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Half Of Teens Think They're Addicted To Their Smartphones (cnn.com)

An anonymous reader writes: A new poll confirms just how much teens depend on their phones. Fifty percent of teens feel they are addicted to their mobile devices, according to the poll, which was conducted for Common Sense Media, a nonprofit focused on helping children, parents, teachers and policymakers negotiate media and technology. A larger number of parents, 59%, said their teens were addicted. The poll involved 1,240 interviews with parents and their children, ages 12 to 18. "Technological addiction can happen to anyone," said digital detox expert Holland Haiis. "If your teens would prefer gaming indoors, alone, as opposed to going out to the movies, meeting friends for burgers or any of the other ways that teens build camaraderie, you may have a problem."

103 comments

  1. The left half .... by kreuzotter · · Score: 1

    or the right half?

    1. Re:The left half .... by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      The other half.

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      We play the game with the bravery of being out of range
    2. Re:The left half .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, the half below the waist.

    3. Re:The left half .... by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

      The half that downloaded that new "Phone Addiction" app on the first day it came out.

  2. Simple question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    It's obvious that most teens are addicted. Why don't parents just take away the phones? It's not like the teens can do much about it. They're not entitled to smartphones. Why not take them away?

    I suspect I'll get downmodded to -1 so people can avoid the question and pretend like it's not here. Can anyone actually answer the question rather than evading it through moderation? I don't think Slashdot is capable of giving a good answer.

    1. Re:Simple question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You mean the smartphones they use to socialize with their friends?

    2. Re:Simple question by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 0

      BLAH BLAH BLAH SOMETHING SOMETHING. BLAH BLAH BLAH OBVIOUS BLAH?

      I suspect I'll get downmodded to -1 so people can avoid the question and pretend like it's not here. Can anyone actually answer the question rather than evading it through moderation? I don't think Slashdot is capable of giving a good answer.

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    3. Re: Simple question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Butthurt much?

    4. Re:Simple question by kheldan · · Score: 2

      Why don't parents just take away the phones?

      I heard this story on NPR yesterday before it was posted here. A sizeable portion of the parents of these 'addicted' teenagers are also addicted to their phones.

      It's stupid. It's a phone, not a lifestyle; stop making it into one. Just one more thing to add to the list of reasons I'd never want a so-called 'smartphone': being associated with these sort of people. If it wasn't for safety reasons, and if it didn't cost any less money, I'd skip having any sort of wireless phone and just go back to a landline.

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      Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
    5. Re:Simple question by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      a clue: the problem aren't the smartphones...

    6. Re:Simple question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect I'll get downmodded to -1 so people can avoid the question and pretend like it's not here. Can anyone actually answer the question rather than evading it through moderation? I don't think Slashdot is capable of giving a good answer.

      Stop doing that, psycho.

    7. Re:Simple question by TWX · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I survived being grounded, without long-lasting repercussions. They'll survive.

      Kids need to learn that there are consequences for their actions, while those consequences are relatively minor.

      As a parallel, I ended up getting a better job at work because the guy that was the lead tested several of us out, "borrowing" us for some larger jobs. One of the guys that lost-out did so because he couldn't stop texting to focus on the damn job.

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      Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
    8. Re:Simple question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed.

      A large portion of the population are weak minded and will latch on to anything for the tiniest bit of gratification.
      Its not addiction so much as redefining ones life using THE ONE TRUE THING, which could be anything really.

      A good example of this is casual gaming, where "normal" people keep playing the same game year after year even if its the shittiest of games just because it was the FIRST game they ever tried.

    9. Re:Simple question by TWX · · Score: 1

      I admit, I was an early-adopter and had a T-Mobile G1 (aka HTC Dream), which was the first production Android phone. Now, I got it because I saw Android as the natural evolution for use of a personal digital assistant kind of device, and I'd carried Palm devices for years. Unlike Palm, the over-the-air synching and other centralized services actually worked right, so the phone acted as a natural extension of my existing e-mail and contacts and calendar and the like, and the actual handset didn't matter since the content that was important was housed centrally.

      I don't text all that much, I don't get on the phone all that much. I check the device when I have notifications, but given the nature of my current job and dealing with outages, it makes it convenient to know that something's gone awry quickly so I can address it while handling my other duties.

      I would much rather people call me on my landline, and my business cards don't even have my cell phone number printed on them. If someone needs my cell phone number I'll provide it, but that's not usually the case.

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      Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
    10. Re:Simple question by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      I am similar. I had the G1. Now I am burned out on smartphones and only look at mine when I have to. I think people will eventually burn out on smartphones. They are just "new" to many people. New meaning 1-5 years of regular use.

    11. Re:Simple question by Scarred+Intellect · · Score: 1

      A good example of this is casual gaming, where "normal" people keep playing the same game year after year even if its the shittiest of games just because it was the FIRST game they ever tried.

      Halo comes to mind.

    12. Re:Simple question by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      When I was in college, a friend had just come back from the mall where he said that someone in a kiosk as tying to sell him a cell phone (this was in the early days of cell phones). The sales person was going over all the things you could do with it and said 'once you try it, you'll never be able to live without it' to which my friend responded 'that sounds like heroin. Why would I want that?'.

    13. Re:Simple question by slack_justyb · · Score: 1, Interesting

      They're not entitled to smartphones. Why not take them away?

      And then what? Okay so you've taken the phone away, it is not like they are just going to say, "Oh gee, my phone is gone, I guess I'll do things that I don't normally do." It's like people who yell, "Oh just take food stamps away and people will magically get jobs." People just don't magically change overnight and just simply taking a phone away for any short length of time isn't fixing a perceived problem. Allow them to use it for only an hour a day? That's not going to fix jack all that does is make the whole effort an exercise in futility.

      What needs to be done, is to teach a level of responsibility that is required to use these devices. You know how you have to teach a kid to drive like a sane human being? And how that just doesn't happen overnight? Yeah, it's like that. Except we've had cars for quite some time now so we're all pretty on the up and up about what responsible "is". Not so much for phones (we are getting there though). What's the responsible level? Using the phone only to answer calls? Allow at least thirty minutes outside? There's not even a rough outline as to what "responsible" is for phone usage, the only thing people can squarely lay their fingers on is what ISN'T responsible. Like don't use it while watching a movie, don't use it while driving, get out of the house every once and awhile (how often being highly subjective) And so on.

      So all of that said, we're still in an infant stage of smartphones and yeah, we're going to be complete morons when it comes to them, congrats CNN for pointing out the blindingly obvious about the human condition. But arbitrarily saying, "Oh just take them away" is also NOT going to solve jack crap. We're going to have to develop through trail and error what we think is best and that's going to take a lot of time to eventually figure that out. And that is the reason "just take them away" does not work, it arguably runs counter to everything we know that might actually work. We're just going to have to grin and bear it and work though this as painful as that sounds.

      Which brings me more to the point of...

      If your teens would prefer gaming indoors, alone, as opposed to going out to the movies, meeting friends for burgers or any of the other ways that teens build camaraderie, you may have a problem.

      Building friends and have a close network of peers is clearly a more favorable position than the opposite. However, the thing I have a problem with is the idea that we still need to go out to the movies or get burgers or any of that other crap to build those things. The methods for how people have met, developed friendship, and created long lasting bonds has always evolved. Note how we don't usually go out on fox hunts with hounds and horseback nonsense to get our monthly get together in. Or how we have a lot fewer formal balls. Etc. We change how we do these things as time marches forward. Am I saying that Facebook is a perfect replacement? Not By A Long Shot. Are we too entrenched into phones? Yeah, more than likely. But saying that the way to counter all of that is to just put the phone down and ignore that the last 30 years happened is just silly. We don't have the answer to how to bring society out of the zombie inducing smartphone era, but I assure you, we're going to have to get use to the idea that the answer very well might include the smartphone in some sort of fashion. Better or worse we've got this new thing and it isn't leaving anytime soon.

      So TL;DR the answer to "Why not take them away?" Because it won't work. That's just not how humans operate. For better or worse we're going to have to slowly and painfully figure this crap out and society as a whole will slowly evolve the answers. CNN's piece is so infuriating because it is devoid of anyone talking about actual solutions. It just keeps repeating over and over, "this is a problem, this is a prob

    14. Re:Simple question by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      IKids need to learn that there are consequences for their actions, while those consequences are relatively minor.

      They aren't going to do that if mommy and daddy micromanage their lives. Kids socialize. Get over it. My 15 year daughter spends a lot of time on her phone. That is her choice. She isn't out drinking, or using drugs, or getting pregnant, and her grades are good. So she is doing a lot better than I was at her age.

      If you seriously believe that too much texting and photo sharing is an existential crisis, then please don't have kids.

    15. Re:Simple question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taking someone's phone is macro-managing, wanting to know each text or conversation is micro-managing.

    16. Re:Simple question by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      She isn't out drinking, or using drugs, or getting pregnant, and her grades are good.

      So, you're not Todd Palin then.

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    17. Re:Simple question by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Hey I love my smart phone. I can make calls on it, it fits perfectly between the top of the ashtray and bottom of the radio in my car, it plays music that I can connect to my car radio, it functions as a gps when I am going to unfamiliar areas, functions as a USB thumb drive in a pinch, and it has a better alarm feature than previous cell phones I have had. Other than that I could care less so I guess I am not the target market.

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      Time to offend someone
    18. Re:Simple question by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Taking someone's phone is macro-managing, wanting to know each text or conversation is micro-managing.

      But both are bad parenting. By the time a kids are in high school, they are ready to start making their own choices. Parents should give guidance and step in when there is a problem.

      Here is a checklist of things that are, and are not, major teenage problems:

      Is a problem:
      1. Drug addiction
      2. Binge drinking
      3. Drunk driving
      4. Flunking out of school
      5. Juvenile detention
      6. Pregnancy
      7. HIV
      8. Suicide

      Not a problem:
      1. Sharing cat videos with her friends

    19. Re:Simple question by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      However, the thing I have a problem with is the idea that we still need to go out to the movies or get burgers or any of that other crap to build those things. The methods for how people have met, developed friendship, and created long lasting bonds has always evolved. Note how we don't usually go out on fox hunts with hounds and horseback nonsense to get our monthly get together in. Or how we have a lot fewer formal balls. Etc. We change how we do these things as time marches forward. Am I saying that Facebook is a perfect replacement? Not By A Long Shot.

      Well, that your first examples DO have in common, is that they were both putting people you were interacting with, conversing with, BONDING with...in physical proximity to each other. During these events, you physically did things together, physically went new places together, and physically interacted with one another.

      You don't do that through FB or the cell phone.

      I'm meeting more and more young kids, that just don't seem to have any people skills whatsoever. I'm not talking about just not being polite, I'm talking about being too shy to talk, not knowing HOW to talk or interact with a person or even a small group of folks.

      The cell phone and other media is good for helping get folks together to DO something...it is troublesome that the tool is becoming and end unto itself and replacing youth learning how to deal with persons and people in meatspace in a real and meaningful way.

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    20. Re:Simple question by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      I suspect I'll get downmodded to -1 so people can avoid the question and pretend like it's not here.

      We just don't think it's a problem, and we want them to have phones to call us or text us when shit gets too real.

    21. Re:Simple question by HaZardman27 · · Score: 2

      I agree. I believe this is why so many teens "go crazy" when they leave home for university. They've spent 17-18 years being sheltered and micro-managed by their parents, and suddenly they're left more-or-less on their own to make important decisions and manage their lives. Making decisions _for_ your kids isn't helping them become well-adjusted adults.

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      Apparently wizard is not a legitimate career path, so I chose programmer instead.
    22. Re:Simple question by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

      I'm in the same boat. My phone is my watch, ebook reader, email client, media player, camera, and atlas. And it also lets me get internet on my laptop when I'm on the train. I have very little desire to "socialize" with it, but for practical purposes, a good smartphone is amazing.

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      Apparently wizard is not a legitimate career path, so I chose programmer instead.
    23. Re:Simple question by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I've met countless people hunting - albeit not usually for fox. Also fishing... I've been to many formal dinners and even some fancy engagements that you'd probably call a ball - as dancing and drinking, while appropriately attired, was the goal and with a live small string quartet or even a marginally larger band. If you want to count the Birthday Ball then I've actually been to quite a few balls. But no, I don't think I've ever met anyone while hunting for fox. Deer? Yes. Fox? No. I do believe I'm allowed to hunt them but I can't actually imagine why I'd shoot one. It's not like I can eat it. Well, more like it's not like I am going to eat it.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
  3. Gaming indoors? by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What does gaming indoors have to do with smartphones? Oh I get it, a "digital detox expert" is trying to make a buck doing nothing with their life.

    1. Re:Gaming indoors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you'd prefer to be alone than with other people you are unhealthy and wrong!

      Please pay no attention to the fact that an estimated 50-75% of people are introverts... those people are just sick in the head and we can fix them by paying some one else to do it... a therapist, psychologist or digital detox expert.

    2. Re:Gaming indoors? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      If you'd prefer to be alone than with other people

      Yeah, but I kind of think that's because of other people, not because of me :)

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  4. And the other half... by OakDragon · · Score: 1

    And the other half are in denial.

    1. Re:And the other half... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Nah - the other half said "sent me a text".

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      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
  5. I grew up as a nerd by WarJolt · · Score: 1

    I thought being online all the time was weird. I was glued to my monitor. Now everyone is doing it with cell phones and saying they are addicted. I kinda miss when you had to be a nerd to get online. It wasn't a social issue back then.

    1. Re:I grew up as a nerd by zlives · · Score: 1

      being nerd was not a social issue... when did you grow up? in the 2010's?

    2. Re:I grew up as a nerd by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      Don't bother...
      The terms "nerd" and "geek" lost their true meaning about ten years ago.

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      We play the game with the bravery of being out of range
    3. Re:I grew up as a nerd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought being online all the time was weird. I was glued to my monitor. Now everyone is doing it with cell phones and saying they are addicted. I kinda miss when you had to be a nerd to get online. It wasn't a social issue back then.

      It was a social issue, but it just affected nerds. Now, regular folks complain about the social aspects of tech and Internet addiction. I'm really tempted to show the level of compassion that others showed me back in the '90s: None. Still, I find myself thinking, "Those kids, they'll learn." Sometimes, I'll even say it aloud, even though I know it will make no difference whatsoever. Foolish me.

  6. Just Emulating Their Parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How am I supposed to keep my kids from getting addicted to smart phones when my wife snaps at me every time I suggest that maybe she could put her phone down during dinner.

    1. Re: Just Emulating Their Parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Get a divorce.

    2. Re:Just Emulating Their Parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My baby boomer parents are some of the most smart phone addicted people I know.

    3. Re:Just Emulating Their Parents by chadenright · · Score: 2

      Instead of picking on her for not being engaged, try being more interesting than her phone. Ask her interesting things about topics she likes to talk about.

      Would bet that if you put a couple candles out, dimmed the lights and sat next to her she wouldn't even bring her phone out.

    4. Re:Just Emulating Their Parents by zlives · · Score: 2

      if all else fails you could just socially engage other adults, that might get her attention.

  7. Half of teens are app appers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Modern app appers know that only apps can app apps, so these teens are actually app appers who only app apps!

    Apps!

    1. Re:Half of teens are app appers! by itsenrique · · Score: 1

      But what about the LUDDITES?

  8. Well then lets declare war against smart phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wheres Nancy Reagan when we need her?

  9. Corrected Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "People Don't Understand What The Word "Addicted" Means"

  10. The term 'addiction' is pretty much meaningless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...or perhaps 'addiction' means 'anything that keeps us busy doing something while we should busy on something else'.

    I've had a couple friends die because of real addictions. Being addicted to your smart phone is not even on the same spectrum.

  11. Perhaps we give them too little credit. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    If your teens would prefer gaming indoors, alone (Well online with hundreds of people who they are interacting with)
    as opposed to going out to the movies (Nothing more social going into a big dark room to sit down to watch a movie, and told be quite)
    meeting friends for burgers (Nothing wholesome like connecting friendship with the injection of fatty foods. )
    or any of the other ways that teens build camaraderie. (camaraderie?!? For teens they are so self absorbed that they never even listen to their friends they all just talk about themselves in turn. Their enemies are the ones who actually listen to them and use what they say against them. )

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    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    1. Re:Perhaps we give them too little credit. by gatfirls · · Score: 1

      (in)(ter)(esting)

  12. Uh huh... by EmeraldBot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "If your teens would prefer writing poetry, alone, as opposed to going out to the theater, meeting friends for rolls or any of the other ways that teens build camaraderie, you may have a problem." - ancient Rome ~ 0AD

    If you're addicted, by all means seek treatment, but honestly, most of this is simply another round of how decadent kids are, and this has been going for many thousands of years, probably since the first ever sucessful hunt. Furthermore, most of this is pales to a real addiction - if your symptoms are that you don't like being around others, how about we talk about being addicted to books? Being addicted to movies? Being addicted to schoolwork? Hell, being addicted to being an introvert? The symptoms are all the same. Undoubtly there are people who truly suffer from this, I'm not saying there aren't, but I suspect much of this to be overblown out of proportions.

    --
    "Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
    1. Re:Uh huh... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When I was growing up, I preferred reading a book to interacting with people. I even had a "dealer" (my local library) who supplied me with a seemingly endless supply of free books to fuel my addiction. I rarely went out with friends to the movies and never went to hang out at a burger shop or the mall. (I half expected the author to cite declining "sock hop" participation." I turned out just fine (though nowadays I don't have the time to feed my book addiction as much as I'd like).

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    2. Re:Uh huh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I half expected the author to cite declining "sock hop" participation

      Ha!

    3. Re:Uh huh... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      It's possible to zealously engage in an activity to the point where it is harmful - and I don't think that I know of any activity where that can't be true.

      As an aside, your librarian might have even given you those first hits for free and now that you're an adult you can look back and see all that you've spent on the industry. It *is* like drug pushers!

      I shouldn't do this to you but I'm going to... See, I discovered something not too long ago. I hate to admit it but it's true and if you don't have time to feed your addiction then this might help keep the cravings away, at least tame them a little. There are some very good audio books. I shit you not. It may take a minute to find a narrator that you appreciate but there's probably one out there. Depending on what you read, there are many choices.

      I never thought I'd say this but audio books aren't that bad. Yeah... I know... Weird... But they're not that bad and I'm used to filling my addiction with something fairly close to speed reading - but with worse retention, it's entertainment and not academic. I'd give your favorite torrent site a check to see what you can find. Then, when you find something you like (if you do) then you can go spend too much money on buying them.

      Yes I, of all people, just suggested that you go pirate. However, I suggest paying after you've decided you like them. You could try your local library - some of them actually have a good selection.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    4. Re:Uh huh... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      I know all about audio books. My wife likes using them so she can crochet and "read" at the same time. I'm more into electronic books since I can have a stack of "books" with me at all times.

      Of course, I've also moved into writing my own book so hopefully one day I'm fueling someone else's book addiction.

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    5. Re:Uh huh... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Put me on your notification list for when you're done, if you don't mind. And I'm expecting you're aware of them - I'm suspecting that you're not using them. :D They actually aren't as bad as I'd expected. They can be hell to pay attention to while driving in traffic. I could probably text a novel while driving and have fewer distractions than I have when listening and driving. I've reached the point where I tend to wait until I'm on the highway or away from traffic before listening. The missus doesn't much care for them so she's got headphones but sometimes she listens politely.

      As I said, I'm not so arrogant as to make a suggestion as to genre or narrator but I suspect you'll find some you like. If you're really wanting to feed your addiction AND you spend some time in a car (which I seem to recall you having mentioned in the past - which is why I brought it up) then it might be something to look into.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    6. Re:Uh huh... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      We did listen to the audio book copy of The Princess, The Scoundrel, And The Farm Boy (a retelling of Star Wars Episode 4 with sections from Leia's, Han's, and Luke's perspective) on a recent road trip. It was very nice. I still prefer the act of sitting down, letting the book be my entire focus, and actually reading it myself, though. I wouldn't look down on someone who's into audio books (we also used them to help one of my son's get into reading - he'd read the book along with the audio book), but they're just not my cup of tea.

      I'll let you know when my book is done. It was originally supposed to just be a short story, but at 37,000 words I think it's headed more towards short-novel territory.

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    7. Re:Uh huh... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I, too, much prefer to sit (technically lay) down and read but time sure is sometimes lacking and I spend a lot of time in an automobile. I've found it comes in handy and allows me to keep my desire reasonably well quenched. :D

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
  13. Out of touch by snadrus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Gaming indoors is the modern teen camaraderie:
      - Invites communication & collaborative strategy
      - Experiencing win/lose attitudes

    Movies are the epitome of anti-social:
      - sit silently in the dark, opposing all who talk, to be indoctrinated.

    Driving age is over 18 in many areas, or over 19 with passengers, so how are the "teens" supposed to get to this burger place?

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    Science & open-source build trust from peer review. Learn systems you can trust.
    1. Re: Out of touch by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 1

      Video games make you have to make decisions in a short amount of time. This makes you better to think on your feet. There's a lot to be said for the good video games provide compared to just being a passive watcher of tv. And the communication factor of a phone(heh) provides for more socialization with the people you know.

  14. Smartphone are my second biggest addiction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My biggest addiction is porcelain toilets in heated buildings. It takes a lot rehab to get over that one.

    1. Re:Smartphone are my second biggest addiction... by Shortguy881 · · Score: 1

      Sure, using a toilet a few times a day is quite comparable to spending hours and hours on a phone. Now if you sat on your toilet for hours and hours...

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      Brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants.
    2. Re:Smartphone are my second biggest addiction... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      But going into a restroom stall to play Solitaire on a phone (bad wireless coverage for anything else) is something one can enjoy for hours and hours, at least while being paid by the hour.

    3. Re:Smartphone are my second biggest addiction... by Shortguy881 · · Score: 1

      Clearly you have a toilet addiction. You should get that looked at.

      --
      Brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants.
  15. Definitions by Aaden42 · · Score: 1

    Half of teens think being "triggered" is feeling mildly uncomfortable after reading something they don't like and "depression" is not enjoying getting up early in the morning to go to school. Some definitions and a little bit of perspective might be in order.

    Having a mental illness is the new black, don'tcha know. Who needs health professionals when you can self diagnose based on what you read on Tumblr?

    1. Re:Definitions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that you're taking memes too seriously.

    2. Re:Definitions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. From what I understand you can't be addicted (in the medical sense) to a smartphone because addiction implies a chemical dependency. At best "smartphone addiction" would be classified as a compulsion, not an addiction.

  16. Wrong question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm addicted to my left arm. I rarely go a day without it, and at this point I'm not sure I can stop using it without intervention.

    Seriously, though, stop blaming the tool. If these teens are using their devices in moderation for communication, education, and yes, entertainment, that's called progress.
    If they are gaming alone too much, just say that.
    FWIW, my parents thought I was gaming too much on my Commodore 64.

  17. Did we all turn into luddites and fogeys? by geek111 · · Score: 2

    "If your teens would prefer gaming indoors, alone, as opposed to going out to the movies, meeting friends for burgers or any of the other ways that teens build camaraderie, you may have a problem."

    I'm sorry but this is the same bullsh** parents used to spout when I was a child-

    Don't waste your time playing video games!
    Go outside and get some sun!
    Why don't you go play football or something?
    you'll never if you just sit there on that computer all day.

    Our parents meant well. But they didn't understand that games are the primary training tool for computer interfaces... They didn't see what was possible and thought we were all wasting our time. But now they know differently. Now they are all online and happy to receive pictures of their grandchildren and get to Skype/Facetime/etc with their families and friends. Now everyone wants their child into STEM and interest in football is waning because we've finally realized that repeatedly hitting our children in the head has consequences. At last, being a nerd is no longer a stigma.

    If more than half of teens have this supposed 'problem' who is to say it's not the new normal? We ran up to them and handed them a baton and now we don't like which way they are running with it? If my generation had listened to our parent's the PC would have been a flash-in-the-pan fad and the world would look very different right now.

    The real question for me is - What amazing things will this next generation do with the technology at their fingertips?

    1. Re:Did we all turn into luddites and fogeys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real question for me is - What amazing things will this next generation do with the technology at their fingertips?

      This. (try to ignore the yammering idiots, just watch the video segment)

  18. Half Of Teens Think They're Addicted... by kenh · · Score: 1

    Half Of Teens Think They're Addicted To Their Smartphones - the other half are in denial.

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    1. Re:Half Of Teens Think They're Addicted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My thoughts exactly

      I don't see any teens not playing with their phones while on the public bus.

    2. Re:Half Of Teens Think They're Addicted... by geantvert · · Score: 1

      or more likely, the other half don't know what Addicted means.

  19. Seems a bit limiting by mlw4428 · · Score: 1

    "If your teens would prefer gaming indoors, alone, as opposed to going out to the movies, meeting friends for burgers or any of the other ways that teens build camaraderie, you may have a problem."

    Perhaps I hate paying outrageous amounts of money to sit in a dirty theater with stale, overpriced popcorn while some teenagers in upper back row provide braindead commentary and inside jokes with their other friends while theater management simply does nothing. Why are online relationships so much less "social"? I'm not making out with my friends, I'm not a hugger, so tell me why something like Facetime or Hangouts are less acceptable.

  20. And The Other Half KNOW by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    they are addicted. If we only had a Reagan to declare The War On Phones.

  21. Anti-introversion bias by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2

    If you would prefer doing things alone by yourself instead of with other people, the vast majority of whom are shitty and not worthy of your time, there's something wrong with you! /sarcasm

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  22. Can't trust their opiniongs by gurps_npc · · Score: 2

    After all, they probably just read on their cellphones that they were addicted, so they parroted it back ;D

    But to be honest, real addicts DENY that they are addicts. One of the core principles of the 12 steps is to admit your addiction. Same thing for most of the other non-12 step programs.

    Real addicts don't admit they have a problem.

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    1. Re:Can't trust their opiniongs by chadenright · · Score: 1

      Just because someone has admitted that they're addicted to something, doesn't mean they aren't addicted any more. Aren't there 11 other steps in the 12 step program? Try asking a few people who smoke cigarrettes or drink coffee whether they're addicted or not.

    2. Re: Can't trust their opiniongs by jxander · · Score: 1

      Yeah ... but the next 2 steps in the 12 are believe in god, and trust him kick your habit for you.

      So, you know, grain of salt and all that.

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  23. Yup by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    As a parent of kids who are just becoming teens, I can say it is real tough to keep them off of those things. We haven't get bought smartphones for our kids for partly this reason. Judging by how hard it is to keep them away from their tablets at home, and maintain a healthy balance to their lives, teachers will have no chance at it. Once they get phones I can see there will be no going back; they will spend every waking moment on them and we won't be there so there will be nothing we can do. I'm kind of shocked how early parents give these things to their kids to take to school.

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    1. Re:Yup by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 2

      real tough to keep them off of those things

      Stop paying the bill.

  24. Re:The term 'addiction' is pretty much meaningless by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    Unless you have to do something on it while driving.

  25. Re:GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would an American association have a .eu address?

  26. The real news here is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Half of teens *THINK*"!

  27. You mean... by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

    ...half of teens don't know what "addicted" means.

    1. Re:You mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I'm sure a much larger percentage would claim that they think they are addicted to sex, or even masturbating.

    2. Re:You mean... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      If you look at the comments and hype in the gaming sections of the App stores, you'll discover that 'addicting' has been adopted as a praiseworthy thing.

      "The Most Addicting Game in the App Store" is often part of the hype-description for a game.

      And in the User comments, people say things like 'This game is sooo addicting.'

      The word has changed, and something being 'addicting' isn't seen as so bad.

  28. Digital detox expert? by t4eXanadu · · Score: 1

    "Digital detox expert" cracked me up. I'm a Psychologist by education, and as far as I know, "digital detox expert" is not legit. I strongly doubt it is addiction in the same way we mean when we say, "Bob is addicted to opiates". Do teens go through physical withdrawal symptoms when smart phone use ceases? I mean, aside from being angsty and pissy (normal teen behavior).

    1. Re:Digital detox expert? by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Unlikely but one distinct difference between a psychologist and psychiatrist is that in psychiatry they emphasize that there is an underlying physical interaction to every thought and feeling and this is used to ignore the distinction between a physical addiction (such as opiates which cause a chemical interaction which ultimately converts into chemicals to which you form a dependence) and psychological addiction in which you find activities fulfilling and your brain triggers the release of "rewards."

      Obviously, yes, there is an underlying chemical interaction but psychological addiction is easier in that it can be replaced with other habits and behaviors you find fulfilling which will cause your brain to generate more of what you are actually addicted to. It is also much more difficult to cure because you can't detox and the neural pathways that have formed will be long lasting if not permanent. Physical addition over time almost always also results in psychological addiction.

      What I think people forget is that neither is actually evil in and of itself. We are all addicts and junkies addicted to behavior patterns and lots of substances. It is reasonably safe to say that every normal functioning human is addicted to sugars for instance. Sugars are cheap and plentiful and the behavior carries no social stigma as long as you are a functioning sugarholic.

      "Digital detox experts" and other addiction experts have a decided financial bias on this topic and it shows in their research. One common thing you see is scanning the brains of people who use a drug over time and pointing out changes in brain structure. Our brains are dynamic structures and reorganize themselves, of course there is a change in structure and show this as proof of the damage. You could pick any frequent and common activity performed over a long period of time and demonstrate a change in brain structure and they know this.

  29. Re:The term 'addiction' is pretty much meaningless by t4eXanadu · · Score: 1

    It's not meaningless, it's just used incorrectly. Do teens go through physical withdrawal symptoms when they are forced to stay off of their mobile devices? I very much doubt it. Do they engage in risky or illegal activity to ensure they can continue using mobile phones? Does their mobile phone use severely impair their ability to function socially, academically, or otherwise? Possibly, but nowhere near the extent to which something like heroin or alcohol. Thus, one can't be addicted to a phone.

  30. Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, of course...it's the most influential gadget OF ALL TIME.

  31. What's the difference? by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

    "If your teens would prefer gaming indoors, alone, as opposed to going out to the movies, meeting friends for burgers or any of the other ways that teens build camaraderie, you may have a problem."

    I'm not sure that there is much of a difference between going out to eat burgers with friends, or playing a game online with friends. They're both social events...

  32. I sniffed my new phone. nothing. by swschrad · · Score: 1

    so how the hell are they getting addicted?

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  33. Yeah, okay. by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

    When I was a teen, I thought I was addicted to Green Day.

    They'll be fine.

  34. So... ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm equally addicted to indoor plumbing and electricity.

  35. Very outdated mindset by shaitand · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Teens build camaraderie through online interaction and not going out to movies these days.

    To an out of touch parent it may appear your child is gaming alone. In reality they likely have a chat and/or voice connection to their friends and are playing a game together through the net. This is no less social or camaraderie than sitting in a room playing a board or video game together but parents would see one as social interaction and the other as isolation.

  36. Wrong crowd? by icedcool · · Score: 1

    "Addicted to technology" and "If your teens would prefer gaming indoors, alone, as opposed to going out to the movies, meeting friends for burgers or any of the other ways that teens build camaraderie, you may have a problem." You might be describing most of slashdot and the linux crowd?

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  37. The Saget threshold for addiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would you suck dick for it?

  38. Re:GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA by KGIII · · Score: 1

    That's the Austrian branch. *nods*

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  39. Same old bullshit, different day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    alone

    What do you think they're doing on those things? Recompiling their Linux kernel? They're talking to their fucking friends.

    digital detox expert Holland Haiis

    Am I to understand that some asshole named Holland Haiis is making a CAREER out of bitching about technology? What is even the point of whining about Kids These Days(tm) when civilization is clearly already fucked?

  40. In other news... by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

    In other news, half of teens don't understand what the word "addicted" means.

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    I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
  41. Back when words meant something... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "addiction" meant that a person had consumed something, his body had chemically adapted to it, and now if the substance was taken away he would suffer physical withdrawl as his body was unable to, or struggling to, resume normal operation without the addictive substance. It used to primarily apply to drugs.

    Around about the time the "twinkie defense" arose in a court room, the various would-be mind-reading experts in certain professional fields and all sorts of oddball activists started applying the term "addiction" to anything somebody likes and does not want to stop.

    Phone addiction? Shut the damn thing off.

    Cannot leave it off for a whole day? Smash it with a sledge hammer. "Addiction" solved.

    A kid who whines and complains and fidgets when deprived of a phone is no different from a typical three year old lying on the floor and screaming in a store when mommy or daddy won't buy some shiny bauble. It's called a tantrum and if not stopped it will produce an anti-social spoiled brat adult who will need a "safe space" someday in college and will probably become a social justice warrior.

    The electronic world is no world at all. It's a dead-end of mind-numbing entertainment to support mountains of advertising and spying. Young people need to be encouraged to go out into the real world to meet other people in person, encounter trees and animals, rivers, lakes, and oceans, the sky and mountains, etc. You can fry your brains on a regular diet of e-this and e-that when you are old and physically debilitated and no longer able to venture out into nature. Interacting with everybody via smartphone is fine when you are old and wheelchair-bound or stuck in a hospital bed. When you are young you should be meeting people face-to-face and TRULY interacting, going to see and do things together with friends and family. Failing to teach kids this is a form of child abuse.