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Alabama Man Sold a Priceless Apollo-Era Lunar Rover Protoype For Scrap Metal (vice.com)

Jason Koebler writes: An Alabama man allowed an Apollo-era lunar rover prototype to rot in his backyard before ultimately selling it to a junkyard for scrap metal last year, according to documents acquired from NASA as part of a Freedom of Information Act request. NASA spent much of 2014 attempting to acquire the priceless artifact for display in a museum, but it was ultimately destroyed before the agency could recover it.

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  1. I'll bite by kencurry · · Score: 3, Funny

    What the heck was he doing with a lunar rover prototype in Alabama?

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    1. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe something to do with Marshall Space Flight Center? It's in Alabama.

    2. Re:I'll bite by mitgib · · Score: 2
      Alabama is the home on the Marshall Space Flight Center

      In 1961, when President John F. Kennedy envisioned an American on the moon by the end of the decade, NASA turned to Marshall Space Flight Center to create the incredibly powerful rocket needed to turn this presidential vision into reality. Since its beginning in 1960, Marshall has provided the agency with mission-critical design, development and integration of the launch and space systems required for space operations, exploration, and scientific missions. http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ma...

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    3. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      looking for intelligent life - apart from the 6 finger inbred retards that live there,

    4. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, Huntsville?

    5. Re:I'll bite by Solandri · · Score: 2
      From TFA:

      How did this person end up with the rover in the first place? It's unclear. NASA did not respond to a Motherboard request for more specifics, but an attorney quoted in the report noted that early Apollo prototypes were rarely tagged and often went missing.

      Also, the person who sold it for scrap inherited it when the "owner" (who presumably acquired it from NASA and knew its value) passed away. NASA dragged its feet contacting the new owner, who apparently didn't know its value.

    6. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the heck was he doing with a lunar rover prototype in Alabama?

      It was abandoned there by Lisa Nowak as she drove to Florida.

    7. Re:I'll bite by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      The response is a nice copy and paste from the article but does not answer the question how the guy in Alabama ended up with the unit. That's more than a pencil or slide rule going missing, that's an 8 TON VEHICLE!

    8. Re:I'll bite by cdrudge · · Score: 4, Insightful

      NASA dragged its feet contacting the new owner, who apparently didn't know its value.

      Sure NASA dragged it's feet. But I wonder if the historian walked over to the neighbor's house, knocked on the door, and mentioned that he though the guy had a piece of priceless artifact from NASA's history just sitting there. Even if the guy wasn't interested in contacting NASA right then, at least he would have known before he just scrapped it.

    9. Re:I'll bite by Woldscum · · Score: 1

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Redstone/Huntsville was the Army missile development site for the German rocket scientists that were brought to the US as part of Operation Paperclip. Until Air Force took over missile development.

    10. Re:I'll bite by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2

      Obligatory xkcd comic.

      I love telling people we have the Nazis to thank for our space program.

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    11. Re:I'll bite by rickb928 · · Score: 0

      *whoosh*

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    12. Re:I'll bite by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      The response is a nice copy and paste from the article but does not answer the question how the guy in Alabama ended up with the unit. That's more than a pencil or slide rule going missing, that's an 8 TON VEHICLE!

      He was using it as a meth lab.

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    13. Re:I'll bite by lbmouse · · Score: 2

      "That's my Dad's shooting car. Just three more payments and it's ours."

    14. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You forgot the rednecks. We have the Nazis and rednecks to thank for our space program.

    15. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I was to guess it was probably originally sold by NASA as scrap. From there it was likely bought by the man who had it until his death at which point his family sold it somewhat ironically for scrap.

    16. Re: I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Redstone Arsenal is an Army installation and has never been a USAF facility. It is currently the home to the Aviation and Missile Command. The grounds are shared with the NASA Marshall Center.

    17. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're doing it wrong

    18. Re:I'll bite by wassomeyob · · Score: 1

      *whoosh*

      Double-whoosh

    19. Re:I'll bite by Kichigai+Mentat · · Score: 4, Funny

      He built it one piece at a time, and it didn't cost him a dime!

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    20. Re: I'll bite by jawtheshark · · Score: 0

      Why doesn't this have modpoints? I tip my hat to you, sir!

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    21. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is from the article -
      The historian "stated he was visiting his mother when he noticed the rover in the backyard of a neighbor across the street."

      He couldn't just walk across the damn street and tell the guy? But hey, it's easier for slashtards to mock the locals since it's the South.

    22. Re:I'll bite by TigerTime · · Score: 2

      Huntsville has a TON of NASA engineers and supporting cast. Auburn University has sent more astronauts to space than nearly any other university.

      Just because it's "Alabama" doesn't mean it's redneck. That's stereotyping at it's finest.

      The guy who died likely worked at NASA in the lunar program and possibly even designing the rovers. ...Frankly, it could have been this guy's: http://www.oanow.com/news/aubu...

    23. Re:I'll bite by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 2

      Obligatory xkcd comic.

      I love telling people we have the Nazis to thank for our space program.

      And international criminal investigations/law enforcement. Interpol was run by SS generals for some years, including the likes of Reinhard Heydrich, the Butcher of Prague.

    24. Re: I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Why, in this age of political correctness and sensitivity, does nobody bat an eye at hate speech about people in the south?

    25. Re:I'll bite by taiwanjohn · · Score: 1

      What about the scrap yard workers? You'd think that somebody along the line would recognize such an icon of American history, and get the idea that it might be worth more than scrap. It just boggles the mind.

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    26. Re:I'll bite by Bromrrrrr · · Score: 2

      including the likes of Reinhard Heydrich, the Butcher of Prague.

      Quit a feat, as he died in 1942

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    27. Re:I'll bite by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      And how does that prevent him from having been the head of Interpol?

    28. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the scrap yard workers? You'd think that somebody along the line would recognize such an icon of American history, and get the idea that it might be worth more than scrap. It just boggles the mind.

      The photo of the prototype in the article looks almost nothing like the actual lunar rover.

    29. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then he hoots and he hollers, and waves all his dollars.

    30. Re:I'll bite by Bromrrrrr · · Score: 2

      From wikipedia:

      "Following Anschluss in 1938, the organization fell under the control of Nazi Germany, and the Commission's headquarters were eventually moved to Berlin in 1942.[10] From 1938 to 1945, the presidents of Interpol included Otto Steinhäusl, Reinhard Heydrich........

      Who'd have thunk it......thanks...I thought you had him confused with Reinhard Gehlen or something....my bad

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    31. Re:I'll bite by dave420 · · Score: 1

      It was taken over by the Nazis, so that's to be expected. Now, if after the war Interpol had Nazi leadership, you'd have a point.

    32. Re:I'll bite by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Even with it under Nazi control, you'd expect it to have been run by Kripo (police) exclusively. Two of the Nazi-era leaders were (as well as being SS), but the other two were purely SS.

    33. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not the one that was scrapped. The scrapped one was a six-wheeler. NASA has provided no photos, so we don't actually know what it looked like.

    34. Re:I'll bite by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      *whoosh*

      No, I think the fucking smiley face shows he was joking.

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    35. Re: I'll bite by Coren22 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just look at the treatment to Lee's battle flag recently, that is pure racism against the people who fought for state's rights. (hint, the average southerner had nothing to do with slavery, the slave owners were too wealthy to fight in the war).

      Racism is ok (to the Democrats) when it is white people that are the butt of the joke, they also don't like Asians for some reason, so making fun of natives of India, and China, is perfectly acceptable, but talk about how 90% of gang violence is black people, or that there are crimes being committed against the Hispanics crossing the border (as Trump did), and suddenly you are a terrible racist.

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    36. Re:I'll bite by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      According to this site:

      http://www.astronautix.com/cra...

      It weighs 450 kg, a little less than half a ton. Maybe he disassembled it and shipped it home one piece at a time?

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    37. Re: I'll bite by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Which joke? All of them?

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    38. Re:I'll bite by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Even with it under Nazi control, you'd expect it to have been run by Kripo (police) exclusively. Two of the Nazi-era leaders were (as well as being SS), but the other two were purely SS.

      In Nazi Germany, everything was under Nazi control. The idea that organisations like the army, police or Universities were somehow free from Nazi influence is something that people in the army, police or Universities tried to push after WW2 ended, for obvious reasons like not wanting to be hanged for war crimes..

      Apparently, it turns out there were almost no Nazis in Germany at all.

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    39. Re:I'll bite by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Just because it's "Alabama" doesn't mean it's redneck. That's stereotyping at it's finest.

      This should teach a useful lesson in tolerance to the citizens of that State.

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    40. Re:I'll bite by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      Depending on it's condition, it might have just looked like a backyard project or a "dune buggy" type vehicle. Based on the picture in the Motherboard link, I wouldn't have guessed it was a lunar rover prototype. Now maybe if it had NASA painted in giant letters across it...

    41. Re: I'll bite by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      The secessions before the Civil War were because those states were afraid Lincoln would be able to restrict or abolish slavery. Secession was more or less popular depending heavily on whether there were more or fewer slave owners in the area. States' rights had very little to do with secession.

      The Civil War was not itself about slavery, although it was certainly a factor. The claim that the war was about slavery was very useful, in that most of the other countries that might intervene could not realistically fight for slavery. Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was great diplomacy.

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    42. Re:I'll bite by SKYNYRDFAN52 · · Score: 1

      WHAT A MORON . . What's this tool's name? Junior Samples Junior ?... . This borders on Criminal negligence And what about the DINGWA That Took it in for Scap? What was he thinking? He is just as guilty as the guy that sold it (.. Harry Jettison Lives ) and he didn't even have to go to the moon to get it for scrap metal Ha Ha.. But seriously folks NUFF SAID

    43. Re: I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. You found a war in history not funded by rich people?

      I'm right wing and even I think you're retarded.

    44. Re: I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that certainly stopped Britain from selling supplies to the South at inflated prices. Oh, wait...

      I guess it's true what they say. There are two types of Americans: Confederate apologists who know fuck-all about their own history, and Union apologists who know fuck-all about their own history.

      And my confirmation word: "dustbin." Where all of you learned your history.

    45. Re:I'll bite by KingMotley · · Score: 1

      It was looking for signs of intelligent life.

    46. Re:I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are assuming that a derp that works at a scrapyard in Alabama gives two shits what he's looking at.

    47. Re:I'll bite by kmoser · · Score: 1

      Quit a feat, as he died in 1942

      ...or did he...?

    48. Re: I'll bite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The civil war was pushed by the Yankie industrialists, who saw the South indusrializing and soon to be a competitor to the North.

      Industry was the way to change Slavery, jobs in factories and machines on farms would allow a peaceful transition. The big worry was not to have a "bloodbath", as had happened other places. The Slaves knew this, too, and negotiations were ongoing.

      The Northern industrialists saw this and panicked. Tne result was the civil war. And they succeded, no industry in the South for a hundred years! 8-{

      But it didn't help the slaves, they were worse off afterward...

    49. Re:I'll bite by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      Assuming any of them - knew anything about US history - or perhaps were from the US - if a live person actually saw much - if he or she could speak English I think you're expecting too much.

  2. Leave it to idiots.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to be idiots

    1. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by halivar · · Score: 2

      Who, the junkyard guy that considers the stuff in his junkyard to be... you know... junk? Or the NASA administrator that considered a historic relic under his care to be junk?

    2. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering 30% of Americans will still vote for 'Liary Clinton, despite the decades of failure, gate-after-gate and more flip-flops that a Florida Beach... You need no further proof that you can't fix stupid, and it isn't limited to Alabama.

    3. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Considering the percentage of people who still voted for Bush after he ignored six months of daily warnings of an impending attack and allowed the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history to take place, then compounded his incompetence by letting Bin Laden because he refused every request by troops on the ground for more troops to block Bin Laden's escape at Tora Bora, or the fact he then set out on an unprecedented lying campaign to justify invading and occupying Iraq which had nothing to do with the attacks, I will agree with you... You need no further proof that you can't fix stupid, and it isn't limited to Alabama.

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    4. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      GORTON: Now, since my yellow light is on, at this point my final question will be this: Assuming that the recommendations that you made on January 25th of 2001, based on Delenda, based on Blue Sky, including aid to the Northern Alliance, which had been an agenda item at this point for two and a half years without any action, assuming that there had been more Predator reconnaissance missions, assuming that that had all been adopted say on January 26th, year 2001, is there the remotest chance that it would have prevented 9/11?

      CLARKE: No.

      Richard Clarke's sworn testimony to the 9/11 commission. Clarke was President Clinton's terror czar. Too late by the time the Bush Administration took over. Per President Clinton's own terror czar. I know, facts and sworn testimony are always an issue when you have a political axe to grind...

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    5. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Informative

      What axe? I'm stating a fact. Bush had six months of daily warnings of an impending attack, INCLUDING Clarke's own statement a few days after Bush was sworn into office, and a briefing statement titled, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the United States".

      Further, contrary to the lies of those in the Bush administration, the outgoing Clinton administration did leave them a comprehensive plan. We know this because it's been declassified.

      If you like, I can keep going with the facts which show a) Bush had been warned, many times, prior to the 9/11 attacks, both from the outgoing Clinton administration, Richard Clarke who spanned both administrations and daily briefings, b) Bush was warned one month before the attacks that Al Qaeda was planning to hijack planes to attack the U.S. and c) Bush ignored everything until the last second when, on 9/4, he finally had a meeting to discuss what Clarke and others had talked about months prior.

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    6. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention felonies even though it seems the government doesn't feel like prosecuting. Cos if you're a Clinton you get a pass.

    7. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Per Clarke - it was already too late to stop it. Nothing that could have been done based upon information available and recommendations/intelligence from the Clinton Administration. It's what Clarke stated in sworn testimony to Senator Gorton - copied above.

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    8. Re: Leave it to idiots.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent down. Opinions have no place on SlashDot. IMHO.

    9. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      to be idiots

      "Priceless" in reality often equates to "worthless". How do you get any money from something like that? Well, you can try to auction it off or make a private sale to a collector, if you can find anybody who wants to pay for it. Or you can sell it off for scrap.
      Museums don't buy stuff. The best you can hope for is to get a tax writeoff as a 'charitable donation'.

      So there's a pretty good chance that the guy who sold it for scrap got exactly what it was really 'worth'.

    10. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by labnet · · Score: 0

      Yes; but that is because Bush wanted the attacks to happen; because they needed to continue the program of middle east destabilization, feeding the Military Industrial Complex, and prevent collapse of the petro dollar (After all Saddam was an ex CIA operative, bought and paid for; how dare he start selling oil in anything other than USD) Bush says he believes in God, well I certainly God holds him and his cohorts accountable.

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    11. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One thing could have easily stopped it - baggage and passenger screeners doing their fucking jobs.

    12. Re: Leave it to idiots.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doors on planes. But the airlines didn't want to pay the cost of retrofits.

    13. Re: Leave it to idiots.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really CAN'T fix stupid. Who knew?

    14. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      What is your sort doing in this discussion? You doubtless also believe that there was never a Moon Landing, so this 'lander' was just a prototype of a movie studio prop and not historic. The whole Federal Government is a conspiracy to steal your dollars.

      Perhaps find another place to peddle your idiotic conspiracy theories.

    15. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      How so? Nothing came through the baggage and the planes were hijacked with box cutters, which were an allowed carry-on. I used to travel with the pocket knife that lived in my pocket - I think the blade limit was something like 3 inches.

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    16. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by labnet · · Score: 1

      So Bing,
      Which part of my narrative do you disagree with?
      Yes the moon landings were real.

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    17. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Per Clarke - it was already too late to stop it.

      More like per your slight-of-hand. Or didn't you think anyone would notice that you're using a quote about bombing Afghanistan when the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia to suggest that 911 couldn't have been stopped by the FBI?

    18. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by tsotha · · Score: 2

      So what? The government gets those kinds of warnings all the time. The president should not be trying to micromanage that kind of stuff.

    19. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All this comment is out of scope fore the issue being discussed....get back on track!

    20. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Have you heard of lying to save face? You don't learn this in political school, it's just part of the basic entrance examination before you can even attend.

      Or do you think they would stand up and take responsibility? If so I have one thing to say "aaaaahahahahahahahahahahhaahha"

      Now show me evidence of the first conversation being "we're going to have an attack in 6 months but there's nothing we can do about it", because I've seen nothing of the sort.

    21. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure 40-50 percent of the idiots out there would vote for Trump as well.

    22. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by Coren22 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The invasion of Iraq was not about oil, that is a conspiracy theory, and is frankly so asinine as to be on the same level as the moon hoaxes. Saddam would have loved to sell the US oil, we were refusing to buy his oil, so he had to find other buyers. Before the attack on Iraq, Saddam was acting like he was building a nuclear weapon, and was refusing access to the nuclear inspectors to the sites that were suspected of being bomb making sites. It was a widely held belief by many in government that he really did have WMD, not just some rumor that originated with one person.

      http://politics.slashdot.org/c...

      This guy goes through and cites tons of quotes of people talking about the WMD including Clinton. Are you calling Clinton a liar?

      Saddam also had already previously shown that he was more than willing to use WMD of a different type when he gassed the Kurds, an ethnic group in the area that has been routinely put down by most countries in the area, including Turkey who is currently letting ISIS kill them due to their hatred of them.

      Stop acting like your total lack of knowledge about world affairs gives you the right to try and call Bush a liar. Learn history, look at the events surrounding the invasion of Iraq. But then again, you were probably a child when the invasion happened.

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    23. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by Lakitu · · Score: 1

      Per Clarke - it was already too late to stop it. Nothing that could have been done based upon information available and recommendations/intelligence from the Clinton Administration.

      You're completely misreading this testimony. It's not a question about if anything could have been done to prevent 9/11, it's a question of whether killing or capturing bin Laden would have prevented 9/11. Why would a hypothetical drone strike on OBL in July of 2001 have stopped 9/11 if the plan was already in progress and the hijackers were already in the US? What does that have to do with anything?

      It was only "too late" to prevent it in January 2001 if you think killing Osama bin Laden is the only possible thing that could have been done to stop the hijackings, unlike, say, arresting or killing the hijackers themselves, which would have assuredly stopped them from hijacking airplanes.

    24. Re:Leave it to idiots.. by v1 · · Score: 1

      "they offered me everything but money"... "so I still have it".

      Owell. Wonder what his price is? If NASA doesn't want to cash him, maybe someone else will. If anything, barter for some of those "perks". $1000 for free lifetime tickets to usually off-limits NASA facilities would be a killer deal.

      or eBay it...

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  3. one joke, one explaination by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. up on blocks.
    2. Huntsville.

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    1. Re:one joke, one explaination by Thud457 · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:one joke, one explaination by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      What the heck was he doing with a lunar rover prototype in Alabama?

      1. up on blocks.
      2. Huntsville.

      Obligatory: "You might be a space redneck if ..."

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    3. Re:one joke, one explaination by Phase+Shifter · · Score: 1

      True story:
      When I lived in Huntsville I was once stuck in traffic behind an old pickup truck with two bumper stickers. One was for a local country music station, but the second one read "My other vehicle is unmanned."

  4. Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess it wasn't priceless then.

    1. Re:Well by tomhath · · Score: 1

      According to TFA is was worth "maybe $15,000 to $25,000,"

    2. Re: Well by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      It's illegal to sell some things like this (moon rocks, etc.). That either creates free (aka "black") market pressures, or for the fully law-abiding, incentives to dispose.

      It's like kidneys - there's both a massive abundance and a massive shortage because the price mechanism is made illegal in the market. As usual, people suffer and die when the politicians get involved.

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    3. Re: Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good old Bill showing his stupid for everyone to marvel at. His low-sugar diet sure did nothing for what's left of that useless lump on top of his brain stem.

    4. Re: Well by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Well, moon rocks are illegal to sell. Scrap metal from NASA prototyping uses? We'd be buried in it if scrappers weren't allowed to sell it to China. That's probably where the scrap metal ended up, incidentally.

    5. Re: Well by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      It's illegal to sell some things like this (moon rocks, etc.). That either creates free (aka "black") market pressures, or for the fully law-abiding, incentives to dispose.

      It's like kidneys - there's both a massive abundance and a massive shortage because the price mechanism is made illegal in the market. As usual, people suffer and die when the politicians get involved.

      In addition, the anti-free market, statist "murder is a crime" laws artificially inflate the cost of hiring a hitman.

      Wanker.

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    6. Re: Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A free market of organs is by definition a free market of people.

      We've tried that before. It didn't go down well.

  5. A lot of aluminum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man's gotta get his meth fix, at all costs.

  6. He probably has a grudge by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

    He probably has a grudge against NASA for proving that the Earth isn't flat.

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    1. Re:He probably has a grudge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just a physio-optical illusion.

    2. Re:He probably has a grudge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You think it's funny to laugh about the 'ignorant' Alabama-man because it is easier than wrapping your brain around the fact that Alabama put man on the moon.

    3. Re:He probably has a grudge by putaro · · Score: 1

      Alabama and a bunch of former Nazis

    4. Re:He probably has a grudge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks 2D to me.

    5. Re:He probably has a grudge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're going to go retard, you might as well go full retard. A roughly football field sized part of Alabama put a man on the moon [sic].

    6. Re:He probably has a grudge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh hi there [sic]. Can you tell me [sic] why you put a [sic] there?

    7. Re: He probably has a grudge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like transplanted German Nazis put men on the moon.

    8. Re:He probably has a grudge by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      And now they are putting Big Gulps and Twinkies into obese teenagers. http://www.businessinsider.com...

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    9. Re:He probably has a grudge by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1
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  7. More relevant title by Rurik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    NASA Agency Bureaucracy Lets Historic Antique Slip From Their Fingers

    If it didn't take them six months to reach out... Even a quick call "Hey, this is NASA. We heard you have one of our rovers. Could we just send someone over to verify?"

    1. Re:More relevant title by Krishnoid · · Score: 1, Troll

      I'd immediately know the call was fake. Now if it went, "Hey, this is Hollywood. We heard you have one of our rovers from the moon landing movie, and would like to buy it back ..."

    2. Re:More relevant title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No one with any authority in NASA cares about this kind of thing. It's been under the thumb of the anti-"space cowboy" crowd since Obama appeared. You don't take a leak as NASA without the blessing of a climate scientist today.

    3. Re:More relevant title by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      I think they'll get over it.

    4. Re:More relevant title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'We are willing to pay 100,000$ for the prototype.'

    5. Re:More relevant title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't take a leak as NASA without the blessing of a climate scientist today.

      I'm not even sure how that would work

  8. trash and treasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Truly an example where one person's trash is another person's treasure. (or is it vice-versa).

  9. The best punishment . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    . . . would be to let him know how much the thing was worth. He stole it and sold it as scrap - could have been a millionaire today :-/

    1. Re:The best punishment . . . by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      The article clearly states that the guy who sold it inherited the item after the previous owner passed away.

      If he had never been told what it was, he probably just assumed it was some weird project from his relative (possibly parent) that was taking up space. It'd be something that one might would even throw away except that anything large and metallic has scrap value so basically you get paid for your "trash".

      My dad and uncle went through a lot of this after my grandfather passed away. Behind his house he had a ton (well, actually many, many tons) of old tractors, plows, cars, etc that after they broke he just tossed in the woods behind his house (still on his property - just off of the cleared portion). After my granddad passed away just in the process of cleaning up the place they hauled off pretty much all of it and took in quite a few thousand dollars in scrap value.

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    2. Re:The best punishment . . . by snsh · · Score: 2

      If you've ever seen these lunar prototypes up close, you'd understand how it could get sold for scrap. Everything that was "space age" in the 1960's looks primitive today.

    3. Re:The best punishment . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Space Age itself looks primitive today, but some Space Nutters cling to the ancient ideas like a religion.

    4. Re:The best punishment . . . by tompaulco · · Score: 2

      If you've ever seen these lunar prototypes up close, you'd understand how it could get sold for scrap. Everything that was "space age" in the 1960's looks primitive today.

      Yes, that. And in addition, it was a "prototype" and as such may have been just frame and wheels, which could be mistaken for just about anything. The first picture in the article looks nothing like the actual lunar rover other than having a stupid looking antenna on top. It looks like 1000s of other homemade dunebuggies.

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    5. Re:The best punishment . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe things like fashion, but a rocket engine looks like a rocket engine, and guess when the 747 had its maiden flight?

    6. Re:The best punishment . . . by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      The Space Age itself looks primitive today, but some Space Nutters cling to the ancient ideas like a religion.

      You lack of faith disturbs me.

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    7. Re:The best punishment . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your lack of an "r" disturbs me.

    8. Re:The best punishment . . . by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Your lack of an "r" disturbs me.

      I'm saving them for talk like a pi_ate day.

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    9. Re:The best punishment . . . by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Yes, that. And in addition, it was a "prototype" and as such may have been just frame and wheels, which could be mistaken for just about anything. The first picture in the article looks nothing like the actual lunar rover other than having a stupid looking antenna on top. It looks like 1000s of other homemade dunebuggies.

      If it looked like the picture in the article, I'd probably agree with you. However, FTA: The rover was apparently massive: NASA notes that the Local Scientific Survey Module, as it was called, "weighs more than 8,000 pounds, is 21-feet long, 15-feet wide and has 6 wheels with 5-foot diameters."

      I don't know of too many people who would build something like that at all, let alone for a homemade dune buggy.

    10. Re: The best punishment . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just as you cling to the absurd notion that a happily married woman with three mids and a career would leave everything to be with... You? Should I remind you that with your record you have to notify the neighbourhood of you, erm, "status" and can't even get a job flipping burgers? Yes, her husband is an aerospace engineer. He used to be a football player too. Do you hold a grudge against "football nutters" too?

    11. Re: The best punishment . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, who let you near the psilocybin? What woman has three "mids"? Mid whats? And who is this woman and do I know her? How? From where?

      I have a fine job desinging things you would lack the capacity to even understand what they do, let alone how they work. I'll give you a hint; I work on sending photons up to satellites.

      I just don't think I'll live on that satellite. That's the difference between me and a crying child stomping his feet.

    12. Re: The best punishment . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still hanging on to delusions, I see, to the point where you jump up and down on a single typo. I should feel pity for you but for some strange reason, I don't. By the way... Your crayola drawings have never counted as "design". That teacher was just being kind to you in the hope encouragement would bring you out of what child psychologists at the time thought was a "phase". Turned out it wasn't.

  10. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A glorified dune buggy is considered "priceless"? It's not like it went to the moon or anything.

    And clearly there were better models that should be even more priceless, since it was just a prototype.

    1. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just pointing out...

      The one that actually went to the moon stayed there.

    2. Re: Huh? by hawguy · · Score: 1

      Just pointing out...

      The one that actually went to the moon stayed there.

      The rovers on the moon are priceless too... though are apparently worth less than the billions of dollars it would take to retrieve them.

  11. How hard were they trying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When you can't outbid a scrap metal dealer (or, if you must, can't convince the scrap metal dealer in question to flip the item to you for a quick 100% profit), how much effort were you really putting into this?

    1. Re:How hard were they trying? by hawguy · · Score: 1

      When you can't outbid a scrap metal dealer (or, if you must, can't convince the scrap metal dealer in question to flip the item to you for a quick 100% profit), how much effort were you really putting into this?

      It's kind of hard to outbid a scrap dealer when you aren't aware of the sale.

    2. Re:How hard were they trying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NASA spent much of 2014 attempting to acquire the priceless artifact for display in a museum

      So either NASA knew about it, or they sent a few interns to go bother a scrap dealer for most of a year for something they knew was already destroyed.

  12. But that's a priceless Steinway! by fustakrakich · · Score: 1
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  13. Just like Southpark episode by JoeyRox · · Score: 3, Funny
  14. And... by FaxeTheCat · · Score: 1

    norhing of value was lost.

  15. Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I like NASA. I like space exploration. However, I don't like NASA spending its limited time and resources to buy up antiques when it could be working on MORE space exploration.

    1. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Aboroth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That is an extremely short-sighted viewpoint. Money isn't everything. First of all, if all you care about it direct funding from it, they would easily be able to monetize this by reselling it at auction. Putting it in a museum would enrich people's lives, which is invaluable. Having displays with things like this, are ways people get inspired to do what they can to help in space exploration, either through their own talents or with donations. These "antiques" could very well inspire the next generation of space explorers, which are kind of necessary because the ones we have now are expected to die at some point.

    2. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by r-diddly · · Score: 0

      Kind of a good point. Especially since they already have one rover in a museum in DC. If they want to put a stop to the idea that they're a senile agency whose best years are behind them, not obsessing over their own history is a good place to start.

    3. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by hawguy · · Score: 1

      I like NASA. I like space exploration. However, I don't like NASA spending its limited time and resources to buy up antiques when it could be working on MORE space exploration.

      It's PR, which NASA has to do to secure funding - if you don't like NASA doing PR, then give them a guaranteed funding source that's not subject to the whims of the government that changes funding priorities every 4 years for projects that take decades to complete.

    4. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      Yeah because the money they would spend on this item would fund more space explorations *eye roll*

    5. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by GlennC · · Score: 1

      That is an extremely short-sighted viewpoint. Money isn't everything.

      I'm afraid that statement doesn't make much sense to a great number of Americans these days.

      Anything over 90 days is long-term, and money is how we keep score...the one with the most wins.

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    6. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh shut the fuck up with your broad generalizations. The world could use one less fuckwit, so go stick your head in a microwave.

    7. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      They do the "space exploration" thing like, well, rocket scientists.

      They do the "management/administration" thing about as well as Margaret's Knitting Knook.

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    8. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's still empty. There's your exploration. We do our "exploring" from our computer chairs now.

    9. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 0

      >> ...museum...displays...could very well inspire the next generation of space explorers, which are kind of necessary because the ones we have now are expected to die at some point.

      Found the baby boomer. What do I win?

    10. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Well said, sir!

    11. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There already is one in a museum and a few more on the moon. Somehow I doubt that the one that got destroyed would nave been the one to inspire people.

    12. Re: Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wins what, you troglodyte? The collapse of civilization? When was the last time you left the basement? The concentration of wealth in fewer hands is destroying the planetary biosphere that keeps you breathing and the society you depend on to survive. At what point will you get it? When your money is worthless?

    13. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by hey! · · Score: 1

      What's more prototypes per se don't necessarily have any particular historical value; it depends on the role the specific prototype played in the program that led to the actual devices used. Without the documentation of what the particular hardware was for and how it was used, a device like that is a mere curiosity.

      For example 30 years ago I worked in a lab where about 10% of our floor space was taken up with a prototype manned Mars rover. It was by no means a serious essay on what would be required for an actual, practical Mars vehicle; our lab was a seismology lab and the vehicle was merely a platform for a massive spring-loaded plunger that smacked the ground, producing sound waves that could be collected and analyzed. The point was to show that such a device could successfully be used from a mobile platform; the platform itself had no real value; the only reason it had motors is, I think, that the engineers thought it would be cooler that way; it didn't really need to move on its own power. I'm sure that that particular rover has been scrapped by now and it was no loss to history.

      Which is not to say that this vehicle wasn't historically valuable. But it sounds very different from the rovers that were actually sent to the moon. Without knowing why we can't say whether this vehicle was priceless or worthless.

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    14. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I disagree it's a waste of money. These artifacts inspire.

    15. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I always thought "we can do both" was the mentality of the Space Nutters?

    16. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Money isn't everything.

      You're right, there's also power.

    17. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      There is a fetishization of 'historical' stuff that has gone on for a long time in America.

      Nice older houses in many towns are labeled as 'Historic Homes' and tours go around the city to show them from time to time. I have to ask 'what that is historic happened in that house' and the plain truth is, it's just an old house. I love old houses and neighborhoods with old houses in them.

      But there has to be a limit, because we can't save everything as if it has 'historic value.' Most of the 'historic' things that are left simply didn't get scrapped.

    18. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A swift kick in the cunt.

    19. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what "inspired" the Apollo missions?

    20. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like NASA. I like space exploration. However, I don't like NASA spending its limited time and resources to buy up antiques when it could be working on MORE space exploration.

      You're kidding, right?

      One of NASA's primary missions after actual space exploration is to educate and inspire the next generation. I don't know about you, but if I was a kid and I went to see a genuine lunar rover in a museum, it would definitely inspire me.

    21. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by dave420 · · Score: 1

      It doesn't help when many of those "historic homes" are just a couple of hundred years old. That's not really "historic" in any meaningful sense of the word.

    22. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Also, a lot of a the original documentation for the rovers and the design process has been lost over the years. It was a long time ago... So having a prototype on hand could be quite useful for designing new rovers.

      It's the same with a lot of hardware, e.g. the Saturn V. We couldn't just build a new one, we would have to reverse engineer a lot of it from the ones we have left over.

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    23. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Then perhaps one of the dozen or so prototypes scattered around in museums would serve the purpose rather than this 8000 lb 21 ft x 15 ft behemoth? This one didn't look anything like the real rovers, it was a test unit for a direction that wasn't taken.

      Here are the locations of the existing prototypes, I am sure the Smithsonian would allow some people to take measurements if needed to make a new one:
      http://www.collectspace.com/ub...

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    24. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Money isn't everything.

      You're right, there's also power.

      And, except on slashdot, sex. With another person.

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    25. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      It's the same with a lot of hardware, e.g. the Saturn V. We couldn't just build a new one, we would have to reverse engineer a lot of it from the ones we have left over.

      It's the old IKEA problem. You never keep the instructions.

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    26. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      So what "inspired" the Apollo missions?

      Yuri Gagarin.

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    27. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by lucien86 · · Score: 1

      Sadly no. If 'Margaret's Knitting Knook' was run the way NASA was run it wouldn't be in business for very long. "Duuur lets save money by not buying in that new knitting shuttle to replace the old one that needs replacing... "

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    28. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by lucien86 · · Score: 1

      Von Braun and Wiley Ley, plus maybe Disney and a few others..

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    29. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      Their current mission statement is muslim outreach, not space travel.

    30. Re:Not a loss - this is the correct outcome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think there's somekind of quote regarding this, goes something like "great societies look forward, failing societies remember the past". That said it would be nice to restore this minor piece of history, Wernher Von Braun was sitting in it, that alone gives it some historical credence. But as you noted it should be done on the cheap. Not sure if the current owner is just looking to recover his money plus a little finders fee or if he thinks he's in for some big payday. Not sure I'd call him a "hero" until that question is answered.

  16. Alabama Man... by r-diddly · · Score: 1

    ...is sure giving Florida Man a run for his money lately!

    1. Re:Alabama Man... by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      Is this anything like the phenomenon where if there is a natural disaster the on location news crew finds the dumbest guy within 100 miles to put on the air.

    2. Re:Alabama Man... by geeper · · Score: 1

      ..now that Kentucky Man is out of the running...being cleared of shooting the drone and all.

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    3. Re:Alabama Man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He can bowl! He can drink! He can drink some more! Alabama man!

    4. Re:Alabama Man... by Lodlaiden · · Score: 1

      He wasn't cleared. He was vindicated.

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    5. Re:Alabama Man... by KGIII · · Score: 2

      Nope. Not really. That whole area is its own special kind of special. I say that because I care - I do own a house in Florida and I have shared some of the many things I've seen there. Nope, they're definitely unique in some ways and this is one of those ways. It could be selection bias, I guess, but I don't think so.

      Put it this way... I own a house in PCB, the home of Spring Break - really. They have a week long period, out of sync with the rest of the country, that they call FAG week. FAG is "Florida, Alabama, and Georgia." They double down on the cops, take the jails and empty them by shipping them to the annex up in Destin, and call in special Beach Police. Not because they're violent or mean. They just do some really stupid things. When you hear about all the deaths during Spring Break - check the week that it happened. It was probably during FAG week.

      They do have alligators so, there's that. And manatees. My place is pretty close to a special area that they've got signs telling people that, "Molesting the Manatees is a Serious Offense."

      No, I am not kidding. I love the place. They've got character.

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  17. he is dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    . . . would be to let him know how much the thing was worth. He stole it and sold it as scrap - could have been a millionaire today :-/

    Except you must have missed the part where the person died and the family sold it off for scrap when they were settling the estate... Probably looked like some broken dune buggy project to them.

    1. Re:he is dead. by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      Probably looked like some broken dune buggy project to them.

      I would think even in Alabama an all-electric dune buggy with 5-foot wheels would stand out a bit.

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    2. Re:he is dead. by KGIII · · Score: 1

      You, my friend, have never been to Alabama. Or Florida. Or Georgia. ;-)

      That whole little part of the country is its own sort of special. I have a house in Florida. I visit often. I am greatly amused. I am also easily amused. I'd not actually be surprised to see a moon rover going down the road in Alabama. What would surprise me is if it were the real one and not a mock-up. Hell, seeing a parade of the things wouldn't even make me bat an eye. I've seen swamp buggies (the platform type that are like ten feet tall) tooling down Rt. 98 in Panama City Beach. It's nowhere near the swamp, really. No, I'd not bat an eye.

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    3. Re:he is dead. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I would think even in Alabama an all-electric dune buggy with 5-foot wheels would stand out a bit.

      Yeah - they don't hanker to that commie electrical powered vehicle shit.

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  18. Andy Griffith by tekrat · · Score: 2

    Andy had the right idea. Build a rocket, go to the moon, and bring back all the scrap NASA left behind. Can't get over how much this mirrors "Salvage 1".

    Now all we need is some Monohydrazine.

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    1. Re:Andy Griffith by Dins · · Score: 1

      Thanks - now I'm having a major fit of nostalgia... I watched the hell out of that show when I was 9 or 10 and loved it. It all just seemed so simple - we'll just build a rocket out of scrap! That's it!

    2. Re:Andy Griffith by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " It all just seemed so simple - we'll just build a rocket out of scrap! That's it!"

      That sums up Space Nuttery nicely. "It seems simple! We'll colonize the universe with the private space companies run by billioniares!"

      Ah, childhood.

    3. Re:Andy Griffith by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you APK ??

  19. No one is asking the important question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So how did the old owner come in possession of the lunar rover prototype ? This is the interesting question.
    What's next, hillbilly finds an old Mercury capsule in his backyard and NASA wants it back ?

    1. Re:No one is asking the important question... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      If all the scrap at NASA had to be 'preserved' we would have to clear out every building in D.C. that isn't the Smithsonian to store it all in.

      Hmmm, that's not a bad idea.

  20. Rocket City Rednecks? by tekrat · · Score: 2

    Huntsville Alabama is where they hid Von Braun so he wouldn't get lynched. As a result, a lot of Space Research happens there. See "Rocket City Rednecks", a bad reality TV show where some NASA engineer spends his weekends making dumb shit out of junk with his redneck buddies.

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    1. Re:Rocket City Rednecks? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Troll

      Huntsville Alabama is where they hid Von Braun so he wouldn't get lynched.

      They chose Huntsville because a nazi wouldn't stick out.

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    2. Re:Rocket City Rednecks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Travis Taylor is a friend of mine. He's smarter and richer than you'll ever be, and has contracts with NASA and DoD.

      I guess being a redneck worked for him.

      Still think you deserve $15/hour?

  21. HA HA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdOPBP9vuZA

    Seems...fitting for some reason. Don't know why, just does.

  22. no you didn't by publiclurker · · Score: 5, Funny

    America put a man on the moon, we just used your real estate so if anything went wrong, nothing important would be damaged.

    1. Re:no you didn't by publiclurker · · Score: 0

      just because the truth shows you in a bad light does not mean that we are under any requirements to lie. How about you improve yourself instead of crying for political correctness.

    2. Re:no you didn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's from Alabama.

    3. Re: no you didn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What truth? That all people from california are gay, drug abusing hipsters that the rest of the country would love to see swallowed up in the next "big one". Earthquake that is, not the cock you usually suck. Oh, and I'm not from the south BTW

    4. Re:no you didn't by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The Dead Kennedy's song is 'California Uber Alles' not anything about Alabama.

    5. Re:no you didn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fun fact: They didn't launch from Alabama.

      Never go full retard.

  23. The Bigger Tradegy by sycodon · · Score: 1

    ...is that there is not a current lunar lander model people can look at...as in circa 2015.

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    1. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by viperidaenz · · Score: 0

      There are mars rovers. They're cooler than lunar rovers

    2. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by sycodon · · Score: 1

      Not unless they have reclining bucket seats.

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    3. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by AJWM · · Score: 1

      This. Absolutely this. Very few people would give a rat's ass about an ancient prototype if we had rovers being driven around on the Moon today.

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    4. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is that a tragedy? The Moon is a dead dusty rock fer Christ's sake. So what? We went, we saw, we realized it's not for us.

      Are you also upset we don't build these anymore?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Why this nerd outrage at the failed tragico-romantic visions of the Space Age priests?

    5. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What possible purpose would they serve? We don't even want pilots in planes or drivers in cars right here, send more robots, watch video.

    6. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by stridebird · · Score: 1

      It isn't. It's a tradegy. Pay attention.

    7. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not a tragedy. Technology marches on, and the bad ideas of the past are left behind, as they should be.

    8. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by stridebird · · Score: 1

      It's not a tragedy

      Right. It's a tradegy. Or am I the only one who sees this?

    9. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably. I fail to see the "tragedy" in test pilots being unable to wear Space Depends while on a joyride on a dead rock at the cost of billions of dollars.

      So. Fucking. What?

      Space is a dead end. Sure, there was tons of colorful propaganda and mindless enthusiasms back then, but it all fizzled out. Here are a few other things from the Space Age that never happened but I *never* see any mourning for them

      -Living in ocean habitats
      -Drilling to the center of the Earth
      -Scientific expeditions to the ocean floor.

      Is the loss of these any less "tragic"?

    10. Re: The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck you, dude.

    11. Re: The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The massive intellectual capacity of the Space Nutter. "But I want my astronaut lunch box and my space ice cream! WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

    12. Re: The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's married. Three kids. Give up.

    13. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      http://www.collectspace.com/ub...

      There appear to be many of them around, the Smithsonian Air and Space museum has one, and ironically Marshall in Huntsville, Alabama has one.

      --
      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    14. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by ABZB · · Score: 1

      I disagree. Such artifacts are to the future humans [in the broadest sense of 'human'] as the fire-making kit of the human[s] who started the whole fire thing. As the remains of the first cities that our species built. A thousand thousands years from now, our descendants will look to such things and call them by what they are - the start of the beginning of everything. There are a number of quite good works of science fiction that involve this very thing - plot aside, it boils down to the loss of such things, and terrible tragedy of losing the keepsake of humanity's youth forever.

    15. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fiction, dude. Fiction. Stop building this emotional dramatic mythos around what was a Cold War ICBM.

      "the start of the beginning of everything"

      You're insane.

    16. Re: The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awwww, does the poor widdle kid want some space ice cream in his astronaut lunch box? Stop crying, there there, we'll all survive right here on this planet. There's no death asteroid, no moon colony, no space-based solar power.

      Try reality instead, you'll be far happier.

    17. Re: The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, I know you're mad. I can feel your anger. But... She's taken. Get over it. That's the only "reality" you need to get into your head. Not the absurd plans you've been making for 15 YEARS NOW to "win her back".

    18. Re: The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You, me, everyone else, this planet, forever.

    19. Re:The Bigger Tradegy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give this man a codemy award.

  24. dibs! by lophophore · · Score: 1

    I call dibs on the ones on the moon.

    There's three of them up there, just waiting to be salvaged.

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    there are 3 kinds of people:
    * those who can count
    * those who can't
    1. Re:dibs! by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      I'll pay you $1 million for one, on delivery to my front door.

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      Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
    2. Re:dibs! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I'll pay 1,000,001. I'll even help you offload it into my garage - and I'll buy you beer. All the beer, and bacon, you can consume in a weekend.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    3. Re:dibs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be quite an accomplishment seeing as how google is awarding tens of millions of dollars just to get some small lunar rovers to the moon. Most of which I believe are all piggybacking on a single SpaceX launch.

  25. MOD +5 INSIGHTFUL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this definitely makes the most logical sense

  26. spent much of 2014 attempting to acquire by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    NASA spent much of 2014 attempting to acquire the priceless artifact for display in a museum

    Sounds like they didn't try too hard if they couldn't compete with a scrap yard.

    1. Re:spent much of 2014 attempting to acquire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And, It sounds like NASA wanted that prototype to be destroyed.

    2. Re:spent much of 2014 attempting to acquire by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      It also doesn't sound like it was 'priceless.' I wonder what the dude got for it.

    3. Re:spent much of 2014 attempting to acquire by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      NASA spent much of 2014 attempting to acquire the priceless artifact for display in a museum

      Sounds like they didn't try too hard if they couldn't compete with a scrap yard.

      The senate oversight committee is probably still deciding whether to approve NASA's first bid

      --

      Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.

  27. Already one in Huntsville by h.ross.perot · · Score: 1

    I remember one (A rover) in the Saturn V hall.

    --
    ... I'll have a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster with a side of Plutonium Nyborg ...
  28. That's no way to treat Hollywood props! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    [OUTRO... roll credits... R.E.M's "Man on the Moon" ...if you believed they put a man on the moon....
    ]

  29. Our neighbor had an Apollo Command Module mockup.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in his back yard. He worked at Draper Labs in Cambridge. They were going to throw it away.
    It wasn't that fantastic a thing -- basically a fiberglass cone in roughly the shape of the
    Command Module with just a few non-functional (i.e. flat with painted buttons and toggles)
    control panels. I guess they used it to make sure things would fit. Still it was
    pretty cool. This was in the early 70s.

  30. The headline is all wrong! by cmeans · · Score: 4, Funny

    Should read..."Alabama Man Removes Junk from His Yard". Of course, no one would believe it.

  31. Don't blame him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    unless he STOLE the rover, the fact that he has it, and NASA doesn't, probably means that nobody in NASA cared for 50 years.

    So don't be too hard on this guy just cause he didn't care -- after all, neither did NASA

    1. Re:Don't blame him by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Well, to be fair, lots of stuff gets destroyed because nobody recognized the future value. Also, they thought they'd be going back. It probably was a pretty trivial piece of trash to them that took up space and an uncoordinated man named Donald kept stubbing his toe on it.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
  32. SOLD by davesays · · Score: 1

    Seriously, who doesn't just ask the guy, "how much for that?" I know I would have if I knew what it was. For scrap value, just bust out the wallet; square up with NASA later or keep it if they don't. I always taught my kids to, at least, ask. You would be surprised what happens when you do. I could have had a rover or the country could have had a rover back, but either is better than scrap...

  33. Always knew Alabama Man was an asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thanks to South Park.

  34. Dude never by terrywirth5 · · Score: 1

    heard about the Internet or eBay in the neighborhood.

    1. Re: Dude never by terrywirth5 · · Score: 1

      Clarification: I heard that the dude did hear about eBay but thought it had something to do with fishing.

  35. Re:What do you expect from somone in Alabama ? by KGIII · · Score: 1

    Nah, they marry their (proper spelling, by the way) in the hills of West Virginia. And, oddly, Portugal. You can marry your sister in Portugal. :/ At least that's what the news said quite a while back - 'twas on Fark as I recall. No, I have no idea why. Well, no... I know why it was on Fark. I don't know why they allowed it. It was a rather specific amendment, as I recall.

    --
    "So long and thanks for all the fish."
  36. Serves 'em right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what they get for building Rocket City USA in a state full of imbred redneck 'tards who never got over the fact that a black man is allowed by law to vote. Let alone hold the highest office in the nation.

  37. What about their foremost priority? by raymorris · · Score: 1

    That's not what the head of NASA, Charles Bolden says. Mr. Bolden explains their top three priorities as:

    When I became the Nasa administrator, he [Obama] charged me with three things.
    One, he wanted me to help reinspire children to want to get into science and math;
    he wanted me to expand our international relationships;
    and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good

  38. Thus proving the incompetance of the current NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least in the administrative areas, where profligate spending of money is a job requirement.

  39. Re:Thus proving the incompetance of the current NA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love it when people can't spell "incompetence" ...

  40. They didn't get your joke. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should have said "We heard you had one of our RED ROVERS, send someone on over."

    If they don't get that, then tell them to get off your lawn.

  41. They Found It. Not Destroyed! by IsNewToYou · · Score: 1

    http://motherboard.vice.com/re... The junk yard had kept it because they somewhat knew what it was.

  42. States rights? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which rights specifically, other than their presumed right to own people and use them for their own economic gain?

  43. Send the Pickers in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NASA should have sent the History Channel's American Pickers crew to buy the piece of historical junk :-)

  44. "Hero"? That remains to be seen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whether or not this guy is a "hero" is still up in the air in my mind, he deserves to get his money back and maybe a little finders fee/perks on top of it but anything beyond would seem to negate that title.

  45. eBay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why didn't he sell/auction it on eBay ?