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'Star Wars: Episode VII' Gets a Name
schwit1 writes If you feel a disturbance in the Force, it's millions of voices suddenly crying out the new title of Star Wars: Episode VII — The Force Awakens. The reveal comes as the movie finishes its final day of shooting (with many more months of post-production to come.) Although there were still a few days left of shooting, the cast of the J.J. Abrams film already celebrated their wrap party last weekend, following a bumpy few months of principal photography thrown into crisis when Han Solo himself, Harrison Ford, broke his leg on set in an accident involving a falling door on the Millennium Falcon.
I wasn't interested in seeing J.J. Abrams skullfuck Star Trek; if you think I'm going to watch him do it to Star Wars as well, you're sorely mistaken.
Not even mentioning the name. After midi-chlorians...the Force is already awake...just no.
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I think so.
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I like the name; I think it's good. The most interesting part of star wars is the force (and the jedi, as the primary force users). Suggesting that the force is central to the story by naming it in the title gives me hope.
Well, it was supposed to be kind of an old wreck back in Episode IV, I guess by now it is a wonder it is flying at all...
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Given that the Star Wars franchise is owned by Disney now, we should be thankful the title isn't:
Star Wars Episode VII: It's a Small Universe After All
Here's what I expect, in so specific order.
1.) Lens flares, so you can't see what's happening clearly!
2.) Shaky cam, so you can't focus on anything happening!
3.) Ultra-close-up action, so you don't know who is doing what in fights!
4.) Previously known characters acting against their established personalities, for no good reason, and against all reason in general.
5.) Teal and orange! In every scene, teal and orange will provide the color contrast.
6.) C-3PO and R2-D2 will appear for some stupid fucking reasons and tie into the mythos in even more unlikely and retarded ways.
this takes me back to /. during the 90's.
Sooo who are we pouring hot grits on now?
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After the terrible new trilogy, I'm cautiously excited by the new movie written by Lawrence Kasdan, who had zero involvement with the episodes 1-4, but did write such films as The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
They'll be plenty of eye candy (to be sure -- so did the originals!), but maybe having a good writer (who made almost all the Star Wars films you love -- and none of the ones you hate) means you'll have a good story?
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We milk the cash cow...oh, and Force Force something.
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I recall distinctly, back in the seventies, when the original Star Wars was really taking off, there was discussion that Lucas had envisioned nine movies total, in the order of 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9. This ordering was the result of the decision to start in "the middle of the story" to get viewers immediately into the action, and then backfill later.
Many years later, I think when TPM was being planned, Lucas disavowed any concept of 9 films, insisting he only ever planned 6. But now we're back to nine. Go figure.
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I don't blame you. After three films ranging from "meh" to "I just vomited in my popcorn", any new film is going to be approached with extreme suspicion. And that's a good thing.
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The Force is an energy field in all living things. It separates us, penetrates us and binds us together. If energy can neither be created or destroyed but merely transferred, why would one think it can be "awakened" or gone to sleep?? C'mon JJ, don't let us down!
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Where does this sit in the order of movies? Was this movie planned with the original 6?
I'm pretty sure "Episode VII' tells you everything you need to know. :)
Many years later, I think when TPM was being planned, Lucas disavowed any concept of 9 films, insisting he only ever planned 6. But now we're back to nine. Go figure.
Disney altered the deal. Pray they don't alter it further.
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Jar Jar Binks is simply evidence that George Lucas got his studio projects mixed up, and somehow Roger Rabbit ended up in Star Wars.
are good. Everything since then has been pure shyte.
I have a friend whose sister live in L.A. and knows H. Ford. She says that, contrary to popular belief that they had a falling out, he and Mark Hamill still get together regularly and smoke blunts that they light with burning hundred dollar bills. True story.
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Its truly a sad day when anything that the inimitable and infamous SuperShadow brewed up in his mind is more relevant than real upcoming canon SW material.
Errr... Nah. That was his lame excuse for squeezing more money from the franchise when he was set to boot the prequels. The ORIGINAL Star Wars film was a one-off. Something, something something, Dark Side and It's A Trap! were sequels based on the success of the first movie, but since they were conceived in the same epoca the original film was, held some coherence.
The three bastard children not-even-worth-mentioning appear in comparison to be written by lawyers who don't even bothered to watch the original Saga.
The original Star Wars film started with the scrolling text and that "EPISODE IV" title as a homage to the old short-chapter Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers series Lucas used to watch in the movie theaters previous to the main feature. He NEVER had the intention to make 9, 6 or even 3 movies from the beginning.
Then he rolled that mumbo-jumbo and used the "EPISODE IV" as an anchor to justify Jar-Jar Binks and other abominations, such as Female Jedi knights and midichlorians.
there was never any reason to continue any story after RotJ.
the story is complete.
Whether viewed as a set of three movies (the original) or 6, the story can essentially be described as Redemption of Darth Vader.
That's where the emotional punch comes from:
Not just the idea that good can triumph over evil, but that evil's seeming invincibiltyand inevitability is an illusion.
That there is always hope no matter how far one has fallen redemption is in reach.
Hell, the most common trope the Star Wars universe is the idea of redeeming some character from the Dark Side, which is ultimately an allusion to, or inspired by, the character arc of Anakin/Vader.
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The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
nor will I read the novelization of TFA.
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I had an advertisement with the movies in that order and release dates. Not sure if it was official or not though.
Since JJ is in charge, it will be one big car chase. No thanks. Buster Keaton and WC Fields originated the car chase, but it should have ended there, but it lives on, but now the car chases are in space
Actually, twelve:
"Mark Hamill has stated that Lucas told him in 1976, while filming the first film in Tunisia, that four Star Wars trilogies were planned. Lucas suggested Hamill could have a cameo role in Episode IX, which might be filmed in 2011.[1][4] A Time magazine story in March 1978, quoting Lucas, also contained the assertion there would be 10 further Star Wars films after The Empire Strikes Back.[5] Gary Kurtz was also aware of proposed story elements for Episode VII to IX before 1980."
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So Abrams can deny any continuity with the original six episodes, just like Star Trek rebooted.
> The original Star Wars film started with the scrolling text and that "EPISODE IV" title as a homage to the old short-chapter Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers series Lucas used to watch in the movie theaters previous to the main feature. He NEVER had the intention to make 9, 6 or even 3 movies from the beginning.
One could debate his intentions regarding sequels, but I was at the Cine Capri in Phoenix, AZ for a now-embarrassing number of showings in 1977, and there was no "episode iv" nor "a new hope" in the scroll. I'm sorry, it wasn't there. It was added later.
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Is there a good source for info on the upcoming movies? I'm not really interested in spoilers per se, but rather just to see how things are shaping up (without CGI, obviously)
I specifically remember a childhood rumor going back to the early/mid 80's that there were 9 stories total. Obviously, for years, the other 6 never came, and it kinda turned into an urban legend until the announcement of the first 3.
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:-O I must say I'm honored to meet somebody who assisted to the first screenings... From what I've read, you are right, those subtitles weren't there in the very first incarnation of the film.
> Hell, the most common trope the Star Wars universe is the idea of redeeming some character from the Dark Side, which is ultimately an allusion to, or inspired by, the character arc of Anakin/Vader.
But the effect was somewhat destroyed by Anakin's portrayal as a spoiled jerk in the prequels. You got a sense, by the merciful end of whatever the third prequel was called, that Anakin really REALLY needed to die. Like, right now. He appeared to have no redeemable quantities whatsoever, and you couldn't wait for his appendages to be removed in garishly done CGI.
So, looking back, or forward (that's the trouble with time travel, you can never... sorry wrong show) to Vader's change of heart and betrayal of the emperor, it comes off less as his good side (properly foreshadowed) coming through, but rather that he couldn't decide whether to continue to cast his lot with the emperor at the expense of his son, or carry out his earlier Plan B, which was to "rule the galaxy as father and son". Or that he was just being wishy-washy.
See, as portrayed in the original series, you could imagine Vader finding some redemption. But as portrayed in the prequels, you couldn't see that happening. He was the worst of self-absorbed jerks.
A better writer/director would have portrayed Anakin/Vader more as a person doing what he thought was right, and ending up making a mess that he regretted. Not regretting because it got his limbs severed, but because he felt some kind of genuine remorse for the actions he felt necessary. (And no, having Jones shout out a corny "Nooooooooooooo" at the end isn't sufficient.)
There was a lot of potential in the concept for a really compelling story. But instead we got lots and lots of quirky digital effects.
Now, some people say that Lucas was always a hack, and he just got lucky with Star Wars (the original film). I don't think so. I think he was a true visionary. But... something happened to him, starting in the 1980's, and he.. I dunno... lost his muse. And by then was so powerful that nobody on the crew dared say "Um, George, this is crap."
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> there was never any reason to continue any story after RotJ. the story is complete.
I understand the feeling. Vader's story is complete. But what's interesting to me (if they can tell it in a compelling way, and not, for instance, like the crapfest that was the prequels) is what Luke's experiences (the majority of which was caused by Vader) did to him. Luke represents the final splash damage of Anakin's wasted life. It's a thread that shouldn't be left dangling.
Put another way, the story left to tell is how the characters recovered (or didn't) and rebuilt after what happened in the first films. And I don't mean just tearing down statues.
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