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Google Begins To Merge Google+, Gmail Contacts
An anonymous reader writes "Google today announced new integration between Gmail and Google+ that sees your social connections show up in auto-complete when you're composing an email. Google says the feature is rolling out "over the next couple of days" to everyone that uses Gmail and Google+."
Spam City, here we come. Why is this opt-out instead of opt-in? Because nobody would want it.
When will they force everyone using any google service to use G+?
What about all these people that have problems having G+? This could well be the real beginning of the end
whoa.. that makes us old now? I still thought that made us cool.
Just another second banana
http://www.salemnews.com/local/x1221263334/Unwanted-invitation-lands-Beverly-man-in-trouble
Though the obvious response is, "for now."
That's great Google. Keep trying to make google+ a thing. That's great.
Can't say I'm happy about how that worked out for youtube but keep trying. You never know.
I don't care that much anyway. I switched my gmail account to be my spam account a while ago and only check it via outlook any so whatever. Good luck though.
I'm just waiting for a conclusive youtube history gets linked in to your G+ display. I'm sure that won't be any cause for embarrassment amongst professional circles.
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I don't know. I use it for commenting on YouTube and will soon be using it for my Google Contacts (Gmail and Voice) as well.
Yeah, Google+ isn't replacing Facebook. But it's working as a way of consolidating overlapping aspects of their various services. If you don't want to go post to your feed, that's fine.
Guess what? It's a condo. It only concerns the 12 people who live here. No one else cares about who cleans our carpets and who's complaining about the squeaking hinges on the door over at #201.
It's so stupid. I downloaded all the documents in the drive but Google doesn't handle french accents too well in file names, AND it creates a flat zip... We lost the whole tree. Oh well, I'll manually re-create it when I migrate over to Yahoo groups.
You can say what you want about Yahoo, they don't annoy you at the same level as Google.
Mostly random stuff.
Oh yeah? Well, a grue eats your face!
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
...I've just moved over to Yandex and given Google the finger.
What, with your bare hands?
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It is no different when people made a stink over Microsoft bundling IE with Windows.
Wrong
They do not wield monopolistic power in the marketplace, and they are not leveraging monopolistic power (which they don't have) to obtain a monopoly in another market.
This is very different from Microsoft, which leveraged it's desktop monopoly in order to try to obtain a browser monopoly, and was convicted of same in a Federal Court.
Just give me GMail.
Why is it so hard for Google to give me something I want and not something that I don't want?
Or is this part of Google's plans to increase their Google+ numbers by forcing everyone with GMail to become part of Google+?
Give it a break Google.
You were cool.
But now you're becoming annoying.
If G+ was market dominant, the argument could be made that by showing completions only from google services was anticompetitive.
G+ is not market dominant... even among Google employees.
An interesting enough point, I agree, but I don't see the need for profanity.
This.
I have my own domain and a small rack in the basement, with mail I haven't used much in a while.. but this G+ stupidity might just roust me out of my slumber. I've stayed with Gmail out of inertia mostly; the handy features just barely outweigh the irritation. But it's really, really close. The Gmail interface changes from a year ago still suck. Badly. Google+ is an irritating solution to a problem I don't have, and becoming terribly intrusive. Youtube integration is actively conterproductive, a constant intrusion of personal browsing into potential business activity. When I log into gmail and open up a youtube tab, it constatntly pops up a link to some warplane videos I watched a year ago. So... I can't browse youtube because if I use gmail to communicate with clients for moonlighting gigs, because those who use g+ might see that and think I'm a nut? No thanks.)
Gmail is a handy web interface to email functions I had thru IMAP a decade ago, nothing more. I could easily switch back. Better yet, I could update the whole mess and run it in a couple of VMs at AWS for pennies a day.
I hesitate because Google docs is handy for helping my kids on their school reports, annotating, correcting, making suggestions as they work on it.. but really it's a nice-to-have. I would miss it, but if the price for docs is forced use of Google+, it's not worth the hassle.
I think not...(*poof*)
And I would have used any google ID for "professional" purposes???
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Wow, all of my gmail accounts are going to be linked to my (non-existent) g+ account? This could be fun.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Use different accounts. I have several Google accounts for different purposes. All are connected to chrome where I want them to be. Nothing professional ever gets on my personal accounts, where I look at political stuff and the like that my colleagues have no business knowing. I only use my personal accounts outside work hours, or on my phone. In any case, colleagues only see what I want them to see. It takes a while to get used to (forgetting to do work-related searches in the work browser) but when you do it's really, really handy. Problem solved? Sure, they could get at my accounts if the boss really wanted to but the boss could also install a key-logger and I'm not that paranoid...
It's their misguided attempt to jump start The Singularity®.
I still keep my gmail account for my android phone, which is also used as *send_spam_here* mailbox, my primary is being handled by zoho, which is OK.
And just so you CANNOT do just that, they weave them together so you can't escape them.
Remember: You're the product. Not the customer.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
The end of privacy is coming, but it's no reason to be a potty mouth...
Gee, people, priorities for fuck's sake, dammit.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Unlikely. Since they're both just out to screw US.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
.....mud pies?
Google seems to be up for it.
I have NOTHING to do with Google OR GMail. I know friends who have GMail accounts, but that does not imply that they use it for social purposes and linking someone's GMail contacts violates any contact who has FUCKING NOTHING TO do with g00gLE. I will sue this spying fucking company
I can assure you that if you don't use gmail of G+ you will not be affected. People who use G+ will be able to email your friend even if they don't know the friend's email address (unless said friend opts out). Also your friend will see people in G+ circles in their mail contacts. Your email address won't be affected.
why the hell google don't understand that nobody wants G+ ??????????
Yes. But usually under the guise of a GoogleApps account.
bickerdyke
on my personal accounts, where I look at political stuff and the like
I see what you did there.
If Pandora's box is destined to be opened, *I* want to be the one to open it.
Mistakenly use the wrong account ONE time and you probably won't be able to undo the mess it will cause. I didn't like it when my "smart" phone linked my contacts and social apps and I don't like the idea of G+,FB, etc doing things auto-magically for me either.
This crap is just chasing me away from Gmail and G+.
Keep the Classic Slashdot.
Nobody was talking about the videos
There's plenty of things on YouTube that I would be embarassed for the world to know I saw I'm sure. Tame or not.
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
But it's working as a way of consolidating overlapping aspects of their various services.
Overlapping aspects?
They overlap because they, through "integration", made them overlap. They did not overlap until then.
Consolidation? Sure. Overlapping? Only in the sense of a snake choosing to eat its own tail...
"His name was James Damore."
IE listened and could respond to requests over the network whether you used it or not.
IE was used to render Help pages and could infect your system if the Help file was malicious, and you could not change that.
IE was used by MS systems to render HTML whether you wanted to use IE for browsing or not.
You were not forced to use it, your computer used it for its own purposes whether you wanted it to be used by your computer or not.
Ref: #6: You can make money without doing evil.
http://www.google.com/about/company/philosophy/
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That is why I chose not to buy an android phone this Christmas when I upgraded my phone. I really wanted a bigger screen and less headache than I associate with the iPhone. But, at the last moment, I decided I didn't want to provide my phone number to Google.
True. They probably have my phone number already. But, I didn't want to hand it to them.
There aren't really any great options when it comes to phones. You can get an Android phone, which is inexpensive but has Google's tentacles in it, or you can get an iPhone which is expensive as hell and forces you to stay confined to Apple's walled garden and their One True Way of doing everything and fuels a company which now seems have taken the crown of most evil corporation (in the tech sector) away from MS, or you can get a Windows Phone which is ugly, forces you to do everything in MS's One True Way of doing everything, and fuels what is now the second most evil corporation in the tech sector.
AFAICT, the best option is probably going to be getting an Android phone, and then reflashing it with one of those alternative firmwares like CyanogenMod which doesn't have everything linked to Google.
You don't think my Google Voice contacts and my GMail contacts were naturally overlapping features?
"They've changed their website. I've been raped!"
You must be popular on Facebook.
But the setting preference was there already. I apologize to the company for opting out before anyone had a chance to spam me.
Even worse is the al gore porn. "Your orgasm meets or exceeds previous orgasms that have been induced as a side effect of sexual relations with me."
And you don't want to see the racist al gore porn. "It gives me great pleasure when you carefully insert your uncircumcised 20 centimeter african-american penis into my rectum and stimulate my prostate and large bowel."
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
I left google for my own little email server as part of a New Year's resolution. This makes me confident I made the right decision.
Uh... no? At least, I don't see any real overlap in mine. Email address book is for people I want to email, and phone contacts are for people I want to call. The union of those two sets is in the single-digits.
You don't think my Google Voice contacts and my GMail contacts were naturally overlapping features?
I email lots of people that I never want to have an audio chat with, and there are people I want to have verbal chats with that I never want to be exchanging emails with.
Period. End of the fucking story. You are wrong.
"His name was James Damore."
On the flip side, it broke the ability for a relative to borrow your computer to check their email. Typing in a username while not logged in became impossible. It wants you to enter your password. Googling for a solution shows you have to log in, then manage accounts to create the other user's profile showing a corrolation even if it is a casual connection.
As a work arround, I make multiple user accounts for guests, and then delete them after they checked their email. I don't need my account directly associated to some of my visitors.
The truth shall set you free!
I seriously don't know what's with all the G+ hate. I primarily use the unlimited storage for photos on G+ to share my pics with friends and family (their APIs make batch uploading easy, and I migrated several thousand pics from my own Gallery2 installation to G+, including description texts, with a small python script). I am subscribed to a bunch of "communities" which deliver quite a bit of interesting content. And I also *enjoy* the link to to youtube comments as it floats interesting videos to my stream that people from my circles commented on.
He has a fetish for Sarah Palin, Nancy Pelosi, Michele Bachmann, and Hillary Clinton.
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
I don't reckon punters really want all this. Have the boffins gone mad?
From urban dictionary...
punter - London slang for costumer, may also be used for "johns" (among prostitutes and police agents), people who watch porn movies or go to strip joints regularly.
boffin - Colloquial word used to refer to highly trained specialists in their respective fields; especially when the exact field of specialty is unknown.
Usually used when an new and unknown piece of technology is being discussed, and having no idea what branch of speacialty is responsible.
Accurate? You Brits and your crazy slang (chav, wanker, snog, knackered, sodding...). I would have guessed that a boffin is a small widget like a flange or something.
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P.S While you're there can you see if you can do anything about Lady GaGa, boy bands, Simon Cowell (Sorry, he's our fault, I apologise on behalf of the UK), reality television and minecraft ?
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I specifically made an account for my android to avoid mixing of contacts. Very few people I have on G+ are folks I communicate with anywhere but online via IRC, FB, or G+. I don't need their e-mail addresses, and I certainly don't want them shoehorned into my address book.
I just get Gmail via IMAP in Thunderbird. So it ain't gonna work.
Incognito mode?
Yes, I'm sure we ALL know about open-source protocols.
After what's happened with Google's other "upgrades" (for example, having android and not being able to warn people if an app is malware, unless I open a G+ identity service account), I prefer to call this "convenience", a sign of things to come.
And am bailing. I'd far prefer a winphone or iPhone to Google's poorly-implemented and, quite frankly embarrassing, attempt at monopolizing the internet.
I'm just waiting for a conclusive youtube history gets linked in to your G+ display.
Google will never do that. The only thing that is displayed on your G+ profile is stuff you choose to make public.
Note to ACs: I usually delete AC replies without reading them. If you want to talk to me, log in.
Incognito or clear browser history.
You can use the Google+ API for tha-- oh wait. That's readonly.
Well, you can use a greasemonkey script, probably.
Isn't this pretty much what already happened for anyone who "upgraded" their YouTube account by linking it to their G+ account (which was the default choice and heavily promoted by having spam-like dialogs pop out at you again and again and again)?
Jolla phone?
Of course, it won't actually be quite as good at many things. But that's economies of scale to you...
Well, your YouTube comments were public. Just not under the same name.
Well, your YouTube comments were public. Just not under the same name.
They were public under another name, yes, and will optionally become public under your real name. If you activate a Google+ profile, you're given the option of what should be done with all of your old comments. You can keep them public, hide them, or delete them.
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2657961?hl=en&ref_topic=3097177
Google really is careful about this stuff.
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The way that migration was organized, I wouldn't call it "extremely careful". When you went to YouTube and tried to post anything, they told that you have to migrate to G+, and offered to automatically link your two accounts, determining your other one (from email presumably?). With a big blue button saying "Yes, sign me up!", and a grey and bleak one saying "No, I want my accounts to be separate". Even after I said no, I kept getting asked whether I really want to keep it separate, and maybe I would rather just merge everything, for the next couple weeks or so, every now and then (but certainly often enough to make me quite annoyed). Knowing how many users are about Yes/No popups, always clicking on the more prominent button without reading, I can only imagine how many were conned into merging their accounts.
They seem to have stopped prompting to merge, so now I "only" have to be careful to keep an eye on which account is active whenever going to YouTube (it seems to be auto-switching it to my regular G+ account every now and then).
Amen. My all time most watched videos on Youtube are video game Lets Plays. The prospect of these suddenly being plastered all over my Google+ profile is the reason I will never, ever use G+ in any professional or real name context so long as I live.
May the Maths Be with you!
I don't browse around with an active email login session anyways due to that LinkedIn fiasco from a little while ago and just use thunderbird now, but while I still used Gmail's web interface, the first thing I had to do on my browser was block cookies from youtube. As a result, I no longer saw my gmail login when I was browsing youtube. You might want to try that....
I have left slashdot and am now on Soylent News. FUCK YOU DICE.
don't mind him, anon. this guy has a g+ icon next to his username. I mean that's just the limit of bending over.
Wealth is the gift that keeps on giving.
It's quite clear that someone at Google has Google+ as some sort of prestige project,
and they are quite willing to sacrifice any Google service to get more people into Google+.
Anyone know why?