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DVDFab Has Ignored Court's Shut Down Order, AACS Says (torrentfreak.com)

An anonymous reader cites a report on TorrentFreak: DVDFab has failed to cease its operations in the U.S. and should be sanctioned, AACS says. The decryption licensing outfit founded by Warner Bros, Disney, Microsoft, Intel and others, informs a New York federal court that DVDFab's parent company has blatantly ignored a permanent injunction that was issued last year. In 2014 decryption licensing outfit AACS LA initiated a renewed crackdown on DRM-circumvention software. The company, founded by a group of movie studios and technology partners, sued the makers of popular DVD and Blu-Ray ripping software DVDFab in a New York federal court. After a brief legal battle the court ruled in favor of AACS, issuing an injunction based on the argument that the "DVDFab Group" violates the DMCA's anti-circumvention clause, since their software can bypass DVD and Bluray encryption. Among other things, the injunction barred DVDFab from distributing its software in public and allowed AACS to seize a wide range of domain names. The crippling injunction seemed to work, but not for long. In a new court filing, AACS notes that the software vendor briefly blocked U.S. purchases but went back to business as usual soon after (PDF).

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  1. douche-nozzles injunction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can I go to court and get an injunction against AACS being douche-nozzles?

    1. Re:douche-nozzles injunction by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Informative

      Can I go to court and get an injunction against AACS being douche-nozzles?

      Already done... You see the AACS are ignoring the WTO order allowing them to pirate software directly to recoup online casino losses from the illegal US actions.

    2. Re:douche-nozzles injunction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As far as I can see DVDFab doesn't even have a US "operation". AACS is whining because people in the US can buy and download the software from the DVDFab site.

      DVDFab is under no obligation to block anyone from their site. AACS and the US government has precisely zero authority over them.

    3. Re:douche-nozzles injunction by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      The US violated trade agreements against antigua, and lots at the WTO. And DVDFab is based in Antigua... (Probably for this exact reason) http://patentlyo.com/patent/20...

  2. put comey and these idiots in a room by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and let them fight it out.

    comey wants to outlaw encryption.

    that stupid trade group wants ONLY encryption.

    #include <popcorn.h>

    lol

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    1. Re:put comey and these idiots in a room by IMightB · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No he only wants to to ban it for the peasants. (ie us)

    2. Re:put comey and these idiots in a room by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's a great idea. Only a terrorist would want to use encryption. Perhaps the the entire R/MIAA should be sent to Gitmo.

      And I think we can make it revenue neutral, or even make a profit. We'll sell tickets to anyone who would like to waterboard them. After all, they must be hiding something on those disks. Why else would they encrypt them? Or people can pay to choose which song will be blasted in their cell. Kind of like a torture jukebox.

    3. Re:put comey and these idiots in a room by WolfgangVL · · Score: 2

      Kind of like a torture jukebox.

      This is my new favorite thing.

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    4. Re:put comey and these idiots in a room by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

      If the use of encryption is banned in the United States (for private individuals), terrorists will probably start mailing encrypted Blu-Ray disks, containing operational instructions, to each other. Suggested titles might include "Mullahs Gone Wild" and "Three Men and a Fatwah".

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    5. Re: put comey and these idiots in a room by bursch-X · · Score: 1

      Apple is offering the Evil Genius(TM) service that'll analyze your iTunes DB and find exactly the songs you can't stand. They bundle it with their new iBoard waterboarding device available in 7 exciting colours.

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    6. Re:put comey and these idiots in a room by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1
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  3. Evil Empire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

  4. available everywhere but the publishers? by laurencetux · · Score: 2

    not knowing how good of a program it is but i would bet that the "Usual Suspects" have copies more or less at all times within hours of a new version coming out.

    This is like Jurassic Park and thinking those dinos would not breed.

    1. Re:available everywhere but the publishers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is a very useful program for making backups of your DVD & BluRay collection. That is their main selling point. Have used it for years. Saves the wear and tear on my disc collection and allows me to store them in a safe place. Then I can watch them with PowerDVD straight from my hard drive.

      And they do publish updates very soon after a new protection scheme comes out.

    2. Re:available everywhere but the publishers? by HiThere · · Score: 2

      Ok. That's a good reason for making it illegal. Copy protected media SHOULD be too inconvenient to use.

      Well, OK, that was a bit of a snark. But I refuse to buy any copy protected CD, DVD, or BluRay because I insist on backups and I prefer to obey the law. So if I can't get a version that isn't copy protected, I won't buy it. I've found that I haven't missed anything important.

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  5. dvd is useful - please fight by late_game_reviewer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have an authistic kid when mental problems. He doesn't give a shit about ads, their stupid dvd intro for 10 minutes. he just wants to play his dvd from disney. Just press play and BAM, his cartoon plays, nothing else, no ads, no intro nothing just the movie. So yeah, I copy all my dvd content, remove that fucking shitty drm my SON doesn't need and make a dvd or copy it to a usb and put it on his tablet so he doesn't freak out with ads, scream at me and probably has a wish to insert his tablet in my asshole by any means

    1. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You obviously don't have an authistic kid bud...

    2. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Being exposed to commercials isn't good for anyone.

      Your argument could pretty much be applied to any aspect of technological progress from the last 500 years. Your theocratic notion of self-flagellation is outdated already.

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    3. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Your theocratic notion of self-flagellation is outdated already.

      Sure is a lot easier on you that way isn't it ... oh wait ... that was exactly his point, way to prove it for him.

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    4. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      The parents react as if they are meeting the definition of autistic, why would the children be any different? Its not genetic, its environmental in these cases.

      Autistic parents having autistic children is pretty much the goddamn definition of genetic, dumbass.

    5. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not autistic and I don't want to watch all those ads either. Who does?

    6. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by CCarrot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As another parent of an autistic kid, my reply to you, AC, is FUCK YOU!

      (and yes, I'm fully aware I'm posting as an AC as well, thanks for stating the bloody obvious!)

      Unfortunately, there persists this stubborn subset of morons in society that continue to believe that mental diseases are imaginary, so people with autism or clinical depression must be "faking it", that they just have to "toughen up" or some shit like that.

      Ironically enough, it's often these self same people who have a morally-outraged meltdown whenever they see a mom-n-pop store entrance that has a bit of a step up, or an elevator without braille on the floor selector buttons. Apparently it's absolutely vital for everyone to accommodate certain types of ability impairment, but accommodating other types is somehow 'babying' them.

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    7. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Threni · · Score: 1

      I think you've perhaps read The Psychopath Test or something and decided from that that because a lot of people have children who are incorrectly diagnosed autistic, that it therefore follows that no children are autistic. If so than you are incorrect, because there are perfectly meaning, consistent and useful tests for autism which can help prevent a child from being treated like a bad person, or retarded, or whatever.

      You sound like you believe you're very intelligent, though, so you probably won't stop and think about this.

    8. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by CCarrot · · Score: 1

      I'm not autistic and I don't want to watch all those ads either. Who does?

      Advertising monkeys checking out the competition, maybe?

      Other than that, I have no earthly idea...

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    9. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by DogDude · · Score: 2

      Just use DVD Shrink. Still works fine.

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    10. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by doconnor · · Score: 1

      I know Disney was bad at first, but for at least the last 10 years Disney DVDs give an explicit option to skip ads.

    11. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by myowntrueself · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unfortunately, there persists this stubborn subset of morons in society that continue to believe that mental diseases are imaginary, so people with autism or clinical depression must be "faking it", that they just have to "toughen up" or some shit like that.

      Public perception of mental illness is just so very fucked up.

      Eg People might recall that there was a time when homosexuality was regarded as a mental illness. Nowadays we are 'enlightened' and homosexuality isn't generally regarded as a mental illness. No, these days people who "don't like homosexuality" are regarded as having a mental illness; there is a widespread belief that 'homophobia' is a real thing and that 'homophobes' really are phobic. Hey, if that WERE the case then these 'homophobes' should be given understanding and compassion, right? Because they are ill. But no, the LBGT community demand they be treated like criminals... Shoe is on the other foot, kind of thing.

      The world of the mental is such a huge fucking mystery to people, anything concerning the mental world just gets shrouded in so much mythology and misunderstanding and sheer lies, its a wonder we as a society can actually do anything positive at all with it.

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    12. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Bingo! When I was a kid there was no such thing as autism because parents didn't put up with tantrums or misbehaving. Sorry if that offends you, but the reason there are so many assholes now is because parents these days don't give a fuck about raising a well balanced individual.

    13. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by phorm · · Score: 1

      Well I'm fairly sure that I'm a *hell* of a lot older than his kid, and personally *I* don't want to sit through 10 minutes of advertisements for crap that I don't want just to watch a DVD I bought and paid for. In some cases the ads are actually for the f'ing movie I'm about to watch (albeit in a different format) and show spoilers!

      There are some things worth waiting for, and worth waiting through. Shit like DRM-enforced unskippable ads are *NOT* in that list. One of the high points of DVD was supposed to be "no rewinding"... but you pretty much lose the point of that if it still takes 10 minutes of crap to get to the actual content.

    14. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by PCM2 · · Score: 2

      I'm not autistic and I don't want to watch all those ads either. Who does?

      How about those auto-play ads on Blu-Ray discs that do nothing but tell you how great Blu-Ray discs are ... as in, not any specific titles, but the format itself. Uh ... guys? Hello?

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    15. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Simple explanation: borderline autistic men and women have been gathered together in the Silicon Valley to work on tech projects, and they are now having sex and breeding. Get the autistic predisposition gene from both parents, and you tend to be much more autistic. Like most syndromes, it is a continuum, and only truly considered "autism" when it becomes bad enough to be disabling. Minor autism is actually an _advantage_ in writing software, as is minor OCD. I think I just have the OCD trait, Unfortunately, I appear to have passed it on to my daughter.

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    16. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Eg People might recall that there was a time when homosexuality was regarded as a mental illness. Nowadays we are 'enlightened' and homosexuality isn't generally regarded as a mental illness. No, these days people who "don't like homosexuality" are regarded as having a mental illness; there is a widespread belief that 'homophobia' is a real thing and that 'homophobes' really are phobic. Hey, if that WERE the case then these 'homophobes' should be given understanding and compassion, right? Because they are ill. But no, the LBGT community demand they be treated like criminals... Shoe is on the other foot, kind of thing.

      I'm pretty sure that if people actually saw it as a mental illness, they wouldn't make a big stink about it. It's not like anybody thinks you'll become autistic, schizophrenic or psychotic by hanging around people that are autistic, schizophrenic or psychotic. Homophobes act like it's some kind of contagious disease you can catch by being around gay people. Or that people have a wicked part of their soul prone to sin and gays are those that have joined the dark side. Where else but religion can you find a group that think you should burn in hell for eternity without being designated a hate group?

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    17. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      ...said no one ever.

      Seriously, you've invented a very specific kind of fake person for your argument.

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    18. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How is homophobia not a real thing?

      I don't hate gays, I have friends that are gay, intellectually the concept doesn't bother me, but when I see something gay like two guys kissing or a transexual, I feel an automatic disgust and cringe. That is not something I have any more control over than when I eat certain foods and they make me feel sick like smoked chicken.

      I can see why, if someone less self critical and contemplating had the same natural involuntary reaction,they would conclude that homosexuality is unnatural and evil and go off to join the bible thumping brigade.

    19. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by CCarrot · · Score: 1

      ...said no one ever.

      Seriously, you've invented a very specific kind of fake person for your argument.

      Which part? The ones who claim mental diseases aren't real, or the ones who call the city and report stores for not being wheelchair accessible?

      I have personally witnessed both behaviors from the same person, and more than once (i.e., different people on different occasions). I don't think the hypocrisy of their world view even registers with them...maybe it's not terribly 'often', but it is ironic (and somewhat amusing) when it happens.

      Quick exercise for you: Next time someone starts spouting off about how people shouldn't be diagnosed for (and apparently more importantly, get sick time off to deal with) depression or related illnesses, try asking them how they feel about wheelchair ramps, and whether *every* business should be required to install them. Or if not every business, then which ones have to and which don't? Then grab the popcorn and watch the high-wire act begin.

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    20. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by bored · · Score: 1

      Yah, disney fastplay, does a great job of teaching kids about doublespeak.

      http://www.ew.com/article/2007...

    21. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by myowntrueself · · Score: 3, Interesting

      there is a widespread belief that 'homophobia' is a real thing and that 'homophobes' really are phobic. Hey, if that WERE the case then these 'homophobes' should be given understanding and compassion, right? Because they are ill.

      No, you're selectively (and intentionally) imposing your own over-literal interpretation of the word "homophobia"- as if it was what everyone meant by the word- because it suits the flow of your argument.

      I appreciate that the persecuted-turned-hypocritical-persecutors narrative suits your rationalisation of a sense of victimhood (stemming from the fact it's not as socially acceptable to be a bigot in this respect as it used to be).

      However, when you need to selectively interpret the general meaning of words and twist the facts to suit that argument, it's rather obvious nonsense.

      You aren't getting my point. I'm simply illustrating how fucked up peoples perceptions of mental states are. To use the suffix 'phobia' in 'homophobia' shows a complete lack of understanding about the mental condition 'phobia'.

      Its a bit like gamers etc who use the term 'rape' not getting that rape isn't something to be taken lightly. They just don't get it.

      Same with people who refer to 'homophobes'. Do they even know what phobia is? Do they think a phobia is simple fear? Or are they just using the term 'phobia' as a perjorative? Either is wrong. You shouldn't use terms like phobia or rape or cancer in the pejorative, its offensive and inappropriate.

      If homophobia is a real phobia it should be treated as an illness. If homophobia is not a real phobia then this term should not be used at all. But people don't understand what phobia is AT ALL; they don't understand mental states or illnesses AT ALL.

      Get it now?

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    22. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by myowntrueself · · Score: 2

      You aren't getting my point. I'm simply illustrating how fucked up peoples perceptions of mental states are. To use the suffix 'phobia' in 'homophobia' shows a complete lack of understanding about the mental condition 'phobia'.

      Its a bit like gamers etc who use the term 'rape' not getting that rape isn't something to be taken lightly. They just don't get it.

      Same with people who refer to 'homophobes'. Do they even know what phobia is? Do they think a phobia is simple fear? Or are they just using the term 'phobia' as a perjorative? Either is wrong. You shouldn't use terms like phobia or rape or cancer in the pejorative, its offensive and inappropriate.

      If homophobia is a real phobia it should be treated as an illness. If homophobia is not a real phobia then this term should not be used at all. But people don't understand what phobia is AT ALL; they don't understand mental states or illnesses AT ALL.

      Get it now?

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    23. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      The parents react as if they are meeting the definition of autistic, why would the children be any different? Its not genetic, its environmental in these cases.

      Autistic parents having autistic children is pretty much the goddamn definition of genetic, dumbass.

      That's not what he meant. He's describing neurotic parents having neurotic children, and assuming that sufficient neuroses are indistinguishable from autism.

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    24. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by BronsCon · · Score: 2

      it therefore follows that no children are autistic.

      Uhm, I think you've perhaps not read BitZtream's entire post. If you'd made it just past the half-way point, you'd have read the following:

      YES, there are children with real social issues, but thats a small percentage of the ones diagnosed as such.

      And he's spot on about the vast majority of "autistic" kids, as well as the actual autistic kids.

      Proof? I happen to know a couple, serial foster parents, who take in diagnosed autistic children as they enter the family services (family court) system, until they find a permanent adoptive home of reach legal age and become wards of the state. Last I'd heard, they'd fostered over 15 "diagnosed autistic" kids and, of those, 12 diagnoses were reversed within a year of them taking custody and imparting some structure, guidance, and (gentle) discipline into their lives. Now, these are kids the state gave them custody of with the explicit direction that, because they had a diagnosed mental condition, they must visit a psychotherapist at least once per month for the duration of their custody; if the reversal of a prior diagnosis was incorrect, there are 12 opportunities per year for the diagnosis to be re-applied. And it's the state providing mental health services as the children are technically wards of the state; it's not one doctor trying to save his reputation, it's whoever's available at the clinic the day of the appointment.

      I don't have documentation because, on top of being private medical records, it's tied up in the family services system and I'm not directly involved so I can't get my hands on that; you can take my word for it or not, doesn't really matter to me. If you do take me on my word, though, that's an 80% false positive rate, which is pretty much in line with BitZtream's comment.

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    25. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      You can buy the DVD, paying the MAFIAA and letting them use your money for evil, then you commit a crime by ripping the DVD. Or, you could just obtain a non-DRM copy from captain Anakata. I'd say the latter option is strictly better.

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    26. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by piojo · · Score: 1

      It sounds like you're just really good at labeling people as autistic. I'm surprised your numbers aren't higher.

      Besides, that doesn't sound like autism, though it was admittedly a very brief description.

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    27. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      It's even better when those are on DVDs, telling you about the crystal clear picture and sound quality that you get on BluRay, while showing you the picture and sound from a DVD. I always get to the end of those thinking 'DVD quality is pretty good. What was that other thing you were talking about and why should I care?'

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    28. Re: dvd is useful - please fight by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Given that it's AACS, I imagine that it's because they're also backing up BluRay. I have a BD burner in a FreeBSD box that I bought for backups (and never actually used, but that's a different story - it was only marginally more expensive than a DVD drive), so when I received a BluRay disk for Christmas I thought that I'd be able to play it. Apparently not - it used to be possible with VLC but they changed something in the encryption and now it isn't. There is no open source software that can play BDs reliably (there's a Linux thing that sends some SCSI commands directly to the drive from userspace and might work, or might brick your drive) and only a couple of commercial programs that can copy them.

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    29. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      It sounds like you've hit the stuff that they put in to plug the analogue hole. If you don't have DRM-compatible everything on the display path (drivers, graphics card, cable, monitor) then it downgrade the quality to SD. This also applies for VGA and composite output. Lots of early adopters were pissed off by this after buying expensive HD TVs with composite input and then discovering that they couldn't see HD content from BluRay without buying a new TV (or a dubiously legal convertor box).

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    30. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by xrobertcmx · · Score: 1

      Have you even met real autistic children? I am talking about the ones who break furniture due to rocking back and forth, that have word perfect recall of every conversation you ever had with them but can not tolerate the slightest change in routine. They do tend to lash out and it is not easily controlled. I can see removing adverts for them. Some can function and hold down simple jobs, others will eventually need to be institutionalized. I have one of each in my family.

    31. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by xrobertcmx · · Score: 1

      The rise in numbers has a lot of associated factors, one is people simply having children later in life. Also, it is frequently not diagnosed until the age of 2. Some markers can be identified earlier, even in pregnancy, but most of the time it is later. This is part of what drove the anti-vax movement. Couples over 40 need to rethink that "Let's go have Kids" moment. The risk is through the roof.

    32. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Sebby · · Score: 1

      You're obviously the nut job, buddy.

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    33. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by driblio · · Score: 2

      Homophobia is a word. It does not mean fear of gay people. Are hydrophobic coatings afraid of water? No. http://www.grammarphobia.com/b...

    34. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      Homophobia is a word. It does not mean fear of gay people. Are hydrophobic coatings afraid of water? No.

      http://www.grammarphobia.com/b...

      Still not getting it...

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    35. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      How is homophobia not a real thing?

      I didn't claim that "homophobia wasn't a real thing".

      Are you claiming that you're considered "mentally ill" and in need of treatment in the same way that homosexuals once were as a result of your feelings? If not, then that's the point that was being made.

      (Disclaimer; the comment you're replying to was mine- I meant to post it while I was logged in).

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    36. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Okay. Then my point partly aligns (and partly doesn't) with yours- that the "phobia" in "homophobia" *isn't* being used in the medical sense, but as a term meaning more general fear or revulsion. For that reason, it's inaccurate to suggest that "homophobes" have ever- for the most part- been considered mentally ill.

      Thus while changing attitudes towards homosexuals- who once *were* considered mentally ill- says something about changing attitudes towards mental illness itself, modern use the term "homophobe" says very little. One might argue (as you apparently do) that it's misuse of a medical term, but it's precisely because that term *is* being misused that it says nothing about mental illness.

      (Disclaimer; the comment you're replying to was mine- I meant to post it while I was logged in).

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    37. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Not wanting to watch adverts makes your child a terrorist. The SWAT team will be along shortly to take the little communist away to a re-education camp.

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    38. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Nobody will tolerate that shit ... nobody.

      And hence sufferers of extreme cases qualify for disability allowances. Because you know ... autism is actually a thing and not just a case of a badly behaved kid with a bad upbringing.

    39. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      Okay. Then my point partly aligns (and partly doesn't) with yours- that the "phobia" in "homophobia" *isn't* being used in the medical sense, but as a term meaning more general fear or revulsion. For that reason, it's inaccurate to suggest that "homophobes" have ever- for the most part- been considered mentally ill.
       

      Indeed. The lack of understanding of the nature of mental states is so bad that many people actually believe that a phobic person is actually just afraid of something. They might even see a phobic persons response to the object of their phobia and think that they are overdoing it. They don't get that phobia is way way more than just being afraid of something, that it can be a debilitating condition.

      Hence, to many people, it seems totally reasonable to label someone who dislikes homosexuals as 'homophobic' without grasping the nature of the phenomenon that they are referring to.

      This dilutes the public perception of phobia even more. It devalues the term and belittles the people who suffer from genuine phobias. Just as a gamer saying "Dude you got totally raped!" dilutes and belittles the term 'rape'.

      Its not that the modern use of the term 'homophobe' says anything about mental illness; its that it says something about lack of awareness of mental illness.

      (disclaimer: I'm not phobic, in fact I may have a 'fear deficit disorder').

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    40. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      I wonder that if you get an imported european DVD, maybe the ads aren't unskippable? I don't remember such ads on DVD but that was 10 years ago and over.

      Alternatively I wonder why a DVD player feels it has to obey "unskippable" directives.. Region coding, I know every player ended up ignoring except maybe in the US where you found the "regulatory" pressure to honor it.

    41. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by driblio · · Score: 1

      No one except you is using the word phobia to talk about disliking gays. If you don't get it, that's fine, everyone else knows what the perfectly cromulant word means.

    42. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by vandamme · · Score: 1

      Well, I watch the Super Bowl ads and shut it off during the game....

    43. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      No one except you is using the word phobia to talk about disliking gays. If you don't get it, that's fine, everyone else knows what the perfectly cromulant word means.

      And no one but you is getting butthurt over it.

      'homophobia' includes 'phobia', show some respect for people with genuine mental issues. See what I mean? You are part of the problem that was originally described in the post I responded to; lack of comprehension of actual mental health issues. You probably think that people suffering severe depression are just sad.

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    44. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by driblio · · Score: 1

      No, I just know that homophobia is not a phobia. Simple really.

    45. Re:dvd is useful - please fight by phorm · · Score: 1

      "Alternatively I wonder why a DVD player feels it has to obey "unskippable" directives"

      Actually, the funny thing is that most brand-name players will obey the no-skip directive, but the cheaper models actually didn't bother.

  6. Hmmm by MitchDev · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Shouldn't the FBI and NSA be arrested for trying to circumvent the encryption on iPhones?

    1. Re:Hmmm by kimvette · · Score: 1

      it also has allowances for interoperability, which ripping for use on a tablet or phone or home media server quite obviously is.

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    2. Re:Hmmm by suutar · · Score: 2

      unfortunately, the reverse engineering clause is about programs, not data. Ripping for use on a different platform is more on the fair use side, except that in the DeCSS case the judge decided that if Congress had meant fair use to apply to that they'd have said so. Legislation has been proposed to address that; I'm sure the RIAA has opposed it vehemently, and that their opposition is why such legislation hasn't passed. *sigh*

    3. Re:Hmmm by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      It wouldn't matter anyway. Even if you accept the ripping is fair use, distribution of the tools to do the ripping is still illegal. It's one of those ugly legal contradictions where you technically have a the right to do something, but have no legal means of exercising it.

    4. Re:Hmmm by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Yes, they should. But they helped write the law, so they can't be.

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    5. Re:Hmmm by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Next time you talk to an elected representative, point out that Apple had a DVD ripping feature in iTunes ready to go a decade ago, but never shipped it because the CSS license didn't allow ripping and the DMCA prevented them from doing it anyway. Point out that we'd have had the ability to rip DVDs to play on mobile devices just as easily as we do for CDs for years if not for legislation that exists solely to harm the economy as a whole to protect a fairly small segment of it.

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    6. Re:Hmmm by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      Long overdue for American Revolution 2.0 anyway....

  7. When the gov't waves the DMCA stick... by BlytheBowman · · Score: 2

    Sit back and think of Russia (servers)

  8. DEC logo by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

    What does the DEC logo have to do with anything?

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    1. Re:DEC logo by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 1

      That's what I wondered, and clicking the logo to filter by stories marked with it shows a lot of stories that neither have the logo or a tag of digital, bug perhaps?

    2. Re:DEC logo by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Somewhere along the long line of people who have owned and operated slashdot, the site administration has lost all of the people who had any idea what DEC was. Since it has the word "digital" in it, the current editors assume the icon can go with anything digital, like Digital Millennium Copyright Act

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    3. Re:DEC logo by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 3, Funny

      The probably think Wang Laboratories is/was a penis enhancement company. :P

    4. Re:DEC logo by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      What, you expect the /. editors to do their job?

      LOL

      That's funny.

    5. Re:DEC logo by Koen+Lefever · · Score: 1

      the site administration has lost all of the people who had any idea what DEC was.

      The good thing about all this is that nobody gets confused between DEC and DR any more.

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    6. Re:DEC logo by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      that's just fucking sad.

      Digital was part of computer history and if you are ANY kind of computer science person, not knowing what DEC was means you are not really educated. it was too important a company to have not known about.

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  9. Wonder if AACS has been knocking on all their door by ryanmetcalf · · Score: 1

    Looks like I can trip, fall, and run into a huge pile of options besides DVDFab
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  10. Re:They should accept bitcoins by jedidiah · · Score: 2

    They could also liberate the whole thing and let the cat completely out of the bag. Scorch the earth behind them as they retreat.

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  11. Good luck with that by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    DVDFab is made by a Chinese company and you know just how much of a fuck China gives about this.

    1. Re:Good luck with that by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 2

      DVDFab is made by a Chinese company and you know just how much of a fuck China gives about this.

      Exactly.....zero....

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    2. Re:Good luck with that by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      DVDFab is made by a Chinese company and you know just how much of a fuck China gives about this.

      I believe that can be answered in a song.

    3. Re:Good luck with that by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

      If they are not an American company, they should absolutely ignore US courts and US laws.

      They are not the world police though they seem too clueless to know that. Suck it up.

    4. Re:Good luck with that by Cley+Faye · · Score: 1

      And for once, I'm happy about it. What's the point of fighting a software that requires the actual disc to be bought to work? Does the publishers really want people to go for the "convenient and cheap" way so bad?
      The power these mobs^W associations have in their own countries is bad enough for the consumers, let's not move them to the international level.

    5. Re:Good luck with that by Holi · · Score: 1

      Holy crap that sucks. A talent-less hack getting my by flaunting her ass.
      I'm sure China is more like this.

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    6. Re:Good luck with that by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      Exactly AACS's argument is that because of the injunction DVDfab should be actively blocking US ip addresses. I guess when you live in a world where everything you do is geoblocked you can't see any other solution.

    7. Re:Good luck with that by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Holy crap that sucks. A talent-less hack getting my by flaunting her ass.

      Agreed. But sadly she has had 8 number one singles on the billboard dance club charts. It doesn't say much for peoples taste in music these days.

  12. Re:Is it just me or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I Think it is time for an armed revolution

    No you don't. You just want strangers on the Internet to think you do.

  13. US courts over-reach? by ukoda · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Slashdot summary and the article both fail to mention what country DVDFab is in, but the linked domain implies they are in China. So what was the point of the American court telling them what to do? If the AACS want to shut them down they should be applying Chinese laws in a Chinese court, anything else is just theatrics.

  14. Once again only hurts paying customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The scene will always have access to dvd & bluray ripping software; it's their raison d'etre. Whether they write their own or use a third party one is immaterial, they won't stop until disks are entirely obsolete.

    Customers, on the other hand, want to be able to rip their disk so they can watch it on a mobile device, stream it over their network or simply have a large movie collection without having to find somewhere to store hundreds of fragile plastic drinks coasters (whose dye starts breaking down after several years potentially rendering them useless).

    Once you start making ripping a disk harder than finding an 'illegal' download of the movie then people will simply drop buying the (now useless) disk in favor of a download which can be format shifted, streamed and stored far more easily.

    1. Re:Once again only hurts paying customers by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      It's taken Hollywood a long time, but they are actually answering this demand right now. Being able to rip DVDs and BDs is still necessary for (many) older titles, but in general if you want a version of a movie that you can access from a menu on your TV, or download onto a tablet for offline viewing, that's possible with virtually all new releases and probably all movies released or rereleased in the last 3-5 years, and many others.

      Before the inevitable complaints, I'm not saying what they're offering is perfect, or that it's not overpriced or anything like that, but the argument "They're ignoring the market by not allowing ${ILLEGALTOOL} to provide ${LEGITIMATESERVICE}" is weakening. Support for non-mainstream platforms and the right to a back-up are still elusive, but (limited) format shifting and the video juke box is becoming a thing you can do legally.

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    2. Re:Once again only hurts paying customers by swb · · Score: 1

      The problem is what people want is a portable version that can be played on any device.

      A great example is a TV series. It's conceivable I might want to watch a given episode on any of 5 different devices in my house. No one download method works for all of them. And in some cases, I may want to downsample HD content to put on a physical DVD.

      I want the damn content in unencrypted format and not locked to a specific hardware platform or service.

    3. Re:Once again only hurts paying customers by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Whether they write their own or use a third party one is immaterial, they won't stop until disks are entirely obsolete.

      Why would they stop when disks are obsolete?

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    4. Re:Once again only hurts paying customers by Cley+Faye · · Score: 2

      Granted, I gave up on these "services", but last time I checked the movies available from publisher's offers were seriously compressed, had DRM making them more or less useless on most devices I use, and lacked most of the content I wanted to see (bonus, obviously, but in some case the original audio track was not available... wtf).
      On the other hand, I plop a disc in my computer, click a button, wait an hour and *everything* is available within a click, with no forced trailers, no "stealin is bad" disclaimer, no menu that takes longer to operate than the actual movie, etc. But the main thing: I buy the damn disc, and I have to get a chinese software to use said disc in an effective way. And that's more efficient than any online service I've seen so far.

    5. Re:Once again only hurts paying customers by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      in some case the original audio track was not available... wtf

      Betcha the studio paid for distribution rights to the soundtrack or incidental music for theater and DVD use, but not for streaming use.

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  15. DVDFab could make $$Millions by Blinkin1200 · · Score: 1

    DVDFab should add an option to decrypt iPhones, or images of iPhones. It doesn't really have to work, just a checkbox or menu entry where the user could select an iPhone or iPhone image.

    I think law enforcement in the USA would be lined up with wheelbarrows of cash to get the software. Wheelbarrows of Bitcoin may be safer if you are going to take the money and run.

  16. Only hurting legit sales by Deathlok's+Bear · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone who wants to crack dvd/bluray encryption for piracy is going to do it with or without commercial programs like dvdfab.

    The only reason I still buy movies on disc is so I can rip them to my media server and *store* the physical media.
    No needing to go dig up discs, worry about scratches, etc. If I want to take a movie with me, I just transcode it to my phone.

    Not only is it more convenient, but it gets around a lot of licensing issues with streaming media where companies let the license lapse and it becomes unavailable online.

    As a consumer, I want to consume my media when and how I want. Nuts to anyone who wants to restrict my rights to watch something I've already paid for.

    So, as a legal user of dvdfab, I hope they keep doing what they're doing.

  17. Good Advertising by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm considering going and buying a copy now.

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    1. Re:Good Advertising by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

      Agreed.

      Though, really, this is one of the reasons that I don't own a single DVD or Blueray disc.

      If I really want to watch something I will rent it from Redbox for $1.50, thanks.

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    2. Re:Good Advertising by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Informative

      A few weeks back I attempted to purchase it because the consensus among friends is it's the best to convert my home library to my media server.

      For ripping and converting video, I've found that MKV + Handbrake works really nicely, and it's free.
      http://www.makemkv.com/
      I wish more people knew about it instead of those stupid clones that come up better in search results and ask for money.

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    3. Re:Good Advertising by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Most of the DVDs I have are music and are not from the USA, where I live. So region coding is a barrier to my legitimate use of persons DVD imports protected under the Berne Convention.

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    4. Re:Good Advertising by lgw · · Score: 1

      Is MakeMKV the perma-Beta one you have to install every 30 days? It seems to run into more discs that it doesn't know how to decrypt than the paid guys. I had great success with AnyDVD for years, though I don't know yet about the new "Red Fox" (they claim to be the same team, just ignoring previous lifetime subscriptions are making people pay again, which is a bit shitty, but whatever.)

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    5. Re:Good Advertising by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and Handbrake can skip while it's ripping, too. Furthermore it doesn't handle the "Disney" style drm.
      That's why I suggest ripping with MKV, then converting to your desired format with Handbrake.

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    6. Re:Good Advertising by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      The need to accept bitcoin, don't they?

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    7. Re:Good Advertising by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      >> I've found that MKV + Handbrake.
      > I am pretty sure Handbrake does not decrypt.

      Reading. You might want to try it sometime. :-)

    8. Re:Good Advertising by eWarz · · Score: 1

      I've never had that issue, can you let me know what titles I should be concerned about? Recently ripped SWTFO for example.

    9. Re:Good Advertising by djbckr · · Score: 1

      Is MakeMKV the perma-Beta one you have to install every 30 days?

      Yes, that's the one. I've never really had a problem with it, and I like it so much I bought it. The developer could use the support (I'm pretty sure it's just one guy working on it - could be wrong tho)

    10. Re:Good Advertising by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Is MakeMKV the perma-Beta one you have to install every 30 days?

      I had great success with AnyDVD for years

      Are you implying you didn't need to get an update to AnyDVD every time a new movie came out? I certainly remember I did. That's the joyful world of AACS.

    11. Re:Good Advertising by lgw · · Score: 1

      Wait, you can pay for it now? Wow, that wasn't the case when I bought AnyDVD. I thought they were slipping under the radar thanks to not taking money (unlike AnyDVD and DVDFab, who face serious lawfare opposition).

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    12. Re:Good Advertising by lgw · · Score: 1

      MakeMKV used to take a long time to catch up after key rotation. Maybe they're doing better now. (BTW, Movie bought retail, Movie from Netflix, and Movie from Redbox all have different keys and different likelihoods of ripping successfully the first week or two).

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  18. Re:Is it just me or by Zak3056 · · Score: 2

    I Think it is time for an armed revolution

    No you don't. You just want strangers on the Internet to think you do.

    I agree with your assessment. I'm a firm believer in the 2nd amendment, but I'm pretty horrified when someone suggests we need it due to something as trivial as copyright law. Anybody advocating for an armed revolution should think long and hard about the last time we did that, and at modern examples. The outcome would be catastrophic (even if (or maybe especially if) "the people" "won"), and one need look no further than somewhere like Syria to see the template for their new life.

    That's not to say I advocate the relative comfort of slavery over a just war of independence, but there is a reason "the cartridge box" is listed last of the four boxes of liberty. All other options MUST be exhausted first.

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  19. Stupid question by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    If an overseas company sells DVD decryption software downloaded from an overseas server, how can the AACS force them to comply with a court order issued in the US? Or is that one of the provisions of the Trans-Pacific Trade Partnership?

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    1. Re:Stupid question by HiThere · · Score: 2

      IIUC, China is not a party to the TPP.

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  20. The US has no juristiction. by sg_oneill · · Score: 3, Informative

    Looking at DVDFabs about pages, it leads to a chinese company called Fengtao Software Inc from the Haidian district in Beijing.

    They have no obligation at all to comply with this, because they are not an american company at all.

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  21. Test-case by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Why do they get to ban one DVD backup tool and leave the rest alone?

    My opinion (note that I'm NOT a lawyer) is that they are testing the water.
    See if they can manage this case and set a precedent.
    And then use this case as reference form future lawsuits with other DVD backup software developers.
    (A little like back then with Napster)

    Though, in practice, I think this is going to fail completely. There are way too many DVD backup tools out-there, some developed outside of the jurisdiction of the AACS.

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