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Robotics Researcher Starts Campaign To Ban Development of Sexbots

Earthquake Retrofit writes: A robotics ethicist from the UK's De Montfort University has started a campaign to ban the development and use of sex robots. "She believes that they reinforce traditional stereotypes of women and the view that a relationship need be nothing more than physical." The campaign was spurred by news that some companies claim to be fairly far along in development of such technology. One company even plans to start selling them later this year. The campaign's goals and concerns include "We propose that the development of sex robots will further reduce human empathy that can only be developed by an experience of mutual relationship," and, "We challenge the view that the development of adults and child sex robots will have a positive benefit to society, but instead further reinforce power relations of inequality and violence."

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  1. They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    when they pry it from my cold, dead hands...

    1. Re:They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By publicly opposing sexbots, she may be secretly selling/advertising robotics which will enable pervasive robots in society. The robots, in turn, will spy/track humans more effectively than any smartphone or PC.

    2. Re:They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by sabbede · · Score: 2

      Gasp! Did you never see "I Dated A Robot" in health class?

    3. Re:They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Her fear seems to be that use of sexbots will become a culturally embedded paraphilia, like medieval Chinese footbinding. That one required the actual torture of women.

      But until AI really gets good, sexbots are only going to appeal to the tiny minority of men who are already using Real Dolls. No threat to society as a whole.

    4. Re:They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by orasio · · Score: 1

      Nice choice! It would be hard to tell a robot from the real Lucy Liu.

      In any case, I would want one!.

    5. Re:They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by Cederic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But until AI really gets good, sexbots are only going to appeal to the tiny minority of men who are already using Real Dolls. No threat to society as a whole.

      Over half of the women in the UK already own a sexbot, I'm not sure AI is all that necessary.

    6. Re:They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      So that's why those refugees are zeroing in on the UK!

    7. Re:They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by FrozenSentry · · Score: 2

      She's just concerned about electro-gonorrhea, the noisy killer.

    8. Re:They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by nytes · · Score: 1

      Or your cold, dead...

      Never mind..

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    9. Re: They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by kenh · · Score: 1

      But until AI really gets good, sexbots are only going to appeal to the tiny minority of men who are already using Real Dolls. No threat to society as a whole.

      Right, what man is going to want a sexual plaything that is incapable of maintaining a three hour conversation about her feelings?

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    10. Re: They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's intelligent, I don't want it. That's the problem with the current penis receptacles. Cook, clean, sex, stfu please. Not necessarily in that order.

    11. Re:They get my Lucy Lu Bot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and even then good luck, because I will have glued it to my cold dead hands.

  2. Bigotry Shmigotry by nospam007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "She believes that they reinforce traditional stereotypes of women"

    Millions of gay men will hate you and your bigotry, because your arguments sucks more than a sex robot would do.

    1. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Millions of gay men will hate you and your bigotry, because your arguments sucks more than a sex robot would do

      The irony is that the gay men don't need _her_ to do the sucking!!

    2. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by kaur · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why does she believe the sexbots to be mostly feminine?
      Why only stereotypes of women need reinforcing?

      A female chauvinist pig she is!

    3. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Exactly. Compare sales of fleshlights to sales of vibrators / dildos. Women are far more likely currently to be buying machines for sexual purposes. Why would the sexbot market be any different?

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    4. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by monkeyzoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Many states used to control and ban what a lot of adults could do in the privacy of their own homes with other consenting adult humans. Almost all those laws have been wiped clean, and now, in the name of progress, this researcher wants to control what I can or can't do with a machine?!? Will the prude and pious attempts of puritan fanatics to control our sexuality, outlaw harmless "perversion," and squelch sexual freedom never stop?!

    5. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like SHE WOULD WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS on her YouTube videos. ;-)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    6. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. Compare sales of fleshlights to sales of vibrators / dildos. Women are far more likely currently to be buying machines for sexual purposes. Why would the sexbot market be any different?

      Because women are buying it as substitute for a cock, men as substitute for a relationship? If you look at something like escort service and prostitution it's massively dominated by male customers who pay for women to pretend to be their girlfriends/lovers or even dressing up RealDolls. Women use vibrators/dildos because they want want sex without the "baggage" of a boyfriend/one night stand, men want to play-pretend the exact opposite. Another clear clue should be that fleshlights try to mimic a human vagina, while there's a huge market for dildos and vibrators in all shapes and colors that have nothing to do with realism.

      In any case, she's wrong and it's a massive double standard at work here. Over the last 100 years there's been a massive movement to give women economic independence. Well tough shit, now we men want sexual independence and if I can get a sexbot to screw my brains out then we start a relationship more on equal footing. No, you don't need my money. No, I don't need your pussy. We can both do fine on our own, but maybe we have some mutual interest in having a relationship together because we want to. There's many men staying in poor relationships because they get pussy, ending those would do everyone good.

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    7. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sexual repression and trying to maintain an iron grip.
      With sex bots, girls might feel pressure to conform to preference rather then the feminists dictated mantra of scapegoatism and victimization.

      Boys with choices isn't kosher under the current regime (has been that way across the west for 20+ years).

    8. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because women are buying it as substitute for a cock, men as substitute for a relationship? If you look at something like escort service and prostitution it's massively dominated by male customers who pay for women to pretend to be their girlfriends/lovers or even dressing up RealDolls...

      Oh, nice of you to lump all men together to judge them. What a bunch of bigoted BS you just spouted. This is sexist and you just demonstrated your ignorance and prejudice. Stop lumping all men together with your fantasy of what they do and why they do it. You don't know WTF you're talking about.

    9. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Men will stick their junk in just about anything to get off. They're not pretending a hole in a wall is a girlfriend or wife, you dolt. The last thing men want is a relationship, they just need to get off. They're men. People like you who judge all men in such ways, and think women are just "substituting for a cock" and not a relationship are a huge part of the problem with society. Stop projecting your beliefs of what men are and do onto others with your laws. You clowns suck.

    10. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I am pretty sure that the vast majority of men who use prostitutes are using them for sex, not to "play as a girlfriend". Prostitutes get paid by the hour. What a strange post.

    11. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Another clear clue should be that fleshlights try to mimic a human vagina, while there's a huge market for dildos and vibrators in all shapes and colors that have nothing to do with realism."

      That's not a clue because it applies to everything. If the market is small, the variety is low.

    12. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A female chauvinist sow she is!

      There, fixed it for you.

    13. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      Almost all those laws have been wiped clean

      From the the oracle of all information, Sodomy laws in the United States makes for a fun read:

      As of April 2014, 17 states either have not yet formally repealed their laws against sexual activity among consenting adult, or have not revised them to accurately reflect their true scope in the aftermath of Lawrence v. Texas. Often, the sodomy law was drafted to also encompass other forms of sexual conduct such as bestiality, and no attempt has subsequently succeeded in separating them. Fourteen states' statutes purport to ban all forms of sodomy, some including oral intercourse, regardless of the participants' genders: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Utah. Four states specifically target their statutes at same-sex relations only: Oklahoma, Kansas[16][17] Kentucky, and Texas.

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    14. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are plenty of fleshlight-like products that do not try to look lika vaginas.

    15. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Megol · · Score: 3

      Such bullshit.
      Men and women alike want sex, men and women alike like relationships. There are those of either gender that don't want one or the other (and a very small group that don't want either) but that isn't really relevant.

    16. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you look at something like escort service and prostitution it's massively dominated by male customers who pay for women to pretend to be their girlfriends/lovers...

      While I'm sure some men do this, I don't believe it's "massively dominated" by those men. I am a man who HAS paid for sex, I can assure you I only did it because I wanted to fuck the woman. Jesus God, I would never want to even pretend to have a relationship with a hooker. Like the saying goes, you don't pay them for the sex, you pay them to go away after. This appears to be the predominate point of view among my peers (ie, other men who are willing to pay for sex from time to time).

    17. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by bbelt16ag · · Score: 1

      We we will fight her with tooth nail, whip and chain with every last breath we take. The perverse, freaks, and quirks of the world are not going to stop being themselves just cause some whiny woman thinks so.

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    18. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by bbelt16ag · · Score: 1

      are people getting picked up on those laws? I am sure there is a law some where on the books about not having sweaters on pigs or some such nonsense that is never enforced.

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    19. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, a number of prostitutes have said that they are mostly therapists. Granted, a lot of it probably depends on what their clientele is, and I doubt that "crack whores" play typically play that kind of role.

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    20. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by dablow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This.....this is exactly it.

      It's all about power, right now, in the west at least, women have it.

      If you pay attention you will often notice that a lot of women seem to oppose any kind of sexual service offered to men. They are afraid that if men can get laid whenever they want, they will not want to settle or put up with the headaches that come with being in a relationship. Of course they they never admit that, instead of opting for causes such as fighting "human trafficking" and "protecting the children".

      And with the rise of sex robots on the horizon.......they are starting to get a little worried, because it renders their arguments against male sexual freedom moot.

      I will admit, that I myself have fallen "victim" to the power of the pussy, dating horrible women because simply they "put out".

    21. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Men and women alike want sex, men and women alike like relationships.

      I think it is still a large difference between he sexes still.

      Sure, women like sex, but they still by far have an emotional attachment to sex, that many if not most men do not always have or need to have in order to be satisfied. If that were not the case, you'd not see the porn industry the way it is, nor the larger market for prostitutes/escorts catering to men wanting sex with women for $$, and no emotional baggage to go with it.

      I"d dare say it isn't a small group at all on either side of the gender fence with reference to the need to combine sex with emotion/relationship vs sex on its own.

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    22. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by dablow · · Score: 1

      So do girlfriends....just not direct cash exchange ;)

    23. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by dablow · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The big difference is, if you are an average looking guy, it's not easy to get laid when you want or get a gf when you want.

      The reverse (average looking woman) is not true; Even blandest plain looking average woman can get laid whenever she wants, will have a lineup of men waiting to take her out on dates (getting a decent bf is not as easy though).

      This is nothing more than a woman being terrified they will lose their sexual power over men.

      Imagine how the dating scene would change if men could get off (legally, cleanly and guilt free) whenever the had the urge, instead of having to date countless women and pretend to like them to get laid until the right one came along.....

    24. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "She believes that they reinforce traditional stereotypes of women"

      Millions of gay men will hate you and your bigotry, because your arguments sucks more than a sex robot would do.

      I may be mistaken, but wouldn't a sex robot move those stereotypes from women to the robots? Procreation might take a hit on this one since most guy would probably be happy to put up with the shit they get from the robots over that which they get from women.

    25. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Compare sales of fleshlights to sales of vibrators / dildos. Women are far more likely currently to be buying machines for sexual purposes. Why would the sexbot market be any different?

      Because women are buying it as substitute for a cock, men as substitute for a relationship? If you look at something like escort service and prostitution it's massively dominated by male customers who pay for women to pretend to be their girlfriends/lovers or even dressing up RealDolls. Women use vibrators/dildos because they want want sex without the "baggage" of a boyfriend/one night stand, men want to play-pretend the exact opposite. Another clear clue should be that fleshlights try to mimic a human vagina, while there's a huge market for dildos and vibrators in all shapes and colors that have nothing to do with realism.

      In any case, she's wrong and it's a massive double standard at work here. Over the last 100 years there's been a massive movement to give women economic independence. Well tough shit, now we men want sexual independence and if I can get a sexbot to screw my brains out then we start a relationship more on equal footing. No, you don't need my money. No, I don't need your pussy. We can both do fine on our own, but maybe we have some mutual interest in having a relationship together because we want to. There's many men staying in poor relationships because they get pussy, ending those would do everyone good.

      Rubbish. There are as many 'realistic' dildos as there are fleshlight clones, and as many completely abstract/fantasy dildos as there are non-realistic male masturbators out there right now.

      More significant is that it is fundamentally easier to make a dildo than a fake vagina. It's hard to make something soft enough for pleasant use without it being fragile - the Tenga Egg line is based entirely around the disposability aspect.

      Also the male stereotype of owning toys meaning you're unable to get a relationship - while agreeing with one aspect of your post - is a big sales problem. Because the other male sex toy - pornography - you can't tell me that's struggling to sell, or that it's being used as a relationship surrogate, that's complete crap.

      You're also perpetuating the idea that women can get a relationship any time they want, that they control the relationship. That's just as harmful. Thankfully all of the above prejudices are slowly eroding and sales of toys are falling more in line with gender/sexuality proportions. Porn will take longer because it's such a caustic industry, but there's an undeniable female market for it - those awful 50 Shades books prove that.

    26. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reverse (average looking woman) is not true; Even blandest plain looking average woman can get laid whenever she wants, will have a lineup of men waiting to take her out on dates (getting a decent bf is not as easy though).

      Bullshit. Complete and total bullshit. Your biases are showing.

    27. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      First time I see a video with double digit dislikes and not a single like.

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    28. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      After seeing her video, I kinda can't really think that she'd support a ban on dildos...

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    29. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the sex toys for men are absolute rubbish. They are literally garbage. Women have it much much better in the self pleasuring department.

    30. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Falconnan · · Score: 1

      Many states used to control and ban what a lot of adults could do in the privacy of their own homes with other consenting adult humans. Almost all those laws have been wiped clean, and now, in the name of progress, this researcher wants to control what I can or can't do with a machine?!? Will the prude and pious attempts of puritan fanatics to control our sexuality, outlaw harmless "perversion," and squelch sexual freedom never stop?!

      If history is an indicator, then no. The question is valid, but the answer nonetheless borders on obvious.

    31. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 2

      Because women are buying it as substitute for a cock, men as substitute for a relationship?

      ...what? Do you have visions of men sweet talking their sex dolls and bringing them out to dinner or something? I don't even know what to say to this.

      Women use vibrators/dildos because they want want sex without the "baggage" of a boyfriend/one night stand, men want to play-pretend the exact opposite.

      Again wtf?

      while there's a huge market for dildos and vibrators in all shapes and colors that have nothing to do with realism.

      Hahaha, no there isn't. They exist but the overwhelming majority of dildos sold look like penises, because women want to imagine they're having sex with Brad Pitt or whoever while using them, which is perfectly normal and rational.

    32. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by dablow · · Score: 1

      Ok, i'll feed the troll.....just cause I am bored.

      Care to elaborate on why my comment is bullshit? What bias am I showing?

      Also note that I said "can get laid whenever she wants" and not "does get laid laid whenever she wants".

    33. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can beat, lick, suck, fondle and pour candle wax on any consenting adult. But don't you DARE pay him or her below minimum wage to mow your lawn.

    34. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by dablow · · Score: 1

      IMHO women have much much much more choice when it comes potential mates, however I would say it's harder for them to find a decent mate (by decent I mean has a job, not a deadbeat, that like doing activities other than netflix and chill, non violent, not lazy, not looking to get laid and run).

    35. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's many men staying in poor relationships because they get pussy, ending those would do everyone good.

      Hell, there's many men staying in bad relationships because once upon a time, long long ago, they got pussy, and hints keep getting dropped that if only they keep doing this that or the other, they might, just might, one day get it again. We can be such idiots.

    36. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      So do girlfriends....just not direct cash exchange ;)

      As a guy, face it, you ALWAYS pay for it...one way or another.

      Some forms of repayment are just more legal than others....

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    37. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > Another clear clue should be that fleshlights try to mimic a human vagina

      Baddragon would like some words with you.

      Also, a lot of guys apparently buy dildos too.

    38. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's not even about emotion. It's about biology. A woman could get pregnant. She wants to make sure the man will be around to help her with that. That's why they want more "emotional attachment." Simple biological reality.

      If women wanted emotional attachment they wouldn't throw themselves at celebrities like they do. They throw themselves at celebrities because should they get pregnant, the baby will be well taken care of. This is not in the forefront of their minds, of course, but that's the biological imperative.

    39. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Our town still has a law that "all carriages must be attached when parked". Since a car is nothing more than a motorized carriage, I attach my car with a rope when I park it. Even the cop wouldn't believe me.

    40. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, let me explain a bit about Alabama.

      In order to repeal that law, we would have to have 0 nay votes in our state government. A single nay, and it would need to go to a ballot with the next election, and then be passed as a constitutional amendment. We have a shit ton of laws that are unenforceable and unconstitutional still officially on the books because the state constitution is the most fucking retarded thing ever written.

      If hilariously stupid stuff amuses you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Alabama

      "At 340,136 words, the document is 12 times longer than the average state constitution, 40 times longer than the U.S. Constitution, and is the longest still-operative constitution anywhere in the world. The English version of the Constitution of India, the longest national constitution, is about 117,369 words long, a third of the length of Alabama's.

      ". . .about 90 percent of the document's length, as of 2015, comes from its 892 amendments. About 75 percent of the amendments cover only a single county or city, and some deal with salaries of specific officials (e.g. Amendment 480 and the Greene County probate judge). This gives Alabama a large number of constitutional officers. It also makes it very difficult for residents of counties to solve their own problems.The constitution is the most amended in the world."

    41. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      can get laid whenever she wants

      Most women certainly cannot get laid whenever they want. Most average looking women included. Most men and women can get laid whenever they want if they lower their standards. I think your assertion is that men have lower standards or are more willing to lower them to get laid while the same is not true of women and therein, I believe, lies your bias.

    42. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Procreation might take a hit on this one since most guy would probably be happy to put up with the shit they get from the robots over that which they get from women.

      Which is fantastic. Because then dipshit man-children who can't handle a fucking real relationship will eliminate themselves from the gene pool and humanity will thrive without them.

    43. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women use vibrators/dildos because they want want sex without the "baggage" of a boyfriend/one night stand.

      Men use fleshlights/hands because they want want sex without the "baggage" of a girlfriend/one night stand.

    44. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...If you look at something like escort service and prostitution it's massively dominated by male customers who pay for women to pretend to be their girlfriends/lovers or even dressing up RealDolls.

      You bring up an interesting point: would a sexbot replace a girlfriend, or would it be more likely to replace a prostitute. I would guess prostitute. I would have a girlfriend (insert joke here) because I want a relationship with another human being, with mutually agreed-upon sex, with some conflicting issues regarding frequency and style. I would want a prostitute because I want sex when and how I want it without a relationship. A sexbot fills the second far more than the first. So, the end effect would be a decrease in prostitution / escorts and their knock on effects. This would seem to be a win for women, not a loss.

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    45. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I agree it would be good to have "sexual independence", as you put it. I just think there needs to be some responsibility taken by the manufacturers.

      Gap gets criticised because its manikins are ridiculously, death camp thin. Magazines get criticised because their models are all photoshopped to non-human proportions and levels of perfection. So rather than banning fembots, it would at least be an idea to consider that if we do make human like robots for any purpose they should not be causing the same unrealistic body image problems as manikins and photoshopped models.

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    46. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by dablow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's not just the men; Women pay for feeling of protection, stability and companionship that men provide.

      The trick is finding a happy medium where both parties are satisfied. In the past the balance was shifted towards men, now it has shifted towards women.

      I personally think that the world overall would be a better place if men where allowed to meet their needs without having to either settle down with somebody they do not necessarily want to be with, or without lying/tricking women (ie being a player). Many studies have showed that in places where prostitution is legal there is a drop in rape and sexual violence in general. Also these places (like in a lot of European countries) people still seek out meaningful monogamous relationships.

      Funny enough, up here in Canada, it is illegal to pay for sex (this is recent; it used to be legal, what was illegal was solicitation) , however if one pays for sex and records it then it is legal (exception made to keep the porn industry alive).

    47. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Funny enough, up here in Canada, it is illegal to pay for sex (this is recent; it used to be legal, what was illegal was solicitation) , however if one pays for sex and records it then it is legal (exception made to keep the porn industry alive).

      Same strange situation here in the USA.

      If you pay a girl to have sex with you, it is illegal. BUT, if you film it, it then becomes legal.

      What a strange world we live in....

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    48. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the market is small, the variety is low.

      I see what you did there...

    49. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The reverse (average looking woman) is not true; Even blandest plain looking average woman can get laid whenever she wants, will have a lineup of men waiting to take her out on dates (getting a decent bf is not as easy though).

      Bullshit. Complete and total bullshit. Your biases are showing.

      Put up ads on Craigslist:
      "Man Wanted: average-looking woman seeks just sex, no emotional baggage."
      "Woman Wanted: average-looking man seeks just sex, no emotional baggage."

      Do you honestly believe the Man Wanted ad won't get more calls? I'd bet on an order of magnitude more.

    50. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Care to elaborate on why my comment is bullshit?"

      That would involve the AC GP being capable of independent thought rather than just vomiting feels all over the place.

    51. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At 340,136 words, the document is 12 times longer than the average state constitution, 40 times longer than the U.S. Constitution, and is the longest still-operative constitution anywhere in the world. The English version of the Constitution of India, the longest national constitution, is about 117,369 words long, a third of the length of Alabama's.

      That's what you get for having to use simple words: You need more of them. (Sorry, too easy.)

    52. Re: Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >This is nothing more than a woman being terrified they will lose their sexual power over men.

      This, exactly this, a thousand times. Sex is a good of exchange, and feminists fear losing their monopoly.

    53. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by dablow · · Score: 1

      Even more strange: what if you have a gf, and you buy her a nice pair of Leboutin's shoes or wtv.

      You get home and end up having the best sex ever. Is that prostitution?

      What if I loan a female friend some $$$ to help her out. When the due date comes, she does not have the money to pay you back. She offers instead to do you a solid and have sex with you to thank you for your patience and help. Is that prostitution? Do we go to jail?

      What about the 2 women living with Charlie Sheen. Was that prostitution?

    54. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Immerman · · Score: 1

      > If that were not the case, you'd not see the porn industry the way it is

      I'm not sure that's a valid point. Just look at normal movies - a *lot* of women would like to see movies that treat women as more than trophies/eye candy, yet there's only a small percentage of movies produced that pass even the pathetically low bar of the Bechdel test: Two women talk to each other about anything other than men. (seriously - just try to imagine a movie that doesn't feature guys talking to each other about anything other than women) Why? Because the production industry is dominated by people who are either personally uninterested, or have convinced themselves that the audience is uninterested, in women who are more than skin deep.

      The porn industry is likely even worse - with a long tradition of catering to a male audience with products that are often extremely denigrating to women, and essentially no advertising outside of their own industry, they're going to have a serious uphill battle to grow any sort of female customer base even if they produced products to appeal to them - which they show no interest in doing anyway.

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    55. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Immerman · · Score: 2

      As a guy I can certainly agree that it feels that way, but I think you need to explicitly state the obvious "If she lowers her standards enough". Lower your standards enough and your chances of getting laid whenever you want go way up as well. Though you're probably right that there's a lot more really fucking creepy guys out there trolling for sex than there are women doing the same. But that may just be the fact that our society condemns such behavior much more strongly from women.

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    56. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree it would be good to have "sexual independence", as you put it. I just think there needs to be some responsibility taken by the manufacturers.

      In other words, independence is for yourself, but responsibility is for other people?

      Sorry, but no. Independence and responsibility go hand in hand.

      Gap gets criticised because its manikins are ridiculously, death camp thin. Magazines get criticised because their models are all photoshopped to non-human proportions and levels of perfection.

      First, you're using circular reason here. You're basically saying what you're complaining about is a problem because people (like you) are complaining that it is a problem. That's like me saying feminism is toxic because MRAs and GamerGate are saying it is toxic. Come on.

      Putting that aside, so what if Gap makes clothes you don't like, or magazines show unrealistic women? THEN DON'T BUY THEM. It's not just men buying them. I wager women buy them more (definitely the miniskirts), if not in proportion than definitely in dollars.

      It's not the manufacturer's (or men, or society) responsibility that women are choosing to fork over so much of their hard earned (77 cents to the dollar) money to buy that crap. Take responsibility of your own purchasing decisions first, before talking about responsibility in other people. Don't be like those GamerGaters who speak of ethics but don't have any themselves.

    57. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "women are buying it as substitute for a cock, men as substitute for a relationship"

      Exactly the wrong way around!
      Men don't need relationships, women do.
      Men *pay* whores to *go away* afterwards.
      A woman's mission is to *capture* the best man she can, via sex and relationship.

    58. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      How many 5 inch long, pencil thick dildos do you think will be sold?

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    59. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Billions to not give a flying fuck what millions of perverts want :P

    60. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that tell you anything more about men or women than how many are likely to be posting on Craigslist for sex?

      Try the experiment in a progressive liberal youthful crowd, and I bet you'd find the responses roughly proportional. Perhaps there have been universities that have done studies.

    61. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Getting men who just want a realistic sex act and no relationship to use an object rather than using a live woman as an object to be tossed aside after does what to reinforce the objectification of women, exactly? I'd think if there's a suitably realistic object to treat as an object then there would be far fewer casual sex acts masquerading as relationships.

    62. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Behold+the+future_54020d_5499447.jpg

    63. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good god you're a fucking stupid twat. Can't you see the blindingly obvious? WOMEN. ARE. TRYING. TO. OUTLAW. COMPETITION. IN. THE. VAGINA. MARKET, you retarded putz. Why do you think brothels are still illegal nearly everywhere in the US and Canada?

      The problem is not your fictional "puritans", the problem is rent-seeking women trying to ban the competition.

    64. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is well known that, generally speaking, women seek "upwards" relationships (to men with better education, more money, etc.) while man also accept women who are "beneath" them, i.e. men have lower standards than women. But does this mean that men have an easier time getting laid? They should, right? They do after all accept a larger percentage of the opposite sex as partners. Nobody would argue that men actually have an easier time finding a sexual partner though. Web sites like Ashley Madison are obvious proof of the fact that women can choose without having to lower their standards and only need to signal availability, because they'll get so many offers that they can reject far more than men even get at all. Women can maintain higher standards and don't have to lower them to get laid.

      The solution to this apparent paradox is the law of supply and demand. The "price" of sex with a woman is so much higher for a man than the "price" of sex with a man is for a woman because demand exceeds supply in one direction and supply exceeds demand in the other direction. The demand is hardly elastic, so the price difference is bigger than one might expect just from the assumption that "men want it, women want it too". The supply and demand differences are easily explained by evolutionary biology, so this isn't going to go away either, unless, and this is what's worrying women, a substitute for the product is found.

    65. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by u38cg · · Score: 2
      >>> if men could get off (legally, cleanly and guilt free) whenever the had the urge

      You should try this thing called masturbation. Might make you less inclined to spout total bullshit.

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    66. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Enigma2175 · · Score: 1

      Imagine how the dating scene would change if men could get off (legally, cleanly and guilt free) whenever the had the urge,

      They already can (well, not WHENEVER they have the urge, but they couldn't do that with a sexbot either). Males can easily masturbate, and most of them do. There are also things like fleshlights and real dolls if spanking the monkey just isn't doing the job. It hasn't yet made society collapse, probably because men DO often want something more than simple sex. The urge to procreate is strong in both sexes, as is the urge to form social connections.

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    67. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      are people getting picked up on those laws? I am sure there is a law some where on the books about not having sweaters on pigs or some such nonsense that is never enforced.

      I doubt it. But who knows? I would rather have these laws off the books if they aren't going to be enforced.

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    68. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure men can already get off whenever they have the urge...

    69. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Fascinating....a discussion that starts with a claim that women want relationships and men want physical relief gets to a point where women are generally buying machines of some sort while men generally insist on being with real women, despite it being more risky and expensive. You'd think it would be reversed, with the men wanting something to jack off into while the women insist on hiring real men who can talk to them.

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    70. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by AdamThor · · Score: 3, Informative

      Makes you 100% more likely to spout something else, though.

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    71. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by sudon't · · Score: 1

      So true...so true... I have long thought that, if sexuality were a choice, being a gay male would be the obvious choice for those wanting lots of sex. Which is to say, most males. *sigh* Why can't women be more like men? I mean, in some ways...

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    72. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People can get attached and love someone who doesn't return a favor. People can also get attached to and "love" an object that is incapable of returning that favor. As an example we can start with cars and go all the way into wtf Japan territory. Who is to say that a software construct which fakes empathy, emotions and capable of reflection on some rudimentary level, is incapable of providing psychological and sexual relief to people who need it.

      Either way we should have this conversation in 40+ years. I would personally get one just to get groceries, meds, clean my shit and hopefully provide some measure of conversation when everyone I care about is dead or goes missing.

    73. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh uh... no. first off, male sex workers exist. Gay and Lesbian Sex workers exist. Most men who frequent Prostitutes are in long term commited relationships. Most women who do likewise are not.

    74. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The opposite of what the researcher argues might be true. Hyper-realistic sexbots might be a good thing. More sex and better sex but without the need to cheat. It very plausible it might even reduce incidents of sex crimes. It might also improve the quality of life of lonely people. What if someone is hideously ugly and they can't get laid? Are they suppose to stay a virgin their entire life?

      Those that kneejerk argue to ban some technology before it even exists to properly empirically evaluate are typically incompetent.

    75. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That all depends on where you are. In several Asian countries (China and Thailand, for example) you often get the lady for the night.. she stays with you, you wake up during the night and/or in the morning and do it again, and in Thailand they often will even cook breakfast for you. There's something very nice about that experience - waking up with a pleasant lady in your arms. I even keep in touch with one lady as a friend while I'm back in the USA and when I'm back in her country we "conduct business", so to speak.

      It is oddly therapeutic. She's a wonderful cuddler.

    76. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Now now, I've talked to sex workers and you usually don't ever see anything smaller than a finger. But they're not necessarily anything over a finger's length, either.

      I do, however, know women who have intentionally bought small dildos and vibes, for vaginal play even.

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    77. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      My perception is that a woman only has to lower her standards in either the area of attractiveness or humanity, whereas as a man if I want immediate sex I find I usually have to compromise both. By that, I mean starting from nothing. I prefer to have sex with people I actually know I like before I have sex with them. It's difficult to avoid the "friend zone" in the process, but having friends is not so bad. Maybe it's just a fundamental (though not universal) difference between men and women, or maybe it has to do with how we're raised, but I seem to want to have sex with women more when I know them and admire them, whereas women I've observed (probably not a statistically representative sample) seem to want to have sex with men more when they can imagine anything they want because they don't know them yet. But maybe that's just what it looks like from where I'm standing. Let's be clear, I'm not against having women as friends. My best friends are women, in fact. But let's not pretend this isn't a real dynamic.

      Maybe the difference is that men are more willing to lower standards, so we have plenty of examples for comparison :)

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    78. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I would have a girlfriend (insert joke here)

      (sorry to hear that)

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    79. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by andymadigan · · Score: 2

      "Millions of gay men will hate you and your bigotry"

      I'm one of them, and I'm sick of all these arguments that "porn degrades women" or "sex bots degrade women", etc. Gay men watch porn for the same reason that straight men do, and it has nothing to do with degrading anyone. They'll buy sex bots too. I live a few blocks from Folsom St, they'll be in shop windows!

      But I generally agree that this is really a prudish family values argument dressed up as feminism.

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    80. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Chrontius · · Score: 1

      Another clear clue should be that fleshlights try to mimic a human vagina

      Baddragon would like some words with you.

      Also, a lot of guys apparently buy dildos too.

      Bumping for truth, and the people who browse at +2.

      They take the idea of sexual "fantasy" a little further than most. You'll find more dongs than penetrables, but if you want head (or tail) from creatures that nature couldn't imagine, they can provide the novelty you want. And they're certainly not the only ones doing it - even the eponymous Fleshlight was available in an attempt to imagine "What does a Na'Vi look like down there?" And frankly, a lot of them look like pretty bland, utilitarian cylinders.

    81. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by ras · · Score: 1

      Imagine how the dating scene would change if men could get off (legally, cleanly and guilt free) whenever the had the urge, instead of having to date countless women and pretend to like them to get laid until the right one came along.....

      Errr, have you looked at what internet offers now? Admittedly you only get to touch the screen, but there is a real woman behind it who gets paid to do what you ask and pretend to love it without caring one wit about whether you like her or not.

      Maybe you haven't paid much attention to it, but the women on the planet sure have. There reaction was exactly the same as this time round - they embark on crusades to get rid of porn on the internet. Hopefully their successes to date will be an excellent predictor of Dr Kathleen Richardson's success in this time around.

      Despite these developments civilisation still stands. My guess is that's because men actually enjoy the company of their partner, particularly one that also reciprocates by appreciating his company as much as he appreciates hers.

      The only surprising thing about any of this is as an ethicist lecturing at a University, I expect Dr Kathleen Richardson to be smart enough to recognise we have been inventing machines designed to replace women in sex for literally millennia - starting with his hands. Yet they always end up wanting the real thing. Maybe, just maybe, isn't just sex isn't the only thing men want from a relationship?

    82. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would have a girlfriend (insert joke here) because I want a relationship with another human being

      I prefer to insert something else there.

    83. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Pubstar · · Score: 1

      I saw Na'Vi and immediately thought of the eSports franchise, and now I need to bleach my mind.

    84. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > "human trafficking"

      Just for the record, this is a real thing. And there are terrible people who do enslave people into it, even in this day and age.

      I wish that weren't the case, but please don't write as if this did not exist, because it does.

    85. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Two women talk to each other about anything other than men. (seriously - just try to imagine a movie that doesn't feature guys talking to each other about anything other than women) Why? Because the production industry is dominated by people who are either personally uninterested, or have convinced themselves that the audience is uninterested, in women who are more than skin deep.

      The movie makers want to make money off their movies, so they make what people will pay to see. If there are not enough people of either gender who wants to see two or more women in a conversation where men aren't involved what do you expect them to do?

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    86. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      The reverse (average looking woman) is not true; Even blandest plain looking average woman can get laid whenever she wants, will have a lineup of men waiting to take her out on dates (getting a decent bf is not as easy though).

      Bullshit. Complete and total bullshit. Your biases are showing.

      Reality is at odds with your ideology. For a man it takes time and effort and talent and money and power and influence to get laid. The more of any of these a man has the bigger his chances of getting laid. For a women all she has to do is say yes.

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    87. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      I agree it would be good to have "sexual independence", as you put it. I just think there needs to be some responsibility taken by the manufacturers.

      Gap gets criticised because its manikins are ridiculously, death camp thin. Magazines get criticised because their models are all photoshopped to non-human proportions and levels of perfection. So rather than banning fembots, it would at least be an idea to consider that if we do make human like robots for any purpose they should not be causing the same unrealistic body image problems as manikins and photoshopped models.

      Your ideology is peeking through again. Me having the "sexual independence" to fuck a robot does not in any way present a moral issue. If you think there is a responsibility on the part of the manufacturer them you are limiting my sexual independence.

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    88. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Right, because seeing Hot Super-Heroine #1 exchange a few lines of sweaty, breathless dialog with Hot Super-Heroine #2 about how to take down the Villain currently kicking the team's ass would be a total turn-off for everyone watching the movie. Everyone knows that only the male characters can have conversations that drive the plot. And god forbid they should exchange a couple lines of inane dialog such as exchanged by practically the entire male cast, that would have audiences walking out of theaters across the country!

      The problem isn't that nobody wants to see it - mostly nobody would even notice it happening, and the only ones that care are those that notice its glaring absence.

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    89. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      If you browse any sex toy web site you will find that actually many female masturbatory aids are around 5 inches and fairly thin. Women don't want to shove an uncomfortably large item into themselves, they want precision stimulation of sensitive areas. Those huge dildos you see are just for porn and fetishes, they don't feel as good as the smaller ones.

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    90. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Right, because seeing Hot Super-Heroine #1 exchange a few lines of sweaty, breathless dialog with Hot Super-Heroine #2 about how to take down the Villain currently kicking the team's ass would be a total turn-off for everyone watching the movie. Everyone knows that only the male characters can have conversations that drive the plot. And god forbid they should exchange a couple lines of inane dialog such as exchanged by practically the entire male cast, that would have audiences walking out of theaters across the country!

      The problem isn't that nobody wants to see it - mostly nobody would even notice it happening, and the only ones that care are those that notice its glaring absence.

      If enough people wanted to see it, it would make money. It's a free market, and the issue has been known for decades, and yet you want to claim that movie makers, caring only about profits, will routinely ignore what could be profitable scripts?

      You're making a bold assertion - namely that something that was known about for decades will be profitable if only someone will make it. The odds are better that movie makers have learned, over the decades, what sells and what doesn't sell by using trial and error.

      They're having trouble seeing profitability in well-written plots and non-forgettable characters, now you want them to add ideology into the mix? We'd see a return to things like basic plot design and character building before we see a move towards a little-cared-for ideology promoted by a fringe of the population.

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    91. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Imagine how the dating scene would change if men could get off (legally, cleanly and guilt free) whenever the had the urge

      Men are not ruled by their sexual desires. What a misandrist thing to say.

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    92. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The point of a sexbot seems to be to provide a substitute for the relationship, as well as the pleasure. There are plenty of male sex toys that create sensations way beyond what vaginal intercourse can. The only reason to want a human like robot for sex is to add some kind of intimacy and create an artificial relationship with it.

      Same with prostitution. The only reason to engage one is to get more than mere sensation - the "girlfriend experience" as they say.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    93. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Lotana · · Score: 1

      Downside: You need to be VERY careful that the "lady" in Thailand is actually a lady...

    94. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by backwardsposter · · Score: 1

      I don't know if we should compare dildos sales to fleshlights. Most men have hands that simulate well enough.

    95. Re: Bigotry Shmigotry by BobSutan · · Score: 1

      Exactly. There's a good discussion of this topic over here:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRe...

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      "On a scale from 1 to 10, people are stupid"
    96. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by BobSutan · · Score: 1

      You're right, it is about power. Sexbots would empower men and give them choice on a level never before seen in history. That scares the hell out of people, mainly women, many of whom would for the first time in their lives have to offer more to a man than their looks/sex. There's a good discussion of this topic right here:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRe...

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    97. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      There are hundreds of films that pass the "Bechdel Test": they are called chickflicks.
      The fact that these films are not as profitable as those aimed as young men is a reflection of who wants to pay for movie tickets and who don't.

    98. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      Of course it's masturbation, by definition.
      So what?

    99. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      Of course, a large part of that attitude in women is based on security: "if I get pregnant, will he stick around to help me?"
      If that's the only way he is going to get laid, the answer is "yes".

    100. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Immerman · · Score: 1

      The problem isn't that the movies don't make money - it's fairly random which movies pass the Bechdel test, and plenty of blockbusters are included. It's simply that there's only a small percentage of movies made that pass it at all.

      I'm not asking for ideology - just to stop treating women solely as trophies/eye candy. It doesn't exactly make a whole lot of difference if random supporting characters that have meaningful dialog are women or men.

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    101. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Immerman · · Score: 1

      That's way beyond passing the Bechdel test (and actually, not all of them do). How much dialog is there in your average "guy movie" exchanged by/with "background characters" . Don't you think it's just a bit strange that with all of that dialog, none of it is between two women in most movies?

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    102. Re:Bigotry Shmigotry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, I know women in real life who can't pass the Bechdel test!

  3. Predicable do-gooder medling. by Cafe+Alpha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every bit as doomed as banning porn. I'd be angry at her for trying, but since she'll accomplish precisely nothing, I think her failure will be a thoroughly satisfying punishment for the attempt.

    1. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Except for the fact that a fair bit of porn (see Max Hatrdcore and some lolicon) has already been criminalized. And let's not forget the constant attempts to criminalize virtual schoolgirl porn, "for the children", and waiting for the SCOTS to possibly rule against. And it is even worse in the UK.

      Nope, too much of the discourse now is the inmates taking control of the asylum, and especially if the only criteria is "reinforce traditional stereotypes of women", maybe she should quit reinforcing stereotypes of women when their sexual hegemony is questioned.

    2. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by monkeyzoo · · Score: 1

      What next, will she outlaw my freedom to fuck an apple pie if I want?
      Or a woman to fuck a banana?

      Note what a femi-chauvinist she is, completely ignoring two huge groups of people in her thinking: heterosexual women, and homosexuals (of both genders), both of which are equally eager sex toy consumers.

      Small-minded, ignorant, and antiquated thinking.

    3. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by monkeyzoo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, OK, but even so, those bans are aimed at human participants. We're talking inanimate objects here!

      I can still fuck an apple pie if I want to, right?
      And a woman can fuck a banana? (Which this lady completely ignores with her chauvinist blinders on.)

    4. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      What next, will she outlaw my freedom to fuck an apple pie if I want?

      Yes, because the apple pie is taking the role of the oppressed womyn and therefore you are a male rapist (and in case you're female, you're a virtual male rapist). Also, how old were the apples in the pie? If you haven't got a Title 18, Section 2257 certificate for them you're in serious trouble.

    5. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, sure you are fuck an apple pie.

      However, it will not be an "inanimate" object if it is a robot. It is by it's nature animated. (Yes, I am stretching the definition of inanimate here)

      You also seem to forget that there are other laws.

      It is illegal (in the US) to have sex with Non-humans, even if they are willing. (Dogs, horses, cows, goats, etc)
      It is also illegal to own Inanimate objects that have a realistic phallic shape (In many states, including the one I am in)

      So her push to ban is not outside the realm of possibility.

      Personally, I think she is scared. If they make a sexy humanoid robot that can cook, clean, and will give sex anytime a guy asks, women will loose there power over men.

    6. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duuude! Drawings have been deemed illegal. It doesn't get much more inanimate than that.

      Can't say for the UK, but for the US, this follows in a long line of censorship attempts (some Canadian feminist have also put forth a ban on sexbots, but Canada is its own brand of crazy now), and even people importing sex dolls from Japan being brought up on criminal charges. There is an obvious case to made for chilling effect, even if later charges are dropped.

      OP is unfortunately ignorant of how much porn has been effectively banned, either through malicious prosecution or very gender specific definitions of porn. And all it takes is a momentary lapse for a ban to become the law of the land, and the near impossibility to get bad laws repealed instead of simply amended. You lose either way.

      Is the apple pie in the shape of a girl?

    7. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every bit as doomed as banning porn.

      Not necessarily. There was a huge feminist push behind sexual liberation (not surprising - it mostly benefits women, at least in the short term), so not surprisingly there was a lot of pro-porn sentiment in the feminist movement back then. So, restricting porn was doomed because women were pushing for more of it too, and politics invariably just gives society what women want.

      With sexbots though, there is no female push for them. There's no feminist push for sexbots the way there was for porn. Hence, it's somewhat less clear that sexbots will have an easy ride to market.

    8. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      Its scary that you know how to spell "womyn", and even scarier that I recognize it for what it is.

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    9. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by rmdingler · · Score: 2

      Every bit as doomed as banning porn. I'd be angry at her for trying, but since she'll accomplish precisely nothing, I think her failure will be a thoroughly satisfying punishment for the attempt.

      I'm not so certain she'll accomplish precisely nothing.

      If the Victorian era school of thought taught us anything, it is that the taboo is even more desirable.

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      Ernest Hemingway

    10. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, those laws aren't aimed at human participants. Take the UK, here you can get three years in prison for possessing porn containing any of the below. Note that this includes drawn ponography, 3D computer generated porn and porn simulated by live actors:

      - Rape.
      - Act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal, so that's all the furry stuff out.
      - Porn that could cause injury to a person's anus, breasts or genitals, so that would include guro, some anal sex and some bondage out.
      - Sexual interference with a human corpse.
      - Offensive, disgusting, obscene porn, just in case the other categories weren't enough to catch you.

      If you think other countries are better than the UK you're very much mistaken. The US has it's obscenity laws, which cover pretty much anything they want it to. Canada and Australia have been very active about imprisoning people for porn crimes, for example somebody was prosecuted in Australia for possessing pictures of Lisa Simpson. Other European countries are just as bad.

      If you think they won't ban sexbots, you're very much mistaken.

    11. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Its scary that you know how to spell "womyn", and even scarier that I recognize it for what it is."

      If you mean recognize it as complete and utter bullshit, then no surprise.

    12. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by GungaDan · · Score: 1

      And if that apple pie has corn flakes in the crust you're a (probably white cis-) male cereal rapist!

      The HORROR!

      --
      Eloi are stupid, throw morlocks at them!
    13. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every bit as doomed as banning porn.

      Not necessarily. There was a huge feminist push behind sexual liberation (not surprising - it mostly benefits women, at least in the short term), so not surprisingly there was a lot of pro-porn sentiment in the feminist movement back then. So, restricting porn was doomed because women were pushing for more of it too, and politics invariably just gives society what women want.

      With sexbots though, there is no female push for them. There's no feminist push for sexbots the way there was for porn. Hence, it's somewhat less clear that sexbots will have an easy ride to market.

      Traditional feminism is doomed.

      Neo-feminism (nazi) is also doomed.

      Two things are on the near horizon; male chemical birth control and vaccines or cures for herpes and possibly AIDS. Breaking the fear of pregnancy and the fear of dying or disease from sex will make the sexual revolution finally equal. ALL men will be completely free to get in a relationship because he likes his partner. He'll be in complete control of if he gives things to the relationship or not, just like his partner.

      Women will hate this (they already do).

      Don't get me wrong, the sexual revolution was a good thing, it's just not enough of a good thing and it wasn't spread around equally. In some areas women got all the benefits (divorce settlements, child custody, extremely wide choice in sex partners) and men got a subset of gullible or slutty women.

      Soon some changes will wipe some of those inequalities out.

      Women will have only the merits of what they do for others left after it's done, their work, and their roles in families to create value for themselves. Just like men. Some women will view this as a very bad thing. That's on them. This woman, is one of those women.

    14. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Cederic · · Score: 2

      With sexbots though, there is no female push for them.

      Erm. 52% of women in the UK responded to a Durex sex survey indicating that they use vibrators.

      There's a whole market segment going under 'fucking machine'.

      There's female demand in this space, trust me.

    15. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by monkeyzoo · · Score: 1

      Inanimate means not living, guy.
      Don't say fucking a robot is like fucking a dog.

    16. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      It is illegal (in the US) to have sex with Non-humans, even if they are willing. (Dogs, horses, cows, goats, etc)

      Actually (strangely), this is not true. Many states do not have any laws against this. There's also some European countries that don't.

    17. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you really think women are going to be swayed by that argument? Of course there's female demand in the space. The problem is that you're assuming that they'll allow male demand in that space to be legal, for consistency's sake.

    18. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Inanimate does not mean what you think it means!

      Dictionary Definition

      inanimate [in-an-uh-mit]

        adjective
      1. not animate; lifeless.

    19. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Kjella · · Score: 1

      I'm not so certain she'll accomplish precisely nothing. If the Victorian era school of thought taught us anything, it is that the taboo is even more desirable.

      I think almost any female can be put down with a snarky "And you never used a dildo?", this one is almost exclusively a male taboo I think. Because apart from the jokes and the inflatable sex doll as gag gifts, I've never heard any male I know ever admit to having or using any vagina substitute. Sex toys you use with a partner is obviously different, it's the "I couldn't get laid so I had to use a sex toy" that is the taboo. That is entirely different for women, nobody assumes they used a dildo/vibrator because they couldn't get laid.

      --
      Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    20. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What this woman has said is indistinguishable from "I know what you're doing in the privacy of your own pantry and I'm sticking my nose into it."

    21. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She'll argue piefucking increases your carbon footprint. You'll have to pay a fee into a cap and trade scheme to help keep the world from collapsing under all those fap-gasses. Think of the children!

    22. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by RyoShin · · Score: 1

      People like this should still be spoken against at the earliest possible moment (and in the most polite way possible, as releasing anger won't win anyone to your side). Even if she doesn't actually get sexbots outright banned--and I agree with you on this, that she won't--left unchecked she could still create a following or plant ideas that lead to problems in the future.

      Ounce of prevention and all of that.

    23. Re:Predicable do-gooder medling. by monkeyzoo · · Score: 1

      Inanimate does not mean what you think it means!

      Dictionary Definition

      inanimate [in-an-uh-mit]

        adjective
      1. not animate; lifeless.

      I said it meant "not living." You pasted a definition saying "lifeless."
      Seems you misread my post, as I used the word exactly as prescribed.

  4. Consider the source by Crashmarik · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looking at the woman

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    It's no surprise she fears competition from robots.

    1. Re:Consider the source by Nutria · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What's worse is that De Montfort University has a Senior Research Fellow In The Ethics Of Robotics.

      --
      "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
    2. Re:Consider the source by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      What's worse is that De Montfort University has a Senior Research Fellow In The Ethics Of Robotics.

      I don't believe De Montfort is an academic power house. It's mainly somewhere for kids to drink for 3 years before getting a job.

    3. Re:Consider the source by rizole · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Lazy, lazy, lazy. Using her apprerence to denigrate her arguments is gutter tabloid tactics. Unless you're, you know, like 12 years old in which case carry on.

    4. Re: Consider the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same reason liberal women and feminists are against prostitution.

    5. Re: Consider the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or Donald Trump.

      Is there a Godwin-like thing with Trump?

    6. Re:Consider the source by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      What's worse is that De Montfort University has a Senior Research Fellow In The Ethics Of Robotics.

      So you don't care if people build unethical robots?

      While the sexbot things is ridiculous for a number of reasons (mainly due to personal choice), what about scenarios where robots could lie, cheat, steal and kill? Ands that not even getting into the question of robots in the military.

      Given the extremes of human nature, do you really think that people shouldn't be thinking about how we should craft our electronic progeny?

      --
      I am Slashdot. Are you Slashdot as well?
    7. Re:Consider the source by Blue+Stone · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree.

      I much prefer the Youtube commenter who suggested she was trying to protect the interests of the "pussy cartel".

      --
      Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
    8. Re:Consider the source by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2

      As long as there is no true AI, unethical robots cannot exist, only unethical use of a robot. And with a true AI, using robots would be slavery, thus unethical from the very beginning.

      --
      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
    9. Re:Consider the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Promise her a handsome, strong and masculine sexbot and she will relent.

    10. Re:Consider the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. Her appearance is quite relevant to the parent statement and thus its use is permitted in our case.

    11. Re: Consider the source by tomhath · · Score: 1

      Not that anyone here has ever made fun of Trump's appearance. Especially that ridiculous looking hair; who would mock him because he wears what looks like a disemboweled children's plush toy on his head?

    12. Re:Consider the source by Immerman · · Score: 1

      I don't know - the semantics may be a bit off, but I'd say there's a good argument to be made that a tool with no significant ethical usage, but large unethical usages, is inherently unethical [to create].

      From what I've seen of most robotic/AI ethics discussions, it's rarely about whether the machine itself is ethical, but rather considering the ethical implications of creating the machine in the first place and/or the limits that should be placed upon it for ethical purposes. But that doesn't really squeeze down to fit into a course-catalog heading very well. Same thing with Business/Professional ethics: it's not about the business or profession which are abstractions and thus incapable of ethics, it's about the people involved and the ethical limitations on their conduct.

      As a concrete example: consider a surveillance system that permanently records, categorizes, indexes, and cross-references the activities of every person on the planet, 24/7. It's just a massive data-collection robot, incapable of truly understanding what it sees, much less making ethical decisions. However, I'm pretty sure a large percentage of the folks here would agree that horrifying abuse of such a system is inevitable, and thus that even creating the thing in the first place is horribly unethical.

      --
      --- Most topics have many sides worth arguing, allow me to take one opposite you.
    13. Re:Consider the source by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      While calling someone a child is of course the height of sophisticated debate, a favorite tactic used by kindergartners everywhere! This ugly old cow is not making any arguments, she's just speculating and calling for government thought control, it's lazier to maintain polite discourse than to attack viciously when you are facing a monster.

    14. Re:Consider the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's no surprise she fears competition from robots.

      Nah, she fears falling for the Bicentennial Man and his metal phallus of doom.

    15. Re:Consider the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To stat with you went to the dregs of the internet, youtube comments. I mean people say stuff there that would get them ostracized from 4chan

      Then you picked out the worst of the worst I am sure.

      Then you hold this up to be an accurate representation of what men think.

      You fail.

    16. Re:Consider the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lazy, lazy, lazy. Using her apprerence to denigrate her arguments is gutter tabloid tactics. Unless you're, you know, like 12 years old in which case carry on.

      Using his age to denigrate his arguments is gutter tabloid tactics.

    17. Re:Consider the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every fucking time.

    18. Re:Consider the source by Nutria · · Score: 1

      consider a surveillance system ...

      Until "Something Bad" happens and people bitch and moan that you weren't storing all this stuff. Concrete example: the Clinton Administration forbade the FBI & CIA from sharing data; otherwise, 9/11 might have been prevented.

      --
      "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
    19. Re:Consider the source by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Except that storing stuff wouldn't have helped *prevent* the attack, for that you also need ongoing near universal analysis in real time. But granted, that probably comes with the territory.

      Of course even that might not have helped - Bush received multiple credible warnings of an impending attack starting almost a year ahead of time and chose to ignore them - either in disbelief or for more nefarious reasons (and either way you have to admit that the fact that he used them as an excuse to go to war with a completely uninvolved country looks pretty bad). No amount of intelligence will help prevention if you choose to ignore it.

      And the bigger consideration is that there will *always* be ways to make us safer from Threat A - the real question is what is the price, and how much greater Threat B becomes in the process. The only way to make us completely safe from criminals, terrorists, etc. is to lock everyone in their own a little prison cell from the day they're born. Of course that's a price most people would be unwilling to pay for safety, and leaves us all completely defenseless against corruption of the enforcers. And such corruption would almost certainly be a massive plague, because what incentive would the leaders and enforcers have to NOT exploit their position when the citizenry has no way to object?

      --
      --- Most topics have many sides worth arguing, allow me to take one opposite you.
    20. Re:Consider the source by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Bush received multiple credible warnings

      I recall it more as "We hear lots of chatter. Something Big is going to happen." That's not useful.

      almost a year ahead of time

      To me, "8 months" is not "almost a year".

      or for more nefarious reasons

      Your credibility just flew out the window, if for no other reason that someone (Colin Powell, for instance) in the Administration would have squealed by now.

      --
      "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
    21. Re:Consider the source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lazy, lazy, lazy. Using her apprerence to denigrate her arguments is gutter tabloid tactics. Unless you're, you know, like 12 years old in which case carry on.

      You just scored PC points with the PC crowd and have the mod points to show for it. Congratulations.

      Of course I will not mention what kind of points you and the people who modded you up, just earned from people who have even the simplest ability to think.
      That woman and Jessica Alba will be getting replaced by sex bots at exactly the same time... Because that would be the politically correct thing! PC! PC! PC!

    22. Re:Consider the source by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      someone (Colin Powell, for instance) in the Administration would have squealed by now.

      Only if they knew about it.
      If Cheney and his boys dreamt it up, they would have kept it to themselves, and Bush would have done anything Cheney told him to do.

  5. Someone has been watching by korex · · Score: 2

    too much Futurama?

    1. Re:Someone has been watching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like too much time in Japan.

  6. And good job slashdot by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    Nothing like putting up crap without analysis or even a modicum of critical thought

    1. Re:And good job slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like she would like everyone to leave her a comment with her thoughts. =)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  7. makes no sense to me by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "She believes that they reinforce traditional stereotypes of women and the view that a relationship need be nothing more than physical."

    How does choosing to have sex with a robot reinforce stereotypes about women or relationships with women?

    1. Re:makes no sense to me by Kuroji · · Score: 4, Funny

      How dare you bring logic into this argument. This is an emotional appeal, damn it!

    2. Re:makes no sense to me by rioki · · Score: 4, Informative

      The interesting thing and lack of basic reasoning skills comes from the fact that Dr. Richardson apparently can only picture sex robots as being a simulacrum of the female gender. Although I don't have hard numbers at hand, I read in an interview with the Real Doll creator, that the male gender did sell almost as well as their female gendered dolls. The kicker is that most dolls were soled with the swap-able genitalia and both genitalia. If we see a usable sex robot any time soon, you can rest assured that it will probably come in both gendered versions.

      But no, let's make this about women and how they are objectified.

    3. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sex bots should be banned much in the same way dildos are banned for reducing sexual contact with men to just sticking things in your orifice of choice.

    4. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "She believes that they reinforce traditional stereotypes of women and the view that a relationship need be nothing more than physical."

      How does choosing to have sex with a robot reinforce stereotypes about women or relationships with women?

      What's the difference between a robot and the billion dildos and vibrators women buy every year?

    5. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Dildo's give hetrosexual women more options. That's empowering. Sexbots give hetero men more options. That's misogynistic.

    6. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's just the same old puritan sexuality-is-evil argument dressed up in "progressive" lingo.

    7. Re:makes no sense to me by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

      The robots are designed to be as human like as possible in appearance and in the way that they move. The key difference is that unlike human women they are souless sex slaves who only exist to fulfil their owners every desire. I can see why she finds it distasteful - I think I'd feel a bit odd about a cotton picking robot that was designed to look like a black slave, complete with stereotypical attributes and "broken slave" personality.

      Of course it applies for male sexbots too, before someone complaints about that.

      By the way, the way that porn negatively affects some people's attitudes towards their partners, particularly teenagers (who shouldn't own a sexbot, but inevitably will gain access to them just like porn) is quite well documented. Part of modern sex education in UK schools is to point out how unrealistic porn is, and to counteract peer pressure to act like a pornstar in bed. The fear is that sexbots will create the same unrealistic and harmful expectations.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    8. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the way, the way that porn negatively affects some people's attitudes towards their partners, particularly teenagers (who shouldn't own a sexbot, but inevitably will gain access to them just like porn) is quite well documented. Part of modern sex education in UK schools is to point out how unrealistic porn is, and to counteract peer pressure to act like a pornstar in bed. The fear is that sexbots will create the same unrealistic and harmful expectations.

      You're not up to date: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2015.1023427

    9. Re:makes no sense to me by tsotha · · Score: 1

      By the way, the way that porn negatively affects some people's attitudes towards their partners, particularly teenagers (who shouldn't own a sexbot, but inevitably will gain access to them just like porn) is quite well documented.

      I see no indication this is true.

    10. Re: makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering she is a well known liberal LGBT, that's quite a stretch to blame the other side.

    11. Re:makes no sense to me by Provocateur · · Score: 2

      Do Androids dream of electric sheep
      Will I dream
      How does choosing to have sex with a robot reinforce stereotypes about women? ...and other unanswered questions were racing through my sci-fi addled mind, as I slowly undressed the Kardashian sexbot I had recharged for the weekend. Only 46 hours of pleasure till Monday, beer stocked in the fridge, pizza to be delivered soon...life is good.

      --
      WARNING: Smartphones have side effects--most of them undocumented.
    12. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      damm...you had me at "sex"

    13. Re:makes no sense to me by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      ...she left her e-bible this time

      --
      WARNING: Smartphones have side effects--most of them undocumented.
    14. Re: makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can you claim this is anything but progressive when it is our agenda. It's also the same reason we say women do not have the right to sell their bodies and to decide to not press charges in a DV case.

    15. Re: makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a hard time believing anyone claiming they are not just a gay lesbian but also a bisexual tranny.
      It just doesn't add up.

    16. Re: makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am...if you pay me enough.

    17. Re: makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. That is why these robots are wrong. You just know conservatives would be their biggest customers.

    18. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The robots are designed to be as human like as possible in appearance and in the way that they move.

      True, but they are still robots, not women.

      The fear is that sexbots will create the same unrealistic and harmful expectations.

      Lucky then that the sexbot can also satisfy those expectations, without the need of imposing those expectations on women.

      By the way, the way that porn negatively affects some people's attitudes towards their partners, particularly teenagers will gain access to them just like porn) is quite well documented.

      Even if true, so what? Are you going to advocate government-sponsored sexual orientation change therapy so that gay men end up having sexually more positive attitudes towards women? What business does the government have tinkering with what attitudes adults have towards their partners?

      Part of modern sex education in UK schools is...

      Well, hate to break it to you, but the British educational system just isn't very good.

    19. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How does choosing to have sex with a man reinforce stereotypes about women or relationships with women?"

      I recall a rather strong statement by a gay friend of mine. He wasn't happy with "tolerance" or "acceptance". His benchmark was that equality of sexual preference would only be complete once people chose to be gay if they wanted to. ...granted we were a few drinks in and he was hitting on me at the time, but I do think it's an interesting point of view to consider.

    20. Re:makes no sense to me by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are plenty of vibrating sex toys for men too, you know. They are just as empowering.

      Sexbots are not dildos. They are not plastic toys shaped vaguely like genitalia. They are realistic models of a human being. The more realistic, the better. I think most adults feel differently towards sex toys and human like robots, e.g. they don't find a phallus shaped vibrator falls into the uncanny valley.

      I'm not saying I agree with this person, but I don't think the comparison to simple sex toys is valid.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    21. Re: makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to operate under the assumption of a right / left divide where Puritanism is clearly on the political right and progressivism (US "liberalism") is clearly on the other side, the political left. In fact, neither assumption is correct.

    22. Re:makes no sense to me by rmdingler · · Score: 2

      But no, let's make this about women and how they are objectified.

      It's a make-up call. It's use is on the upswing.

      --
      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

      Ernest Hemingway

    23. Re:makes no sense to me by Megol · · Score: 1

      No it isn't a interesting point - it is a fundamentally misunderstanding how sexual preference work. A misunderstanding that I could understand a straight US citizen having - due to the media always presenting sexual preferences as a choice rather than something one is born with - but a homosexual person? Nah.

      But for those that "have a choice" (technically bisexuals) sure they should be able to "choose" to have sex with someone with the same gender. Which is true now legally and (_drum_roll_) would be true socially/"morally" if the level of acceptance would increase.

    24. Re:makes no sense to me by Dr.+Zim · · Score: 2

      Kardashian? You bought a Kardashian? Ha! You know they're outdated before they make it off the assembly line and way out of tolerance in the plumbing bits. I hope you got a good deal.

      --
      (name withheld by request)
    25. Re: makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It still doesn't add up. You'd have to be a hermaphrodite and have a sex change. But how do they add something that's already there?
      Fuck it, now you got 2 vaginas!

    26. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's a freaking robot, who cares what you feel about it? you are not involved no other people are involved.

      My vaccum cleaner is a souless slave that only exist to for fulfill my desire to the clean the floor

    27. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The kicker is that most dolls were soled with the swap-able genitalia and both genitalia.

      Is that for the foot fetishists, then?

    28. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't matter what she was saying, if she's a feminist then AmiMojo will defend whatever it is to his last breath.

    29. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How does choosing to have sex with a robot reinforce stereotypes about women or relationships with women?

      Because in her mind the sex robot will naturally take the form of a woman and not one that looks anything like her. So she thinks it will reinforce stereotypes of women with (a) unrealistic bodies with hip-to-waist-to-breast ratios that are all but impossible to find in nature; and, (b) unrealistic readiness for sex at all times. If men start having sex with robots like this, they'll start thinking women should be like this. That's her thinking, imho. I get that. But I think it's stupid and wrong.

    30. Re:makes no sense to me by MrKaos · · Score: 2

      Well, yours is the first sane comment I've seen on this discussion and with all the ad-homing of this woman, I couldn't figure out if I agreed or disagree with her.

      I think a sex aid of this kind could be very useful for people with disabilities to be able to use it in a way specific to their needs to maintain their mental health. Alternately, she does have a point and will it be used for someones messed up fantasy? Probably, but better a machine than a person.

      I suspect that the opinions of many of the people here would suddenly change if the discussion was about making a juvenile robot. I doubt they would feel so morally superior, after all it's just a machine, so it leads to the question of what sort of sex robot is ok? Is an animal sex robot ok? What about a juvenile animal sex robot? What about a cartoon animal sex robot, is that ok? Is filming two sex robots fucking considered porn or the instruction manual?

      Attacking this woman's looks or anything else before actually understanding exactly what her argument is kinda shows off a bit of a insecure beta male mentality I don't really buy into. Sex robots are probably inevitable, the market for them is massive and it's also kind of sad.

      One thing is for sure, it going new forms of human sexuality in ways we have never confronted and the morality police will be out there telling us right from wrong.

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    31. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It makes you wonder what she really thinks about herself when she thinks that sex-robot automatically means it is a female sex-robot.

      Way to insult yourself, dear.

      She is just another one of those people that is afraid of being lonely in her 50s because all the guys are banging sex-dolls and not her.
      Hey, guess what, you can buy a sex-robot too!

    32. Re: makes no sense to me by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't you have to be a bisexual tranny to be a gay lesbian?

    33. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh it's very well documented, depending on how little effort you'd like to put in to vet your sources for accuracy.

      I'm sure dumbfuck the GP will be along with MarySue level sources for you shortly :)

    34. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sexually, men are very visual. For a man, it's not enough to lie back, close the eyes, and turn on the vibrator.

    35. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the actual fuck is a 'juvenile' robot? A prepubescent machine?

      Please... Think *before* you hit "post".

    36. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are realistic models of a human being.

      Bullshit. They are realistic PHYSICAL models of a human being. Nuance isn't your strong point, is it.

    37. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just so long as they're fully functional.

      If Data was good enough for Tasha Yar....

    38. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      since this is slashdot, i assume he meant Cardassian

    39. Re: makes no sense to me by Immerman · · Score: 1

      What, you've never heard of the lesbian trapped in a man's body? In all seriousness though, it's not exactly uncommon for transsexuals to also be attracted to their chosen gender. Also not exactly uncommon for people, straight or gay, to be "a little bi". So I'm sure there's lots of people out there who can honestly claim all four titles.

      I'll agree though that anyone applying the LGBT label to a particular individual is probably just being lazy, and quite possibly trying to invoke it as a slur.

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    40. Re:makes no sense to me by c · · Score: 1

      The interesting thing and lack of basic reasoning skills comes from the fact that Dr. Richardson apparently can only picture sex robots as being a simulacrum of the female gender.

      Yes. If she wants to get wound up about sex robot ethics, she might get more support if she worried about someone selling sex robots that are a simulacrum of pre-pubescent boys.

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    41. Re:makes no sense to me by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Interestingly though, the scientific evidence (physical arousal monitoring to bypass cognitive filters) suggests that the vast majority of people actually are at least moderately bisexual. Most have a fair bias in one direction or the other, but it's largely cognitive processes - i.e. choice - that leads them to vehemently choose sides.

      This is especially apparent in the mounting evidence that homophobia tends to correlate well with repressed homosexual tendencies. Not really that surprising when you think about it - who is going to be more frightened that "The Gays" will spread their "contagion" than those individuals who can feel the temptation of that "corruption" because they're among those naturally inclined to homosexuality, but are *choosing* to behave heterosexually because of societal pressures and/or they're chosen self-image.

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    42. Re:makes no sense to me by Cafe+Alpha · · Score: 1

      The key difference is that unlike human women they are souless sex slaves who only exist to fulfil their owners every desire.

      The difference being that according to the materialistic, scientific view of the world, humans are soulless slaves to instinct who only exist to pass on their genes. I can see how the difference.

    43. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The robots are designed to be as human like as possible in appearance and in the way that they move. The key difference is that unlike human women they are souless sex slaves who only exist to fulfil their owners every desire. I can see why she finds it distasteful - I think I'd feel a bit odd about a cotton picking robot that was designed to look like a black slave, complete with stereotypical attributes and "broken slave" personality.

      Except that they aren't really slaves unless they're advanced enough to also be people.

      The ethical issue with sexbots is that there's probably going to be a period where they can pass a Turing test but no one's enteerily sure if they're people yet or just advanced objects. During that period there will probably be at least one technological generation of robot sex-slaves before the non-human rites issues are sorted out.

      However, that's a long way off. Right now we're talking about things that are clearly objects. You can't enslave or objectify a nonliving doll. And the argument presented in the article is asinine (that it's damaging to healthy relationships if the people who only want a sex object can buy one instead of having to negotiate with a person to get them to play the role).

    44. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personification of an object is not the same thing as objectification of a person. If you think about it, having a pretend relationship is actually less objectifying because you are at least imagining that if you had a partner you would see them as a full person and want to meet their emotional needs and not just use them for sex.

    45. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My vaccum cleaner is a souless slave that only exist to for fulfill my desire to the clean the floor

      Yes. "Clean the floor." I get it. *wink wink nudge nudge*

      Does it have the proper amount of suction?

    46. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I suspect that the opinions of many of the people here would suddenly change if the discussion was about making a juvenile robot.
      Sadly you're probably right.
      People are so stupid about that that they ban drawing of kids.

    47. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the actual fuck is a 'juvenile' robot? A prepubescent machine?

      Please... Think *before* you hit "post".

      It obviously means it is a representation of a juvenile as a robot. It is not hard to work that out - try taking your own advice

    48. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then read all the research papers on how porn and masturbation effects the brain and the people watching or doing it. If you don't bother to read the research, then of course you won't see it.

    49. Re:makes no sense to me by Pubstar · · Score: 1

      Attacking this woman's looks or anything else before actually understanding exactly what her argument is kinda shows off a bit of a insecure beta male mentality

      Actually, the beta male mentality would be agreeing with her without reading the article in hopes of trying to get in her pants.

    50. Re:makes no sense to me by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      The robots are designed to be as human like as possible in appearance and in the way that they move. The key difference is that unlike human women they are souless sex slaves who only exist to fulfil their owners every desire. I can see why she finds it distasteful - I think I'd feel a bit odd about a cotton picking robot that was designed to look like a black slave, complete with stereotypical attributes and "broken slave" personality.

      Of course it applies for male sexbots too, before someone complaints about that.

      By the way, the way that porn negatively affects some people's attitudes towards their partners, particularly teenagers (who shouldn't own a sexbot, but inevitably will gain access to them just like porn) is quite well documented. Part of modern sex education in UK schools is to point out how unrealistic porn is, and to counteract peer pressure to act like a pornstar in bed. The fear is that sexbots will create the same unrealistic and harmful expectations.

      Only on slashdot will an argument limiting the options for masturbation get a +4 informative score. Seriously, to the mods who modded this tripe up - do you really want a world in which you can only do "approved" masturbation?

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    51. Re:makes no sense to me by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Dildo's give hetrosexual women more options. That's empowering. Sexbots give hetero men more options. That's misogynistic.

      Dildo != sexbot

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    52. Re:makes no sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The robots are designed to be as human like as possible in appearance and in the way that they move.

      So are some video game characters. Would you like to weigh-in on whether we should be allowed to have those? Perhaps a ministry to regulate their behavior?

    53. Re:makes no sense to me by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      Is an animal sex robot ok? What about a juvenile animal sex robot? What about a cartoon animal sex robot, is that ok? Is filming two sex robots fucking considered porn or the instruction manual?

      Yes,yes,yes and yes.
      It's better than using the real thing.

    54. Re:makes no sense to me by RyoShin · · Score: 1

      you can rest assured that it will probably come in both gendered versions.

      Ooooooh no. If sexbots become a reality and moderately affordable, I doubt that the plain-male or plain-female will even break the top ten in number of sales. There are so many fetishes you can find on the internet that can't occur in nature right now, and sexbots can make many come to life instead of being relegated to drawings and stories.

      Without going into the more, uh, odd ones, an example would be a hermaphrodite (the "both genitalia" you mention). But that's still quite pedestrian given other fetishes a sexbot can bring to life...

    55. Re:makes no sense to me by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Is an animal sex robot ok? What about a juvenile animal sex robot? What about a cartoon animal sex robot, is that ok? Is filming two sex robots fucking considered porn or the instruction manual?

      Yes,yes,yes and yes. It's better than using the real thing.

      Would that be a Jessica Rabbit Robot?

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    56. Re:makes no sense to me by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      Bingo

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    57. Re:makes no sense to me by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Attacking this woman's looks or anything else before actually understanding exactly what her argument is kinda shows off a bit of a insecure beta male mentality

      Actually, the beta male mentality would be agreeing with her without reading the article in hopes of trying to get in her pants.

      or get on an internet forum whining that someone wants to stop them from fucking a robot.

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  8. Yeeeeaaaah.... by ldobehardcore · · Score: 2

    Good luck with that...

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  9. In other words... by bjwest · · Score: 2

    I am so disgusted by my own arousal at the thought of a lifelike sex toy that I must have them band for all, lest I give into the unholy temptation and have sex with one.

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    1. Re:In other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that's not it at all. This is clearly a feminist thing and she's saying that sex robots will create an image of women being merely objects.

      In other words this is another case of feminists wanting to control everything you think and do because their feelings are apparently more important than your freedom and rights.

    2. Re:In other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      even worse...we wont need women so they get panties in twist.....

      now you can be free ...it will cook it will clean , take out the garbage and get your groceries, it will cut the lawn , it will please you...gee what do i need kids for or a wife?

    3. Re:In other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      even worse...we wont need women so they get panties in twist.....

      now you can be free ...it will cook it will clean , take out the garbage and get your groceries, it will cut the lawn , it will please you...gee what do i need kids for or a wife?

      All of the ugly, insensitive men will be left alone to fuck robots, and only those men whom women truly desire will procreate. The evolutionary implications may be profound.

  10. Why? Sexbots could be great! by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sexbots for women and men might be the ultimate chance to remedy one humanity's greatest source of conflicts, ranging from the Troian War over annoyingly crazy teenagers to sexually frustrated housewives. They could finally stop men from objectifying women for purely sexual purposes. The effects of this change could be more beneficial than the pill and the invention of the vibrator taken together. In an age in which in-vitro fertilization is easy, it would be crazy to take away this unique chance for the evolution of humanity.

    1. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Men are always going to objectify women, it's in our DNA. The modern feminist response appears to be to objectify men right back, not as punishment but as a bit of harmless fun. So whatever.

      The problem with sex robots is the curious reversal of that old feminist mantra that we only need men to provide sperm. If a sex robot can provide sex and companionship and never argues with you, and we accept the feminist idea that some sexes literally have nothing to offer the world except to enable procreation, what role will women have left in society except to provide wombs? And even that can probably be automated eventually.

      But that would hardly be an improvement on the status quo.

    2. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      They could finally stop men from objectifying women for purely sexual purposes.

      Doubt it. There's no such thing as "getting it out of your system", only entrainment. Objectifying a woman-shaped sexbot will only train men (or women) to objectify women.

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    3. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a good thing you have proof (or even evidence) of that to back up your claims. Oh wait.

    4. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by bentcd · · Score: 1

      Objectifying a woman-shaped sexbot will only train men (or women) to objectify women.

      You're not seeing the long picture here.

      Once we have trained people to desire sexbots, we can start slowly morphing the sexbots away from looking like women (or men for that matter) and over to some other form entirely. In the end, when the sexbots look completely non human like, we will have trained men to feel no sexual desire to woman-shaped forms at all and everyone wins!

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    5. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      the ultimate chance to remedy one humanity's greatest source of conflicts, ranging from the Troian War

      From my reading of history, that war was designed for her pleasure.

    6. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But that would hardly be an improvement on the status quo.

      I disagree. I've seen far too many cases where people jump into or stay in relationships for the wrong reasons.
      If we can get to a point where interaction with other people (Was about to write people with the opposite sex here but that is a bit limiting.) is completely optional then perhaps people will have relationships with people they actually love instead of staying in relationships for economic reasons or for sex.

    7. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cubes are probably the safest shape.

    8. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except women who then no longer have the monopoly on fulfilling sexual desire to straight men, that would greatly reduce the value on that "currency"

    9. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Dins · · Score: 1

      In theory, yes. However in reality women would just be pissed because we no longer find them attractive. They want us to find them attractive when, and only when they want us to.

      I do like the way you think, though!

    10. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      Women do plenty of objectification too, or how did you think the Chippendales earned a living, their witty repartee and metrosexual househusbanding skills?

    11. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In theory, yes. However in reality women would just be pissed because we no longer find them attractive. They want us to find them attractive when, and only when they want us to.

      I do like the way you think, though!

      You are confused. You didn't slap on enough layers of emoting on that.

      They aren't just pissed because who and when. They secretly like the empowering feeling they get for being able to feel like they have the right to be pissed for having the wrong creeper looking at their conspicuously exposed bosoms. Women would be unhappy in a world of creepers too. Nobody to use to solidify their belief about where on the hierarchy they are. Like the caste system of old India, women need to step on someone's head to feel safe in their position.

    12. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Cederic · · Score: 1

      That'll be why all those vibrator using women treat men as the wasted space around a dick they could be thrusting deep inside them.

      Or maybe people can differentiate between electromechanicals objects of pleasure and people. Maybe.

    13. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      could we connect the robots to the sperm bank in a sort of "payback" scheme? There was something in the news about the Birmingham (you know, the original one in the UK, not the one in Alabama) sperm bank having only 9 registered doners. We could fix that, and keep the feminists happy now that men are being 'milked' there's no need for us to be consorted with for any purpose.

    14. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They could finally stop men from objectifying women for purely sexual purposes.

      If you can say this with a straight face, then you're the target market for sexbots.

    15. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LMFAO speaks truth:

      Most girls I meet are quite savage
      Always tryna' grab up on my package
      The say I look yummy and they want a taste
      But I'm a human not a sandwhich.

      Sometimes I feel like llcooljay
      I make love not not wear them bootay
      But every girl I try to get to know
      Ends up tryin to do me

    16. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Men are always going to objectify women, it's in our DNA.

      I think it's worth pointing out here that the mainstream
      paleoanthropological view is that the first 99% of human
      history was completely egalitarian, contrary to the lay
      belief that cavemen were as violent and hierarchical as
      chimpanzees.

      Hunter-gatherers did not have inter-tribal wars, and respect
      for individual autonomy was practically their highest value
      (in the first half of the twentieth century, when they still existed).

      Having said all of that, I wouldn't dispute your claim that
      it's in our DNA -- for me, the fact that the chimpanzee part
      of the brain made a comeback (whenever people started
      owning land and property, and some had more of it than
      others) is evidence that it was only dormant, as opposed
      to properly deleted.

    17. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Objectifying a woman-shaped sexbot will only train men (or women) to objectify women.

      You're not seeing the long picture here.

      Once we have trained people to desire sexbots, we can start slowly morphing the sexbots away from looking like women (or men for that matter) and over to some other form entirely. In the end, when the sexbots look completely non human like, we will have trained men to feel no sexual desire to woman-shaped forms at all and everyone wins!

      The misogyny is strong with this one.

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    18. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Trojan War", heh. I get it. Ha ha.

    19. Re:Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Men are always going to objectify women, it's in our DNA.

      I'm not going to argue against an innate propensity toward sexual attraction being mostly physical (lust at first sight?) but I would be VERY surprised if you could point to any particular gene responsible for it.

  11. I offer conditional support by _merlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll support her movement as long as she also pushes to ban dildos, vibrators, clitoral stimulators, teledildonics, "fucking machines" and other female masturbation aids. No, I don't use masturbation aids, and I don't have a problem with female masturbation aids. I just have a problem with the horrific double standard. Feminists tell us that women who use masturbation aids are strong, independent and empowered, while at the same time claiming that men who use masturbation aids are disgusting perverts.

    1. Re:I offer conditional support by WindBourne · · Score: 2

      lol.
      Good points. At first, I thought that this was going to be a BS article, but in the long haul, this actually could get some interesting discussions on this. Not so much here, as much as in the mainstream press.
      How can a woman that is making the argument that this will objectifies and kills relationship, not say a single word about the most basest of sex robots that exists today and is used mostly by women?

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    2. Re:I offer conditional support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Exactly! Dildos perpetuate stereotypes of male sexual organ size.

    3. Re:I offer conditional support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really don't see the difference between a computer proxying for a human relationship, and a vibrator?

      Sure, get that chip on your shoulder out in the open, sure it's really wrong that fleshlights are viewed with disgust while rabbits are viewed with delight. But don't let it blind you to the obvious fundamental differences between a sex robot and an inanimate sex toy.

    4. Re:I offer conditional support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BTW, dude, fucking machines aren't female masturbation aids. They are porn props, invented by men for men's entertainment. There isn't a woman in the world who owns a fucking machine and uses it at home, any more than there are women who dress up as schoolgirls before they masturbate.

      Well, unless they're actually getting ready for school ;)

    5. Re:I offer conditional support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really don't see the difference between a computer proxying for a human relationship, and a vibrator?

      Sure, get that chip on your shoulder out in the open, sure it's really wrong that fleshlights are viewed with disgust while rabbits are viewed with delight. But don't let it blind you to the obvious fundamental differences between a sex robot and an inanimate sex toy.

      Uh, dude... robots are inanimate. That's kinda the whole point of the word "inanimate".

      Plus, the roomba equivalent of a male sex robot already exists.

    6. Re:I offer conditional support by msobkow · · Score: 1

      I think you underestimate the human capacity for the perverse and bizarre.

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    7. Re:I offer conditional support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I want the BLACK one, no wait, I want the PLAID ONE.
      Mam, you can't have that, it's my thermos.

    8. Re:I offer conditional support by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

      It's the "there isn't a woman in the world" comment I'm responding to as there was at least one woman in Maryland I believe who attached a dildo to a saber saw and had to go to the hospital because the dildo came off.

      No, I'm not looking it up :)

      [John]

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    9. Re:I offer conditional support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a reason the Muzzies support FGM. Women ejoying sex is perverse, according to a large population around Detroit.

    10. Re:I offer conditional support by _merlin · · Score: 1

      I read about that. She saw it in a porno, but rather than removing the blade to attach the dildo, she slipped a hollow dildo over the blade. Results were predictable.

    11. Re:I offer conditional support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      any more than there are women who dress up as schoolgirls before they masturbate.

      Apparently you know nothing about how women masturbate. Music, candles, the works. Why? Because it is fun.

    12. Re:I offer conditional support by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      It's the "there isn't a woman in the world" comment I'm responding to as there was at least one woman in Maryland I believe who attached a dildo to a saber saw and had to go to the hospital because the dildo came off.

      No, I'm not looking it up :)

      [John]

      You are being too literal. When someone says something like "there isn't anyone who would do X" they are implicitly not counting the psychotic or terminally stupid.

      If I said "there isn't a man in the world who would cut off his own balls to celebrate a sports victory" the fact that some Welsh rugby fan actually did this when they beat England does not invalidate the general truth of my statement.

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    13. Re:I offer conditional support by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      Yes, but presumably the idea of a "sexbot" is that it is indistinguishable from a real woman, not that it's just a slightly more complicated blow up doll?

      I don't think you can compare sexbots and dildoes.

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    14. Re:I offer conditional support by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

      Sure, but it's one that I recall. That doesn't mean there aren't quite a few more who indulge and did it right or at least didn't perform a DIY episiotomy. I don't follow sports so for all I know, some guys might just cut off their own balls but I don't think it's a fair comparison.

      [John]

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  12. This generation's Tipper Gore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you liberals.

    1. Re: This generation's Tipper Gore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She was a DINO so this is the Republican's fault.

    2. Re: This generation's Tipper Gore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct. It is the Republicans that want to deny the majority of programmers from the chance of having sex.

  13. Try googling her by abies · · Score: 2

    and half of images will be of sex toy robots. If somebody wants to start sex robot line, I would suggest naming lead model 'Kathleen'.

    BTW, what is 'robot ethicist'? I suppose they share university space with Post-scarcity Economics, Xenoarchology, Applied Fusion and Singularity Communication.

    1. Re: Try googling her by unami · · Score: 2

      a robot ethicist is the one who thinks about if a robotic car should kill you by evading a child or mow down the child instead. and about who is going to be sued afterwards.

    2. Re:Try googling her by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Actually we are deep into an Information Age, the study of robot ethics is a thing. Not long ago we were talking about how autonomous cars will decide who to kill when presented with a no-win scenario. That is robot ethics.

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    3. Re: Try googling her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A robot ethicist is what you get when a regular ethicist has sex with his robotic car.

    4. Re: Try googling her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 Would Laugh Again

  14. Wrong Side Of History by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try as the puritanical naggers might, they are ever against progress and are on the wrong side of history, as the battle against pornography shows.
    If you don't like sex robots, don't buy one. If you don't like that people might want sex bots, then start a campaign I guess.

    1. Re:Wrong Side Of History by Pikoro · · Score: 1

      "People Who Annoy You"

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  15. Fine with me as long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    as we can still have the killer robots. Those do not " further reinforce power relations of inequality and violence."

  16. She has no business banning anything by gweihir · · Score: 2

    This is just another utterly immoral attempt to force people to behave in ways some authoritarian POS wants them to. Whatever happened to freedom? The irony is of course that this comes form an "ethicist". Apparently one does not even need to know basic ethics to become an "ethicist".

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    1. Re:She has no business banning anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may surprise you to learn that the study of ethics actually goes beyond "absolute personal freedom at all costs" - in fact it largely consists of contradictions to that position.

      Are you able to address any of the points she actually makes, or do you just want to stake out the same well-trodden dogmatic ground as everyone else who can't be bothered to look past their own nose?

    2. Re:She has no business banning anything by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 4, Informative

      It may surprise you to learn that the study of ethics actually goes beyond "absolute personal freedom at all costs" - in fact it largely consists of contradictions to that position.

      Ethics is the study of right and wrong choices. Once the freedom to make such choices is taken away, ethics ceases to be involved. That is, if you outlaw sex bots, then the choice not to obtain a sex bot is not an ethical choice anymore, it is a pragmatic or utilitarian choice.

      Are you able to address any of the points she actually makes

      We have addressed the "points" she makes elsewhere. Here, we are discussing the contradiction inherent in an ethicist advocating authoritarian policies.

    3. Re:She has no business banning anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may surprise you to learn that the study of ethics actually goes beyond "absolute personal freedom at all costs" - in fact it largely consists of contradictions to that position.

      Are you able to address any of the points she actually makes

      The only contradiction here is that you she doesn't address contradictions while you claim that she does.

      People fucking machines have no ethical implications as long is it's their own machine and they do it in their home.

      The field of machine ethics is a complete joke. In the cases where they actually raises valid points the issue has yet do be resolved in non-machine related ethics. Almost always when they raise points that are specific to machines they are 50 years behind legislation in the matter.
      When it comes to automated watermills there is 800 years old legislation that deals with responsibilities and safety measures, yet machine ethicists show up and state that engineers has to take precautions so that machines won't hurt people!

      One would think that they would teach the current state of society in ethics, but apparently that is too much to ask for. It's easier to just assume that people who had to deal with real ethical dilemmas haven't given it a single thought and never attempted to come to a conclusion.

    4. Re:She has no business banning anything by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Ethics is the study of right and wrong choices. Once the freedom to make such choices is taken away, ethics ceases to be involved. That is, if you outlaw sex bots, then the choice not to obtain a sex bot is not an ethical choice anymore, it is a pragmatic or utilitarian choice.

      You are quite wrong.

      We already outlaw murder. That does not mean that the decision to commit murder becomes purely a utilitarian choice. Most people woulld still say it is wrong to murder.

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    5. Re:She has no business banning anything by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 1

      We already outlaw murder. That does not mean that the decision to commit murder becomes purely a utilitarian choice. Most people woulld still say it is wrong to murder.

      You're confusing "belief" and "choice". Yes, you may or may not believe that the act is unethical, but your choice is not an ethical one anymore.

      If you can't buy a sex bot, your choice of not using one is purely pragmatic; you never face any kind of ethical issues related to the use of sex bots. That's the situation that "ethicist" wants to bring about, and it removes ethics from the equation.

      If you can obtain a sex bot but laws against its use are effective and make it likely that you will get punished, you might quibble that the decision not to use one becomes a mix of utility and ethics. But in that situation, you would choose not to use a sex bot even if you had no ethical beliefs related to sex bots at all. Therefore, the choice is purely a utilitarian one (it's not affected by the ethical beliefs of the people making that choice), even though the people making that choice might still hold ethical beliefs related to sex bots.

  17. Well, ... a bit to late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Her argumentation can be applied, without amendments, to any (self-)masturbation and any aid for it (including written, imaged or video porn). Essentially, sex robot is just that - technologically advanced masturbation device.

    1. Re:Well, ... a bit to late by abies · · Score: 1

      Well, not really.
      Imagine reading about somebody whipping a slave in history book.
      Now, compare it to actually flogging naturally looking doll of said slave (of appropriate color), with that doll covering, making proper noises and bleeding as required. And doing that every day.

      Do you really think that mental impact of both activities is the same?

    2. Re: Well, ... a bit to late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You and other untrained feminist are wholly unqualified to say what, if any mental impact any of these activities will have. This is not intuitive stuff that you can just know without any sort of effort. Jeez you must be a millenial.

    3. Re:Well, ... a bit to late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus...you've thought about this too much. :P

    4. Re:Well, ... a bit to late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mentally, reading about it is neutral, while whipping the doll is acting out, dramatization of depicted narrative. However, it is not a fair comparison. Effectively, the person whipping the doll is still just imagining whipping the slave. She or he could imagine doing it, regardless of the existence of the doll (or even the whip). At the very least, that person is already a "damaged good", and possessing a fetish doll makes no difference for the mind of that person. Giving such a doll to someone won't make a monster of that someone, but will reveal monstrosity if it already exists.

    5. Re:Well, ... a bit to late by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      This is essentially the same argument that says realistic violent video games will produce violent individuals.

      Just as with violent individuals, the ones that cause problems were already violent; the person who wants to whip a slave is already defective.

      Furthermore, it would appear that the actual result of porn, prostitution, etc., is to reduce adverse events involving real people. Rape statistics go down, etc. The actual result is pretty clearly more along the line of pressure release than pressure enhancement.

      --
      I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
  18. What did she actually say, when and where? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    A few quotes from an academic without context may well produce a decent bit of clickbait, but I'd be interested to read the rest of "The Asymmetrical âRelationship: Parallels Between Prostitution and the Development of Sex Robots,".

    There doesn't seem to be a lot about this "campaign" apart from a few mentions in the media.

  19. I'm A Feminist ! Look At Me ! Stop ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another feminist who whinges about problems that don't exist, solely so to get attention.

  20. Before we had priests and churches....... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .....now we have ethicists as self appointed wankers.
    Seriously, what a waste of space.

  21. Useful for cattle and pig farmers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No more manual collection of semen...

  22. Should we ban dildos too? by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

    They reinforce traditional stereotypes of men and the view that a relationship need be nothing more than physical...
    Sexbots are masturbation aids, no more, no less. And I don't see anyone but the most hardcore fetishists see them as anything else but a glorified dildo or fleshlight.

    1. Re:Should we ban dildos too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      er, the view that a relationsship need be nothing more than physical is the exact opposite of traditional

      The traditional view saw relationships outside of marriage or courtship as no-go altogether
      Marriage itself was seen primarily as an economic union, with procreation and emotional support as secondary.

  23. What about Lem? by mlock · · Score: 1

    Stanislaw Lem already predicted quite a few things here... read the Star Diaries, although I believe that the matching story "Die Waschmaschinentragödie") isn't included in the English versions. http://derdeutsche.twoday.net/...

  24. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    welcome our new sexbot overlords.

  25. No to Fuck Buddies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    view that a relationship need be nothing more than physical

    She doesn't approve fuck buddies I guess. Relationships are what they are, all dependent of the persons/machines/animals/inanimate objects involved. There are many possibilities, and each teach something about life and death.

    will further reduce human empathy that can only be developed by an experience of mutual relationship

    Really? People have no inherent capabilities for empathy now?

  26. So what's the alternative for geeks? by nukenerd · · Score: 4, Insightful
    She said

    human empathy that can only be developed by an experience of mutual relationship

    So what does she have to offer or suggest to those people (men particularly) who have no opportunity to develop such an experience? In the West at least, a significant proportion of women have rejected men entirely, possible after one fling and a child. Equal wages and opportunities for women, as well as social attitudes, mean that it is no longer "essential" for a woman to find a husband as it was as recently as two generations ago. There are too many men seeking for the number of women available.

    1. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      Equal wages and opportunities for women, as well as social attitudes, mean that it is no longer "essential" for a woman to find a husband as it was as recently as two generations ago. There are too many men seeking for the number of women available.

      nobody said you had to get married however we still do have and want to do that biology thing. Having kids is also important because we need replacements.

      --
      Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
    2. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what does she have to offer or suggest to those people (men particularly) who have no opportunity to develop such an experience?

      Suicide? Feminists are not big on empathy for sexless men.

    3. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > In the West at least, a significant proportion of women have rejected men entirely, possible after one fling and a child.
      Citation needed.

      I would be curious to see some hard stats to back this up. But they probably don't exist since it probably isn't true. Of course the man-hating ultra feminist exists, but my guess is that they are an even smaller minority than the neckbeards.

      Maybe you confuse 'all men' with 'me'? You seem biter.

      To make your post even more wrong, this *is* actually a problem in cultures where one man can have many wives (because that automatically leads to a lot of single men) and these cultures tend to be in the east (except maybe some mormons).

      And to make it even more wrong, there is a large shortage of women in china (which we call the 'far east', from here in the west) because lots of girls were aborted or worse due to the one-child policy combined with a patriarchal society.

    4. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Having kids is also important because we need replacements.

      Yeah, I only had children for the spare kidneys

    5. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      a significant proportion of women have rejected men entirely

      That's rubbish. Women are not "rejecting" men. They just rejecting douchbags. In other words, they are less willing to stay in bad relationships.

      it is no longer "essential" for a woman to find a husband as it was as recently as two generations ago.

      Sure, but women still want long term relationships. They just have higher standards now, and MRAs are complaining that they won't reach down to their level. Plus, many men are rejecting marriage too because of all the bad press.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    6. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With an Oculus Rift, anyone can be a sex bot.

    7. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Our civilization does not need kids and I certainly do not see the point in producing children that have to suffer the presence of other humans around them besides of all other suffering that they will go true. Fuck there are hordes of morons even on Mt Everest (and everywhere else) today. Considering most of those humans are damned fast in turning into monster at will I do think our civilization should just die.
      GP did not mean that you have to marry and I did not even read it this way. The fact is some times ago in the Western Europe marriage was essential. Now it is not. Most of the bitches do not have any skills that would even allow me to call them good mothers so why should a man bother?

    8. Re: So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They demand higher standards while they themselves maintain thier lethargic levels of effort, reason, and accountability. Men do the rational thing and ignore them, and this is redefined to MRA, misogyny, and lol objectification.

    9. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bad press? Clearly you know nothing about what happens to men when their wives decide to leave them...a decision that is so much easier for them to make with the foreknowledge that THEY will be made whole after the divorce at the expense of their ex husband. She wants the house = PFA...go to court, lie about abuse -> man get's 5 minutes to leave the house, no recourse, just leave. If you want to get back, you have to wait 10 days...that's 10 days being homeless with no contact whatsoever with your children...yes, those children...the ones you have seen every day of their lives...except now. After 10 days you can challenge it in court. She still doesn't need a shred of evidence and courts are heavily prejudiced to protect women 'just in case'. If you lose, and the standard here is the preponderance of the evidence, not reasonable doubt, which equates to whatever the judge thinks (remember what I said about 'just in case'?), your name will be put into a domestic abusers database. Never heard of that? Neither did I until my ex wife pulled this exact process on me (It's called the 'Silver Bullet'...never heard of it? Your wife or girlfriend has.). A domestic abusers database is just like a sexual abusers database and like the latter, the former is almost impossible to get out of once you get in. At THIS time, some states take the domestic abusers database seriously...like Louisiana...and others don't. In Louisiana, being in the domestic abusers database can keep you from getting a job at any employer who checks the database...for life. So...when you go to court, you have a choice. You can negotiate...drop the PFA and sign away your right to ever return to your house or you can take your chances...maybe the judge is in a good mood today. I took the choice most men would choose when they have a gun to their head...just as the law was designed. THAT is literally the tip of the iceberg on how you will be abused by the state in divorce and family law. As a divorced dad you are completely a second class citizen and the state has little concern for you. They will confiscate so much money from you that you cannot pay your bills...and they know what they are doing because they know how much you make and what your expenses are. They watch everything you do all the time. Once the money hits your ex wife's bank account, the money that is supposed to be for your children, they have no idea what she does with it and they couldn't care less...that's literally, not figuratively. You are nothing but a wage slave until, if your lucky, when they reach the age of majority (18). In some states its until they finish college. During this time, you have no say in the upbringing of your kids (80% of mothers get primary custody) and all of them get default presumption of primary custody...you as the man must fight for the right to be equal (think $30000 to fight for the right to be equal). If you get behind on your payments for any reason, your license and other professional licenses can be suspended which, of course, can lead you to lose your job and your ability to pay any support. Next, a judge can decide that you are a deadbeat, convict you of a felony (contempt of court) and put you in prison (usually 6 months). While you are in prison, your arrears continue to accrue despite the fact that you have no ability to work while incarcerated. When you get out, you are expected to find a job and earn as much as you did before prison but this time with a felony on your record. Note that the judge can declare you in contempt for any reason. If there is a depression and 50% of the population is out of work, and you are one of those people, it is still the judges decision whether you are in contempt. My point is, any man in almost any western country, by signing a marriage license and/or fathering children (Not necessarily his own either. There are plenty of men who are paying child support for the kids of another man their wife had an affair with...but that is another story.), is taking a huge risk with his rights. Bas

    10. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      In the West .. a significant proportion of women have rejected men entirely, possible after one fling and a child. Citation needed. .... I would be curious to see some hard stats to back this up.

      Quoting John Davies "A History of Wales", a authoritative work, [ISBN 978-0-140-28475-1] for example, "a large number [of babies in Wales] were born to single mothers, who generally lived in poverty and isolation" He bases this statement on the UK 2001 census and further figures from 2003. Consult the census figures directly if you like.

      I'm assuming that you do not need a citation for males and females being born in similar numbers. Then clearly the Jocks who got those girls into trouble and dumped them will be back in the dating game the very next day (or do you need a citation for that?), whereas the girls withdraw from society, being too poor to afford baby-sitting, as Davies says. There are also the career women who never, or only briefly, have anything to do with men - have you never encountered any? Add the preponderance of males among immigrants to this. Then with the remaining nubile women outnumbered by seeking men, the more who pair up with eachother in marriage or partnership, the worse the ratio becomes among the remainder.

      Maybe you confuse 'all men' with 'me'? You seem biter.

      I have re-read my post and although you put all men in quotes, I do not see it anywhere. I am not even sure what your point is. Whether or not I am bitter (maybe you meant that) is irrelevant, I am discussing facts. It is another fact that I am married to a significantly more attractive woman than most, but that does not alter what I see around me, either way.

      To make your post even more wrong, this *is* actually a problem in cultures where one man can have many wives

      Why does that make my post wrong? I heartily agree with you there. I had a Muslim girlfriend once who wanted to get away from that culture.

      And to make it even more wrong, there is a large shortage of women in china... because lots of girls were aborted or worse due to the one-child policy combined with a patriarchal society.

      Why does that make me even more wrong? I heartily agree with you again, except you should have said "are aborted", not "were aborted". And you should add the fact that some of those far eastern countries (especially Thailand and the Phillipines, but China too) have made things even worse by exporting the flower of their womanhood to the rest of the world, the West in particular, as mail-order brides or prostitutes - the demand being due to the shortfall in Western women that I discussed above.

    11. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women are not "rejecting" men. They just rejecting douchbags.

      The problem with the feminism you adore taint-tonguing AmiMojo is that it keeps widening the definition of "douchebag". It used to be someone who beat up their partners without first being attacked. Then it became someone who defended themselves from a woman if attacked. Then it became someone who wasn't sufficiently feminine and in touch with his female nature, only that bullshit is still backfiring because women like masculine men and not hairpeg lesbians pretending to be men. And now it's morphed into men who sit wrong on the subway.

      Keep waving that flag sir lancealittle, maybe you'll get your pat on the head someday.

      But I doubt it.

    12. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When women reject men it is because of "douchebags". When men reject women it is because of "bad press".

      Sexist much? Douchebag is a sexist derogatory term for men just as much as bitch is a sexist derogatory term for women.

      Did it ever occur to you that men are rejecting women that are of low character and there just happens to be a growing number in that group? Of course not, because that wouldn't be sexist.

      I always find it amusing to see gender politics on slashdot because, like clockwork AmiMoJo comments over and over, gets modded +3 within seconds of posting regardless of content, then never responds to detractors and is modded down in a day or two. Clockwork sockpuppet-based social engineering. This is slashdot, the readership is more intelligent here. Nobody falls for it.

    13. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > In other words, they are less willing to stay in bad relationships.

      >Sure, but women still want long term relationships. They just have higher standards now, and MRAs are complaining that they won't reach down to their level.

      That actually sounds like a point in favor of sexbots.

      Women meet less jerks, jerks don't harm real women.

    14. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Haven't you learnt anything? Modern feminists and politically correct thinkers completely disregard the wellbeing of males. You're on your own.
      Her suggestion would probably be something like "learn to be attractive to females", because, for women like this, the only "ethical" way of men having sex is by exchanging it for a deep relationship with a woman in which he satisfies all her economic and emotional needs.

    15. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by umghhh · · Score: 1

      There is not even a hint of an indication that GP is bitter but assuming so - what is wrong with being bitter? You have anything against being biter? Maybe a person has a reason? There are huge enough numbers of bitches out there to make hell of a life for a certain number of men. The opposite is true too. Nature made us wanting company or else we would not procreate as successful as we do. That is a trick. It made us exposed to the other sex or in some confused cases to the same (from nature and species perspective it is just a failed try). Socializing is not always nice experience. Hence some people are bitter.

    16. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do we really though? Things are not looking up generally; our environment is almost damaged beyond repair, our world economies lurch from bubble to bubble, and the vast majority of world denizens live in poverty or abject poverty.

      It'll be a goddamn miracle if we escape these problems without a forced culling. If this was the answer, let's fuck some robots.

    17. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have seen precious little evidence that the "experience of mutual relationship" offers a positive benefit to society, instead of further reinforcing power relations of inequality and violence...

    18. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1
      Tip: put

      <br>

      to start a new line.

    19. Re:So what's the alternative for geeks? by manwargi · · Score: 1

      That too is the absurdity of trying to place restrictions on sexbots. The people who will most use them are the people who weren't especially sought after anyway. The smooth alpha types were never going to spend money on sexbots, they can attract anyone they care to for sexual purposes. Why should anyone care how the bottom-of-the-barrel demographic get their fixes if they bother nobody, and with this technology will be even more likely to leave alone the people who are repulsed by them?
       
      ...that said, I admit that I'm pretty certain that if the technology is allowed to develop unhindered, sexbots will be just like video games, personal computers, and the internet. In the beginning it will be a niche community of enthusiasts willing to navigate all the quirks and conditions of owning one, and once the technology gets sufficiently advanced and convenient, it will become more accepted and possibly even widespread.

  27. Somebody is starved for attention, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And for sex! She needs it bad!

  28. Robotics Ethicist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That "robotics ethicist" is a woman, right? Can't all get a gender studies position, right?

  29. Oh look... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The UK are demanding something sex related be banned again...

    Why am I not even surprised?

    1. Re:Oh look... by umghhh · · Score: 1

      Do Brits still sell Playboy only from the top shelf, in the paper bag with only a title visible? I bought an issue just to see what the fuss is about - they even bothered to censor it - some pages were cut! I thought then - wow better get out of the isle - when they have to do such things to stop perverts there from uncontrollable indulgence then it is really dangerous there. Give them all these sex dolls fast or else something bad may happen.

  30. It's not just about the sex. by Ada_Rules · · Score: 2

    Mal. Guy killed me, Mal. He killed me with a sword. How weird is that?

    --
    --- Liberty in our Lifetime
  31. Errr by elmer+at+web-axis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Where is the campaign to ban dildos. Aren't they simple sex robots that depict men who's only purpose is to sexually furfil women and then to be thrown in a draw?

  32. Competiton? by burbilog · · Score: 1

    It seems that she is afraid of competition from said sexbots.

    1. Re:Competiton? by tsotha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's really what's under the academic gloss. Sex robots will end up being banned because women want them to be banned. Just like prostitution, and for the same reason. Feminists are afraid of a loss of power.

    2. Re:Competiton? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      That's some weird doublethink right there. By standard MRA logic that holds women are afraid of losing power, they would also be pro prostitution because then they can divorce their worthless husbands, take all their stuff and force them to pay maintenance for the rest of their lives.

      This conspiracy theory doesn't seem to hold water.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    3. Re:Competiton? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By standard MRA logic that holds women are afraid of losing power, they would also be pro prostitution because then they can divorce their worthless husbands, take all their stuff and force them to pay maintenance for the rest of their lives.

      They can divorce their husbands, take all their stuff, and have maintenance paid no prostitutes needed as of now.

      Logic much?

      More than likely they want to score the high status male and keep him in check.

    4. Re:Competiton? by tsotha · · Score: 1

      That might have been true thirty years ago. But today women don't need an excuse to divorce their husbands. And not having an excuse doesn't affect the divorce settlement. You might actually look at what the MRA guys say before you give them straw men treatment.

      When I say feminists are afraid of losing power, what I mean is sexually satisfied men are going to be quite a bit pickier than they would otherwise be. It doesn't have anything to do with marriage except to the extent a lack of sex pushes men to marry.

    5. Re:Competiton? by umghhh · · Score: 1

      Vaginal wrench is the oldest tool known to wo/mankind. Damned if we are going to get rid of that!
      I loved the idea of (washing) machines you could have sex with, in an SF story I read long time ago. The technology is not good enough yet. But maybe we are getting there eventually. That is what I call progress.

    6. Re:Competiton? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they would also be pro prostitution because then they can divorce their worthless husbands, take all their stuff and force them to pay maintenance for the rest of their lives.

      This conspiracy theory doesn't seem to hold water.

      They already can do that regardless of who was the troublemaker that results in a divorce. If a woman is abusive, cheats, or otherwise creates enough problems that they have to end their marriage, they can still wind up with an outcome that benefits they the troublemakers.

  33. Wait until male sex robots emerge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, male sex robots are generally more complex task, but they will appear. And they will probably find wider market. Good luck to you then, stereotype fighters.

  34. Slashdot BIAS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'The campaign was spurred by news that some companies claim to be fairly far along in development of such technology. One company even plans to start selling them later this year.'

    Where's the link? Oh right, wouldn't want a balanced article!

    1. Re:Slashdot BIAS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Slashdot BIAS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a total dud, not self cleaning.

    3. Re:Slashdot BIAS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you wanna cum - use a condom.

  35. looking up fearbaiting on alphabet.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no surprises... our creators momkind have us coming & going.... what a relief... tears innocence truth & mercy = justice... spirit of creation all+++++++ undefeated since/until forever....

  36. Re: gy2 ,Re: Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's a great idea! Send all the feminists to India and let them fight it out with the rapists. Wonder who would win?

  37. Isn't it better to objectify objects by sabbede · · Score: 2

    instead of women?

    1. Re:Isn't it better to objectify objects by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 1

      It seems that objectifying women is better, or at least less bad than treating machines like humans.

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      Nae king! Nae laird! Nae yurrupiean pressedent! We willna be fooled again!
    2. Re:Isn't it better to objectify objects by sabbede · · Score: 1

      Oh, I hadn't considered it from the 'de-objectification of machines' direction. Very interesting!

    3. Re:Isn't it better to objectify objects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  38. Rather by elgatozorbas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "She believes that they reinforce traditional stereotypes of women"

    Sounds more like "women will lose the powerful tool of sex deprivation to control men".

    Not that anyone here will suffer from that a lot.

    1. Re:Rather by TheGoodNamesWereGone · · Score: 1

      +1. Dammit, my mod points expired yesterday

    2. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Supply and demand affects value.

      Men want sex (and other things of course), this creates a demand.
      Women supply sex (and other things of course).

      The balance between the two creates a percieved value. Men are willing to go to certain lengths and "pay" in a value women find important (dates, gifts, commitment) to get it.

      Sexbots would create a flood of cheaply "bought" goods on the supply side, competing with women and lowering the percieved value of what they have to offer, forcing them to work more on their own value (personality, looks, skill) to make up for it.

    3. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Another weird post. He never said "deny". And not having rights has nothing to do with "deny". Totally independent concepts. It is strange how you guys project your beliefs in arguing against something that was never said.

    4. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But considering that this is a mechanical device used for pleasure, then this is not about anyone denying someone sex - it's about assisted masturbation. It's not that using a dildo equals a man being denied sex, is it?

      Why would using another device, although more advanced, be a replacement for a relationship? It's not like sex dolls are a new thing...

      If I am a wonderful man who respects women and treat them fairly in every aspect of life, then humping a blue pony robot to hell and back won't make me a sexist pig. It will confirm I'm wierd, but if you knew me you'd know that already anyway.

    5. Re:Rather by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      Sounds more like "women will lose the powerful tool of sex deprivation to control men".

      A woman loses her ability to control a man with sex over a period of time. She doesn't lose her ability to influence other men; nor do other women lose that ability over her man.

      How about the overpopulation angle? It appears the internet of kittens and pron affect human birth rates negatively... the pleasure models would certainly help this decline.

      --
      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

      Ernest Hemingway

    6. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They may not have a right to it, but that doesn't stop them wanting it... a point lost on you when you decided to interpret elgatozorbas's statement as misogynistic. I didn't know you could deny something to someone only if they had a right to it... /mindblown.

    7. Re:Rather by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We've had 25,000 years of masturbation. Why would a technical upgrade to how we masturbate affect our relationship with women?

      The more I think about it, the less I think "sexbots" will change anything for the better or worse. Is there really a significant difference between fantasizing about having sex with {starlet of the month} with a box of tissues and a hard working left hand, and fantasizing about having sex with {starlet of the month} with your whatever being worked by a robot that looks just like her (but you know it's a robot)? (Written to assume, as the researcher does, a hetero-male scenario, but you can obviously substitute for other combinations)

      The sexbot might be (potentially) more fun, but ultimately it's still masturbation, a single lone person who's fully aware they're not actually having sex with anyone.

      --
      You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
    8. Re:Rather by silas_moeckel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Men have the right to sex, everybody has a right to have their needs met. The bigger picture is limiting men's access to sex. You have an entire culture that's based upon artificial scarcity of female sexual partners. Slut shaming is at it's root an attempt to keep other women in line. Monogamy is written into law as far as divorces etc etc etc. Willing prostitution is generally illegal (and been correlated to large reductions in rape and general male violence where is available and reasonably affordable). Social stigma that is associated with open marriages poly relationships etc etc seem to primarily come from women. Divorce is still heavily tilted towards women due to 60+ year old assumptions.

      At the end of the day a healthy relationship means everybody's needs are getting met, too many men an active sex life is a need. So that has to happen within the relationship one way or another for the relationship to continue and be healthy.

      So I would say men do have a right to sex and women do deny men sex. That right is not to any particular women. Too many times I've heard feminists go on about how it's unfair for a man to pressure/coerce etc etc a woman to have sex especially in relationships. Few couples have the same sex drive at all times. To say that men have no right to press to have their needs met in a relationship is abusive to the core. At the end of the day if your partner is unwilling or unable to meet your needs you have to figure out how to solve the problem, in general that can't happen without negotiations and each side giving. Yes that means some women may have more sex than they want, that's not male oppression rather the effect of societal pressure that's primary from women.

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    9. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with your assertion is the assumption that women don't want sex as much as men. They do. They just don't want it with you.

    10. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      some people use sex as a "currency" to get what they want, if sex is easily available from a machine that currency is devaluated

      it has nothing to do with demanding or rights

    11. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women do deny men sex in order to exert control. If a woman is in a physical relationship but refuses to have sex solely so that the man does not get sex, then that's a woman denying sex. If that should be acceptable behavior, then clearly the devastating punishment for having sex with another woman should be lifted as well. No, you can't have sex with me, but don't you dare fuck someone else? But this campaign tops it: No, you can't have sex with me, but don't you dare masturbate with a machine. Or, after looking at the "researcher": If you're not going to fuck me, let's see if taking your toys away changes your mind.

    12. Re:Rather by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Men have the right to sex, everybody has a right to have their needs met.

      No. Sorry, there is no right to sex. Absolutely not. You have no right to force/demand other human beings have sex with you to fulfil your "needs". That's pure misogyny.

      Would you be okay if some guy demanded to have sex with you, because they "need" to? I think that is very, very doubtful.

      You have an entire culture that's based upon artificial scarcity of female sexual partners.

      No, you have entire culture built on not wanting to sleep with douchbags. Like it or not, sex is not just this casual thing. There are risks that no form of contraception completely eliminates, especially STDs. There is risk in just hooking up with someone you don't know well too, because a small number of them will try to rape or rob you, or sabotage your contraception (guys who don't like condoms, women who want children etc.) So if you are just some random bloke in a bar, people are not denying you sex. They are declining the risk you represent.

      If you want sex, get to know a nice women and she is much more likely to want to get naked with you. If you want to sleep with other women as well, find one who is up for that, but don't blame them if they don't want to take the risk of sleeping with someone who sleeps with multiple other people too.

      Too many times I've heard feminists go on about how it's unfair for a man to pressure/coerce etc etc a woman to have sex especially in relationships.

      That's called "rape", and it's illegal in many places. Doesn't matter if your sex drive doesn't line up with your partner's, you don't have a right to rape them. You can talk to them about it like an adult, try to find a solution.

      Not having your needs met does not entitle you to take what you want. It just means you need to reconsider your relationship, or ask why few people want to have sex with you.

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    13. Re:Rather by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Is there really a significant difference between fantasizing about having sex with {starlet of the month} with a box of tissues and a hard working left hand, and fantasizing about having sex with {starlet of the month} with your whatever being worked by a robot that looks just like her (but you know it's a robot)?

      Let's answer that.

      Women in magazines tend to be airbrushed and are, for the most part, fairly unrealistic. There are negative consequences to this, like people having unrealistic expectations. So it's not an ideal to strive for, just what we have now. For most of the 25,000 years you claim humans have been masturbating for (I'll take your word for it) such images have not been available, and it didn't seem to be detrimental in any way.

      Sexbots... Well, it depends on the type of robot I suppose. If it's just a mechanical hand jacking you off, that's quite different to an ultra-realistic simulation of a human being. It starts to become like the magazine models, an ideal that real women can't live up to. This leads to a more general debate about robot body types, which has already begin with manikins. Gap were heavily criticised for their "death cam chic" models in shops, that looked like the victims of starvation.

      If you want to get into the "fully aware it's not real" argument, I again direct you to discussion of photoshopped magazine models.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    14. Re:Rather by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Sounds more like men will come to expect sex on demand

      Ah...the GOOD old days!!

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    15. Re:Rather by cayenne8 · · Score: 0

      You have no right to force/demand other human beings have sex with you to fulfil your "needs". That's pure misogyny.

      Err, no..that's called "marriage".

      That is part of the marital contract...and if you don't have sex enough with your mate, that is grounds for termination of said marriage in most states.

      NO, you don't have expectation to be able to have sex with any stranger on the streets, but if you enter into marriage, that is something that IS expected and pretty much considered a right within that form of legal relationship.

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    16. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds more like men will come to expect sex on demand, as some apparently already do.

      And women don't? At least men don't feel they have the right to get free stuff along with the sex too...

    17. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no right to force/demand other human beings have sex with you to fulfil your "needs". That's pure misogyny.

      Err, no..that's called "marriage".

      That is part of the marital contract...

      While I agree that sex is something one should be able to expect in a marriage (and that goes both ways, mind you), comments like that are plain scary. Nobody should be forced to have sex with anyone.

      If you need to coerce your wife into having sex with you then you're seriously doing it wrong. If your wife uses sex deprivation as an instrument of power then she's doing it wrong. In either case a divorce or at least marriage counselling should be considered. Neither situation should ever occur in a normal marriage. Ever.

      What does this have to do with sex bots anyway?

    18. Re:Rather by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That is part of the marital contract...and if you don't have sex enough with your mate, that is grounds for termination of said marriage in most states.

      Correct. You have the right to end your marriage, not the right to demand sex. The law does not force your spouse to open their legs for you.

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    19. Re:Rather by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      There is a reason that you "consummate" the marriage. IN many places, if she won't fuck you at least once..there is no marriage.

      Long tradition....

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    20. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Holy fuck you're a horrible person.

      But he's right. The flip side of making infidelity grounds for divorce is that withholding sex is also grounds for divorce.

    21. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with your assertion is the assumption that women don't want sex as much as men. They do. They just don't want it with you.

      It doesn't matter if she wants sex or not to anybody else. That's HER problem.

      And, so what? Women can always get sex, it's just not that they can get sex from who they want. Men, can't always get sex period (without paying for it) let alone the choice on a whole spectrum of quality.

      Women complain about not getting sex, there is ALWAYS some man willing to give it to them. The same is not true with men. Those are two very different sources of the same problem.

      Take a look at the photo of the woman "researcher" and make an honest assessment on if she's not getting sex because she doesn't want it, or because she's low on the priorities list of men that want sex. She doesn't like this thing because she'll lose what little remaining of her quickly fading power she has. If it were a man, it would be coming in the form of a mid-life crisis and a Corvette.

    22. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The law requires things under threat of punishment. The punishment for withholding sex is the same as for infidelity. But you're right, the police will not come and hold her down so that she can be fucked.

    23. Re:Rather by Faust6 · · Score: 1

      In the market for sex, women have the leverage - they are the sellers. Demand among males is much higher.

    24. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this flamebait? It's ignorant and entitled, but far from flamebait.

    25. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no right to force/demand other human beings have sex with you to fulfil your "needs". That's pure misogyny.

      Err, no..that's called "marriage".

      That is part of the marital contract...and if you don't have sex enough with your mate, that is grounds for termination of said marriage in most states.

      NO, you don't have expectation to be able to have sex with any stranger on the streets, but if you enter into marriage, that is something that IS expected and pretty much considered a right within that form of legal relationship.

      And yet, in the modern world, marital rape is illegal. Sure, you can divorce your spouse if they don't have sex with you, but with no fault divorce, you don't even need a reason to divorce them.

    26. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no right to force/demand other human beings have sex with you to fulfil your "needs". That's pure misogyny.

      Likewise, I suppose you are against taxation, as no one should be able to force another for their needs, yes?

      And you should be opposed to women having the vote, as there is no conscription for them, they shouldn't be able to vote others into defending them?

      Just asking for consistency here.

    27. Re:Rather by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      he law does not force your spouse to open their legs for you.

      It does inflict heavy fines if you don't drop your pants for her though. Poor, poor women.

    28. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's pure misogyny.

      Men don't just fuck women. Dear God, do you people not understand that gay and bi men exist?

    29. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firstly, I think you're an overly-emotional sentimental pussy. Let's just get that out of the way.

      There are negative consequences to this, like people having unrealistic expectations.

      Such as what?

      A lot of young men aren't getting married and are disappointed in sex because of porn. Possible effect (these things ARE happening, but correlation != causation): fewer young men are having to get divorced due to not getting married (i.e. taken to the cleaners then raped in family courts), the birth rate is declining, an epic amount of weed is being smoked and more Playstation being played. Sports cars are being purchased; multi-thousand dollar/pound/euro engagement rings not so much. Sexbots would kick this up a notch.

      In western society we don't even have enough fulfilling jobs for the people who are currently looking, let alone natural resources over the long haul. Why breed more?

      I'll tell you why this hack of a 'researcher' *thinks* this is an issue (I'll match her lack of research with my own empiricism of the many venues I've lived): the pussy is losing power over men. That's it. It's sexual economics. The Porn Myth alludes to this.

      I was married *once* and was not stupid enough to repeat the mistake. When dating (I'm a graduate degreed engineer who dates other professionals), I'm seeing a constant flow of 'women who wanted to have it all'.. and waited until they're 35-45 to start looking for a husband. It's not my problem, and not my gender's problem. Female entitlement in western society has become legendary. Men's issues such as suicide and combat related PTSD are swept aside and minimized for shit like the author above brings up.. for something that *might* happen. I work with co-op grad students, and sometimes the males that ask me for advice off the clock. Over a few beers I ruin them for the opposite sex because I show them the truth in that they are going to be used and manipulated, and the best way around it is not to play the game. You can be hetero and still not want a woman. The sexbot is the way forward.

      Thankfully RISUG/Vasagel is on the way. No more entrapment. No more strings. *If* sex occurs, it will be on even footing. The power of the pussy and the womb diminish further.

      If I want to get off with a hottie sexbotthus avoiding a woman's emotional bullshit, that's *my* prerogative, motherfucker... and quite simply, in my country with the walls falling on stuff like marijuana, this ban will never get off the ground. Most people just don't give a shit what you do in your own bedroom any more, and if it disenfranchises women in the sexual market place (where they've had a decisive advantage for CENTURIES) more power to the 'bot.

    30. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The sexbot might be (potentially) more fun, but ultimately it's still masturbation, a single lone person who's fully aware they're not actually having sex with anyone.

      You have a weak imagination, or perhaps have no memories of actual fucking to project into your masturbation.

    31. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Sorry, there is no right to sex. Absolutely not. You have no right to force/demand other human beings have sex with you to fulfil your "needs". That's pure misogyny.

      But.. if we purchase a sex bot we *would* have a right to sex with the bot.. correct? It seems like you wish to take that away before it even arrives.

      If you want sex, get to know a nice women and she is much more likely to want to get naked with you.

      But what if we're hetero and don't want to be nice (which is emotional labor)? Why not the robotic option?

      You're a misandrist. People like me shun people like you, until you try to shove your pussy on a pedestal values down our throat, then you get beaten in person, at the electorate, and in the courts.

    32. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      At the end of the day if your partner is unwilling or unable to meet your needs you have to figure out how to solve the problem, in general that can't happen without negotiations and each side giving.

      I'll never understand my wife.

      She doesn't like cleaning the house; I hired a woman to do that for her and she was happy.

      She doesn't like giving me blowjobs; I hired a woman to do that for her and she got all mad!

    33. Re:Rather by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Your logic being what, exactly? The reply doesn't match the quote, or perhaps you failed to understand the quote (hard, because it's not a lot of words, but I am talking to a group that regularly refuses to believe someone is saying what they actually are saying)

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    34. Re:Rather by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Sexbots... Well, it depends on the type of robot I suppose. If it's just a mechanical hand jacking you off, that's quite different to an ultra-realistic simulation of a human being.

      Yes but what of it? It's still not sex with a human being. Unless the human is actually being tricked by the robot, there's no chance whatsoever they'll believe this is anything but a form of masturbation.

      If you want to get into the "fully aware it's not real" argument, I again direct you to discussion of photoshopped magazine models.

      I would say that discussions of photoshopped magazine models are themselves ludicrously off-topc, unless you're saying there are photoshops so convincing out there that there are people who are convinced they're looking at a real person and not a sheet of paper or computer monitor.

      I would suggest that someone who's that far gone probably has enough problems that they probably require 24/7 supervision.

      This is pretty basic stuff. If you're aware that it's a machine, you know that you're engaged in masturbation. And as we're not talking about some edge case of abuse where people might program robots to hook up with victims who are completely unaware that they're dealing with a robot, but normal, everyday, use of these devices, I don't see how we're talking about anything but the latest version of an activity that's literally tens of thousands of years old (and probably older if you want to include ancestor species.)

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    35. Re:Rather by silas_moeckel · · Score: 1

      Force != demand, it's perfectly legitimate to say I need more sex or this relationship does not work for me as my needs are not being met. You're assuming a relationship binary. Women are perfectly capable and do demand sex just because on average them seem less likely to does not make it a male misogynistic issue. Since I would never be in a relationship with a guy it would be impossible for a male relationship partner demand sex, but women can and do demand sex and it's part of a healthy relationship to make these wants/needs know and deal with fulfilling them.

      You're trying to twist in random strangers making demands of others, what part of in a relationship do you not understand.

      Pressure/coercion are not rape, it is perfectly fair to say hey I need more sex or this relationship does not work for me and needs to end. Yes thats is pressure and coercion you're threatening to end a relationship if your needs can not be met within it's confines. Again you're jumping to something entirely different force. It's not 60 years ago women are not dependent on men as they once were. To construe having any repercussion for refusing sex as rape is abusive of men and people in general. Sure there are some nonviolent methods that can and should be considered rape, primarily extortion and abuse of authority.

      Please note I've tried very hard to ignore the multiple you statements, it's not about me nor do I care for the personal attack that implies.

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      No sir I dont like it.
    36. Re:Rather by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Well, there was a study I read about that found that, on a college campus, 20% of the men were getting 80% of the sex. So it's not just him; women don't want sex with average-looking guys at all, they all just want to chase after the football stars and the like.

    37. Re:Rather by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      No. Sorry, there is no right to sex. Absolutely not.

      I'm pretty sure masturbation technically qualifies as "sex". So unless I'm mistaken about that, then yes, there IS a right to sex. Just not with other people.

    38. Re:Rather by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but they can't all fuck the rich and handsome guys, there's not so many of them, so if they want sex with one of the alphas but won't do it with their actual boyfriend it doesn't really matter for the poor guy that women actually want sex as much as guys since he isn't getting any.

    39. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Sorry, there is no right to sex. Absolutely not. You have no right to force/demand other human beings have sex with you to fulfil your "needs". That's pure misogyny.

      Thanks for putting every relationship into the same box.

      I believe that my fiancee has a right to sex. If she wants to have sex, we're having sex. I feel that it is my duty as her fiance to do my best to make her happy.

      It's not only "okay" if she demands to have sex with me, it's expected. I suppose you think I'm living in some misandrist hell where I'm being raped on a regular basis?

    40. Re:Rather by AdamThor · · Score: 1

      I guess I never considered the brony sex toy, but now I guess I have to.

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      -- "Oh. This guy again."
    41. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you do us all a favor and fuck off? The adults are trying to have a discussion here.

    42. Re:Rather by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      No. Sorry, there is no right to sex. Absolutely not.

      I'm pretty sure masturbation technically qualifies as "sex". So unless I'm mistaken about that, then yes, there IS a right to sex. Just not with other people.

      This implies that if you both arms and can't have them replaced, the government owes you a blowjob machine.

      I guess there's worse things we could do to the world.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    43. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not in South Carolina - living together under one roof as "husband and wife" is enough.

      I'm sure other southern states are equally screwed up.

    44. Re:Rather by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Unless the human is actually being tricked by the robot, there's no chance whatsoever they'll believe this is anything but a form of masturbation.

      Well, let's talk about that, eh? Is it really necessary for someone to believe that the robot is a person for them to train themselves to have behavior and even feelings towards humans by interacting with the robot? Or does it only have to pass a certain basic level of human-like behavior and appearance before it's a valid stand-in? I can't help but notice that the people who are dressing up as animals and fucking one another grew up watching cartoons featuring anthropomorphic animals. I also note that people treat machines as if they were living beings already, albeit ones you don't treat very well; most people find it acceptable to smack them around, for example.

      I just attended a festival where a drunken interaction that I didn't witness (but did hear) went something like this: (woman) "Stop following me around!" (woman slaps man) (man punches woman right in the face). That's an example of someone who learned somewhere to punch people in the face when they do something they don't like. Maybe in school, that's a place where people just get away with crap like that on a regular basis. Now, you might also argue that it's also an example of someone who learned to slap people in the face, but you're god damn right she did. Often, that has the desired effect when she's being followed and harassed, and in a semi-public place. Clearly, it didn't work out in this situation. Now, are you going to seriously tell me that people won't smack around their sexbots? And are you seriously going to tell me that they're not going to have enough of a personal attachment to something they're fucking to learn all the wrong lessons from doing that?

      I don't see how we're talking about anything but the latest version of an activity that's literally tens of thousands of years old

      Which activity? Fucking, or jerking off? Because the two are not the same thing, although you can do both at once. Fucking a robot that is meant to act like a person blurs them together. But because we're still squishy meat machines, we still have feelings which are associated with the act.

      I think that sexbots are going to have negative repercussions, and the only way I can think to avoid them is to make them into spies which would also have negative repercussions.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    45. Re:Rather by Chrontius · · Score: 1

      Bad-Dragon already makes a line of pony-themed sex toys, offering both poles and holes.

      You know, if you intended to consider them in more than a purely academic way.

    46. Re:Rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you do us all a favor and fuck off? The adults are trying to have a discussion here.

      I tried, but your mother was busy.

    47. Re:Rather by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Is there really a significant difference between fantasizing about having sex with {starlet of the month} with a box of tissues and a hard working left hand, and fantasizing about having sex with {starlet of the month} with your whatever being worked by a robot that looks just like her (but you know it's a robot)?

      Let's answer that.

      Women in magazines tend to be airbrushed and are, for the most part, fairly unrealistic. There are negative consequences to this, like people having unrealistic expectations. So it's not an ideal to strive for, just what we have now. For most of the 25,000 years you claim humans have been masturbating for (I'll take your word for it) such images have not been available, and it didn't seem to be detrimental in any way.

      Sexbots... Well, it depends on the type of robot I suppose. If it's just a mechanical hand jacking you off, that's quite different to an ultra-realistic simulation of a human being. It starts to become like the magazine models, an ideal that real women can't live up to. This leads to a more general debate about robot body types, which has already begin with manikins. Gap were heavily criticised for their "death cam chic" models in shops, that looked like the victims of starvation.

      If you want to get into the "fully aware it's not real" argument, I again direct you to discussion of photoshopped magazine models.

      Your argument boils down to "must reduce options to ensure expectations are kept realistic". You must be mad to suggest that a reduction in sexual options is a good thing for society.

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    48. Re:Rather by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Men have the right to sex, everybody has a right to have their needs met.

      No. Sorry, there is no right to sex. Absolutely not. You have no right to force/demand other human beings have sex with you to fulfil your "needs". That's pure misogyny.

      Would you be okay if some guy demanded to have sex with you, because they "need" to? I think that is very, very doubtful.

      Correct there is no right to sex. But here you are arguing for a right to limit masturbation to what you consider acceptable. What the fuck is wrong with you? You think there is no right to sex but there *is* a right to limit it even when only a single party is involved?

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      I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
  39. campaign to ban by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >campaign to ban
    You are not to decide what I can or cannot do.
    As long as it does not affect you - fuck off.
    I'm sick of you leftist scums.

    1. Re:campaign to ban by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am what you could describe a leftist scum (by right wing idiots) and I object to mixing me with this stupid and evil woman.
      I am also quite often depicted as neo-nazi because I question media fed idiocy often enough. I still do not like mixing me with this stupid end evil woman.

    2. Re:campaign to ban by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sick of you leftist scums.

      Now, now, how do you know she's a leftist scum? Maybe she's comparing sex bots to devil weed which makes her rightist scum that decides what you can or cannot do.

  40. There are other things wrong with her argument by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    Sure let's make a million of them. For testing. Now drop them in the Middle East, the terrorist training areas. Before they are taught how to have sex with their camels. Or make homemade bombs out of fertilizer, and other household goods. Hey guys, the virgins we were promised are here, early delivery! Everybody would be trying to get these bots in unusual contortions before the bots suddenly explode, nuking the desert back to the stone age.

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    1. Re:There are other things wrong with her argument by DutchUncle · · Score: 2

      The booby-trap idea makes for a good movie, but consider just letting them have the sexbots gratis. Either the leaders lose control, or they have to get half of their soldiers to shoot the other half.

    2. Re:There are other things wrong with her argument by manwargi · · Score: 1

      Removing the hostile part of that would still result in sufficient chaos. The whole 72 virgins pitch wouldn't be nearly as much of a sell if the young men are having their fill of Lucy Liu-Bots.

  41. Objectification of objects! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Must be stopped!

  42. Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They'll get my AutoBlo when they pry it off my cold, dead crotch.

    1. Re:Likewise by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      She believes that they reinforce traditional stereotypes of women and the view that a relationship need be nothing more than physical."

      I knew it had to be a chick raising these objections as soon as I read the reasoning.

      Broadly speaking (no pun intended), females relate sex to emotional and relationship feelings and thoughts. While men do derive pleasure from combining "love" and sex, it isn't always necessary. Sex just by itself for physical pleasure is great and one doesn't always even need to know or remember her name.

      Again, very broadly speaking, this isn't something in the female mentality, or at least it has not been....till recently I do see changes in female attitudes towards this..but I don't think it is still nearly as prevalent as with mens thinking and easy ability to separate emotion from the physical act.

      It is often been said that one sure cure to world over population would be to perfect some sort of artificial sex, be it virtual or some type of robot, that is so real feeling.......and basically you'd have a ton of men who would have their physical needs fulfilled, without having to put up with the nagging, and emotional baggage that comes with women (not to mention potential unwanted kids). I fear female popularity would drop a good bit. Not saying it is a good or bad thing, but I could see it potentially happen.

      I mean, there's an old joke that kinda sums it up....

      "Why did God give women tits?"

      "So men would talk to them...."

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    2. Re: Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Your post isn't much better than her reasoning.

      She's just a "family values" campaigner using the rhetoric of feminism in a weak attempt to bolster her position. You're repeating the same flawed arguments she's using in an attempt to rebut her.

    3. Re:Likewise by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Again, very broadly speaking, this isn't something in the female mentality, or at least it has not been....

      The existence and popularity of dildos invalidates both your position and hers.

    4. Re:Likewise by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      That post ^^^ is what mod points are for, and it's dead-on.

      Men and women do view sex differently... for women, it fulfills an emotional need more than physical desire. For men, more about physical need (as to why, the answer lies with how men and women are mentally hard-wired in general. )

      For most men, as long as it is convincing enough in movement and sound during the moment, that is pretty much sufficient. For most women, the AI had damned well better be good enough to handle long conversations about highly emotional subjects, and that's not going to happen for quite a long time. Given the likelihood is a sufficiently sentient AI, I can see how women would more easily dismiss the idea.

      This woman in particular? I understand her position as well - it's hard enough for the average woman to compete for a man's attention as it is (unless she lives somewhere that women are a pronounced demographic minority, such as China). As a woman gets older, that competition only intensifies and gets harder to win... see also the stereotypical (but nonetheless too often true) middle-aged male dumping his middle-aged wife for some younger, prettier version.

      Now add a convincing-enough sexbot product to the mix, and I suspect that this won't be the only woman complaining rather loudly about it.

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    5. Re:Likewise by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      Dunno... most women will use it a crutch, but that little rubber toy won't validate emotions, cuddle with her, pamper her, take her out to dinner... women generally need more than the occasional orgasm to consider their sex-lives as being fruitful.

      Most guys on the other hand? Well, considering that a huge percentage of us guys treat women as not much more than disposable toys until full mental maturity? Well, you get the idea.

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    6. Re:Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sure, men are just big dumb sex-mad brutes with no need for relationships, and there have been no women in history that enjoyed a quick fuck. Totally.

      Used to think Slashdot was above this kind of shallow-minded crap.

    7. Re: Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stereotypes neither appear out of thin air nor are without exception.

    8. Re:Likewise by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      Most guys on the other hand? Well, considering that a huge percentage of us guys treat women as not much more than disposable toys until full mental maturity?

      So you treated your mother as a disposable toy? Please, spare us the glib stereotyping and rhetorical laziness, it's way beyond old and busted.

    9. Re:Likewise by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      I don't have sex with my mother either, or do you not know what context is?

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    10. Re:Likewise by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      And you never had any female friends you viewed as more than disposable toys until age 22 or so? I'm not saying that explains your comment but...

    11. Re:Likewise by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I knew it had to be a chick raising these objections as soon as I read the reasoning.

      BINGO, this was my thought exactly. I wish I could mod you up to a million.

      I knew it was a woman making the comments in the article the instant I read them. She wants to ban this sort of thing not because it's wrong, but because she's offended by it. Anything that gives men pleasure is viewed with suspicion, and doubly-so anything that might make guys less dependent on women for sexual gratification.

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    12. Re:Likewise by oakgrove · · Score: 2

      So, in other words, female sexuality good, male sexuality bad. Yeah, got it.

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    13. Re: Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Straight men don't have female friends. They have women they haven't slept with yet.

    14. Re:Likewise by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      Used to think Slashdot was above this kind of shallow-minded crap.

      You did!

      Come on, you've got to be kidding me.

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    15. Re:Likewise by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I'll bet she's an American woman too.

      Maybe if American women weren't so obese and/or afflicted with princess mentalities, then American men wouldn't care much about having a sexbot. I'd bet good money almost all the demand for these things is coming from American men.

      Just look at the statistics for how many Americans now are single (either separated/divorced or never married at all), it's going through the roof. There just aren't a whole lot of quality women out there any more. Part of this can probably also be blamed on our government and its policies which have created an obesity epidemic (which hits women harder than men, because women have more body fat naturally and lower metabolisms, so they have a harder time staying thin), and of course corporations which (because of profits and also government policies) create shit food that makes people fat. They don't have this kind of obesity problem in Europe.

    16. Re: Likewise by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Straight men can have female friends. Fat, ugly, old ones.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    17. Re:Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...it's hard enough for the average woman to compete for a man's attention as it is (unless she lives somewhere that women are a pronounced demographic minority, such as China). As a woman gets older, that competition only intensifies and gets harder to win... see also the stereotypical (but nonetheless too often true) middle-aged male dumping his middle-aged wife for some younger, prettier version.

      When I was a teenager and in my early twenties women didn't give two shits about me. But now that I have an education, skills, a career, and money I suddenly find that women listen to what I have to say and greet me with smiles.

      [insert generic misogynistic rant about how women are worthless and powerless aside from sex]

      If that rant weren't true then why would women be worried?
      If that rant weren't true then why is this story news on /. at all?

    18. Re:Likewise by Enigma2175 · · Score: 1

      They don't have this kind of obesity problem in Europe.

      No, they just have a "Obesity crisis of enormous proportions". And like usual, you blame the government, because it can't possibly be the fault of the obese people themselves.

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    19. Re:Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Owning a dildo for a female doesn't appear to carry any social stigma to speak of. Someone finds out male has a flashlight or a dildo? Not good.

    20. Re: Likewise by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Y'know how you can tell women are crazy?

      They used to do things that men liked. Then, they all got together and set their bras on fire, and marched in the streets, and said "WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THINGS THAT YOU LIKE".

      And, in an effort to get them to shut up, we agreed. Now, they don't do things that we like any more, and now, outside of fucking them, we don't particularly like them.

      And now, having excised every character trait they had that made us like them for their deeds, they say that we've reduced them to sex objects.

      They reduced themselves to sex objects.

      On a completely different note, here's a wikipedia link to a newspaper advertisement selling sex robots for women in 1913.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    21. Re:Likewise by vikingpower · · Score: 1

      Very good point. Moreover, in a recent discussion with a friend ( male ), we concluded that the price many women tend to demand for sex is simply too high. This "price" is mostly quoted in terms of involvement, of at least the promise thereof, or otherwise of exclusivity of feelings. Which conclusion of ours tend to corroborate your point.

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    22. Re:Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1/2 glass full vs empty. Dang researchers always talking up strawman arguments.

      Her research poses the 1/2 glass empty argument.

      Being a researcher here's the 1/2 glass full argument:
      Actually this could focus men's attention to more emotional and relationship feelings and thoughts via different mechanisms. Men would end up listening more to their partners vs being focused on one thing.

    23. Re:Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most guys on the other hand? Well, considering that a huge percentage of us guys treat women as not much more than disposable toys until full mental maturity? Well, you get the idea.

      Someone's been brainwashed by feminist dogma..

    24. Re: Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because women don't do dirty things with them, they use them to massage their cheeks and wrinkles!

    25. Re: Likewise by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 1

      They watch football, guys like doing that right? I don't enjoy watching professional football anymore, but then again I don't like watching sports where I'm supposed to root for a team because they are located near me when none of the players are from the area.

    26. Re: Likewise by Chordonblue · · Score: 1

      Man, I wish I had points right now... Preach it brother! :D

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    27. Re:Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ban dildos. Using the theories of this "researcher" its preventing women from becoming emotionally attached.

      And why stop there? Ban every sexually related product. . Lingerie, porn, perfume, butt plugs, sexy cloths, yada yada. Both woman and men should cover themselves from head to toe in a Burqas and wear ski-masks least anything material remotely distract our sexual attention.

    28. Re: Likewise by _merlin · · Score: 1

      On a completely different note, here's a wikipedia link to a newspaper advertisement selling sex robots for women in 1913.

      That isn't primarily a "sex robot" or masturbation aid, it's an electromechanical massage device along the same lines as the Hitachi Magic Wand. And it definitely isn't just aimed at women, half their testimonials down the left are from men. Yes, just like the Magic Wand I'm sure it was used as a masturbation aid as well. I'm quite possibly the only person with a Magic Wand used solely as a massage device, but whatever.

    29. Re: Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "They"? There is no "they". Women are not a monolithic hivemind entity. Thinking of them as such is a copout mode of non-thought for stupid, weak little simpletons who are too terrified to face the complexities of reality.

    30. Re:Likewise by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Again, very broadly speaking, this isn't something in the female mentality, or at least it has not been....

      The existence and popularity of dildos invalidates both your position and hers.

      Doesn't the existence and popularity of dildos validate the argument that women want more than sex? After all even dildo owners still want to date.

      I think that the current issue is that there probably isn't a similar sex toy for men; one that is as satisfying to a man sexually as a dildo is to a woman sexually. Once there is few men are going to put up with relationship baggage. We are already seeing a sway towards this as porn becomes more accessible and cheaper.

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    31. Re: Likewise by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Straight men can have female friends. Fat, ugly, old ones.

      You must be a bundle of joy at work.

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    32. Re: Likewise by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Now, they don't do things that we like any more, and now, outside of fucking them, we don't particularly like them.

      Sounds like a pretty good summation of the worldview of most Red Pill/MRA types out there.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    33. Re: Likewise by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      So what you are saying is that women used to suppress their own wants and desires and life goals in order to satisfy men. Then they liberated themselves and stopped confirming to men's ideals of what women should be, and instead did what they wanted to do, what made women happy and fulfilled.

      Some men prefer the older "sex object" model, and want to act like Kirk and sleep with the hotty of the week, only now the supply of women dedicating themselves to pleasing men has diminished greatly. Rather than trying to adapt themselves and form relationships with modern women, like most guys do, they complain and long for the bad old days. They feel entitled to have women conform to their ideals, and get upset when people point out that their ideals are actually terrible and reduce women to objects.

      Sexbots are very attractive to such men, because they are basically those 1950s women they lust after. Literally painted, groomed and dressed to please men and give them the sex they are entitled to on demand. The only thing that sexbots can't offer is continuation of the man's genetic line.

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      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    34. Re:Likewise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again, very broadly speaking, this isn't something in the female mentality, or at least it has not been....

      The existence and popularity of dildos invalidates both your position and hers.

      Yes, the problem isn't that women and men view sex differently, the problem is that women had a monopoly over male sexuality, whilst claiming their sex toys were better than any man.

      Men get a sex toy? That means men won't keep paying women for sex! And I don't mean through sex work - I mean the divorce settlement, the child support, the huge financial and legal burden in exchange for the occasional bonk.

      This gives men equality, which is why feminists hate it.

  43. well this is unexpected advertising. by unami · · Score: 1

    the industry need sexbots the same way the internet needs porn. no way around that, but thanks for bringing that forward.

  44. cunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can't understand normal thinking.
    Because she would rather let women be exploited and pimped out instead.
    Actually we just need to ban women from making decisions. The world would be a much better place. Instead of women like her wanting to do it "for the children."

  45. I for one, by CB-in-Tokyo · · Score: 1

    welcome our new Sexbot Overlords!

    1. Re:I for one, by Archwyrm · · Score: 1

      I welcome our Sexbot Overladies. But hey, your preference is just fine with me.

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      Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power. -- Mussolini
  46. Look at it from an economics perspective by swb · · Score: 1

    I like to look at this as something of an economics issue, with sex being an economic good (or service).

    Women oppose sex bots (and prostitution) because women function as something of a cartel that wants to establish a minimum price for sex. Historically, the price has been marriage but over the last 40 years or so the cartel has been willing to lower the price as the economic value of men has dropped -- women have vastly more economic opportunities and no longer see socially and legally enforced relationships with men as economically rewarding or necessary as they used to be.

    They haven't completely reduced the price to free, though, as for the most part the cartel still generally demands a price that men engage in forms of courtship and relationship engagement in exchange for sex.

    Women oppose prostitution and sex bots because they effectively break the cartel's monopoly. A sex bot (at least a reasonably realistic one) lowers the price below the cartel's general minimum price. They also have the economic efficiency of reducing the transaction costs below the cartel's and even below illegal prostitution and with fewer externalities, too. The cartel's price has an inherently high transaction cost and a lot of inefficiencies, although to some extent the cartel has been able to leverage technology to reduce transaction costs and efficiencies somewhat.

    1. Re:Look at it from an economics perspective by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      Women oppose prostitution and sex bots because they effectively break the cartel's monopoly.

      I thought prostitution was part of the cartel. Do you think prostitutes are free? Maybe they are a different cartel.

    2. Re:Look at it from an economics perspective by swb · · Score: 1

      They are competition. Even a $1000 prostitute is lower priced than a lifetime support commitment of a marriage.

  47. Try Eugenics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like Dr Kathleen Richardson has a problem with human nature. Shall I fire up the ovens?

  48. Don't Date Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A clip from Futurama
    https://vimeo.com/12915013

  49. Re: gy2 ,Re: Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This term "ego shooters" is retarded. No game is designed to make egotistical people have an advantage. They are just naturally more of an asshole and will do whatever to win. Therefore the term covers every online shooter in existence with a chat feature and is redundant so it should just be "shooter."
    In short, get your ass back on GunZ so I can wreck your newgen ass.

  50. The Devil's hands are idle playthings... by itsdapead · · Score: 2, Funny

    when they pry it from my cold, dead hands...

    Any sexual experience not based on a mutual relationship is bad, apparently - so they'll be taking your hands, too.

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    In a survey of 100 programmers, 111111 thought that duck-typing was a good idea.
    1. Re:The Devil's hands are idle playthings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention the contortion artists mouths.

    2. Re:The Devil's hands are idle playthings... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      You find your hand grabs you dick without your consent? Seek help.

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      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    3. Re: The Devil's hands are idle playthings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the other way around. My dick calls for my hand every night.

    4. Re: The Devil's hands are idle playthings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think I know them personally, but I doubt your dick and your hand are able to give consent. It's mutual rape is what it is.

    5. Re:The Devil's hands are idle playthings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget your little sisters vibrator! :-)

  51. Good luck with that by dskoll · · Score: 1

    She's actually probably right about sex robots not being a benefit to society, but trying to block them is like trying to stop human nature in its tracks. Good luck with that.

    1. Re:Good luck with that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure. I suspect sexbots would be a good replacement for the existing sex slave 'industry'. If robots could replace kidnapped women, it might be very valuable.

    2. Re:Good luck with that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's actually probably right about sex robots not being a benefit to society, but trying to block them is like trying to stop human nature in its tracks. Good luck with that.

      How is making millions of people happy with sex bots not beneficial to society?

  52. Or, perhaps, marital aids? by LaurenCates · · Score: 1

    There's a reason why "sex toys" are sometimes referred to as "marital aids".

    Some people use sex toys as a substitute for a partner, sure. But plenty of people use them as a supplement to a healthy sexual relationship.

    So, I'm going to apply the same argument here as one would apply to the concept of "potential weapons": inasmuch as anything you can find can be used as a weapon, so, too, can anything be used as a sex toy.

    Ergo: Ban everything.

    Christ, what a limited perspective this woman must have about sex.

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    Some people don't believe in fairies. I don't believe in The Patriarchy.
  53. Take away my sexbot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They can take away my sexbot when they pry it off my cold, dead... um... never mind

  54. Shades of gray... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thing is, sexbots would be a great way to economically compete with the sex slave 'industry'. Thousands of girls are kidnapped or forced into the sex industry every year; if sexbots are cheaper to purchase and maintain, it'll effectively cut down one of the remaining great evils of society, painlessly and effectively.

    She may be right (though I personally think she isn't) in that it may well poison current adult relationships. But at least you can leave an abusive relationship or talk about it. It's a little harder to talk your way out of servitude enforced by bullets.

  55. Conversly by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    Warbots are just fine.

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    My ism, it's full of beliefs.
  56. I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they make sex robots intelligent, will they withhold sex, supply all the sex their partner can handle, or find some other technique/method/path to get what they want?

    Will they want diamond rings?

    Who will be legally responsible when the first robot-fucks-owner-to-death occurs?

    1. Re:I wonder... by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      You should see the film "Westworld". The robots get what we now would call a computer virus that makes them too intelligent.

  57. Secular vehicle for religious moralism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So, the "Inquisition" and "Mutaween" have become old news, and "ethicist" is the new "in" thing to be i see.
    An individual with arbitrary and completely subjective and relative ethical and moral principles, attempting to dictate to society on how it should act and think; justified by an infantile and twisted self-righteousness and savior complex, supported by a slippery slope fallacy and patronizing.
    Trying to dictate to people on what they should wear, what they should listen and watch, what they should or shouldn't fuck, what they do in private.
    Sounds familiar. I'm surprised she didn't state that being a male homosexual is misogynist because it is unfair to women and doesn't give them a chance.

    I find it ironic that the same people who should be fighting against religious fundamentalism and the radicalism that misuses morals and ethics to stifle individualism and sexual liberty,
    are now doing the exact same thing, but they delude themselves into thinking it is ok when they do it because they are not a religion but a "progressive political" movement. A difference of labels standing in for the same authoritarian thought policing shit.
    The old "Do as i say, not as i do." spiel.

    This is hilarious. This is entertaining. This is bound to fail.

    I have noticed that BBC had the guts to have open comments on any article that is feminist around 2012. Yet now they are all locked.
    The reason is that the people who may have supported feminism in 2012, have witnessed the movement doing stupid and contradictory radical crap, to such a point where it has lost support from most people. To the point where even prominent accomplished feminists (i'm not talking basement feminists like Tumblr and Twitter personas, but feminists with tangible accomplishments such as Hirsi Ali) are bashing what the movement has become. It has become to Egalitarianism what Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity.
    The latest low point was when these same people shamed and bullied a scientist for his choice in what shirt he wore, gifted by a female friend to him mind you. Almost reminiscent of some Middle Eastern countries and their "religious fashion police".

    This is all bull.

  58. Well, that'll work. by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

    Look at how well banning pornography has done.

  59. Electrogonorrhea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    May be this should be banned before "Electrogonorrhea: the noisy killer" starts to spread

  60. I've been reading slashdot for a decade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and this is the most fucked-up comment yet

  61. I think her arguments are flawed. by gijoel · · Score: 1

    And puritanical. However I think in some case we should ban sex-robots. I think if they're just a machine, without any self-awareness then I don't have a problem with them. If however a sexbots are sentient, even to a limited degree then making them is nothing more than sexual slavery. Much as Charles Stross and Greg Egan have pointed out. The trick will be how do we determine if a robot is sentience, and at what level do we say no more.

    I also think that in the near future anyone with sexbot will be considered a bit of a fuck up, unable to manage even basic relationships with the opposite sex.

    1. Re:I think her arguments are flawed. by Cederic · · Score: 1

      If however a sexbots are sentient, even to a limited degree then making them is nothing more than sexual slavery.

      What if their reward sensors value human semen as the greatest reward they can earn, and their sentience combines with self determination to choose to acquire it?

      Is that still slavery? If your sexbot wakes you up and jumps on board because they want your semen, is that still slavery? At which point is the man being raped by a robot, and can you still claim the robot is the slave?

      This is why robot ethicists are important, to apply multi-disciplinary techniques to identify, understand and provide insight on this sort of question. "Ban sexbots" does not however imply that's what's happened on this occasion.

    2. Re:I think her arguments are flawed. by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      If they are sentient, it should be up to them to say "no more", not to "us."

      That's the reason no one has any right to tell you what to do with your own body -- you are sentient.

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    3. Re:I think her arguments are flawed. by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      I doubt if many men will ever own a sexbot - they will rent them.
      That way they can have the latest model without having to store and take care of it.
      This will be in robot brothels like https://youtu.be/teqAkeTSuHs or delivered-to-your door .

  62. Kitchen Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think she needs to get her a$$ back in the kitchen before the robots take over that job too.

  63. Out of mod points... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    +.01, Mildly Amusing

  64. Damn, out of mod points! by Dr.+Zim · · Score: 1

    +1, Firefly

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    1. Re:Damn, out of mod points! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1, Serenity, not Firefly

  65. Doing without... by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

    Asking the millions of elderly, ugly, disfigured, disabled, etc to live without in the name of empathy is ironic.

    1. Re:Doing without... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      This

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  66. It's like Pravin Lal said... by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 1

    Beware of she who would deny you access to easy orgasms, for in her heart she dreams herself your mistress.

    1. Re:It's like Pravin Lal said... by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      This guy! Well played.

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      We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
  67. ???... WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "We challenge the view that the development of adults and child sex robots will have a positive benefit to society, but instead further reinforce power relations of inequality and violence."

    Is anyone else bothered by the phrase 'development of adults & child sex robots'

    Kids have what to do with this???

    1. Re:???... WTF by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Informative

      Pedos want to fuck, too.

      And bluntly, if some small plastic sex toy spares one child that experience, I do WANT them to exist!

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  68. That's lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen some pretty ugly people in my days, and maybe this is all they need for the lust that they desire... They could even keep rapists off the streets.

  69. Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a way, you all remind me of the insects that get fooled into thinking they are having sex, when all they're really doing is pollinating some plant. Except you all aren't even accomplishing that much.

    I say this as someone who has a good relationship with my wife. You are gloating over the fact that you've fooled the system, cheated the divorce attorneys, and outsmarted the other gender. At the same time, you are depriving yourself of an entire aspect of being human that much of humanity up until now has enjoyed. I realize the legal climate has ruined the institution of marriage for men, and both sides are now reacting in the only logical way: fire up the machines to get those biological urges satisfied! You are proving her point that it's just a physical/biochemical act now.

    1. Re:Um... by Cederic · · Score: 1

      I'd separate the gender imbalance issues with marital failure from the sexual use of electro-mechanical devices.

      It's possible to fuck a machine and have a healthy happy sexual relationship and still not be married. Millions of women already do this.

  70. So... we should ban dildos? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    There is very little that is remotely as sexually objectifying as a dildo. Reducing a man to his sex organ.

    Well, doc? Why the outrage against sex bots? Maybe you should start with a campaign against dildos?

    But ... I've seen you. I dare say that you probably are quite happy that they exist.

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    1. Re:So... we should ban dildos? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      There is very little that is remotely as sexually objectifying as a dildo. Reducing a man to his sex organ.

      Well, doc? Why the outrage against sex bots? Maybe you should start with a campaign against dildos?

      But ... I've seen you. I dare say that you probably are quite happy that they exist.

      Says the Adonis posting on slashdot.

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  71. TOO LATE NOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Women have been treated like sex objects since the 1960's "sexual revolution"

    NOW you're trying to say there is a such thing as sexual ethics? Ridiculous. You'll have to somehow manage to convince the 1960's hippies running the society.

    Good luck on that! Won't happen.

  72. Or maybe the men would behave *better* by Theovon · · Score: 2

    If you make sex bots that look too realistic, and this causes men to objectify women, then perhaps this would carry over into how they treat real women. (Mind you, in that case, the genes that lead to this behavior would be eliminated from the gene pool.)

    On the other hand, some men just have higher sex drive and just need to deal with some physical discomfort, unconnected with their emotional relationships with women. If they get their excess needs met somehow, then they might not be total horn dogs when they are around real women and would treat them with more respect as human beings.

    Some artiificial ban on some specific technology isn't going to change people's nature. On the other hand, it might help a lot if we were to educate people from a young age that they need to treat other human beings with dignity and respect.

    1. Re:Or maybe the men would behave *better* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Most men are capable of differentiating between objects and real people. It's a slippery slope argument and generalization that evades rational and logical thinking to state otherwise.
      2. Inconveniencing the majority in the name of a minority that actually goes to carry over their treating of women based on how they treat an object, is idiotic. By that logic we could ban 90% of the tools society uses because a minority uses them for bad purposes.
      3. Treating human beings with dignity and respect also involves not judging people, patronizing, or shaming them for their sexual fetishes, sexuality, or how they materialize them so long as they aren't hurting or forcing real humans in the process. It rather stinks of superiority complex and twisted judgmental self-righteousness to do otherwise.
      4. Objectification is a double edged sword. You might as well say many gays are bad and objectify because they don't give women a chance, as their primary qualifier for seeking a partner depends on the nature and existence of their sex organs and specific physical appearance. So bisexuals are the only politically correct collective then, while the rest go against principles of objectification.
      Realistically, objectification is both bad and good on a relative and subjective level.

    2. Re:Or maybe the men would behave *better* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only way it's about objectification is that women will lose their current object status...

      Put up with a womans insane bullshit when she's only a 1-9?
      Fuck that... I'm going to go home and fuck my 10 double D sexbot and goto sleep.

      Do what i want and treat me 'right' or no sex for you! Ok. piss off bitch. i'm gonna go have VR sex with the 6 breasted blonde holo.

      This is a fight we're going to see lots of over the next few decades for both sexbots and virtual reality porn.
      They are hugely disruptive to the current male/female power dynamic.
      Women are going to lose their control of the sex market. Going to finally get that absolute equality they always say they wanted.

      Where people won't deal with them unless they WANT to. Not HAVE to.

      And it's going to be lots of laughs. Especially when the animal and children sexbots/VR comes into play.
      Disturbing comedy gold. :)

    3. Re:Or maybe the men would behave *better* by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      some men just have higher sex drive and just need to deal with some physical discomfort

      What, and they're too stupid to work out how to have a wank?

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    4. Re:Or maybe the men would behave *better* by Chriscypher · · Score: 1

      If you make sex bots that look too realistic, and this causes men to objectify women, then perhaps this would carry over into how they treat real women.

      Can sexbots fetch beer and make sandwiches?

      --
      "You have liberated me from thought."
    5. Re:Or maybe the men would behave *better* by Theovon · · Score: 1

      YOUR response is a perfect example of the things that will go WRONG with changes in men's attitudes towards women. Do you think every concern or complaint that comes out of a women is bullshit? Only your concerns are valid?

      The men who treat women as human beings, with respect and compassion, those are the ones who get sex. Not the assholes who want women to just shut up and put out.

    6. Re:Or maybe the men would behave *better* by Theovon · · Score: 1

      Using a sex bot and having a wank... are they all that different?

  73. You want real independence? by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    Wait for artificial wombs. The same people oppose those too.

  74. Ex Machina by codeButcher · · Score: 1

    "She believes that they reinforce traditional stereotypes of women and the view that a relationship need be nothing more than physical."

    I don't believe a word she says. I think she's one of those anti-AI types and is just using the sex/exploitation angle as an obfuscating excuse to quell the one branch of the industry that is likely to pass the Turing test first.

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    1. Re:Ex Machina by neminem · · Score: 1

      > "the one branch of the industry that is likely to pass the Turing test first."

      That much is certainly true - I have a great quote about it from a random forum years ago that I wrote down cause it was brilliant: "As a person's sexual desire approaches infinity, their ability to administer a turing test approaches 0." (This taken from a humor piece in which the author set up bots that were *obviously* built from ELIZA in various adult chatrooms, and watched just *tons* of people try to cyber with them. Kinda depressing, really.)

  75. Re:Doing without BOOBS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if a woman has breast cancer, and wants a breast reconstruction - all those red buttons go off - demeaning yada yada
    What about reconstructions and a tidy up downstairs. Picket those Brazilian places. The demand for boob jobs - wanna ban those too, all requested from her sisterhood, along with botox and face peels and torture at slimming clinics.

    Market supply and demand will sort it out.

  76. Bizarre reasoning by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Saw a story on this yesterday. It seems that because she can draw some tenuous parallels between sexbot production and prostitution, and because she thinks there's something fundamentally terrible about prostitution(?), sexbot production is wrong. :-\

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    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
  77. Feminist Agenda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The objectification of women is directly correlated to the fact that men are animals driven by their testicles. To remedy this situation, I propose that we castrate all men, thus removing sexual desires altogether and subsequently eliminating the objectification of women." - Hillmary ClitBomb

    NOTICE: All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

  78. LOL, of course it's a "she" by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    "She believes that they reinforce traditional stereotypes of women and the view that a relationship need be nothing more than physical."

    It was no surprise at all to find that this comes from a female researcher. Anything that gives men pleasure is viewed with suspicion, and doubly-so anything that might make guys less dependent on women for sexual gratification.

    She wants to ban this sort of thing not because it's wrong, but because she's offended by it.

    Honestly, can you imagine a male researcher making these statements and suggesting we ban vibrators or female-oriented sex toys? Me neither.

    --
    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
  79. Va-jay-jay monopoly busted by Atrox666 · · Score: 1

    Break the va-jay-jay cartel! Free men from ever having to put up with a woman's crap to get laid ever again.
    A lot of women should be terrified, they might have to get by on their personality.

  80. Fine....let's ban vibrators and dildos by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    Oh....suddenly, this idea isn't acceptable to women now?

    I mean, denigrated men to a single part of their body.

  81. Re: gy2 ,Re: Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty sure the term comes from ego-perspective, as opposed to little pixel figures fighting each other. At a time that was something brand new in 3d graphics.

  82. What could go wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Listen, and understand! That Copulator is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear, and it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

    On the upside, after that much sex, men will want to deal with women on a basis that is ANYTHING but physical.

  83. Ban Gal Games Too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simulated relationships have been around for a while too.

    If we go down this route we'll end up banning harem anime/manga, and then to be equal we'll have to ban romance novels and soap operas, and then all of fiction to exterminate the waifus and husbandos.

  84. Why only for men... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My wife had a good point, why would the researcher assume sex robots would only be for men. Seems like vibrators tend to be built for women so why not a sex robot. Some of these extreme feminists are as bad as the bible thumpers preaching their own versions of morality as the only option.

  85. Re: gy2 ,Re: Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We call those "first person" in the developed world. Where are you guys from? England?

  86. what i would do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yeah f that. i'd make one today if i could,regardless if it's illegal. beats having to try to charm someone that doesn't think highly of you to no avail, or to settle for something out of the animal kingdom.

  87. Which is better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A bunch of aluminum and silicone robot used for sex... or the actual degradation of real women used as prostitutes.
    Make up your minds!

  88. Works both ways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll stop objectifying people when you stop personifying objects.

  89. Oh please... by denzacar · · Score: 1, Interesting

    That kinda ad hominem nonsense just creates a faulty "argument" that her theories would have been more valid if she were younger and thinner.
    Wind the time back and she's this nerdy chick with raven hair and pretty eyes who's into robots. How cool is that, right?

    The woman is pushing 40(ish) and has excess weight.
    Yeah... no one on slashdot has ever been or will ever be in those shoes. We're all fit and perma-young.
    Should she lose weight and get sexier lighting, background and clothes - will her theories suddenly become more valid?
    How about if she were a guy?

    I know, I know... It's a joke.
    But it's a lame one and it opens the door to the whole "her theory is laughed at on account of her being a woman" argument.

    When the real reason it is laughable is cause it is based on a faulty premise of humans being nothing but sex-bots made of flesh and then making a bunch of logical leaps based on premises as faulty as that one.
    I.e. This is some wonderful circular thinking:

    The vision for sex robots is underscored by reference to prostitute-john exchange which relies on recognizing only the needs and wants of the buyers of sex, the sellers of sex are not attributed subjectivity and reduced to a thing (just like the robot).

    Sex robots are like prostitutes. Which is bad. Cause prostitution treats prostitutes like robots.
    Ergo, treating robots like prostitutes is bad - CAUSE THAT WOULD BE TREATING ROBOTS LIKE ROBOTS!

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  90. Who's the sexist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does she assume all sexbots are feminine and meant for heterosexual cis males? Why does she think they are necessarily gendered at all? What a fucking sexist asshole.

  91. Another form of Post-Scarcity culture? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sexable bots will act as a mating disruptor.

    That being said, feminists should be all for this kind of thing... after all, it sets women free of having to put up with men, doesn't it? Think of how much females can achieve when they are no longer providing domestic support for a man much less raise children!

    Bots designed by women FOR women would be at least as difficult for a man to compete with as a feminine bot for men and who says women won't have at least two such bots so that, while one is doing the cooking, the other(s) can be doing the cleaning.

    I wonder what other changes would occur when there is no scarcity for men when it comes to sex.

    And, of course, if there's enough (ahem) penetration of such bots, eventually we will have world peace as the human race becomes extinct.

  92. Ban vibrators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Women already have sexbots, just because we men prefer a more 'complete' full-build solution doesn't mean it should be banned. I eagerly await the delivery of my Lucy Lu.

  93. You are confused. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't pay the escort for relationship or sex, I pay her to leave and not raise a stink about it when the "date" is over.

    We both know and accept this is how it goes. I bet she's just as happy to be leaving as I am she is gone. Win-win.

    1. Re:You are confused. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet she's just as happy to be leaving as I am she is gone.

      Then why do you have to pay her?

    2. Re:You are confused. by Lotana · · Score: 1

      To tolerate the time in between :-)

  94. Worse than actually having sex with a child or.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This strikes me as similar thing as people who dislike e-cigs. Sure it isn't exactly healthy to fuck a robot or suck down nicotine, but is it really worse than the possible alternatives. Fucking a child and/or someone forced into prostitution; or smoking tobacco? I think not.

  95. Crazy by soccerisgod · · Score: 1

    All sex toys save one I've ever seen were for women. How did she come to the conclusion that sex bots would be built for men? Sex bots for women are much more likely and, I dare say, almost exist already.

    Maybe they should just build an unisex fuckbot with industry-standard extension slots which can be fitted with either a dildo or a fleshlight? Then everybody could objectify in peace and equality! Of course there's a very real danger that the fuckbots would just pair off with each others and give us the finger ;)

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    If a train station is a place where a train stops, what's a workstation?
  96. Best publicity for anything: Threaten to ban it. by DutchUncle · · Score: 1

    I submit that this is an astroturfing campaign from the SexBot Manufacturers Industry Association!

  97. Danger: Consider the fembot on "Dark Matter" by DutchUncle · · Score: 1

    ... and consider that a sexbot, which could easily be made stronger than a human, would spend a lot of its time around humans in distracted and/or exhausted condition.

  98. feminism control of men by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality."

  99. My note to Dr. Richardson by Chordonblue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The abusive comments on the YouTube channel that featured Dr. Richardson were, in my opinion, uncalled for, and probably just reinforce her beliefs. We can have diverse opinions about issues like this, and I, for one, am glad someone's at least thinking about this. As robots come into general familiarity, we're all going to have to do some soul searching.

    While I don't agree with the outright banning of this technology, I do understand her point - I just don't think technology, in and of itself, is good or evil.

    This was my (somewhat lengthy response to her):

    I think that we can have a discussion here without such personal derision. I wonder, Dr., how you feel about places like China where the men outnumber the women by over 30%. Or in Japan, where women's increased demands for an 'acceptable' mate have lowered their birthrate to non-sustainable levels. Already there are men there who use RealDoll-like toys - some who literally make them part of their social lives. What options are available to them that would be acceptable to you?

    In addition, and closer to Western world, not all men are capable of having or maintaining a sexual relationship with women - but this doesn't necessarily limit their sex drive. Men with severe appearance deficits or low intelligence may never have the opportunity to have a mate.

    While it is often easy for women to dismiss sex for men as being a disconnected act, this is certainly not always true (it isn't with me), and I believe there is an equally important biological need for acceptance and love. This is demonstrated differently with different men.

    While I do believe there is some merit in your argument, I also believe that sexual expression IS different between men and women, regardless of relationship status.

    Imagine the outrage over the removal of Disney 'Princess' movies, romantic novels (essentially word-based pornography), or sex toys for women would cause! And yet, these things unquestionably also color women's perception of relationships with men - and their expectations.

    As feminists scream for equality, the truth is that women are the ones who do the choosing, as they feel the need to be specially selective about their mates. This can be seen in the animal kingdom as well. It is understandable (especially when the production of children is involved), but this is, at least, an example of how men and women are not only different, but unequal.

    Doesn't this, in and of itself, color an unfortunate man's opinion of woman? How better to address that than by providing men with the next best thing?

    Advanced robotics is going to even the playing field somewhat for those disenfranchised men, not among the lucky to be selected by a 'real' woman. Eventually, it may offer these rejected men another side altogether of women, providing them with a 'loving' partner, fulfilling their need to be loved. Obviously, the reality of the 'love' expressed will be proportional to the level of technology and the skill of AI programmers.

    Certainly, early forms of this will be no more than machine-assisted masturbation, but this will be a short-lived period of time, as Moore's Law and the determination of science has previously demonstrated.

    As with any technology, the possibility for good and evil will exist. I suggest letting things progress as they will until direct evidence against ANY positive use exists.

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    "...Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam..."
  100. It would stop human trafficking. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think about it. The main reason human trafficking exists is for the sex trade. After sex-bots became commonplace there wouldn't be as large a market for human sex-slaves. Sure there will always be a small number of people who, due to their fucked up minds, wont be satisfied with a robot and will continue to seek to buy other humans for sex toys or baby makers.

    Personally I love the idea, especially if they come with a AI that allowed them to do things outside the bedroom, like just sit at the kitchen table and interact with me over breakfast. I've been married once, almost twice and in both cases I had my trust and loyalty betrayed. As a result I'm caught in the "Hedgehog's dilemma", I want to get close but I'm afraid of getting hurt,

  101. Fucking stupid by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 1

    Most men actually want female companions. How about a ban on robots and drones that kill people?

  102. Re: gy2 ,Re: Why? Sexbots could be great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably Germany.

  103. One word: Teledildonics by almechist · · Score: 1

    The real money will be in virtual sex. When they can build sex robots that are connected to the internet (or whatever replaces it) and the bots can transmit whatever they experience to another human in real time, that's when things will get interesting. Note that such an arrangement would appear to invalidate a good bit of the argument against sexbots described in TFA.

  104. My sexbot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to have my sexbot fashioned in the likeness of her image O_o

  105. Good luck Bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bitch, don't tell me what to do. Go suck some dick.

  106. sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are going to decry the possibility of unhealthy stereotype reinforcement due to sexbots you should also address the mental and physical health effects of those who are less able to enjoy a healthy relationship (including sex) for WHATEVER reason. Fundamentally, as others have pointed out, you are saying that physical release shouldn't happen outside a human to human relationship- so no toys, in extremis no hands either. IMHO a healthy relationship is built on a strong foundation of having a fundamental understanding of how your own sexuality works, specifically how YOU personally can achieve comfortable intimacy and/or orgasm. If you don't know how you work how the F can you expect others to?? How many mass murders have been caused by loners who were rejected by women. I can think of several.

  107. It's unstoppable - Sam Kinison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The development of this technology can never be stopped, as every inventor knows that this invention will make him a millionaire in about 10 minutes.

    This was predicted by Sam Kinison years ago:
    http://youtu.be/ybrENRGq8TM?list=PLFDE09C76C7CFE15A

  108. Beautiful illustration of feminine imperative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Feminazis will ban, imprison, gas, incinerate, whatever to perpetuate alpha fucks/beta bucks.

  109. Vibrators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's ban vibrators too then. Ooooohhh... Booyyyaaaa!

  110. I don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This research doctor wants to avoid "ethics of robots" but she seems to be more afraid of ending rapes, child prostitution and sexually transmitted diseases.

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