters' noses. Ocelot spleens.
REG: Got any nuts?
BRIAN: I haven't got any nuts. Sorry. I've got wrens' livers, badgers' spleens--
REG: No, no, no.
BRIAN: Otters' noses?
REG: I don't want any of that Roman rubbish.
JUDITH: Why don't you sell proper food?
BRIAN: Proper food?
REG: Yeah, not those rich imperialist tit-bits.
BRIAN: Well, don't blame me. I didn't ask to sell this stuff.
REG: All right. Bag of otters' noses, then.
You must have had that Chinese Walmart donkey with extra fox meat...
If the history's first FDA-like authority approved of giraffe even for the Chosen, why should we be surprised, the unenlightened pagans ate it?
What is interesting in the article is that the Romans possessed the technology — and the economy — to bring such exotics foods into Italy from thousands of miles away in a manner, that, while possibly expensive, was still affordable for the citizenry.
But we've known of such achievements for ages — Romans, for example, have largely stopped growing wheat in Italy long before Julius Caesar. Because it was cheaper to bring stuff over from Africa. (This made Egypt the place of strategic importance in the later civil wars.)
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It must taste like chicken.
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It's the Old Testament where the God of the Israelites rains fire and brimstone on wicked cities. That had already been written.
You will have to forgive my lack of intelligence on the matter, but what are "ners" and how do they relate to the intelligent narrative of the world and its history? Please explain with gadgetry references so that my feeble mind can grasp this child like concept.
That's a tall order.
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Several centuries before the Romans, the Greeks named the giraffe "Camelopardalis" due to the belief that it was the offspring of a camel and a leopard. This name is retained to this day for the constellation of The Giraffe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelopardalis).
While there weren't wild giraffes wandering around Greece or Asia Minor in antiquity, there certainly were in north Africa, and so through trade, the Greeks were familiar enough with giraffes to assign them a Greek name (rather than borrow, say, a local Nubian or Carthaginian word for it), but ignorant of their mating habits. Perhaps they had only ever seen adult specimens...or maybe just skins.
Whatever the truth, I've no doubt a giraffe dish in either the Greek or Roman style would be delicious.
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I hid it when I was done, thanks
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Im saying city planners goofed on the location.
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Yes , it was before Constantine.
Elokiim was, is and will always be, didnt you read the manual?
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Well, a couple cities anyway. I still blame bad city planning. Herculanium, as well.
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Hannibal brought elephants into continental Europe.
True, elephants to this day have a history of being used as draft animals, but he also brought them farther and under more difficult circumstances (war with Rome).
Pompeii is in the southern part of the Italian peninsula and it doesn't seem unreasonable that giraffes could have been brought as livestock from Africa. Roman Carthage was an important city in the Roman empire and likely would have attracted all manner of exotic trade from Africa.
They used to f...k Giraffe before eating them, proof try image search 'secret museum naples'
Ocelot spleens. Jaguar earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot, they're lovely.
Giraffes aren't endangered. It's like you don't actually care.
I dunno, do car analogies count as discussions of gadgets?
I'd also argue that knowing your audience and communicating on their terms is a better approach than not.
I thought the distinction behind Pompeii was that it, for the most part, did NOT come crumbling down.
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and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and...
Sea urchins, really the ovaries with roe in them, are still eaten in the Mediterranean. This applies to Alexandria in Egypt, and shared by today's Greeks, Italians and (I think) the south of France. They are eaten fresh with some lime juice squeezed on them.
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No, not someone's meal. Someone's amusing. Or do you really think giraffe was a significant part of Rome feeding?
I think you will find that the meat of all the animals killed in the arenas were sold or given away for food. This is usually the case and still the case for bull fights in Mexico and vacation hunting trips in South America by rich Americans. You'll also find that most animal sacrifices throughout history were also eaten. Once dedicated to the god, they were then eaten with small amount, usually inedible things anyway, being burnt at the altar. Any possible food was usually too precious to waste.
These scientists didn't read Asterix from what it seems!
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While not defending "not listening to the Earth" in general, at the time there had been no significant volcanic activity in and around Vesuvius for some tens of generations, if not longer. There was no mental image of associating fumaroles and intermittent earthquakes with volcanic activity. Maybe in Indonesia or East Africa, where such things happened more frequently, there are more grounds for criticism, but here I can't really blame the Latins (Samnites, whoever were the local tribe at the time) for ignorance at the time.
At least, I can't blame them any more than the current authorities for continuing to build Naples (sandwiched between Vesuvius and the Campi Fhlegere eruption centre), or Rome (expanding into the Monte Albano eruption centre). Or San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle and Tokyo for that matter.
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