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Microsoft To Acquire SwiftKey Predictive Keyboard Technology Company For $250M (hothardware.com)

MojoKid writes: SwiftKey has been one of the more popular predictive keyboard offerings in the mobile space since it was first released in beta form on the Android market back in 2010. What made SwiftKey so appealing was its intelligent predictive texting technology. SwiftKey isn't a simple keyboard replacement. Rather, the software uses a combination of artificial intelligence technologies that give it the ability to learn usage patterns and predict the next word the user most likely intends to type. SwiftKey refines its predictions, learning over time by analyzing data from SMS, Facebook, and Twitter messages, then offering predictions based on the text being entered at the time. It is estimated that SwiftKey is installed on upwards of 500 million mobile devices. According to reports, Microsoft is apparently buying the UK-based company for a cool $250 Million. What Microsoft intends to do with SwiftKey is not clear just yet, but the company has been purchasing mobile apps at a good clip as of late.

118 comments

  1. The smartphone war is over by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 1

    The app market is where the smart money is now.

    (Not games though, Zynga's $180M purchase of Draw Something was insanely moronic.)

    1. Re:The smartphone war is over by gtall · · Score: 2

      The app market is too tiny to tickle MS's books. I rather think that they are buying apps to make sure they appear on MS's alleged phone in a bid for it to stay relevant in a market that is cannibalizing to some extent PCs.

    2. Re: The smartphone war is over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft already admitted to losing the smartphone war.

    3. Re:The smartphone war is over by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      The app market is where the smart money is now.

      Ironic. MS success is because Windows had more "apps" than other PC OSes.

    4. Re:The smartphone war is over by Rob+Y. · · Score: 2

      I'm surprised there's still a 'market' for SwiftKey these days. The native Google keyboard in Android does the same stuff pretty well nowadays. I'd be surprised if Apple didn't also do the same.

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    5. Re: The smartphone war is over by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      Maybe they want it for Surface tablets (and other detachables). They may have lost the phone war, but they're making a dent in the touchscreen world with these 2-in-1 laptops - and Android's hot on their tail there. The Pixel C is a proof of concept that's not viable today, but let's just say it has a more viable future as a competitor for Windows laptops than Windows Phone has as a competitor for Android and iOS...

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    6. Re:The smartphone war is over by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they're not content with grabbing all your data from Windows and now want it from Android as well? I wonder how long Swiftkey's statistics-gathering will remain opt-out?

    7. Re:The smartphone war is over by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Swiftkey is still a helluva lot better than the Google native one. And every time I use Apple's keyboard I feel like I've stepped back into the past.

      Swiftkey is a pretty good product. Sad to see it in the hands of Redmond.

  2. goin' Mobile by turkeydance · · Score: 0

    Watch the police and the tax man miss me

    1. Re:goin' Mobile by c0d3g33k · · Score: 0

      Who are you? I really wanna know.

  3. Abandon ship by LichtSpektren · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So what's everybody's favorite alternative, since SwiftKey is owned by a company that is nowadays renowned for its spyware and keylogging?

    1. Re:Abandon ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So what's everybody's favorite alternative, since SwiftKey is owned by a company that is nowadays renowned for its spyware and keylogging?

      My favourite is my new BlackBerry Classic that actually has a keyboard. Please enjoy the incoming BlackBerry hate below.

    2. Re:Abandon ship by Junta · · Score: 1

      After long lamenting the death of physical keyboards, gesture typing (tracing the words) made me finally decide there was something better *for mobile**. Tiny physical keyboards were better than touchscreens, but still terrible. Tracing the words is terrible and error prone, but better than tiny keyboard (even really good ones like Blackberry).

      Now get up to the scale where my fingers can actually fit on a keyboard, physical keyboard wins hands down for speed and accuracy.

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    3. Re:Abandon ship by LichtSpektren · · Score: 1

      So what's everybody's favorite alternative, since SwiftKey is owned by a company that is nowadays renowned for its spyware and keylogging?

      My favourite is my new BlackBerry Classic that actually has a keyboard. Please enjoy the incoming BlackBerry hate below.

      I have nothing against physical keyboards. But do you have any reason to believe that BlackBerry Ltd isn't keylogging you (after all, they proudly backdoor their products to cooperate with governments)?

    4. Re:Abandon ship by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

      Man, as much as I hate Blackberry, the physical keyboard is one thing I wish other phones would do again.

    5. Re:Abandon ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're just a Blackberry Classic fanboy, whose opinions can thus be safely disregarded. My Blackberry Passport is clearly the superior choice.

    6. Re:Abandon ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what's everybody's favorite alternative, since SwiftKey is owned by a company that is nowadays renowned for its spyware and keylogging?

      My favourite is my new BlackBerry Classic that actually has a keyboard. Please enjoy the incoming BlackBerry hate below.

      I have nothing against physical keyboards. But do you have any reason to believe that BlackBerry Ltd isn't keylogging you (after all, they proudly backdoor their products to cooperate with governments)?

      First of all, no mobile is safe. You may as well not carry one at all. Blackberry provided access to what they could, they're BBM chat as far as I'm aware, they can't access BES stuff or encrypted phone data because they don't have the keys. Of course they could be lying, just like Apple.
      There's another entire OS running on your phone, don't trust any phone period. That said, I get my work done the quickest on my blackberry.(i also own a nexus 5)

    7. Re:Abandon ship by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Informative

      gesture typing (tracing the words) made me finally decide there was something better *for mobile*

      I find I can "type" almost as fast with the Google keyboard by tracing my finger over letters as I can on a keyboard.

      It's actually my preferred form of mobile input.

      Now get up to the scale where my fingers can actually fit on a keyboard, physical keyboard wins hands down for speed and accuracy.

      Bluetooth keyboards. They're easy enough to find.

      If you're doing enough typing on your mobile device that you need to type faster, get an actual keyboard.

      I've got a case for my Nexus 7 I paid like $30-$40 at Wal Mart (been a while, can't remember how much). It's got a Bluetooth keyboard in it, which you can sync with pretty much anything. I've actually got it paired with a couple of different things because they'll never be in use at the same time.

      If you need a physical keyboard, they're cheap enough that you can solve that problem ... apparently Logitech makes a unit you can get for $30 if you look around.

      This is a solved problem, and has been for some number of years. A kickstand case to prop it up, and a Bluetooth keyboard turns any tablet into a "convertible" where you can type at properly.

      You could do this long before companies started attaching keyboards to tablets. And you can do it a hell of a lot cheaper.

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    8. Re:Abandon ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're just a Blackberry Classic fanboy, whose opinions can thus be safely disregarded. My Blackberry Passport is clearly the superior choice.

      The new BlackBerry OS is awesome, it's so much easier to navigate and organize files and send things than my android. It's more like using a computer.

    9. Re:Abandon ship by johanw · · Score: 1

      I hate predictive keyboards because I type in more than one language and they always mix those up. I use Hacker's Keyboard, which has some nice extra keys present on PC keyboards when you use remote access tools.

    10. Re:Abandon ship by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1
    11. Re:Abandon ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Swype. On my G3 I have both Swype and Swiftkey.
      I generally use Swiftkey, but if Microsoft kills it on Android, Swype will do the affair just fine.

    12. Re:Abandon ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you hate BlackBerry? What did they do to you?

    13. Re:Abandon ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yup. Sadly, this means the end of the usefulness of Swiftkey. At least its founders made some money from the sale, but it is a loss for the rest of us. Ten million bugs and 50 different spy service connections will be introduced tomorrow.

    14. Re:Abandon ship by Junta · · Score: 1

      Yes, just I don't want to bother always making sure I have a physical keyboard, just in case. If I'm carrying around a big keyboard, I might as well have a full fledged device and not a small tablet. Now I wouldn't mind a detachable tablet (a la surface pro, thinkpad x1 tablet), but I'd rather not get a big keyboard accessory for a handset or a small tablet, settling for a small screen even though I'm paying the price in mobility with a comfortable keyboard anyway.

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    15. Re:Abandon ship by Aaden42 · · Score: 2

      I've tried (and tried (and tried...)) to like NinType. Main differentiating point is that it allows you to use gesture based typing with two fingers. So you can hold the phone in two hands and use two thumbs to type. Less stretching to reach the opposite side (especially on phablets) when you can just finish a word with your other thumb.

      I've never quite been able to get comfortable with it, and honestly it has an interface only a Gentoo user (or nuclear control room tech) could love. Soooo many buttons...

      Maybe time for another try...

    16. Re:Abandon ship by Junta · · Score: 1

      Interesting looking concept, though I'm skeptical after trying a number of similarly exotic things making same promises. Also, it seems after a year of 'orders' (not preorders) they've managed not to ship a single unit...

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      XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
    17. Re:Abandon ship by Aaden42 · · Score: 1

      That's a joke, right? Tell me that's a joke... Ordered mine on April 15, 2015. Still nadda... Debating if their vapor will ever coalesce or if I have any chance getting a chargeback considering they hit my card & missed their more-than-thirty-days-later ship date.

    18. Re:Abandon ship by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      My Bluetooth keyboard has the same footprint as the case for my Nexus 7, barely weighs anything, charges from USB, lasts for hours, and disconnects from the case because it's only held on with 4 magnets. It weighs less than the tablet.

      You can even get ones which fold to the size of a phone.

      The iClever Portable Foldable Bluetooth Keyboard measures 10 by 3.5 by 0.3 inches when open. When closed, it measures by 5.75 by 3.5 by 0.75 inches. It weighs 6.24 ounces, making it one of the most compact and lightweight keyboards we've tested.

      That review is from December.

      You don't need to carry around a big keyboard, and for almost any tablet you can get a case which holds the tablet and houses a keyboard in not much more space than the tablet. Which means the detachable tablet can be yours for the price of an easily gotten accessory.

      Buy one, don't buy one ... it's up to you. But this is a problem people have been actively solving for years now.

      You just might find there's actually a product which does what you want it to, without costing an arm and a leg, and without being a big bulky thing to carry around.

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    19. Re:Abandon ship by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Well I'm not interested in buying one so I've only heard about it, after seeing all these videos with what looks like functional units I thought it was already shipping.

    20. Re:Abandon ship by Junta · · Score: 1

      Well, I should be extra clear, if I find myself wanting for a full fledged keyboard, I personally find myself wanting for a bigger screen. A 7" screen isn't that useful for the sorts of things that have me wanting a real keyboard. 12" will do in a pinch, but below that and it's just not enough work area for me. Things I can do on 8" or smaller display I don't really see a need for a big keyboard so much.

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    21. Re:Abandon ship by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Sure ... my desktop is two 23" monitors ... my latop is a 15.5" screen ... and when I go on vacation I only bring my wee little tablet, because I have no intention of working on it, but with the Bluetooth keyboard if, in a pinch, I need to do something more it's better than a plain tablet.

      At a 7" screen, it's for finding restaurants, getting driving directions, or other things which aren't going to need heavy typing.

      I can't imagine trying to do work on a tablet of that size, at least not if I had other choices. But a few times, in a pinch a VPN client, an RDP tool, and the keyboard have saved my some problems. As a "Plan C", it can be useful to keep handy.

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    22. Re:Abandon ship by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "Yes, just I don't want to bother always making sure I have a physical keyboard, just in case."

      Then get a keyboard case for your tablet. Some tablets come with one.

    23. Re:Abandon ship by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      So what's everybody's favorite alternative, since SwiftKey is owned by a company that is nowadays renowned for its spyware and keylogging?

      I've been a fan of Swype since the WinMo 6.5 days; stuck with it ever since. It's owned by Nuance now, the folks behind Dragon NaturallySpeaking and who provide some of the underlying tech behind Siri.

      If you're a fan of SwiftKey, and want to keep it, and you have a rooted phone, you can use DroidWall or Xprivacy to deny it network access. It obviously won't pull language updates (and you won't be able to dictate with it), but your data stays on your phone - it's what I do for Swype.

    24. Re:Abandon ship by p51d007 · · Score: 1

      You can always download the apk from the mirror and keep it, turn off permissions so it won't update. http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/s...

    25. Re:Abandon ship by ichthus · · Score: 1

      So what's everybody's favorite alternative, since SwiftKey is owned by a company that is nowadays renowned for its spyware and keylogging?

      The Google keyboard (comes with google apps) now does swype-type input.

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    26. Re: Abandon ship by corychristison · · Score: 1

      On Android, I use "Thumb Keyboard". Mostly because it was the first keyboard I tried that allowed me to customize pretty much everything in both landscape or portrait, also has directional keys which is really handy when editing files in nano over ssh in ConnectBot.

    27. Re:Abandon ship by degantyll · · Score: 1

      It will start bloating and requiring bigger and faster phones to just barely run. It will also be integrated with all MS services and you'll require a Microsoft account to use it.

    28. Re:Abandon ship by WankerWeasel · · Score: 1

      If you're concerned about keylogging, using SwiftKey isn't a great choice even before it was M$ owned. Check out all they capture about you when using the keyboard. https://swiftkey.com/en/privac...

    29. Re:Abandon ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What exactly do you think swiftkey was doing with everything you typed? Being altruistic and trustworthy?

      Hold on while I laugh so hard it brings me to tears.

    30. Re:Abandon ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what's everybody's favorite alternative, since SwiftKey is owned by a company that is nowadays renowned for its spyware and keylogging?

      The Google keyboard (comes with google apps) now does swype-type input.

      Oh, the ironing.

    31. Re:Abandon ship by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Having read your comments to here... I don't think you're entirely alone. I've bought tablets. I've bought a bunch of them - hoping each one will be better than the last. So far? No dice. (We can say that about Slashdot now - No Dice!)

      I don't mind my phone but I don't do much on it. I read, email, text, and make phone calls. Anything else? I tether. I prefer a slide-out keyboard but that's not always the option I want to take in regards to the rest of the hardware - but I do prefer it and will opt for it if it is a realistic option.

      I prefer a desktop. Something big and with a giant keyboard. I can't lug that with me so I often have a laptop with me. I'm using a rather nice laptop right now - it's full sized because that's what I prefer. I *like* having two drives in my laptop and I like the weight just fine. It's not really a laptop, I don't use it on my lap.

      Then, there's the tablet... If I'm going to be mobile and not have my laptop - I'll just use my phone. The added screen does nothing for me. Adding an external keyboard just reduces its mobility and that's why I'd be using it in the first place. So, I just can't find it in my heart to like tablets and that's not for lack of trying. In fact, I'll be trying again soon - I hope.

      If we get Lubuntu running on a Surface Pro then I'll get one of those. I have no interest in it with Windows on it. If I'm going to go with something that's not going to have the portability that I'd prefer, I might as well get a good bit of hardware. I'll probably use it as a consumption device, fairly rarely, and just use it in place of places where I'd use a laptop now. I'm willing to give it a shot and it will be okay if it turns out that I don't like it either. I'm quite certain that someone will accept it as a hand-me-down, just like I've managed to rid myself of various tablets over the past few years.

      I did not mind the Motion tablets from a long time ago. Even Acer had a nice one. The one I had was convertible, from Motion themselves, and ran XP on it. It got a whole lot of use, especially on-site at customers, and was a good bit of kit. So far, and I only owned one of the Motions, that has been the only one that I've really liked. I forget the model number but it's still owned and was still working the last time I had it out. It's in my basement and I come across it every couple of years and play with it. Hmm... I bet it'd run a Linux distro fairly well - I'm sure someone's figured the hardware out by now.

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    32. Re:Abandon ship by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      It's got a Bluetooth keyboard in it, which you can sync with pretty much anything. I've actually got it paired with a couple of different things because they'll never be in use at the same time.

      You're making a good point. I have a bluetooth keyboard and many Android devices (including an Android TV), but unfortunately, I find I bought the wrong bluetooth keyboard for them.

      I should have bought one of the bluetooth keyboard that comes with a switch on the side. This way, you can set it to device 1, device 2, device 3, by pushing the mechanical slider around. As it stands, my current cheaper bluetooth keyboard can not even remember the pairing of more than one device at a time, so I am forced to reset the pairing every time I switch to a different device.

    33. Re:Abandon ship by Junta · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's an interesting thing too. I am interested in my next system having a detachable keyboard that still works when pulled (e.g. the x1 tablet claims it will do this). For one, I want to be able to tote just the screen around if I feel like it, but also so I can position the keyboard independently of the screen to use. I hate how on a laptop that my screen is so low even if I have room to put the monitor higher. I could use an external keyboard but the screen still has this area in front of it (unless like a yoga and can fold back) and then it's also two things to carry instead of 'one'.

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    34. Re:Abandon ship by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Now get up to the scale where my fingers can actually fit on a keyboard, physical keyboard wins hands down for speed and accuracy.

      Bluetooth keyboards. They're easy enough to find.

      I use one of these Bluetooth keyboards. It's nice to type on, but has got me some strange looks on the bus.

    35. Re:Abandon ship by allo · · Score: 1

      That's what swiftkey is great in. Two dictionaries, two layouts (switch by swiping the space key) and correct completion for both. Composite words are still a problem, as most keyboards assume a space between combined words, like the english language uses it.

  4. Data? by ohnocitizen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does SwiftKey phone home what users are typing? $250 million seems a lot for an input method, more reasonable for a large set of data for them to analyze.

    1. Re:Data? by Kkloe · · Score: 1

      yes, but you can turn it off, but as it comes on by default I guess few people turn it off
      20 bucks ms gona take out the option to turn it off by claiming that not so many turn it off so the function is not needed

      https://support.swiftkey.com/h...

    2. Re:Data? by xeoron · · Score: 2

      They, also, license their tech to companies and provide a SDK for developers to include their prediction engine in products. BB10 even uses Switfkey tech in it.

    3. Re:Data? by _merlin · · Score: 2

      It doesn't phone home if you don't sign in to a Google account on your phone. Annoyingly it doesn't learn words if you don't allow it to phone home. Samsung replaced their internally developed predictive keyboard with one powered by SwiftKey. The net result for me was that it's more sluggish and doesn't learn words any more, since I don't have a Google account and wouldn't sign in to one even if I did.

    4. Re:Data? by kmg90 · · Score: 1

      Samsung's Keyboard is powered by SwiftKey...

    5. Re:Data? by WankerWeasel · · Score: 1

      Sure does. Their privacy policy explains a bit about how they send what you type to the cloud and analyze everything. https://swiftkey.com/en/privac...

    6. Re:Data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are dead wrong. Read the policy again.

      The app can (optionally!) connect to third-party accounts to "learn". All it's doing is scraping words you typically use to populate it's internal dictionary. The app doesn't have any kind of cloud processing at all.

    7. Re:Data? by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      Does SwiftKey phone home what users are typing? $250 million seems a lot for an input method, more reasonable for a large set of data for them to analyze.

      Actually, it does way more than that.

      It syncs between your different devices. And you give it access to your gmail (if you want) so it can mine data you inputed years ago, which is weird they didn't mention the gmail part. I have far more data on my gmail account than anything on Twitter, SMS, or Facebook.

      Personally, I sync my gmail with it, plus everything else, but I don't mind. That app is super intrusive, yes, but it's also why it is so good. It knows what I am going to type before I type it and it's the only app I know that allows you to mix different languages when writing.

      It kind of sucks that Microsoft bought it. Google is the really one that should have bought it instead.

  5. SwiftKey is great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the first app I install when setting up a device. I hope Microsoft doesn't ruin it.

    1. Re:SwiftKey is great by ichthus · · Score: 1

      My suspicion is that they bought Swiftkey for the IP -- so they can license or sue.

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  6. First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by clonehappy · · Score: 0

    Microsoft really wants everyone's keystrokes, don't they? What other rationale is there to spend even $1 on a company that develops and maintains a product only to give it away to its customers free of charge? If decide to ever go back to Android, it'll be stock keyboards for me from here on out!

    1. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      has it ever occurred to you why android phones are all twenty cores and 8GB of RAM and still freeze all the time and the battery drops like your credit card available balance in a casino?

    2. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by TwentyCharsIsNotEnou · · Score: 2

      They could log keystrokes without buying SwiftKey.

      Maybe they just want to add a great keyboard to their windows phones, without allowing 3rd party keyboard support.

    3. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by halivar · · Score: 1, Informative

      Microsoft really wants everyone's keystrokes, don't they?

      This has been debunked. There is no keylogger. If you have a packet capture that says otherwise, feel free to correct everyone that bothered to look into it.

      What other rationale is there to spend even $1 on a company that develops and maintains a product only to give it away to its customers free of charge?

      Intellectual property.

    4. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I am uninstalling swiftkey as we speak. Glad I always had it set not to upload what was typed.

    5. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This has been debunked. There is no keylogger. If you have a packet capture that says otherwise, feel free to correct everyone that bothered to look into it.

      Purely to play Devil's advocate, but why would a keylogger show in a packet capture?

      Microsoft sends home enough payloads of data that, if one was designing a super secret key logging mechanism, you'd just save up the data and send it with that stuff.

      Sending packets with every keystroke would be wasteful and obvious.

      Without seeing every data payload of what MS is including in their telemetry and other crap they've pushed into the OS, and accounting for all of it, I fail to see how you can make that conclusion.

      If there's chunks of binary data MS won't tell you what it is, you have no way of knowing what's in it.

      I have no idea what MS does and doesn't send, because I've never looked into it ... but hiding a keylogger from packet sniffing when you already call home?

      That's not exactly rocket science. In fact, it's the kind of obvious solution when you're already sending other data.

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    6. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've heard that's the price you've to pay for being able to run anywhere but writing just once.

    7. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, now we can have predictive key logging. Microsoft will know what you are going to type before you type it.

      Imagine how much money they can make off that by buying things before you press the buy button and then selling it to you at a markup - all the stock brokers already do that.

    8. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Then please tell me what the hell these addresses do, which I blocked in my router:
      134.170.30.202
      137.116.81.24
      204.79.197.200
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      65.39.117.230
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      or these ones which I blocked in my hosts file:
      127.0.0.1 dns.msftncsi.com
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      127.0.0.1 watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
      127.0.0.1 watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
      127.0.0.1 win8.ipv6.microsoft.com
      127.0.0.1 go.microsoft.com
      127.0.0.1 windows.policies.live.net

      And I found all these myself, with tcpdump.

    9. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by clonehappy · · Score: 0

      This has been debunked.

      Ah, the drive-by "debunker". A poster whose first sentence is authoritative (always uses the word "debunked") and will put an end to all the rabble and their conspiracy theories.

      There is no keylogger.

      These are not the droids you're looking for, huh? Not only did you authoritatively state my conspiracy theory was debunked without any link or reference, you also refute the subject without any references. This tells me that the statement is usually pretty bunked!

      If you have a packet capture that says otherwise, feel free to correct everyone that bothered to look into it.

      Of course! Unless I can decipher the mounds of binary uploads Windows 10 provides to MS and show where the data is uploaded, I'm a liar. Then why hasn't PCWorld been sued for libel?

      Intellectual property.

      Of a keyboard. Yeah, ok.

    10. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like an iPhone fanboy who has never actually used an Android.

      I liked my Galaxy S3 so much that I bought an S5 before the S3 had even died. I wanted a real Android that supports SD cards and replaceable batteries, not an iPhone-clone like the Galaxy S6.

    11. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by gnupun · · Score: 1

      They could log keystrokes without buying SwiftKey.

      How? They need to control a dominant mobile keyboard for that. SwiftKey has decent market share in Android, but Microsoft, prior to this purchase, has no dominating keyboard.

    12. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      or these ones which I blocked in my hosts file...

      Hope you don't mean the Windows's Hosts file. Wasn't it already found that Windows can ignore the Hosts file if it wants to for certain addresses?
      That's just a case of the fox guarding the hen house.

    13. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by kmg90 · · Score: 1

      Notice the first sentence... Unless Windows 10 can now bypass router blocks (at the IP level)

    14. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by WankerWeasel · · Score: 1
      By default, SwiftKey sends everything you type to their cloud service to analyze. https://swiftkey.com/en/privac...

      The SwiftKey personalization service, which is a feature of SwiftKey Cloud, accesses your recent content from online services that you specify, such as Gmail, Facebook and Twitter. It uses this content to build a personalized language model on our servers, which is then transferred to your device. This is an optimized view of the words and phrases that you use most often, and reflects your unique writing style. Your use of our personalization service means we may store and use data provided by you to develop and improve our Products. You have the right to have this data destroyed, as outlined below.

    15. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is in reference to SwiftKey users, many of which are on Android. Please show me the payloads of data Microsoft is sending from my Android phone. If they add a keylogger it will be visible.

    16. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is English your second language? If so, you are forgiven. If not, you're a fucking moron.

      What you quoted is an *optional* feature that helps you "teach" Swiftkey about the words and phrases that you use. By letting Swiftkey read your Facebook posts, it updates its local database with phrases that you used on Facebook.

      That has absolutely nothing to do with "sending everything you type to the cloud."

      Idiots, everywhere I turn, nothing but idiots.

    17. Re:First the Windows 10 Keyloggers, now this? by JamesKeane7745 · · Score: 1

      Arghhh.... I can feel apk's footsteps coming down the hall...

  7. They all do by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's how they make predictive typing work.

    Half of me is delighted that W10 could actually get a useful keyboard. Half of me thinks they will utterly fumble the transition and, like most things MS tries to bolt on, it will suck horribly but will become the standard (And only) keyboard on W10 touch.

    All of me knows that they will be using the data to improve their marketing side of the business. I'd worry about that, but I sold my soul (or at least all of my worldly data) to Google a decade ago, and it's always easier the second time.

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    1. Re:They all do by pr0fessor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I imagine they are getting more than just a predictive keyboard there are probably licensable patents as well services they can sell to more than just windows users.

      If I where running Microsoft with the way windows mobile is perceived now I would be looking to get as many services, apps, and patents as possible that could be licensed in every other mobile OS and mobiles apps.

    2. Re:They all do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they don't.

      Swiftkey (before M$ bought it) works fine without a network connection. Its predictions are common English phrases that come from a database, and your own phrase history that comes from your typing history. Swiftkey never shows odd, Google-like predictions that look like they come from ignorant 20-somethings' tomfoolery.

    3. Re:They all do by chihowa · · Score: 1

      It's how they make predictive typing work.

      There's more than enough data and processing power on a phone do accomplish that without phoning home. The reason they phone home to to monetize your data, one way or another.

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    4. Re:They all do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is NOT how switfkey's predictive typing works. It's dictionary based and not that much more complicated then your typical word-processor's autocorrect.

    5. Re:They all do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The press release from Microsoft mentioned the "synergy" with their own new keyboard for Windows Phone, which when you watch the videos seems very similar (on the surface, identical) to what SwiftKey and Swype have been doing for years now. It made me wonder if this is actually about patents, and avoiding being sued. They fend off Swiftkey's pending lawsuits by buying them, and that gives them enough of a patent arsenal in the space to keep Swype and others at bay.

  8. What Microsoft intends to do with SwiftKey ... by c0d3g33k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... is not clear just yet

    Based on recent attempts to push telemetry via updates and the monitoring built in to Windows 10, using SwiftKey as a key logger to gather information on mobile users seems possible.

    1. Re:What Microsoft intends to do with SwiftKey ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering they control the default keyboard and operating system, why would they need to purchase a third party company just to install a keylogger.

      Or are you talking about them doing it on android devices?

    2. Re:What Microsoft intends to do with SwiftKey ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering they control the default keyboard and operating system, why would they need to purchase a third party company just to install a keylogger.

      Or are you talking about them doing it on android devices?

      The little android icon in the title banner and the mention of "Android Market" in the summary and my mention of "mobile users" are your clues as to what I was thinking. :-)

  9. Is it the end of swiftkey? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope they didn't buy it just to kill it for android. Like they did with skype that is becoming more broken on linux every month.

    captcha: halved (like Nokia maybe?)

  10. First POST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll save you all some time. IT'S A TRAP! Embrace, extend, extinguish! MS Anti-Trust!!!

  11. What they will do by monkeyxpress · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What Microsoft intends to do with SwiftKey is not clear just yet

    Ruin it, then stuff it full of Windows/Office money in the vain hope that this will hide their incompetence at diversifying.

  12. Go figure by c · · Score: 3, Informative

    Microsoft learned a long time ago that buying stuff that people already like is far easier than creating stuff that people like.

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    Log in or piss off.
    1. Re:Go figure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they should be like Google which does wonderful things like creating YouTube.

    2. Re:Go figure by Parker+Lewis · · Score: 1

      That would be cool if they don't kill the new acquired company, product and philosophy in few years.

    3. Re:Go figure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and Android, and Maps.

    4. Re:Go figure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair they bought Android based on the merits of the system, not because it was popular (there were exactly zero existing Android users).

      The number of users of mapping and navigation software was non-zero but close enough to it. It certainly wasn't a popular enough for Apple or Microsoft to even consider.

  13. Obligatory question by Jethro · · Score: 1

    So, what's a good alternative to Swiftkey?

    Actually, I'm going to wait and see what happens. I use Swiftkey on my tablets (swype on my phones), and I'm not going to knee-jerk abandon it.

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    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is kinky.
    1. Re:Obligatory question by Frederic54 · · Score: 1

      I am using the Android keyboard on my Nexus7 and it has no flaw... why use a 3rd party keyboard?

      --
      "Science will win because it works." - Stephen Hawking
    2. Re:Obligatory question by Jethro · · Score: 1

      Been using them for so long, at this point going to the built-in Android keyboard would be switching.

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      In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is kinky.
    3. Re:Obligatory question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it doesn't just remember your previous phrases, it predicts them based on common grammar.

      For example, I started typing "Because it d" and it suggests "does doesn't didn't".

      Then I selected "doesn't" and it suggests "work matter have".

      It predicts so well that I often "type" 90% of a sentence just by selecting one of the suggested words.

  14. Patents? by Crowd+Computing · · Score: 2

    Maybe Microsoft is acquiring more weapons for its mobile patents war chest. Or defense, given the madness of the IP landscape that ensures only the big boys can innovate.

  15. Windows Phone Keyboard by Frankie70 · · Score: 1

    I find the Windows Phone's default swipe keyboard to be the best I have used. I find it marginally better than both HTC's swipe keyboard and also Google's keyboard.

    1. Re:Windows Phone Keyboard by locopuyo · · Score: 1

      Swiping is better than non-predictive touch screen typing, but it is extremely inefficient when you can accurately predict the entire next word and simply tap once to type it. By the time you finish swiping one word you could have typed an entire sentence with SwiftKey. SwiftKey even supports swiping if you still want to do it.

    2. Re:Windows Phone Keyboard by Strudelkugel · · Score: 1

      I find the Windows Phone's default swipe keyboard to be the best I have used. I find it marginally better than both HTC's swipe keyboard and also Google's keyboard.

      Totally agree. I don't understand why they don't add the feature to the Surface devices, too. I use the full keyboard in a conventional fashion, but I have become so used to swiping short notes that I find it to be faster than typing.

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    3. Re:Windows Phone Keyboard by occasional_dabbler · · Score: 1

      This. It took nearly to the end of the page to find someone who actually uses a Windows Phone, for which the swipe keyboard is one of the best features. It seem pretty obvious to me that for chump change MS have bought a nice bit of IP that will help them improve their keyboard more cheaply than they could develop it themselves.

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      "Our opponent is an alien starship packed with atomic bombs," I said. "we have a protractor"
    4. Re:Windows Phone Keyboard by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

      Except ever since they went "free" swiftkey's performance has been absolute shit. It lags even my S5 so badly that it would take almost a minute just for the screen to respond to the power button and turn off. I finally got sick of waiting 30s-several minutes just to type something or close a messenger bubble that I switched to the stock keyboard.

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    5. Re:Windows Phone Keyboard by Nunya666 · · Score: 1

      Then your S5 is on the fritz. Both my wife and I have an S5, and Swiftkey has zero lag. I even have over 100 apps/games installed, and Swiftkey still does not lag.

    6. Re:Windows Phone Keyboard by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

      I've been considering for a while that Samsung's having some kind of shitty QA problem where some Galaxy phones work great and some constantly suffer from memory leaks, lag, and the like.

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      A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
  16. Love, Grandmaster Flash by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 4, Funny

    Predictive keyboard? Sounds like autocorrect to me. And I hate those things. They make too many assumptions. I mean, how does it know I wasn't going to write about my "gigantic throbbing coconspirator"?

    1. Re:Love, Grandmaster Flash by Quirkz · · Score: 2

      My brother and I like to trade spoonerisms. Spelling is often intentionally a little creative. I think I spend more time retyping the thing I put in there and it "fixed" for me than it saves in fixing things I mistype.

    2. Re:Love, Grandmaster Flash by sunderland56 · · Score: 2

      No, it's *worse* than autocorrect. If you look at twitter, Facebook, or any social media, you'll find that people have completely horrible spelling and grammar. Swiftkey will try to make your posts look just like theirs.

      I'm sure that after replying to their boss with a "Like totally dude, sounds rad" text message, most people will turn this feature off.

    3. Re:Love, Grandmaster Flash by Parker+Lewis · · Score: 1

      Slide + prediction is the greatest thing about these keyboards. You can disable autocorrection.

    4. Re:Love, Grandmaster Flash by maestroX · · Score: 1

      They make too many assumptions. I mean, how does it know I wasn't going to write about my "gigantic throbbing coconspirator"?

      Camera facing downwards?

      (never underestimate Clippy-ji)

    5. Re:Love, Grandmaster Flash by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Predictive keyboard? Sounds like autocorrect to me. And I hate those things. They make too many assumptions. I mean, how does it know I wasn't going to write about my "gigantic throbbing coconspirator"?

      When I try and type "plates" into my Nokia dumbphone, the T9 predictive text input assumes I want to say "slaves" first. Which can lead to some interesting sentences when talking about shopping.

  17. Microsoft's enhancements... by the_skywise · · Score: 1

    "Ok let's try this out, M, swipe I, swipe C"
    [clippy appeaers] "Say, it seems like you're trying to type Microsoft, should I just add it to the text box for you?"
    "Go away you little..."
    "Say, are you trying to type Fuschia? Let me add that for you..."

  18. Clearly, by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    Microsoft is trying to 'innovate' another revolution it missed.

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    Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
  19. Oh, shit. There goes my favorite app. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    M$ is as bad as Oracle.

    Everything they buy/touch goes to shit.

  20. Research at large scales by radarskiy · · Score: 1

    At a certain size, you can lo longer directly spend research money fast enough on just your own work. The only way get enough research results is to buy up results where you find them.

  21. SwiftKey never worked for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would autocorrect and fail to detect what I typed. I guess if my friends had English names and I wasn't frequently discussing programming languages then maybe it would work better. (even "printf" fails to come up consistently)

  22. Microsoft: the place where technology goes to die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft has bought yet another company. The people who work for the company are smarter than Microsoft, and make great cool technology, but they also want to be rich. So they sell their great cool technology and all the intellectual property that surrounds it to Microsoft, where that same cool technology goes and sits on a shelf and dies. Some marketing bunny at M$ sees the tech. and says to themself "Wowzers! Thet kewel technoligie! We needz to git summa thet!" And so M$ buys company. Then someone else at M$ says "wee kneed to intemagrate thet inta are uther stuf", and assigns a drone team to put the square peg in the round hole. And the rollout date is determined by a meeting between marketing and management. First they get an assessment from the drone team "how long da ya thynk itll takeya", then they cut that amount of time in half. If there is a big sales opportunity sooner than that (like Christmas) then they go for the shorter time. Then they tell the drone team "makit sew. Gidder dun. Waddever!" Then the new technology is rolled out with the drivers borken and 3/4 of the functionality lost. Team M$ then declares: "Its not just good, its good enough!" The technology then dies on a shelf somewhere.

  23. Re:They all do not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least on iOS, Swype works acceptably well even with out 'full access' (i.e. without access to network communications).

    Just because you already made a deal with Mr.Scratch don't try to convince the rest of us to do so.

  24. The Zen of Microsoft by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    If an app has learned enough about your working vocabulary and writing style to predict what you're going to type next, I bet it can figure out where you're doing the typing, no matter how anonymous you think you are.

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    I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
  25. Well, censored by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    If the deal does go thru, I will be uninstalling Swiftkey.

    Problem is, I doubt the stock GOOGLE keyboard is an exemplar of anonymity and privacy either.