'Star Wars: Episode VII' Gets a Name
schwit1 writes If you feel a disturbance in the Force, it's millions of voices suddenly crying out the new title of Star Wars: Episode VII — The Force Awakens. The reveal comes as the movie finishes its final day of shooting (with many more months of post-production to come.) Although there were still a few days left of shooting, the cast of the J.J. Abrams film already celebrated their wrap party last weekend, following a bumpy few months of principal photography thrown into crisis when Han Solo himself, Harrison Ford, broke his leg on set in an accident involving a falling door on the Millennium Falcon.
I wasn't interested in seeing J.J. Abrams skullfuck Star Trek; if you think I'm going to watch him do it to Star Wars as well, you're sorely mistaken.
Not even mentioning the name. After midi-chlorians...the Force is already awake...just no.
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I like the name; I think it's good. The most interesting part of star wars is the force (and the jedi, as the primary force users). Suggesting that the force is central to the story by naming it in the title gives me hope.
Well, it was supposed to be kind of an old wreck back in Episode IV, I guess by now it is a wonder it is flying at all...
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Here's what I expect, in so specific order.
1.) Lens flares, so you can't see what's happening clearly!
2.) Shaky cam, so you can't focus on anything happening!
3.) Ultra-close-up action, so you don't know who is doing what in fights!
4.) Previously known characters acting against their established personalities, for no good reason, and against all reason in general.
5.) Teal and orange! In every scene, teal and orange will provide the color contrast.
6.) C-3PO and R2-D2 will appear for some stupid fucking reasons and tie into the mythos in even more unlikely and retarded ways.
this takes me back to /. during the 90's.
Sooo who are we pouring hot grits on now?
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After the terrible new trilogy, I'm cautiously excited by the new movie written by Lawrence Kasdan, who had zero involvement with the episodes 1-4, but did write such films as The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
They'll be plenty of eye candy (to be sure -- so did the originals!), but maybe having a good writer (who made almost all the Star Wars films you love -- and none of the ones you hate) means you'll have a good story?
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I recall distinctly, back in the seventies, when the original Star Wars was really taking off, there was discussion that Lucas had envisioned nine movies total, in the order of 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9. This ordering was the result of the decision to start in "the middle of the story" to get viewers immediately into the action, and then backfill later.
Many years later, I think when TPM was being planned, Lucas disavowed any concept of 9 films, insisting he only ever planned 6. But now we're back to nine. Go figure.
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We milk the cash cow...oh, and Force Force something.
That's the next movie's title.
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Many years later, I think when TPM was being planned, Lucas disavowed any concept of 9 films, insisting he only ever planned 6. But now we're back to nine. Go figure.
Disney altered the deal. Pray they don't alter it further.
Jar Jar Binks is simply evidence that George Lucas got his studio projects mixed up, and somehow Roger Rabbit ended up in Star Wars.
The Force is an energy field in all living things. It separates us, penetrates us and binds us together. If energy can neither be created or destroyed but merely transferred, why would one think it can be "awakened" or gone to sleep?? C'mon JJ, don't let us down!
Well if I can put on my "nerd glasses" for a second I think I have a theory on that. I mean assuming that Clone Wars cartoon show is still "canon" and hasn't been relegated to the "legends" category (like the expanded universe books/etc. And yes, I watched the whole clone wars series. Nerd.). Clone Wars (the one with 22 minute episodes, got canceled with some open story arcs) had some episodes about the dark side taking over, but out of the this imbalance in the yin/yang relationship resulting in a new generation of force wielders would come about (foreshadowing Luke in other words). There were some really strange episodes in that series. Hard to believe it was for kids.
Anyway I think it ties in with that sort of thing. After all, as the story goes the Jedi were effectively extinct by episode 4. The one admiral (whatever) on the death star called it a some old religion and Luke/Han had never even heard of it. So in the sense that the "chosen one" of Luke Skywalker will be rebooting the entire concept of the Jedi order from scratch and it will go from Vader and the emperor being the primary people left doing anything force-related to Luke's new concepts/re-founding of the light side...I'd say it's actually an intriguing/accurate title. Seems like it's a better title than "the light awakens". That doesn't any more sense than "the force awakens"
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Of course, if you want to read too much into it you could say this move is really passing the baton on to a new cast of characters. I mean how much running around/falling/jumping/whatever that original cast do, anyway? I would have expected them to be in this movie about as much as Obi Wan was in episode 4. If you look at it that way it could mean it's "30 years later" (as in, decades after Return of the Jedi) and a generation of new light-side Jedi are taking over. So the force is "awake" in that sense. Lots of new Jedi, lots of new people using the force. I haven't read anything about the new movie, I have no idea if this is remotely accurate.
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Actually, twelve:
"Mark Hamill has stated that Lucas told him in 1976, while filming the first film in Tunisia, that four Star Wars trilogies were planned. Lucas suggested Hamill could have a cameo role in Episode IX, which might be filmed in 2011.[1][4] A Time magazine story in March 1978, quoting Lucas, also contained the assertion there would be 10 further Star Wars films after The Empire Strikes Back.[5] Gary Kurtz was also aware of proposed story elements for Episode VII to IX before 1980."
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I specifically remember a childhood rumor going back to the early/mid 80's that there were 9 stories total. Obviously, for years, the other 6 never came, and it kinda turned into an urban legend until the announcement of the first 3.
> Hell, the most common trope the Star Wars universe is the idea of redeeming some character from the Dark Side, which is ultimately an allusion to, or inspired by, the character arc of Anakin/Vader.
But the effect was somewhat destroyed by Anakin's portrayal as a spoiled jerk in the prequels. You got a sense, by the merciful end of whatever the third prequel was called, that Anakin really REALLY needed to die. Like, right now. He appeared to have no redeemable quantities whatsoever, and you couldn't wait for his appendages to be removed in garishly done CGI.
So, looking back, or forward (that's the trouble with time travel, you can never... sorry wrong show) to Vader's change of heart and betrayal of the emperor, it comes off less as his good side (properly foreshadowed) coming through, but rather that he couldn't decide whether to continue to cast his lot with the emperor at the expense of his son, or carry out his earlier Plan B, which was to "rule the galaxy as father and son". Or that he was just being wishy-washy.
See, as portrayed in the original series, you could imagine Vader finding some redemption. But as portrayed in the prequels, you couldn't see that happening. He was the worst of self-absorbed jerks.
A better writer/director would have portrayed Anakin/Vader more as a person doing what he thought was right, and ending up making a mess that he regretted. Not regretting because it got his limbs severed, but because he felt some kind of genuine remorse for the actions he felt necessary. (And no, having Jones shout out a corny "Nooooooooooooo" at the end isn't sufficient.)
There was a lot of potential in the concept for a really compelling story. But instead we got lots and lots of quirky digital effects.
Now, some people say that Lucas was always a hack, and he just got lucky with Star Wars (the original film). I don't think so. I think he was a true visionary. But... something happened to him, starting in the 1980's, and he.. I dunno... lost his muse. And by then was so powerful that nobody on the crew dared say "Um, George, this is crap."
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