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Apple Sells More Than 10 Million New iPhones In First 3 Days

An anonymous reader writes Apple has announced that it sold over 10 million new iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus models, just three days after the launch on September 19. From the article: "Chief Executive Tim Cook said the company could have sold even more iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus models if supplies had been available. Analysts had estimated first-weekend sales of up to 10 million iPhones, after Apple booked record pre-orders of 4 million on Sept. 12, the day pre-orders opened."

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  1. Almost twice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    What they sold in their first year. Amazing.

    1. Re:Almost twice by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, that first iPhone really sucked.

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    2. Re:Almost twice by symbolset · · Score: 1

      Obligatory replay of contemporary analysis by noted mobile industry wizard Steve Ballmer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  2. Sales figures are news now? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can we get this in perspective please?

    How many phones does Samsung and Google sell every time there is a new Android phone?

    1. Re:Sales figures are news now? by ugen · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not sure about other products, but here is the recent article about Samsung Galaxy S5.
      Samsung sold 5 million Galaxy 5S phones in the entire month of May (which was evidently the first full month of sales)
      The article says that it sold less in its first month than Apple sold iPhones 5S in the same month.
      http://bgr.com/2014/07/16/galaxy-s5-vs-iphone-5s-sales-may/

      I know there is always a "many Android phones vs one Apple" argument. But numbers are what they are.

    2. Re:Sales figures are news now? by XaXXon · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing its' tough to tell because it's not nearly such a big event. With your choice of a bazillion different models, each with some feature the others don't have, the amount of people excited about any particular one will be significantly lower.

    3. Re:Sales figures are news now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually sold, or simply pushed into supply channels ?

      Apple uses the actually sold numbers, Android used the hidden in the supply chain number.

    4. Re:Sales figures are news now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That report is a bit misleading, given it ignores the first two weeks after launch where sales are always highest. Samsung sold 10 million phones in first 25 days

    5. Re:Sales figures are news now? by sribe · · Score: 2, Informative

      How many phones does Samsung and Google sell every time there is a new Android phone?

      They never release actual sales figures like Apple does. They only speak in vague hand-wavy terms about the great success of each release. In fact, Apple is actually the only manufacturer of phones or tablets who releases actual sales figures. (Samsung has occasionally released "shipped" numbers sometime between stuffing the channel and starting to take the returns...)

    6. Re:Sales figures are news now? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, there you have it. The iPhone 6 is eight times better than the Galaxy S5.

    7. Re:Sales figures are news now? by sribe · · Score: 2

      Samsung sold 5 million Galaxy 5S phones...

      An analyst estimates that Samsung sold 5M in the first month; Samsung does not actually release sales numbers.

    8. Re:Sales figures are news now? by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Informative

      To top that off, Apple always reports actual sales, whereas Samsung reports shipment to retailers, which may not necessarily count as sales - at least not in the sense of sales directly into customer hands.

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    9. Re:Sales figures are news now? by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      Not sure about other products, but here is the recent article about Samsung Galaxy S5. Samsung sold 5 million Galaxy 5S phones in the entire month of May (which was evidently the first full month of sales) The article says that it sold less in its first month than Apple sold iPhones 5S in the same month. http://bgr.com/2014/07/16/gala...

      I know there is always a "many Android phones vs one Apple" argument. But numbers are what they are.

      There's also two Iphone 6's. If you're going to break it down, you should break it down.

      However, the argument is usually Apple vs Google. In which case you can count both Iphone 6's vs a given generation of Android phones.

    10. Re: Sales figures are news now? by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      Can we get this in perspective please?
      How many phones does Samsung and Google sell every time there is a new Android phone

      Well....

        1. The only phone that Google sells are Nexus's and they don't really sell in volume.

      2. Google has said numerous times (including in front of congress) that they make more of their mobile revenue from iOS devices than Android.

      3. Samsung's revenues and profits are declining because more high end buyers are buying iPhones and more low end buyers are buying Chinese phones.

    11. Re:Sales figures are news now? by sl149q · · Score: 1, Informative

      Except for:

      - the iPhone 6 is, well the S3 is so old its not even in the comparative benchmarks published today by anandtech.... http://www.anandtech.com/show/..., but since the iPhone 6, 6+ and 5s are all faster than the Galaxy S5 we can assume that they are also faster than the S3

      - the iPhone doesn't run Andoid ... nuff said

      - the iPhone is not build by Sammy.. more nuff said :-)

    12. Re:Sales figures are news now? by dsginter · · Score: 4, Funny

      Can we get this in perspective please?

      This is roughly 4.8 Libraries of Congress per foot-pound.

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    13. Re:Sales figures are news now? by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

      Not much of a difference from a Galaxy S3, S4, and S5. Big difference from an iPhone 4s or 5s to an iPhone 6 for those wanting a bigger screen.

    14. Re:Sales figures are news now? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Troll

      The iPhone is faster in artificial benchmarks but if you compare real world performance like opening apps or app switching it's slower. It was the same with the Nexus 5 and iPhone 5S.

      There ate plenty of videos on YouTube demonstrating this.

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    15. Re:Sales figures are news now? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are more Android devices to choose from. Choice is good for consumers, but means that individual models can't hit Apple's numbers.

      Who cares anyway? This is a bizarre pissing contest if ever I saw one. Millions of people watch reality TV, that doesn't make it good.

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    16. Re:Sales figures are news now? by sribe · · Score: 1

      There are more Android devices to choose from. Choice is good for consumers, but means that individual models can't hit Apple's numbers.

      That's generally true. Although the top-line Samsung models don't have a lot of competition, and it's legit to compare them to iPhones. But I'm not really trying to do that; I'm just pointing out that Samsung does not provide the numbers.

    17. Re:Sales figures are news now? by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      The LTE Galaxy S3 even had 2GB RAM.

    18. Re:Sales figures are news now? by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Can we get this in perspective please?

      How many phones does Samsung and Google sell every time there is a new Android phone?

      Well it's hard to look at all the numbers together but if we take Samsung's S5 and Note 3 which would be somewhat equivalent to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. The S5 was at 10 million in its first 25 days and the Note 3 got 5 million sales in its first month so they don't seem to be that far behind and given that Samsung - while the most popular - is far from the only Android handset maker, comparing iOS to Android sales of new devices it would seem Android would probably win out.

    19. Re:Sales figures are news now? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      "There are more Android devices to choose from."

      But there are also other iPhones to choose from. Apple still sells the 5s and 5c...

      There are a lot of Android smartphones but not actually that many if you look at the models that sell in large numbers. Basically, there is Samsung.

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    20. Re:Sales figures are news now? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Sold? sold to whom? End users, retailers, wholesalers, importers or exporters. Hell, using that model you can count the same phone 5 times. The infamous sold out marketing scam is getting pretty old and lame, oh my god, buy it now, buy it before it's too late and you can never get one, buy it or be left behind etc.

      If you don't wait 30 to 60 days to buy a new product, then you just become a tester for every one else and the manufacturer as the faults come to light.

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    21. Re: Sales figures are news now? by horza · · Score: 1

      If it's a video, you can see if he is going it correctly. With two factory resetted phones, pressing the on buttons at the same time and seeing which one boots first is not rocket science to do. Lab not needed. Same with launching a browser.

      Phillip.

    22. Re:Sales figures are news now? by horza · · Score: 2

      Samsung galaxy S2 April 2011, S3 May 2012, S4 April 2013, S5 April 2014.

      Apple iPhone 3S July 2008, iPhone 4 October 2011, iPhone 5 September 2012, 6S September 2014.

      The Apple market are completely locked into one device, and are forced to wait twice as long on average to be able to upgrade. Therefore I would expect the numbers to be twice as large initially but dying off to a far smaller total than the Samsung devices.

      Phillip.

    23. Re:Sales figures are news now? by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      Apple uses the actually sold numbers, Android used the hidden in the supply chain number.

      Actually, Apple counts: Online orders when they are delivered to the customer, phones sold in Apple stores, and phones delivered to other stores. In this case, since everyone sold out the number of phones that Apple sold to non-Apple stores and the number these stores sold to end users are the same.

    24. Re: Sales figures are news now? by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      Ahh .. typical Apple iDrone. Ignore that 'real world' people post pictures to facebook and that camera optics become irrelevant because Facebook post-processes most pictures. And that even those places that don't post-process, hardly anyone ever prints pictures anymore so the majority of them will continue to be seen only on smartphones where a 4gb pictures is probably good enough. And that my Samsung S4 is fast enough for everything I throw at it and 'good enough' so even if Apple has questionably better CPU specs, most people won't notice it. And I've had it for over a year.

      Apple drones on and on about how thin and light the iPhone is. Yet ignores that it's so thin and light because it doesn't offer a replaceable battery or SD card so can make the case thinner and use fewer structural components. Nice of them to finally allow their drones to install additional keyboards and provide other features Android users have had for a year or more.

      No matter what features Apple puts in their phone, you can bet that within a few months Android phones will have similar capabilities. And then jump ahead because it will take Apple another 2-3 years to come out with a new phone.

      And that is why they sell 10M phones on their initial rollout --- they simply don't roll out new phones that often and don't have 20 vendors rolling out new phones every other week.

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    25. Re:Sales figures are news now? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      /Oblg. "What it is like to own an Apple product" comic ... http://theoatmeal.com/comics/a...

    26. Re:Sales figures are news now? by wbo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apple iPhone 3S July 2008, iPhone 4 October 2011, iPhone 5 September 2012, 6S September 2014.

      Apple tends to release a new phone roughly once a year. In your list you left out the 3GS (June 2009), iPhone 4S (October 2011), 5C and 5S (September 2013).

      The actual releases look like this:

      • 1st gen: June 2007
      • 3G: July 2008
      • 3GS: June 2009
      • 4: June 2010
      • 4S: October 2011
      • 5: September 2012
      • 5C, 5S: September 2013
      • 6 / 6 Plus: September 2014
    27. Re:Sales figures are news now? by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      It's important insofar as it speaks to who makes money and who doesn't in this competitive space. Apple selling 10 million phones over a weekend means that there's money to be made selling high-end phones to people, and that contrary to consistent commentary that Apple is doomed because their percentage share of the market is decreasing, they can still maintain a robust business based on absolute numbers of people willing to pay for their devices.

      Samsung is the only other player in mobile phones consistently turning a profit based on the hardware sales model. Everyone else gets soaked.

      Now you've also got players like Xiaomi that make money by selling hardware at cost but setting up their own app stores and making money off of software.

      The numbers game is still important, and Apple stands out from the crowd somewhat because they're the only player that so tightly controls both the hardware and software experience.

    28. Re: Sales figures are news now? by supremebob · · Score: 1

      I'll admit that the camera on the new iPhone 6 is nicer, that the display looks slightly better, and that it responds slightly faster.

      Is that enough to get me to spend $300 to upgrade? Nope. I'd just be exchanging one large screen 4G smartphone for a slightly newer one. My Samsung Galaxy S3 still has a lot of life left in it, especially considering that I can replace the battery if it goes bad or add additional storage if I run out.

    29. Re: Sales figures are news now? by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      No matter what features Apple puts in their phone, you can bet that within a few months Android phones will have similar capabilities.

      So you're admitting Android phone manufacturers steal rather than developing innovative ideas themselves?

    30. Re:Sales figures are news now? by iluvcapra · · Score: 1

      The Apple market are completely locked into one device, and are forced to wait twice as long on average to be able to upgrade.

      That's good: With Android, you don't have to buy a new phone every 6 months, you get to buy a new phone every six months.

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  3. Is this related to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do these impressive sales numbers have anything to do with the "announcement" earlier today?

    http://idle.slashdot.org/story...

    1. Re:Is this related to.. by ArcadeMan · · Score: 3, Funny

      We'll have to get the number of microwaves sold during the same period.

  4. I got 4 of them. by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Funny

    I purchased one, but its microwave charger was broken, so I got another but that one was broken too. Each time when the microwave charger broke, even normal charging no longer worked.

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    1. Re:I got 4 of them. by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      I presume you read this?
      http://idle.slashdot.org/story...

    2. Re:I got 4 of them. by ugen · · Score: 5, Funny

      You need to set your microwave to "fruit" option to charge it.

    3. Re:I got 4 of them. by geekmux · · Score: 3, Funny

      You need to set your microwave to "fruit" option to charge it.

      Hey, I don't see a frui...son of a bitch, I knew that bastard was lying about my microwave being iOS8 ready.

      Damn, I wonder how long I'm gonna have to wait for that firmware update...

    4. Re:I got 4 of them. by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      What I'm waiting to hear about is someone complaining to their microwave company that it destroyed his/her iPhone.

  5. Apple sheeple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ....something something... walled garden...something something... stroke my neckbeard.

    1. Re:Apple sheeple... by Buchenskjoll · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on, let's get rid of the Apple sheeple name calling. Let's call them Applemmings...

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  6. Re:Android sells one and Half Billion every day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We're what, 9 billion people on this Earth and closest part of space and you want us to belive that 1 billion Android devices are sold every day?

  7. How many are new Apple customers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most of the new iPhones seem to be going to existing iPhone users. Trading in old phones after the contract expires brings in some new money for Apple without increasing market share.

    1. Re:How many are new Apple customers? by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      That's not a terribly meaningful observation. Early adopters are always going to be the people most enthusiastic about the company, and in this case, that's far more likely to be people that already own iPhones.

      I just got a new iPhone 6 myself because I've been using an iPhone 4 since release, and it was important to me to keep my device on the latest OS. That's not terribly remarkable.

  8. Re:Android sells one and Half Billion every day by ugen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In other news Hyundai outsells BMW 4 to 1. To each his own.

  9. Misattributed to P.T. Barnum by Chas · · Score: 1, Troll

    There's a sucker born every minute.
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    3 days

    3x24=72 hours

    72x60=4320 minutes

    10,000,000/4320=2314.814814814815 suckers/minute

    M2PTB was a pessimist.

    By this mechanic, there are 38.58024691358025 suckers/second ( or about 3.858024691358025 suckers/decisecond).

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    1. Re:Misattributed to P.T. Barnum by praxis · · Score: 1

      Way to confuse a birth with a purchase.

    2. Re:Misattributed to P.T. Barnum by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      re: Barnum misquote... http://www.historybuff.com/lib...

    3. Re:Misattributed to P.T. Barnum by StripedCow · · Score: 1

      Here's to the suckers.
      The misfits.
      The rebels.
      The troublemakers.
      The round pegs in the square holes.
      The ones who see things differently.
      etcetera

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    4. Re:Misattributed to P.T. Barnum by xepel · · Score: 1

      Your abuse of significant digits is making statisticians cry. :(

    5. Re:Misattributed to P.T. Barnum by Chas · · Score: 1

      Wow.

      From a +5, Funny to -1, Troll. All for a joke.

      I take it I chapped SOMEONE'S ass.

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  10. 10 Million? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    let's hope they don't have any bugs in those phones, or they'll have to replace them all.

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    1. Re:10 Million? by edxwelch · · Score: 1

      I heard the microwave charging doesn't work too well

    2. Re:10 Million? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

      Don't believe everything you hear online. Try it for yourself to be sure.

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  11. Re:Android sells one and Half Billion every day by pherthyl · · Score: 1

    Which idiot voted this nonsense up? Obviously there aren't 1.5 billion android phones sold per day, and Apple shares are not dropping, in fact they have been on an upward trend in the last 6 months.

  12. Billions and billions by mveloso · · Score: 1

    Android phones now account for 823 phones out of every phone sold. That's progress!

  13. Re:Android sells one and Half Billion every day by nine-times · · Score: 5, Funny

    We're what, 9 billion people on this Earth and closest part of space and you want us to belive that 1 billion Android devices are sold every day?

    Actually it's more like 7 billion (I think 6.9?) people on Earth, and he's saying that 1.5 billion Android phones are sold every day. I had no idea, but that's pretty impressive.

  14. Re:Android sells one and Half Billion every day by easyTree · · Score: 1

    How do they score on the ratio of iPhones sold to factory-worker suicides?

  15. Re:Lemmings by DougOtto · · Score: 2

    Yet, in the same paragraph, you call people lemmings because of their choice of device.

    Hypocrit much?

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  16. Judge not lest ye be judged.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would say that most of the people I know use iPhones. I have never heard any one of those iPhone users judging an Android phone user as an inferior person, less successful, or not as hip. I have, however, consistently hear all the usual judgements from Android users against iPhones users: lemmings, idiots with too much money, Steve Jobs worshippers, etc.

    1. Re:Judge not lest ye be judged.... by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would say that most of the people I know use iPhones. I have never heard any one of those iPhone users judging an Android phone user as an inferior person, less successful, or not as hip. I have, however, consistently hear all the usual judgements from Android users against iPhones users: lemmings, idiots with too much money, Steve Jobs worshippers, etc.

      That is true for the most part and going out on a limb here, the most obnoxiously judgemental computer users I meet are usualy Linux geeks. I have met very, very few OS X or Windows users who go out of their way to heap scorn on Linux users the way some Linux do about Windows and Mac users.

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  17. Apple is like a posh handbag by tuppe666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In other news Hyundai outsells BMW 4 to 1. To each his own.

    I am not sure if Apple is Like BMW with small memory, and storage, and screen resolution and battery..without features like waterproofing...maybe a smart car?

    But one thing is for certain is that whatever make Apple is Android is Ferrari, Mercedes Benz, Ford Toyota, Royals Royce etc etc

    1. Re:Apple is like a posh handbag by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Insightful

      iPhone is a product, android is an industry.

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    2. Re:Apple is like a posh handbag by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      There are only a few decent Android phones and then there is the junk market which makes up the bulk. I've got a S2 and a Note 3 from Samsung and both are well made good phones. They don't have quite the style that the iPhone has but I like them and they have the one thing I wanted that Apple's products lack, an SD card slot. Still the iPhones are very slick and well designed phones. I have a lot of friends that own them and none of them seem all that concerned about the lack of memory in the latest iPhone models. Interestingly the benchmark comparisons show that despite seemingly lower specs the iPhone6 models do very well, in may cases exceeding the performance of the S5. My Note 3 has 3GB of RAM but due to all the shit Samsung and AT&T have stuck on the phone it only has about 1GB free. Why do Android manufacturers insist on crippling their phones with crap? At least I can wipe it and install a mod on it to make it work like it was supposed to.

    3. Re:Apple is like a posh handbag by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      iPhone is a product, android is an industry.

      Which is why boasting that Android is outselling iPhones is a bit like pointing out that the entire rest of the car industry is outselling BMW and therefore BMW must suck.

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    4. Re:Apple is like a posh handbag by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      iPhone is a product, and Android is a product, just part of two different industries.
      Phones are an industry, and operating systems are an industry.

    5. Re: Apple is like a posh handbag by ckhorne · · Score: 1

      Uhh- none of this is true. The BMW part, the Hyundai part, or the iPhone part. Since the original iOS release. If you're going to try to make a rant against an iPhone analogy, at least learn enough to speak intelligently.

    6. Re:Apple is like a posh handbag by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      More like: iPhone is a product, as Galaxy is a product.

    7. Re:Apple is like a posh handbag by TuxThePenguin2205 · · Score: 1

      "My Note 3 has 3GB of RAM but due to all the shit Samsung and AT&T have stuck on the phone it only has about 1GB free." I Cant speak about AT+T firmware. But the Note 3 in UK (EE) a lot of the Samsung Apps aren't installed by default and only install if you select them from the app menu and others can be disabled ( which also un-installs any updates ). This is much better than the S3 which I rooted almost immediately to free space and remove apps. Also as the linux kernel is in use and it (rightly) tries to use all the RAM all the time. Apps you have closed may be cached etc. I think your complaint may be misguided to a degree. Though the bloatware and carrier restrictions seem much worse across the board in the US.

    8. Re:Apple is like a posh handbag by robbyb20 · · Score: 1

      Exactly

      How about we compare iOS to Android instead. I would be interested in seeing those numbers.

  18. How are buybacks 'market shenanigans'? by Brannon · · Score: 1

    where do you think the money came from that they are using to buy stock back?

  19. Definations by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    iPhone is a product, android is an industry.

    Know they are both products, just on the iPhone...iOS...the OS is a Unique Selling Point, and it used to be a pretty good one. As opposed to Android sold at Zero cost to Manufactures of Phones, for collecting the revenue from Advertising and the revenue from the Play store.

    You can only argue which has the better model(Short term profits vs Long term Market share), I personally think Androids is better long term.

    Spin somewhere else

    1. Re:Definations by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Android works better on some phones than others. This is why a lot of people buy iPhones after having an Android phone. They bought a cheap shitty phone from some half ass manufacturer and then had nothing but trouble. Now they believe it's Android that's the problem when it's the phone's maker. Their next phone is often an iPhone and of course only Apple makes iPhones.

    2. Re: Definations by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      You can only argue which has the better model(Short term profits vs Long term Market share), I personally think Androids is better long term.

      Right because chasing after market share by selling lots of low profit margin products seems to be working as well for the Android OEMs as it did for PC manufacturers.

      Even Samsung is reporting lower revenues and profits and that use to be Android's shining star.

    3. Re:Definations by exomondo · · Score: 1

      As opposed to Android sold at Zero cost to Manufactures of Phones

      That's a pretty naive view, sure you could get it at no cost when it is released as open source after the first handsets have shipped but for the ability to be competitive it is pretty much essential to be a paying member of the Open Handset Alliance which HTC, Sony, LG, Motorola, Samsung, Huawei, Asus, ZTE and many others are.

  20. That is...impressive. by Brannon · · Score: 1

    nt

  21. Re:Lemmings by SumDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Beats Audio Headphones

    I am an Android user, but I will say the iPhone isn't beats. It's actually a decent piece of hardware and software. I don't particularaly like iOS and will stick to my Android, but it's also not horrible and a lot of people develop for it. I'm also glad we have both options, plus Windows Mobile too. More options are better for the market and people who write apps for only one OS are idiots.

    It's still half of beats though. There are a lot of people who buy eyeProducts because of the marketing. I liked OSX 10.6, but everything since than has been shit. Final Cut X is god awful. There are pros and cons to everything.

  22. Excellent point. Android users are the snobs. by Brannon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    iPhone users, by and large, couldn't care less what kind of phone you use. The world needs more options and fewer snobs.

    1. Re:Excellent point. Android users are the snobs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are you kidding? The iPhone is a fashion accessory to many, and not having one is the equivalent of not wearing Prada when all the cool kids are. It's the hipster clique phone, for people who think different and are not part of the herd.

      LOL, sorry, but no. The very original iPhone had some prestige factor to it, but they haven't been "fashion accessories" for a very long time. Prada wouldn't be Prada if you could buy it at Walmart. iPhones have been relatively cheap since the 3G version, and if you paid more for an expensive large capacity edition, there was no way for an onlooker to tell. Far, far, far too many people have iPhones for them to be considered any sort of status symbol. Your description, however, is possibly an Android user's perception of an iPhone user, and would neatly explain most of the unwarranted angst towards them.

  23. Re:They sold 10 million units of last years tech? by sribe · · Score: 1

    It's amazing the iPhone sells, it's old technology outfitted with pointless style...

    What exactly is old technology? Take a moment, think about your answer ;-)

  24. Re:individual vs carrier sales. by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wonder how many of those phones went to carriers and counted as 'First day sales'? How many actual _humans_ bought phones?

    Since Apple reports sales to end users, approximately 0 and 10,000,000, respectively.

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  25. Re:Hype, more hype, blah by praxis · · Score: 1

    If "Android" sells 10M phones per day, that's 3.6 billion phone a year. Do you have some sort of actual data to back up that claim?

  26. Shipped figures vs Sale figures by tuppe666 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Apple always reports actual sales

    No...no...nope from a random 10K..."Product is considered delivered to the customer once it has been shipped and title and risk of loss have been transferred. For most of the Company’s product sales, these criteria are met at the time the product is shipped. For online sales to individuals, for some sales to education customers in the U.S., and for certain other sales, the Company defers recognition of revenue until the customer receives the product because the Company retains a portion of the risk of loss on these sales during transit."

    So measure like every other company.

    1. Re:Shipped figures vs Sale figures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Samsung does not sell phones directly to the end user. Their customers are the retailers (including the carriers), which take title and assume risk of loss for the phones. Any phones which are shipped into the channel count as a sale for Samsung.

    2. Re:Shipped figures vs Sale figures by symbolset · · Score: 1

      This channel stuffing nonsense needs to stop. Nobody is buying phones to throw away. They get sold. After five years of this nonsense it is just tedious.

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    3. Re:Shipped figures vs Sale figures by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Except that unlike every other company, Apple has retail stores where they can report direct sales numbers. Also since the iPhone 6 demand is high right now, shipped == sold. It's the same as when the Nintendo Wii first came out.

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  27. "birth" Oi vey, no "ingles" by Chas · · Score: 1

    In the context of the quote "birth" isn't talking about childbirth. It's talking about the idea of inception as a classification (in this case, a "sucker").

    Simple English 101 here.

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  28. Android Beats Apple Again by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    I am an Android user

    Me too, and I think that the fact that I have a 5.5" Phone in my pocked that cost a third the price of the iPhone, and in every way is better. Screams otherwise. I like my music Bass heavy and headphones to look good...like my phone, hell I could use the money I save by not buying an Apple.

    1. Re:Android Beats Apple Again by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I really doubt your Android is better than the iPhone in every way. It may well be better in every way you care about.

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  29. Re: So many idiots... by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

    They have to do with the fact they are laughing at all the I-sheep .

    Enjoy throwing away your android phone once a new one comes out with an incremental improvement because you are not going to have anyone wanting to buy your used Android. iPhones, however, retain a great deal of resale value.

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  30. Re:They sold 10 million units of last years tech? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    64 bit ARM was last year's tech :)

    Oh, wait... Poor Android fans...

    (Yes, there's nothing magical about doubling the CPU's data paths, but doing so also gives you a convenient excuse to also throw out all of the garbage in the 32bit ISA; or at least, not require it on 64 bit applications).

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  31. The real Question is by denisbergeron · · Score: 1

    how much has been buy by dumb that Wave their iphone trying to charge them ?

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  32. Re:They sold 10 million units of last years tech? by denisbergeron · · Score: 1

    http://versus.com/en/apple-iph...
    2 years old tech in fact.

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  33. Re:Android sells one and Half Billion every day by ksheff · · Score: 1

    The carriers drop support for them a month or two later, so people need to keep buying a new one to make sure they're up to date. ;)

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  34. Re: So many idiots... by hondo77 · · Score: 1

    Given that Android allegedly makes up 78% of the smartphone market, I can see why you feel soooo unique.

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  35. Re:They sold 10 million units of last years tech? by sribe · · Score: 1

    Uhm, a link to a 2-year old iPhone 5 says absolutely NOTHING about the iPhone 6. Care to try again???

  36. Re:Android sells one and Half Billion every day by santiago · · Score: 1

    Actually it's more like 7 billion (I think 6.9?) people on Earth, and he's saying that 1.5 billion Android phones are sold every day. I had no idea, but that's pretty impressive.

    It just shows how quickly they stop supporting OS updates for most of those Android phones.

  37. Re:individual vs carrier sales. by Ixokai · · Score: 1

    All of them. Apple always reports actual end-user sales, not channel movement.

  38. So? by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    Most Android phone sales would also be going to owners of existing Android phones, so WYP?

  39. Re: So many idiots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why exactly should I be throwing away my phone when it still outperforms your current release?

  40. Re:They sold 10 million units of last years tech? by exomondo · · Score: 1

    At a guess I'd say he's referring to the iPhone 5C which is still on sale and is essentially the technology of the iPhone 5. Which I can only see as a glowing endorsement for the efficiency of iOS in how it manages to still run so smoothly even on older hardware.

  41. Re:Android sells one and Half Billion every day by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Well then, Apple should be applauded. In the context of their extremely reasonable pricing (considering the cutting edge nature of their products compared to those of competitors and the significant costs incurred by manufacturing overseas), it's a testament to their fairness that their (indirect) staff are not driven past the point at which manufacturing rate would be negatively impacted by their staff's reluctance to continue living.

  42. Re:Android sells one and Half Billion every day by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

    How do they score on the ratio of iPhones sold to factory-worker suicides?

    The number of suicides at Foxconn, which has about 1.2 million employees, was (2) and (1) in the last two years, according to Wikipedia. The USA has about 45,000 suicides per year; at that rate Foxconn should have had about 180 per year.

    Compared to the number of people dying from leukaemia at Samsung factories, they are doing quite well.

  43. More than Microsoft by sproketboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    More than Microsoft sold in it's whole history!

  44. Re:They sold 10 million units of last years tech? by sribe · · Score: 1

    At a guess I'd say he's referring to the iPhone 5C which is still on sale and is essentially the technology of the iPhone 5.

    Perhaps. But given the context and his exact words, he was obviously implying that the iPhone 6 is the old technology he was referring to. Then when challenged, he just posted a link to an iPhone 5, without clarification. So, yes, the 5C is 2-year old tech, and yes, Murdoch5 is dishonest ;-)

    Which I can only see as a glowing endorsement for the efficiency of iOS in how it manages to still run so smoothly even on older hardware.

    Agreed.

  45. Re:Apple repeated Myth No #1078 by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

    Apple NEVER has used sold it has always stated that it counts them as sold because if only ships what it know it will sell. Always has check its the investment part of its site. It is actually more hilarious as Apple has to *cough* adjust its iPad figures after what was excused as changes in supply chain. We know see it is as Apple simply failing to sell iPads.

    tupe666 repeated myth No #1234: Shipped never means sold in any circumstances. Lalalalala.

    Even if we believe all of your points, you do realize that iPhone 6s are in short supply everywhere right now? So by logic, shipped == sold right now. In a few quarters, shipped may not be sold. However in your points, you fail to realize or acknowledge Apple has retail stores. They can know exactly what is being sold in their own stores. Apple also has an online presence. It can know what has been sold online through Apple.com.

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  46. Re:Apple repeated Myth No #1078 by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

    There's also a slight difference between what's legal in a press release and what's legal in SEC filings. In SEC filings, Apple would have reduce its revenue slightly to account for phones that are sold but returned, or phones that are sold but Apple never gets payment. Things like phones4U in the UK going out of business.

  47. Re:"birth" Oi vey, no "ingles" by praxis · · Score: 1

    English being my second language, I went to my dictionary with the hopes of learning something from your comment. Unfortunately, my dictionary only lists two entries for birth the verb:

    1. intr. To have birth, be born. rare.
    2. trans. To give birth to; to give rise to. Chiefly dial. and U.S. dial.

    Do you mean give rise to?

    Also, I don't find using words metaphorically to be "simple" English 101, or your 101 classes are rather advanced.

  48. Re:Android sells one and Half Billion every day by easyTree · · Score: 1

    In 2010, a group of eighteen attempted suicide together with fourteen successes. Since then they've taken measures to contractually oblige employees to continue living and installed anti-suicide nets to catch (pun intended) those who aren't swayed by contractual terms.

    These conditions make your quoted figures somewhat artificial.

  49. 10 million, huh? by slick7 · · Score: 1

    Lemmings.

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