Ebola Has Made It To the United States
An anonymous reader sends news that the CDC has confirmed the first case of Ebola diagnosed on U.S. soil.
An unnamed patient at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital of Dallas was placed in isolation while awaiting test results for the dreaded virus. Apparently, the patient had traveled recently to a West African country, where the disease is spreading, and later developed symptoms that suggested Ebola. A blood specimen from the patient was sent to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, a testing process that can take 24 to 48 hours to confirm an Ebola infection — or not. The results came back about 3:32 p.m.
In other Ebola news, outbreaks in Nigeria and Senegal appear to be completely contained.
'Nuff said, yo!
Then how the hell did it end up in Texas?
... crack each others heads open and feast on the goo inside?
Lets see, even though this is one case, we have a plane that carried the person here, we have all the other passenger and flight attendants who were on the plane with that passenger for 8-10 hours, we have the passengers who sat in plane in subsequent flights (using the same bathroom, and seat that known infected and possibly infected people used), and we have the close contacts to all those people (family/friends). While I do not believe it is contagious, immediately, all those people need to be contacted and put in isolation for 21 days.
We were all warned a long time ago that MS products sucked, remember the Magic 8 Ball said, "Outlook not so good"
Best solution right now is to panic and start looting. Mostly because looting looks fun and angry mobs make for good tv
Time to cut off texas from the rest of the US... oh wait they've been working on that for us for years.
When I recall how many americans don't believe darwin and don't trust science, its likely they will hide their sick at home, just like in africa.
another Gomerism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
I mean why would anyone travel to west Africa at this point? Curiosity?
And now you will see some actual effort from the CDC. They threw that Nov. vaccine estimate out there to keep people quiet, so it's time to nut up.
Oh of course the first case is in Texas. It's okay though it's Dallas. Tell me when it gets to Houston.
Isn't there some sort of quarantine in effect or are we just letting people fly back and forth between Ebola outbreak areas all willy-nilly?
This is no joke. Due to the incompetence at the CDC and US government, this unnamed traveler may have exposed dozens of people, including family, those working in the emergency room or there for care as well as his doctors. There is no excuse for not banning all but medical humanitarian travel to the affected countries and quarantining those returning for 4 weeks. You can bet your butt that is China's policy. We may be able to keep a lid on it, but why we are risking the general population is beyond me.
As for you fools making light of the situation, up until about 250 years ago, life for all was short and brutal. In the modern world, we have pulled our quality of living up, not pushed the quality of life of others down. We do try to share and help other cultures with varying degrees of success, but it is NOT our fault that others around the world live in squalor. Most of the time it is due to an ass backward culture and/or ideology and if you actually knew history instead of being brainwashed by whatever school you went to, you would know that. The fact is, if America goes down, the rest of the world will be living under Russian rule or Chinese rule, period.
Maybe people have pointed out that Ebola is not very contagious and is spread through direct contact with bodily fluids. However, the Ebola Reston strain is airborne though only dangerous to monkeys.
The current strain in Liberia and other places is Ebola Zaire, and is not airborne, but there is nothing preventing its mutation into something that is more contagious like Reston, so we should be cautious.
"What lies behind us, and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson
Deploy the troops! Boots on the ground against Ebola.
From what I read it will be necessary to monitor the DIRECT contacts with the sick person, not "the close contacts to all those people", because the close contacts have not yet had time to start having symptoms and become contagious.
So it's a planeload of people, and other people who used that plane.
--PM
rabies virus, it could result in the infected person becoming insane and attacking everyone that he sees. But unlike regular rabies, you don't have to get bitten to become infected... Ebola can be transmitted simply by touching someone. This could result in extremely rapid disease transmission, perhaps triggering a worldwide pandemic.
If this happens, millions of Resident Evil fans all over the world will be writhing on the floor in full nerdgasm.
None of that matters at all. It takes but a simple Google search to realize that it cannot be spread by any of the scenarios you have identified.
Good thing the border is wide open to T.B., scabies, and now Ebola.
USA! USA!
http://www.theonion.com/articles/experts-ebola-vaccine-at-least-50-white-people-awa,36580/
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"The best means of prevention are similar to those you would practice to prevent the common cold or the flu, and it starts at your bathroom sink. Thoroughly washing your hands, and practicing good hygiene with soap and water, is a good first step to preventing infection."
The early signs and symptoms of the Ebola virus include:
Symptoms may become increasingly severe over time, the Mayo Clinic said, with additional symptoms present, including:
Be careful, but not frightened.
If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
There was an outbreak of a mutated form of the Ebola virus in Reston, VA in 1989. Humans were not susceptible, thank god, just the lab monkeys which had been imported from Africa, : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...
I'm crafting a dirt house and I have some chickens saved up...
Totally fine.
SHUT.DOWN.EVERYTHING
Good news: after running extensive realistic experiments using the well known disease simulator plague, inc. I can conclude that the probaility that ebola will successfully annihilate humanity is quite low (because it didnt spread first and then ramped up the mortality which seemes to be one of the only really winning strategies)! The bad news is that now might be a good idea to move to Greenland since it could still destroy everything else :(
in 3 2 1 ...
...it's the only way to be sure.
Left MS Windows for Linux Mint and never looked back!
Vote for Bernie in 2016!
For Population reduction.
"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller.
And yet sheep trust this extremely corrupt entity called the CDC, created and ran covertly by the Rockefellers. They are the ones directly responsible for brining Ebola into the United States.
Ask yourself, how did Ebola even Arrive in the USA? And end up in Dallas TX of all places?
Can't wait for this revolution.
You're ... you're actively showing symptoms, and ... you ... get it on someone else. It's ... going to chase down an uninfected person like a tiger on Nat Geo or magically float thru the walls like a ghost.
"... it starts at your bathroom sink. Thoroughly washing your hands, ... with soap and water, is a good first step to ... infection."
The ... signs and symptoms of the Ebola virus include:
Be ... frightened.
Haven't figured out how to get around that post frequency limiter, have you trollerskater?
Is the end of humanity due to the Ebola virus an acceptable excuse for adultery?
Asking for a friend.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Actually, BOTH !!
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
... only 49 more white people to go before a cure is found! ;P
Can't you just keel over and die already? It would make a lot of Americans tickled pink.
" outbreaks in Nigeria and Senegal appear to be completely contained."
Guess that means everyone who has had it is dead.
It looks like Ebola-chan hasn't answered /pol/'s prayers.
Call Gabriel Cunningham of Resurgam First Care. I have a hunch it's viral haemorrhagic fever.
Hey buddy want your family taken care of for the rest of their life?
Just bring back this here ebola to the States
??? zombies
Profit!
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
This is it folks, it's only gonna spread further from there. From idiots who go to infected countries and come back with it.
Early symptoms of Ebola are "flu-like" and it is contagious during these "flu-like" symptoms. Now ... consider the fact that flu season is upon us. But you know what's _really_ frightening about this? Not one of the goddamn idiot "authorities" has even mentioned, let alone assessed, this confounding situation's impact on public health containment measures.
Now THAT'S frightening!
Read the CDC's guidelines on monitoring and movement of persons with "exposure" and tell me their guidelines work for a country in the throes of massive incidence of "flu-like symptoms".
While reading this wisdom from on high, imagine there is, in this multi-"culture"al heaven that is the US nowadays, a "community" somewhere with strong identity, Hollywood-fired resentment of the US's white-supremacist history of slavery and colonial exploitation with corresponding suspicion of its public health measures (just look at the murders of public health workers in West Africa -- and many of those health workers weren't even "white-devils"), strong relations in West Africa and -- to top it all off -- a flu season that has a good percentage of its community exhibiting the early stage symptoms of Ebola...
Seastead this.
When someone makes a prediction based on events and it comes true.
Example: fly an infected person to a densely populated place and expose people not infected to him, those uninfected will eventually be contaminated and the pathogen will go feral.
Called it.
Political debates have me rolling my eyes so much I think I got optical whiplash. I should sue. - Foamy The Squirrel
So consider a plane with some passengers that have a cold or flu (happens all the time) and mix it with an Ebola carrier. Would this not make the plane a Petri dish for making an airborne variant of Ebola virus?
Just consider how easy it would be to share bodily fluids via the bathroom on a trans-Atlantic flight. Also consider how passengers are squished together tighter than sardines these days.
Can anyone advise why I should not be terrified to be on the same plane with an Ebola carrier regardless of assurances by medical officials that it is not that contagious.
"Apparently, the patient had traveled recently to a West African country..."
So in other words, Darwin is hard at work trying to clean the pee out of the shallow end of the gene pool.
Ron White was correct: Stupid... is forever.
So he shouldn't have been contagious while flying. You may not return to your panicking.
CAPTCHA: afraid
Isn't there Ebola in the south west. I could have sworn people getting sick by infected animals in the region with something. It was mainly isolated towns or reservations tho.
Ebola is only a real problem in Third World communities where ignorance and superstition rule, and health care is reserved only for the wealthy.
Oh...um...sorry about that. RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY SCREAMING!!!
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
Wash your damn hands. Liberia: Implements curfews and martial law. Ebola spreads. Sierra Leone: Implements hand washing stations. Ebola under control. United States: Incredibly clean by comparison to either. Take your fear-mongering elsewhere.
Don't worry folks. Ebola only spread so fast in those other countries because they were primitive and superstitious. Because of that, they believed that the very people trying to help them were there to hurt them... Oh... SHIT!!!
there is nothing preventing its mutation into something that is more contagious
Let's hope the player doesn't have enough DNA points for that!
are the Rahm Emanuel's of the world. I can't help feeling, ever since this started getting a lot of attention, that entry of Ebola into the USA was a fully planned consequence of our intentional complete inaction.
now US will be haunted by the virus they made to test on africans. probably CIA funded
I am disappoint.
According to this article...
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10... ... the guy walked around the US infected with Ebola for **9 DAYS** before he was isolated.
Astonishingly he was SENT HOME when he first presented himself to a medical practitioner exhibiting symptoms of the virus.
The guy was visiting relatives in the United States, which implies he lives in Liberia, which implies he was probably easily identifiable as a foreigner. What sort of incompetent doctor sends someone home who has an accent African accent and is exhibiting ebola symptoms. Wouldn't you at least ask "have you traveled recently" ?
If he saw an incompetent doctor what other precautions did this doctor not take?
If you know the exact methods with which Ebola spreads, you would know that it would never, ever spread in the US. We're too civilized and have too good of an infrastructure mixed with the people being too intelligent. It's practically an STD. All you need to do to not catch Ebola is not kiss or have sex or get blood on you from someone who's infected. That's it! Oh, and don't handle their bodies with your bare hands. Oh, and maybe don't break into a quarantine zone and fucking free all the damn infected people. There isn't a terribly long incubation period either for ebola. Ask any doctor about the golden rule. Not airborne, not a problem. If it can live on surfaces, places can close, people can wash their hands, and you can alcohol the hell out of everything everywhere constantly for cheap.
It's really a shame Nigeria wasn't wiped out though. Pirates and scammers and their corrupt governments would be wiped out and their society could start over without all those problems. 50 years later they'd have a better economy than the last 100 years.
... more like.
Imagine if the USA was an all WHITE country. How terrible and 'racist' that would be!
Don't you know that every white country on Earth has to open its borders so that all the poor non-whites can come and live around 'whitey', and benefit from the (apparently) superior countries which white people create? Otherwise WHY ARE THEY COMING HERE?
America needs a good plague. Kill them all.
When the numbers of deaths hit the hundreds of thousands the wealthy will flee Africa and take the virus with them to the rest of the world. Trying to control them will not work as Africa is very corrupt, not even guns will stop them because they will just overrun the soldiers, or the rich will manipulate the poor to do so then slip through the holes in the cordons that the riots create. Shutting down the air links will help for a while but people will go overland and by sea too, into Europe and the Middle East. Only the levels of enforcement the Chinese used for SARS will be effective.
We're first bitches! Shit if you're sick, Dallas has like a billion hospitals and new ones going up where we don't need any. The Healthcare economy is going to love Ebola!
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
As I wrote here: http://www.pdfernhout.net/basi...
"Right now, a profit driven health care system has sized emergency rooms for average needs, and those emergency rooms are often full. With a basic income and more money going on a systematic basis to the health care system, the health care system emergency rooms will no longer be overrun with people there for reasons they could see a doctor for. So, emergency care would be better for millionaires. Millionaires with heart attacks won't be as likely to end up being diverted to far away hospitals because the local hospital emergency room is full. Likewise, emergency rooms might, with more money going to medicine, become sized for national emergencies, not personal emergencies, so they might become vast empty places, with physicians and other health care staff keeping their skills sharp always running simulations, learning more medical information, and/or doing basic medical research, with these people always ready for a pandemic or natural disaster or industrial accident which they had the resources in reserve to deal with. So, millionaires who got sick or injured in a disaster could be sure there was the facilities and expertise nearby to help them, even if most of the rest of the population needed help too at the same time too. In that way, some of this basic income could be funded by money that might otherwise go to the Defense department, because what is better civil defense then investing in a health care system able to to handle national disasters? So, any millionaires who are doctors (many are) would benefit by this plan, because their lives as doctors will become happier and less stressful, both with less paperwork and with more resources."
Maybe someday...
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
Today show headline... "EBOLA IS HERE!!!"
Boogie boogie boogie
Thank you Ebola-Chan!
Depending on which news network you check depends on what you are told... At this point I feel the major news media is covering up the fact he was contagious since Wednesday of last week by either saying his symptoms started later or that he has been in the hospital since Sunday.
The person arrived here on the 20th. I have read some articles saying he started showing symptoms on Wednesday Sept 24th and that he went to the Hospital (the same hospital that has been readying itself to handle Ebola) he was then sent home with Antibiotics. He then came back several days later VIA ambulance because his condition worsened.
“After arriving in the U.S. on Sept. 20, the man began to develop symptoms last Wednesday and initially sought care two days later. But he was released. At the time, hospital officials did not know he had been in West Africa. He returned later as his condition worsened.”
http://www.stripes.com/news/us...
Failure 1: They never asked him and he never divulged he was from Liberia?
Failure 2: They misdiagnosed the issue as a common cold or bacteria infection.
Failure 3: will they really be able to trace everyone if he went somewhere in public while showing symptoms (he must have gone somewhere to get the antibiotic prescription filled, how many people in CVS, Rite-Aid etc. got exposed?)
Failure 4: They are assuming he will divulge even people who may be here illegally living with his friends or family. Most likely these people will not seek medical treatment nor be reported for fear of deportation they may finally report to the hospital when critically ill but in the interim they are an exposure risk to the general public.
Failure 5: The hospital was not using any Tyvex suits, booties, face masks, etc when treating this patient on Friday. They were using no EBOLA precautions. This article from the New York Times also contradicts completely the BS being spread through NBC news that just washing your hands will prevent contracting Ebola. Two problems with that are that washing your hands will not stop ebola if you came in contact with infected fluids or someone with ebola you can’t just wash it off. Secondly this study here proves americans do not wash their hands enough
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/s...
Here is the CDC recommendations to the hospitals which this hospital DID NOT FOLLOW until the patient came back
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/p...
The CDC list was revised after the doctors below spoke out about the initial precautions CDC recommended which were gloves and paper mask!
“But Dr. Michael V. Callahan, an infectious disease specialist at Massachusetts General Hospital who has worked in Africa during Ebola outbreaks, does not think it is wrong for hospitals to opt for more protective equipment.
The minimal precautions recommended by the C.D.C. “led to the infection of my nurses and physician co-workers who came in contact with body fluids,” Dr. Callahan said. “I understand the desire to maintain absolute protection in U.S. hospitals.”
Dr. Justin Fairless, an emergency physician in Tulsa, Okla., said that health care workers in Africa “are wearing the highest level of protection, but the C.D.C. recommendation lets us go down to the lowest level of protection.”
Dr. Fairless is considering buying his own air-purifying respirator to pair with a head-to-toe coverall. “I am not comfortable going to see an Ebola patient wearing a paper mask that doesn’t cover my entire face,”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08...
After the article CDC recently revised their recommendations to this:
However, the Ebola Reston strain is airborne though only dangerous to monkeys.
I have oftten wondered whether the Reston virus had mutated to be spread by things like sneezes, or if it might be another matter entirely.
A number of monkey species throw feces (and/or other bodily secretions) when under stress and perceived attack. (I don't know if this is one of them, but assume for the moment it is.) Might being confined to cages along with others provoke such behavior? Wouldn't a sick monkey's feces, and tiny particles separated by airflow during the flight, carry an ebola-family virus just fine, without any mutation to make it, say, shed into nasal mucus and be carried by a sneeze?
(Granted this might fit the literal definition of "airborne transmission". B-) )
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And so it starts exactly as I predicted here: He went to the emergency room with flu like symptoms and they ... wait for it .... SENT HIM HOME.
Seastead this.
SARS was scary, more so than Ebola because it was airborne. If they can contain SARS they *should* be able to contain Ebola. I think the fear though that it will reach some critical mass in a population where the only way is to let it burn itself out. It's there in the Western African countries and could get there in say India or Brazil or perhaps some areas of the US perhaps.
I apologize in advance for being off my meds, and cowering under my tin foil hat.
I have been witness too many times to governments and others spreading everything from the truth, to plausible fiction, to outright lies in support of the view they want to ensure that people have.
Everything I've head about so far sets off my allergies to such behavior. All of the current reassurances are making me less comfortable rather than more. It makes me think 'what don't they want us to know'.
Lastly, what if the infected person they know about picked it up on the plane from someone who WAS contagious at that time? What if the screening for fever missed someone?
I certainly hope that everything IS how they are making it seem, and that we are all safe. But I will remain concerned, and begin looking at models of disease spread, and perhaps even stockpile some food and water. I hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't want to be wrong about being wrong.
Why has no one blocked flights in and out of Africa!?!?
Damn... Maybe I should run for president.
Antivirals resistance lvl IV
Go Ebola-chan!
AIUI it is only strongly suspected that Ebola Reston is transmissible via aerosol, not definitely proven.
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It will be easier in the US to get the 50 white people needed for the cure (http://www.theonion.com/articles/experts-ebola-vaccine-at-least-50-white-people-awa,36580/)
What has me worried is that there are a number of states who have refused federal healthcare funding for low-income patients. As a result, those patients will turn to the emergency room which is possibly the worst place to deliver the kind of attentive care needed to diagnose Ebola. Texas is one of the states who refused to participate in giving low income people access to affordable care.