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DVDFab Has Ignored Court's Shut Down Order, AACS Says (torrentfreak.com)

An anonymous reader cites a report on TorrentFreak: DVDFab has failed to cease its operations in the U.S. and should be sanctioned, AACS says. The decryption licensing outfit founded by Warner Bros, Disney, Microsoft, Intel and others, informs a New York federal court that DVDFab's parent company has blatantly ignored a permanent injunction that was issued last year. In 2014 decryption licensing outfit AACS LA initiated a renewed crackdown on DRM-circumvention software. The company, founded by a group of movie studios and technology partners, sued the makers of popular DVD and Blu-Ray ripping software DVDFab in a New York federal court. After a brief legal battle the court ruled in favor of AACS, issuing an injunction based on the argument that the "DVDFab Group" violates the DMCA's anti-circumvention clause, since their software can bypass DVD and Bluray encryption. Among other things, the injunction barred DVDFab from distributing its software in public and allowed AACS to seize a wide range of domain names. The crippling injunction seemed to work, but not for long. In a new court filing, AACS notes that the software vendor briefly blocked U.S. purchases but went back to business as usual soon after (PDF).

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  1. douche-nozzles injunction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can I go to court and get an injunction against AACS being douche-nozzles?

    1. Re:douche-nozzles injunction by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Informative

      Can I go to court and get an injunction against AACS being douche-nozzles?

      Already done... You see the AACS are ignoring the WTO order allowing them to pirate software directly to recoup online casino losses from the illegal US actions.

  2. put comey and these idiots in a room by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and let them fight it out.

    comey wants to outlaw encryption.

    that stupid trade group wants ONLY encryption.

    #include <popcorn.h>

    lol

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    1. Re:put comey and these idiots in a room by IMightB · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No he only wants to to ban it for the peasants. (ie us)

    2. Re:put comey and these idiots in a room by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's a great idea. Only a terrorist would want to use encryption. Perhaps the the entire R/MIAA should be sent to Gitmo.

      And I think we can make it revenue neutral, or even make a profit. We'll sell tickets to anyone who would like to waterboard them. After all, they must be hiding something on those disks. Why else would they encrypt them? Or people can pay to choose which song will be blasted in their cell. Kind of like a torture jukebox.

    3. Re:put comey and these idiots in a room by WolfgangVL · · Score: 2

      Kind of like a torture jukebox.

      This is my new favorite thing.

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    4. Re:put comey and these idiots in a room by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

      If the use of encryption is banned in the United States (for private individuals), terrorists will probably start mailing encrypted Blu-Ray disks, containing operational instructions, to each other. Suggested titles might include "Mullahs Gone Wild" and "Three Men and a Fatwah".

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  3. available everywhere but the publishers? by laurencetux · · Score: 2

    not knowing how good of a program it is but i would bet that the "Usual Suspects" have copies more or less at all times within hours of a new version coming out.

    This is like Jurassic Park and thinking those dinos would not breed.

    1. Re:available everywhere but the publishers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is a very useful program for making backups of your DVD & BluRay collection. That is their main selling point. Have used it for years. Saves the wear and tear on my disc collection and allows me to store them in a safe place. Then I can watch them with PowerDVD straight from my hard drive.

      And they do publish updates very soon after a new protection scheme comes out.

    2. Re:available everywhere but the publishers? by HiThere · · Score: 2

      Ok. That's a good reason for making it illegal. Copy protected media SHOULD be too inconvenient to use.

      Well, OK, that was a bit of a snark. But I refuse to buy any copy protected CD, DVD, or BluRay because I insist on backups and I prefer to obey the law. So if I can't get a version that isn't copy protected, I won't buy it. I've found that I haven't missed anything important.

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  4. dvd is useful - please fight by late_game_reviewer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have an authistic kid when mental problems. He doesn't give a shit about ads, their stupid dvd intro for 10 minutes. he just wants to play his dvd from disney. Just press play and BAM, his cartoon plays, nothing else, no ads, no intro nothing just the movie. So yeah, I copy all my dvd content, remove that fucking shitty drm my SON doesn't need and make a dvd or copy it to a usb and put it on his tablet so he doesn't freak out with ads, scream at me and probably has a wish to insert his tablet in my asshole by any means

    1. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You obviously don't have an authistic kid bud...

    2. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      The parents react as if they are meeting the definition of autistic, why would the children be any different? Its not genetic, its environmental in these cases.

      Autistic parents having autistic children is pretty much the goddamn definition of genetic, dumbass.

    3. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not autistic and I don't want to watch all those ads either. Who does?

    4. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by CCarrot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As another parent of an autistic kid, my reply to you, AC, is FUCK YOU!

      (and yes, I'm fully aware I'm posting as an AC as well, thanks for stating the bloody obvious!)

      Unfortunately, there persists this stubborn subset of morons in society that continue to believe that mental diseases are imaginary, so people with autism or clinical depression must be "faking it", that they just have to "toughen up" or some shit like that.

      Ironically enough, it's often these self same people who have a morally-outraged meltdown whenever they see a mom-n-pop store entrance that has a bit of a step up, or an elevator without braille on the floor selector buttons. Apparently it's absolutely vital for everyone to accommodate certain types of ability impairment, but accommodating other types is somehow 'babying' them.

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    5. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by DogDude · · Score: 2

      Just use DVD Shrink. Still works fine.

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    6. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by myowntrueself · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unfortunately, there persists this stubborn subset of morons in society that continue to believe that mental diseases are imaginary, so people with autism or clinical depression must be "faking it", that they just have to "toughen up" or some shit like that.

      Public perception of mental illness is just so very fucked up.

      Eg People might recall that there was a time when homosexuality was regarded as a mental illness. Nowadays we are 'enlightened' and homosexuality isn't generally regarded as a mental illness. No, these days people who "don't like homosexuality" are regarded as having a mental illness; there is a widespread belief that 'homophobia' is a real thing and that 'homophobes' really are phobic. Hey, if that WERE the case then these 'homophobes' should be given understanding and compassion, right? Because they are ill. But no, the LBGT community demand they be treated like criminals... Shoe is on the other foot, kind of thing.

      The world of the mental is such a huge fucking mystery to people, anything concerning the mental world just gets shrouded in so much mythology and misunderstanding and sheer lies, its a wonder we as a society can actually do anything positive at all with it.

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    7. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by PCM2 · · Score: 2

      I'm not autistic and I don't want to watch all those ads either. Who does?

      How about those auto-play ads on Blu-Ray discs that do nothing but tell you how great Blu-Ray discs are ... as in, not any specific titles, but the format itself. Uh ... guys? Hello?

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    8. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by myowntrueself · · Score: 3, Interesting

      there is a widespread belief that 'homophobia' is a real thing and that 'homophobes' really are phobic. Hey, if that WERE the case then these 'homophobes' should be given understanding and compassion, right? Because they are ill.

      No, you're selectively (and intentionally) imposing your own over-literal interpretation of the word "homophobia"- as if it was what everyone meant by the word- because it suits the flow of your argument.

      I appreciate that the persecuted-turned-hypocritical-persecutors narrative suits your rationalisation of a sense of victimhood (stemming from the fact it's not as socially acceptable to be a bigot in this respect as it used to be).

      However, when you need to selectively interpret the general meaning of words and twist the facts to suit that argument, it's rather obvious nonsense.

      You aren't getting my point. I'm simply illustrating how fucked up peoples perceptions of mental states are. To use the suffix 'phobia' in 'homophobia' shows a complete lack of understanding about the mental condition 'phobia'.

      Its a bit like gamers etc who use the term 'rape' not getting that rape isn't something to be taken lightly. They just don't get it.

      Same with people who refer to 'homophobes'. Do they even know what phobia is? Do they think a phobia is simple fear? Or are they just using the term 'phobia' as a perjorative? Either is wrong. You shouldn't use terms like phobia or rape or cancer in the pejorative, its offensive and inappropriate.

      If homophobia is a real phobia it should be treated as an illness. If homophobia is not a real phobia then this term should not be used at all. But people don't understand what phobia is AT ALL; they don't understand mental states or illnesses AT ALL.

      Get it now?

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    9. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by myowntrueself · · Score: 2

      You aren't getting my point. I'm simply illustrating how fucked up peoples perceptions of mental states are. To use the suffix 'phobia' in 'homophobia' shows a complete lack of understanding about the mental condition 'phobia'.

      Its a bit like gamers etc who use the term 'rape' not getting that rape isn't something to be taken lightly. They just don't get it.

      Same with people who refer to 'homophobes'. Do they even know what phobia is? Do they think a phobia is simple fear? Or are they just using the term 'phobia' as a perjorative? Either is wrong. You shouldn't use terms like phobia or rape or cancer in the pejorative, its offensive and inappropriate.

      If homophobia is a real phobia it should be treated as an illness. If homophobia is not a real phobia then this term should not be used at all. But people don't understand what phobia is AT ALL; they don't understand mental states or illnesses AT ALL.

      Get it now?

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    10. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by BronsCon · · Score: 2

      it therefore follows that no children are autistic.

      Uhm, I think you've perhaps not read BitZtream's entire post. If you'd made it just past the half-way point, you'd have read the following:

      YES, there are children with real social issues, but thats a small percentage of the ones diagnosed as such.

      And he's spot on about the vast majority of "autistic" kids, as well as the actual autistic kids.

      Proof? I happen to know a couple, serial foster parents, who take in diagnosed autistic children as they enter the family services (family court) system, until they find a permanent adoptive home of reach legal age and become wards of the state. Last I'd heard, they'd fostered over 15 "diagnosed autistic" kids and, of those, 12 diagnoses were reversed within a year of them taking custody and imparting some structure, guidance, and (gentle) discipline into their lives. Now, these are kids the state gave them custody of with the explicit direction that, because they had a diagnosed mental condition, they must visit a psychotherapist at least once per month for the duration of their custody; if the reversal of a prior diagnosis was incorrect, there are 12 opportunities per year for the diagnosis to be re-applied. And it's the state providing mental health services as the children are technically wards of the state; it's not one doctor trying to save his reputation, it's whoever's available at the clinic the day of the appointment.

      I don't have documentation because, on top of being private medical records, it's tied up in the family services system and I'm not directly involved so I can't get my hands on that; you can take my word for it or not, doesn't really matter to me. If you do take me on my word, though, that's an 80% false positive rate, which is pretty much in line with BitZtream's comment.

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    11. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      It's even better when those are on DVDs, telling you about the crystal clear picture and sound quality that you get on BluRay, while showing you the picture and sound from a DVD. I always get to the end of those thinking 'DVD quality is pretty good. What was that other thing you were talking about and why should I care?'

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    12. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by driblio · · Score: 2

      Homophobia is a word. It does not mean fear of gay people. Are hydrophobic coatings afraid of water? No. http://www.grammarphobia.com/b...

  5. Hmmm by MitchDev · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Shouldn't the FBI and NSA be arrested for trying to circumvent the encryption on iPhones?

    1. Re:Hmmm by suutar · · Score: 2

      unfortunately, the reverse engineering clause is about programs, not data. Ripping for use on a different platform is more on the fair use side, except that in the DeCSS case the judge decided that if Congress had meant fair use to apply to that they'd have said so. Legislation has been proposed to address that; I'm sure the RIAA has opposed it vehemently, and that their opposition is why such legislation hasn't passed. *sigh*

    2. Re:Hmmm by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      It wouldn't matter anyway. Even if you accept the ripping is fair use, distribution of the tools to do the ripping is still illegal. It's one of those ugly legal contradictions where you technically have a the right to do something, but have no legal means of exercising it.

  6. When the gov't waves the DMCA stick... by BlytheBowman · · Score: 2

    Sit back and think of Russia (servers)

  7. Re:They should accept bitcoins by jedidiah · · Score: 2

    They could also liberate the whole thing and let the cat completely out of the bag. Scorch the earth behind them as they retreat.

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  8. Good luck with that by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    DVDFab is made by a Chinese company and you know just how much of a fuck China gives about this.

    1. Re:Good luck with that by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 2

      DVDFab is made by a Chinese company and you know just how much of a fuck China gives about this.

      Exactly.....zero....

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  9. US courts over-reach? by ukoda · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Slashdot summary and the article both fail to mention what country DVDFab is in, but the linked domain implies they are in China. So what was the point of the American court telling them what to do? If the AACS want to shut them down they should be applying Chinese laws in a Chinese court, anything else is just theatrics.

  10. Once again only hurts paying customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The scene will always have access to dvd & bluray ripping software; it's their raison d'etre. Whether they write their own or use a third party one is immaterial, they won't stop until disks are entirely obsolete.

    Customers, on the other hand, want to be able to rip their disk so they can watch it on a mobile device, stream it over their network or simply have a large movie collection without having to find somewhere to store hundreds of fragile plastic drinks coasters (whose dye starts breaking down after several years potentially rendering them useless).

    Once you start making ripping a disk harder than finding an 'illegal' download of the movie then people will simply drop buying the (now useless) disk in favor of a download which can be format shifted, streamed and stored far more easily.

    1. Re:Once again only hurts paying customers by Cley+Faye · · Score: 2

      Granted, I gave up on these "services", but last time I checked the movies available from publisher's offers were seriously compressed, had DRM making them more or less useless on most devices I use, and lacked most of the content I wanted to see (bonus, obviously, but in some case the original audio track was not available... wtf).
      On the other hand, I plop a disc in my computer, click a button, wait an hour and *everything* is available within a click, with no forced trailers, no "stealin is bad" disclaimer, no menu that takes longer to operate than the actual movie, etc. But the main thing: I buy the damn disc, and I have to get a chinese software to use said disc in an effective way. And that's more efficient than any online service I've seen so far.

  11. Only hurting legit sales by Deathlok's+Bear · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone who wants to crack dvd/bluray encryption for piracy is going to do it with or without commercial programs like dvdfab.

    The only reason I still buy movies on disc is so I can rip them to my media server and *store* the physical media.
    No needing to go dig up discs, worry about scratches, etc. If I want to take a movie with me, I just transcode it to my phone.

    Not only is it more convenient, but it gets around a lot of licensing issues with streaming media where companies let the license lapse and it becomes unavailable online.

    As a consumer, I want to consume my media when and how I want. Nuts to anyone who wants to restrict my rights to watch something I've already paid for.

    So, as a legal user of dvdfab, I hope they keep doing what they're doing.

  12. Good Advertising by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm considering going and buying a copy now.

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    1. Re:Good Advertising by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

      Agreed.

      Though, really, this is one of the reasons that I don't own a single DVD or Blueray disc.

      If I really want to watch something I will rent it from Redbox for $1.50, thanks.

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    2. Re:Good Advertising by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Informative

      A few weeks back I attempted to purchase it because the consensus among friends is it's the best to convert my home library to my media server.

      For ripping and converting video, I've found that MKV + Handbrake works really nicely, and it's free.
      http://www.makemkv.com/
      I wish more people knew about it instead of those stupid clones that come up better in search results and ask for money.

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  13. Re:DEC logo by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Somewhere along the long line of people who have owned and operated slashdot, the site administration has lost all of the people who had any idea what DEC was. Since it has the word "digital" in it, the current editors assume the icon can go with anything digital, like Digital Millennium Copyright Act

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  14. Re:DEC logo by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 3, Funny

    The probably think Wang Laboratories is/was a penis enhancement company. :P

  15. Re:Is it just me or by Zak3056 · · Score: 2

    I Think it is time for an armed revolution

    No you don't. You just want strangers on the Internet to think you do.

    I agree with your assessment. I'm a firm believer in the 2nd amendment, but I'm pretty horrified when someone suggests we need it due to something as trivial as copyright law. Anybody advocating for an armed revolution should think long and hard about the last time we did that, and at modern examples. The outcome would be catastrophic (even if (or maybe especially if) "the people" "won"), and one need look no further than somewhere like Syria to see the template for their new life.

    That's not to say I advocate the relative comfort of slavery over a just war of independence, but there is a reason "the cartridge box" is listed last of the four boxes of liberty. All other options MUST be exhausted first.

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  16. The US has no juristiction. by sg_oneill · · Score: 3, Informative

    Looking at DVDFabs about pages, it leads to a chinese company called Fengtao Software Inc from the Haidian district in Beijing.

    They have no obligation at all to comply with this, because they are not an american company at all.

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  17. Re:Stupid question by HiThere · · Score: 2

    IIUC, China is not a party to the TPP.

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  18. Re:DEC logo by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

    that's just fucking sad.

    Digital was part of computer history and if you are ANY kind of computer science person, not knowing what DEC was means you are not really educated. it was too important a company to have not known about.

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