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Cable Industry Threatens To Sue If FCC Tries To Bring Competition To Cable Set Top Boxes (techdirt.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Techdirt: Back in February the FCC voted on a new plan to open up the traditional cable box to competition. According to a fact sheet being circulated by the agency (pdf), under the FCC's plan you'd still pay your cable company for the exact same content, cable operators would simply have to design systems -- using standards and copy protection of their choice -- that delivered this content to third-party hardware. The FCC's goal is cheaper, better hardware and a shift away from the insular gatekeeper model the cable box has long protected. Given this would obliterate a $21 billion captive market in set top box rental fees -- and likely direct consumers to more third-party streaming services -- the cable industry has been engaged in an utterly adorable new hissy fit. And now, the industry is also threatening a lawsuit. Former FCC boss turned top cable lobbyist Michael Powell is arguing that the FCC has once again overstepped its regulatory authority: "An agency of limited jurisdiction has to act properly within that jurisdiction," Powell said, making it abundantly clear the NCTA does not believe the FCC has not done so in this case. He said that the statute empowers the FCC to create competition in navigation devices, not new services. "Every problem does not empower an FCC-directed solution. The agency is not an agency with unbridled plenary power to roam around markets and decide to go fix inconveniences everywhere they find them irrespective of the bounds of their authority."

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  1. now we know why by turkeydance · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Powell was hired

    1. Re:now we know why by Z00L00K · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And the cable industry is slowly killing itself by alienating the customers.

      They may show a profit right now, but sooner or later there will be an avalanche of customers leaving and stick to OTA transmissions or get what they want over the net on Netflix and other services.

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    2. Re:now we know why by DarkTempes · · Score: 1

      Yeah, those cable customers are going to drop their cable TV service to watch Netflix... on their cable internet connections.

      That'll really show those big bad regional cable monopolies who is boss.

      I wish slashdot had a Kappa emoticon.

    3. Re:now we know why by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I did read the summary, but not the article - I am no heretic. What scares/saddens me is that it is a 21 billion dollar market. Americans are paying 21 billion dollars, per year, on just set-top rental fees. Really?

      As for your prediction? People have been saying it for years. Laser discs were to shake up the industry as we know it. Dire warnings were given with Beta/VHS on the scene as everyone would just get their content on cassette and not watch on the air. Then it was the DVD. Then it was Netflix. Then it was Hulu+. Somewhere in there it was also piracy.

      You might finally be right. It might happen though I don't know if there's a tipping point in the near future. I don't see a mass migration on the scale where I'd call it an avalanche or anything. I'm not really sure why they don't just make it easy for people to get their cable over their existent Internet connection. I kind of expect it to go that route, just some encrypted stream that you can grab. People seem happy enough to use cable for their internet connection so they're already sort of doing that. I figure that the bandwidth is adequate for that on DSL so I'm not sure why they don't take advantage of that market as well.

      Actually, I think I did see something in my mail about getting television from my ISP. I don't actually watch much TV so I didn't look into it.

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    4. Re:now we know why by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      Yeah, those cable customers are going to drop their cable TV service to watch Netflix... on their cable internet connections.

      Obviously this is something they do not want or they would not be trying so hard to get me to add cable to my Internet. And if enough people do this, there will not be enough money in "cable boxes" to make the fight worth while. The ironic part is that Comcast (and many other cable companies) allow you to use your own hardware for Internet already and the world did not end.

    5. Re:now we know why by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying that it will happen soon, but younger people get a lot of content directly on the internet and only a few of them hooks on to the cable TV. It's currently a slow process but with fewer viewers it means that sooner or later the prices will be too high for the remaining viewers and they will drop the cable.

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    6. Re:now we know why by emaname · · Score: 1

      What concerns me more and more is the continued availability of OTA.

      We cut the cord just before 1990. Our TWC basic service had just exceeded $40/mo. Our house at that time had an antenna with a rotor on a tower so we switched over. It cost $200 for a new antenna and rotor and coax cable for the entire house. When we bought our current house, one of the first things that went in were two antennae on a tower (one for each of the two major markets available in our area). We receive just over 80 channels. Admittedly, 30 of those are either duplicates or Spanish and consequently of no benefit to us. That installation cost $800.

      So figuring $40/mo for 26 years (ie, 1990 to 2016) is $12,480. Subtract our investment of $1000 and we've saved $11,480.

      My next move is to a streaming device; probably Kodi on a RPi3.

      We do have cable internet and are still subject to TWC for that service (20Mbs @ $65/mo), but I need internet for my job so I'm stuck with that. However, we occasionally watch TV online via various free services and have access to email as a result. (Now I'm anxiously watching what the Charter takeover will do.)

      Now re my concern mentioned at the opening of this tome, it's what will happen to OTA. Knowing from experience that corporations get laws passed to capture more market share and to destroy competition (eg, the cable industry), I'm concerned they'll go after OTA and either outlaw it or impose some fee for using it.

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  2. screw cable! by hguorbray · · Score: 5, Insightful

    one of the few govt agencies that is actually trying to do consumers some good and they are overreaching?

    WTF

    I'm just glad that guy isn't in government any more -he represents the worst aspects of regulatory capture and the revolving door between government and industry.

    cable is dying anyway thanks to millenials, cord cutting and the unavailability of a la carte pricing -Good Riddance

    -I'm just sayin'

    1. Re:screw cable! by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      one of the few govt agencies that is actually trying to do consumers some good

      ..by doing what, inventing the cable card again?

      Ignorance.

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    2. Re:screw cable! by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 3, Insightful

      one of the few govt agencies that is actually trying to do consumers some good and they are overreaching?

      Remember when everyone was calling Tom Wheeler, and by extension Obama, shills that were in the pocket the of the cable industry?

    3. Re:screw cable! by phayes · · Score: 1

      What, so overly complex abortions designed by committee (to fail) like cablecard are the only possible solution to cable access in your opinion? Nothing else can exist?!? Geez, people like you really deserve to continue paying through the nose for cable.

      Comcast has already delivered access to content using Samsung "smart" tv's without any cable box, they need merely document the interfaces that they require and come up with a validation suite so that you can all drop your expensive "rental" boxes.

      I'm fortunate that where I live, I get my tv over a fiber box that is a fixed, relatively inexpensive one time fee & that my ISP published APIs to access content years ago so that I can watch "TV" on just about any device I want, from smartphones to tablets to computers.

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    4. Re:screw cable! by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2

      This time they are simply telling cable companies to ditch the cable box. How they do that is up to them. Android TV and Apple TV can easily fit the role.

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    5. Re:screw cable! by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If the FCC really cared about doing what's best for the public, they'd simply say "Cable TV is over; you are all plain common-carrier ISPs now. Spin off your content divisions into separate companies and they can become streaming services. You are no longer allowed to be both at once."

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    6. Re:screw cable! by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      Situation in the EU (at least my country) is better:

      The cable TV usually contains analog signal that you can connect to any TV and in addition digital channels transmitted using DVB-C which is supported by new TVs natively and older TVs need an external tuner (STB). Some channels are encrypted, for those you need to pay for a decryption card (looks like a SIM card) that you insert into the TV or tuner.

    7. Re:screw cable! by uncqual · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The legal question isn't if the proposal is good or bad policy, the question is if the Congress granted the FCC the power to make such a regulation.

      Consider if the EPA was to issue a regulation requiring that all employers provide sexual harassment training annually for every employee. In that case there would be no question that the regulation was not something within the EPA's charter and would (and should) be struck down by the courts even though it might be a good policy. There might even be another agency that did have the power to issue such a regulation, but that wouldn't make the EPA's regulation legal.

      If the FCC doesn't have the power to issue this regulation, the fact that it is good or bad policy is immaterial as are the motivations of the plaintiffs challenging the FCC. In a Federal courtroom, it's extremely unlikely that any question of the motivation of the plaintiff would be allowed as it would be a waste of the court's time. Such questions are no more relevant than questioning if the CEOs were left or right handed.

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    8. Re:screw cable! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Remember when everyone was calling Tom Wheeler, and by extension Obama, shills that were in the pocket the of the cable industry?

      Yes I remember at the time he was proposing an internet fast lane.

      2014 [pivot] 2015

      Not that I'm complaining.

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    9. Re:screw cable! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Too much change too suddenly hurts everyone. That would simply mean the infrastructure decays until it no longer supports dial-up rates.

      If that's necessarily true, then it only means that you'd pay a lot for the ISP part, and a relatively little bit for the cable part (if you bought it at all.)

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    10. Re:screw cable! by sanf780 · · Score: 1

      As a fellow European, I suppose things vary with country or region. My ISP has installed fiber to home, so I need some box to connect to the TV anyhow (I have no clue how this box looks like). I know that the signals through the previous coax installation included a few analog TV channels. As much as I have researched, this ISP does not sell or rent CI+ cards that I can slot into the TV. Actually, I do believe without many facts backing me up that CI+ can only be used for an OTA digital channel that broadcast football matches.
      By the way, the same ISP forces me to rent a landline, even if the combined offer includes one mobile phone. Now, that is something that needs to be abolished.

    11. Re:screw cable! by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      IPTV needs a box of course (and since I am an admin of a few networks of small ISPs, I can tell you that making different boxes cooperate would be very difficult).

      However, when someone says cable TV I think about coax cable which does not require the box.

      I have cable TV (analog signal on coax) from one company and internet (FTTH) from another.

    12. Re:screw cable! by DarkTempes · · Score: 2

      All TV is digital now in the U.S. (even broadcast OTA) in order to free up spectrum and cable TV used to be required to offer basic cable and local broadcast channels unencrypted, over the wire, via clear-QAM.

      Then in 2012 the previous FCC chairman and commissioners decided to change that rule and let cable companies encrypt everything and thus require ALL users to pay a monthly fee for a set-top box, in addition to their normal service fees.

      This also means that the clear-QAM tuner hardware in TVs, that increases the cost of TVs and that we already paid for, became useless.

      This is a bit weird because these same cable companies are providing internet service over the same cables but users can choose to rent a cable modem from their provider or buy their own cable modem from a 3rd party.

    13. Re:screw cable! by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      OTA TV is digital-only in Lithuania too. However, cable companies were providing analog signals before and continue to do so, because people like the fact that you can split the cable and connect multiple TVs to it without paying for multiple boxes (if the TVs do not support DVB-C) or decryption cards (if the channels are encrypted).

    14. Re:screw cable! by phayes · · Score: 1

      Federal intervention at the level you're asking for almost never happens. Only when the excesses on an industry become so flagrantly abusive to the general population does it happen: Standard Oil, AT&T, etc. I agree that the ISP/Content consortiums in the USA are "bad" for customers (quite literally), but not that they have delved far enough that there is anywhere near the public (and political) support necessary to make such an intervention possible.

      So, absent the radical breakup, consumers should support Tom Wheeler's whacks on Comcast et al to eliminate cable box rental fees by making content available over a well defined API subject to competition.

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    15. Re:screw cable! by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      one of the few govt agencies that is actually trying to do consumers some good

      ..by doing what, inventing the cable card again? Ignorance.

      Yet it seems to work well for cable modems. I do not rent mine from Comcast...

    16. Re:screw cable! by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      Is there really enough bandwidth for every TV in use to be streaming it's own custom hi-def video? Is there not some kind of 'broadcast over IP' protocol that would allow a single stream to service thousands of users - who would 'tune in' like they do to broadcast TV/Cable programming? If not, there should be...

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    17. Re:screw cable! by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      A cursory search suggests that an HD video stream requires about 4Mbps. (4K requires about 15Mbps.) Both of those are well within the range of cable internet speeds, even for multiple TVs (although perhaps not at some of the lowest billing tiers). The only question is whether the ISP oversubscribed their backhaul too much...

      As for "broadcast over IP," there is broadcast addressing for IPv4 and IP multicast for IPv4 and IPv6. And Bittorrent, of course! : )

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    18. Re:screw cable! by toddestan · · Score: 1

      In the US, there's no reason cable can't still be analog, but the big cable companies used the government mandated shutdown of OTA analog TV broadcasts a few years back as an excuse to tell their customers that "Oh hey, you're gonna need a cable box to watch TV now. By the way, you have to get the cable box through us and we only rent them." There was enough confusion and people didn't know better that the cable companies basically got away with it. So I can't really blame the FCC for cracking down on them. Not that I have or ever have had a cable box or cable TV, but still.

    19. Re:screw cable! by torkus · · Score: 1

      Not sure if this is sarcasm or not...

      Coax has (in general terms) fixed bandwidth to your home. Cable TV is digital and going over those lines today so there's absolutely bandwidth for those channels. Perhaps some small overhead for using IP, but the actual content data is the same.

      Oh, except they wouldn't be able to force you to pay for boxes for each TV. The switch to digital cable TV is how the cable companies got away from previous rules that didn't require a box per TV...it only took 15 years or so for that to come around and be questioned again.

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  3. Free market and other fairytales by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How well did the "free" market handle this? Not very well, did it now. Free for cable industry to have a fixed market. FCC needs to step in.

    1. Re:Free market and other fairytales by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      Corporations are big fans of competition when they're testifying to Congress that regulation isn't needed. In the real world, not so much.

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    2. Re:Free market and other fairytales by KGIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What is "free market" about the cable industry? Those words have meaning. For the low price of a few cents, you can use the device you used to send that message for something else - like learning what those words mean. No matter where you put the quotes, there's no free market involved with the cable industry. At least not in the country where this is taking place, there isn't.

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    3. Re:Free market and other fairytales by MasseKid · · Score: 2

      It was never a free market. It is a locally legislated monopoly.

  4. Cable TV is already dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Between the internet and over-the-air TV, why on Earth would I pay an extra 50+ dollars a month for more crap to watch?

    1. Re:Cable TV is already dead by Cyberpunk+Reality · · Score: 1

      Because they won't sell you internet unless you agree to also buy their crap. Or they can just charge you for the crap along with their internet, but not give it to you. Your choice.

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  5. Jurisdiction by iTrawl · · Score: 1

    Could the FCC call in a favour with the DoJ? That should work out OK regarding jurisdiction.

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  6. Not this again... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    Even if they *didn't* get sued I don't see this going anywhere. They've already tried this with CableCard, and except for TiVos and some in-TV setups there wasn't a big debut of third-party yes-you-own-it-outright equipment.

    Then, there was supposed to be an entirely software-based version of the same thing. Never even got off the planning board.

    1. Re:Not this again... by chemish · · Score: 2

      Even if they *didn't* get sued I don't see this going anywhere. They've already tried this with CableCard, and except for TiVos and some in-TV setups there wasn't a big debut of third-party yes-you-own-it-outright equipment.

      Then, there was supposed to be an entirely software-based version of the same thing. Never even got off the planning board.

      Is TiVO not a good example of people wanting it? Didn't they just get bought for 1.1 Billion? Someone must think there is something to it...

    2. Re:Not this again... by swb · · Score: 1

      I honestly think that Tivo was just popular enough with the right people at the right time to get cablecard working for themselves that it became "viable".

      I've owned a Tivo since 2002 and I can remember how broken the cablecards were when they came out. There were practically entire forums devoted to all manner of voodoo on how to actually get a cablecard, get one that worked, etc.

      It was like "if you live in Minneapolis and use Comcast, call Jenny on Tuesdays before 2 PM and Thursdays between 9 and 11 am at her direct number. You have to call from your dining room, but not the kitchen, and make sure she schedules Tom but not Lars and get an M stream card with a serial number ending in 4, 7 or 9 and reboot your Tivo exactly 4 minutes and 27 seconds before the installer gets there. Or none of it will work and you will have to start over."

      You would think if cablecards were such a great solution there would be a slot in every TV for one and whole industry of DVR/STBs that used them that did things even Trump would say were amazing.

      What surprises me sometimes is why cable companies haven't given up on all of it and haven't just given in to some IP based open standard, especially for cable internet subscribers. While I'm sure they make money in some way on STBs, they also seem to spend a lot to provide a whole customer disservice experience involving store fronts and warehouse lot worth of hardware making that money. An IP-enabled dongle that fit an HDMI port they didn't have to spec, buy, warehouse and support should make everyone happy and let them ditch a lot of labor and cost overhead.

      Plus, if they went all IP they would have the entire spectrum available in RG-6 for data, since "watching" a channel would just enable a customer requesting a data stream when they needed it, not dedicating some hunk of frequency to a channel with low viewer numbers.

    3. Re: Not this again... by unitron · · Score: 1

      If cable companies can't have all of the money, it seems that they don't want any of it.

      Provided no one else gets it, either.

      Like when they don't want to wire an area, but go to great lengths to keep anyone else, especially local governments, from being allowed to do it.

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    4. Re:Not this again... by mrbester · · Score: 1

      "if you live in Minneapolis and use Comcast, call Jenny on Tuesdays before 2 PM and Thursdays between 9 and 11 am at her direct number"

      That's still 867-5309, right?

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    5. Re:Not this again... by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      They've already tried this with CableCard, and except for TiVos and some in-TV setups there wasn't a big debut of third-party yes-you-own-it-outright equipment.

      They also did it with cable modems, and it works very well. I am using a Motorola Surfboard 6141 that I bought at MicroCenter right now. So it can work...

    6. Re:Not this again... by toddestan · · Score: 1

      It's not the 80's anymore. 612-367-5309.

  7. Re:Cable boxes are the foodhold of a dying industr by beanpoppa · · Score: 1

    I have both Comcast cable TV (basic service with Internet is the same price as Internet alone) and I have DirecTV. Video quality on DirecTV is better, BY FAR, than Comcast. Comcast is so over compressed, even my completely non-technie wife notices that something is 'wrong' with the picture. Sure, some channels (like kids channels and shopping channels) are more compressed than others on DirecTV, but the ones where you want the quality have it. Neither, however, compares to OTA.

  8. weird by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tom Wheeler - former cable lobbyist turned FCC Chairman
    Michael Powell - former FCC Chairman turned cable lobbyist

    Does anyone else feel like maybe we should try swapping our politicians with our lobbyists for a month just to see if it works elsewhere too? ;)

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    1. Re:weird by inode_buddha · · Score: 2

      I think the American People shoud get together to pool their resources, and hire a lobbyist to represent them in Congress.

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    2. Re: weird by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      No, because I can go exchange my cable box or modem to time warner any time it breaks or a new one comes out If I buy and it breaks I have to buy another one. And 30 years of open windows and Android has shown me that open standards mean slow performance

    3. Re: weird by unitron · · Score: 2

      No, because I can go exchange my cable box or modem to time warner any time it breaks or a new one comes out

      If I buy and it breaks I have to buy another one. And 30 years of open windows and Android has shown me that open standards mean slow performance

      My experience with TWC cable boxes makes me appreciate my TiVos all the more.

      When TWC started charging rent on cable modems, I bought one which is about the same quality/level of performance as what I'd be paying rent on, and for what I would have paid in rent I can buy a new one every year and break even. But I don't need a new one every year, so basically what I saved the first year repaid what I spent, so it's like I got it for free.

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    4. Re: weird by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      No, because I can go exchange my cable box or modem to time warner any time it breaks or a new one comes out If I buy and it breaks I have to buy another one. And 30 years of open windows and Android has shown me that open standards mean slow performance

      In Houston, ROI on a cable modem purchase vs rental is 5 months. And my cable modem is 2 years old. And as far as exchanges go, Mircocenter has shorter lines than Comcast, and Amazon delivers...

  9. How DARE you! by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Cable companies to FCC: "How DARE you try to mess with our outdated, overpriced business model!"

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  10. What's new? by jlgreer1 · · Score: 1

    Shame on the cable companies!!!!

  11. He's not wrong by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "An agency of limited jurisdiction has to act properly within that jurisdiction," Powell said, ... "Every problem does not empower an FCC-directed solution. The agency is not an agency with unbridled plenary power to roam around markets and decide to go fix inconveniences everywhere they find them irrespective of the bounds of their authority."

    He's not wrong, not every problem does empower an FCC directed solution. It's just too bad for him that this problem does empower a FCC directed solution.
    Do you think he swims in all the money they are giving him like Scrooge McDuck?

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  12. Imagine the cable equivalent of DD-WRT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I can't wait to gain what Time Warner and Cablevision refuses me in New York:
    The ability to do PictureInPicture
    The inability to remove do a "learn" mode so pressing up and down on the remote won't advertise to me what blocked channels they want me to start paying for. What use are all these modes on my TV set if it's only ever tuned into channel 3 (ok, "HDMI 1")?

    I also guarantee that competitors will also be removing all the waiting from bufferbloat (when tuning a channel, even just seeing a number after pressing a button on your remote --my smartphone apparently is better as a remote than both of their $3/month remotes we're renting)
    I am tired of slow cold boot times because of the slow Java clients. I'm talking 5 to 10 minutes. PC's beat that a decade ago.
    And with configurability we'd end up having some real cool stuff like scripts for automated surfing (excuse me if Tivo or AppleTV already offer this)

  13. Cable boxes have no future by Kohath · · Score: 1

    Cable TV is going to be an app on your TV or your PlayStation or a Roku-like device. The boxes have no future.

    1. Re:Cable boxes have no future by Kohath · · Score: 1

      No. Regardless of what the FCC does. No one is going to make a useless box. Any cable company that requires one won't be able to compete with PlayStation Vue or Sling TV or Apple's cable replacement service or Amazon's cable replacement service.

  14. Let 'em sue by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 1

    The Feds have deeper pockets.

  15. Re: Cable boxes are the foodhold of a dying indust by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

    There is an algorithm they use to dynamically assign bandwidth based on viewers. Sports gets the best quality

  16. Re: Cable boxes are the foodhold of a dying indus by alcmena · · Score: 1

    Really? Do you have any references? That makes a ton of sense, but I'd love to read up and learn more about how they do it.

  17. FCC should just cite All Writs Act, Done! by Proudrooster · · Score: 1

    The FCC should just cite All Writs Act, Done!

  18. Re:Cable boxes are the foodhold of a dying industr by uncqual · · Score: 1

    Satellite TV is pretty useful for people who live in an area not served by good broadband or cable or someone who travel in an RV a lot. These people are not "dumb", it's just the best option for them.

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  19. The boxes have no brains by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 1

    The cable companies are already moving to a model where the cable boxes in your home have almost no real smarts of their own. There's just enough there to boot linux+busybox, display video content, and render the menus. The heavy lifting, and ALL of the brains (if you can call it that) of the system are handled on the back end by the cable company. Even if you are able to purchase your own box, I suspect you'll be forced to license their software anyway and still get a monthly fee jammed down your throat.

    Looking forward to the day where I can just get a pipe to the internet from whatever company and then buy over-the-top TV from the single digit number of stations that I actually watch. That's really what terrifies the cable companies and why they're trying to buy up content providers.

  20. Not a true Conservative, eh? by golodh · · Score: 1
    @hguorbray

    I can tell you're not a true radical Conservative.

    If I understand (radical) Conservative thought right, the single most detrimental organisation we know is "The Government", and one of the worst things they can possibly do is to interfere with "The Market". In whattever form or shape.

    So here's (my impression of) the Conservatove take on things: the FCC is one of the tentacles of The Government, and it's trying to interfere with Private Enterprise (i.e. the Cable industry). Now that's Wrong ... and should be stopped at once.

    We know there are always some who find excuses about this-or-that short-term benefit that might arise from Government Interference. Well, this is the way in which Big Government proponents work their favourite pasttime: trying to insert The Government (or its subsidiaries) into ever more aspects of our society by letting The Government overstep its current level of authority and hence acquire new levels of authority. Now this can only lead to new levels of bureaucracy and more Government expenditure.

    In this view there is only one sane policy: resist the temptation to let The Government meddle yet again, step aside, and let The Market solve the problem.

    The additional benefit of this is: you can zip through the daily news like nobody's business and tell at a glance who is Wrong and who is Right. All it takes a little backbone to ignore the continuous pleas and indignant squawks from activists, do-gooders, and (leftist) consumer organisations.

    Instant peace of mind will be your reward.

  21. What cable industry? by wwalker · · Score: 2

    Cable industry? What cable industry? Every year I do this dance with Comcast, where they raise the prices on my cable bill by 50% or more, and I have to call their "customer retention department" to get a better deal. LPT: say "cancel service" into the phone to get a live agent on the line almost immediately. To get the better deal, they ask me what shows I watch, to figure out which channels I need, to get the cheapest package possible with fewest channels. And every year I realize that I watch less and less shows. This year, with the Mythbusters gone, and a few other shows I used to watch on cable, I think I'm down to network TV, so I might as well cancel the thing and get a TV antenna. I still have Netflix and it's been pretty great. I'm sure I'm not the only one going in that direction. It does seem that the "cable industry" is really trying its best to kill itself as fast as possible. Now I just wish I could as easily do the same with the medical insurance ever increasing premiums...

  22. Why wouldn't they? by Verdatum · · Score: 1

    I'm not saying this because cable is evil, I'm saying this from a business perspective. Of _course_ the cable industry is going to try and stop this. They would be completely foolish if they didn't at least try. If they can fight this and possibly hold on to a revenue stream, or at least hold on to it a little longer, or not fight it and lose money....they're gonna fight it. They probably know they are going to lose. That's not the point.