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"Team America" Gets Post-Hack Yanking At Alamo Drafthouse, Too

Slate reports that even old movies are enough to trigger a pretty strong knee jerk: Team America, World Police, selected as a tongue-in-cheek replacement by Dallas's Alamo Drafthouse Theater for the Sony-yanked The Interview after that film drew too much heat following the recent Sony hack, has also been pulled. The theater's tweet, as reprinted by Slate: "due to circumstances beyond our control,” their Dec. 27 Team America screening has also been canceled." If only I had a copy, I'd like to host a viewing party here in Austin for The Interview, which I want to see now more than ever. (And it would be a fitting venue.)

230 comments

  1. America! by Iniamyen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fuck yeah!

    1. Re:America! by halivar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "North Korea? Oh, Fuck no!" - Sony, Paramount, et al.

    2. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      came for this... not disappointed.

    3. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Team America" Gets Post-Hack Yanking At Alamo Drafthouse, Too

      I could go for a post-hack yanking. I'm cool with k-girls.

    4. Re:America! by Pedrito · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In all seriousness, though, I think Sony ought to release the movie and I think everyone who believes in free speech ought to buy a ticket, whether they see it or not. Let's turn this movie into a blockbuster! That's the American thing to do! Well, at least back when Americans acted like Americans.

    5. Re: America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not an American.
      The Interview needs to be released, and if not let's get Team America back out there

    6. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Bummer version)

    7. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      America - a team of world class pussies.

    8. Re:America! by Megane · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have a feeling that Trey and Matt are going to do well in the coming week or two. I still haven't seen Team America, and I can't be the only one.

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    9. Re:America! by cheater512 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'd prefer for everyone to pirate it.

      You screw the North Koreans (and their supporters) and Sony in one go. Win Win.

      And ironically, it seems that will be the only way to watch the movie for the time being. Cause the terrorists have won.

    10. Re:America! by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

      Good luck eating butterscotch pudding after viewing that movie.

    11. Re: America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the hackers leaked other new Sony movies but not the interview?
      Hehe

    12. Re: America! by Pharoah_69 · · Score: 0

      Right on!

      America is the problem. They are the terrorists to the United States and to this planet; considering they are a programmed-opposite culture.

    13. Re:America! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd prefer for everyone to pirate it.

      You screw the North Koreans (and their supporters) and Sony in one go. Win Win.

      And ironically, it seems that will be the only way to watch the movie for the time being. Cause the terrorists have won.

      So when the terrorists win, so does free speech?

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    14. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck yeah!

      Fuck, the Americans are __really__ running scared

      Yeah!

      Captha: trilled

    15. Re: America! by jd2112 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because subjecting the American public to the "Annie" remake should be punishment enough.

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    16. Re:America! by godel_56 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In all seriousness, though, I think Sony ought to release the movie and I think everyone who believes in free speech ought to buy a ticket, whether they see it or not. Let's turn this movie into a blockbuster! That's the American thing to do! Well, at least back when Americans acted like Americans.

      You've got to be joking! Everyone buys a ticket and gives a huge profit to Sony and Fox?

      Fuck that, I don't think so.

    17. Re:America! by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think everyone who believes in free speech ought to buy a ticket,

      The movie is neither courageous nor a triumph of free speech. It would be both if North Koreans had made it. But it's not.

      It didn't even look like a good movie

      And giving money to corporation for a shitty in return may be an American way, but it's not one I want to encourage.

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    18. Re:America! by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 2

      Or watch it on Netflix. Unless they chicken out too, american style. (zing)

      well that was more sad than funny :(

    19. Re:America! by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      O'er the land of the cowed and the home of the chickenshit!

    20. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still haven't seen Team America...

      In South Park, they've got all these characters from the fringes of suburban American society that are portrayed with a certain underlying sympathy and humanity - e.g. their character of a gay man grade school teacher who wasn't a horrible child destroying monster was revolutionary at the time. At least in the early days, I'd watch South park and have the sense that Trey and Matt really understood the misfits of suburban America. But their "Team America" movie was disappointing. There was this sense that they really just didn't understand the world outside of suburban America - that they were just confused and angry with nothing of value to put in their movie. But don't let me stop you from seeing it - maybe you'll even like it. :)

    21. Re:America! by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Cause the terrorists have won.

      We thought their game was through, but they knew the Konami Code.

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    22. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am totally fine with that.

      I would love to see the entertainment industry stop monetizing fear and start monetizing bravery and conviction of principles.

      Business is always going to look for ways to make money, better that they be aligned with improving society than wrecking it.

    23. Re:America! by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      I don't give a rat's ass about the fucking movie OR Sony. I'm not about to give those assholes a goddam dime and reward their bad business practices.

      Security will continue to be a bad joke until firms like Sony get busted in the monetary balls by way of lawsuits because their IT department wouldn't make a decent wart on a sysadmin's butt.

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    24. Re: America! by CaptainDork · · Score: 0

      I'm glad you opened that can of worms. Hollywood and TV studios ain't got no talented writers anymore.

      Annie is one example and, yeah, Hawaii 5-0 on steroids.

      Next, I guess we'll see, It's A Wonderful Life Transformer Terminator.

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    25. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they really want to make a point, they should release it online and on streaming services. FOR FREE.

      Get that shit out there EVERYWHERE.

    26. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Granted the sysadmins could do a better job but it is hard to defend against someone stealing a high level IT employees credentials. Credentials that basically provided access to everything. This wasn't some sophisticated hack it was a black bag job. It required boots on the ground just like the Stuxnet virus needed someone to sneaker net a thumb drive into the high security Iranian lab facility to kick things off. That kind of high risk access can only be provided by the governments in the world. Governments don't need to waste time and money creating sophisticated hacks or collect and process endless amounts of data they can easily suborn or plant an agent in any corporation in the world to do their bidding when called upon.

    27. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd imagine it's already available peer-to-peer.

      I've been thinking about this movie a lot lately. I probably will see it, at some point. But I got to wondering:

      What would OUR reaction be if North Korea released a movie which showed two goofballs assassinating our president? Would we complain about it?

      Or maybe Republicans show it as a feature at fundraisers?

    28. Re:America! by DexterIsADog · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I guess we should show we're not intimidated by North Korea. But really, corporations are.

      Although if a local theater showed The Interview as an act of defiance, I'd be torn about going to see it. The event could be fun, but on the other hand, I'd be watching yet another shitty Seth Rogen movie.

      Really, it'd be like going to see a comedian who's being threatened with arrest for obscenity, but instead of Lenny Bruce, it's Carrot Top.

    29. Re:America! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Butterscotch is terrible anyway, nothing of value would be lost.

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    30. Re:America! by aevan · · Score: 2

      Unless of course, this is going to be a shitty movie, and they are counting on a combination of Streisand Effect and patriotism to drum up sales.

    31. Re: America! by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is probably just a viral marketing campaign by Sony. They will release it in a month and 10x more people will go see it out of misguided patriotism and anti North Korean sentiment than would have otherwise

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    32. Re: America! by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Next, I guess we'll see, It's A Wonderful Life Transformer Terminator.

      "Every time a bell rings, I'll be back." *transforms into a pickup truck and drives through the wall*

    33. Re: America! by reve_etrange · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is probably just a viral marketing campaign by Sony.

      The sad thing is, it would actually be better that way.

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    34. Re: America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And this ploy includes "leaking" embarrasing emails slandering the US president and personal data of all employes?

    35. Re: America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This comment can only come from someone with a really fucking limited understanding of how the world works.

    36. Re: America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd pay to see it.

    37. Re:America! by Translation+Error · · Score: 1

      Actually, it was Paramount that pulled Team America.

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    38. Re:America! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think we should all boycott the movie to punish Sony for their inept handling of all of this, and the ridiculous publicity stunt that gives terrorists the idea that you can get notoriety by making companies cower instead of nations.

    39. Re:America! by MutualFun · · Score: 1

      Good luck eating butterscotch pudding after viewing that movie.

      Oh man, as they say in 'net parlance, I really did LOL at that comment! Never liked butterscotch pudding but now I can't stop thinking about it. Hosting my own "America, fuck yeah" party this weekend with a screening of the uncut Team America... all the raunch and none of the edits. Woohoo!

  2. What are they going to do? by khasim · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They're computer crackers. What are they going to do? Why all the fear?

    1. Re:What are they going to do? by Hussman32 · · Score: 2

      My guess is that the hackers have information that is far more damaging than what they've released so far (if that's possible). As far as why DVDs of TA are in trouble? No idea.

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    2. Re:What are they going to do? by Translation+Error · · Score: 5, Informative

      They're computer crackers. What are they going to do? Why all the fear?

      There's always been fear about the 'evil hackers' and the terrible, magical things they can do. From Wikipedia:

      Mitnick served five years in prison--four and a half years pre-trial and eight months in solitary confinement--because, according to Mitnick, law enforcement officials convinced a judge that he had the ability to "start a nuclear war by whistling into a pay phone", meaning that law enforcement told the judge that he could somehow dial into the NORAD modem via a payphone from prison and communicate with the modem by whistling to launch nuclear missiles.

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    3. Re:What are they going to do? by medv4380 · · Score: 2

      If they do they'll just release it later anyways.

    4. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      gfgf

    5. Re:What are they going to do? by bhcompy · · Score: 1

      Seriously. It's like Alan Cumming in Goldeneye. Yea, you're invincible, but you're not fucking scary. Here's a bomb in a fucking click-pen. Fucking die.

    6. Re:What are they going to do? by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      nobody cares about the hackers. it's the terrorist threats of "9/11-style" violence that have people freaked out.

    7. Re:What are they going to do? by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      Indeed. Of all the groups that make threats against the West, NK seems the one least likely to have the ability or desire to actually attack a Western target. I cannot imagine the fires of hell that would reign down on North Korea should it be demonstrated to be behind mass murders in the United States.

      It boggles my mind that anyone seriously believes North Korea is going to start mounting attacks on North American theaters should they screen this film.

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    8. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They're computer crackers. What are they going to do? Why all the fear?

      They are computer hackers that are part of the North Korean military. They are simply one component of that military. Another component of that military is their special forces troops which are highly trained in infiltration and sabotage. North Korea has an extraordinarily large number of special forces given the size of the country. They are also somewhat active in their infiltration of South Korea. They are also somewhat "driven", for example when a sub delivering them to South Korea ran aground the special forces executed the crew of the sub and ultimately died in gunfights with the South Korean military as they attempted to evade capture.

      Now is North Korea going to infiltrate saboteurs and such into the US, probably not. However North Korea also sells weapons to various terrorist groups. They might hire, or do a trade or otherwise fund, one of these groups to cause some havoc in the US.

      The basic idea being that we have a cult-of-personality based dictatorship that has advanced weapons, an unstable erratic nature and is perfectly willing to use violence to defend the honor of its cult leader. So its a little different than the kid in the basement looking for lulz.

    9. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is probably the books that show that the movies are profitable after all.
      They will never pay the employees what they do, never. They rather cave in to black mailers.

    10. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because one form of criminal can never have any ties to another form of criminal.

    11. Re:What are they going to do? by cheater512 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yep. Put 9/11 on anything and Americans freak out.

    12. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The basic idea being that we have a cult-of-personality based dictatorship that has advanced weapons, an unstable erratic nature and is perfectly willing to use violence to defend the honor of its cult leader.

      ...and then there's North Korea.

    13. Re:What are they going to do? by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Spottswoode: From what I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.N.C.E has gathered, it would be 9/11 times 100.
      Gary Johnston: 9/11 times a hundred? Jesus, that's...
      Spottswoode: Yes, 91,100.

    14. Re:What are they going to do? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Not that so much as being a hacker doesn't make you have magical powers.

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    15. Re:What are they going to do? by Hussman32 · · Score: 1

      I agree with the movie release freakout, but why would they shelve it completely (no DVD, VOD, etc.)? One person suggested insurance claims (I hadn't heard that prior to my earlier post).

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    16. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i didnt see anything from the hacking group that said "9/11" except the media reports themselves calling it "9/11-style" or "reminiscient of 9/11"

    17. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This!

      Why are we afraid of this people? It is obviously posturing on their part. The fact that everyone is wetting themselves over this just baffles me. Hell, who believes anything they they claim to be able to do, look up some of the crazy stuff they say about their fearless leaders. The funny part is I am betting that NK is even more surprised that we folded like this.

    18. Re:What are they going to do? by RyoShin · · Score: 1

      If 4chan can be hackers on steroids and blow up vans, then imagine what an entire country of hackers can do!

    19. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually it's 81,81818181818182

    20. Re:What are they going to do? by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      Presumably it takes more than 2 weeks to execute a DVDs or iTunes release. Nobody said they're going to burn all the copies.

    21. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This!

      Why are we afraid of this people? It is obviously posturing on their part. The fact that everyone is wetting themselves over this just baffles me. Hell, who believes anything they they claim to be able to do, look up some of the crazy stuff they say about their fearless leaders. The funny part is I am betting that NK is even more surprised that we folded like this.

      If the US Government has irrefutable evidence North Korea is behind the terrorist threats, drop a few nuclear warheads on Pyongyang with a barrage of Hellfire missiles taking out every government facility north of the DMZ. Send North Korea into the Stone Age and free the people from a tyrant. Well President Obama what are you going to do after these threats? Right. The threats are either fake, the evidence supporting the involvement of North Korea in the Sony Hack is non-existent, or Obama is a terrorist sympathiser along with Congress and Senate.

    22. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Let's see, they hack your computer, get your credit card information... including the secret one you use to pay for hotel tuesday afternoons when you fuck your mistress... so on and so forth. Everyone has a secret they fear getting out.

    23. Re: What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey it worked in Iraq, right?

      I bet it would take way less than a trillion dollars to get the same results. Let's do this!

    24. Re:What are they going to do? by psm321 · · Score: 2
      Umm, it's clearly in the text of the threat.

      We will clearly show it to you at the very time and places “The Interview” be shown, including the premiere, how bitter fate those who seek fun in terror should be doomed to.
      Soon all the world will see what an awful movie Sony Pictures Entertainment has made.
      The world will be full of fear.
      Remember the 11th of September 2001.
      We recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places at that time.
      (If your house is nearby, you’d better leave.)
      Whatever comes in the coming days is called by the greed of Sony Pictures Entertainment.
      All the world will denounce the SONY.

    25. Re:What are they going to do? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      They're not hackers. But they're script kiddies and they've seen the script of 'The Interview.' Clearly experts on scripts, they have a valid position on the matter.

    26. Re:What are they going to do? by Hussman32 · · Score: 1

      Right now, "officially," they will never release the movie. We'll see.

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    27. Re:What are they going to do? by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      How do you spell cult classic? #INTERVIEW

    28. Re:What are they going to do? by speedlaw · · Score: 1

      Which is why Sony bent over so fast. Not only do we have the "background" to the XX deal, but they know the Norks know who the mistress is, and who they buy blow from (the powder kind). Faced with that sort of exposure....

    29. Re:What are they going to do? by DexterIsADog · · Score: 1

      How do you spell cult classic? #INTERVIEW

      Cult classics are usually good movies (Big Lebowski), or really bad movies (Plan 9 From Outer Space).

      Since this is just another shitty Seth Rogen movie, it will likely just be some odd historical footnote, perhaps identified by future scholars as the point where America lost its balls.

    30. Re:What are they going to do? by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      dr doolittle 2 is a cult classic, even though there are many eddie murphy movies.

    31. Re:What are they going to do? by Sardaukar86 · · Score: 1

      Looks like spottswoode is some faggy yourowpeeing.

      Clearly. Especially so when compared to the average North American who is of course manly, buff and (like, totally) heroic.

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    32. Re:What are they going to do? by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      What are they going to do? Why all the fear?

      Team America 2: Just a Bunch of Pussies

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    33. Re:What are they going to do? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      Yes, because the terrifying North Korean hit squads will nuke the theatre in Whitefish, Montana as soon as the movie starts. They will also hit every other theatre in the US at the same time. Since there are maybe two movie theaters in all of PRNK, they probably think it's the same here.

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    34. Re:What are they going to do? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

      It boggles my mind that anyone seriously believes North Korea is going to start mounting attacks on North American theaters should they screen this film.

      As I said in the other thread, I suspect what NK has done is threaten harm to the families of the Sony execs and the movie chain execs.

      That's likely all it would take: "Show this movie and I'll kill your children."

      The "attack the theaters" response is just a smokescreen against what has really been threatened.

    35. Re:What are they going to do? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

      Sigh.

      You can't nuke North Korea or Kim Jong-Un's BIG brother would retaliate: China.

      China could retaliate either militarily (unlikely) or economically (very possible). In either case, the result would be devastating the the USA.

      NK exists at the behest of China, pure and simple.

    36. Re:What are they going to do? by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Looks like spottswoode is some faggy yourowpeeing.

      Spottswoode: This isn't about sex, Anonymous Coward, it's about trust!

    37. Re:What are they going to do? by jafiwam · · Score: 1

      nobody cares about the hackers. it's the terrorist threats of "9/11-style" violence that have people freaked out.

      It will be 911 times 2356?

    38. Re:What are they going to do? by psm321 · · Score: 1

      Oh, I wasn't claiming the threat was credible or the reaction warranted (I don't believe either), just countering the assertion that the hackers hadn't invoked 9/11.

    39. Re:What are they going to do? by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      "9/11 Part II: Ho Ho Ho Muthafucka" opening on Christmas day in a theater near you.

    40. Re:What are they going to do? by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      Good thing the attack wasn't in July, or we'd have no place to get a Slurpee(tm)!

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    41. Re:What are they going to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought 9/11 times 100 would be 81.818181818181818181818181818182.

  3. And yet again terrorism wins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm so glad we have all of these draconian spy laws to invade every part of American citizens' lives while our corporate and government overlords continue to fold to terrorism without any resistance at all. I'm going to watch my copy of Team America on Dec 27th and good fucking luck to North Korea to stop me.

    1. Re:And yet again terrorism wins by DaHat · · Score: 2

      You are forgetting the implications of tort law.

      Even if a physical attack is very unlikely, the costs of the lawsuits which would occurs afterwards would make proceeding a rather risky thing either way.

      Don't believe me? The lawsuit against the theater which didn't prevent the Aurora theater shooting continues: http://deadline.com/2014/08/ci...

    2. Re:And yet again terrorism wins by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      You are forgetting the implications of tort law.

      Even if a physical attack is very unlikely, the costs of the lawsuits which would occurs afterwards would make proceeding a rather risky thing either way.

      Don't believe me? The lawsuit against the theater which didn't prevent the Aurora theater shooting continues: http://deadline.com/2014/08/ci...

      I was thinking about this the other day. I tend to wonder if it would make sense to completely immunize companies from lawsuits over failure to provide adequate steps to prevent a terrorist and state-sponsored attacks as long as they comply with any direct government instructions and regulations. Victims of these attacks would be compensated by the government, which would be responsible for providing security.

      The alternative is nonsense like this.

      Companies should only be required to provide security to the extent that it is required by law. By all means pass laws like "you must have a state-certified security guard for every 300 people present on your property" or something like that, and then big venues would have to comply.

      If Canada dropped 100 paratroopers on a hockey game and they proceeded to shoot up the place, would it make sense to hold the stadium responsible for failing to repel the attack? I don't see how terrorist attacks are any different, or how having warning makes a difference either. That just allows any nation to basically shut down operations in any other nation by making an idle threat. If the US threatened to bomb the next Olympics and did so, would it make sense to make any store in Rio de Janeiro liable if they stayed open?

      If North Korea wants to threaten moviegoers they can publicize their threats themselves, and receive international condemnation in the process. If they just make semi-anonymous threats to the studio the studio should be under no obligation to publicize them, and face no liability if they choose to not do so. Moviegoers could then decide whether to stay away from the movies or not. This would actually deter attacks since the warning would probably have move of the desired effect than an actual bombing, but being forced to publicize the warning since nobody else would do it for them would hurt them. If they just sent a private warning that nobody heard and then bombed a theater, it would completely enrage the public and could very well lead to war.

      If the original hack was state-sponsored (which I'm not convinced is the case, but I don't have access to the data), it will be interest to see what the response is. I saw some calling for a response of hacking the computers that were used in the attack, which would be completely pointless. First, being military in nature they're going to be very difficult to target at all, and they're almost certainly going to be backed up with the important stuff off-grid. Besides, the US has had no issues with mounting offensive cyber-war in the past, so to whatever extent that they can penetrate KP systems they're probably already doing it. KP is already under just about every sanction imaginable.

      It seems like the only avenues of escalation would be along the lines of:
      1. Ask China nicely to punish them.
      2. Try to force China to punish them (likely via economic measures).
      3. Ask the world (including China) to cooperate in some kind of firewall for nations that don't take hacking seriously. I could see this being some kind of treaty - signatories would grant/receive unfettered access to each other's networks. Non-signatures would be firewalled off (maybe force everything through an http+smtp proxy or the like). This would make network access a little more like other forms of border control.
      4. Ask the UN's blessing on some kind of military action. (This obviously requires Chinese cooperation, but might be a way for them to save face - they would not actively support punishing No

    3. Re:And yet again terrorism wins by Jon_S · · Score: 1

      I was thinking about this the other day. I tend to wonder if it would make sense to completely immunize companies from lawsuits over failure to provide adequate steps to prevent a terrorist and state-sponsored attacks as long as they comply with any direct government instructions and regulations.

      The US used to do something like this, specifically cover insurance over a specific (high) limit in the case of a terrorist attack. But it was just killed by a single republican member in Congress: Congressional Roadblock Upends Market for Terrorism Insurance even after it was passed 93-4 by the Senate and 417-7 in the house.

    4. Re:And yet again terrorism wins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good. That's stupid. The government doesn't need to cover insurance. The Courts just need to a acknowledge that not defending against a terrorist act isn't something that creates a negligent liability for a venue. Covering insurance implies the venue does share in the negligence.

  4. Model Move by magusxxx · · Score: 4, Funny

    If there was ever a time to re-release Zoolander, it's now!

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    Care killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
  5. If you want a copy... by wolfman_jake · · Score: 5, Funny

    It shouldn't be to difficult to get one, I hear Sony's security isn't the best.

  6. Alternative #3 by LesPeters · · Score: 3

    Perhaps a screening of the final episode of "M*A*S*H"?

    1. Re: Alternative #3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Show the original MASH movie. It is worth watching.

  7. Why? by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

    I don't understand why it would draw any heat at all.

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    Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
    1. Re:Why? by hondo77 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      The same reason conservative members of Congress don't want to close Gitmo and transfer the prisoners to the mainland: 'murica wants to confront, fight, and destroy terrorism...somewhere else but not here.

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      I live ze unknown. I love ze unknown. I am ze unknown.
    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure why, let the terrorists come here, there's a reason only a few countries have ever tried to wage war on American soil part of it's the vast oceans surrounding it part is the citizens with pitchforks and military grade weaponry.
       
      As much as I've heard "think of terrorism", I'd sure as hell like to get a few in my sights. First on the agenda for captured Muslim terrorist, force them to consume pork!

    3. Re:Why? by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      The reason only a few countries have ever tried to wage war on American soil is because we have very few people of your mentality and stuff.

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      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
  8. BE VEWY VEWY AFWAYED AWEC BOWDWIN!!! :) by spads · · Score: 1

    Damn, that thing's just down the street. PARTY TIME!!!!! :P

    --
    Bukowski said it. I believe it. That settles it.
  9. Pitiful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    I loathe the politically correct decision makers. They are ruining America and other places, too. People don't have a right not not be offended, the Supreme Court has opined, so let's just do what we want. If you're offended, be offended, but have enough human decency and common sense to understand that not everyone feels the same way you do. Live and let live. As long as no one is touch you physically, stealing your property, or preventing you from pursuing freedom and happiness, go your merry and let others do the same.

    I would not have pulled the movies. Those asshats would have done nothing. It's already on the InterWebs and just a matter of time before it's everywhere. Failing to act because you are threatened = cowardice. Full stop. I once had a new bully threaten me one day at school years ago. He said if you show up to the dance, I will pummel you. I showed up. He attempted to fight me and I cratered him, despite his size and strength with overwhelming violence of action. He didn't suspect it from a nerdy kid with glasses. Never bow to terroristic threats, ever. To do so means you have negotiated with fear -- and lost.

    1. Re:Pitiful by Fwipp · · Score: 1

      Cool story Ender.

    2. Re:Pitiful by leftover · · Score: 1

      This, exactly. And well said Sir or Madame. (having known a nerdy girl with black belt) Political correctness is bullying, no less and no more, and bullies make such satisfying noises when they hit the ground.

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      Bent, folded, spindled, and mutilated.
    3. Re:Pitiful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You hit the nail on the head. Now, all the bad guys know that they can make a threat, maybe act on it, and they will get their way, just like a schoolyard bully makes a threat, maybe does a threatening gesture or a quick shove to prove a point. Facing the bully, he realizes the actions don't go anywhere. Not attending the dance just emboldens the bully, so next time, he will demand the parent not attend school or else.

      Now, that the bad guys [1], be it foreign interests, religious extremists, or just some kid who doesn't want to go take a midterm. They all know that companies will cave in to threats now. It means now that the bad guys will start stepping up to try to put action to their threats to leapfrog the last guy.

      Were it me, I'd not have pulled the movies. In fact, I'd have at least a week where the screening was free. If the DPRK did try to attack a movie theater, there is this little thing called an act of war, and I'm sure there are plenty of plans and scenarios drawn up to finally swat that fly.

      Yet again, we see Chamberlain tactics of appeasement. Do they work? Short term, yes. Long term, there is always Hell to pay... and I mean Hell.

      [1]: I hate the word terrorist. Means nothing these days.

    4. Re:Pitiful by CaseCrash · · Score: 1

      It's already on the InterWebs and just a matter of time before it's everywhere.

      Except that it's not on the torrents yet:

      http://www.vocativ.com/culture/tvmovies/anyone-finds-legit-torrent-interview-hit-us/

      http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Interview-Torrent-Downloads-Exist-but-They-re-Not-What-You-d-Expect-467819.shtml

      The only people we know for sure who have the movie are Sony (who aren't releasing it) and the hackers (who definitely aren't releasing it)

      --
      No, that link you posted to a web comic we've all seen a hundred times is not "obligatory."
    5. Re:Pitiful by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      I would venture to say the movie does not exist! And finally, movie critics have an effective way of keeping crappy movies out of the theaters. Let's watch how DVD sales go. It will be very short, like a.. uh... spurt... and then you want a cigarette.

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    6. Re:Pitiful by MightyMartian · · Score: 0

      Thank goodness a movie like Life of Brian wasn't released in these knee-trembling times.

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      The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
    7. Re:Pitiful by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      I would not have pulled the movies. Those asshats would have done nothing.

      So if you were an exec at Sony and you got an email that proved it was from the NK hackers that said "If you show this movie I'll kill your children," and it included pics of your kids coming and going from school, would you still release the movie? I strongly suspect that's what has happened here.

    8. Re:Pitiful by Culture20 · · Score: 2

      Who would have opposed it? The Judean People's Front?

    9. Re:Pitiful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corporations will always bend over backwards for the cop lobby. The careerists of the International Union of Police, of which the American Police are a subsidiary branch, have been working together towards this dream of complete unification and control for more than a century.

      Criticism shall be construed as slander of which opposing opinions interfering with their internal processes will be referred to as talking in terroristic ways.

      Next up: International company prison camps for the 100 million americans with any type of criminal record. With only 100 million more adults to go before no one will be free to speak due to their "background, your grandchildren will be around to experience disbelief that there was once such a time as this.

    10. Re:Pitiful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Splitters!

  10. OH SHWAT! I THOUGHT THE were HAVING IT!!! :( by spads · · Score: 1

    afasda

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    Bukowski said it. I believe it. That settles it.
  11. Other films cancelled. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    mrs doubtfire: showing cancelled due to creaking theater entrance that sounded like a terrorist attack (even though keith said he closed it quietly)
    saving private ryan: cancelled immediately after theater realized the entire film involved the concept of war, which was like terror but with more rock music
    Batman: dark knight rises cancelled, banes coat reminded an elderly woman of an episode of mash. Dark knight cancelled by studio confused and frightened about 'unstoppable forces' and 'immoveable objects.' Batman & Robin cancelled by studio executive who simply found the nipples and codpieces too uncomfortable.
    hot tub time machine: violates numerous causality laws and in the spirit of preserving much of our modern understanding of thermodynamics, has been cancelled by a studio that mistook the word 'causality' for 'terrorist'

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    1. Re:Other films cancelled. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hot tub time machine . . . cancelled

      So some good came out of this mess.

    2. Re:Other films cancelled. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      hot tub time machine was cancelled because watching it is torture.

    3. Re:Other films cancelled. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's too bad. I was hoping to preserve my freedoms and liberties and country by watching some crappy hollywood movie.

      There are people actually making posts just like this. Not sure if they are serious or not.

    4. Re:Other films cancelled. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this is the U.S. We love torture here. It's possibly North Korea-associated script kitties that terrify us.

    5. Re:Other films cancelled. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Seriously, I waterboarded myself 5 minutes in just so I could have an excuse to stop watching.

    6. Re:Other films cancelled. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With dyslexia, spelling is always the first causality.

    7. Re:Other films cancelled. by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      hot tub time machine: violates numerous causality laws and in the spirit of preserving much of our modern understanding of thermodynamics, has been cancelled by a studio that mistook the word 'causality' for 'terrorist'

      I don't know about this one, seems like the phrase "violates numerous terrorists" would get the studios pretty excited...

    8. Re:Other films cancelled. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      saving private ryan: cancelled immediately after theater realized the entire film involved the concept of war, which was like terror but with more rock music

      I prefer the pr0n remake, Shaving Ryan's Privates.

  12. Sounds familiar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All your movies are belong to us!

  13. For Onry the Ronery by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There will be a simultaneous viewing/tweeting of Team America at 2100 (9PM) EST on Friday, for you Twitter mongers.

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    Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
    1. Re:For Onry the Ronery by davester666 · · Score: 1

      On twitter? what do you do, refresh the page 30 times/second for 2 hours?

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    2. Re:For Onry the Ronery by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      No, you follow the hash tag, and click on the new tweets link. It's all AJAX these days. Great time.

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      Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
  14. Those responsible have been sacked by flink · · Score: 5, Funny

    We regret the inconvenience. The move that was to replace the move that has been yanked, has been yanked. Those responsible for sacking the ones responsible for yanking the movie to replace the yanked movie wish you to know that they have been sacked.

    1. Re:Those responsible have been sacked by pla · · Score: 4, Funny

      A m00se once bit my sister... No realli!

    2. Re:Those responsible have been sacked by DRJlaw · · Score: 1

      A m00se once bit my sister... No realli!

      A m00se? Or some other J0ng-un-gulate?

    3. Re:Those responsible have been sacked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 The Larch

    4. Re:Those responsible have been sacked by MutualFun · · Score: 1

      A m00se once bit my sister... No realli!

      You forgot: "Signed RICHARD M. NIXON Including the majestik møøse"

  15. Amazing PR! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sony is pulling the most elaborate and effective promotion of their film ever!

    Who knows, maybe this is all a big hoax? But likely just really good crisis management, creating immense interest in their movies.

    1. Re:Amazing PR! by Chalnoth · · Score: 1

      It is pretty great PR. But unfortunately it seems to be a pretty crappy movie, which blunts my enthusiasm for watching it.

  16. Is CollegeHumor Next. by Deathlizard · · Score: 2

    I'm sure the DPRK isn't too happy about this Series.

  17. Home of the Brave by organgtool · · Score: 2

    I can only imagine what is going through the minds of WWII vets who put their lives on the line to defend this country just to watch it devolve into a bunch of cowardly sissies.

    1. Re:Home of the Brave by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      I can imagine what is going through the heads of many Korean War vets, that MacArthur should have been allowed to march right into Manchuria.

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      The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
    2. Re:Home of the Brave by cheesybagel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So you think he wouldn't have lost a land battle in China? Why do you think he came back crying like a baby to the US President that they needed to nuke Beijing and Moscow? The whole idea was ludicrous. The Soviet Union had tested their own nuclear weapons before the Korean War started.

      I usually prefer calling the Korean War WWIII to put it into proper perspective.

    3. Re:Home of the Brave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can tell you
       
      "I fought in a war for my country to raise a bunch of pussies!"

    4. Re: Home of the Brave by dr.newton · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      Never get involved in a land war in Asia.

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      Just another proletarian malcontent.
    5. Re:Home of the Brave by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      They are thinking that Sony makes a lot of fucking money and should have spent some of it making goddam sure only need-to-know people had root access and that the IT department was staffed by competent, enabled people, and they are thinking this is not a freedom of speech issue, rather it's a Darwinistic weeding of crappy-ass naive corporate assholes and stuff.

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      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
  18. Please use better phrases... by Kaldaien · · Score: 2

    Between "post-hack yanking" and "Don't jerk and drive", I'm losing my mind reading news stores.

  19. How about the 2012 Red Dawn showing? by mlts · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds like the Alamo Drafthouse needs to show the 2012 remake of Red Dawn...

    1. Re:How about the 2012 Red Dawn showing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I certainly support your "fuck you Kim Jong Un" perspective but good grief that movie was awful dogshit.

    2. Re:How about the 2012 Red Dawn showing? by mlts · · Score: 2

      The movie might not be the greatest, but maybe a random drawing for gift cards for LG and Samsung products might help as well.

      Good kimchi on the house wouldn't hurt either.

    3. Re:How about the 2012 Red Dawn showing? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      This isn't Alamo Drafthouse's fault. Paramount chickened out.

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      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    4. Re:How about the 2012 Red Dawn showing? by sjames · · Score: 1

      During intermission, they can lead the audience in the chicken dance.

    5. Re:How about the 2012 Red Dawn showing? by Pumpkin+Tuna · · Score: 1

      I'm all for free speech, but forcing someone to watch that may be taking it a bit too far.

    6. Re:How about the 2012 Red Dawn showing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I heard it wasn't too bad but the invasion made no sense.... and, in light of current events, its ironic that the studio/producers of that movie chose North Korea over the original script's China to avoild diplomatic/political turmoil.

  20. I called it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A few days ago I mentioned this is turning out to be the best publicity every for Sony and to rush out and buy stock because if the movie ever does get released everyone will go see it.

  21. So, we're giving in to terror demands now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are ordered to transfer $1m into my bank account or I'll <description of violent act redacted so I'm not prosecuted by UK anti-terror laws>

    1. Re:So, we're giving in to terror demands now? by ShaunC · · Score: 1

      <description of violent act redacted so I'm not prosecuted by UK anti-terror laws>

      Face-sitting?

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      Thanks to the War on Drugs, it's easier to buy meth than it is to buy cold medicine!
  22. Texas even? by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    I know we're screwed when even Texas is cowering to this crap. Do they think North Korea is going to hack their guns or something?

    1. Re:Texas even? by nytes · · Score: 2

      Actually, it is reportedly Paramount that forbade the public showing of the movie.

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      -- I have monkeys in my pants.
    2. Re:Texas even? by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 1

      Are Paramount not too sure about their IT security then?

    3. Re:Texas even? by nytes · · Score: 1

      Before Sony canceled the release, George Clooney circulated a petition around the Hollywood studios expressing support for Sony in their determination to release "The Interview". He couldn't get a single signature.

      So, yeah, I think everyone in Hollywood is afraid of putting a target on their own backs right now, and no one is certain about their IT security.

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      -- I have monkeys in my pants.
  23. We're turning into wimps by MetricT · · Score: 4, Informative

    The United States has the planet's largest ocean between us and North Korea, the most powerful military the world has ever seen, and enough nuclear firepower to take the entire surface area of North Korea and give it escape velocity. And yet we wimp out on... showinging a 10-year old movie because it might make a tin-plate dictator mad? Seriously?

    1. Re:We're turning into wimps by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      North Korea really hasn't even proven it has a missile that reliably reach Japan. The country is a total basket case run by a violent, completely detached dynasty. It represents a significant regional threat, but if it were to ever do anything truly belligerent, China would yank support and the regime would collapse.

      That, to my mind, is the chief threat of North Korea, that when the Kims finally do lose grip, the regime's collapse will be violent for North Koreans and their neighbors.

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    2. Re:We're turning into wimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, I want to send tampons to the Sony execs and tell em to plug their pussies and show the films.
       
      Not that I'd go see it.

    3. Re:We're turning into wimps by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The chief threat of North Korea is that when it collapses, China will be flooded with North Korean refugees.

      That is the reason China supports the Kim regime.

    4. Re:We're turning into wimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always wonder why China hasn't built a wall mounted with machine gun turrets near the North Korean border. China sure as hell doesn't care about its human rights violations.

    5. Re:We're turning into wimps by rocket+rancher · · Score: 1

      The United States has the planet's largest ocean between us and North Korea, the most powerful military the world has ever seen, and enough nuclear firepower to take the entire surface area of North Korea and give it escape velocity. And yet we wimp out on... showinging a 10-year old movie because it might make a tin-plate dictator mad? Seriously?

      well, that is the problem with dealing with dictators. He may not be able to give any of our real estate "escape velocity," but he doesn't need to. He just needs to kill half a dozen theater goers in any movie theater anywhere on the planet that defies his edict. Fox News will makes sure the rest of the planet hears about it, and suddenly he goes from dismissable loon to credible threat, which is exactly what he (and his equally lunatic father before him) have wanted all along.

  24. We need your kind for a mission by __aanbvm4272 · · Score: 2

    Sign up for duty then if yer so gung ho. Now you know how they get soldiers... Wise up and ignore the propaganda, son.

  25. Oh! Who can help us now?? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    The REAL Team America!

    Cheney/Nugent 2016!

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    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    1. Re:Oh! Who can help us now?? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      The REAL Team America!

      Cheney/Nugent 2016!

      The Chickenhawk Coward ticket?

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    2. Re:Oh! Who can help us now?? by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      They got the numbers. It wouldn't take much of a push. These two are a gift! Bigger than a Reagan revival

      Remember, to the coward and the timid, they look like heroes, taking action!

      The slogan is unbeatable: 'I would do it again in it a minute' That is exactly what people want to hear.

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    3. Re:Oh! Who can help us now?? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Of course the slogan writers would have proof readers...

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  26. You Can Watch the Interview! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They should run a protest viewing of the Hugo Weaving film "The Interview" instead.
    I'm pretty sure it is a better film than the Seth Rogen one anyway.
    Yes, I've seen it. It is top notch.

  27. Texas theater running "TA" by SternisheFan · · Score: 1
    Instead of "The Interview", a theater in Texas has decided to show "Team America" instead....

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.c...

    1. Re:Texas theater running "TA" by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Related news from The Telegraph (I know...)

      Sony hack: Obama considers 'proportional response' against North Korea

      The White House calls the hacking of the Sony studio a "serious national security matter," while Hollywood stars compare cancellation of The Interview to Neville Chamberlain's'appeasement of Adolf Hitler and a second film called Pyongyang is also pulled.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...

    2. Re:Texas theater running "TA" by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Did you read the headline?

      "Team America" Gets Post-Hack Yanking At Alamo Drafthouse, Too

      And from your link:

      Update: On Thursday, multiple theaters, including the Alamo Drafthouse in Dallas/Fort Worth, stated that screenings of Team America have been canceled.

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    3. Re:Texas theater running "TA" by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      Did you read the headline?

      "Team America" Gets Post-Hack Yanking At Alamo Drafthouse, Too

      And from your link:

      Update: On Thursday, multiple theaters, including the Alamo Drafthouse in Dallas/Fort Worth, stated that screenings of Team America have been canceled.

      I would guess not. (posted from a phone on a work break) I thought Texas was supposed to be a state that had balls. Guess not.

    4. Re:Texas theater running "TA" by Tapewolf · · Score: 1

      I would guess not. (posted from a phone on a work break) I thought Texas was supposed to be a state that had balls. Guess not.

      IIRC, digital projectors have to talk to an authentication server to decrypt the movie. If Paramount disable that, you're not going to be able to show it, balls or otherwise.

    5. Re:Texas theater running "TA" by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Informative
      You're correct, it's Paramount that has no balls.

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/c...

  28. Re:Please Don't Go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's a movie. If we want to see it then let us see it. If you don't like Sony then that's your problem.

  29. Not the Drafthouse fault. by sconeu · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Nerdist blames Paramount.

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    General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
  30. Stream the movies to NK by Krojack · · Score: 1

    Put a DVD copy of the movies in a satellite, launch it and beam the movies down to NK in every electronic format possible from AM radio to HD. Put the movies on loop and hit play.

    1. Re:Stream the movies to NK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Won't work. Even the 'radios' in NK are land-line.

    2. Re:Stream the movies to NK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah yeah cos that's the _one_ reason that won't work. 6 digit uid: shame shame we know your name

  31. Cowards by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe we shouldn't turn chicken every time some worthless sociopath threatens violence.

    1. Re:Cowards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean when Dick Cheney claims OMG BOMBS, we shouldn't go along with whatever he says?

  32. Here Ya Go by carrier+lost · · Score: 1

    If only I had a copy, I'd like to host a viewing party here in Austin for The Interview, which I want to see now more than ever.

    https://archive.org/details/TE...

  33. D'oh! by carrier+lost · · Score: 2

    Wrong movie - hit send way too fast that time.

    1. Re:D'oh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks right to me.. but how is a movie like that on archive.org??

    2. Re:D'oh! by carrier+lost · · Score: 1

      I know, it's confusing

      Here's the quote I was responding to:

      "due to circumstances beyond our control,â their Dec. 27 Team America screening has also been canceled." If only I had a copy, I'd like to host a viewing party here in Austin for The Interview , which I want to see now more than ever.

      About Team America, I can only guess that the Southpark people are not that big on copyright

  34. Jast sayin' by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1
    I got the closing theme song from Robot chicken running through my head.

    My bucket list includes seeing the movie that has America, land of the free and home of the brave, cowering like a paranoid yuppie housewife in the corner of her safe room in her gated neighborhood protected by her ADT security system because she heard there were some brown people around.

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    The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  35. Where are all the "stolen" movies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They aren't on usenet or torrents from what I can tell. I think this whole incident is just a publicity stunt.

  36. It is all a misunderstanding ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They thought it was a porno as they were told the theater would be full of mukin pussies.

  37. Neville Chamberlin was not available for comment. by jcr · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Seems to me that complying with the demands of a dictatorship is an ill-advised policy.

    -jcr

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    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  38. Thanks Obama! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See title.

  39. ***YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WIMPS ALL ALONG !!*** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're turning into wimps

    While you guys staying inside America have been imagining yourself as having courage, sorry to break it to ya, to those of us outside looking in, you guys HAVE BEEN WIMPS ALL ALONG

    1. Re:***YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WIMPS ALL ALONG !!*** by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Said some kid in a poli-sci class.

  40. The way I heard it --- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Truman Show is an allegory about North Korea.

    1. Re:The way I heard it --- by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      I take Clariton® when my allegories act up.

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      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
    2. Re:The way I heard it --- by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Didn't AlleGory do the Inconvenient Truth gig?

      [I got a million of 'em]

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      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
  41. It Almost Makes Sense by organgtool · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find it funny that a movie that is a social commentary on how America does whatever it wants with complete disregard for the consequences of its actions on anyone else in the world is being pulled because a few people in a country that we don't even like are upset. I guess it's appropriate since the themes of the movie apparently aren't as relevant today.

    1. Re:It Almost Makes Sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it funny that a movie that is a social commentary on how America does whatever it wants with complete disregard for the consequences of its actions on anyone else in the world is being pulled because a few people in a country that we don't even like are upset. I guess it's appropriate since the themes of the movie apparently aren't as relevant today.

      No. The US is manic depressive. It fights wars it thinks it can win, but it massively overreacts to threats in either (1) launching wars or (2) retracting in cowardice. The whole post-9/11 era has been marked with plenty of that. It comes down to too many Americans who see the rest of the world as a place to be destroyed if it saves but one American life. Because Americans are the chosen people.

      PS - Not all of us are pricks like that. It's just that the net effect of actions and attitudes presented appear that way.

    2. Re:It Almost Makes Sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but those few people have terabytes of material on you that could be rather incriminating. Think about all the dirty laundry about Hollywood accounting, RIAA/MPAA antics, political connections, and who knows what else that Sony (and probably Paramount) have information on or been a party to. What if that got released? Yes, this is blackmail, but if Sony is willing to take a $100M hit (based on some reported estimates), what damage to Sony, Sony execs and who knows who else could be wrought by this?

      I think that not only are they afraid, but legitimately afraid.

    3. Re:It Almost Makes Sense by jandersen · · Score: 1

      I find it funny ...

      I find it stupid. My problem is, I can't quite figure out who is being stupid here, except that it doesn't seem to have much to do with N Korea, if I'm any judge. They may be idiots, but they have been clever enough to hold on to power for decades in the most astonishingly ridiculous circumstances - a bit like the goings-on in the declining Roman empire. But it clearly doesn't add up, the idea that North Korea are somehow able to threaten the US into submission. I would be very interested in knowing the actual truth of the matter.

  42. Responce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sony should take a three step response:
      1. Release the movie into the wild. Invite anyone and everyone to download view and disseminate it as far as possible.
      2. Offer a large bounty to any person or group that can conclusively track the hackers down.
      3. Offer a bounty to the person or group that inflicts the most digital damage to the hackers.

              Kind of a wanted dead or alive approach.

  43. Re:Neville Chamberlin was not available for commen by myowntrueself · · Score: 3, Insightful

    what a lot of people don't realise is that after he came back from placating hitler he increased military spending significantly. If not for him, when war broke out Britain would have been squashed.

    This is whats called 'international diplomacy' and was actually pretty masterful; he delayed the start of the war and ensured that Britain was prepared for it.

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  44. Re:Neville Chamberlin was not available for commen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Precisely!

  45. Maybe they could re-shoot it, varying the script - by timothy · · Score: 0

    - so that it's set in Cuba instead.

    (I am not kidding. In fact, call it THE INTERVIEW II: HAVANA GILA MONSTER" and make frequent in-joke references to the previous one, even though -- especially because! -- nearly no one has seen it.)

    But this time, assassinate Castro, instead.

     

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  46. Re:Neville Chamberlin was not available for commen by Rei · · Score: 2

    Germany was spending far more on their military during that time than Britain was. If Britain and France had stepped in earlier, Germany would have been totally unprepared and the war would have ended quickly. Not to mention all of the horrors of the Holocaust that would have been prevented.

    If Britain and France had managed to delay the war to "prepare" even more, say a few years, the Luftwaffe would have been dominated by jets, German ballistic missiles would have been longer range and more precise, and they might even have become a nuclear power. I really don't think this is the analogy you're looking for.

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  47. I present you... by arielCo · · Score: 2
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  48. Misplaced FUD by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 2

    Here's my theory: Sony was worried that some crazy person is going to batcrap crazy in one of these theaters think that North Korea has sympathizers like ISIS does. The two are not synonymous. You don't see people running around saying that North Korea is regime of peace and North Korea hates us because we stole their oil. By the same token, nobody in Hollywood got all first amendment defensive about the guy who made Innocence of Muslims and wound up in jail (how convenient). Further, nobody in Hollywood decided to close theaters when Dinesh D'Souza came out with multiple movies that some might say would motivate Tea Partiers to do what the left keeps trying to b.s. everyone into believing that they do. Bottom line: Hollywood is a cesspool of hypocrisy.

    1. Re:Misplaced FUD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sony are terrified the accounting information will be leaked. No one cares about the movies, but the execs will do anything to stop "Hollywood Accounting" come to light with real data, and not closed envelopes in court cases that 100% settle.

  49. is there a single person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in a position of power in the USA who isn't a freedom-hating authoritarian with a subhuman IQ?

  50. Torrent-release now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only result which makes sense is to leak the film. Torrent it, because Sony has already written it off, after going down on Kim Whatever.

    Streisand Effect.

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  51. because the lawyers ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I betcha it's Sony's corporate attorneys.

    They are telling management that if the film is released and someone somewhere shoots anyone near a theater a theater showing "The Interview" and the shooter mentions North Korea, then Sony would be liable to the victim and victims family because Sony either knew or should have known that the controversy caused by the movie would excite DPRK loyalists into committing such an act of violence.

    And they would be correct. If someone did get shot under those circumstances, almost any attorney in the US would accept filing the suit against Sony for just that reason.

    1. Re:because the lawyers ... by SethJohnson · · Score: 2

      ....then Sony would be liable to the victim and victims family because Sony either knew or should have known that the controversy caused by the movie would excite DPRK loyalists into committing such an act of violence.

      And that lawsuit would be gently brushed aside by Sony's legal team. Heck, they'd probably send in their youngest intern to handle the distraction.

      In 1952: "The Court reverses its position on movies in Burstyn v. Wilson, asserting that "liberty of expression by means of motion pictures is guaranteed by the 1st and 14th Amendments."(citation)

      The reason the Interview was pulled out of theaters is because the distributors didn't want to see the lucrative Christmas boxoffice affected by people avoiding theaters due to these threats. Annie and Night at the Museum are expected to sell far more tickets than the Interview and the theater chains didn't want to see those profits reduced. As for why Paramount prohibited these screenings of Team America, well, they're probably worried they'll fall into North Korea's crosshairs and get hacked, etc. Damn cowards.

    2. Re:because the lawyers ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....then Sony would be liable to the victim and victims family because Sony either knew or should have known that the controversy caused by the movie would excite DPRK loyalists into committing such an act of violence.

      And that lawsuit would be gently brushed aside by Sony's legal team. Heck, they'd probably send in their youngest intern to handle the distraction.

      In 1952: "The Court reverses its position on movies in Burstyn v. Wilson, asserting that "liberty of expression by means of motion pictures is guaranteed by the 1st and 14th Amendments."(citation)

      The reason the Interview was pulled out of theaters is because the distributors didn't want to see the lucrative Christmas boxoffice affected by people avoiding theaters due to these threats. Annie and Night at the Museum are expected to sell far more tickets than the Interview and the theater chains didn't want to see those profits reduced. As for why Paramount prohibited these screenings of Team America, well, they're probably worried they'll fall into North Korea's crosshairs and get hacked, etc. Damn cowards.

      If they're pulling The Interview to increase profits, then it's just common sense and the executives are doing their jobs correctly.
      Your reasoning for pulling The Interview applies equally to showing Team America, if you think about it.
      And, I'm willing to bet a beer that you are correct.
      But I disagree that bravery/cowardly enters into it in any way.

    3. Re:because the lawyers ... by SethJohnson · · Score: 1

      Your reasoning for pulling The Interview applies equally to showing Team America, if you think about it.

      The difference here is that The Interview was dumped national theater chains. In the case of Team America, a few independent chains were trying to screen the film and Paramount refused. In the case of the independent theaters, Paramount was not afraid that screening Team America would impact their profits for other films opening this weekend.

  52. Dumb and Dumber by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

    How do we have to threaten to get all of these movies nuked?

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  53. sony should give it away for free by winksmith · · Score: 1

    sony should give it away for free to make every american gets a chance to watch it away from mass groupings of people.

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  54. How did we get this far by Snufu · · Score: 1

    into the thread with no mention of Hans Brix?

  55. Re:Neville Chamberlin was not available for commen by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

    They would never have stepped in earlier because they were happy with Hitler being a staunch anticommunist.

    This is also why WW2 went on for so long - the allied waited out for Nazi Germany and USSR to destroy each other and only opened the Western front when it was clear that USSR would stay

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  56. Not to mention... by wiredog · · Score: 1

    The Korean War vets.

  57. The real problem here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone seems to think this about Sony caving to "the terrorists" but that's not really the case.
    This is about "the lawyers".
    How so?

    Movie release threatened by 'the terrorists"
    Sony releases movie anyway
    Some American goes to see movie and trips on loose floorboard and breaks leg
    American thinks"Oh Noes "the terrorists" loosened that floorboard and made me fall"
    American hires "the lawyers" to sue Sony for being so irresponsible to release movie when "the terrorists" where making threats
    Judge agrees awards American a gazillion dollars
    Multiply by 2000 theatres
    Sony goes bankrupt

  58. Streaming... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Team America: NetFlix streaming (or DVD) is your friend..........

  59. Re:Neville Chamberlin was not available for commen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because this is slashdot where nuance is not allowed?

  60. Re:butterscotch pudding by drainbramage · · Score: 1

    Why?
    I googled butterscotch pudding and Team America, got nothing of value.
    What is the connection?
    I haven't seen Team America but I have seen butterscotch pudding.

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  61. Release "The Interview" for free on the Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stand up for free speech

  62. Now wait for South Park to cover it by AC-x · · Score: 2

    Matt and Trey are going to have a field day over all this.

  63. Selective targeting by chiefcrash · · Score: 1

    Where was North Korea when The Notebook and Twilight hit theaters?

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  64. Hot tub Morlocks by tepples · · Score: 1

    Are you sure it wasn't canceled for a lack of hot tub Eloi and hot tub Morlocks?

  65. Putting the "cult" in "cult classic" by tepples · · Score: 1

    Cult classics are usually good movies (Big Lebowski), or really bad movies (Plan 9 From Outer Space).

    So which is Battlefield Earth? Or is it a cult classic only to those actually in a cult?

    1. Re:Putting the "cult" in "cult classic" by lucien86 · · Score: 1

      So which is Battlefield Earth? Or is it a cult classic only to those actually in a cult?

      It definitely looks a deliberate insult to the book and to L Ron Hubbard..

      Just like some of the other worst SF movies in history -
      The 'Hitch Hikers Guide ..' an abomination, actually managed to achieve worse effects than the late 70's BBC workshop production. - (That apparently used tape and hand drawn lettering to simulate computer displays..) A total insult to Douglas Adams and the original..
      Then there was Aliens vs Predator - another total insult to the material it came from, though mainly in the script, SF consistency, and 'directing', and ...

      Hell, when I think about it the list just goes on and on.. Maybe what we really need are some terrorists with a nuclear bomb, if they could blow up the modern Hollywood they could only improve the quality of the output..

      Maybe the North Koreans did us all a big favour. If Sony bury and burn this apparent turkey ('The Interview') forever we'll always have the mystery. - Which has to be better than the inevitable crushing disappointment that the reality will no doubt be.. :D

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  66. Missiles that reach Japan? by bd580slashdot · · Score: 1

    Remember, the new defense secretary backed a pre-emptive strike on North Korea in the case that they tested such a missile.

    Writing in Time magazine and The Washington Post in 2006, Carter, a physicist with a Yale doctorate who had served as assistant secretary of defense under President Bill Clinton, and William J. Perry, former secretary of defense, argued that the U.S. should launch a "cruise missile or precision bomb with an ordinary high-explosive warhead" to destroy a planned test launch by North Korea of its Taepodong 2 missile, which would be capable of carrying a nuclear device to Hawaii, Business Insider reports.

    The North Koreans at the time were preparing to launch the missile, which would violate an agreed-on moratorium, and both men felt that was sufficient provocation for President George W. Bush's administration to launch a "surgical strike" to take out the missile on the launch pad.

    "If North Korea persists in its launch preparations, the United States should immediately make clear its intention to strike and destroy the North Korean Taepodong missile before it can be launched," Carter and Perry, both college professors at the time, wrote in the Washington Post.

  67. Re:Neville Chamberlin was not available for commen by jcr · · Score: 1

    he increased military spending significantly.

    The parliament increased spending. The prime minister doesn't have the power to decide how taxes are spent.

    -jcr

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