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Ask Slashdot: How Do I Reduce Information Leakage From My Personal Devices?
Mattcelt writes: I find that using an ad-blocking hosts file has been one of the most effective way to secure my devices against malware for the past few years. But the sheer number of constantly-shifting server DNs to block means I couldn't possibly manage such a list on my own. And finding out today that Microsoft is, once again, bollocks at privacy (no surprise there) made me think I need to add a new strategic purpose to my hosts solution — specifically, preventing my devices from 'phoning home'. Knowing that my very Operating Systems are working against me in this regard incenses me, and I want more control over who collects my data and how. Does anyone here know of a place that maintains a list of the servers to block if I don't want Google/Apple/Microsoft to receive information about my usage and habits? It likely needs to be documented so certain services can be enabled or disabled on an as-needed basis, but as a starting point, I'll gladly take a raw list for now.
Never use an internet connected device
Freedome VPN claims to help with this:
https://www.f-secure.com/en_US...
Forget a smart phone. Use a simple prepaid phone and don't link it to anything.
Is there a way to use some things (E.g. Google Maps) with known leaks, without exposing every activity to Google all the time on unrelated sites. It seems like limiting some domains make sense, but I'm thinking of things like cloudfront.net
Also, is there some way to prevent the CDN-style spying/extra downloads?
Your ad here. Ask me how!
How the hell are you someone that's been on slashdot EVER and haven't been bombarded by "APK" posts.
Google "APK Hosts File Engine".
To where?
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
There are plenty of OS's that are not made by Micsro$soft and do not 'phone-home'.
There is a small list
http://www.howtogeek.com/190217/10-alternative-pc-operating-systems-you-can-install/
You haven't been given the same tools on your mobile device as we have on desktops, because the ad revenue from mobile devices is what everybody most wants.
The OS, and every app largely exist to track you and serve you ads.
I'd be surprised if there was an easy mechanism, which worked on multiple devices, and didn't require a rooted device. Because this is precisely the kind of thing which isn't nearly as available as it should be.
Me, I'm betting the OS makers have pretty much decided no way in hell you're getting that kind of control, and if they gave it to you malicious apps would use it to take over where your device really goes.
Being able to control that is a two way street, and the potable devices don't surrender as much control.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
Windows will never really be safe, you have no idea what the heck MS is up to today, and what the next service pack will do. Just install FC23 or whatever and be done with it.
"Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." -- Jefferson
Keep the device switched off in the bottom drawer of a locked filing cabinet, in an disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'beware of the leopard'
I've gone the route of using VPN to my home network, and using a DNS Server with the Hosts file installed, effectively destroying many advertising links on my mobile devices. Unfortunately, it's not perfect, but I have ad-block in nearly ever application on my iDevice now.
Fundamentalism stops a thinking mind.
To your home server, obviously. Where you have to whitelist addresses. After a few weeks of frustration, you'll probably wish you had just used a decent RBL.
Then how about a piece of software advertised via the "Third Party Misc Tools" section of a site operated by Malwarebytes?
Also watch for the "ad spaminem" fallacy.
If you don't want to root your device and don't want to tunnel all your traffic to a VPN server (adds latency) , you can use one of the Android "NoRoot" firewalls that routes app traffic through a local VPN for inspection and filtering. This uses more CPU and battery, but all protection is done within your mobile device. It takes a lot of manual effort to build a policy that blocks undesirable traffic and still lets apps work.
You can tunnel your traffic to a commercial VPN provider, but now you are trusting them to maintain performance and not invade your privacy, and they won't have any visibility to the contents of traffic that is inside SSL/TLS encryption, for better or for worse (e.g. cannot inspect Android apps downloaded as APKs from SSL websites).
Better yet, you can root the device and add your own Certificate Authority and firewall settings. Now you can use your own VPN to ensure all traffic from all applications goes to a remote VPN headend for inspection/modification, even traffic the device thinks is encrypted with SSL. If you have many users going through the same VPN, you can do things with packets and headers to make it difficult for CDNs and ad networks to identify individual users who are all behind the same gateway.
If you have more time than money, you can build up a VPN headend with open source tools (e.g. Squid+SSLbump)., and write policy to block traffic that doesn't meet your security policy, and to log what your device tries to send. You can use header modification to strip out identifying information and cookies.
If you are a business or otherwise have more money than time, the expensive approach is to use a commercial firewall appliance that has a client VPN and URL filtering service (e.g. Checkpoint, Palo Alto, Juniper, F5, etc). You set up the VPN to send all your mobile device traffic through the firewall, and use firewall policy to decrypt SSL, inspect APKs, and block ads. This solution is very effective at blocking ads and undesirable network traffic, and can often detect or block malicious APKs and other attacks.
I do not deploy Linux. Ever.
You can't install it as an APK on your Android device because only root can write to the hosts file, and by default, only an Android device's manufacturer (not its owner) is root.
1) Root your phone. If you don't have full control over your device, you have no chance.
2) Install Xposed Framework (http://repo.xposed.info/)
3) Install Xprivacy (http://repo.xposed.info/module/biz.bokhorst.xprivacy)
Xprivacy doesn't block your programs from sending whatever they want to send - if you try to do that, most programs will crash. Instead, it feeds your programs completely false information. Boom, you win.
Two things...
1. VPN your network connection.
2. Don't put anything on your device you wouldn't want to publish on line.
Apart from that, who cares? IF you do, you are either worried about stuff you shouldn't for health reasons, or stupid to put information into that portable computer you call a Smartphone/Tablet..
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
I think you're running into the limitations a blacklist has -- you can't effectively block all known "bad" domains because there are simply too many.
It'd be more efficient to create a whitelist of all domains/servers you'd like to access instead, since you'd have that information much more readily available.
Install ubuntu touch.
I prevent leakage by using those little plastic bags with the two rows of ziplock. Especially the ones with the yellow and blue making green (even though it’s actually magenta and cyan that make green).
Here's my old comment verbatim:
First of all there are immortal cookies (infinite cache entries created specifically for your unique PC). Secondly, there's a unique combination of your web browser + OS + fonts + plug ins: https://panopticlick.eff.org/ Thirdly, there are unique patterns in your behaviour (websites that you visit and how frequently you do that) and other wonderful metrics to trace you.
If you want to avoid being traced and tracked there's just one way:
This is actually a recipe for browsing the web anonymously however this is the reality of the modern web - not to be traced means to be anonymous as much as possible.
All other ways are only half measures. Or, like people have suggested, you may stop using the Internet completely. It should have long been renamed to a "Trackingnetwork".
If you really want to start limiting info gathering, I would suggest a 2nd phone for digital work.
Your first phone might just be analog voice only, or at least you don't do digital on it.
Move the digital phone from ATT to Verizon every month back and forth with a new SIM card and disposable email addresses & new phone numbers if you really want to limit access.
Connecting through your lapto through a cell phone hotspot connection isolates it from WIFI snooping.
Brave beta is just out. A project from the former CEO of Mozilla.
AFAICT out of the box one of the safest and most private browsers around.
Definitely a leg up from the usual suspects.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
Personally trying to set up a Ubiquity EdgeRouter to do the same. In my case, there are just a few devices I don't want to have any external access, so I will have a dedicated SSID for them and provide local network access but no routing. Other things I will have to manually switch a network port for a device to give access to the Internet.
Haven't hit the point yet where I feel a need to do a transparent proxy; my goal is mainly to strip "cloud" functionality off devices that I don't want to have it.
Try too hard though, and you will drive yourself batty.
(For the iPhone, I use 1-Blocker. It does a pretty good job, but far from perfect.)
Trust no one.
If it can keep crap out, it can keep crap in right?
Don't buy any devices.
If that is the case, then shouldn't it be possible to create a program that pre-cashes all outgoing streams prior to their being sent and then inject meaningless random signals into the stream so that the receiving end simply gets garbled data?
This way one could conceivably "randomize" data except that you specifically wish to transmit. Presumably, such an algorithm would intercept all interrupts, trace their source, and randomize as required. No doubt it would greatly slow the system, but would it not in theory work?
Like a dog with it's leg up in the air and waiting for the piss to come. Because that's what brave is. As in you are brave if you think that a YACC (yet-another-Chromium-clone) is going to be the end all privacy-conscious super-powers-to-the-user browser of the future then you deserve to be pissed on.
You want privacy? NO TURN-KEY SOLUTION WILL EVER BE COMPLETELY PRIVATE. Start with TAILS Linux and a TOR enabled browser and JavaScript disabled then you'd be taking a step in the right direction, but with much distance still to travel since it will require drastic changes to your online habits to remain truly private in today's world.
I have no idea what you are saying.
BB10!
Obama's legacy: (N)othing (S)ecure (A)nywhere and (T)error (S)imulation (A)dministration
For Computers - OS X and Little Snitch https://www.obdev.at/products/...
A bit costly but it does the job you want.
Also, OS X being a UNIX machine, you can use your hosts file.
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The last I read, Brave will inject it's own ads. No thanks.
I've been running Linux since kernel 0.99a (the first one that had networking that really 'just worked'). I can count the number of times an x86-based piece of hardware that I could ATTEMPT to boot an install medium on failed to actually install without some sort of effort (and in EVERY case I got the machine working by searching around online for a bit and adding a kernel boot param). This includes many different laptops. I think there've been a very few cases where some ancillary piece of hardware on a laptop didn't actually have a driver, but it was always something weird. I bought a newer Logitech USB headset last year, and never could get Linux to work with that, so its not that ONE HUNDRED percent of stuff always works, but the ratio is 99% at this point, even of new hardware.
Truth is there's enough people out there running linux on most hardware, often as parts of various products where the consumer never sees the OS and doesn't need windows, so that few vendors avoid Linux support anymore. Even weird stuff like my Chromebook, and various oddball laptops all seemed to work. Truthfully even if there's a weird peripheral on them someone has developed support for it.
Frankly its gotten to the point where you just don't even need to consider hardware compatibility, though certainly if I am going to build a machine or buy a printer or whatever I'll go find out how well the hardware support works and buy what is likely to be 'the best'.
While I'm clearly a 'Linux guy' I'm far from a ravening hardcore 'true believer' either. Its just that over the years, certainly for my purposes, its proven to be most useful. The fact that its relatively secure and entirely free of 'surprises' is a bonus.
"Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." -- Jefferson
turkeyfish is suggesting that the TCP/IP sockets layer attempts to cache all the data being sent. Unfortunately, this isn't going to work because the reason the application stalls is because the TCP/IP layer is attempting to request a DHCP address from the network (which isn't going to happen), look up the address of a particular hostname (which isn't going to happen either), then stalling again when it tries to open a synchronised two-way connection with the desired host (which isn't going to happen as well).
Vintage computer adverts: http://www.vintageadbrowser.com/computers-and-software-ads
Adult Depends should work (or were you talking about personal electronic devices? I only read the headlines).
"I have no idea what you are saying."
Proof that the scheme works.
You can't see ANYTHING from a car, You've got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk...Edward Abbey
My subthread was about this tracking being better (or at least unnoticeable) if performed asynchronously to the main program thread (it works offline just fine). They likely use the word cache (or cash) when they meant buffer. And changing the outgoing data is just going to cause an error response from Apple and still put the app on hold . Why not just block the request or simulate a dead connection (airplane mode) instead? There's no point interpreting his post, it's worse technobabble than you'd find in an episode of CSI: Cyber.
Use the force. Repeat until smashed into gray goo.
bamboozled by bullshit
Go well
About 18 years ago, well before our current models of internet, social media and data collection were even born I had an interesting experience.
I applied for a high end insurance package with a lot of umbrella/liability protection that came at a very low cost. The cost was low because as my insurance agent put it "They're going to crawl up your with a microscope the size of a small country". Since I've held top secret and nuclear q clearances, this didn't really bother me.
About 3 weeks later I get a call from an investigator asking what my association was with an ex-girlfriend's ex-husband. I'd actually never met him and only dated her for a few months and there was very little paperwork of any form where we'd be 'linkable'. As in she may have filled out some forms with my address/phone as an alternative contact on her health insurance or at Blockbuster. And yet here I was answering questions about how well I knew her ex. As it turns out, back in the 80's he'd been implicated in some insurance fraud.
All without access to any of my internet doings, because it barely existed at the time.
Right now I know everything I buy at a store with a loyalty program, everything I buy from credit cards or on an online retailer is fully sorted and collated and probably sold many times. My picture is taken dozens of times a day when I'm not aware of it, with many of those photos linked to usage of a payment method or some other means of identifying me and the picture.
I guess the long and short of it is that someone somewhere knows a hell of a lot more than you think they do, even if you shop with cash and a mask.
These days I'm more interested in simplicity and convenience. I use a chrome box and a chrome book with 1tb of Drive storage. Its unlikely that something can persistently get into either product without physical access. I'd suspect that google has far better protections for my data than I could ever provide even if I were an expert in every aspect of security and maintenance. I'd imagine that they follow far more rules about who and what can look at my data than the local supermarket does.
I also imagine that if I used some super secure hardware with a super secure open sourced everything, a VPN and encrypted everything I might be safer. From what is a different question. I'd also imagine that I'd land on some watch list and would be okay with that because I'd imagine that a lot of people who would stray so far to secure their privacy are doing it because they're routinely committing crimes or planning to do so.
Well that explains the screams coming from your toilet.
I've handled this issue in the past for devices I just use for web surfing by not setting a default gateway on the network interface (via dhcp most of the time). Then I use socks proxying over ssh to a jump box on my network with firefox for my web browsing (Firefox is loaded with ABP and Ghostery).
> CSI: Cyber.
Ha! I Googled. That actually exists!
Err... I don't get out much.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
If a smart TV has ethernet and wifi, never use it. Use the USB or that data connections to "sneaker net" any files to the device.
Buy a camera thats a camera and not a networked database device with a good lens. Select the images you like and upload them later or from an OS.
Sort the images on a computer and select only the images you want to share. Understand that any free cloud, hosting, advertizing network or OS uploads will have all images examined for facial recognition, for images of interest of the security services, NGO's and police.
Facial recognition: Privacy advocates raise concern over 'creepy' system Government says will enhance national security (10 Sep 2015)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/201...
Stop uploading your information to turn key, free services supplied by advertizing brands.
Understand what Microsoft, Apple and Google do and offer to profit from you and your use of their products and services.
Securing against cloud and networked products is not a good idea. They have your data just by using their products.
Use MS or Apple OS for a limited set of applications. Play games on MS, enjoy media on Apple. Anything more interesting and keep it to an OS that you understand and know will not "phone home" or use cloud AV on every file.
The need for a device that can live stream video is useful, ensure that that device is only used for that. If lost or taken, all that is lost is that device and not other data sets, files, contacts.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Best bet is for a fire wall router to block all undesirable IPs out and in and this updated from the internet, with user interaction required. Trying to secure an OS from perv http://www.urbandictionary.com... OS manufacturer, is impossible, the can straight up go around any software blocks you put in and redo them every single update. So either drop the OS or upgrade to a secure modem router designed with the express purpose of blocking pervert corporations. Windows anal probe 10, specifically requires a redesign of the firewall router to keep M$'s prying eyse out of you system. You might very need to check and approve of disapprove every single IP address the router firewall attempts to access. So the firewall reports back with a delivered page for each new IP access with a request for temporarily approve, allow or block, with details gathered about the site and presented, before access to the site is allowed.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
So, I've been trying out your HOSTS list. It has blocked all these web sites:
Some I can understand, but most of them just seem like overkill
To stop leakage, buy an Ipad with wings.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
It's worse than it sounds. I watched the first episode and laughed. It has worse technobabble than regular CSI's "GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP"... By far.
he seems to know already you need to block at the router.
what he is looking for is a simple list. amazingly nobody has posted one.
one problem is that you need to keep updating the list, because microsoft keeps adding new to the list.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Only mention of "financial models" in the thread? But that is the key.
IF (the big "if") the financial model depends on protecting your privacy, then your privacy might get protected.
If the financial model depends on abusing your privacy, then you are firetrucked.
Small solution: Persuade the google (good luck, Mr Phelps!) to add a financial model tab to Google Play. The developer would explain what the financial model is, and the google would add a secure annotation about any part of the financial model they can confirm. This would give us some basis to decide which apps might be legit. (However, as regards the google, remember that their operative motto now is "All your attention are belong to us.")
Big solution for the push advertising part of the problem: Turn the entire system on its head with a privacy-protection intermediary for a pull-driven advertising system. (Details of one possible implementation available upon polite request.)
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
For not having watched television for 3 decades, you seem to be able to practically quote The Simpsons:
We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere - like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say.
Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
I'm told I can get OTA, even with just an internal antenna, but I've never actually tried it and I don't believe them anyhow.
I do use OTA. But I have a poor connection and poor aim - it's inside my attic pointed at a metal vent and with trees and a building in the way. And for that matter, I think the F-connector was crimped onto the cable wrong at the attic end. The antenna itself is half a broken outdoor antenna that I got for free from a friend. At 40 miles out, I get all the major networks in HD (ABC, FOX, CBS, NBC, CW, PBS). It's better quality that satellite or cable, since they recompress and rebroadcast from antenna source anyway.
And if you prefer to do your viewing on a computer screen while multitasking, get an HDHomerun network tuner.
I might have to look into it for the missus. I guess I can get her satellite if she really wants it. The place is covered in solar panels, it might as well have an uglier doodad sticking out of it somewhere.
According to this site:
https://transition.fcc.gov/mb/...
I get nothing...
I could have sworn there was a local site from maine.gov but I am not seeing it. You can put in Rangeley, Maine. My home is actually about 24 miles away from the village center. That site says nothing reaches me but neighbors have said that I should get it. I'm also way, way up on the side of a hill. I seem to recall one neighbor telling me that they even got some Canadian channels with their aerial antenna. I'm a wee bit more than 40 miles out - probably closer to 120 miles out, as the crow flies.
I am now a bit curious. I'll have to poke at it when I get home. It'll give me an excuse to get up on the roof and check the solar panels and see if any damage was done during the winter. Thanks! (No novel this time, I am tired.)
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Way up on a hill will greatly increase your range (as will having a mast otherwise). In fact, instead of putting your street address or zip, put in your direct latitude and longitude (zoom in on Google Maps and pull it from the URL as a cheap trick). Or drag the marker. That web site takes elevation into account. I always used antennaweb.org but I like this a lot too. No parameters on either site to adjust for a taller antenna or a stronger gain antenna.
Problem with these sites is that if you're "out of range" it tells you nothing. I put in 44.8960003,-70.5338503 (which is 10 miles SE of Rangeley) and it lights up with several channels. Even Rangeley Planatation lights up.
I dragged the marker to the tops of hills (mountains?) all around Rangeley and get channel listings showing. Just not in the valleys (where the larger hills cut off the signal).
I'll definitely have to give it a shot? I'm not completely anti-television or anything. I'm just not into TV enough to have a dish on my house. I'd probably watch Nova or Frontline if I remembered when they came on. With a TV card, I can even go so far as to do my own DVR thing. That's good thinking, thanks! It might even keep the missus amused but she doesn't seem to be into TV a whole lot either. She just kind of turns it on and meanders around aimlessly. She's kind of taken to playing with VMs of varied OSes as of late. She does the same thing in all of them (mostly contacting friends back home and reading a few sites that she seems to like) but at least she's having fun and mostly harmless.
I guess one technically has to be a mile high to be a mountain or something like that? If that's true, Maine only has one technical mountain. The rest are just hills. They're old and have been rubbed off by glaciation. They're not majestic, like the Rockies, but are old and wise mountains. (That's really what they remind me of.)
So, I'm probably not technically on the side of a mountain at home. At least not on a mountain that's a mile high. I just typed in Rangeley (I don't actually have a zip code of my own) but moving the marker does seem to indicate more than if I type in the name. So, I might get something up on the house. I'm also on the "right" side of the mountain - so I'm exposed to the SSE which lines me up with the side to get reception.
I have a friend with a rather fancy transit. I think that's what they're called. At any rate, leveled out and looking through it has shown that my house is quite a ways up there. The cell phones and GPS all say different heights. All of them. Even if they're on the deck railing, they say different heights. Otherwise, I'd share that information too but it so happens that I not only don't remember it, it's seemingly pretty inaccurate. As I recall, they had as much as 50' of difference between them? (We tried a few in one day, one of which was even a fairly expensive Garmin or the other brand - TomTom I think.)
*snickers* Someone has come along and moderated me as OFF TOPIC. I mean, really? It's not incorrect but that's kind of what I do. I might be on-topic once in a while but it's not intentional! Pfft... Slashdot *IS* my personal blog. Thank you. It was good for a chuckle. I'd say I'm sorry but I'd rather not lie and I am not sorry. In fact, I'm so not sorry that I'll probably do it again tomorrow. 'Cause that's what I do.
Either way, I'll certainly have to look into it. From the looks of things - and doing a little more research, I might not even have to go with an outdoor antenna. I do not actually have an attic (double envelope house - salt-box style if you're curious) but I can probably figure something out internally - if needed. I mostly just stream stuff. I'm not actually sure what I'd do if I didn't have broadband. I've not had it before but I always had something to put on in the background. If it gets really rough, I can read.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
I'd install http://wiki.debian.org/iptable...
Casteism
APK, you forgot to answer my question for a third time. Here it is again:
OK, you're saying that you post as AC so people can avoid you? Then here's a question: if you purposefully post using low karma so that your spam is easy to avoid, then why do you re-post your spam when someone mods it down?
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
None of apk's downmodders prove him wrong on his points on hosts in his posts so it's definitely sockpuppeteers from adblock shills like you and advertisers that bought almostalladsblocked out so it doesn't work right by default who farm karma to abuse it downmodding is who is doing it.
Take a deep breath and try that sentence again.
None of your downmodders prove you wrong? News flash: people who moderate a thread cannot post in that thread, and vice-versa. So, yeah, people who want to hide your spam don't also take the time to try and address any points you make, they just hide your spam. That's how it works here. Welcome to Slashdot, Alex.
Which Anonymous Coward incessantly talks about how no one can prove him wrong? Which Anonymous Coward accuses everyone of being a sockpuppet? Which Anonymous Coward accuses people of being adblock shills? Which Anonymous Coward uses the term "almostalladsblocked"? Which Anonymous Coward keeps trying to post as other people and thinks that no one knows what he's doing? What's the first rule when dealing with a spammer?
I suspect you of doing it in fact amicusnycl.
I'm sure you do. I actually believe you when you say that. But you're wrong about it, and I know for a fact that you're wrong because you're talking about me, which just goes to reinforce my opinion of you and what you think about me. I haven't used my mod points in probably 3 months, I honestly can't remember the last story I modded. They keep giving me 15, but they keep expiring before I use them.
Ever wondered why slashdot wouldn't help you when you said you wrote dice?
No, I didn't, because I realize that the management of Slashdot doesn't really give a shit. If they gave a shit about making Slashdot a great place then it would support Unicode. They bought the site and have been just riding it out since then. BTW, Dice does not own Slashdot any more.
By the way, which Anonymous Coward knows that I wrote to Slashdot about filtering out your spam?
It was the same when you tried to get apk's software removed by malwarebytes hphosts and they wouldn't.
Steve still thanks me when I send him your spam reports. He's a pleasant guy to deal with. You've seen what I've sent him, you know that I'm not being emotional or vindictive, I just send him the collection of your spam links when you flood a story.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
I figured you would offer some lame non-reply. I was right.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Asking again. Question: You on topic?
Definitely.
You can't prove apk wrong on hosts.
I've never attempted to. I don't care to.
I figured you'd avoid a simple question with a lame evasion.
Truly, you are a master of the "I know you are but what am I?" school of debate, APK.
This is what your little fit is down to now, throwing out the same lame non-insults and evading any questions about your spamming habits or the fact that you dishonestly misrepresent yourself. You're a paper tiger. You're pathetic. You think that if you claim victory enough times then people will start to believe you've won. You haven't won anything, you're desperate to appear intelligent or meaningful when in fact you're a spammer relying on anonymous posting to try and make yourself look good. And, what's worse, you think that people can't tell. You won't even sign your posts any more, just stringing along some vain misguided attempt to appear respectable. No doubt at some point you'll decide again to post "as yourself" where you once again declare victory, once again point out that I'm not proving you wrong when I'm not even trying to, and throw out the same stupid taunts and insults while trying to show "support" coming from yourself posting anonymously.
I feel bad for you, man. You've got a lot of growing up to do.
Suck my balls.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Haha! Wow, I really hit a nerve there, didn't I?
It's nice to see you come out of your anonymous shell and post as you again. I think that's a defensive mechanism, when you don't like what's happening you try to hide and play anonymous and write messages in support of yourself, that's your defensive mechanism. Too bad you can't do that offline, huh?
Seriously man, you've got a lot of growing up to do. And seriously, suck my balls.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
An Anonymous Coward calling out my name, huh? You're a funny guy, APK.
Seriously though, grow up. And, really, my balls aren't going to suck themselves.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
> Block things like CRL lookups with your proxy.
You think of OCSP. CRLs are downloaded once and then checked locally.
No, APK, it's still obvious when you post. Guess who the only person is that I've ever seen capitalize my username.
Seriosuly man, this is getting really sad for you at this point. I'm sorry you feel the need to keep on replying to everything that I post. Really, it doesn't look good. Linking to this discussion does not look good for you. You need to just drop it and move on.
And, seriously, grow up.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
(Real users like my program. It gives more speed, security, reliability & anonymity - enumerated list above doesn't)
... apk
That may be true, but your constant spamming annoys a much larger group (not that you give a shit).
Worse than your spamming is your trolling. Again, not that you give a shit. I only ever see your posts because I browse at -1 so that when I have mod points I can mod-up underrated posts. I don't need to waste my mod points on your posts because others have already "destroyed you". Sorry for borrowing your catchphrase (not that you give a shit).
Don't waste your time replying. Or waste your time, if it suits you (I don't give a shit).
Grow up APK. You're a delusional immature sociopath, and people know it. Against a man in his 50s who thinks that posting anonymous messages in support of himself is clever, there's really nothing I can say to make you realize how stupid you look. You think that "high comedy" is calling someone "queer". That is definitely high comedy for people in the range of 11-12 years old. You have illustrated time and time again that your emotional maturity level is about at that level. If your emotional maturity was even at a fraction of your intelligence then you may be able to see yourself for how ridiculous you are, but with your maturity level where it is there's not a chance. Even though I do feel bad for you, still, you need to grow the hell up and move on. You lost this battle a long time ago.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
APK, you are pathetic. Truly pathetic. Grow the hell up man, get a fucking grip on yourself. You're trolling me and several other people, all day, literally. That's how you spend your time? What the hell is wrong with you? Get a grip and fuck off with the constant trolling.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black