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Scientists To Open Mass-Cloning Factory in China This Year To Clone Cows, Pets, Humans (express.co.uk)
An anonymous reader writes: Scientists in China are planning to open a mass-cloning factory by the end of the year. The ambitious and futuristic facility hopes to be mass-producing one million cows every 12 months by 2020. Not only will it clone cattle, but the factory, which will be located in the northern Chinese port of Tianjin, will also cater to more specific needs by genetically engineering police dogs and thoroughbred race horses. It is part of a $21m plan which is backed by the Boyalife group in collaboration with South Korean company Sooam Biotech Research Foundation.
Or are we taking a completely natural world and ruining it with artificial selection?
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And the first thing his clone did was scream at us about how inelegant the process was, and he browbeat several members of the team so badly they jumped off the roof.
April fools was 4 days ago guys...
This is gonna end well...
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I seen the movie
You know, that weird company run by the even weirder Raelians?
I guess these clones will all look the same?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Now where are they keeping the real trump?
> factory to clone...humans
Because if there's one thing the Chinese are bad at, it's producing more humans.
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No worries, if it's anything like their ordinary QA and product quality.
"Not only will it clone cattle, but the factory, which will be located in the northern Chinese port of Tianjin, will also cater to more specific needs by genetically engineering police dogs and thoroughbred race horses."
It gets a brief mention in the title and then the body focuses on cows, dogs, and horses rather than the part about cloning humans???
Actually checking TFA, it says:
"There are currently no plans in the pipeline to clone and produce humans in a bid to eradicate disease, but Xiaochun has said that this can change if people become more open to the idea of it."
So it sounds like the cloning humans is just a "hey, we could do this at some point" thing, and not part of the initial plan of operation?
In any case, i'm not sure why this is a good solution to a demand for more meat. In the long run (and possibly even the short run) doing a little more research and building a cultured meat factory would probably be a lot more cost effective than cloning the entire cow.
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I can't see the point in cloning cows. Artificial insemination works well enough, is less expensive, and they will need a cow to serve as the mother anyway.
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There are currently no plans in the pipeline to clone and produce humans in a bid to eradicate disease, but Xiaochun has said that this can change if people become more open to the idea of it.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
The title says they are doing this to clone humans, even though the article itself says they won't.
"There are currently no plans in the pipeline to clone and produce humans in a bid to eradicate disease, but Xiaochun has said that this can change if people become more open to the idea of it."
How do the bloodlines advance though. I can see why we would want more high-end racehorses, but I thought the real point was to breed a better horse, not level the paying field through some kind of horse formula-1 uniformity.
Nullius in verba
Lets just go ahead right now and say "NO". A country so overpopulated that they have mobile killing vans and single child policies shall not start cloning humans. As such, I'm about done with clickbait... oh I meant to say slashdot.
now we want to risk other major staples of our food supply?
Title is nothing if not a complete lie for the sake of being clickbait. The "article" itself about matches it for quality.
That's more like a US university research project. Oh, wait, multiply by five to take into account that it's done by non-US scientists and engineers.
I feel for those grieving the loss of a pet, but cloning won't bring their pet back. Cloning just creates a genetically identical (except mt-DNA) copy. Remember that individuals come with individual personalities, and even this will diverge based on individual experiences. There is no known way to clone a soul (for lack of a better term).
We need more of them in Las Vegas.
Yeah sure go ahead and call me flamebait, because the goram Chinese are just so perfect and careful with everything they do, what could possibly go wrong? In their headlong rush to beat the West at everything and become the predominant political and military power in the world, they wouldn't dream of taking any shortcuts or taking any big risks now would they? After all they're just so peaceful and benevolent, absolute advocates of human and civil rights, freedom of speech, respectful of the borders and territories of neighboring countries, and wouldn't even dream of harming so much as a single fly!
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We already do that with corn and bananas, but I'm not entirely sure... I just picked up my favorite genetic modified vegetables... Anyways, I know we already clone a lot of VEGETABLES to survive. What's the doubt in here? Do You wanna starve to death and end all the work done in science, just because a pedophile from Argentina didn't had the idea first? Guys, just remember the works of Louis Pasteur. He was a priest and played like his imaginary friend using pees. So, what's the big deal again? I bet the CEO from Facebook uses the money he makes investing on companies to apply his dirty tracker, to construct that clone machine for himself, and make an army of idiots without criativity. You guys love the awful idea of selling fresh market perspectives as startups, instead of bearing with the responsabilities of holding and developing the company, and are allowing the creation of a massive gap in the economy. When big corporations buy your ideas, they keep your clients but forget about the development of market. You're a bunch of assholes who don't know how much You worth. And this is the opinion from someone who lives in a country where everyone believes in soccer and democracy, now try to picture what You can achieve when You take the social jerk media lace off from your neck and go play outside the Plato's cave.
BTW, I wish having a clone machine and a virgin Paris Hilton every fucking day in the morning. (Not for sex, but to make money selling her, obviously, and have something to pay my breakfast, while Lucy Liu is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay gorgeous)
1) A human can live after donating a kidney, lung, pancreas, bone marrow, or liver.
2) There are a lot of diseases that slowly affect those organs. A prime example is IgA Nepropathy can take 27 years from first affecting your kidneys, till you need a transplant.
3) Imagine you discover that your 10 year old child has IgA Nepropahty and that they will need a new kidney sometime in 10-30 years. You can clone them today, ensuring a healthy kidney without any immune suppression drugs,, or wait and hope they get a donated kidney from a stranger and immune suppression drugs.
Damn right you will clone her. Hell, I would clone her even if she was 20 years old. (If she was 30, I'd tell her to raise her own child.).
Yes there should be laws preventing abuse of this technology. But don't tell the parents of a child with a deadly disease that we know how to treat her but we won't do it because of fear of abuse.
Personally, if I wanted to have kids, I'd rather get a matched set of clones. Just for the extra medical capabilities it offers.
For example, if one person gets an Immune disease, you could wipe out their current immune system and give them a new bone marrow implant from the healthy clone.
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On there other hand it does't matter if we die more often if we just resume living from our Gold Cross backup clone.
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Is a specific cow, or pet that special? And if so, why on *earth* would you think a cloned one would act the same?
And people... there are these people called "twins", or "triplets", etc, and they all turn out differently. What would you expect to get by cloning someone?
And it's a long term thing, if you're cloning your favorite movie star, or politician...
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"Not only will it clone cattle, but the factory, which will be located in the northern Chinese port of Tianjin, will also cater to more specific needs by genetically engineering police dogs and thoroughbred race horses."
So what if i wanted to clone a competitors prize cow, bull, horse, dog etc? What are the legal ramifications?
Selective breeding is analogous to using mother nature's tools, within mother nature's workshop, to guide the otherwise natural course of evolution. That's precisely why human beings have been able to do it for ages: because it relies on nothing more than mother nature.
Genetic engineering is something entirely different. Clearly, genetic engineering does NOT use mother nature's tools, but rather a toolkit which isn't found anywhere in nature. And clearly, genetic engineering does NOT work within the rules of mother nature's workshop, but rather outside of them completely. This is precisely why human beings have not been able to do this until very recently in the course of our technical evolution: because it requires much more than mother nature's toolkit and workshop.
The two procedures aren't even remotely comparable, even if they do attempt to achieve a similar goal. Note that I haven't actually spoken out against genetic engineering here. I've only laid out a common-sense argument why genetic engineering isn't comparable to selective breeding.
It has begun.
They have to perfect their techniques on critters, then they can work on creating a super army of clones. I bet 3 cats that China, and I assume 4 or 5 other countries, ARE working on human clones in a laboratory away from public eye. Its not a matter of IF, its a matter of WHEN. You didn't think they were just throwing those aborted fetuses in a trash can did you?
Begun the clone war has.
Would we get these?
What about telemeres. They shrink everytime cells divide. If you are cloning from older cells the life span of the animal won't be as long. If they start making clones of clones of clones because that cow is "prime beef" aren't they going to run into problems?
The Chinese really do copy everything don't they?
Every important enterprise includes risk. There are always a plethora of ways in which things could go wrong, with disastrous consequences. The more important the goal, the greater the risk.
That is why I dislike your rhetorical question, clearly used to suggest that they should not do this. Risk-taking is how evolution happens. China should and will build a cloning factory.
The only thing that concerns me is that they are beating us to the punch on many important issues. Capitalism is supposed to be superior...why are we lagging behind?
Another lousy headline, including the headline on TFA. Deeper in the article it says that there are no current plans to clone humans. I also love the picture in TFA, which has a caption about cloning cows but shows a line of people.
Come to think of it ...
Risk-taking is how evolution happens
Confirmed for not knowing even the first thing about 'evolution'. Maybe if you had finished the 5th grade you'd know better. On the other hand I suppose it's rather amazing that you can put words together into (seemingly) coherent sentences with such a stunted education.
Chinese companies have been buying cows and sheeps from my country in boatloads. They have a series food issue over there. Cloning might help solve it, there, and in other places.
You didn't think they were just throwing those aborted fetuses in a trash can did you?
Better red than dead
It was originally created with the view to cope with Chinaâ(TM)s increasing demand for meat
I was under the impression that cloning is more expensive than natural or artificial insemination. You still need to implant the clone and most attempts are not viable. So how is cloning more efficient for meat production?
mmmm....cloned meat!
China has been a mass human cloning factory for centuries. Just look at the population and try to spot any difference.
The flat-earthers can't touch a project when it's built in China. The new AP-1000s are going in there. This is where the Thirty Meter telescope should be built.
Good, now, can I order my clone, I may need spare parts in the near future.
Has anyone seen Temuera Morrison recently?
Go veg.
These things need to be made in the U.S.
The headline is misleading; from the article: "There are currently no plans in the pipeline to clone and produce humans in a bid to eradicate disease, but Xiaochun has said that this can change if people become more open to the idea of it." Time for a Sixth Day law.
BTW, there's a possibly more reputable article (from Dec 2015, but basically same content) here: http://phys.org/news/2015-12-c...
What could possibly go wrong with this?
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Because what China doesn't have, is nearly enough humans already.
Or are they planning to burn off a few million copies of, for example, Selena Gomez? (In which case, sign ME UP for TWO!) :-D
Can they clone one of her for me?
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Cmon people, no one but me made the connection?