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How the World's First Computer Was Rescued From the Scrap Heap

anavictoriasaavedra sends this quote from Wired: "Eccentric billionaires are tough to impress, so their minions must always think big when handed vague assignments. Ross Perot's staffers did just that in 2006, when their boss declared that he wanted to decorate his Plano, Texas, headquarters with relics from computing history. Aware that a few measly Apple I's and Altair 880's wouldn't be enough to satisfy a former presidential candidate, Perot's people decided to acquire a more singular prize: a big chunk of ENIAC, the "Electronic Numerical Integrator And Computer." The ENIAC was a 27-ton, 1,800-square-foot bundle of vacuum tubes and diodes that was arguably the world's first true computer. The hardware that Perot's team diligently unearthed and lovingly refurbished is now accessible to the general public for the first time, back at the same Army base where it almost rotted into oblivion.

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  1. Ross Perot is awesome! by Obscene_CNN · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ross Perot is awesome! Damn shame that Clinton got elected.

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    1. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out 'On Wings of Eagles'

    2. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Voodoo Economics!

    3. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by stox · · Score: 2

      If it wasn't for Perot, Bush I would have probably been elected.

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    4. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 2

      It's a common belief, but it's not true. In exit polls, when Perot voters were asked who they would have voted for if Perot wasn't on the ballot, they were split nearly 50/50.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992#Analysis

    5. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Perot underestimated how disenfranchised most voters were, even then. I think he was utterly unprepared for the possibility that he might actually win. Remember his running mate? Stockman was it? He made Palin look like a great choice. The fact that he still got 19% even when it looked like he was going off the rails was a testament to how upset people were with "tweedle dum and tweedle d".

      Since the Reform Party got taken up by Pat Buchanan and run into the ground, we've had no real alternative. Most people know what a common sense USA should look like... yet sane, middle of the road policy has no lobbyist. You poll people on issues... nobody wanted free trade. Nobody wanted open borders. Nobody wanted copyright extension. Nobody wanted perpetual war--except the special issues that pulled the strings and got all that shit.

    6. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But how could I possible vote for reform if they won't vote the right way on gay marriage and abortion?!

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    7. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      But there was a second vote, which is a puzzling as a non US reader.
      It's the first time I hear of Ross Perot!, and I had no idea a third candidate did 19%. Clinton only did 43%, and Bush 37.4%. A second round ought to have taken place between Clinton and Bush so that one of them gets over 50%. Well, I have just forgot about the Great Electors system and so there was a sad entirely blue vs red US map anyway.

    8. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      "But there was no second vote" I meant. sorry.

    9. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by jandersen · · Score: 1

      At first I read your comment as a clever, sarcastic comment, but now I'm not so sure.

      Ross Perot has always struck me as complete tosser, if you'll excuse the expression. This story only confirms my view. What really sets me off is the scale of stupid luxury - the kind of stuff you spend money on, despite the fact that you don't actually like it or have any use for it, but simply because you want to show others that you are rich enough to throw money around stupidly. If he had bought the whole computer, had it set up in working order and displayed it to the public for free in a museum, that would have been admirable, but as I read it from idly skimming the summary, he just got some parts of it. Idiot.

    10. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 2

      ENIAC anagram solver output: H. Ross Perot == Short Poser

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    11. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Each state votes as a state for president. Then all the states are tallied up. The US is not a direct democracy, it is a collection of united States. Advocates of a strong central government to rule over us all, generally brush over this fact. They have estimated that power wielded more distant from the people governed is easier to wield without regard for said people, and power is all that matters to them.

    12. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by operagost · · Score: 1

      I have to agree that if we had a runoff system, people would probably stop complaining about the elector system that they know nothing about. Having a de facto two party system is simply not working. We probably should get rid of physical electors to streamline the process, but the idea of citizens electing their president through the states is a logical, consistent one.

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    13. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by operagost · · Score: 1

      Did you actually read the article? He didn't ask for the ENIAC, specifically. They could have just grabbed an old IBM, but the guy assigned the project kicked it up a few notches. Parts of it are still unaccounted for, and one panel they recovered was destroyed. The missing panels would have to be recreated from plans-- if they still exist-- and the existing ones would have to be extensively repaired.

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    14. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by hey! · · Score: 1

      He was also a conspiracy theorist who had the money to indulge his paranoid fantasies.

      He had the phones of his own employees tapped. He hired private investigators to spy on his friends and family, and to dig up dirt on friends of his children he didn't approve of. He went beserk when he found out the designer of the Vietnam Memorial was an Asian American, calling her racial slurs and hiring lawyers to harass the veterans who supported her.

      This is a man who thinks that both the Carter and Reagan administrations conspired to hide the presence of hundreds of POW in Southeast Asia.

      I often tell my kids "there's no kind of dumb like a smart person's dumb." It's a warning against arrogance. Smart people can get too used to being right when other people around them are wrong. But in truth there is a worse kind of dumb: rich person's dumb. That's because money can give ideas instant credibility with people in a way arguments cannot. There's a strong inclination in this country to idolize rich guys.

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    15. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      An absolutely wonderful human being. Incredibly demanding of and loyal to his people.

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    16. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Schaffner · · Score: 1

      Parts of ENIAC are in the Smithsonian and the Computer History Museum. I think there are some other places, too. So, he could get the whole thing. I doubt you can get the parts to make it work. However, some university did make an "ENIAC on a chip".

    17. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Dishevel · · Score: 1
      Administrations did hide the fact that POWs were still in Asia.

      Getting them out would be hard at best and not guaranteed. Therefor, the best move in their opinion was to just get it out of site so it would be out of mind.

      Same things have happened many times since on both side of the aisle. Inconvenient things are tossed aside to be forgotten. If they are not forgotten quickly enough then they are hidden.

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    18. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by P3r1$c0p3 · · Score: 1

      I bet he just thought it was ironic that the memorial designer was asian. I think that is actually kind of funny that a crusty old Texan would say something like that. You are right. He should just be a suit that reads a teleprompter and has no natural personality and all ways at all times has a PR/PC filter. Do you imagine what you look like to people you don't care about all the time and not say what you mean? That is the politically correct thing to do. You throw out the racist/conspiracy theorist ad hominem attack so therefore nothing he says can be credible or is at least is marginalized. He had one of the highest popular votes of a third party candidate ever. I believe he called Maya Lin "eggroll" or "wonton" or something. That is not really that bad. Old Texans talk like that. I bet if you were a titan of industry you too might start to see some things that look conspiritorial. Does your sphere of influence touch circles that have the power to be conspiriatorial? You seem to think being rich is bad. If you earn and don't do evil things with your money there is nothing wrong with it. I bet your prius has an Obama sticker on it with an "Equil rights for transgender children animals" supporting member ribbon. Please don't key my SUV to prove you are so smart that I should pay a carbon tax. It is just a conspiracy of big oil and the auto insustry after all to keep consumption up.

    19. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Sad thing is that the 2 companies that he founded are now digested by 2 other once great American companies. EDS is today a part of HP, and Perot Systems a part of Dell. Both, as well as IBM, have been taken to the cleaners by the likes of Infosys, TCS and Wipro.

    20. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I believe he called Maya Lin "eggroll" or "wonton" or something. That is not really that bad. Old Texans talk like that.

      "Hitler wasn't really that bad. There were plenty of other anti-semites in Old Germany."

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    21. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      That explains the strong cultural trait in favor of limited government power or federal power

    22. Re:Ross Perot is awesome! by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Did you actually read the article?

      No - I wasn't commenting on the actual article, but on the apparent fawning over the way an obscenely rich person casually wastes money on expensive, but fundamentally worthless decorations. A bit like when some 'artist' exhibits a few rotting pig carcasses in a glassbox, and it turns out there actually are people in the world, who combine wealth with a stupidity to the extent that they will pay tens to hundreds of thousands of USD for it, 'because it is art'. I find it genuinely hard to understand that anybody can admire that kind of people for this sort of thing.

  2. Umich had a row or so of it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The thing was freakin huge. There was about 4-5 racks up in the mezzanine storage that someone was trying to reverse engineer to work somewhat and 3-4 on display at one time. Haven't been to EECS in a decade though.

  3. Except... by SkunkPussy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...it wasn't the first computer.

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    1. Re:Except... by SkunkPussy · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Except... by Megol · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Depending on how one defines computer there have been analog machines with misc. mechanisms long before the Eniac. Decimal machines of different complexities was created 1600-1900.
      Even if one uses a definition closer to a modern computer the Zuse V1 (later renamed Z1) was working in 1938 and used binary representation with floating point numbers.

    3. Re:Except... by RadioheadKid · · Score: 1

      Colossus wasn't general purpose, so ENIAC was the first general purpose.

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    4. Re:Except... by arth1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Several years later than this one:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z...

      The Z3 was the first electromechanical gp computer
      The ABC was the first electronic non-gp computer
      The Colossus was the first electronic gp computer
      The ENIAC was the first American gp computer.

    5. Re:Except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the wiki page:
      "Colossus was the first of the electronic digital machines with programmability, albeit limited by modern standards.[34]

      It had no internally stored programs. To set it up for a new task, the operator had to set up plugs and switches to alter the wiring.
      Colossus was not a general-purpose machine, being designed for a specific cryptanalytic task involving counting and Boolean operations.
      A Colossus computer was thus not a fully general Turing complete machine"

      ENIAC was a *general purpose* computer so calling it the first computer is justifiable.

      or maybe this guy

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z3_(computer)

    6. Re:Except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Atanasoff–Berry computer was the first. The Eniac was derivative. It was the first to use binary representation, the first exclusively electronic for calculations & first to separate memory from computation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atanasoff%E2%80%93Berry_computer

    7. Re:Except... by beelsebob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Colossus absolutely was general purpose - it just wasn't stored program. You had to set it up fresh for each program.

    8. Re:Except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Colossus wasn't a general purpose computer. It was built specifically to crack Lorenz ciphers. ENIAC was the first fully electronic, Turing-complete computer.

    9. Re:Except... by gweihir · · Score: 0

      Indeed. In a very real sense, the US was late to this game. Of course they would revise history to obscure their failure.

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    10. Re:Except... by Baloroth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Colossus absolutely was general purpose - it just wasn't stored program. You had to set it up fresh for each program.

      No, it wasn't general purpose. It was designed from the ground up to solve a very specific class of problems. It would have been possible (as the linked article states) to put a bunch of them together to form a Universal Turing computer, but it itself was not general purpose nor Turing complete.

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    11. Re:Except... by Solandri · · Score: 3, Informative

      Before you younguns turn this into a "those silly Americans" thread, Colossus was absolutely essential to breaking the Nazi Enigma code and was classified during and after WWII. ENIAC was therefore regarded worldwide as the world's first general purpose computer. Everyone who went to school before 1996 was taught that ENIAC was the world's first GP computer.

      Information about Colossus was first declassified in 1975, but it wasn't until 1996 (not coincidentally 50 years after WWII ended) that enough about it was declassified for the general public to realize it was in fact the first GP computer.

    12. Re: Except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Which is all well and good, but why does that make it ok for you guys to keep claiming that it was?
      Also the first stored program computer i.e. the direct ancestor of what we all recognise as a modern day computer, was also made in the UK at Manchester University. The Difference Engine was from the UK too. So.....if you guys could kindly stop claimng you invented computing, when it was quite obviously Babbage and Turing, that would be really great.

    13. Re:Except... by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      Colossus absolutely was general purpose ... No, it wasn't

      So which of you two are going to tell Colossus that?

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    14. Re:Except... by GumphMaster · · Score: 2

      Colossus was built to deal with the higher value, lower volume and more difficult Lorenz SZ40/42 electronic teletype machine ciphers known as "Tunny".

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    15. Re:Except... by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      Several years later than this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z...

      The Z3 was the first electromechanical gp computer The ABC was the first electronic non-gp computer The Colossus was the first electronic gp computer The ENIAC was the first American gp computer.

      Except the Z3 was German

    16. Re:Except... by cold+fjord · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Actually the US suceeded in producing a electronic gp computer in that era. It was Germany that failed, which you seem to be trying to obscure.

      I'm curious, what is it that drives your pathological hatred of the US? Did a US tank on a NATO exercise run over your dog or something? Insecure about Germany's place in the word? Bitter about the Wall falling and communism failing?

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    17. Re:Except... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Either way though the Z3 beat them both out. It definitely fits the only reasonable definition of a computer: Turing complete but with limited memory, though this is possibly something of a cheat. It predates either of those two.

      History, however is written by the winners.

      If you don't know about the Z3, you should read about it. Konrad Zuse was a bit of a dude to put it mildly, with a long list of inventions.

      The Z1 was "just" a programmable calculating machine. He built it from sheet metal in his parent's living room. It used booloean logic, and pioneered the use of floating point.

      The Z3 replaced the unreliable mechanics of the Z1 with relays and was much better. It also completed floating point arithmetic, including exceptions, +/-INF and NaN equivalent. It was programmed via an external tape, rather than plug board rewiring. It also had a terminal for input and output. One of the best bits: the Z3 was severely limited in clock speed unning at about 4Hz, so to get the most out if the relays it had a 3 stage pipeline with overlaping instructions.

      It was completed in 1943.

      The Z4 was completed in 1945 and was even better, also including a conditional branch instruction (something the Z3 lacked).

      ENIAC was a very fine achievement, but wasn't thr first computer.

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    18. Re:Except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Z3 was and it predates both.

    19. Re:Except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, thank you!

    20. Re: Except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Next you'll be claiming that the US didn't single-handedly win both world wars!

    21. Re:Except... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      We computer people get boners for things that can, at least in the theoretical model anyway, simulate a Turing machine.

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    22. Re:Except... by khallow · · Score: 1

      nor Turing complete

      No real world computer can be Turing complete because it can't have infinite storage.

    23. Re: Except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So.....if you guys could kindly stop claimng you invented computing, when it was quite obviously Babbage and Turing, that would be really great.

      You don't really want that. Then you'd have nothing to whine about.

    24. Re: Except... by operagost · · Score: 1

      No one claims America "invented computing", you crass buffoon.

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    25. Re:Except... by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Baby (the SSEM) was the first stored-program, electronic, general purpose computer.

      For the current definition of a computer Baby was the first computer.

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    26. Re:Except... by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      ENIAC had no internally stored programs, To set it up for a new task, the operator had to set up plugs and switches to alter the wiring.

      (ENIAC was later modified to use a program stored in what was effectively ROM, but that wasn't how it was originaly designed or built, and made it run slower as it stopped the parallel features working).

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    27. Re:Except... by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

      As far as Zuse's Z3 is concerned, it was not so much failure as in ineptitude as it was more unlucky circumstances. Zuse could just not get his hands on enough tubes and relais that could be diverted from the war industry and were still usable. That is the sole reason why he opted for mechanical memory made from flattened out coffee cans. Zuse was well capable of building a fully electronic GP computer and would have done so if he had the parts for it. Along with the Z3 came also the first GP programming language "Plankalkül". Zuse was a computing genius, one of the best engineers the world has seen. It is always sad to see that his groundbreaking work still gets basically no credit. There is no hatred towards the US. The ENIAC was an engineering marvel in its own right and the people creating and running it geniuses as well. Same applies to the Colossus. As far as history goes, they were not the first. And as far as the contribution of a single person is concerned, Zuse did it all while ENIAC and Colossus had entire teams of engineers and scientists to draw from.

    28. Re: Except... by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

      It all comes down to historical facts. And fact is, Zuse was the first one to build a fully turing-compatible GP computer that was partially mechanical only because of the scarcity of parts on the civil market. German military had almost no interest in Zuse's work. This is not about US vs Germany, or about who won the war, this argument is solely about historical accuracy. Look at the confirmed dates, the Z3 was first. No idea why that is even objectionable.

    29. Re: Except... by evanak · · Score: 1

      The ABC myth was widely debunked 30 years ago by serious historians. Every so often someone "discovers" it. That machine was electromechanical, not all-electronic, and Babbage used binary concepts. Also ABC was simply a calculator not a computer -- it had no program.

    30. Re:Except... by cold+fjord · · Score: 1

      That was a great post, but it contained one error. Slashdot user gweihir is hostile towards the US, regularly making nonense or hostile comments that add nothing to the discussion.

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    31. Re:Except... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Correcting knee-jerk nationalism is not being hostile towards the nation in question. You ignored the evidence that the original claim was incorrect simply because someone who agrees with it is, according to you, "hostile towards the US". Pathetic. How are you even an adult? You have the logical acumen on a child arguing about Pokemon.

  4. the first built in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    not the world's first.

    1. Re:the first built in the US by RadioheadKid · · Score: 2

      It was the first general purpose.

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    2. Re:the first built in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was the one called "first" by US propaganda press. guess the reason.

    3. Re:the first built in the US by beelsebob · · Score: 2

      No, Colossus was General Purpose - ENIAC was the first general purpose, stored program computer.

    4. Re:the first built in the US by gweihir · · Score: 2

      No, that was the Zuse Z1 in 1938, 8 years before ENIAC. Even the Z4, which was a freaking _commercial_ design was built from 1943 onwards, years before ENIAC.

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    5. Re:the first built in the US by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, Colossus was General Purpose

      True, but only as long as all your purposes are restricted to cracking the codes from a particular model of Nazi mechanical encryption device.

    6. Re:the first built in the US by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      That isn't what was claimed.

      If you're moving the goalposts that's pretty much an admission that you missed.

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    7. Re:the first built in the US by Ottibus · · Score: 1

      ENIAC was the first general purpose, stored program computer.

      Nope, the program was not stored in the computer, it was configured using switches and cables.

      But perhaps you meant to say "EDSAC" :)

  5. ENIAC wasn't the first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    ENIAC wasn't the first electronic programmable computer. Colossus was. It was used for code breaking in WW2. Colossus Mark 1 was up and running by December 1943, and Mark 2 (using shift registers to increase speed) was up and running by June 1944. The only reason people think of ENIAC instead of Colossus, was that Colossus's existence was kept secret up until the 1970s. By that time ENIAC got all the publicity.

    1. Re:ENIAC wasn't the first by whoever57 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Manchester "Baby" is also claimed to be the first true computer. Both Colossus and ENIAC are not full computers in the way we understand them now.

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    2. Re:ENIAC wasn't the first by RadioheadKid · · Score: 0

      Colossus wasn't general purpose.

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    3. Re:ENIAC wasn't the first by beelsebob · · Score: 1

      As I've said several times through this thread - yes, it was. What it couldn't do (that ENIAC could) is store its program.

    4. Re:ENIAC wasn't the first by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Fail. The Z1 was the first programmable computer, finished in 1938 by Zuse himself, on private funding.

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    5. Re:ENIAC wasn't the first by Baloroth · · Score: 2

      Fail. The Z1 was the first programmable computer, finished in 1938 by Zuse himself, on private funding.

      Yes, but he didn't fail, because that's not what he said. He said first electronic programmable computer. The Z1 (and successors) were electromechanical. Still impressive in their own right, true, but nothing like the electronic computers that were invented later.

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    6. Re:ENIAC wasn't the first by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Yes, but he didn't fail, because that's not what he said. He said first electronic programmable computer. The Z1 (and successors) were electromechanical. Still impressive in their own right, true, but nothing like the electronic computers that were invented later.

      Indeed, the Z1--Z4 were not much like the electronic computers built shortly later. They were in fact much more like the electronic computers built *decades* later.

      Bear in mind that Eniac was a decimal machine, whereas the Z? machines were binary. ENIAC was an integer based machine, whereas the Z? machines had hardware floating point and for all except the Z1, this included denormals and exceptions. ENIAC was programmed using plugs and switches where as the Z? machines had machine code stored on tape with overlapped pipelined instruction decoding.

      In almost every way, the Z? machines were much more like modern computers than ENIAC ever was.

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    7. Re:ENIAC wasn't the first by Ottibus · · Score: 1

      What it couldn't do (that ENIAC could) is store its program.

      Nope, ENIAC couldn't do that either:

      "The freeze on design in 1943 meant that the [ENIAC] computer design would lack some innovations that soon became well-developed, notably the ability to store a program."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E...

    8. Re:ENIAC wasn't the first by operagost · · Score: 1

      Except for those pesky,slow mechanical relays... and total lack of conditional branches.

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    9. Re:ENIAC wasn't the first by operagost · · Score: 1

      ENIAC was Turing-complete, which is a full computer as nearly everyone understands it now.

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    10. Re:ENIAC wasn't the first by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Except for those pesky,slow mechanical relays... and total lack of conditional branches.

      Firstly, the thermionic valves of ENIAC are about as far from transistors as electromechanical realays (bar speed and vacuum channel transistors). Second, the Z4 had conditional branches.

      The Z4 is far more like a modern computer architecturally than ENIAC, and given that one can make the logic elements out of whatever is to hand. Zuse AG later sold transistorised versions of the Z4.

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  6. Except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atanasoff-Berry_Computer

  7. There are no computers you insensitive clods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it has limited space, its not turing complete. Not just the space is limited (this alone would suffice), but because of that the time too (unless you want to never terminate) (If you have n bits, there is a constant c for every program such that the program ends within c^n time, this is simply seen by the number of "states" the program has, you cant have more than 2^n configurations of your space, and you can't have a pair of Program counter register value (lets assume harvard-architecture here, so program's fixed) and memory configuration occur twice, because this would lead to a loop). If its not turing complete, its no computer. So please stop to call these machines "computers".

    1. Re:There are no computers you insensitive clods by magarity · · Score: 1

      Nice try at snobbery but it doesn't need to be infinite to be turing complete. And like an infinite number of monkey bashing on keyboards might eventually write "Hamlet", a truly infinite computer might contain the solution to the halting problem, thus making itself not turing complete any more. So there.

  8. correction to TFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first American computer. Not the first computer.

    1. Re:correction to TFS by aliquis · · Score: 1

      The first American computer.

      So what you mean is the BIGGER computer? :D

  9. Making ENIAC run again by erice · · Score: 2

    Gleason realized early on that he couldn’t make his portion of ENIAC run actual calculations—such an endeavor would require all 40 panels

    I wonder if Gleason of other preservationists have considered building functional replicas of the missing panels. Doing so would be the first step is bringing the relics to life again as a functioning computer.

    Of course, that would not be the end of the project:

    , not to mention thousands of new components and technical know-how that had long been forgotten.

    But perhaps a workable project to restore ENIAC to working order could inspire the re-discovery of such knowledge. Often of technical knowledge thought to be lost is not really lost, just misplaced. Somebody knows or knows who knows but they need to be inspired to come forward or follow up on their hunch.

    1. Re:Making ENIAC run again by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      Somebody knows or knows who knows but they need to be inspired to come forward or follow up on their hunch.

      Slight problem: ENIAC was built about 70 years ago and most of the people who were involved in its construction are dead. It's really hard to inspire dead people enough to get them to come forward.

  10. I couldn't focus on the story by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    That giant sucking sound coming from the south was interfering with my concentration.

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    1. Re: I couldn't focus on the story by Ahnahmoley · · Score: 1

      I laughed out loud. +1 if I had mod points.

  11. 1941: Zuse Z3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Binary (not decimal like the ENIAC), floating point unit, touring complete, programmable via tape. Nothing came close for years.

    1. Re:1941: Zuse Z3 by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Actually, Z1 in 1938. But it was not reliable, so design upgrades were required.

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      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    2. Re:1941: Zuse Z3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " touring complete,"

      Wow, really? Did it come with driving gloves too?

  12. Essentially lost: only 8 out of 40 panels by unimacs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So essentially ENIAC is lost.

    What's left is only a quarter of the original machine that's been turned into some light show. The other 3/4 of the panels are owned by other people or are gone entirely. While I'm not saying it wasn't worth doing or that it wasn't hard work, it's not what I would call "refurbished".

    It's like digging up a skeleton and having someone rig up a motion detector to play recorded phrases and move the jaw as people walk by it.

    Unfortunately there seems to be a period of time where things are just old and past their usefulness, - their historical significance takes more time for people to appreciate. I understand that a true restoration would be hugely impractical, but it would be cool.

    1. Re:Essentially lost: only 8 out of 40 panels by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      I suppose someone could rig up a raspberry pi and add a bunch of sleep() counters to simulate the actual computing speed and give you the "simulation" of using the real deal, right?

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    2. Re:Essentially lost: only 8 out of 40 panels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      8 out of 40...
      A quarter of the original machine?

      Did ENIAC also suffer some sort of fdiv bug?

    3. Re:Essentially lost: only 8 out of 40 panels by unixisc · · Score: 1

      That's what I thought - can't a bottom of the line FPGA be programmed to simulate the ENIAC, and do everything that the ENIAC did? Minus the 100V tubes and all that power guzzling equipment?

  13. Re:But... by aliquis · · Score: 1

    Can you play Crysis on it?

    Sure. Bring a laptop.

  14. Not the first computer by gweihir · · Score: 1

    ENIAC is merely the first _electronic_ computer. The Zuse Z1 was the first programmable computer, and it was built on private funds, by Zuse himself.

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    1. Re:Not the first computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ENIAC is not even the first _electronic_ computer.

    2. Re:Not the first computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the Microsoft Zuse? Nope, that turkey failed miserably.

  15. Could of had one... by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    I had a chance to bid on an ENIAC at a Government auction, Looking at it, while it would be cool to have and show off, my entire 3 bedroom ranch house with an extension wasn't big enough to store it in; had to pass for obvious reasons.

    I did ask about it, the high bid was $300 but refused as the precious metals were worth more than that.

    But I did have a chance :}

    1. Re:Could of had one... by GNious · · Score: 1

      you "could of had one" ?
      Sorry, English is not my native language, why do you have the word "of" doing in that structure?

    2. Re:Could of had one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just dialect that made it back into the writing. Read "Could have had one..." In some areas, the pronunciation of "have" in that example moved more to "huv" or "uv," which sound like the word "of."

    3. Re:Could of had one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you "could of had one" ? Sorry, English is not my native language, why do you have the word "of" doing in that structure?

      "Could have had", contracted to "Could've had", misspelled as "Could of had"--it's a common error even amongst native speakers.

      On a related note: in informal speech, "could've", "would've", "should've" are sometimes elided to "coulda", "shoulda", "woulda".

  16. I find this hard to believe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They had computers before 1957? How could they build computers without space? Space is the only driver for innovation, because spinoffs.

    1. Re:I find this hard to believe by Schaffner · · Score: 1

      There was a war on. Then we had to build bigger bombs to beat the Rooshins in the nucular race.

  17. What's an Altair 880? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know about Altair 8800s and IMSAI 8080s.

    Or just another /. edit fail.

  18. Essentially lost: only 8 out of 40 panels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or you can get ENIAC on a chip:

    http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~jan/eniacproj.html

    much less space and easier on the electric bill too.

  19. THAT was not Perot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    George H W Bush (aka Bush41) tossed that moniker in Reagan's direction in the primaries in the 1980 election cycle. Reagan was the conservative and Bush was the establishment guy, and the establishment Republicans were doing everything they could possibly do to stop Reagan (which led to the famous mike-cutting incident which can be seen on You Tube). When Reagan won the GOP nomination, the establishment wanted him to put former president Ford on the ticket... and since he had been President a VP slot was not what they wanted; they told Reagan that he should take Ford as his "co-president". Reagan was not dumb enugh to fall for that and instead put Bush (the establishment's 2nd choice) on the ticket as VP to unify the party - after which only Democrats went on using the "voodoo economics" phrase.

    Ross Perot's famous phrase was "giant sucking sound" which was what he said the American middle class would hear, relative to jobs wages and benefits, if the establishment Republicans (represented by Bush41 in the 1992 race) and/or the establishment Democrats (backing Clinton in 1992) got their way and rewarded Wall Street bankers by passing NAFTA. Perot was a smart but un-artful guy deploying something we used to call "common sense" and basic economics and was, of course, ultimately proved correct.

    I was never a big fan of his, but he WAS a genuinely patriotic guy who spent a lot of time and money trying to bring any American POWs home and similar causes AND he was a computer guy long before Bill Gates and Steve Jobs (though of a very different sort naturally since he was pre-microcomputer.

    Perot may have failed to get elected, but he set a very high standard for any would-be third-party presidential candidate to even match.

    Oh, and relative to the "restoration" - it was apparently not up to museum standards BUT even reputable museums have done similar things with other artifacts like famous rare aircraft. It's best when people do this stuff if they at least keep the parts and document everything so somebody later can re-do it better. Certainly whatever his employees did, it was FAR better than what the government had done for decades.

  20. Re:Ancient memes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fact: *BSD is D E A D.

  21. Admiral Stockdale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Admiral Stockdale (Perot's running mate) was a very decent and honorable man and NOT some sort of village idiot. He, however, committed the cardinal sin of modern American politics: he went on national television without being all scripted and programmed and spoon-fed "talking points". He spoke to Americans as an ordinary American, like a grandfather. He and Perot probably gave the population too much credit and assumed that the man's resume and reputation alone would assure people that of all six people in those debates (Bush, Clinton, Perot, Quayle, Gore, and Stockdale) the retired admiral was the one most qualified, least eager, and most trustworthy to be going for one of the two top jobs; Bush,Gore, and Clinton had all been seeking the presidency for many years and people who want power that badly probably should not be given it. Quayle was Bush's insurance policy, and Perot was the ornery dude who was disgusted by both parties and was always being begged to run.... of ALL of them, Stockdale was the only one who actually belonged at 1600 Penn.

  22. It was blue! by m.alessandrini · · Score: 1

    Now we can see it in colors... Did IBM name "Deep Blue" after that?

  23. John von Neumann, my jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I understand correctly ENIAC was the first computer with no moving parts (pure electronics) AND the von Neumann digital architecture, whereby data and program are the same and program can modify its code as if data, to become a different program.

    Therefore, ENIAC was theoretically possible to infect with malware, had any "leet hax0r" of 1947 endeavoured to achieve such a feat for lulz and profit. That way, ENIAC is the true ancestor of Microsoft Windows and Android!

    On the other hand, the night interceptor version of the infamous Messerschmitt Me-262 jetfighter had a relay-based Zuse mini computer onboard, which autopiloted the shotdown, based on data input from the primitive "antlers" phased array radar set the plane carried in the nose. Allies got lucky that only a dozen or so were built of these before the austrian mustached painter went kaput.

    Allegedly a larger Zuse computer prototype, designed for the guidance of A-9/A-10 trans-atlantic ICBM missile is still in US possession. Those nazional-socialst germans were a scary bunch. Nowadays some russian historians claim at least 4 such missiles were launched at soviet factories localted in the Ural mountains, during April 1945 and at least two impacted the targets, but got covered up. This could explain why the soviets had such an extreme focus on rocketry post-WW2, at the expense of blue water naval development, for example. Luckily they couldn't match either the german or american developments in guidance computers, else they could have converted Sputnik and Gagarin to a first landing on the Moon or spot-on accurate ICBMs.

  24. Nice news, wrong headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know, this is one more message in the mass. But let's say it again anyway: The first computer, as considered by computer historians, was the Z3 built by Konrad Zuse in 1946, five years earlier. Check out the Wikipedia.-Ignacio Agulló

    1. Re:Nice news, wrong headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1941! What was I thinking? Of course it was built in 1941, when Berlin wasn't destroyed yet. 1946 is the year of ENIAC.

  25. It was not restored by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was mummified at best

  26. Too bad they couldn't nab the whole thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got to walk around inside a Canadian version of Eniac (but several generations newer - still "room sized" and built with vacuum tubes) when my step-dad was stationed down in "The Hole" in the 70's.

    I can't directly say that it inspired my future self's choice of career ... but here we are.

  27. A clarification by kilodelta · · Score: 1

    ENIAC was the first digital ELECTRONIC computer. There had been relay monsters built before it.

  28. Wasn't the abacus the first computer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it qualify as such?

  29. EDSAC by Ottibus · · Score: 1

    Everyone who went to school before 1996 was taught that ENIAC was the world's first GP computer.

    It depends where you went to school. I was taught that EDSAC was the first fully programmable computer. Earlier devices (including ENIAC) had to be physically re-configured to run each different program using cables and switches, rather than just loading a new program into the same memory that is used for data.

    Even if we had known about Colossus at that time (and it is possible that some of my teachers did...) it would not have qualified as a stored-program computer.

    1. Re:EDSAC by arth1 · · Score: 1

      It depends where you went to school. I was taught that EDSAC was the first fully programmable computer. Earlier devices (including ENIAC) had to be physically re-configured to run each different program using cables and switches, rather than just loading a new program into the same memory that is used for data.

      I thought the Manchester "Baby" preceded EDSAC?
      While it was limited compared to its successors, it did have stored programs.

      (Also, the Z3 could be programmed from tape, but it was electromechanical and not electronic.)

  30. not even close to original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's like a zillion other Hollywood prop computers: a bunch of blinky lights wired up to move in artistic patterns (motion detector? ) None of the vacuum tubes and diodes (which the author seems not to realize are also vacuum tubes) were being used, etc.

    Other than the fact that the actual metal is the same, I don't know that this is legitimately a "rescue of a computer".

  31. Chimera by wallsg · · Score: 1

    Next you'll be claiming that the US didn't single-handedly win both world wars!

    We did pretty much single-handedly stop the Chimera invasion in 1949 though.

  32. Usual Wired hype... nothing to see here by mspohr · · Score: 1

    Perot didn't rescue anything. They just found a few panels and wired them up with blinky lights, Hollywood style.

    Here's a list of the ENIAC parts and their locations (from Wikipedia):
    The School of Engineering and Applied Science at the University of Pennsylvania (where the ENIAC was built in 1943 and operated until 1947) has four of the original forty panels and one of the three function tables of ENIAC (on loan from the Smithsonian).
    The Smithsonian has five panels in the National Museum of American History in Washington, D.C.
    The Science Museum in London has a receiver unit on display.
    The Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California has three panels and a function table on display (on loan from the Smithsonian).
    The University of Michigan in Ann Arbor has four panels, salvaged by Arthur Burks.
    The U.S. Army Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland, where ENIAC was used, has one of the function tables.
    The Perot Group in Plano, Texas has also seven panels and detailed history and explanation of ENIAC functions using text, graphics, photographs and interactive touch screen.
    The U.S. Military Academy at West Point, NY has one of the data entry terminals from the ENIAC.

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    1. Re:Usual Wired hype... nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then they became networked together. Then they became sentient. I fear for the world ...

  33. It cannot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The wold's first computer (Zuse Z3) was destroyed in one of the many bombings on Berlin in WW2.

  34. Mister Konrad Zuse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...wants to have a word with you.

  35. Restored or destroyed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They described the 'restoration' as follows:
        Strip to bare panels, sand blast and repaint.
            Install lights, wire up to a DMX light dimmer, make them blink.

    If this is actually what happened, they pretty much destroyed the computer to make something the looks like a computer.

    It's hard to understand someone supposedly technically savvy like Perot as doing this.
        Unless his intentions were to just have a piece of artwork for show, instead of anything of historical significance.

    They might have been better off is they stayed lost in the crates in the warehouse.
        Which says the raiders of the lost arch plan was actually pretty good.